Time  Nick                  Message
21:58 pianohacker           hola
21:12 jcamins               Hehe.
21:12 wizzyrea              jcamins: http://www.changethethought.com/wp-content/getoverit.gif
21:02 library_systems_guy   because i press it out of habit all the time
21:01 library_systems_guy   i was thinking about writing a js function to make ctrl + s submit the form
21:01 library_systems_guy   ahh
21:01 jcamins               Generally I test it in the Inspect Element console, then copy it in.
21:00 library_systems_guy   when you guys write css/js code in prefs do you write them somewhere else first and paste them in?
20:54 * library_systems_guy doesn't like the yui format
20:54 library_systems_guy   but deleted my changes
20:54 library_systems_guy   i modified the yui libs
20:54 library_systems_guy   i know what it is
20:54 library_systems_guy   oh
20:54 sekjal                huh, very strange
20:53 library_systems_guy   yes it is sekjal
20:53 jcamins               body/div#doc3/div#bd/div#yui-main
20:53 sekjal                library_systems_guy:  is your local branch synced to current master's HEAD?
20:52 library_systems_guy   odd
20:52 jcamins               library_systems_guy: it's there.
20:52 library_systems_guy   hmm
20:52 jcamins               library_systems_guy: it shows up in git log.
20:51 library_systems_guy   but for some reason its gone :'(
20:50 library_systems_guy   I thought that was one of the first commits i did
20:50 library_systems_guy   does anybody else have a div around their advanced search form?
19:42 sekjal                I think it'll help distinguish between what's available and where its shelved (two very distinct bits of data)
19:41 library_systems_guy   I hope it helps a lot.  I know we got a lot of complains about the way availability was ordered to it seemed more natural to have it in a location
19:39 sekjal                well, as far as new features go, it's not insubstantial, and it'll be handy for lots of libraries.  it's also a lot of nuanced work, so it's take some iterative development to get to where it is now
19:37 library_systems_guy   awesome :D idk why im so nervous about this patch lol
19:36 sekjal                library_systems_guy:  sure thing
19:34 library_systems_guy   sekjal: let me know how that patch test goes would you?
19:00 Oak                   crap
19:00 Oak                   good noght
19:00 Oak                   this is good song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVEgkOTCvG0&feature=player_detailpage
18:58 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5079] Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079>
18:53 wizzyrea              lol
18:53 nengard               heh
18:52 oleonard              google does not disappoint: http://www.ectomo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/fridayfez.thumbnail.jpg
18:51 * oleonard            googles kitten fez
18:51 wizzyrea              rofl
18:51 jcamins               Actually, that kitten looks disturbingly like my wife's advisor.
18:51 wizzyrea              bowties are cool
18:50 * Oak                 waves
18:50 jcamins               http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/tumblr_lj5xy5shmp1qg7e2lo1_500.jpg?w=560&h=569
18:50 jcamins               Speaking of adorable kittens.
18:49 wizzyrea              <3
18:49 jcamins               wizzyrea: he's pretty big, but, yeah, that's what it looked like.
18:49 wizzyrea              did he need a kitten hug?
18:48 jcamins               He was.
18:47 cait                  hunting something i his sleep?
18:47 cait                  dream bunny?
18:46 jcamins               Ooh! Myshkin has discovered a dream-bunny, I think.
18:44 library_systems_guy   ok...ive been racking my brain trying to figure out how to fix it but i can't seem to figure it out
18:44 nengard               or your patch's fault
18:44 nengard               I dont like it, but it's not your fault :)
18:44 nengard               you're right it's that way now
18:43 nengard               I'll sign off - it's not a bug you're introducing
18:43 nengard               go ahead and commit that
18:43 library_systems_guy   or should i go ahead and commit that?
18:43 library_systems_guy   nengard: just to clarify, having an item without a call number to display in the location line is still unacceptable?
18:39 wizzyrea              hehe they learned it from us (where us is geeks everywhere)
18:39 nengard               they can't steal my +1 :)
18:39 nengard               that's how we did it before G+ came along
18:39 nengard               :)
18:38 * wizzyrea            giggles at nengards +1
18:36 nengard               +1
18:34 wizzyrea              ^ me too
18:33 oleonard              "Five years ago, vendors were using "open source" for the same reasons." I'm quite happy to let open-source-poseurs give up using "open source" as a buzzword which they don't really adhere to.
18:31 rhcl                  (my comment in response to the article and it's author)
18:29 rhcl                  well, not sure I agree entirely. There are now zillions and zillions of OS projects, so there's a diluting effect for those programmers, where 5-10 years ago there were people dedicated to the concept, but choosing to join a project in a smaller pond.
18:29 jcamins               Of course, there are a lot more people using FOSS now, though.
18:26 wizzyrea              ooh interesting http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/no-need-worry-open-source-contributions-decline-785
18:25 rhcl                  котенок
18:22 jcamins               Да. Конечно.
18:22 jcamins               котёнок
18:21 jcamins               Я это слово никогда неслышал. Что значит - котенок?
18:19 rhcl                  привет котенок
18:19 nengard               oops - my patch didn't email cause i changed my email settings today and didn't update git ... got to do that
18:16 nengard               but if it does we know how to answer the issue ;)
18:16 nengard               so it's unlikely to happen
18:16 nengard               got it
18:15 oleonard              nengard: If they had tried to use the column-hiding checkboxes and left it in a state where the title column was hidden, then they would experience what you did
18:13 nengard               heh
18:13 jcamins               He just toppled head first onto my lap.
18:13 nengard               hello kitty
18:13 jcamins               Myshkin says hi.
18:12 nengard               when upgrading?
18:12 nengard               but is it something people have to worry about?
18:12 nengard               will sign off
18:12 nengard               yup title's there now
18:11 nengard               sure
18:10 oleonard              nengard: Do you have the Web Developer toolbar? Can you try using the cookie menu to delete domain and session cookies?
18:10 nengard               oleonard http://screencast.com/t/YkIR7gOI
18:06 nengard               hang on
18:06 nengard               i can do a video for you to see what i see
18:06 nengard               could that be it?
18:06 nengard               i'm on FF5
18:06 * oleonard            sees title just fine
18:06 nengard               did shift refresh as well
18:06 nengard               yes, still no title
18:06 oleonard              Did you try "Show all columns" ?
18:05 nengard               meaning?
18:05 huginn                04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6543 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Column hiding on batch item edit/delete not working
18:05 oleonard              nengard: Re: Bug 6543, I wonder if the cookie hiding the title column is left over from pre-fixed state
18:03 jcamins               sekjal: in order to have a separate Location, you'd have to do quite a lot of adjusting.
18:03 sekjal                easier, at least
18:03 sekjal                probably better to just put that in a different subfield of the same field, and call it in with the separator
18:02 sekjal                but the holdings specified in AlternateHoldingsField may indeed have a Location
18:02 sekjal                if there are no items, I assume there would be no Location(s) line
18:01 jcamins               library_systems_guy: AlternateHoldings is working as designed, but I think sekjal is thinking about making it optional to display it *in addition* to items, and not just when there are no items.
17:56 huginn                New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6543] Column hiding on batch item edit/delete not working <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6543>
17:52 library_systems_guy   but I really have a lacking knowledge of library inner workings :'(
17:52 library_systems_guy   that makes...some sense
17:51 sekjal                where you may not have any barcoded items, but you've got date ranges of loose issues
17:51 library_systems_guy   ahh
17:51 sekjal                very useful for serials
17:51 sekjal                library_systems_guy:  it let's you specify a MARC tag that contains the holdings for the title, when there are no items attached
17:50 library_systems_guy   but i really don't know what it does
17:50 library_systems_guy   I see something about alternate holdings in the xsl file for opac results
17:49 Oak                   yup
17:49 library_systems_guy   yeah especially at 95 degrees F
17:48 Oak                   2 miles is enough
17:48 library_systems_guy   and how they are supposed to work vs. how they are working now
17:48 library_systems_guy   So I don't really understand alternate holdings
17:48 Oak                   :)
17:48 Oak                   good good
17:48 library_systems_guy   I like to go on my lunch break
17:48 library_systems_guy   lol actually i did go for a workout
17:47 Oak                   oh okay
17:47 Oak                   huh, i thought you went for running
17:47 library_systems_guy   its hot here
17:47 library_systems_guy   lol about 2 miles
17:47 Oak                   how much you ran library_systems_guy
17:45 * library_systems_guy is back
17:44 Oak                   larryb, we missed you.
17:39 * larryb_away         is back (gone 01:00:12)
17:20 jcamins               I'm sure it is.
17:20 sekjal                I'd think that XSLT processing would be expensive
17:20 sekjal                I should run the OPAC through nytprof and see if there are any significant performance gains/losses one way or the other
17:02 jcamins               Cool.
17:02 jcamins               Oh, yes it does.
17:01 cait                  I think xslt view has many advantages over normal view
17:01 jcamins               It doesn't work with normal view, though, I don't think.
17:01 jcamins               :)
17:01 cait                  should know you have taken care of that
17:00 cait                  thought it was only showing on the detail pages
17:00 cait                  that's cool
17:00 cait                  didn't know that
16:59 cait                  oh1
16:57 jcamins               When XSLT is enabled and there are no items it does.
16:57 cait                  but not showind on the result list (yet)
16:57 cait                  yep - it's good
16:56 jcamins               But at least it works for many use cases.
16:56 cait                  yep :)
16:56 * jcamins             thinks that would be a good start. ;)
16:56 jcamins               cait: yes, like show up at all?
16:56 cait                  the alternateholdings - and there are some things it could do better for normal display
16:55 cait                  you can only make it better
16:55 cait                  but it doesn't work now... so you can't brak it :)
16:55 cait                  ok
16:55 cait                  hm
16:54 jcamins               cait: it is if you're trying to redo the availability display in the results screen.
16:54 cait                  sounds not ruining :)
16:54 cait                  hm
16:53 jcamins               cait: AlternateHoldingsField.
16:53 cait                  not sure I want to read the logs to find out with what sekjal didn't want to ruin this friday
16:52 library_systems_guy   bbl #koha
16:51 library_systems_guy   can we pick this back up this afternoon
16:51 * library_systems_guy has to run for a bit
16:50 jcamins               I mean, unless and until that is made so that it can be used in tandem with items.
16:50 library_systems_guy   hey cait
16:50 * jcamins             doesn't really see any issue with AlternateHoldingsField.
16:50 cait                  it's friday!
16:50 cait                  hi Oak and library_systems_guy - hi #koha
16:50 Oak                   cait
16:50 cait                  :)
16:50 * library_systems_guy feels in over his head
16:50 sekjal                hi, cait!
16:50 cait                  hi sekal
16:50 library_systems_guy   right...
16:49 sekjal                don't ruin this lovely Friday over it; but it'll have to be considered at some point
16:48 library_systems_guy   aww sekjal...i was having an ok day till you said that
16:48 sekjal                for those cases were there aren't any items, but there are still physical serials issues someplace in the library
16:48 sekjal                and we'll have to factor in support for the AlternateHoldingsField syspref
16:47 library_systems_guy   blank*
16:47 library_systems_guy   then a black location should help you correct it more quickly ;)
16:47 nengard               cataloging errors happen all the time
16:46 library_systems_guy   nengard: should that ever happen.  I mean technically if it is available it has to have a location rihgt?
16:46 jcamins               library_systems_guy: no, you'll have to use xpath.
16:45 library_systems_guy   so i can just say datafield[952o]?
16:45 library_systems_guy   lol @ xslt
16:44 jcamins               However, be aware that XSLT variables aren't variable.
16:44 jcamins               You'll need to define a variable yourself if you want to use a variable.
16:44 jcamins               It's the part in parentheses.
16:44 jcamins               952o.
16:43 jcamins               library_systems_guy: the call number comes from the item.
16:43 * nengard             thinks it's confusing to say we have an available copy but there are no locations to find it in :)
16:43 library_systems_guy   so I was trying to figure out a way to see if the call number exists in the marc record before i print the record
16:43 library_systems_guy   Well nengard doesn't want the location line i was working on to show up if there isn't a call number available
16:42 jcamins               library_systems_guy: what?
16:40 library_systems_guy   im looking to do something like this: count(marc:datafield[@tag=$AlternateHoldingsField])
16:40 library_systems_guy   jcamins: do you know the name of that field
16:39 * larryb              is away: Gone to pet a cat
16:38 library_systems_guy   clever jcamins lol
16:38 oleonard              :D
16:38 * everyone            hates marc
16:37 * library_systems_guy hates marc :'(
16:37 jcamins_away          Many libraries store call numbers in 852hi, too.
16:36 library_systems_guy   that is so messed up
16:36 jcamins_away          The standard optionally calls for call numbers in 050 or 082.
16:36 jcamins_away          library_systems_guy: no, that's where Koha looks.
16:35 jcamins_away          There may also be call numbers stored in 050, 082, 090, 092, and/or 099.
16:35 library_systems_guy   is that the standard place for it jcamins_away
16:35 jcamins_away          library_systems_guy: 952$o.
16:35 library_systems_guy   but maybe im wrong
16:35 library_systems_guy   and we have like 4 places it exists...which to me seems messed up
16:34 library_systems_guy   I want to check to see if one exists in the record before i print a location line
16:34 library_systems_guy   what field/subfield do you guys store call numbers in
16:34 * library_systems_guy has a question about marc
16:24 Oak                   night here
16:20 * oleonard            is firmly afternoon.
16:20 oleonard              Speak for yourself library_systems_guy!
16:15 library_systems_guy   morning #koha
15:32 jcamins_away          That's stupid government, is what it is.
15:29 rhcl                  Oh, that's recursive government
15:29 jcamins_away          I sent in a form *from the Department of State*, and received a letter, again from the Department of State, informing me that I needed to use a form from the Department of State.
15:29 rhcl                  Hope my comment didn't set that off...
15:28 * jcamins_away        curses bureaucracy.
15:26 rhcl                  A tab of metformin to go with that?
15:19 oleonard              That's more like it.
15:18 jcamins_away          oleonard: lest you think I have been entirely replaced by aliens, I just made some stovetop blueberry-strawberry-cherry cobbler for breakfast this morning.
15:16 jcamins_away          My professor thought I was agreeing with the trend of seeing Jews only as passive victims. I wasn't.
15:13 * oleonard            nods his head knowingly as if he understands
15:12 jcamins_away          Over all, it was a pretty good class. My criticisms of the usual historiography of Russian Jews were apparently too mild for my professor, though.
15:10 jcamins_away          Okay. I just guest spoke at a symposium on teaching cataloging yesterday, so I wasn't sure if that's what you were talking about.
15:10 rhcl                  didn't catch the name, but it involved jewish history.
15:09 jcamins_away          rhcl: which class?
15:09 kf                    only wanted to exress some optimism
15:09 rhcl                  so jcamins_away, how did the class go? I was mildly interested in your occasional comments
15:09 Oak                   where is it? where is it>
15:09 * jcamins_away        is going to bake more starting this summer. Baking is fun!
15:08 kf                    jcamins: run!
15:08 Oak                   oooh did I just hear pizza
15:08 kf                    he will make pizza again
15:08 jcamins_away          oleonard: I know. Tragic, isn't it?
15:08 oleonard              That doesn't sound like you jcamins_away
15:03 * jcamins_away        hasn't made pizza in ages.
15:03 * jcamins_away        is jealous.
15:02 magnuse               ok, time to make the weekly pizza, see ya #koha
15:00 wizzyrea              hehe
15:00 magnuse               heh
14:59 huginn                magnuse: Quote #129: "jcamins: take to heart the old saying- 'don't be a git, use git." (added by wizzyrea at 07:01 PM, April 27, 2011)
14:59 magnuse               @quote random
14:59 magnuse               yay
14:59 huginn                wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
14:59 wizzyrea              @quote random
14:59 huginn                gmcharlt_: Quote #71: "cait: hm it works now and I have no idea why :)" (added by chris at 07:47 PM, April 08, 2010)
14:59 gmcharlt_             @quote random
14:59 rhcl                  I'm going to check out the plugin
14:57 * magnuse             has had people asking about keyboard shortcuts in koha...
14:53 oleonard              If you hope it will happen, yes :)
14:52 rhcl                  want me to bug it?
14:52 oleonard              But it is probably possible to use the hotkeys jquery plugin to set keyboard triggers in this case
14:52 * oleonard            doesn't see the disadvantage in a task-focused interaction like this
14:51 slef                  now seriously bbl :)
14:51 slef                  because you have to press tab to activate the tabindex
14:51 slef                  oleonard: can't we make y and n work if no other input is focused?
14:50 oleonard              How is focus-stealing in this situation different that setting the tabindex?
14:50 slef                  (focus-stealing)--
14:50 slef                  (but I agree with any easier-to-use things)
14:50 oleonard              In this case I think I'd rather use js to set the focus on the first button in the dialog
14:50 rhcl                  tnx slef
14:49 rhcl                  the books they have in hand and doing two or more keystrokes, (if you put down what you're holding, you might just as well click with the mouse)
14:49 slef                  bbl
14:49 rhcl                  our circ people sometimes get big stacks of things to checkout, including things needing to be renewed. They's prefer to be able to just hit the "Y" or "N" - one keystroke, instead of putting down
14:48 slef                  oleonard: big job, needs us to declare standards so alerts > ordinary forms > top forms and stuff like that, then review/change almost all templates :-/
14:47 slef                  oleonard will know.
14:47 oleonard              Good idea slef
14:47 rhcl                  you can't even tab to that field
14:46 slef                  we should sort out tabindex, so you just go tab, enter
14:46 rhcl                  OK, so there is no tweaking the js to simply be able to enter the "Y" or "N"  ?
14:46 rhcl                  in our case, w/ FF4 and default config, we have to enter control + alt + Y
14:46 oleonard              rhcl: That particular case is not controlled by js
14:45 slef                  yeah, firefox-based browsers has the BRAINDEAD shift+alt+key combo by default IIRC
14:45 rhcl                  but perhaps also controlled by the javascript
14:45 rhcl                  slef: yes
14:45 rhcl                  That is partly controlled by the accesskey settings of the browser.
14:45 slef                  rhcl: "press" as in keyboard?
14:45 oleonard              It follows the rules of the browser's access key implementation
14:44 rhcl                  I'll continue anyway... :)
14:44 rhcl                  This gives the appearance that if you simply press "Y", the item will be renewed. However, that doesn't happen.
14:44 Oak                   ah, I have no idea. Someone else must answer that.
14:44 rhcl                  you get a yellow box with a "renew checkout (y)" or something else with a "(n)".
14:44 rhcl                  If you have something checked out already, and try to check it out again, as might happen when you want to renew it,
14:44 Oak                   what do you want to talk about? Life, death, fate, destiny, ice cream, easter bunny?
14:42 Oak                   go ahead
14:42 Oak                   yes ketchup
14:42 rhcl_away             anybody have time to talk?
11:57 slef                  now lunch :)
11:57 slef                  magnuse: It has docs. Just msg huginn help or msg huginn list.
11:56 kf                    hi Oak and magnuse
11:55 Oak                   kf
11:55 magnuse               hiya kf
11:55 kf                    hi #koha
11:30 Oak                   :)
11:30 nengard               hiya Oak
11:26 Oak                   greetings nengard
11:09 Oak                   :)
11:07 druthb                hi, Oak!
11:07 Oak                   magnuse
11:07 magnuse               Oak
11:07 Oak                   \o #koha
11:07 Oak                   heya druthb :)
10:46 magnuse               \o
10:44 druthb                o/
09:52 * magnuse             thinks maybe huginn needs some docs, like a page on the wiki...
09:50 slef                  yeah, can't remember why I found it.
09:47 magnuse               the @query thing
09:47 slef                  ?
09:47 slef                  magnuse: the EDIFACT bug or @query
09:47 magnuse               wow, hadn't seen that before...
09:46 slef                  that's the one to subscribe to if you want to subscribe to updates, or you can tell me more about what you want here some time and I'll discuss things
09:46 huginn                slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2443 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , Acquisitions by EDIFACT
09:46 slef                  @query EDIFACT
09:46 huginn                slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1084 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , would be nice to remove records from breeding tables.
09:46 huginn                slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6401 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW , Give Ian Walls credit in the history file.
09:46 huginn                slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6327 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , editing frameworks looses framework suggestion
09:46 huginn                slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3657 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Editing MARC Authority Subfield Structure - Librarian Text is Mandatory
09:46 huginn                slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add Invoice/Credit/Fines Payed For Day on Issues (Print Page) (Print Slip)
09:46 slef                  @query EDI
09:46 slef                  oakivil: hi. We're using EDIFACT messages with MARC records over FTP because that's what our sponsor wanted. We have a project now started to port this to 3.4/3.6 but first we've got to complete some migrations so we can concentrate on it.
08:41 magnuse               hm
08:40 huginn                magnuse: conan was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 51 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <conan> magnuse: I stared at those yesterday
08:40 magnuse               @seen conan
08:39 magnuse               kia ora #koha
07:30 wahanui               hey, clrh_
07:30 clrh_                 hi
06:35 huginn                Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 28.0�C (11:00 AM PKT on July 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.45 in 997 hPa.
06:35 Oak                   @wunder islamabad
06:21 cait                  hi alex_a
06:17 alex_a                ;)
06:17 Oak                   ah, okay, cool :)
06:16 alex_a                With a upper case M please :p
06:15 Oak                   :)
06:15 Oak                   Bonjour monsieur alex_a
06:14 alex_a                hi Oak cait francharb hdl1 and all
06:13 alex_a                hello #koha
06:06 wahanui               hey, hdl1
06:06 hdl1                  hi
06:00 francharb             hi Oak, cait!
05:59 cait                  hi francharb :)
05:57 Oak                   Bonjour francharb
05:57 wahanui               privet, francharb
05:57 francharb             hello
05:56 Oak                   hello cait
05:56 cait                  hi Oak
05:44 Oak                   Knock Knock Knockin' on Heaven's Door
04:42 druthb                hmf.  It's screeching about dependencies, but it's stuff I have installed.  Very annoying.
04:42 mtj                   and eythian is off to indo today?
04:40 mtj                   druthb: sorry, i *still* haven't played with the Koha packages yet :/
04:34 druthb                anyone seen what could make build-git-snapshot die silently?  I'm not able to build packages!
04:34 cait                  hi druthb - go to bed! :)
04:34 druthb                hi, cait.  :)
04:33 library_guy           so goodnight cait and #koha
04:32 library_guy           its bedtime for me here
04:32 cait                  hi library_guy :)
04:32 library_guy           morning cait
04:31 cait                  good mornign #koha
04:17 mtj                   http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2011-April/035416.html
04:16 mtj                   ./installer/html-template-to-template-toolkit.pl  --koharoot /path/to/the/root -f koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/ilsdi.tmpl
04:14 mtj                   aah, google to the rescue :)
04:12 mtj                   hmm, anyone remember the magic script that converts .tmpl files to .tt files?
03:58 * library_guy         thinks its probably the .t file :p
03:54 * druthb              grumbles at failing package builds...
03:53 sekjal                hmmm, I'd love to ponder at this some more, but the logic centers have pretty much failed, so I need to reboot.  g'night, #koha
03:51 library_guy           but they just get overwritten not updated
03:51 library_guy           i forget too...actually now that i think about it...i think variables are global inside the "template" block
03:50 sekjal                library_guy:  could you define a variable outside the scope of the loop, then update it while in the loop?  will XSLT work that way... I forget
03:49 druthb                :)
03:49 library_guy           excellent bc library_guy isn't really that small :'(
03:48 * druthb              has a big ol' duffel.
03:48 library_guy           im small enough to fit in a suitcase :)
03:48 * library_guy         wants to go to mumbai
03:47 druthb                that'd be fun.  I'm staying with Brooke and jransom, I think is the current plan.  Should be fun.
03:46 mtj                   same hotel hopefully
03:46 library_guy           so the scope dies with the loop
03:46 library_guy           the problem is...it happens in a loop
03:46 druthb                oooh, yes!
03:46 library_guy           so this is the bit i need to see if the location exists: "count(key('item-by-status-and-branch', concat(items:status, ' ', items:homebranch)))"
03:45 mtj                   looking forward to hanging in mumbai  ;)
03:45 druthb                hi, library_guy and mtj.  :)
03:45 druthb                :)
03:45 library_guy           and yeah I am, just gotta figure out a clever way to hack my way through xslt
03:44 mtj                   heya druthb
03:44 library_guy           aww thanks druthb
03:44 mtj                   library_guy:  sounds like you are on the right track, tho..
03:44 druthb                I'm not.  Should be here....well, for a while, anyway.
03:44 library_guy           boo everybody is leaving poor library_guy
03:43 library_guy           cya sekjal
03:43 library_guy           lol fair enough
03:43 mtj                   i gotta finish off a 3.4 upgrade too
03:42 sekjal                I think it's time for bed
03:42 sekjal                my mind is melting fast
03:42 sekjal                though you may need to be in some specific context for that
03:42 sekjal                <xsl:if test="items:itemcallnumber != '' and items:itemcallnumber">
03:41 library_guy           you want me to patch the xsl right?
03:41 library_guy           or maybe i misunderstood what you guys were recommending
03:40 library_guy           thats what i did to mod the Location mtj, and thank you also sekjal.  I am trying to get otherwise to work.  The problem is I don't know how to tell if there is a call number
03:40 mtj                   local jquery mods survive upgrades quite nicely, too
03:39 mtj                   its probably a mod to your MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl file , then
03:38 sekjal                and also, yes, very nice OPAC you've got there
03:38 sekjal                library_guy:  adding a "no location info" note would be a good <otherwise>... it would be easy enough to JQuery out, though I agree with mtj that a patch to resolve that would be preferable.
03:37 library_guy           i was a web developer in a previous life :p
03:36 library_guy           also thanks mtj
03:36 library_guy           sorry im just getting back guys...and I feel instead of removing that line it would be better to say "No location information available"
03:32 mtj                   nice OPAC too ! :P , well done
03:31 mtj                   ... but a bug-report+patch would be better
03:30 mtj                   library_guy:  the last-resort fix to your problem is some jscript/jquery to remove those blank location rows
03:28 mtj                   ie: its a bad example?
03:28 mtj                   library_guy: fyi: your example url has populated location values for all bibs
03:19 sekjal                that's the mechanism used for Availability... perhaps it would pay off for the Location(s) line
03:19 sekjal                library_guy:  have you looked at XSLT keys?
03:14 mtj                   library_guy: what koha version, 3.2 or 3.4?
02:12 library_guy           http://129.114.128.216/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&do=Search&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3ABOOK&sort_by=relevance
02:11 library_guy           err at least that the only way i know
02:11 library_guy           the problem is, to check those things i have to iterate through all those loops
02:10 library_guy           if an item doesn't have a call number or a location I don't want to print the location line
02:10 sekjal                library_guy: ?
02:06 * library_guy         has a conundrum
01:53 chris_n               actually, I'm pretending to be a building automation expert
01:53 chris_n               lol
01:52 mtj                   oooh, are you moonlighting as a food critic now?
01:52 chris_n               aamof when I hear the word 'perl' I think of oysters first rather than code
01:52 mtj                   well done!
01:51 chris_n               :P
01:51 * chris_n             has not sat at his desk for two hours in a row for the past month
01:50 chris_n               seems like it
01:50 mtj                   long time, no chat - i think
01:50 mtj                   and a big "hi" to chris_n  :p
01:49 chris_n               howdy mtj
01:49 mtj                   hiya folks
01:49 * chris_n             wanders in for a moment and looks around
01:44 sekjal                gladly, library_guy
01:44 library_guy           ok thanks sekjal
01:44 library_guy           heh
01:43 sekjal                5) mark the replaced patch as obsolete in Bugzilla (this is right time to use this, I promise)
01:43 library_guy           ok
01:43 sekjal                4) send patch with a not that this replaces the previous
01:43 sekjal                3) git commit --amend
01:43 sekjal                2) git add the change file
01:43 sekjal                1)  make the change
01:43 library_guy           so how can i merge the second patch into the 3rd one
01:42 library_guy           so to fix it I don't want to have to submit a separate 3rd patch
01:42 library_guy           so I made a dumb typo in my commit and typed a 2 instead of a 0
01:42 library_guy           heh
01:42 sekjal                library_guy:  mostly
01:41 library_guy           sekjal you around?
01:37 wahanui               nengard was last seen on #koha 1 days, 4 hours, 50 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: email if you have further questions [Wed Jun 29 20:46:39 2011]
01:37 library_guy           seen nengard
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