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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5714 follow up removing the debugging message <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]befc21fa36caa340f> |
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jenkins_koha |
Chris Cormack: Bug 5714 follow up removing the debugging message |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5714 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Unescaped ampersands in OPAC facets |
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rangi |
hi druthb and hdl |
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hdl |
hi rangi |
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druthb |
hi, rangi! :D |
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rangi |
http://www.osslabs.biz/news/br[…]raries-adopt-koha |
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rangi |
pretty cool |
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rangi |
http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/w[…]-June/001431.html |
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* rangi |
shows off |
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druthb |
congrats, rangi! :) |
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rangi |
we only got 2/10 in the networking round :) |
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rangi |
hey bgallagher |
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bgallagher |
hey |
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hdl |
hi bgallagher |
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bgallagher |
hi |
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wahanui |
privet, bgallagher |
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rangi |
@quote random |
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huginn |
rangi: Quote #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:00 PM, November 05, 2009) |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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Oak |
your laptop problem... fixed? |
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cait |
yep :) |
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Oak |
did it yourself? |
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cait |
yep :) |
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Oak |
without fresh install? |
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cait |
when I was about to give up I found another manual and that worked |
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* Oak |
hugs cait |
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cait |
it seems the other things I found before missed a chroot /dev |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
so I am ready to claim a bug now |
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Oak |
that's how we do it!!! we don't re-install. we fix. |
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Oak |
good |
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Oak |
cait++ |
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cait |
hehe thx |
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cait |
I knew it was possible to fix it- because it has been done 2 times before. the question was only how |
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Oak |
sorry about the 'you can cry now' comment by me :| |
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cait |
that's ok :) |
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Oak |
okay |
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cait |
it made me laugh |
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Oak |
oh good |
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Oak |
that helps |
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cait |
so, want to claim a bug too? |
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cait |
we still have a lot to choose from |
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Oak |
me? |
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wahanui |
you are Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. |
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Oak |
whoa how does he know that |
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* Oak |
goes to check xchat settings |
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cait |
wahanui does know a lot of things |
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wahanui |
cait: what? |
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cait |
cait? |
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wahanui |
you are kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies |
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cait |
Oak: he learns from what people tell him |
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Oak |
hmm... i see. weird. |
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cait |
@wunder Reutlingen |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 16.6�C (8:10 AM CEST on June 15, 2011). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 28.82 in 975.8 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
I think you have told him :) |
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Oak |
i guess :) or told someone and he was listening |
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magnus_away is now known as magnuse |
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cait |
god morgen magnuse! :) |
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magnuse |
guten morgen cait |
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magnuse |
...and #koha |
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Oak |
:] |
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magnuse |
hiya Oak |
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Oak |
Heya magnuse :) |
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alex_away is now known as alex_a |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a |
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cait |
hi alex_a :) |
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cait |
can someone change the motd? |
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cait |
to have the new date for the next meeting and a hint about sign-off-day? |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]06-15#Claim_a_bug.21 |
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Oak |
Bonjour alex_a |
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magnuse |
slef or rangi, perhaps? |
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cait |
summoning didn't work :) |
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magnuse |
nope |
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oakivil |
morning #koha |
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Oak |
hello oakivil |
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alex_a |
hi magnuse cait Oak and all :) |
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Oak |
:) |
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magnuse |
moi oakivil |
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reiveune |
hello |
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Oak |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J[…]011_lunar_eclipse |
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Oak |
hello reiveune |
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cait |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
hi cait, Oak |
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* magnuse |
will not be able to see the lunar eclipse, because it will be below the horizon... :-( |
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cait |
patches waiting for sign off: 68 - magnuse++ |
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magnuse |
another one bites the dust... |
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oakivil |
so you guys/gals are all working for some company that pays for your development effort? |
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christophe_c |
hello all |
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cait |
hi christophe_c |
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cait |
oakivil: I think most of us do |
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magnuse |
i guess the customers are doing the paying... |
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magnuse |
;-) |
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oakivil |
the December lunar eclipse hits my birthday! |
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oakivil |
they always do |
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oakivil |
and they are so pissed about that |
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cait |
hm, I think they are ok paying as long as they get something for it |
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cait |
hm what was the trick to reload javascript? |
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cait |
f5 + ? |
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matts_away is now known as matts |
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magnuse |
part of free software is giving something back - to me paying a company so someone can do stuff like sign off patches on your behalf looks like one way to give back |
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eythian |
cait: ctrl-f5 |
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magnuse |
cait: ctrl+shift+r |
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magnuse |
or shift+reload |
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cait |
ok thx :) |
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magnuse |
eythian, just fyi i'm testing bug 6199 now |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items |
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julian |
hello #koha |
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eythian |
sweet |
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cait |
... the one I failed on |
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cait |
not sure what to hope - that it works for magnuse or that he sees the same things I did :) |
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Oak |
no failed... just one more way how *not* to fix it |
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cait |
Oak: you remind me of yoda today |
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eythian |
cait: I'm hoping that it works for him ;) |
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Oak |
umm, good? :) |
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cait |
yeah |
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Oak |
:) |
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eythian |
damnit, I spend so much time using vim, I can't use a regular editor without filling it with jjjjkkk type things. |
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Oak |
hehe |
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eythian |
Irma: I'm going to spend another hour or so sketching out more workshop plans. |
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cait |
patches waiting for sign off: 67 |
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magnuse |
yay |
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cait |
hm, can't reproduce bug 6479 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6479 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, NEW , Encoding problem in "recievedlist" when the numbering formula contains utf-8 characters |
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cait |
ah, checked wrong screen, now I see it |
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Oak |
:) |
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rangi |
66 |
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magnuse |
yay |
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Oak |
*++ |
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cait |
incorrect |
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cait |
65 |
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cait |
:) |
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Oak |
:] |
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cait |
rangi++ |
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magnuse |
eythian, cait: i think i see a minor problem with the patch for bug 6199: the pod says the option is -dedupbarcodes but GetOptions is looking for dedupbarcode without the s: 'dedupbarcode' => \$dedup_barcode, |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items |
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cait |
aha! |
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eythian |
cait: however, the command line you pasted into the bug was correct |
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cait |
hm looking at my pastes on the patch it seems i tested without s :( |
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cait |
yeah |
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magnuse |
i'll test without the s now... |
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eythian |
http://www.mosc.my/index.php <-- the front page is all about Microsoft Azure, and Koha. I'm not quite sure how I feel about that :) |
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cait |
mr. robin sheat |
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cait |
:) |
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magnuse |
eythian: looks like a strange combo... |
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eythian |
yeah. That happens a lot in Asian/Pacific places. In the Solomon Islands I was referred to formally as "Mr. Robin" |
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rangi |
magnuse: its kinda the difference between open source and free software |
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eythian |
magnuse: it is. I guess it's microsoft's "we're all happy and friendly with open source (ignore the fact we're suing people for using it too)" kick. |
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rangi |
you wont see microsoft at free software conferences, but yeah they are happy to try to subvert the open source ones |
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eythian |
alright, another couple of hours of workshop planned out. Time to go home. |
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cait |
have a nice evening mr robin |
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eythian |
:P |
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eythian |
:) |
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Oak |
take care mr. robin |
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eythian |
bye |
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eythian |
you're all bad people! ;) |
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Oak |
hehe, you are a jolly good fellow mr. robin |
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cait |
now he hurt my feelings... |
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cait |
:P |
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cait |
germs? |
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Oak |
who? mr. robin? |
| 08:03 |
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cait |
only checking |
| 08:03 |
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cait |
yeah, mr robins comment was not nice |
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Oak |
hmm |
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cait |
;) |
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cait |
it's ok, back to signing off patches! |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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Oak |
heya Brooke :) |
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cait |
hi Brooke |
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Brooke |
tag |
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magnuse |
63 |
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magnuse |
kia ora Brooke |
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rangi |
3 more to get it to change to orange |
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Brooke |
kiiiiia orrrraaaa |
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Brooke |
nice rangi |
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* rangi |
marks one works for me |
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* Brooke |
thinks rangi needs a virtual coup device. |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
coup device? |
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cait |
almost done with my bug |
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magnuse |
cait: sadly i got the same results as you for bug 6199... |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items |
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rangi |
have to fail qa it, if 2 people get the same thats good enough for a fail qa |
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rangi |
61 |
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cait |
magnuse: now I feel less crazy, but robinwill not be happy |
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Oak |
mr robin |
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cait |
right g |
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cait |
Oak: what about you? want to sign-off on something? :) |
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Oak |
I don't know how to :-| |
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magnuse |
Oak: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
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cait |
magnuse++ |
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cait |
graet test report |
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cait |
we can help you :) |
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magnuse |
thanks cait :-) |
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Brooke |
arright good people "You test it." ain't good enough. :P |
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* Oak |
reading http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
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cait |
Oak: need help? |
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Oak |
don't want to interrupt your work. my system has a relatively new Slackware 13.37 install. First I need to install Koha... then I can do anything :-| |
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cait |
ohok |
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cait |
yes, a koha for testing things is a requirement :) |
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oakivil |
there are lots of different companies here developing koha |
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oakivil |
how much of the work the companies do are actuially shared as open source? |
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rangi |
all of it |
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oakivil |
there must be interest to have parts as open source |
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oakivil |
or certain modules as such |
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rangi |
luckily the license doesnt allow that |
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oakivil |
i mean closed source |
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oakivil |
not even for separate modules? |
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rangi |
no |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
is k007 |
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Brooke |
closed source, unlike good intentions, is actually a good chunk of pavers on the road to hell. |
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oakivil |
ill write that up :D |
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Oak |
cait, well, I definitely want to learn this... may be not today, but I will prepare myself for next sign-off day, as in an hour I have to leave for my class, after that I need to prepare a presentation and email to my teacher... |
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cait |
oakivil: we share all we do too - but we do only small things so far |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
hmm |
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rangi |
friends dont let friends use proprietary software |
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magnuse |
yay |
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oakivil |
yay! |
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rangi |
its unethical, wrong and evil |
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cait |
Oak: that's ok :) you know where to find us if you have questions |
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oakivil |
the way i have observed is that i should recommend libraries using koha to have a separate section of personell to maintain koha installations |
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* rangi |
is less an open source proponent and more a free software proponent |
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oakivil |
the migration from version to version |
| 09:00 |
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Oak |
yes, and I'll definitely ask for help cait |
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magnuse |
part of what's good about koha is you can swith vendors without switching ILS. that only works as long as the whole system is free software |
| 09:00 |
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magnuse |
closed source modules = vendor lock in |
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oakivil |
magnus are you the one-man ils company we have been talking about here in Finland? |
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Brooke |
oakivil: that's ideal. Some do not have that luxury, so bear that in mind. |
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oakivil |
yeah we need a sufficient library base to fund several people |
| 09:01 |
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rangi |
oakivil: or they could just pay a support company, instead of paying license fees :) |
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oakivil |
we cant let the maintenance of our ils on one person |
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magnuse |
oakivil, probably, i'm magnus enger of libriotech ;-) |
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* Brooke |
points out that one could do worse than have Magnus as their "one man". |
| 09:01 |
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oakivil |
yes that is one option |
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oakivil |
i know that magnus |
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oakivil |
:D |
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rangi |
theres nothing different in paying for support for free software or proprietary |
| 09:01 |
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rangi |
well there is |
| 09:01 |
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oakivil |
well its good to make aquintances |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
with free software you actually do get support |
| 09:02 |
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oakivil |
yesh, no vendor lock in |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
proprietary you pay |
| 09:02 |
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oakivil |
that is the problem here in finland too |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
and get nothing |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
and get told to wait for the next version |
| 09:02 |
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oakivil |
support has been canceled for our current systems |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
which still doesnt fix your bug |
| 09:02 |
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Brooke |
doh |
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Brooke |
orphaned products ftl |
| 09:03 |
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rangi |
http://mako.cc/writing/hill-wh[…]_isnt_better.html <-- a very good read |
| 09:04 |
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magnuse |
oakivil, which system? |
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oakivil |
PallasPro |
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rangi |
the other thing with koha, you dont need to be on site to support it |
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oakivil |
I have been tinkering with their databases to try to map the relevant data for migration to okha and evergreen |
| 09:05 |
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* rangi |
has supported installs in europe from nz |
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* Brooke |
shivers. |
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Brooke |
time difference blech! |
| 09:06 |
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rangi |
actually works well |
| 09:06 |
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Brooke |
though I suppose if you keep it humming |
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Brooke |
not so bad |
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cait |
one failed qa |
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rangi |
report an issue, go to to sleep, and its fixed when you wake up |
| 09:06 |
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Brooke |
wot's that second bit? |
| 09:07 |
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rangi |
course, koha doesnt actually break much anyway :) |
| 09:07 |
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Brooke |
my server went out twice |
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cait |
no, koha is very stable |
| 09:07 |
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rangi |
still the one outage at HLT, in 11 years |
| 09:07 |
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Brooke |
once when the roomate yanked the plug to charge his mobile |
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Brooke |
and once when the power supply failed |
| 09:07 |
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Brooke |
neither were a Koha issue ;) |
| 09:07 |
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rangi |
and that was when the aircon guy dropped it on the floor |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
oh I remember that |
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rangi |
ive yet to see software that can stop that |
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Brooke |
clearly he didn't read the "Don't Mess WIth A Timelord" warning. |
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oakivil |
whats the deal with evergreen? |
| 09:09 |
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oakivil |
apart from the fact that I cannot run it in our intranet |
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rangi |
you are better off asking that in #evergreen, but its free software too |
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oakivil |
you guys must have a opinion |
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oakivil |
:D |
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rangi |
not a qualified one |
| 09:10 |
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Brooke |
my opinion is that evergreen or koha = much much better than most other crap |
| 09:10 |
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magnuse |
+1 |
| 09:10 |
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rangi |
only someone who has installed/developed/used it could give you a decent opinion on evergreen |
| 09:10 |
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rangi |
but yeah, its free software so its already better than proprietary, not matter if it punches you in the face :-) |
| 09:10 |
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cait |
I always wanted to play with it... but koha keeps me busy enough :) |
| 09:10 |
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magnuse |
yay, it's orange! http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl |
| 09:10 |
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Brooke |
the Koha lads have been chippin' away at me "X proprietary system does a better job at Y" list. |
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rangi |
yay! |
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* Brooke |
cheers. |
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cait |
another 10 to my personal goal for today |
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cait |
I want to see a five or four there |
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rangi |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]66/in/photostream |
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cait |
50 / 49... |
| 09:11 |
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cait |
should be more precise |
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Brooke |
I love how the cartoon Doctor has the floppy hair. |
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magnuse |
rangi: when is the next colour change again? |
| 09:12 |
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oakivil |
what licence does koha run under? |
| 09:12 |
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rangi |
gplv2 or later |
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rangi |
magnuse: 30 |
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rangi |
to go green |
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Brooke |
there was much talk about shifting it to 3. |
| 09:13 |
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rangi |
well really agpl3 |
| 09:13 |
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rangi |
its 3 now if anyway wants it to be, (the or later makes that easy) |
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rangi |
anyway = anyone |
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rangi |
if we ever get a contribution from a proprietary vendor |
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rangi |
i wouldnt accept it, unless it was gpl3 |
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rangi |
to protect from their stupid patents |
| 09:16 |
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oakivil |
so how many active developers you have? |
| 09:16 |
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Brooke |
lots |
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oakivil |
40 nicks hanging around |
| 09:16 |
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Brooke |
yeah, but not a dev |
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oakivil |
contributions from over 100 persons |
| 09:16 |
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oakivil |
yeah |
| 09:16 |
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Brooke |
so can't go by nick |
| 09:16 |
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cait |
last release had 63 iirc |
| 09:16 |
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cait |
speaking about 3.4 |
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oakivil |
thats a lot |
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cait |
and almost 150 total now |
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rangi |
65 diff people in 2011 |
| 09:18 |
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rangi |
144 in total |
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cait |
66 |
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cait |
hm |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
you can find some statistics here: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/?s=3.4&x=0&y=0 :) |
| 09:18 |
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rangi |
thats a weird url |
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rangi |
ahh its a search |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
I had searched for the 3.4 post to verfiy my numbers |
| 09:21 |
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magnuse |
oakivil, there are some stats here too: https://www.ohloh.net/p/koha |
| 09:21 |
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cait |
and on git.koha-community.org |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
ah,it's missing 3.4 |
| 09:22 |
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magnuse |
anyone still got firefox 3.5 or thereabouts hanging around? looks like it's needed to test bug 6291 |
| 09:22 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6291 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cart printing truncated in Firefox |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
no :( |
| 09:23 |
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cait |
ah nice, one wrong status for bug 6280 |
| 09:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6280 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Invalid SQL being passed in circulation checkout |
| 09:23 |
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cait |
was already signed-off |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 09:26 |
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magnuse |
59 |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
yay |
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cait |
and still orange |
| 09:26 |
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rangi |
yeah it wont go green until 30 |
| 09:26 |
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rangi |
hang on |
| 09:26 |
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rangi |
ill make it go yellow at 50 |
| 09:28 |
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rangi |
right, its gonna go yellow at 50 |
| 09:29 |
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magnuse |
cool |
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magnuse |
woohoo i rememberd to swith to english when a patch affecting templates looked like it didn't do anything ;-) |
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rangi |
:) |
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cait |
cool :) |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
easy to forget that |
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Oak |
my heroes! |
| 09:37 |
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* cait |
stops counting how many times she typed git bsz instead of git bz today |
| 09:38 |
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Brooke |
smells like an alias to me :P |
| 09:39 |
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oakivil |
Kuitenkin Kohan “GNU General Public License†(gplv2) pakottaa kaikki yhtiöt kehittämään samaa tuotetta ilman mahdollisuutta sotkea sekaan lisensoituja ohjelmistokomponentteja. |
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oakivil |
sorry copyastefailure |
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oakivil |
have you considered a central authorities server? |
| 09:43 |
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oakivil |
for ex Finland has a service for checking authorities |
| 09:43 |
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cait |
we basically have one |
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rangi |
library authorities? or authentication? |
| 09:44 |
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cait |
GKD, SWD and PND databases |
| 09:44 |
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oakivil |
i mean the author, |
| 09:44 |
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cait |
I am talking about authorities :) |
| 09:44 |
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oakivil |
authorized author names |
| 09:44 |
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oakivil |
for ex |
| 09:44 |
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cait |
we have one in our union catalog and libraries catalog there |
| 09:44 |
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cait |
we import all linked and used authorities into koha nightly |
| 09:46 |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 09:47 |
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cait |
it's a different model, not really a koha feature |
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cait |
union catalog is not using koha, different software |
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oakivil |
ok but it does nightly updates to koha so |
| 09:48 |
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oakivil |
anyway its doable |
| 09:48 |
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oakivil |
but its our problem here then |
| 09:49 |
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oakivil |
we can do that connection to our national authorities catalog no sweat |
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cait |
we use the bulkauthimport command line script and that seems to work well |
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oakivil |
ok |
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cait |
ah, to be correct, I think it changed to bulkmarcimport |
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cait |
which can also do authorities now |
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magnuse |
hm, unsure about bug 6483 - it works beautifully, but i'm not sure about how it looks and where things are placed... |
| 09:56 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search |
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Oak |
later guys, time for class |
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cait |
have fun Oak :) |
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druthb |
o/ |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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magnuse |
o/ |
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magnuse |
�/ |
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Brooke |
hehehee |
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* magnuse |
looks at Brooke with concern |
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druthb |
Hi, Magnus. :) |
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Brooke |
magnus: the laugh was for the wave |
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cait |
and all plz remember: today is global sign off day - claim a bug! :) |
| 10:36 |
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magnuse |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]06-15#Claim_a_bug.21 |
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cait |
ah magnuse,now you claimed 2! :) |
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magnuse |
yeah, they are related |
| 10:45 |
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magnuse |
so it makes sense to look at them together, i think |
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cait |
I agree, only teasing |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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magnuse |
58 |
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cait |
whohoo |
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* cait |
cait_afk |
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cait |
gonna meet with my mum, will be back a little later |
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magnuse |
57 |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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Brooke |
Mums > Koha |
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cait |
back |
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* magnus_lunch |
too |
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oleonard |
How's the signing off going? |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
I think we are making progress |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
check the wiki page :) |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]06-15#Claim_a_bug.21 |
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cait |
and hi oleonard |
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cait |
20 done |
| 12:49 |
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oleonard |
Lots of tough ones on that list. |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
but a comment or asing for a test plan is also good |
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cait |
Claim a bug! :) |
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magnuse |
oleonard: a few more pairs of eyes on bug 6483 feels appropriate... ;-) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search |
| 12:53 |
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magnuse |
56 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl |
| 12:53 |
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oleonard |
Yeah, I've got that on my list magnuse |
| 12:53 |
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oleonard |
I have a patch attached to Bug 5917 that could use a sign-off |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5917 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Switch Koha to use Template::Toolkit |
| 12:54 |
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oleonard |
Some random T:T fixes. |
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* oleonard |
wonders if he's still here |
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oleonard |
Oh good. Connection dropped out there for a minute. |
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cait |
velcro? :) |
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oleonard |
I think a bad update to a network driver |
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oleonard |
I was fighting with it all day yesterday |
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cait |
you know... could be worse |
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* cait |
won the battle with the blinking grub> line |
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oleonard |
Moving my chat session to the laptop with the good connection |
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cait |
when we sign off another six... we will get yellow! |
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cait |
new color for does not apply? |
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oakivil |
hmm is koha z39.50 configured to use port 210 as outbound? |
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oakivil |
by default |
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cait |
used silver |
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cait |
no |
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cait |
you can configure the port |
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oakivil |
LOC recommends 210 |
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cait |
administration > z39.50 targets |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
koha |
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cait |
not sure |
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sekjal |
hey, all, I can't stay long (meetings), but I wanted to thank everyone working on the signoffs today. I'll try to make sure those are pushed through QA as quickly as I can |
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cait |
sorry, thought about z39.50 download |
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cait |
but I think you should be able to configure that too |
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oakivil |
well using z39.50 |
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cait |
sekjal++ :) |
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oakivil |
koha tries to read the LOC catalog |
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cait |
oakivil: sorry, got confused |
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cait |
you want to download a record from an external source? |
| 13:17 |
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oakivil |
yes |
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cait |
or you want your koha installation to act as z39.50 server? |
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cait |
ok |
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oakivil |
atleast the core to modify for our lib needs |
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oakivil |
download from external server |
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cait |
210 might be recommended, but in my experience a lot of different ports are used |
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oakivil |
so i can set it up from admin controls |
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cait |
you can configure the used port for each target, when you are behind a firewall you might need to change something there so that it works |
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magnuse |
oakivil, you configure it on a per-server basis in Administration � Z39.50 Servers |
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oakivil |
yeah |
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oakivil |
now i need to open all those ports on my firewall |
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oakivil |
LOC uses 7090 |
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cait |
you can only open it for that server perhaps? |
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oakivil |
yes outbound |
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oakivil |
but what ithe inbound address |
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magnuse |
when koha is used as a z39.50 server? |
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magnuse |
you configure that when you run "perl Makefile.PL" |
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magnuse |
9998 or 9999 is suggested as the default, i think |
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oakivil |
i chose default for everything |
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oakivil |
damn |
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magnuse |
54 |
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cait |
yay |
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oakivil |
well well Z39.50 works like a charm :D |
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cait |
:) |
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oakivil |
is k007 |
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cait |
oleonard: could you take a look at 6133 later? |
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cait |
k007? |
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cait |
oleonard: I looked at it during hackfest in marseille, but was not sure if it's a good idea or not |
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cait |
53 |
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cait |
3 more until yellow! |
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oakivil |
k007 as good! |
| 13:42 |
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oakivil |
its kewl |
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oakivil |
no more no less |
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magnuse |
bug 6133 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6133 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authorised values administration, warn for modifs |
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ah k007 |
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cait |
hm, not it gets hard to claimone |
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oleonard |
cait: What was the question about bug 6133? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6133 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authorised values administration, warn for modifs |
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cait |
what do you think about adding that warn? |
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magnuse |
52 |
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oleonard |
The patch doesn't apply for me |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
loooking at it - needs reformatting |
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cait |
probably pre TT |
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oleonard |
Hi mcleary |
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mcleary |
Good day everyone. I am looking for a little help on exporting MARC records from winnebago spectrum to Koha. I have been able to export records and get them into Koha, but i am having issues with the barcodes |
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mcleary |
The exports are only showing the shortened barcode. We would like to preserve the barcodes into the new system. Does anyone know how, or where to get an materials list with the full barcode? |
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cait |
sorry, I don't know winnebago |
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cait |
perhaps write to the list - more people reading there |
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oleonard |
mcleary: So the export from winnebago has the incomplete barcode? |
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wizzyrea |
ah mcleary let me ask some people |
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cait |
hi wizzyrea :) |
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cait |
want to claim a bug? ;) |
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mcleary |
correct. the exports are only showing between 5 and 6 digits of the 14 characters |
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wizzyrea |
what's the link for the query to see |
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talljoy |
mcleary: I'd be interested in this also. I may be doing a winnebago export soon. |
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mcleary |
when I run a barcode label print job, the full barcode is listed. It is not listed on any of the reports though |
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wizzyrea |
the extra digits are checksums + prefixes |
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wizzyrea |
the checksums can probably be calculated |
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wizzyrea |
unfortunately, our previous vendor did that manipulation for us when we had that problem |
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wizzyrea |
so we don't know what they did |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
but I know it *can* be reverse engineered |
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mcleary |
I have no done any direct queries on Winnebego. I am not sure how. |
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wizzyrea |
mcleary: that was all for you |
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mcleary |
I was looking to do some brute force on the data files themselves, but have yet to find a reliable method of reverse engineering |
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mcleary |
Does anyone know the database type of spectrum. I keep circling back to either dbase or foxpro, but have not had much luck |
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wizzyrea |
I think it's proprietary :( |
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wizzyrea |
mcleary: we had that exact problem with one of our libraries |
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wizzyrea |
my coworker is looking something up quickly |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.den4b.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=930 |
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mcleary |
wonderful. any help I can get I am grateful for. |
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wizzyrea |
http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]te-checksum-digit |
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wizzyrea |
it looks like if you know the format of the barcode you can probably locate the checkdigit computing algorithm |
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wizzyrea |
1. extract barcodes. 2. apply prefixes. 3. run algorithm. 4. recreate final barcode |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.morovia.com/educati[…]ility/upc-ean.asp |
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wizzyrea |
might help you as well |
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wizzyrea |
if you know the symbology |
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oleonard |
proprietary-- |
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mcleary |
most of this is completely alien to me. I am a systems administrator assisting with the migration of for different ILS systems into one cooperative system |
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wizzyrea |
sounds familiar :) |
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mcleary |
Once I get the Winnebego going, I still have 3 other to figure out |
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wizzyrea |
which? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... which is helpful too |
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wizzyrea |
forget which |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot which |
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wizzyrea |
which is <reply> |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.morovia.com/bulk-ch[…]ulation/index.php |
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wizzyrea |
in case you missed that link at the top of the page |
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wizzyrea |
it's a bulk check digit calculator |
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mcleary |
I believe that one of them is the same as the spectrum just a different version. infocenter is also one |
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wizzyrea |
anyway, hope that helps |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
hm, winnebago seems to use Code 39 (possibly) so this calculator might be better: |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.dlsoft.com/services/CheckCalc/ |
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wizzyrea |
and if you're super nerdy, here are the calc methods for most barcodes: http://www4.infoprintsolutions[…]g/ib6p8mst334.htm |
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wizzyrea |
and a video! |
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wahanui |
a video is probably probably from rangi's hill |
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wizzyrea |
http://idautomation.blogspot.c[…]mod-43-check.html |
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wizzyrea |
forget a video |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot video |
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* oleonard |
would hate to see wizzyrea's memory-editing power used on himself |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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Agent_Dani |
Are you sure it hasn't already been used on you? |
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oleonard |
No, I'm sure I would remember... Uh oh. |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: forget everything dumb wizzyrea has ever done |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
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cait |
not much to forget then :) |
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wizzyrea |
ha |
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wizzyrea |
oy |
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oleonard |
mybrainsql returned an empty set |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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magnuse |
50 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl - it's yellow! - woohoo |
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cait |
YELLOOOOOW! |
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wizzyrea |
magnuse: whats the link to the query to get the bugs awaiting sign off? |
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* wizzyrea |
is so lazy |
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oleonard |
They've got it on the wiki now for easy reference |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
lots of useful stuff on the global sign off day page |
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cait |
magnuse++ |
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oleonard |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]f_day,_2011-06-15 |
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magnuse |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g_id&list_id=7042 |
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wizzyrea |
global sign off day is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]f_day,_2011-06-15 |
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wizzyrea |
ty everybody |
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wizzyrea |
we oughta just do it every month |
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cait |
yep |
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magnuse |
yeah, if people are willing to take the time... |
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magnuse |
biblibre are setting aside half a day every other week! |
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paul_p |
@magnus++ |
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huginn |
paul_p: downloading the Perl source |
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paul_p |
magnuse++ |
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paul_p |
cait++ |
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cait |
hi paul_p |
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paul_p |
(for signing things, of marking doesn't apply or failed QA) |
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paul_p |
hi paul_p & cait |
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paul_p |
magnuse? |
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wahanui |
i heard magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
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paul_p |
paul_p? |
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wahanui |
i guess paul_p is the bot |
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paul_p |
wahanui, forget paul_p |
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wahanui |
paul_p: I forgot paul_p |
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magnuse |
huh? |
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* paul_p |
querying wahanui to understand why he says "dl the perl source" ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
because you said @magnuse |
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wizzyrea |
is why |
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wizzyrea |
hi atz :) |
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magnuse |
paul_p: maybe biblibre can sign off on the CAS stuff? that's 3 bugs right there... |
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cait |
hope we can get the numbers down more |
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cait |
next goal: 45 |
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cait |
there is a lot of unimarc stuff too |
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magnuse |
we can do it! (but i have to go make dinner soon ;-) |
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cait |
I tried the plugins (have loaded UNIMARC framework) - but they needed rebasing |
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cait |
my guest will arrive soon |
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magnuse |
nengard and wizzyrea: i challenge you to look at bug 6483 and give an opinion (there are screenshots ;-) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search |
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magnuse |
it has quite a big impact on how the detail page in the opac looks... |
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nengard |
magnuse i would recommend that the back button be towards the top (and at the bottom if we want it in two places ... but it should be at thet op |
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nengard |
at the top |
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magnuse |
at the top of what? |
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nengard |
of the page |
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nengard |
above the bib detail |
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nengard |
if the bib had 30 items you'll never see that button :) |
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nengard |
most patrons won't scroll that far to see it |
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wizzyrea |
I like the idea, did he fix the deal with the ugly url? |
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nengard |
the pagination and the results on the bib detail can be at the bottom since that takes up a lot of space |
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magnuse |
ugly urls are gone! |
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nengard |
woo hoo |
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wizzyrea |
^^ agree with what she says |
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cait |
I like it at the top because it will not move around |
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wizzyrea |
I think prev/next should be at top and bottom |
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cait |
so you don't have to move the mouse to page through |
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wizzyrea |
or just top, and pagination at the bottom |
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wizzyrea |
yes, that is also a good point, cait |
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wizzyrea |
they should be in a static location |
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wizzyrea |
that never moves as you page through |
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wizzyrea |
nothing more annoying than a hopping next button |
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magnuse |
that's why i would like to have it in the right hand column, in a grey box... |
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* oleonard |
tries to find an example of how another system does it, finds a system using frames >:P |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: That's why I thought having it in the sidebar would be good |
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magnuse |
yeah, let's use frames! that is soooo coool! |
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oleonard |
http://catalog.columbuslibrary.org/?q=blue |
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magnuse |
s/right hand column/sidebar/ |
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nengard |
oh dear - do not copy aquabrowser |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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* cait |
looks at magnuse |
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* magnuse |
hides |
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cait |
are you ok? |
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oleonard |
Anyone know any other systems that have this feature to see how they do it? |
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magnuse |
need a break soon, i think ;-) |
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oleonard |
Worldcat has a "return to search" link but not back and next links |
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cait |
I really like the idea - I was asked about those buttons |
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oleonard |
Not that big of a win to find that Horizon doesn't do it. |
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nengard |
I don't know of any others with the next and previous on the detailed display |
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nengard |
but i do like the way worldcat does next and previous on the search results |
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nengard |
it's clean |
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nengard |
and their back to results link is clean as well |
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nengard |
easy to find and not in your face |
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nengard |
i like |
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cait |
oleonard: depends on the horizon you look at |
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cait |
https://webpac4.bsz-bw.de/WP.fw.html |
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cait |
and yes, it's using frames |
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magnuse |
evergreen: http://75.101.133.94/opac/en-U[…]ue&ft=&l=1&d=0&f= has "Start � � End" (at least sometimes...) |
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magnuse |
where � and � are back and forward, respectively |
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magnuse |
the developer for the paging is really responsive to wishes, so it would be really good if "we, the community" could give him some clear wishes for where we want things placed |
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magnuse |
it seems a shame to leave him hanging... |
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magnuse |
can we agree on something? |
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magnuse |
put everything in a box in the sidebar? |
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cait |
I like a static position always visible - to above or beside the record |
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magnuse |
+1 |
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cait |
and perhaps we can use symbols? |
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cait |
like arrow |
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cait |
s |
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magnuse |
that seemed to be the consensus, rather than having it below the items |
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rhcl_away |
http://catalog.columbuslibrary.org/?q=blue <-- interesting thingie on the left side |
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magnuse |
and the list of "neighbours" pops up when you click on "..." so having that above the items/record would be weird |
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magnuse |
which leaves the sidebar, in my opinion |
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magnuse |
rhcl_away: aqua browser thingy, i think? |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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cait |
becaues for one more time I see how nice looking koha's opac is |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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wizzyrea |
sidebar++ |
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wizzyrea |
that's fine by me |
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wizzyrea |
as long as they don't move |
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wizzyrea |
page to page |
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wizzyrea |
afk |
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magnuse |
ok, unless i hear objections within 20 seconds i will recommend the sidebar in a comment on the bug ;-) |
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magnuse |
yeah, the "not move" point is an important one |
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rhcl_away |
the relationships graph |
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cait |
hm the plac ehold links might move things around a little |
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cait |
because we hide that sometimes |
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oleonard |
magnuse: How will your recommendation differ from the current state of it? |
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nengard |
I actually like the top left as a place for the back to results link |
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nengard |
it's where i always look for something going 'back' |
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nengard |
magnuse i did disagree .... |
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nengard |
[11:06] <nengard> I actually like the top left as a place for the back to results link |
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nengard |
[11:06] <nengard> it's where i always look for something going 'back' |
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nengard |
but if i'm in the minority then that's fine |
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magnuse |
oleonard, well i sort of said "let's have more people telling what they want/like" |
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magnuse |
and i don't want him to have to wait indefinetly for opinions |
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magnuse |
so i thought i'd say "we talked about it on irc and concluded that..." |
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magnuse |
nengard: yeah, noted. wanna comment on the bug? |
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nengard |
yeah i will |
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magnuse |
cool |
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magnuse |
if y'all do that i'll refrain, i just want to move this along... |
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oleonard |
nengard: What about having it at the top of the sidebar rather than in the middle? |
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nengard |
then it's on the right, not the left of the screen - and if you look at all browsers the back button in the browser is in the top left and so that's where most people look for a way to go 'back' to something |
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nengard |
that's my logic |
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wizzyrea |
it's the same on the iPhone interface (but not on android): back is always at top left |
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wizzyrea |
android gives a handy button that is always there to go back |
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magnuse |
actually there is a separate bug that introduces just a "back to search" button |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
The trouble with using the "back" convention is that we're talking about back /and/ next |
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wizzyrea |
back at top left, next at top right? |
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oleonard |
I think we're in a situation where we'll depend on habituation rather than expectation |
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wizzyrea |
hmm you could be right |
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wizzyrea |
ie people will get used to it wherever it is |
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wizzyrea |
so just stick it and leave it? |
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cait |
I am not sure another menu bar / links doing someting is good - would prefersticking to things and places we have already established |
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nengard |
why do the two have to be together? |
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nengard |
put the next/prev in the column on the right |
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nengard |
and the back on the top left |
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oleonard |
I think they'll get lost that way |
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nengard |
k |
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nengard |
like i said if i'm in the minority i understand |
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nengard |
it's a good feature, we should get it in |
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wizzyrea |
this might be an outrage: go ahead and get it in, and let owen take a crack at it after that? |
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wizzyrea |
a la revision? |
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* wizzyrea |
considers that maybe owen doesn't want to do that |
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nengard |
keep loosing my connection - need to fix the router - will probably disconnect me - be back soon |
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* oleonard |
is preparing a screenshot |
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wizzyrea |
ha |
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wizzyrea |
<3 |
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wizzyrea |
or he could submit a new patch with his suggested changes ^.^ |
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oleonard |
http://www.screencast.com/t/JncBwP3M9 |
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cait |
<§ |
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cait |
<3 |
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cait |
sorry |
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wizzyrea |
love it |
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cait |
wanted to say I love it |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: http://www.screencast.com/t/JncBwP3M9 |
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oleonard |
nengard: http://www.screencast.com/t/JncBwP3M9 |
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wizzyrea |
ha! |
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nengard |
nice |
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nengard |
my connection is WAY slow and I can't get it up to speed .... bleh |
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wizzyrea |
I like that very much |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
I think there is something missing, this feature to show all on the same page? |
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nengard |
what would it look like if it's expanded like that second picture on the bug |
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cait |
or is that something different? |
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magnuse |
yeah, that looks good to me |
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magnuse |
good point, cait |
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oleonard |
Yeah, my screenshot doesn't address that feature |
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wizzyrea |
but that, there |
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oleonard |
I wonder if a centered modal window isn't appropriate for that? |
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wizzyrea |
I like much |
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cait |
model window? |
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cait |
modal? |
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wizzyrea |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_window |
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wizzyrea |
like a drop down overlay type thing? |
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* wizzyrea |
imagines owen furiously coding |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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oleonard |
http://dev.iceburg.net/jquery/jqModal/#examples |
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oleonard |
That's a little more than I can do editing the source in Firebug ;) |
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oleonard |
jqModal is a plugin I've used before for this kind of thing. I'd like to have a standard way in Koha to handle that kind of interaction, so I wouldn't mind introducing it as a new dependency |
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magnuse |
cool |
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oleonard |
I guess jQueryUI has a version of this too |
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oleonard |
http://jqueryui.com/demos/dialog/#modal-message |
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oleonard |
My vote: move the links as I suggested in my screenshot, leave the rest as is. Iterate later. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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wizzyrea |
+1 to that |
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magnuse |
what about the list thing? have that in the sidebar? |
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wizzyrea |
leave it as is, fix it later |
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magnuse |
or below the items, as is? |
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oleonard |
I say leave it below the items for now |
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magnuse |
ok, cool |
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magnuse |
care to add that to the bug, and upload the screenshot? |
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cait |
but it's only ...? |
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oleonard |
Sure |
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magnuse |
way cool! |
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oleonard |
cait: Good point, that could be improved too |
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magnuse |
thanks for weighing in on this folks, and sorry for my nagging - you are the bestest! |
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cait |
and 49 :) |
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magnuse |
it's dinnertime, but i may be back later - and hope to see an even lower number then ;-) |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0�C (5:20 PM CEST on June 15, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
europe is tired, next shift should take over |
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cait |
big silence? :) |
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wizzyrea |
nah |
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wizzyrea |
i just discovered that my dev install hasn't indexed. switching to my small dev install db and reindexing that |
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wizzyrea |
then i will get on it. :) |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ :) |
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wizzyrea |
great, small db all set :) |
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cait |
:) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6150] UNIMARC field 225 plugin: allow $a value data entry <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6150> |
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wizzyrea |
cait: on bug 5379 did you mean to sign off on that |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5379 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , import_borrowers.pl fails with db insert/update errors |
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wizzyrea |
it looks like, according to your comment, you maybe meant to? |
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wizzyrea |
or are you suggesting further patches to the help file? |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
I suggested a follow up |
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cait |
it worked nicely but I thought the docs needed to be changed |
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cait |
and now it might not apply any longer :( |
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wizzyrea |
k i'll check to see if it applies |
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wizzyrea |
well hm |
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wizzyrea |
how do you check that if you're pulling from a remote branch? |
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wizzyrea |
i suspect I'm going to learn a lot about git today |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
I think you might need to rebase |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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wizzyrea |
something like rebase -i -s3 origin |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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wizzyrea |
git rebase, of course :P |
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cait |
I think just git rebase master/origin |
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wizzyrea |
yup it works, still applies --- or at least the rebase came back no errors |
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* wizzyrea |
grabs the test csv |
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cait |
cool! |
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Oak |
hello my dear ones |
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Oak |
what's the counter |
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wizzyrea |
50 |
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wizzyrea |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl |
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cait |
we were down to 49 |
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Oak |
good good |
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oleonard |
That page needs some style. The number should be giant. |
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Oak |
i can style that... if you need |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
I think the idea was to embed it somewhere |
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Oak |
using some font from http://www.google.com/webfonts |
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cait |
but we didn't manageto embed it into the wiki yet |
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Oak |
ah |
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Oak |
dinner is on the table... be back in 15 |
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cait |
oh dinner.. |
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wahanui |
dinner is probably a good keyword |
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cait |
pho? |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
forget dinner |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot dinner |
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wizzyrea |
silly |
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wizzyrea |
@botsnack cookie |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: I suck |
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wizzyrea |
botsnack cookie |
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wizzyrea |
meh |
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wizzyrea |
my bot whispering skills don't extend to cookies, apparently |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack schokokeks |
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wahanui |
thanks cait :) |
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wizzyrea |
thx cait :) |
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wizzyrea |
right that should be down to 49 |
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cait |
yay :) |
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wizzyrea |
cait, that SIP stuff... I don't have a non-production sip machine to test it with :( |
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ricmarques |
Hi all... I'm going a bit nuts here with "git". Does anyone know why "git log existing_file" is returning no output, instead of the log of that file? "git log" works. Running Debian 6.0.1 ("Squeeze") |
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cait |
yeah, I have no idea how to do that |
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cait |
I think sekjal has something? |
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ricmarques |
Never mind, I got it... I was doing " git log blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/SIP/ILS.pm" (doesn't work) instead of "git log C4/SIP/ILS.pm" (works!) |
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cait |
Claim a bug for global sign off day! http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_2011-06-15#What |
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cait |
;) |
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Oak |
save some bugs for next sign-off day okay |
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cait |
we will hve new bugs until then - no worry |
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Oak |
oh good |
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Oak |
or not good? maybe |
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wizzyrea |
bugs happen, fixing them is the challenge ;) |
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wizzyrea |
afk lunch |
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ricmarques |
I believe we have 2 new quips for Koha's Bugzilla: "<Oak> save some bugs for next sign-off day okay" and "<cait> we will hve new bugs until then - no worry" ;-) |
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Oak |
:D |
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ricmarques |
Quips added :) |
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* Oak |
goes to see the lunar eclipse |
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cait |
:) |
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Oak |
yup :) going now... after that smiley |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
hope you have a good view |
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Oak |
thanks! now really really leaving |
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Oak |
uh oh, i don't see any change in the moon's shape |
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Oak |
will try agin in half hour |
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magnuse |
back, but not for long... |
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ricmarques |
"Invalid command 'RewriteEngine'" .... here we go again :( |
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ricmarques |
"# a2enmod rewrite" solved it (Oh... the joys of Apache Configuration in Debian!) |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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ricmarques |
magnuse: :) |
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ricmarques |
"Welcome to the Koha Web Installer".... Now, that's more like it! :) |
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magnuse |
woohoo |
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magnuse |
keep those sign offs coming, folks! still 16 hours left of the day (in hawaii)! |
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ricmarques |
Gotta go... Take care, ppl! :) |
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wizzyrea |
soo what do we do with the ones that are "needs sign off" but are dependent on other bugs that have failed qa? |
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wizzyrea |
such as bug 5871 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5871 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CSS changes for OPAC |
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wizzyrea |
should they change status to something else? |
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wizzyrea |
do we need a new status "waiting on dependency" |
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oleonard |
Maybe for the wiki listing at least |
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wizzyrea |
or... mark as failed with a note that it's waiting on it's dependency? |
| 18:27 |
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wizzyrea |
does not apply might be better |
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wizzyrea |
(cuz it doesn't, until the dependency does) |
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slef |
moo |
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cait |
hi slef |
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wizzyrea |
cait: bug 5877 -- does that db table referenced come from some other patch? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once |
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cait |
it seems not |
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wizzyrea |
because i've just marked it failed on the same grounds |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
should have done that |
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wizzyrea |
as you did - I tried to use it but the db table it's asking for apparently doesn't exist? |
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wizzyrea |
all good :) |
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wizzyrea |
maybe I'm missing something. |
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cait |
yeah, paul_p will tell us :) |
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talljoy |
I'm working on zebra for my new install (Koha 3.4.1) on Debian 6. I am getting this error when trying to reindex: |
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talljoy |
Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. |
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talljoy |
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. |
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wizzyrea |
export PERL5LIB = /home/koha/kohaclone and |
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wizzyrea |
export KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
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wizzyrea |
then try again? |
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* library_systems_guy |
agrees with wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
uh, your path may vary depending on which user you installed koha in |
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wizzyrea |
and whether you are using a dev install or not |
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talljoy |
not a dev install. just the standard install |
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wizzyrea |
ah ok |
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wizzyrea |
then probably... |
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wizzyrea |
170 Example (for standard install): |
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wizzyrea |
171 $ export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
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wizzyrea |
172 $ export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib |
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wizzyrea |
173 |
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talljoy |
that's what I had done. and I got the error |
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wizzyrea |
hm, what are you typing to try and reindex? |
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talljoy |
as root user.... koha-3.4.1/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a |
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wizzyrea |
ah, did you run the export as your root user too? |
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talljoy |
hmmm....don't think i did an export... |
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wizzyrea |
run the two exports as root and try again |
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talljoy |
oh, you mean the export of path. yes i did those as root |
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wizzyrea |
ah |
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wizzyrea |
and you say your path is in a koha-3.4.1 |
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talljoy |
yup |
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wizzyrea |
what's above koha-3.4.1 |
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talljoy |
nothing |
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wizzyrea |
or is it at the root of the drive |
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talljoy |
ls |
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wizzyrea |
AH |
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wizzyrea |
AHA |
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wizzyrea |
so instead of the regular paths |
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talljoy |
do tell...what did i do? |
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wizzyrea |
1mo |
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wizzyrea |
can you ls /usr/share/koha/lib? |
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wizzyrea |
do you get anything there? |
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wizzyrea |
um, no question mark at the end heh |
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talljoy |
C4 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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talljoy |
exactly. |
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library_systems_guy |
isn't that where C4 is supposed to be on a prod install? |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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* talljoy |
scratches head... |
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* wizzyrea |
is thinking about this problem |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
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wizzyrea |
in your error |
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wizzyrea |
it says |
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wizzyrea |
(@INC contains: usr/share/koha/lib |
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wizzyrea |
I think you need a / on the front of that usr |
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wizzyrea |
so export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib |
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talljoy |
let me try. (I always forget those ; in SQL statements too) |
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talljoy |
i ran it and got no error. just went to the next comman line. let me see inside catalog if data exists now.. |
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* wizzyrea |
cheers |
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talljoy |
still not data in koha though... |
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wizzyrea |
add a -v to that index job |
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wizzyrea |
and it'll tell you more |
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talljoy |
oh hmm.. 0 records exported. |
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talljoy |
might have something to do with it. lol |
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wizzyrea |
ooo |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
maybe |
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talljoy |
thought i had installed test data in install. |
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talljoy |
hmmmm |
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wizzyrea |
well you can do a query in mysql to see |
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wizzyrea |
select count(*) from biblio would tell you how many biblios it thinks you should have |
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talljoy |
i'll try to remember the ';' |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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talljoy |
count of 0 |
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talljoy |
sigh |
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wizzyrea |
there you have it, it appears you have no bibs. BUT |
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wizzyrea |
you can index it once you do have bibs! |
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wizzyrea |
so that's a win |
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talljoy |
LOL |
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talljoy |
all in the attitude. |
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talljoy |
i've got another error that I think is related to debian 6 |
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wizzyrea |
ah, ok go |
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talljoy |
update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults |
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talljoy |
update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
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talljoy |
insserv: warning: script 'koha-zebra-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides |
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talljoy |
the first is the command i ran |
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talljoy |
the last two are the error messages. |
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wizzyrea |
well a warning anywa |
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wizzyrea |
y |
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wizzyrea |
ps ax | grep zebra |
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wizzyrea |
does that give you any results? |
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talljoy |
24703 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep zebra |
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wizzyrea |
oh have you actually started the daemon? |
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wizzyrea |
der |
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wizzyrea |
(me, not you) |
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wizzyrea |
that last command tells it to start at boot time |
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talljoy |
yes, i wasn't sure a warning was enough to stop me. :-) |
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talljoy |
on to cron jobs. (no errors to report yet ;-) ) |
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wizzyrea |
hi nate :) |
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slef |
yeehah |
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starts installing a development koha for signing off... better late than never |
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cait |
hi #koha :) |
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Space_Librarian |
hey cait |
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Space_Librarian |
You're up late |
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eythian |
hi cait |
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cait |
good night #koha |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ |
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cait |
magnuse++ : |
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pianohacker |
Hi |
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slef |
hi pianohacker ! |
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pianohacker |
hey slef |
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pianohacker |
how's it going? |
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slef |
@query yaz4 |
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huginn |
slef: No results for "yaz4." |
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slef |
pianohacker: not too bad. Finally have our new research machine up. |
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pianohacker |
Research machine? |
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slef |
anyone know if we actually need yaz3 rather than yaz4? |
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slef |
@query libyaz3 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5468 minor, P5, ---, robin, NEW , libyaz3 debian dependency |
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jransom |
Morena all |
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slef |
hi jransom |
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eythian |
slef: I think yaz4 is fine, so far as I remember |
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* eythian |
checks to see what I run |
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slef |
hrm, there's a install_misc/apt-get-debian-lenny.sh but no install_misc/apt-get-debian-squeeze.sh... not that running random sh as root is a good thing anyway |
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jransom |
heya |
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* eythian |
changes person in the middle of my comment |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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jransom |
tena koe |
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eythian |
jransom: g'day |
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pianohacker |
slef: dpkg --set-selections < whatever_file_it_is_these_days; sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade ? |
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pianohacker |
hi brooke, ransom, eythian |
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slef |
pianohacker: yeah, that was what's in my local notes, disagrees with INSTALL.debian |
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eythian |
slef: our stuff runs libyaz4 |
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slef |
eythian: thanks |
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pianohacker |
slef: install.debian is wrong on that point, afaik |
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slef |
INSTALL.debian is probably going to get patched to within an inch of its life when I get a mo |
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pianohacker |
slef++ |
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pianohacker |
preemptive karma :) |
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slef |
I think I've just seen another hack which will simplify it further. |
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slef |
sudo aptitude install $(perl debian/list-deps) |
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slef |
dang, that won't work quite like that |
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slef |
but you get the idea |
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eythian |
that won't work because there are a couple that aren't in debian |
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eythian |
I've put those in the koha repos though, and pushed them into debian squeeze+1 |
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slef |
eythian: yeah, debian/list-deps should put missing errors on stderr not stdout |
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slef |
eythian: no, I can't remember the next codename either :) |
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eythian |
I think that perhaps it should put them on stdout and stderr, that way the build will break if you don't notice the stderr message, which is what you want |
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Brooke |
oh eythian, you're looking good mate, and I've not even had a beer. |
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Brooke |
ease of installation ++ |
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Brooke |
eythian++ |
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eythian |
Brooke: are you playing with the packages? |
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pianohacker |
rangi: around? |
