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library_guy |
seen nengard |
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wahanui |
nengard was last seen on #koha 1 days, 4 hours, 50 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: email if you have further questions [Wed Jun 29 20:46:39 2011] |
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library_guy |
sekjal you around? |
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sekjal |
library_guy: mostly |
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library_guy |
heh |
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library_guy |
so I made a dumb typo in my commit and typed a 2 instead of a 0 |
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library_guy |
so to fix it I don't want to have to submit a separate 3rd patch |
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library_guy |
so how can i merge the second patch into the 3rd one |
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sekjal |
1) make the change |
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sekjal |
2) git add the change file |
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sekjal |
3) git commit --amend |
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sekjal |
4) send patch with a not that this replaces the previous |
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library_guy |
ok |
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sekjal |
5) mark the replaced patch as obsolete in Bugzilla (this is right time to use this, I promise) |
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library_guy |
heh |
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library_guy |
ok thanks sekjal |
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sekjal |
gladly, library_guy |
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wanders in for a moment and looks around |
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mtj |
hiya folks |
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chris_n |
howdy mtj |
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mtj |
and a big "hi" to chris_n :p |
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mtj |
long time, no chat - i think |
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chris_n |
seems like it |
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* chris_n |
has not sat at his desk for two hours in a row for the past month |
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chris_n |
:P |
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mtj |
well done! |
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chris_n |
aamof when I hear the word 'perl' I think of oysters first rather than code |
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mtj |
oooh, are you moonlighting as a food critic now? |
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chris_n |
lol |
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chris_n |
actually, I'm pretending to be a building automation expert |
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* library_guy |
has a conundrum |
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sekjal |
library_guy: ? |
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library_guy |
if an item doesn't have a call number or a location I don't want to print the location line |
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library_guy |
the problem is, to check those things i have to iterate through all those loops |
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library_guy |
err at least that the only way i know |
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library_guy |
http://129.114.128.216/cgi-bin[…]sort_by=relevance |
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mtj |
library_guy: what koha version, 3.2 or 3.4? |
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sekjal |
library_guy: have you looked at XSLT keys? |
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sekjal |
that's the mechanism used for Availability... perhaps it would pay off for the Location(s) line |
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mtj |
library_guy: fyi: your example url has populated location values for all bibs |
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mtj |
ie: its a bad example? |
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mtj |
library_guy: the last-resort fix to your problem is some jscript/jquery to remove those blank location rows |
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mtj |
... but a bug-report+patch would be better |
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mtj |
nice OPAC too ! :P , well done |
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library_guy |
sorry im just getting back guys...and I feel instead of removing that line it would be better to say "No location information available" |
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library_guy |
also thanks mtj |
| 03:37 |
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library_guy |
i was a web developer in a previous life :p |
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sekjal |
library_guy: adding a "no location info" note would be a good <otherwise>... it would be easy enough to JQuery out, though I agree with mtj that a patch to resolve that would be preferable. |
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sekjal |
and also, yes, very nice OPAC you've got there |
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mtj |
its probably a mod to your MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl file , then |
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mtj |
local jquery mods survive upgrades quite nicely, too |
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library_guy |
thats what i did to mod the Location mtj, and thank you also sekjal. I am trying to get otherwise to work. The problem is I don't know how to tell if there is a call number |
| 03:41 |
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library_guy |
or maybe i misunderstood what you guys were recommending |
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library_guy |
you want me to patch the xsl right? |
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sekjal |
<xsl:if test="items:itemcallnumber != '' and items:itemcallnumber"> |
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sekjal |
though you may need to be in some specific context for that |
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sekjal |
my mind is melting fast |
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sekjal |
I think it's time for bed |
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mtj |
i gotta finish off a 3.4 upgrade too |
| 03:43 |
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library_guy |
lol fair enough |
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library_guy |
cya sekjal |
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library_guy |
boo everybody is leaving poor library_guy |
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druthb |
I'm not. Should be here....well, for a while, anyway. |
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mtj |
library_guy: sounds like you are on the right track, tho.. |
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library_guy |
aww thanks druthb |
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mtj |
heya druthb |
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library_guy |
and yeah I am, just gotta figure out a clever way to hack my way through xslt |
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druthb |
:) |
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druthb |
hi, library_guy and mtj. :) |
| 03:45 |
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mtj |
looking forward to hanging in mumbai ;) |
| 03:46 |
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library_guy |
so this is the bit i need to see if the location exists: "count(key('item-by-status-and-branch', concat(items:status, ' ', items:homebranch)))" |
| 03:46 |
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druthb |
oooh, yes! |
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library_guy |
the problem is...it happens in a loop |
| 03:46 |
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library_guy |
so the scope dies with the loop |
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mtj |
same hotel hopefully |
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druthb |
that'd be fun. I'm staying with Brooke and jransom, I think is the current plan. Should be fun. |
| 03:48 |
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* library_guy |
wants to go to mumbai |
| 03:48 |
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library_guy |
im small enough to fit in a suitcase :) |
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* druthb |
has a big ol' duffel. |
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library_guy |
excellent bc library_guy isn't really that small :'( |
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druthb |
:) |
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sekjal |
library_guy: could you define a variable outside the scope of the loop, then update it while in the loop? will XSLT work that way... I forget |
| 03:51 |
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library_guy |
i forget too...actually now that i think about it...i think variables are global inside the "template" block |
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library_guy |
but they just get overwritten not updated |
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sekjal |
hmmm, I'd love to ponder at this some more, but the logic centers have pretty much failed, so I need to reboot. g'night, #koha |
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* druthb |
grumbles at failing package builds... |
| 03:58 |
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* library_guy |
thinks its probably the .t file :p |
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mtj |
hmm, anyone remember the magic script that converts .tmpl files to .tt files? |
| 04:14 |
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mtj |
aah, google to the rescue :) |
| 04:16 |
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mtj |
./installer/html-template-to-template-toolkit.pl --koharoot /path/to/the/root -f koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/ilsdi.tmpl |
| 04:17 |
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mtj |
http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/035416.html |
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cait |
good mornign #koha |
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library_guy |
morning cait |
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cait |
hi library_guy :) |
| 04:32 |
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library_guy |
its bedtime for me here |
| 04:33 |
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library_guy |
so goodnight cait and #koha |
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druthb |
hi, cait. :) |
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cait |
hi druthb - go to bed! :) |
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druthb |
anyone seen what could make build-git-snapshot die silently? I'm not able to build packages! |
| 04:40 |
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mtj |
druthb: sorry, i *still* haven't played with the Koha packages yet :/ |
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mtj |
and eythian is off to indo today? |
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druthb |
hmf. It's screeching about dependencies, but it's stuff I have installed. Very annoying. |
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Oak |
Knock Knock Knockin' on Heaven's Door |
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cait |
hi Oak |
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Oak |
hello cait |
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francharb |
hello |
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wahanui |
privet, francharb |
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Oak |
Bonjour francharb |
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cait |
hi francharb :) |
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francharb |
hi Oak, cait! |
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hdl1 |
hi |
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wahanui |
hey, hdl1 |
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alex_a |
hello #koha |
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alex_a |
hi Oak cait francharb hdl1 and all |
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Oak |
Bonjour monsieur alex_a |
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Oak |
:) |
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alex_a |
With a upper case M please :p |
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Oak |
ah, okay, cool :) |
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alex_a |
;) |
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cait |
hi alex_a |
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Oak |
@wunder islamabad |
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huginn |
Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 28.0�C (11:00 AM PKT on July 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.45 in 997 hPa. |
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clrh_ |
hi |
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wahanui |
hey, clrh_ |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
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magnuse |
@seen conan |
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huginn |
magnuse: conan was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 51 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <conan> magnuse: I stared at those yesterday |
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magnuse |
hm |
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slef |
oakivil: hi. We're using EDIFACT messages with MARC records over FTP because that's what our sponsor wanted. We have a project now started to port this to 3.4/3.6 but first we've got to complete some migrations so we can concentrate on it. |
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slef |
@query EDI |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1232 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add Invoice/Credit/Fines Payed For Day on Issues (Print Page) (Print Slip) |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3657 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Editing MARC Authority Subfield Structure - Librarian Text is Mandatory |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6327 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , editing frameworks looses framework suggestion |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6401 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW , Give Ian Walls credit in the history file. |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1084 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , would be nice to remove records from breeding tables. |
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slef |
@query EDIFACT |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2443 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , Acquisitions by EDIFACT |
| 09:46 |
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slef |
that's the one to subscribe to if you want to subscribe to updates, or you can tell me more about what you want here some time and I'll discuss things |
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magnuse |
wow, hadn't seen that before... |
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slef |
magnuse: the EDIFACT bug or @query |
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slef |
? |
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magnuse |
the @query thing |
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slef |
yeah, can't remember why I found it. |
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* magnuse |
thinks maybe huginn needs some docs, like a page on the wiki... |
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druthb |
o/ |
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magnuse |
\o |
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Oak |
heya druthb :) |
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Oak |
\o #koha |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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druthb |
hi, Oak! |
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Oak |
:) |
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Oak |
greetings nengard |
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nengard |
hiya Oak |
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Oak |
:) |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya kf |
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Oak |
kf |
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kf |
hi Oak and magnuse |
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slef |
magnuse: It has docs. Just msg huginn help or msg huginn list. |
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slef |
now lunch :) |
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rhcl_away |
anybody have time to talk? |
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Oak |
yes ketchup |
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Oak |
go ahead |
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Oak |
what do you want to talk about? Life, death, fate, destiny, ice cream, easter bunny? |
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rhcl |
If you have something checked out already, and try to check it out again, as might happen when you want to renew it, |
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rhcl |
you get a yellow box with a "renew checkout (y)" or something else with a "(n)". |
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Oak |
ah, I have no idea. Someone else must answer that. |
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rhcl |
This gives the appearance that if you simply press "Y", the item will be renewed. However, that doesn't happen. |
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rhcl |
I'll continue anyway... :) |
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oleonard |
It follows the rules of the browser's access key implementation |
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slef |
rhcl: "press" as in keyboard? |
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rhcl |
That is partly controlled by the accesskey settings of the browser. |
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rhcl |
slef: yes |
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rhcl |
but perhaps also controlled by the javascript |
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slef |
yeah, firefox-based browsers has the BRAINDEAD shift+alt+key combo by default IIRC |
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oleonard |
rhcl: That particular case is not controlled by js |
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rhcl |
in our case, w/ FF4 and default config, we have to enter control + alt + Y |
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rhcl |
OK, so there is no tweaking the js to simply be able to enter the "Y" or "N" ? |
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slef |
we should sort out tabindex, so you just go tab, enter |
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rhcl |
you can't even tab to that field |
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oleonard |
Good idea slef |
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slef |
oleonard will know. |
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slef |
oleonard: big job, needs us to declare standards so alerts > ordinary forms > top forms and stuff like that, then review/change almost all templates :-/ |
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rhcl |
our circ people sometimes get big stacks of things to checkout, including things needing to be renewed. They's prefer to be able to just hit the "Y" or "N" - one keystroke, instead of putting down |
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slef |
bbl |
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rhcl |
the books they have in hand and doing two or more keystrokes, (if you put down what you're holding, you might just as well click with the mouse) |
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rhcl |
tnx slef |
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oleonard |
In this case I think I'd rather use js to set the focus on the first button in the dialog |
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slef |
(but I agree with any easier-to-use things) |
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slef |
(focus-stealing)-- |
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oleonard |
How is focus-stealing in this situation different that setting the tabindex? |
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slef |
oleonard: can't we make y and n work if no other input is focused? |
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slef |
because you have to press tab to activate the tabindex |
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slef |
now seriously bbl :) |
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* oleonard |
doesn't see the disadvantage in a task-focused interaction like this |
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oleonard |
But it is probably possible to use the hotkeys jquery plugin to set keyboard triggers in this case |
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rhcl |
want me to bug it? |
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oleonard |
If you hope it will happen, yes :) |
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* magnuse |
has had people asking about keyboard shortcuts in koha... |
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rhcl |
I'm going to check out the plugin |
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gmcharlt_ |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt_: Quote #71: "cait: hm it works now and I have no idea why :)" (added by chris at 07:47 PM, April 08, 2010) |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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magnuse |
yay |
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magnuse |
@quote random |
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huginn |
magnuse: Quote #129: "jcamins: take to heart the old saying- 'don't be a git, use git." (added by wizzyrea at 07:01 PM, April 27, 2011) |
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magnuse |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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magnuse |
ok, time to make the weekly pizza, see ya #koha |
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* jcamins_away |
is jealous. |
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* jcamins_away |
hasn't made pizza in ages. |
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oleonard |
That doesn't sound like you jcamins_away |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: I know. Tragic, isn't it? |
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kf |
he will make pizza again |
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Oak |
oooh did I just hear pizza |
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kf |
jcamins: run! |
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* jcamins_away |
is going to bake more starting this summer. Baking is fun! |
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Oak |
where is it? where is it> |
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rhcl |
so jcamins_away, how did the class go? I was mildly interested in your occasional comments |
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kf |
only wanted to exress some optimism |
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jcamins_away |
rhcl: which class? |
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rhcl |
didn't catch the name, but it involved jewish history. |
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jcamins_away |
Okay. I just guest spoke at a symposium on teaching cataloging yesterday, so I wasn't sure if that's what you were talking about. |
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jcamins_away |
Over all, it was a pretty good class. My criticisms of the usual historiography of Russian Jews were apparently too mild for my professor, though. |
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* oleonard |
nods his head knowingly as if he understands |
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jcamins_away |
My professor thought I was agreeing with the trend of seeing Jews only as passive victims. I wasn't. |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: lest you think I have been entirely replaced by aliens, I just made some stovetop blueberry-strawberry-cherry cobbler for breakfast this morning. |
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oleonard |
That's more like it. |
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rhcl |
A tab of metformin to go with that? |
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* jcamins_away |
curses bureaucracy. |
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rhcl |
Hope my comment didn't set that off... |
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jcamins_away |
I sent in a form *from the Department of State*, and received a letter, again from the Department of State, informing me that I needed to use a form from the Department of State. |
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rhcl |
Oh, that's recursive government |
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jcamins_away |
That's stupid government, is what it is. |
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library_systems_guy |
morning #koha |
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oleonard |
Speak for yourself library_systems_guy! |
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* oleonard |
is firmly afternoon. |
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Oak |
night here |
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* library_systems_guy |
has a question about marc |
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library_systems_guy |
what field/subfield do you guys store call numbers in |
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library_systems_guy |
I want to check to see if one exists in the record before i print a location line |
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library_systems_guy |
and we have like 4 places it exists...which to me seems messed up |
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library_systems_guy |
but maybe im wrong |
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jcamins_away |
library_systems_guy: 952$o. |
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library_systems_guy |
is that the standard place for it jcamins_away |
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jcamins_away |
There may also be call numbers stored in 050, 082, 090, 092, and/or 099. |
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jcamins_away |
library_systems_guy: no, that's where Koha looks. |
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jcamins_away |
The standard optionally calls for call numbers in 050 or 082. |
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library_systems_guy |
that is so messed up |
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jcamins_away |
Many libraries store call numbers in 852hi, too. |
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* library_systems_guy |
hates marc :'( |
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* everyone |
hates marc |
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oleonard |
:D |
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library_systems_guy |
clever jcamins lol |
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library_systems_guy |
jcamins: do you know the name of that field |
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library_systems_guy |
im looking to do something like this: count(marc:datafield[@tag=$AlternateHoldingsField]) |
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jcamins |
library_systems_guy: what? |
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library_systems_guy |
Well nengard doesn't want the location line i was working on to show up if there isn't a call number available |
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library_systems_guy |
so I was trying to figure out a way to see if the call number exists in the marc record before i print the record |
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* nengard |
thinks it's confusing to say we have an available copy but there are no locations to find it in :) |
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jcamins |
library_systems_guy: the call number comes from the item. |
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jcamins |
952o. |
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jcamins |
It's the part in parentheses. |
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jcamins |
You'll need to define a variable yourself if you want to use a variable. |
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jcamins |
However, be aware that XSLT variables aren't variable. |
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library_systems_guy |
lol @ xslt |
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library_systems_guy |
so i can just say datafield[952o]? |
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jcamins |
library_systems_guy: no, you'll have to use xpath. |
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library_systems_guy |
nengard: should that ever happen. I mean technically if it is available it has to have a location rihgt? |
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nengard |
cataloging errors happen all the time |
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library_systems_guy |
then a black location should help you correct it more quickly ;) |
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library_systems_guy |
blank* |
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sekjal |
and we'll have to factor in support for the AlternateHoldingsField syspref |
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sekjal |
for those cases were there aren't any items, but there are still physical serials issues someplace in the library |
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library_systems_guy |
aww sekjal...i was having an ok day till you said that |
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sekjal |
don't ruin this lovely Friday over it; but it'll have to be considered at some point |
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library_systems_guy |
right... |
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cait |
hi sekal |
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sekjal |
hi, cait! |
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* library_systems_guy |
feels in over his head |
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cait |
:) |
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Oak |
cait |
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cait |
hi Oak and library_systems_guy - hi #koha |
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cait |
it's friday! |
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* jcamins |
doesn't really see any issue with AlternateHoldingsField. |
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library_systems_guy |
hey cait |
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jcamins |
I mean, unless and until that is made so that it can be used in tandem with items. |
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* library_systems_guy |
has to run for a bit |
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library_systems_guy |
can we pick this back up this afternoon |
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library_systems_guy |
bbl #koha |
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cait |
not sure I want to read the logs to find out with what sekjal didn't want to ruin this friday |
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jcamins |
cait: AlternateHoldingsField. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
sounds not ruining :) |
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jcamins |
cait: it is if you're trying to redo the availability display in the results screen. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
but it doesn't work now... so you can't brak it :) |
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cait |
you can only make it better |
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cait |
the alternateholdings - and there are some things it could do better for normal display |
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jcamins |
cait: yes, like show up at all? |
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* jcamins |
thinks that would be a good start. ;) |
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cait |
yep :) |
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jcamins |
But at least it works for many use cases. |
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cait |
yep - it's good |
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cait |
but not showind on the result list (yet) |
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jcamins |
When XSLT is enabled and there are no items it does. |
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cait |
oh1 |
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cait |
didn't know that |
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cait |
that's cool |
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cait |
thought it was only showing on the detail pages |
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cait |
should know you have taken care of that |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
It doesn't work with normal view, though, I don't think. |
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cait |
I think xslt view has many advantages over normal view |
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jcamins |
Oh, yes it does. |
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jcamins |
Cool. |
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sekjal |
I should run the OPAC through nytprof and see if there are any significant performance gains/losses one way or the other |
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sekjal |
I'd think that XSLT processing would be expensive |
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jcamins |
I'm sure it is. |
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Oak |
larryb, we missed you. |
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* library_systems_guy |
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Oak |
how much you ran library_systems_guy |
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library_systems_guy |
lol about 2 miles |
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library_systems_guy |
its hot here |
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Oak |
huh, i thought you went for running |
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Oak |
oh okay |
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library_systems_guy |
lol actually i did go for a workout |
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library_systems_guy |
I like to go on my lunch break |
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Oak |
good good |
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Oak |
:) |
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library_systems_guy |
So I don't really understand alternate holdings |
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library_systems_guy |
and how they are supposed to work vs. how they are working now |
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Oak |
2 miles is enough |
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library_systems_guy |
yeah especially at 95 degrees F |
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Oak |
yup |
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library_systems_guy |
I see something about alternate holdings in the xsl file for opac results |
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library_systems_guy |
but i really don't know what it does |
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sekjal |
library_systems_guy: it let's you specify a MARC tag that contains the holdings for the title, when there are no items attached |
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sekjal |
very useful for serials |
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library_systems_guy |
ahh |
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sekjal |
where you may not have any barcoded items, but you've got date ranges of loose issues |
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library_systems_guy |
that makes...some sense |
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library_systems_guy |
but I really have a lacking knowledge of library inner workings :'( |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6543] Column hiding on batch item edit/delete not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6543> |
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jcamins |
library_systems_guy: AlternateHoldings is working as designed, but I think sekjal is thinking about making it optional to display it *in addition* to items, and not just when there are no items. |
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sekjal |
if there are no items, I assume there would be no Location(s) line |
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sekjal |
but the holdings specified in AlternateHoldingsField may indeed have a Location |
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sekjal |
probably better to just put that in a different subfield of the same field, and call it in with the separator |
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sekjal |
easier, at least |
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jcamins |
sekjal: in order to have a separate Location, you'd have to do quite a lot of adjusting. |
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oleonard |
nengard: Re: Bug 6543, I wonder if the cookie hiding the title column is left over from pre-fixed state |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6543 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Column hiding on batch item edit/delete not working |
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nengard |
meaning? |
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oleonard |
Did you try "Show all columns" ? |
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nengard |
yes, still no title |
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nengard |
did shift refresh as well |
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* oleonard |
sees title just fine |
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nengard |
i'm on FF5 |
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nengard |
could that be it? |
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nengard |
i can do a video for you to see what i see |
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nengard |
hang on |
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nengard |
oleonard http://screencast.com/t/YkIR7gOI |
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oleonard |
nengard: Do you have the Web Developer toolbar? Can you try using the cookie menu to delete domain and session cookies? |
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nengard |
sure |
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nengard |
yup title's there now |
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nengard |
will sign off |
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nengard |
but is it something people have to worry about? |
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nengard |
when upgrading? |
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jcamins |
Myshkin says hi. |
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nengard |
hello kitty |
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jcamins |
He just toppled head first onto my lap. |
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nengard |
heh |
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oleonard |
nengard: If they had tried to use the column-hiding checkboxes and left it in a state where the title column was hidden, then they would experience what you did |
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nengard |
got it |
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nengard |
so it's unlikely to happen |
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nengard |
but if it does we know how to answer the issue ;) |
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nengard |
oops - my patch didn't email cause i changed my email settings today and didn't update git ... got to do that |
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rhcl |
привет котенок |
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jcamins |
Я Ñто Ñлово никогда неÑлышал. Что значит - котенок? |
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jcamins |
котёнок |
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jcamins |
Да. Конечно. |
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rhcl |
котенок |
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wizzyrea |
ooh interesting http://www.infoworld.com/d/ope[…]tions-decline-785 |
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jcamins |
Of course, there are a lot more people using FOSS now, though. |
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rhcl |
well, not sure I agree entirely. There are now zillions and zillions of OS projects, so there's a diluting effect for those programmers, where 5-10 years ago there were people dedicated to the concept, but choosing to join a project in a smaller pond. |
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rhcl |
(my comment in response to the article and it's author) |
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oleonard |
"Five years ago, vendors were using "open source" for the same reasons." I'm quite happy to let open-source-poseurs give up using "open source" as a buzzword which they don't really adhere to. |
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wizzyrea |
^ me too |
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nengard |
+1 |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles at nengards +1 |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
that's how we did it before G+ came along |
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nengard |
they can't steal my +1 :) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe they learned it from us (where us is geeks everywhere) |
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library_systems_guy |
nengard: just to clarify, having an item without a call number to display in the location line is still unacceptable? |
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library_systems_guy |
or should i go ahead and commit that? |
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nengard |
go ahead and commit that |
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nengard |
I'll sign off - it's not a bug you're introducing |
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nengard |
you're right it's that way now |
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nengard |
I dont like it, but it's not your fault :) |
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nengard |
or your patch's fault |
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library_systems_guy |
ok...ive been racking my brain trying to figure out how to fix it but i can't seem to figure it out |
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jcamins |
Ooh! Myshkin has discovered a dream-bunny, I think. |
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cait |
dream bunny? |
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cait |
hunting something i his sleep? |
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jcamins |
He was. |
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wizzyrea |
did he need a kitten hug? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: he's pretty big, but, yeah, that's what it looked like. |
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wizzyrea |
<3 |
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jcamins |
Speaking of adorable kittens. |
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jcamins |
http://cuteoverload.files.word[…]0.jpg?w=560&h=569 |
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* Oak |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
bowties are cool |
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jcamins |
Actually, that kitten looks disturbingly like my wife's advisor. |
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wizzyrea |
rofl |
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* oleonard |
googles kitten fez |
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oleonard |
google does not disappoint: http://www.ectomo.com/wp-conte[…]fez.thumbnail.jpg |
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nengard |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5079] Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079> |
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this is good song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]player_detailpage |
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good noght |
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crap |
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library_systems_guy |
sekjal: let me know how that patch test goes would you? |
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library_systems_guy: sure thing |
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library_systems_guy |
awesome :D idk why im so nervous about this patch lol |
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sekjal |
well, as far as new features go, it's not insubstantial, and it'll be handy for lots of libraries. it's also a lot of nuanced work, so it's take some iterative development to get to where it is now |
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I hope it helps a lot. I know we got a lot of complains about the way availability was ordered to it seemed more natural to have it in a location |
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sekjal |
I think it'll help distinguish between what's available and where its shelved (two very distinct bits of data) |
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library_systems_guy |
does anybody else have a div around their advanced search form? |
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library_systems_guy |
I thought that was one of the first commits i did |
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library_systems_guy |
but for some reason its gone :'( |
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jcamins |
library_systems_guy: it shows up in git log. |
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library_systems_guy |
hmm |
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jcamins |
library_systems_guy: it's there. |
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odd |
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sekjal |
library_systems_guy: is your local branch synced to current master's HEAD? |
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jcamins |
body/div#doc3/div#bd/div#yui-main |
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library_systems_guy |
yes it is sekjal |
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sekjal |
huh, very strange |
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library_systems_guy |
oh |
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library_systems_guy |
i know what it is |
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library_systems_guy |
i modified the yui libs |
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library_systems_guy |
but deleted my changes |
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doesn't like the yui format |
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library_systems_guy |
when you guys write css/js code in prefs do you write them somewhere else first and paste them in? |
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jcamins |
Generally I test it in the Inspect Element console, then copy it in. |
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library_systems_guy |
ahh |
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library_systems_guy |
i was thinking about writing a js function to make ctrl + s submit the form |
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library_systems_guy |
because i press it out of habit all the time |
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jcamins: http://www.changethethought.co[…]ent/getoverit.gif |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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hola |
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