IRC log for #koha, 2011-06-22

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02:17 druthb o/
02:23 Space_Librarian \o
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03:41 Brooke kia ora
03:42 Space_Librarian tena koe
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04:08 eythian[0:]: errno=Connection refused
04:08 eythian :(
04:09 bg eythian: I take a look...
04:09 eythian cheers :)
04:10 bg hmm..  worked for me - what are you trying to do?
04:12 eythian $ git fetch kc
04:12 eythian[0:]: errno=Connection refused
04:12 eythian fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
04:13 eythian also:
04:13 bg ah..
04:13 eythian $ telnet 9418
04:13 eythian Trying
04:13 eythian telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
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04:13 bg gitweb is up
04:13 eythian yeah, but not the git server itself it seems
04:16 cait hi bg, eythian and #koha :)
04:16 Space_Librarian hey cait!
04:16 * Space_Librarian hands cait a big plate of cookies
04:16 cait oh thx Space_Librarian :)
04:16 cait cookies for breakfast ..mmm :)
04:19 Judit cookies?
04:19 Judit where?
04:22 bg heya cait
04:22 eythian git is happy again
04:22 * cait shares her cookies with #koha
04:24 Judit :) thank you cait
04:32 Space_Librarian Hey Judit!
04:32 * Space_Librarian passes over more cookies
04:33 Judit me, me, me :)
04:33 Space_Librarian :D
04:33 Judit chocolate chip?
04:33 Space_Librarian with caramel
04:33 Judit oh
04:33 Judit omg
04:34 Space_Librarian hehe. Good to see you on the channel.
04:35 Judit i have been told told it is a nice place
04:35 Space_Librarian these are good people. :) They will help when you get stuck.
04:35 Judit wih cookies
04:35 Space_Librarian yes.
04:36 Judit hm
04:36 Judit do you know a good how to website on customising the opac?
04:37 eythian Owen's blog often has bits on that
04:38 Judit owens blog?
04:38 eythian[…]ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
04:38 eythian err
04:38 eythian
04:39 Judit thanks
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05:23 * Oak waves
05:24 cait morning Oak
05:25 Oak heya cait :] not at work yet huh?
05:25 cait no, but soon :)
05:25 Oak cool
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06:11 alex_a hello :)
06:11 Oak heya alex_a :)
06:12 alex_a morning Oak
06:12 Oak :) you too alex_a
06:13 Oak you are from France alex_a
06:19 alex_a Oak: yes
06:19 alex_a and you ?
06:19 Oak cool alex_a ... I am listening to a French radio on vlc...
06:20 Oak Pakistan alex_a :)
06:20 Oak i am often tuned to it actually... they play good songs
06:20 alex_a Oak: héhé, French radio but without french music ;)
06:20 Oak yup
06:21 alex_a it's better like that
06:21 Oak but in between songs they say something in French which sounds pretty cool ;)
06:21 alex_a ;)
06:23 Oak like: ifey puzein tun kuh it pakhti
06:24 Oak that's what it sounds like :)
06:24 alex_a it's in french ??
06:25 Oak well, that's what *i* hear... can't type the pronunciation... never mind :)
06:25 alex_a :D
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06:25 Judit :)
06:27 * alex_a try to get a french meaning
06:27 alex_a Oak: which song it come from ?
06:28 Oak nah, after few songs, some guy says this (before next song). some sort of advertisement or slogan I guess
06:28 Oak wait, let me cut that part and upload it somewhere...
06:31 alex_a Oak: okk
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06:32 reiveune hello
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06:35 Oak let me know alex_a what he says
06:41 alex_a Oak: don't worry if can't understand. most french people spent their childhood to be tortured for learn a so complicated language
06:41 Oak hehe
06:42 alex_a ;)
06:43 Oak but you guys love your language right... that's what we learned in The Last Lesson by Alphonse Daudet in our school...
06:45 Oak err, i don't know why i still remembered the name of that story
06:45 Oak :)
06:46 alex_a shame on me. Never learned that :(
06:47 Oak read it. it was good.
06:47 Oak we read it in English though
06:48 alex_a Oak: thx for the advice.
06:48 Oak well, not 'advice', a mere recommendation...
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06:52 kf good morning #koha
06:52 Oak ah, I know you!!!
06:52 Oak :) hello kf
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06:55 kf hehe
06:55 kf hi Oak :)
06:59 alex_a hi kf
06:59 kf hi alex_a :)
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07:03 clrh hello
07:03 wahanui hi, clrh
07:03 Oak hello clrh :)
07:04 francharb hello all
07:04 sophie_m hello #koha
07:04 Oak hello francharb
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07:04 Oak hello sophie_m :)
07:07 kf hi francharb and sophie_m
07:07 francharb hi Oak, kf!
07:08 Oak francharb, i am listening to du hit, qui fait bouger ton corp !
07:09 francharb Oak: héhé? what's that?
07:09 francharb s/héhé?/héhé!
07:09 francharb ;)
07:09 Oak just something alex_a told me translation of today...
07:09 Oak :)
07:09 alex_a héhé
07:09 francharb lol
07:12 francharb yesterday was the first day of summer and for 10 years maybe, it's a special night where we celebrate 'amateur music' basicaly, if you have a band, you can play on the street! :) so, everyboby listen to " du hit, qui fait bouger ton corp !" ;)
07:12 francharb you know what it means, right?
07:13 francharb listening to the hit that makes my body shaking ;)
07:14 Oak yup, francharb I knew the meaning... :)
07:14 francharb i didn't mention that i live in france but you may know that... ;)
07:14 sophie_m francharb: it was the 30th anniversary ;-)
07:14 francharb really?
07:14 sophie_m yes :-)
07:15 Oak francharb, in xchat, I right clicked your nick and it says Country: France  :)
07:15 francharb ;)
07:16 francharb http://www.fetedelamusique.cul[…]nal/presentation/
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07:16 francharb Completely  different from a music festival, the Fête de la Musique is  above all a  free popular fête, open to any participant (amateur or  professional  musicians) who wants to perform in it. This Music day  allows the  expression of all styles of music in a cheerful atmosphere.
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07:28 Oak so francharb , will you singing solo, or do you have a band?
07:29 francharb singing solo? sounds like i was part of my high school glee club! ;)
07:30 Oak :)
07:31 francharb meeting time!
07:31 francharb see you later!
07:31 Oak later
07:31 Oak :)
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09:02 Oak @wunder islamabad
09:02 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 39.0�C (2:00 PM PKT on June 22, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising).
09:02 magnuse @wunder boo
09:03 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (10:50 AM CEST on June 22, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady).
09:03 Oak only a 30�C difference ...
09:03 Oak no big dea
09:03 Oak deal*
09:04 magnuse nah... ;-)
09:04 Oak :)
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09:41 magnuse o/
09:41 Oak heya druthb :)
09:41 Oak and magnuse
09:41 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
09:42 magnuse hehe
09:42 Oak funny
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09:43 druthb hi. :)
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09:51 kf hi druthb and magnuse :)
09:51 magnuse hiya kf et al
09:51 druthb wahanui:  kf?
09:51 wahanui i think kf is cait or really, really sweet.
09:52 druthb wahanui: druthb?
09:52 wahanui you are Brooke's sugar mama!
09:52 * druthb rolls her eyes
09:52 Oak wahanui: wahanui?
09:52 wahanui i think i am a bot
09:52 druthb wahanui: Brooke?
09:52 wahanui Brooke tripped on the cord, broke the internet
09:53 kf Oak?
09:53 wahanui well, Oak is Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla.
09:53 Oak uh oh. why can't it tell something short :)
09:54 Oak okay, electricity is about to go
09:54 Oak few minutes
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10:27 kf @wunder Konstanz
10:27 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.2�C (12:25 PM CEST on June 22, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising).
10:28 Judit sounds like winter in sydney :)
10:28 matts is now known as matts_away
10:29 kf the humidity is evil
10:29 kf hope it starts to rain soon
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10:53 syed Installing of Koha... when i run 'perl Makefile.PL' i got some warnings in the end....... Warning: prerequisite CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04 not found.
10:54 syed Warning: prerequisite HTTP::OAI 3.2 not found.
10:54 syed Warning: prerequisite Memoize::Memcached 0.03 not found.
10:54 syed Warning: prerequisite PDF:: API2::Simple 1 not found.
10:54 syed Warning: prerequisite Template 2.22 not found. We have 2.20.
10:55 syed Warning: prerequisite Text::CSV:: Encoded 0.09 not found.
10:55 magnuse syed: what instructions are you following?
10:55 magnuse and what OS are you installing on?
10:55 magnuse it's time to start proposing, folks![…]als_for_KohaCon12
10:56 syed Installation Guide : Original author: Joshua Ferraro...........Modified for Ubuntu by: Chris Nighswonger (cnighswonger AT foundations DOT edu)....... file name INSTALL.ubuntu
10:57 syed i'm installing on Ubuntu 10.4
10:58 kf magnuse++
10:58 kf @karma magnuse
10:58 huginn kf: Karma for "magnuse" has been increased 41 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 41.
10:58 magnuse :-)
10:59 magnuse syed: that's a good start ;-)
10:59 syed magnuse: plz guide me what to do next?
11:00 magnuse syed: most of Koha will work with your current setup
11:00 magnuse so if you are just testing, you can proceed
11:01 syed you mean to say.... just ignore the warning.. and proceed for next step..???
11:01 magnuse yep
11:02 magnuse in general you can try installing the modules as packages - try "lib" + name of module in lowercase with "::" replaced by "-" + "-perl"
11:03 magnuse so to try to install HTTP::OAI this way, try "sudo apt-get install libhttp-oai-perl"
11:03 magnuse if that does not work, try installing from CPAN: "sudo cpan HTTP::OAI"
11:03 magnuse and the same for the other modules mentioned
11:04 magnuse with the version of Template you have you will not get the alternate backgroundcolors on searchresults, they will all be gray
11:04 syed ok... let me try
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11:09 druthb magnuse++  #KohaCon12 stub pages
11:09 magnuse @karma magnuse
11:09 huginn magnuse: Karma for "magnuse" has been increased 42 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 42.
11:10 magnuse thanks ;-)
11:10 druthb !
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11:10 druthb magnuse++ #42 is too low for this amount of awesome.
11:12 magnuse nah
11:17 mirbolt hello there, can anyone suggest why my debian box can send emails from the command line, but not form koha? i am getting 'failed' in the status column of the message_queue table
11:18 syed installing: sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04................ Warning: prerequisite String::CRC32 0 not found. '--TESTDB' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTPASS' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTUSER' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name.
11:19 syed Warning: Cannot install 0.04, don't know what it is.
11:23 syed any sugg...
11:26 magnuse syed: did you do "sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached 0.04" or "sudo cpan CGI::Session::Driver::memcached"? the last one is the right one
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11:28 magnuse sorry, gotta go
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11:36 syed magnuse: yes i did last one
11:37 kf syed: do you have valid email addresses for the patrons?
11:37 kf oh
11:37 kf mirbolt, sorry syed
11:37 kf mirbolt: invalid email addresses gave me a failed in the past
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11:39 syed magnuse: i installed all modules, all are Done perfectly ... but every module i'm getting the some message... '--TESTDB' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTPASS' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTUSER' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name.
11:41 oleonard Hi #koha
11:41 syed magnuse: can i run again.. perl Makefile.PL
11:42 syed i installed all modules, all are Done perfectly ... but every module i'm getting the some message... '--TESTDB' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTPASS' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. '--TESTUSER' is not a known MakeMaker parameter name.
11:42 syed can i run again.. perl Makefile.PL
11:48 kf I think you can run it again from the beginning
11:48 kf you will have to answer the questions again
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12:07 syed thanks magnus & kf: its PASS
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12:11 kf cool :)
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12:14 coryj Is it possible to have SIP work with login name and card number (or just login name)?
12:21 mirbolt kf: sorry i didn't see your response - my connection timed out or something. it seems that the to_address was null in the table, i updated the table manually and it sent the mail. i have no idea why that field was null though
12:22 kf it is sometimes null
12:22 kf that's normal for some mails
12:22 kf it gets the mail from the patron record in that case
12:22 kf my suggestion was to check the mail in your patron record
12:22 kf and the settings which mail should be used for the messages
12:23 kf syntax errors in the mail can cause it to be failed
12:23 mirbolt it happened for a few different patrons, but the setting for which address should be used might be the issue
12:24 mirbolt is there a sys pref for that?
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12:28 kf yes
12:28 kf I think it's something with auto
12:28 kf let me check
12:28 kf AutoEmailPrimaryAddress
12:29 kf it's used for all or almost all mails, not only for the accoutn mails as the syspref editor might indicate
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12:32 mirbolt ah i see, well i do for some reason have that set to alternate email address, so that is probably it.
12:32 mirbolt thanks for your help :)
12:33 syed you should set the following environment variables:   "export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" "export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib" ........... plz guide me how to set this variables
12:38 kf just copy those 2 lines to your command line
12:38 kf if you don't do it some scripts will give you error messages when you try to run them
12:40 kmkale Namaskar #koha
12:40 kf hi kmkale
12:40 kmkale Namaste kf :)
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12:42 druthb namaste, kmkale!
12:43 kmkale Namaste druthb :)
12:43 coryj Anyone on who is familiar with the SIP module?
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13:17 syed i have installed "sudo apache2ctl restart"........... i got error...    apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using for ServerName
13:17 syed plz guide me
13:18 oleonard syed: Are your Koha sites working anyway?
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14:05 syed oleonard: not now i'm still in configuration stage
14:05 oleonard syed: I'm not an expert, but I've often found that my sites work fine even when I get that error
14:06 syed i run this command.... sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml ..... found error: sudo: invalid option -- 'f'
14:07 syed what address u r using for test ur koha-site?
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14:10 syed oleonard: what address u r using for test ur koha-site?
14:10 oleonard syed: localhost:80 (opac) and localhost:8080 (staff client). But mine is just a test installation, so I don't have to worry about named virtualhosts
14:11 syed yes rightnow I'm also testing stage
14:12 syed no URL found
14:12 syed :(
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14:19 syed when i run "sudo -u ${koha} zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" ... found error...
14:19 syed sudo: invalid option -- 'f' usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -V usage: sudo -v [-AknS] [-p prompt] usage: sudo -l[l] [-AknS] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt] [-U username] [-u             username|#uid] [-g groupname|#gid] [command] usage: sudo [-AbEHknPS] [-C fd] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt] [-u             username|#uid] [-g groupname|#gid] [VAR=value] [-i
14:20 syed sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
14:20 oleonard syed: If "koha" is the user you don't need the curly brackets
14:20 syed any suggestion plz
14:21 syed yes "koha" is the user
14:21 oleonard sudo -u koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
14:26 syed thanks oleonard: its processing...
14:27 syed oleonard: it's still in processing stage....
14:28 syed did it takes some time for finish this process?
14:30 syed around 10 min. to go... it's hold on..  19:21:53-22/06 [server] Starting server zebrasrv pid=10694
14:30 kf alex_a: around?
14:31 alex_a kf: yep
14:31 kf marking your bug a duplicate
14:31 kf I patched that
14:31 alex_a ah ok
14:32 kf it's waiting for qa - bug 6305 :)
14:32 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , The serials are not working properly
14:32 wizzyrea syed: that process will run until you stop it
14:32 kf but there is another evil bug... that needs work. you can't create items atm
14:32 alex_a sorry kf, i didn't see a duplicate
14:32 syed how to stop that... Ctrl+C   or any other command
14:32 wizzyrea yep
14:33 wizzyrea but searches won't work
14:33 wizzyrea once you stop it
14:33 alex_a kf: atm ?
14:33 kf alex_a: it's not obvious from the bug report, perhaps I shoudl have splitted it into three bugs
14:33 kf at the moment - it's broken
14:34 syed wizzyrea: so how come i resolve the Searches
14:34 wizzyrea keep going in the instructions and daemonize it
14:34 syed so you mean... i can stop this process by myself
14:35 wizzyrea yep, it's the process that performs the searches
14:35 wizzyrea in production, most people daemonize it so it's always running
14:35 syed wizzyrea: thanks
14:35 wizzyrea np :)
14:37 alex_a kf: you mean can't create serial items ?
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14:47 coryj How difficult would it be to modify SIP to work with either card number OR user login?
14:49 rhcl_away atz_ knows a lot about SIP
14:49 rhcl_away is now known as rhcl
14:49 rhcl what do you mean by "user login"?
14:49 rhcl username?
14:51 rhcl Since you seem to be talking about the client end of a SIP connection, the client can do anything it wants with any field of information that SIP returns.
14:59 kf alex_a: yes, when you decide to create items when receiving -t he item is not created
15:00 alex_a arf
15:00 alex_a kf: the same in 3.4;x ?
15:00 kf I tried on master when I wrote the patches
15:00 kf not sure what the problem is - the other 2 were T:T
15:02 alex_a kf: the problem about editing subscription is on the both 3.4 and master
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15:19 coryj I guess I'm talking about the opac login user name.  Overdrive wants to authenticate users via SIP
15:19 coryj but it is only working for cardnumber at the moment
15:20 coryj but it is only working for cardnumber at the moment
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15:24 rhcl OK, I'm not an expert, but that configuration would still have to be done by Overdrive. The SIP interface will return a number of database fields, and Overdrive will have to execute the query, and parse the returns for the information it wants.
15:25 rhcl There's no configuration of SIP at the Koha (server) side. Now, this is all contingent on me knowing what I'm talking about. :)
15:25 wizzyrea i'm not sure that SIP returns the username
15:26 wizzyrea which in fact, koha would need to be programmed to do
15:26 rhcl So where OverDrive looks for the card number (our OD does exactly this now), it would have to look instead for username or whatever.
15:26 wizzyrea right, but koha would have to be sending it
15:27 rhcl well, if Koha simply supports the SIP interface (realizing there are good and bad implementations), I think a SIP query from the client end should be able to get any field that SIP supports.
15:27 wizzyrea so the real question is: does koha's sip support sending the username field.
15:28 rhcl I don't know whether Koha returns all those fields, but it seems to me that theoretically it should just support sip, and not do any custom configs.
15:28 wizzyrea i'm not sure, but I don't think it does
15:29 rhcl Yea, and I can construct a query if I can find my docs. There is a really good, simple Python script out on the net that is clear and easy to use. I may not be able to come up with it right away.
15:29 wizzyrea the original question was: how hard would it be to use usernames as well as cardnumbers
15:30 rhcl Yes, and again, I think it would be up to OD to request the info it wants, and do as it needs with that info.
15:31 rhcl I know my tech has that py script, but he's not in.
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15:55 coryj The problem right now is that it searches based on cardnumber.
15:55 coryj I looked at the code and it does the query based on card number only as far as I can tell.
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16:07 alex_a kf ?
16:07 wahanui kf is, like, cait or really, really sweet
16:07 * Oak waves
16:07 kf here :)
16:07 * alex_a just understood that kf and cait are the same
16:08 kf alex_a: I think the patch will be applied to 3.4 too - it's a bugfix
16:08 kf not sure this was your question
16:08 kf having a crazy day here
16:09 alex_a kf: no,hdl just said me you are cait \o/ ! but we were talking about this bug
16:13 kf oh
16:13 kf I am sorry...
16:13 * kf knows she confuses people
16:14 oleonard I would compare kf/cait to Superhero/Secret Identity, but both are super.
16:15 alex_a :)
16:16 alex_a kf: no pbm
16:16 * kf blushes
16:16 kf thx oleonard
16:16 alex_a I should have informed earlier
16:17 Oak good song.[…]4&feature=related
16:20 alex_a by all
16:20 Oak bye alex_a
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16:22 alex_away s/by/bye/ :)
16:22 alex_away ...
16:22 Oak :)
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16:38 wizzyrea pianohacker++
16:40 kf bye all
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16:42 oleonard wizzyrea: ?
16:43 wizzyrea he fixed something for me :) (yesterday, I just found out about it)
16:44 wizzyrea i feel like I'm losing my mind, there is no itemsloop defined in, but it's referenced in the template. Does it come from somewhere else?
16:45 wizzyrea i'm sorry if this is a dumb question
16:50 Oak no dumb questions here
16:50 Oak that's why i like being here
16:53 jwagner wizzyrea, it's from one of the C4 modules, can't remember which offhand but grep for itemsloop & you should find it
16:54 wizzyrea aha! that's useful, thanks. :)
16:58 wizzyrea hm looks like C4::Items. Will investigate that after lunch
16:58 wizzyrea jwagner++
16:59 jwagner wizzyrea, that's called from a BUNCH of different scripts.  I've run into it many times before :-(
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18:02 wizzyrea hmm
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18:12 cait hi #koha
18:20 jwagner hi cait
18:20 cait hi jwagner
18:24 wizzyrea hi cait :)
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21:37 bg rangi has landed in the US
21:39 Space_Librarian yay!
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21:59 talljoy laissez les bons temps rouler
22:02 rhcl ?
22:02 rhcl cause for celebration?
22:03 rhcl ah, rangi perhaps?
22:03 talljoy just saw above....that the ash cloud cleared for rangi to land in US, in time for ALA in New Orleans
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23:11 pianohacker hola
23:11 wahanui hi, pianohacker
23:14 Space_Librarian hey pianohacker
23:14 pianohacker hi spacelib
23:14 pianohacker how's it going?
23:15 Space_Librarian not too badly, how's your summer hols treating you?
23:20 druthb hi pianohacker and Space_Librarian
23:21 pianohacker Space_Librarian: pretty well, actually. Loving our rock band setup; we now have two guitars, pro drums and pro keys
23:21 pianohacker druthb: hola ruth
23:21 Space_Librarian hey Ruth!
23:21 eythian wahanui: moo is <reply>How appropriate, you fight like a cow.
23:21 wahanui OK, eythian.
23:21 Space_Librarian pianohacker: nice!
23:22 eythian moo?
23:22 wahanui How appropriate, you fight like a cow.
23:22 Space_Librarian I'm not even going to ask.
23:22 eythian that's because you've never played Secret of Monkey Island.
23:22 Space_Librarian vaguely and many, many moons ago.
23:28 eythian wahanui: z39.50 is the ANSI standard of the beast.
23:28 wahanui OK, eythian.
23:31 * druthb grumbles.
23:31 * Space_Librarian hands druthb cookies
23:31 * druthb is editing[…]n_Squeeze_via_GIT , but cannot enter categories for it, for some reason.
23:31 eythian wahanui: cookies is <reply>Cookies are delicious delicacies
23:31 wahanui OK, eythian.
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23:32 druthb wahanui: eythian?
23:32 wahanui i heard eythian was in NZ. ;) or a good influence
23:32 eythian both are true
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