Time Nick Message 00:15 jcamins_away I need a report that will give me a list of all records that *don't* have anything in the 751$a? 00:16 jcamins_away Whoops. Missed the rest of that sentence. 00:16 jcamins_away s/\?/ does anyone happen to know how to do that off the top of their head? 00:17 nengard jcamins_away this might be a help: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Bibs_without_subjects 00:17 eythian you could use the extractxml thing, and check to see if it IS NULL (or maybe empty string) 00:17 eythian or use a reference :) 00:17 nengard it's not what you want, but it's a report looking for empty subjects 00:18 jcamins_away nengard: thanks. 00:18 jcamins_away I knew someone had done it. 00:18 nengard no prob 00:18 nengard :) 01:50 abdullatef Hi everybody! 02:03 jcamins_away Hi, abdullatef. 02:04 jcamins_away And libsysguy. 02:04 jcamins_away And NateC. 02:04 libsysguy hey jcamins_away 02:04 wahanui1 jcamins_away are you actually away? 02:04 libsysguy ^^ 02:04 jcamins wahanui1: what's with the attitude? 02:04 wahanui1 jcamins: i haven't a clue 02:05 libsysguy wahanui1 wahanui1 on the irc...who's the fairest of them all 02:05 wahanui1 libsysguy: huh? 02:05 libsysguy heh 02:06 libsysguy hey jcamins can you give me a hand with something 02:06 jcamins libsysguy: I can try. 02:06 libsysguy bug 5079 that i wrote a patch for 02:06 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs 02:06 libsysguy i deleted on accident 02:06 libsysguy and when i try and apply my submitted patch 02:06 libsysguy i get a conflict and it fails 02:07 jcamins Create a new branch, and apply the patch from scratch? 02:07 libsysguy i can attempt that...one sec 02:09 libsysguy i still get a conflict 02:10 libsysguy it happens with the updatedatabase.pl script 02:10 jcamins And you can't resolve it? 02:10 jcamins Oh, of course. 02:10 libsysguy is there something im missing? 02:10 jcamins Yes. You will *always* have a conflict in the updatedatabase.pl script. 02:10 libsysguy *smh* 02:11 jcamins You have to resolve it every time you rebase. 02:11 libsysguy aww man 02:11 libsysguy ok so...to resolve it...i don't see a .mine or HEAD 02:11 libsysguy so its not a content conflict 02:11 rangi git status 02:11 rangi check that it has conflict 02:11 rangi then edit the fille 02:12 rangi look for a line with 02:12 rangi <<<<<<< 02:12 libsysguy it doesn't look like its in conflict...i've got several untracked files 02:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in AuthoritiesMarc.pm so it won't destroy... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94700d65c09fc920f30d2bd9763737065635e68a> 02:14 libsysguy and there is no <<<<<< section in the update file 02:14 rangi oh, so its not a conflict then, just hte patch is not applying? 02:14 rangi whats the exact message you get when you apply it? 02:14 libsysguy error: patch failed: installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl:4354 02:14 libsysguy error: installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl: patch does not apply 02:15 libsysguy and some trailing whitespace warnings 02:15 rangi yeah, thats not a conflict, the patch is busted 02:15 libsysguy :'( 02:15 libsysguy my patch is busted 02:15 libsysguy so...is there anything i can do or am i totally done for? 02:15 rangi usually that happens when you formatted it against a commit that doesnt exist in the branch you are trying to apply it to 02:15 rangi is it attached to the bug? 02:15 libsysguy yes 02:16 rangi 2 secs ill look 02:16 libsysguy thanks rangi 02:16 rangi first one, or second patch on that bug? 02:16 libsysguy both actaully 02:17 libsysguy first then second...sekjal told me the wrong way to do it instead of just amending it 02:17 libsysguy :'( 02:17 rangi will give it a try 02:17 libsysguy ok thanks 02:19 rangi first patch applies, gives me a conflict 02:19 rangi CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl 02:19 rangi how were you trying to apply it? 02:19 rangi git am -iu3 patchname 02:19 rangi ? 02:19 libsysguy git bz apply 5079 02:20 rangi yeah ok 02:20 libsysguy ok 02:20 rangi if htat fails 02:20 rangi you will notice it says something like 02:20 rangi Patch left in /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-location-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch 02:20 jenkins_koha Starting build 353 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #351 1 j 1 h ago) 02:20 libsysguy yes i see that 02:20 rangi do a git am --abort 02:20 rangi the git am -iu3 /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-location-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch 02:20 libsysguy ok 02:20 rangi whatever the filename actually is 02:20 rangi -3 says try a 3 way merge 02:22 libsysguy ohh i see the content conflict now 02:22 rangi cool 02:22 rangi then you fix that, and try the next patch ;) 02:22 libsysguy sweet 02:22 libsysguy thanks rangi 02:22 libsysguy rangi++ 02:22 rangi np 02:24 libsysguy sweet it works...rangi...you the man 02:47 jcamins Argh! "Lugduni" is both Leiden and Lyons. 03:03 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 03:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #353: FIXED in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/353/ 03:03 jenkins_koha frederick.capovilla: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in AuthoritiesMarc.pm so it won't destroy the connection to the biblioserver. 03:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5737 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , ZOOM connection problem in merge_authority.pl when trying to do a batch merge. 03:25 kmkale Namaskar #koha 03:31 mtj heya kmkale 03:49 new hello all 03:49 new i wouldlike to ask regarding koha 3.02.00 03:50 new i've completed the installation 03:50 new and it all went well 03:50 new i import data using Z39.50 and the data inputted into reservoir 03:51 new but i canno search the record inputted 03:51 rangi 3.2.0 ? why did you choose that? its quite old 03:51 rangi 3.4.3 is the latest release .. 3.2.10 was the last release of the 3.2.x line 03:51 new my library just migrated the old v2 koha into 3.2 03:52 new is 3.2.10 does no have this problem anymore? 03:52 rangi well there has been 10 bug fix releases since 3.2.0 .. and then 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.6 3.4.3 so its a about 9 months and lots of bug fixes behind current 03:53 rangi but what you are describing is not a bug 03:53 rangi the reserviour is not the catalogue 03:53 rangi you have to add the record into the catalogue, you did that? 03:53 new i do not know how 03:53 rangi and you have zebra running? and your cron job set up to build the indexes? 03:53 new would you help me? 03:53 rangi have you read the manual? 03:53 new yup 03:54 rangi it tells you how to add a record 03:54 rangi thats all i can tell you to do, the same as the manual says 03:55 new i did read the manual but it tells about importing records in bulk 03:55 new but i did not found any if i want to input one record at a time 03:57 rangi it does 03:57 rangi ill find the page 03:57 rangi http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c8245#addbibrec 03:59 libsysguy I have a question about notices 03:59 new yes i did read that page 03:59 libsysguy is it true that you can only send 3 notices per overdue? 04:00 new but when i finished inputting it, when i search using opac it appears not results found 04:00 libsysguy new 04:00 libsysguy its probably not rebuilding zebra 04:00 libsysguy did you set up your cron to do that? 04:00 new yeah 04:00 libsysguy what is your rebuild rate set at? 04:01 libsysguy default is 10 mins i thing 04:01 libsysguy think* 04:01 new hold on i check 04:01 libsysguy so it would take 10 minutes for your item to show up 04:01 new lest than 3 seconds 04:01 new in fact i just want to try to add in only one new records 04:02 libsysguy well until that record is indexed it won't show up in the opac 04:02 new but the there were few fatal process, warn and etc 04:02 new would you show me how plz? 04:02 libsysguy try this: perl /path/to/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -reset 04:03 libsysguy this will reset and rebuild your entire zebra index 04:03 new ok i'll try 04:03 libsysguy ok 04:04 libsysguy btw rangi is right you should probably try using 3.4 04:05 new it appears error "Could not select database biblios errCode=109" 04:06 new i really want to try 3.4 but my bos already ask the vendor to have 3.2 04:06 libsysguy ok well that is probably the root of your issue 04:06 libsysguy did you say you upgraded? 04:06 new yeah from 2.2.9 to 3.2.0 04:07 libsysguy did you dump your database then drop it before you upgraded? 04:07 new fyi i'm not using the older database 04:07 libsysguy ok that is what i was getting at 04:07 libsysguy lol 04:07 new the reason is i want to relearn about koha 3.2 04:08 new it seems like i want to start from scratch 04:08 libsysguy i am curious why it is looking for the biblios table 04:08 libsysguy the table name is biblio 04:08 new is it in the mysql 04:08 new ? 04:08 libsysguy yes 04:09 new i really not good at it 04:09 libsysguy if you log into mysql and do: show tables; 04:09 libsysguy you should see a table called biblio 04:09 libsysguy before you upgraded you dumped your database right? 04:09 new yeah 04:10 rangi thats a zebra error 04:10 rangi libsysguy 04:10 wahanui1 libsysguy is probably curious why it is looking for the biblios table 04:10 rangi not mysql 04:10 new oo i c 04:10 libsysguy yes i was rangi 04:10 new then what should i do to fix it? 04:10 libsysguy how did wahanui1 read my mind 04:10 rangi so the biblio/biblios thing is a red herring 04:11 rangi "Could not select database biblios errCode=109" is a zebra error 04:11 libsysguy ahh 04:11 libsysguy silly zebra 04:11 rangi well its not zebra 04:11 rangi ppl blame it, but its always actually us 04:11 libsysguy i think i'd like to continue blaming it...it seems to be easier that way lol 04:11 rangi id, talk to your vendor new, and say, is zebra indexing working 04:12 libsysguy ^^ 04:12 rangi because from that error, it certainly doesnt look like it is 04:12 rangi and without that, search will never work right 04:13 new ok 04:13 new is there any way that i could learn this zebra ? 04:13 rangi yes, by lots of reading 04:13 libsysguy and magic 04:13 * rangi has to get back to work 04:13 libsysguy jk new 04:13 new lol :D 04:13 * libsysguy has to go to sleep 04:13 libsysguy its late here 04:14 new ok tq guys 04:14 new tq so much 04:14 libsysguy I'll talk to you guys later...good luck new 04:14 new tq libsysguy 04:34 cait morning #koha 04:45 kmkale hi cait 04:45 cait hi kmkale 04:49 cait eythian++ 04:50 eythian what'd I do? 04:50 cait comment again :) 04:50 eythian ah right :) 06:24 alex_away hello ! 06:24 cait hi alex_a 06:25 alex_a hi cait 06:36 cait bye 06:42 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:46 magnuse namaste kmkale 06:50 alex_a kia ora magnuse 06:50 magnuse bonjour alex_a 07:02 kmkale hi magnus 07:25 abdullatef Hi there 07:27 abdullatef can you help me? 07:27 abdullatef I have install the koha 3.4 on ubuntu 07:27 abdullatef ubuntu 11 07:28 abdullatef previously I have problem with the zebra 07:28 abdullatef now I believed it is solve 07:30 magnuse so what's your problem, abdullatef? 07:37 abdullatef i want to confirm about the zebra 07:37 abdullatef is it really running or not 07:38 abdullatef when i run #ps ax|grep zebra 07:38 abdullatef i got this 1120 ? S 0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha.koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 1121 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv - 07:39 abdullatef is my zebra running? 07:40 magnuse yeah, that looks promising 07:41 magnuse the best thing is probably to check that it actually works, though ;-) 07:41 magnuse add a record and search for it 07:42 abdullatef ok let see 07:52 abdullatef i have imported a record and try to search 07:52 abdullatef no result 07:52 rangi you have the cron job set up 07:53 rangi because without that, zebra wont update its indexes 07:53 abdullatef how to check that? 07:54 mtj abdullatef: look in yr 'zebraqueue' table 07:54 rangi have you set up the cron job? 07:54 rangi if you havent, it wont be set up :) 07:54 mtj $ select * from zebraqueue where done = 0; 07:55 abdullatef i'll try that 07:56 abdullatef the cron job first 07:56 rangi look in misc/cronjobs/ 07:56 rangi for a file crontab.example 07:56 mtj abdullatef: yes, rangi is right :) 07:56 rangi that will give you a hint how to do it 07:57 rangi make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra 07:57 rangi which is koha (according to your paste above) :) 07:58 abdullatef i see 07:58 abdullatef i just run # sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha 07:59 abdullatef and i got a file with : 07:59 abdullatef # Environment variables used by Koha scripts KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml KOHAPATH=/usr/share/koha PERL5LIB=$KOHAPATH/lib # The cronjobs 1 * * * * koha $KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null 07:59 rangi but formatted properly? 08:00 abdullatef not sure, i'll check the crontab.example 08:00 rangi that paste was all one line 08:00 rangi it should be multiple lines 08:00 rangi try pasting it into paste.koha-community.org 08:00 rangi and should end with one blank line 08:01 pastebot "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "# sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1746 08:04 rangi right try adding a newline at the end 08:04 rangi and then it should be all good 08:04 rangi and if you still cant find anything, then do like mtj suggested 08:04 rangi and look in hte db 08:04 rangi oh 08:05 rangi i see whats wrong 08:06 rangi 1 * * * * 08:06 rangi thats only gonna run once an hour 08:06 rangi at 1 minute past the hour 08:07 rangi i would make that */5 * * * * 08:07 rangi so it runs every 5 minutes 08:08 abdullatef meaning that, the search can be run after 1 hour? 08:08 rangi try a search now actually 08:08 rangi the way you have it set up, yes, it will only reindex once an hour, at 1 min past the hour 08:09 rangi its now 20:08 nztime .. so in theory it should have run 7 mins ago 08:10 rangi so maybe your search is now working 08:12 abdullatef still no results found 08:13 abdullatef i'll change the 1**** 08:13 abdullatef to */5 * * * * 08:13 rangi and make sure the file contains a new line at the end, hit return a few times, it cant hurt :) 08:15 abdullatef :) 08:15 abdullatef hit return means? 08:17 rangi put some newlines at the end of the file 08:17 abdullatef oh, i'm sorry :) 08:18 rangi (at least one) 08:18 abdullatef return = enter :) 08:20 abdullatef rangi: make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra 08:20 wahanui1 i already had it that way, abdullatef. 08:21 abdullatef i have open the crontab.example 08:33 abdullatef In the file a found: 08:33 rangi i dont think you need to look at the crontab.example your file in cron.d looked fine except for the 1 and no newline at the end 08:34 pastebot "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "crontab.example" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1747 08:34 rangi yep, you would have to put that in the koha users crontab 08:35 rangi your one you pasted before is fine, except for the 1, and no newline at the end of the file 08:36 abdullatef is it same $KOHAPATH with $KOHA_CRON_PATH ? 08:36 rangi assuming /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl exists 08:36 rangi do a ls on that 08:36 abdullatef ok 08:38 abdullatef where is this usr located? 08:39 abdullatef i'll paste the ls 08:40 pastebot "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "ls" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1748 08:41 rangi type 08:42 rangi ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl 08:44 pastebot "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1749 08:44 mtj hey... rangi is just being helpful for the ChoreWorz XP ! :/ 08:44 rangi heh 08:44 rangi abdullatef: ok then, so thats fine 08:44 rangi did you change to */5 08:45 rangi and put a newline at the end 08:46 * mtj looks for some gold to mine.... 08:46 pastebot "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "*/5 * * * *" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1750 08:47 abdullatef yes 08:47 rangi right, try looking in the db now, in the zebraqueue table 08:47 rangi and then ill have to go 08:48 abdullatef ok thanks 08:48 abdullatef me too, i need to go 08:49 abdullatef are the chat being saved anywhere? 08:49 rangi yes 08:49 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/ 08:49 abdullatef thanks 08:49 mtj right, go get that xp, rangi 08:49 abdullatef i really appreciate your help 08:50 magnuse rangi++ 08:51 abdullatef Bye for now 08:52 kf have to go to - to the train station and we have rain, thunder and lightning outside :( 08:52 kf @karma kf 08:52 huginn` kf: Karma for "kf" has been increased 67 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 67. 08:52 kf hm, no bad karma 08:53 mtj kf: wear 2 hoods for heavy rain :) 08:53 kf 2 hoods? 08:54 mtj 1 jumper with hood + 1 jacket with hood 08:54 kf ah 08:55 mtj hood = Haube? 08:56 kf Kapuze :) 08:56 kf but haube is not wrong, only not quite right for a jumper 08:56 kf or a jacket 08:58 mtj ahh, haube is like a bonnet 08:59 kf haube makes me think of something a woman in medievil times would wear 09:02 magnuse have a safe journey, kf! 09:03 kf thx magnuse 09:03 kf I have an hour before I have to leave 09:04 kf playing with the test installation now, making sure all examples work :) 09:04 magnuse good idea! ;-) 09:10 kf hm 09:11 kf the zebra striping in a lot of tables seems to be broken in 3.4.3 09:11 magnuse kf: do you have an uptodate version of TT? 09:11 kf not sure 09:11 kf butI would think so 09:11 kf hm 09:12 magnuse are you missing the striping on search results? 09:12 kf yes 09:12 kf Template is 2.20 09:12 magnuse on ubuntu or debian? 09:13 kf ubuntu 09:13 kf lts version 09:14 magnuse i think i had a situation where the stripes were missing when i had the apt-get-able version of TT, and then i cpan'ed it and got the stripes back 09:14 kf ok 09:14 magnuse my production server has tt 2.22 09:14 kf I think for the presentation it will be ok 09:42 kf weather-- 09:53 magnuse \o 09:56 druthb Hi magnuse! 09:56 kf hi druthb 09:56 kf and bye #koha 10:18 rangi paul_p: you have changed the author on 4415 10:18 rangi im going to change it back to srdjan if you have no objections 10:19 paul_p yikes ! I made that probably when/by adding "Nicole signed off" manually... 10:19 paul_p no objection, of course ! 10:21 * druthb waves to rangi and paul_p 10:23 rangi cool, fixed and pushed 10:23 rangi hi druthb 10:23 paul_p hi druthb 10:25 rangi there are hundred of libraries on 2.2 still paul 10:25 rangi all around the world 10:25 rangi i know of a lot in pakistan and the philipines 10:27 rangi plus there are all the windows users 10:28 * druthb shudders 10:28 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be manag... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33a9aec802f6833bc7d3b6eb1eeb8e6dce2742f8> 10:28 * magnuse too 10:28 magnuse let's hope strawberry perl can help them move to 3.x 10:29 rangi id rather they move to linux, but either way, they will need to migrate 10:30 magnuse ah yes, of course 10:30 magnuse linux ftw! but it sounded like that might not be too much of an option in e.g. pakistan, strange as that might seem 10:30 rangi oh nope we are getting there 10:31 rangi i got an email from farasat 10:31 rangi he has koha running under linux now 10:31 magnuse yay! 10:31 magnuse that's excellent news! 10:31 rangi yup, i have to reply and help him with one issue he has 10:31 rangi but it is good news 10:31 magnuse woohoo 10:34 sekjal_mobile haha! victory! 10:35 jenkins_koha Starting build 354 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 10:36 * magnuse looks quizzically at sekjal_mobile 10:40 rangi connected via tor 10:50 magnuse ah 11:16 druthb o/ 11:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #354: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/354/ 11:19 jenkins_koha srdjan: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be managed separately 11:27 Agent_Dani Heya druthb! 11:32 druthb hi, Agent_Dani! :) 11:37 jwagner paul_p, online? 11:38 paul_p yep (back from lunch just a few minuts ago) 11:38 jwagner Couple of questions for you or anyone else (thought you might know the answers, though). First, is there a conversion tool to go from UNIMARC to MARC21 records? I seem to remember there is. 11:40 paul_p jwagner, there is a XSLT at loc.gov iirc 11:40 jwagner for display? Or actual conversion? 11:40 paul_p I think for actual conversion 11:40 paul_p (but i haven't tested it, so I don't guarantee !) 11:41 jwagner OK, I'll take a look there. Second is from one of my French Canadian sites -- is there a MS Windows plugin or popup for Windows XP to let you type diacritics? They're having problems with original cataloging 11:41 jwagner I'm told in Windows 7 there is a popup alternative keyboard for languages, but I don't know about XP 11:42 paul_p well, jwagner = french keyboards already have diacritict, plus remember, i'm an OpenSource man, so no windows here ;-) 11:43 jwagner Oh well. Anyone else? 11:43 paul_p (my last MS-windows was windows 98. Really) 11:43 paul_p not that I know (and french keyboards have diacritics, so I don't know anyone using a tool for that) 11:44 jwagner OK, will keep looking. Thanks. 11:56 Oak hello #koha 11:57 druthb hi Oak. 11:57 Oak hello druthb :) 11:57 magnus_lunch jwagner: seen bug 6536? "The conversion from UNIMARC to MARC21 currently only supports the most important MARC fields and should gradually be extended to cover remaining fields" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Z3950_RFC 11:57 wahanui1 I haven't seen 'bug', magnus_lunch 11:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing 11:58 * magnus_lunch wanders off again 11:58 jwagner no, hadn't gotten there yet -- thanks magnus. Thought I remembered something somewhere.... 12:07 jwagner brb 12:26 jwagner !auit 12:39 tcohen hi #koha 12:44 jwagner paul_p, re my earlier question about alternative keyboards, this link got something working in Win XP -- FYI. http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/using/catalog/inputoptions.html 12:48 magnuse jwagner: this is perhaps not what you are thinking about? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_an_OPAC_screen_keyboard 12:49 jwagner no, but it's interesting. Thanks! 12:49 magnuse np 13:27 libsysguy morning #Koha 13:30 druthb hi, libsysguy! 13:30 libsysguy druthb i saw where you were concerned about my poor data yesterday 13:31 druthb your poor abused data... 13:31 libsysguy i did abuse my data yesterday 13:31 libsysguy i had to delete my master branch and move it to a new one 13:32 druthb ugh 13:32 libsysguy i know...sirsi wouldn't let me just change the branch in there 13:32 libsysguy :-\ 13:33 libsysguy i guess i should rephrase that...i didn't know how and neither did margo 13:33 libsysguy so i just changed in in koha 13:34 druthb yup..i frequently tell libraries *don't* do a bunch of cleanup and this and that in your current system--let me do it with mappings. 13:34 libsysguy there was some problem we were having with using a map 13:34 libsysguy but i forgot what it was 13:35 libsysguy i think it was patrons and bills 13:35 libsysguy maybe 13:48 tcohen importing holdings is the same as of 3.0.x ? The wiki seems incomplete on that (even 3.2 section is to be completed) 13:57 magnuse tcohen: what wiki page are you looking at? 13:57 tcohen magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 13:58 magnuse guten tag cait 13:58 cait hi magnuse 13:58 magnuse tcohen: i don't think there were any changes from 3.0 to 3.2 13:59 tcohen and from 3.2 to 3.4 ? 13:59 magnuse not any big changes there either 14:00 magnuse i use the table for 3.0 as my reference 14:00 tcohen as items where removed from marcxml/marc we should perhaps make explicit 14:00 tcohen that as of bulkmarcimport everything is as it used to 14:00 tcohen t oavoid confusion 14:01 magnuse yeah, that would be a good idea 14:03 Oak cait 14:04 cait Oak 14:21 tcohen paul_p: ufff 14:21 paul_p tcohen, ? 14:21 tcohen paul_p: i'll try to steal some time from my bosses to rebase that code 14:22 paul_p tcohen, if you prefer, I suggest you wait a little bit to rebase = there are many patches waiting QA that will have an updatedatabase. So you may have to do it more than once ! 14:22 * cait waves 14:22 paul_p hi cait 14:22 cait internet_connection_on_trains-- 14:23 cait hi paul_p 14:23 cait :) 14:23 paul_p cait = do you remember that less than 10 years ago having internet "everywhere" was even not a dream ! 14:23 cait I know 14:23 cait I should be happy that I have a connection 14:23 tcohen paul_p: ok, remember that latest patches apply to new/enh/bug_5166 14:23 cait ... 14:24 tcohen and that branch should be rebased to master 14:24 paul_p mmm... tcohen maybe it's worth a comment on the patch, I missed that ! 14:24 paul_p s/comment on the patch/comment on the bug/ 14:24 tcohen but as this patches need to be rebased for sure, and thus need to be signedoff again maybe i'll rebase against master... 14:37 oleonard http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-08-02 14:39 magnuse oleonard: rda springs to mind... ;-) 14:52 oleonard paul_p: Thanks for the kohastructure.sql correction 14:53 paul_p your welcome 15:01 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6640] Template errors in defining default variable values causes information not to be displayed <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6640> 15:09 miguel Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode - España 15:10 slef miguel: No-uno es aquà 15:10 slef that's wrong translation of no-one :-/ 15:11 slef too literal 15:12 miguel no hay nadie 15:12 tcohen #startmeeting Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting 15:12 huginn` Meeting started Wed Aug 3 15:12:20 2011 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:12 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:13 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, UNC, Cordoba, Argentina 15:13 miguel #info Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode, España 15:14 tcohen alguien mas por ahi? hilongo? 15:14 slef #info MJ Ray, software.coop, Somerset, England 15:15 tcohen bueno, me parece que somos pocos, no se que conviene que hagamos 15:15 jati #info Juan Romay (Xercode) 15:15 tcohen #topic Spanish speaking community mail list administration / move to official FQDN 15:16 slef te hiero con malespañol 15:16 tcohen No tenemos quorum me parece 15:17 slef quorum = ? 15:17 paul_p oleonard, if you have a few minuts, pls look at 5436, there's a comment/checking I'd like you to do. Thanks 15:18 tcohen slef: it's latin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorum 15:18 tcohen I think we don't hace enough attendees 15:19 tcohen to make a desition 15:19 tcohen on moving the koha-es list to the koha-community.org domain and maintenance 15:19 slef tcohen: si, quanto? 15:20 tcohen 3 es poco me parece 15:21 tcohen is there a hastag for abort meeting? 15:21 slef try #info ABORTED then #endmeeting 15:22 slef or #info followed by your reason, then endmeeting 15:22 slef http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Semi-automatic-minutes-for-IRC-meetings-on-koha-td3264811.html 15:23 tcohen #info interested parties could not attend 15:23 tcohen #info meeting postponed 15:24 tcohen #endmeeting 15:24 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 15:23:36 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:24 huginn` Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-08-03-15.12.html 15:24 huginn` Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-08-03-15.12.txt 15:24 huginn` Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-08-03-15.12.log.html 15:26 pabloab :/ late, but I was present.. 15:28 slef pabloab: better luck next time 15:29 cait ks 15:30 cait what I really wanted to type was: Is the meeting over? 15:31 tcohen cait: yes 15:32 cait ok 15:35 oleonard paul_p: Shouldn't Bug 5436 not pass QA until the updatedatabase change is made? 15:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements 15:36 paul_p oleonard, usually, chris take care of this when applying the patch to master, because the final number depends on the order of applying patches. 15:36 paul_p For some other patches, i've added a small commit to propose a version number, but it will be chris that decide/pick the right number 15:37 paul_p this is a limit of the version numbering we have (and it's a pain, definetly, but I don't have another proposition at hand... probably something to investigate for 4.0...) 15:37 oleonard Maybe I just don't understand how atomicupdate is used? I thought one must change updatedatabase.pl but put in XX for the version number. 15:38 paul_p atomicupdate is anotherway to update the database, you just link the atomic update to the updatedatabase.pl at final merge. 15:39 paul_p it's handy to avoid git am conflicts because your updatedatabase was done after 017 and when it's tested, we are already at 024. In this case, even a XXX will result in a conflict 15:39 paul_p (as it detects it should be after 017, and see something's wrong) 15:40 paul_p I agree we should have a more formal/documented/unique way to submit DB update though ! 15:41 libsysguy ^^ 15:42 oleonard paul_p: I'm not complaining about the process, I just wasn't aware of this option. We need better documentation of our process, but no one has offered a better suggestion for changing the procedure. 15:42 tcohen oleonard++ 15:43 paul_p (this option is rarely used, that's why I specify it for chris/ian, to avoid a mistake) 15:44 paul_p tcohen, you can use this atomicupdate for your patch if you want too ! could avoid having conflicts later. 15:45 tcohen paul_p: exactly! 15:45 paul_p (but pls: also explain on the bug how to apply all patches, or squash them (git rebase -i if you don't know how to squash) 15:45 oleonard squashing++ 15:45 tcohen i'll squash them 15:46 paul_p sometimes a follow-up is better, sometimes, it becomes a nightmare to check and squashing is better 15:46 tcohen the problem with that bug is that there are patches against master 15:46 tcohen and against the topic branch 15:46 tcohen i don't know how is that handled 16:16 gmcharlt paul_p: out of curiosity, is the type of evaluation that qsos.org of any relevance in France (asking because they see to be primarily a French site, albeit with lots of English translations) 16:16 oleonard An elusive gmcharlt appears. 16:17 * jwagner gets out the butterfly net 16:18 paul_p gmcharlt, I never heard of qsos before now. Although, i've heard rumors of websites like this one (maybe this one) at a conference last year. So it've in the radar of some ppl, but not widely spread yet afaik 16:19 gmcharlt http://www.qsos.org/?p=137 is why I'm asking, although obviously that particularly evaluation is a bit ... old 16:19 paul_p http://www.qsos.org/?page_id=4 => 23 October 2006 16:19 paul_p Listes de évaluations disponibles 16:19 paul_p Liste des templates d’évaluations disponibles 16:19 paul_p quite old too... 16:21 paul_p I may have seen this sheet already. Something in my brain says that. But it was a long time ago... 16:23 paul_p OK, it's time to leave for me ! busy but useful day. Now ... going to the beach (lucky man I am, I know ;-) ) 16:30 piware Goodbye 17:19 tcohen paul_p 17:20 tcohen r u away already? 17:43 cait hi #koha 17:55 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5166] Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166> 18:08 oleonard I wonder if we need another patch status for "seeking information." 18:08 oleonard For instance, Bug 6124 has a good question in the comments, but no response. 18:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6124 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , In transferstoreceive.pl some biblios are empty. 18:10 cait hm 18:11 cait would not be as hard as failed qa 18:12 cait needs feedback perhaps? 18:13 oleonard That's nicely concise 18:14 cait and a bit shorter in the pull down 18:19 bg hey cait - Quick question - were librarians able to search for patrons via email address before? 18:23 bg never mind got the answer - I think it was stripped 18:23 oleonard bg: Before what? 18:23 bg 3.4 I guess 18:23 bg I can't search via email right now - and I only tried on a 3.4 box 18:24 cait bg - i don't know it 18:24 oleonard We wrote a custom PHP script for that because we wished we had it 18:24 bg it's all good 18:24 cait what I miss is sending an empty search to get all borrowers 18:25 cait oleonard: I think you could do it nicely with a custom report and runtime parameter now 18:25 oleonard Not ideal. 18:27 cait not sure what you want it to do exactly - ideal would be a possibility to filter/search an all fields :) 18:27 oleonard Yeah, that's what I want. A patron advanced search interface. 18:27 * cait nods 18:28 * oleonard has found wishing for it to be ineffective for several years now 18:29 cait hm 18:29 cait programmig it would be an alternatie 18:30 cait but lots of things to think about 19:16 rhcl_away @seen snowman 19:16 huginn` rhcl_away: I have not seen snowman. 19:17 rhcl_away OK, well, if you do, give me a heads up. 19:30 libsysguy so I deleted a branch that had all my bibs/patrons attached to it after i moved them to a new branch and now when i do a search i just get a * fror libraries that links to the deleted branch 19:31 libsysguy did i mess something up 19:34 jcamins_away cait1: around? 19:34 cait1 I hope 19:34 jcamins :) 19:34 cait1 but I don't trust the internet connection 19:34 jcamins Ah. 19:42 druthb hi, jcamins! 19:42 jcamins Hi, druthb! 19:42 jcamins Still enjoying Bird-in-Hand? 19:43 druthb love it. 19:43 libsysguy bird in hand? 19:43 cait1 was going to ask that too 19:43 libsysguy cait1 and I are curious campers lol 19:44 druthb adjacent to the campground is a farm...all day yesterday, we watched a very serious-looking bearded man working--he had some ancient gasoline-powered implement on a wagon-like contraption, being pulled by two horses. 19:46 druthb libsysguy: my daughter and I are camping near Bird-In-Hand, PA. 19:46 druthb In the Amish country 19:46 libsysguy OHHHH!!! 19:46 libsysguy well that makes more sense than a bearded man 19:47 jcamins It's an absolutely beautiful area. 19:48 libsysguy does anybody know how to import authorities 19:48 libsysguy or is there a wiki on it 19:48 libsysguy i didn't even look 19:48 druthb it is. When the Amish and Mennonite people settled here, they felt that God had given them the Perfect Place for their work and lifestyle--and I'm inclined to agree with them on that. It's great land here. 19:48 cait1 libsysguy: same way you import biblios (from commandline) using -a 19:49 libsysguy ohh 19:49 * libsysguy is retarded 19:49 cait1 check the ---h for bulkmarcimport :) 19:49 druthb cait++ 19:49 libsysguy cait1++ 19:49 druthb libsysguy++ #smart enough to ask questions! 19:49 cait1 xp! 19:50 * jcamins thinks about warning libsysguy about the fact that the authorities may not do what he's expecting, and then stops before he disheartens the poor fellow. 19:50 jcamins Do you want Jared's Standard Disclaimer Regarding LCSH-style Authorities in Koha (TM)? 19:50 * libsysguy wonders why jcamins is always bringing him down 19:50 libsysguy just like the man lol 19:51 libsysguy umm sure 19:51 rangi morning 19:51 jcamins libsysguy: I do it for everyone, not just you. 19:51 jcamins ;) 19:51 druthb hi rangi 19:51 libsysguy haha jcamins hi rangi 19:52 cait1 You level up! You are now a Level 3 Enchanter! 19:52 cait1 haha 19:52 jcamins libsysguy: basically, the point where you're going to run into problems is that your authorities are not going to be linked in any way to your bib records, and the link_authorities_to_biblios script doesn't work. 19:52 libsysguy how ironic 19:52 cait1 hi rangi 19:52 libsysguy well...i think our authorities are all out of date anyway 19:52 libsysguy from what i understand 19:53 libsysguy (and i have no idea what authorities are...i just know it costs a lot of money to get them done) 19:53 jcamins So the authorities can be used to ensure that a heading has already been authorized when cataloging, but they will not really provide a usable access point into the catalog. 19:53 libsysguy gotcha 19:53 cait1 hm 19:53 libsysguy ill pass that along 19:53 cait1 you could migrate an old authorities number from your current system 19:53 jcamins At least for right now. 19:53 jcamins cait1: but that only helps if the authority numbers are embedded in the bib records. 19:54 cait1 right 19:54 * libsysguy feels like there is about to be librarian talk about to happen 19:54 cait1 and you are right about the access point 19:54 cait1 would be great if we could get that working 19:54 jcamins cait1: I agree. 19:55 cait1 would dom help that problem? 19:55 jcamins Yes. 19:55 jcamins There would also need to be a display customization, but indexing that doesn't make one weep is a good first step. 19:56 jcamins I think ByWater is working on adding authority searching in the OPAC. "Did you mean 'Smith, John, 1900-1981'?" 19:57 cait1 hm yes 19:57 * libsysguy has to run 19:58 cait1 what I would like to see is aphabetic registers and a way to find a title searching for one form of the name that was written under a pseudonym/other name form 19:58 jcamins Can I get xp for scaring someone off of IRC? :\ 19:58 cait1 I fear not 19:58 cait1 but you helped me 19:58 jcamins Aww. Darn. 19:58 jcamins Yay! 19:58 jcamins Wait, I did? 19:59 cait1 sure 20:00 cait1 I have t send more patches, I want a chocolate fish 20:00 rangi how did the presentation go? 20:02 cait1 it's tomorro 20:02 cait1 w 20:02 cait1 took half a day to get here - 6hours on train 20:03 rangi ahhh 20:03 * rangi is doing rfp again today :( 20:03 bg NateC? 20:03 wahanui1 I LIKE SPACE! 20:04 * cait1 sends rangi cookies 20:04 druthb talljoy? 20:04 wahanui1 I CRUNCH DATA 20:04 NateC rangi: I feel you pain man 20:04 cait1 druthb? 20:04 druthb muhahaha 20:04 cait1 hm 20:05 cait1 poor wahanui... he got geblitzdingst 20:05 rangi RFP : you're doing it wrong! !!! 20:06 druthb geblitzdingst? 20:06 jcamins jcamins? 20:06 wahanui1 you are supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications 20:07 druthb mercy 20:07 cait1 flashy-thinged 20:07 cait1 (mib) 20:08 rangi bg? 20:08 wahanui1 I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL 20:08 cait1 rangi? 20:08 wahanui1 I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 20:08 druthb lol 20:08 NateC rangi: yep, RFP = Really Fu@%ed Paper 20:08 druthb back in a few.... 20:09 rangi my stop bbiab 20:15 rangi back 20:15 rangi and before i forget 20:16 rangi a plug for one of the projects one of the catalyst staff works on 20:16 rangi http://openra.res0l.net/ 20:17 cait1 a plug? 20:18 jcamins A plug? 20:18 jcamins A plug! 20:18 jcamins A plug! 20:18 rangi http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/plug 20:18 jcamins Everybody ought to have a plug... 20:18 rhcl_away it's a thing to catch fish with 20:18 rhcl_away a fishing lure 20:19 * jcamins gives up. 20:19 rangi hmm that doesnt have the meaning thats used here 20:19 rangi to plug something can be used to mean, to advertise 20:20 rangi n. 20:20 rangi a free advertisement or a commercial boost from someone for a product. (See also plugola.) : I managed to get a plug on the Mike Michael show. 20:20 rangi tv. 20:20 rangi to give an advertisement or commercial boost for something without having to pay for it. : I want to get on that TV program and plug my new book. 20:20 rangi :) 20:30 rhcl_away http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/3527936580_437b19a40f.jpg 20:31 cait1 that thing looks mean 20:32 rhcl_away yea, probably scared the fish away rather than caught them 20:33 rhcl_away we're surrounded by a power outage, although we still have el-. http://www.kcpl.com/kcmaps/frameset_menus.htm Should I close down all the computers, do you think? And go home? 20:36 rangi so 20:36 cait1 so? 20:36 wahanui1 so is, like, there an expirationdate and an expiredate 20:36 rangi i have a bunch of post graduate level students in australia, what things could they help out with in koha 20:37 jcamins What are they studying? 20:37 rhcl_away abstract the db 20:37 rangi lis 20:38 rhcl_away oh, disregard 20:38 cait1 hm 20:38 rangi http://katedavis.info/ <-- her students 20:38 cait1 documentation? 20:38 wahanui1 documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 20:38 cait1 usability testing? 20:38 rangi oh thats a good idea 20:39 cait1 ideas for new innovative features? 20:39 cait1 test plans? 20:41 rangi cool that gives me ideas thanks 20:42 cait1 k 20:42 cait1 can I get xp now? 20:42 * cait1 hides 20:51 rhcl_away We hired a new bookstore manager two days ago, and the Friends bought her a nice new 17" notebook computer w/ Win 7. I worked and worked trying to get the D&# thing connected to the wireless network.... 20:51 rhcl_away finally gave up and installed Linux Mint 11. 20:51 rhcl_away It works. 21:00 cait1 hehe 21:25 libsysguy rangi: what is the link to your blog 21:26 libsysguy I thought i saw something on there the other day about serials in 3.6 21:27 rangi blog.bigballofwax.co.nz 21:27 cait1 serials in 3.6? 21:27 rangi i dont think i wrote anything about that 21:28 jcamins Aww. 21:28 libsysguy so no serials work :'( 21:28 cait1 we already have serials? 21:28 cait1 what are you missing? 21:28 libsysguy holdings? 21:29 cait1 and don't look so sad... 21:29 cait1 holdings? 21:29 libsysguy im just going off an email I got from our acquisitions librarian 21:29 * libsysguy is about to enter a discussion I don't know much about 21:29 jcamins libsysguy: as far as I know, MFHD has not been sponsored by anyone. 21:29 libsysguy MFHD? 21:29 wahanui1 somebody said MFHD was MARC Format for Holdings Data 21:30 libsysguy ohh 21:30 cait1 wahanui1 botsnack cookie 21:30 wahanui1 thanks cait1 :) 21:30 jcamins That's what your acquisitions librarian wants. 21:30 libsysguy gotcha 21:42 libsysguy is anybody using ldap auth on master? 21:46 jcamins libsysguy: a bunch of people are. sekjal would be able to tell you about it. 21:49 libsysguy well i just wanted to see if anybody else was getting an error 21:51 jcamins I don't know anything about it, sorry. 21:51 libsysguy its cool jcamins...ill stalk sekjal 21:53 rhcl_away libsysguy, did you resolve your exproxy questions? 21:53 * libsysguy tries to remember ezproxy questions 21:54 libsysguy was it perhaps getting ezproxy to work with shib 21:54 rhcl_away yea, shibboleth related, late last week 21:54 libsysguy yes i did...kind of...turns out our university doesn't use shib as an SSO...silly i know 21:56 * Agent_Dani fondly remembers ezproxy. 21:57 jcamins "Fondly"? 22:00 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=32b8ff74fdbcec7ae3dcaff852f48ba5b5bc2bb7> / 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b46a30c632893ca0fd1ef75e19905e8f1cf34a5e> / Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing... <http:// 22:03 rangi libsysguy: ive got a new one for ya 22:03 rangi http://soundcloud.com/oopartmusic/chad-vader 22:05 libsysguy rangi you have a true programmers taste in music 22:05 * libsysguy approves 22:05 jenkins_koha Starting build 355 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:05 rangi who cant approve of using darth vaders voice for your incar navigation 22:09 Agent_Dani jcamins: It was fairly trouble-free in my experience, far more so than a lot of other software I was dealing with in that job. 22:09 jcamins Go figure. 22:09 libsysguy well heck...its got ez right in the name 22:13 jcamins libsysguy: so does fez, and have you ever seen anyone pull off one of those with panache? 22:15 libsysguy touche` jcamins 22:16 libsysguy hey jcamins...do you think you could take a peed at this for me http://i.imgur.com/T3uC3.png 22:16 libsysguy this is what the serials librarian sent me 22:17 rangi ah they just want a bunch of display changes 22:17 libsysguy is that it? 22:17 rangi yep 22:17 rangi its all template changes 22:18 libsysguy cool...css and js ftw 22:18 libsysguy i just wanted to verify that is all it was 22:18 rangi well that analytics one, could be that there isnt a link .. but the rest is all display 22:19 jcamins UT Tyler doesn't use analytics, so you can just hide it. 22:19 rangi easy peasy 22:19 libsysguy sweet 22:19 libsysguy nothing new 22:21 Agent_Dani libsysguy: Heh! The "ez" claim worried me at first, but compared to dealing with a lot of the stuff from HP, Oracle, etc... 22:21 libsysguy there is nothing ever eazy from Oracle 22:21 * libsysguy hates Oracle 22:21 libsysguy **for what they did to JAVA 22:22 rangi and solaris 22:22 rangi and mysql 22:22 rangi and openoffice 22:22 Agent_Dani I can't say I'm a fan either. A part of my motivation for leaving that job was that I was basically becoming the dump-on person for Oracle DBA tasks that the DBAs didn't want to do. 22:22 rangi and basic human decency 22:22 chilts hmmm ... and for doing Oracle too! 22:22 rangi oh yeah and oracle 22:22 chilts :) 22:22 rangi what a sack of crap that is 22:22 rangi oh look its crashed again 22:23 chilts indeed, glad I don't touch it these days 22:23 libsysguy ESPECIALLY Oracle 22:23 Agent_Dani I only deal with stuff that connects to Oracle DBs; I don't have to actually deal with the DB anymore. 22:23 mtj i have a good friend working at oracle-nz 22:24 chilts my friend used to work for acompany that got taken over by Oracle ... first thing they did was give them pay rises 22:24 chilts 2nd thing they did was forced them to use their crappy internal tools 22:25 chilts I figure it was a giving with one hand and a taking with the other 22:25 mtj it sounds like epic wtf's on a daily basis there :/ 22:25 Agent_Dani libsysguy: I will admit that after the early work in '99-early 2000, my involvement with ezproxy was systems side. I no longer dealt with configuring databases within it. 22:26 libsysguy ahh...well all i deal with is setting it up on the system 22:27 mtj afaik, all phbs at oracle are either playing golf, or updating their facebook 22:27 libsysguy sounds about right mjt 22:28 Agent_Dani The worst task I had to do with it was setup auth with DRA Web2, which was available in a then-brand-spanking-new beta release of EZP. 22:29 mtj chilts: 3rd thing was force staff to sign 'all-your-work-belong-to-us' NDAs - til the staff complained 22:30 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5602: Changes to account for the version update. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e07fc1099a34215ab8277cc2293b3bf062f4152> / bug 5602: Rewriting the package making script Now it is a perl script. Various pdebui... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc819ec93c9de75a7d8eaa99e3e8c9d7a51835ce> / Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= 22:30 chilts mtj: heh, yeah, that's probably it 22:32 rangi chilts: wheres that place you can get a desk for a day? 22:32 chilts there are two in Welly ... 22:32 * chilts looks 22:33 chilts http://bizdojo.com/ and ... 22:33 * chilts is still looking 22:37 chilts http://www.altspace.co.nz/ 22:37 chilts phew, found it 22:38 chilts I think you can have them for a day but as part of a 4 or 5 days a month contract 22:38 chilts so I don't think you can just turn up - I asked BizDojo about that but they didn't get back to me 22:38 rangi ahh right 22:38 rangi wasnt there somewhere you were going occasionally? 22:38 chilts heh, the library :) 22:39 chilts but no, I was _thinking_ about BozDojo but it's quite expensive I feel 22:39 chilts esp. since I've got mobile broadband 22:39 rangi hmm some company 22:39 rangi i remember you telling me at miyabi 22:39 chilts ah ... you're thinking of Jelly at ... 22:39 chilts erm 22:39 rangi thats it 22:40 chilts Boost 22:40 chilts http://www.boost.co.nz/blog/design/jelly-at-boost-friday-co-working-for-free/ 22:40 rangi ta 22:40 chilts np 22:40 chilts it's not really a desk, more like a couch, coffee and wifi 22:40 chilts though there are a few tables you can sit at 22:44 mtj oooh, boost++ 22:45 chilts mason have you been before? I went a few times but found it didn't have that much atmosphere 22:45 mtj no, me never... 22:45 mtj i aint fussy tho, re: atmosfere 22:46 mtj i often were big headfones so i dont get distracted, so less is often better for me 22:47 chilts I need to bring my headphones in to my current work 22:47 mtj ... listening to soothing whale/dolphin muzak, while i werk 22:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #355: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/355/ 22:48 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket) 22:48 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. 22:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version 22:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4959 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. 22:48 mtj i'm finishing off the lorien barcode thing 22:49 jenkins_koha Starting build 356 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:49 mtj oops, wrong window.. :/ 22:50 jenkins_koha Starting build 26 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:54 bg it feels hot here 22:54 bg @wunder 93109 22:54 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.4�C (3:53 PM PDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady). 22:55 bg yup 72 22:55 bg *sigh* 22:55 rangi heh 22:59 jcamins @wunder 11375 23:00 huginn` jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 22.0�C (6:55 PM EDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady). 23:00 jcamins \o/ 23:00 jcamins It's less hot here, in August, than in Santa Barbara. 23:01 jcamins Unfortunately, it's pouring, and there is heat radiating off the walls. 23:02 jcamins (so I can't really enjoy it)