IRC log for #koha, 2011-06-06

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03:58 palhmbs hi - found out about koha through OpenHatch - looks like a great project!
03:58 palhmbs I'd like to help you guys add a bug tracker - I think your using bugzilla?
04:31 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6466] hung socket read causes SIP tests to fail <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6466>
04:39 mtj palhmbs:  you know of a bug-tracker better than bugzilla?
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05:09 mtj palhmbs:  aaah - you mean add the Koha bugzilla to the OpenHatch tracker
05:12 mtj OpenHatch++
05:25 palhmbs yup - the OpenHatch bug tracker tracker :D
05:51 mtj palhmbs:  initial Koha bug-trackers added to OpenHatch...
05:53 palhmbs mtj, thanks for that -- that's awesome!
05:53 palhmbs is there a list of current libraries using koha?
05:54 * palhmbs would love to see some usage stats
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05:59 palhmbs nm - found it, very impressive too!
06:09 palhmbs thanks again - ttyl!
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06:18 cait hi #koha
06:20 Oak hello cait :)
06:20 Oak in Berlin?
06:20 cait not yet
06:21 cait leaving for the train station in 15 minutes :)
06:21 Oak ah
06:21 Oak have a safe journey
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06:29 Ropuch Morning #koha
06:31 alex_a hi #koha
06:32 cait thx Oak :)
06:32 cait hi Ropuch and alex_a
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06:36 cait hi julian
06:37 cait bye all :)
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06:43 reiveune hello
06:43 wahanui que tal, reiveune
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06:44 reiveune salut lds
06:44 lds salut reiveune
06:44 lds comment vas
06:44 reiveune bien, et toi, on te revoie quand ici ?
06:44 lds c'est à déterminer
06:45 reiveune ok, mais à part ça, ça va ? lds ?
06:45 lds oui tranquille, j'entretient mon potager :-)
06:45 reiveune cool
06:49 paul_p hello world
06:49 paul_p reiveune & lds : you're on #koha -english speaking- channel ;-)
06:50 lds paul_p: my apologies
06:50 paul_p ;-)
06:50 reiveune paul_p: my apologies
06:50 reiveune :P
06:50 lds reiveune: I grow my tomatoes
06:50 reiveune lds : how are you ?
06:51 lds in my garden
06:51 lds :-D
06:51 reiveune :-D
06:57 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
06:59 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:59 alex_a bonjour magnuse
07:00 magnuse hi alex_a
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07:00 magnuse bonjour clrh
07:00 clrh hello magnuse and all
07:07 rangi evening
07:07 magnuse ata marie rangi
07:18 Oak ok, so we know rangi, I know ata, who is marie?
07:19 magnuse 10th from the top: http://christchurchcitylibrari[…]/Maori/TeReoKete/
07:22 * Oak bookmarks the page
07:22 Oak Ata Marie magnuse !
07:23 magnuse ata marie Oak
07:24 Oak Whakarongo, E noho, and Turituri
07:24 Oak fun :)
07:27 Oak i'll say that Brooke when she comes here...
07:27 Oak to*
07:28 magnuse hehe
07:30 Oak :)
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07:41 francharb morning all
07:41 magnuse bonjour francharb
07:41 Oak Haere Mai
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07:53 miguel hi all
07:53 Oak Haere Mai
07:53 magnuse hi miguel
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08:14 magnuse @wunder boo
08:15 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (9:50 AM CEST on June 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
08:15 magnuse i'd simply call it "a beautiful day"...
08:29 Oak @wunder islamabad
08:29 huginn` Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 40.0�C (1:00 PM PKT on June 06, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
08:30 Oak excellent
08:30 magnuse ooh, that's hot!
08:30 Oak you think
08:30 Oak :)
08:30 magnuse hot and dry!
08:33 Oak it's actually cooler today. these days it's normally 45�C
08:33 magnuse wow
08:33 * Oak drinks water again
08:33 magnuse sounds like a good idea! ;-)
08:33 Oak aaah
08:33 Oak :)
08:34 Oak and we only have fans in our home. no air conditioning !
08:35 magnuse hm
08:52 Ropuch @wunder Wroclaw
08:52 huginn` Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is 26.0�C (10:30 AM CEST on June 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
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09:17 slef @seen gmcharlt
09:17 huginn` slef: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 2 days, 20 hours, 41 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> @quote add <oleonard> That's why I'm the only one with a flying car. I just didn't figure anyone else would be interested.
09:18 rangi slef: how far away from brighton are you?
09:18 rangi slef++ #good email
09:18 slef @later tell gmcharlt please please please can we either fix wiki sending confirmation emails or switch off email validation requirement? bug 6326 is really hurting us (see dpavlin on koha-devel)
09:18 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded.
09:18 slef rangi: about 4h
09:19 rangi ah righto
09:19 slef rangi: I forked your git-bz fork. How receptive is the maintainer to pull requests?
09:19 slef rangi: why about brighton?
09:20 rangi slef: ill pull :) but i sent a patch upstream ... silence
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09:20 rangi worth trying again
09:20 rangi and brighton is where the catalyst UK offices are
09:20 slef you or me?
09:21 slef oic. Brighton is the only UK place with a green MP
09:21 rangi (staffed with all nzers on their OE currently :))
09:21 rangi yeah one of them was over sounds like a nice place
09:22 rangi i just thought if it was close and you thought it would be a good idea, id try and get you all to meet sometime, they arent doing any koha work but lots of drupal, moodle and mahara
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09:24 slef OE?
09:25 rangi Overseas Experience
09:25 rangi
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09:28 mib_sun hi koha
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09:31 slef hi mib_sun
09:31 mib_sun slef: In koha can I keep the book price in different currency format??
09:33 mib_sun for eg. some books have the price in US dollar, some others in pound, and indian rupees
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09:35 mib_sun when I am using a symbol in the 'Cost, normal purchase price' field it is saving as 0.00
09:39 slef mib_sun: In general, administration: currencies and I think whatever has exchange rate 1.00 is the default, and that is what the book price should be stored in.  I think this could be done better, but most book data isn't very clean with this, so the incentive isn't great.
09:39 slef I suspect we should support a three-letter currency code and then a price, but I've not seen book data like that yet.
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09:42 rangi hi cait1, on the train?
09:43 cait1 yep, finally
09:43 cait1 but they cancelled all reservations
09:43 cait1 got a seat and I am very happy about it
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09:44 * cait waves to slef
09:45 * slef waves at cait
09:45 * magnuse waves to slef and cait and rangi
09:47 cait :)
09:47 cait god dag magnuse! :)
09:47 magnuse guten tag cait
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09:52 druthb o/
09:52 magnuse \o
09:52 rangi hi druthb
09:53 druthb hi, magnus and rangi! :)
09:54 Oak Haere Mai druthb
09:55 magnuse hiya druthb
09:55 druthb :)
09:56 * druthb is feelin' the love this mornin'.
09:56 mib_sun ya slef. then to store the book price  I have to convert the price to a currency format I have set in , isn't it? but it is very difficult..
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10:08 cait hi druthb :)
10:12 rangi cait: will you eat a Pfannkuchen in berlin?
10:17 cait I can try
10:18 rangi heh
10:19 cait but I think it's the same you can get elsewhere as berliner
10:19 rangi yep
10:20 rangi but because its berlin, they dont call them that
10:21 cait after I missed out on the pain au chocolat... least I can do is eat a pfannkuchen
10:36 magnuse cait: and go back to france to get some pain au chocolate... ;-)
10:37 cait sounds like a good plan
10:37 magnuse :-)
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11:00 Oak \o
11:03 druthb o/
11:03 Oak Whānau
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11:39 Oak Haere Mai Whānau
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11:58 cait hmpf
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12:04 Oak Haere Mai cait
12:04 Oak Whakarongo, e noho, and turituri.
12:05 cait hi Oak
12:05 * cait waves from the train
12:05 cait ?
12:05 Oak when you get back check this out: http://christchurchcitylibrari[…]/Maori/TeReoKete/
12:06 Oak and pull your hand inside from the window. it's dangerous
12:07 druthb lol
12:07 Oak :)
12:07 * druthb better watch out....Oak is feelin' sassy today.
12:07 Oak hehe
12:08 cait :)
12:09 * cait likes a sassy Oak
12:09 cait but no open windows in this train, trying to freeze us with aircon
12:09 Oak oh well
12:10 Oak ah, so that's why you looked blue
12:11 Oak i thought it was some new shade of blush on
12:11 Oak i think that's what it's called
12:11 druthb hm....a blue blush....I wonder if my cosmetics store has that.  They might; the gothy punk kids go there.
12:12 magnuse hehe
12:12 Oak :)
12:13 cait hehe
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12:14 magnuse kia ora NateC and oleonard
12:14 oleonard Hi
12:14 NateC Morning!
12:14 NateC or Afternoon!
12:14 NateC or Evening!
12:14 NateC :)
12:14 * cait waves
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12:19 Oak stop waving cait. that guy sitting opposite is looking at you suspiciously
12:20 cait ok
12:20 * cait stops and tries to act normal
12:20 Oak pfft, like that will work
12:20 cait hehe
12:21 cait no, probably not
12:21 Oak :)
12:25 * druthb likes seeing a sassy, happy Oak, too.
12:26 * cait suspects that acting normal makes her even more suspicious...
12:26 cait what shall I do?
12:27 Oak okay cait, go ahead, start waving at people again
12:28 Oak well druthb , I can't kill bugs (no Perl skills at present). so I might as well cheer people up whenever I can...
12:28 druthb :)
12:33 Oak nah not people. friends!
12:34 Oak kind of.
12:34 magnuse family!
12:34 Oak yes!
12:35 * cait waves slowly
12:35 druthb :D
12:35 cait hm
12:35 cait I think this is a lost case
12:35 Oak yes cait, now you just look like a sick smurf
12:35 Oak waving slowly
12:36 Oak you know smurf right?
12:36 Oak they were blue
12:37 cait hmpf!
12:37 * cait blames Oak
12:39 Oak :) so how long before you reach home?
12:45 cait schlümpfe
12:45 Oak yes, blue schl�mpfe
12:46 magnuse ooh, that does not sound nice!
12:46 magnuse what schl�mpfe = smurf?
12:46 Oak that's what said
12:46 cait :)
12:47 magnuse and google images agrees
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12:49 cait yep
12:49 cait I had a smurf house and smurfs to play wiht... must still be somewhere in the attic
12:49 cait Oak: on my way to bibliothekartag now - I think it will about 5 pm, 2 more hours
12:50 Oak hmm i see
12:52 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6464] Add inconsistence check for '%s' count in <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6464> / [Bug 6291] Cart printing truncated in Firefox <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6291>
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13:15 cait back
13:17 Oak oh good
13:18 Oak aren't you tired?
13:19 Oak oh you meant back after disconnecting
13:21 cait yes :)
13:21 cait and tired - yes
13:22 magnuse how long is the trip?
13:22 Oak ~90 more minutes... I guess
13:23 cait right
13:23 cait but isn't it late where you are?
13:23 Oak nah, 18:30
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13:24 Brooke kia ora
13:24 sekjal morning, #koha
13:24 druthb hi, Brooke.  :)
13:24 Oak Oh hello Brooke. Whakarongo, e noho, and turituri.
13:25 Brooke :D
13:25 magnuse hiya Brooke
13:26 Oak cait, electricity here will go out from 19:00 to 20:00
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13:30 Oak i was just kidding Brooke you don't have to turituri.
13:30 Brooke hehehe
13:30 Brooke who knows
13:30 Brooke maybe you were ready to recite an epic.
13:30 Oak hehe
13:30 Oak lol
13:32 druthb wahanui: who is Brooke's sugar mama?
13:32 wahanui it has been said that Brooke's sugar mama is druthb.
13:32 druthb lol
13:32 druthb what I get for buying her ice cream, I guess.
13:33 Brooke you're awful.
13:33 druthb :P
13:33 Brooke it was his *standard* gig.
13:33 druthb Oh, I'm sure.  And being in Dupont, I'm sure he gets to use it a lot.
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13:36 Brooke 0/
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13:39 Oak hmm, looks like e.t.'s head turned 90�
13:40 oleonard Janusz is going to town on T:T fixes.
13:40 Brooke sweet
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13:44 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6468] Authorities browsing error in OPAC <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6468>
13:45 wizzyrea @quote get 123
13:45 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
13:46 * cait waves again
13:46 oleonard is today particularly quote #123ish wizzyrea ?
13:46 * Oak waves to cait
13:47 wizzyrea hehe yea
13:47 Oak passing through tunnels cait ?
13:48 cait no, connection in tunnels ispretty good most of the time
13:48 Oak hm
13:48 * cait waves at wizzyrea
13:49 * wizzyrea waves at Cait
13:49 wizzyrea hiya!
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13:54 magnuse o/
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14:08 * druthb waves at wizzyrea and cait and Oak and magnuse.  Doesn't she look silly doing that?
14:08 magnuse nah
14:08 cait would say you fit in
14:17 Brooke yes
14:17 Brooke fit in is perfectly fine
14:17 Brooke ARGH!
14:17 Brooke not a question
14:17 wizzyrea forget fit in
14:17 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot fit in
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14:18 Brooke 0/
14:33 cait hi Brooke :)
14:34 Brooke :)
14:34 cait t
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14:44 wizzyrea imagemagick--
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15:01 cait berlin!
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15:09 rhcl hihi
15:12 rhcl Harmony Bay Gourmet Blueberry Cobbler seasonal coffee is quite good, despite my penchant for plain old good quality black coffee.
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15:24 rhcl wizzyrea: we need a SMUG or OSDUG for Koha
15:25 * druthb hasn't heard of SMUG in a couple of
15:26 rhcl Well, it is gone, right, and has been for a couple of years?
15:26 rhcl I think the last I heard was they were disbanding, but maybe I'm wrong.
15:26 druthb I don't know.  It's been a while since I talked to Barbara Cornelius.  I know they stopped having conferences a couple years ago.
15:27 rhcl Koha needs more conferences.
15:27 SteveJ *shudder* Not more conferences!
15:28 Brooke no, no it does not
15:28 Brooke I would concede to more unconferences
15:28 rhcl does so
15:28 Brooke and meetups
15:28 Brooke and ad hoc friends getting together thingies
15:28 druthb unconferences++
15:28 Brooke I mean let's be honest here
15:29 rhcl ?
15:29 Brooke we're really just looking for an avenue to
15:29 Brooke A) drink
15:29 Brooke and B) bribe developers into making stuff for us
15:29 Brooke so
15:29 Brooke doesn't quite require a conference every time :P
15:29 * druthb chooses A, having nothing useful to bribe developers with.
15:30 SteveJ IMO, I would rather see more at existing conferences than entirely separate conferences, such as get togethers at SLA and ALA. I suspect there are a lot of us that are heavily involved in Koha but cannot go to a separate conference for it.
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15:32 Brooke KohaCon registration = $0
15:32 Brooke KohaCon content = priceless
15:32 Brooke ALA registration = a left nut
15:32 Brooke ALA content = I could have read this.
15:32 rhcl Well, I always liked going to the SMUG and OSDUG conferences. And $15 for a lunch box was worth it.
15:32 oleonard KohaCon transportation and expenses = the other nut
15:32 SteveJ heh, so true in mana ways
15:33 SteveJ Though the real value of ALA is in the divisions, not the main conference
15:33 Brooke owen: true but it's someplace you want to visit, and it's generally not the wrong time of year.
15:34 rhcl Noting, of course, that those were regional events typically attended via auto and not subject to the great discomforts of the airlines and the gauntlet.
15:34 Brooke and if you're local, lucky you.
15:35 SteveJ Maybe we could hold one in Phoenix in August, that is a pretty good time and location for me!
15:35 rhcl I'm in!
15:35 sekjal more regional Koha unconferences sounds good to me.  Local folks getting together, sharing ideas.  support companies would do well to send representatives to help
15:35 rhcl and money for amenities -jk
15:36 rhcl The Laura Linda Library was really impressive.
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15:38 Brooke o/
15:39 rhcl correction, Linda Hall
15:42 Brooke ASI has a pretty good breakdown for its regional activities
15:42 Brooke and the frequency isn't uber frequent
15:42 Brooke nosiness also helps
15:43 Brooke if you see a familiar domain come over the listserv
15:43 Brooke folks should feel like they can say hi and not be bit :)
15:43 Brooke as long as there's a flow, it's a good thing
15:44 Brooke I would just hate to see things start to edge towards silod
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15:46 wizzyrea anyone else get a nan% when trying to batch edit in current master?
15:47 Brooke someone's twitter eventually linked to this and it's well worth a look.
15:52 wizzyrea is cait allowed
15:52 wizzyrea er
15:52 wizzyrea here
15:52 wizzyrea lol
15:52 wizzyrea cait's always allowed
15:54 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6470] Unable to filter out actions made by kohaadmin <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6470>
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16:03 skushner Yes, more east coast conferences...or any, would be nice!
16:05 Brooke I offered a couple times
16:05 * Brooke could offer again.
16:05 Brooke DC should be easy enough for most folks.
16:07 druthb DC_koha_unconference_and_hackfest++
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16:18 wizzyrea am I understanding correctly that we should be replacing $template->param('something' => 'something'); with $template->{VARS}->{'something'}
16:18 wizzyrea or only in certain situations
16:19 oleonard Oh no, I was wrong all along! Ours is the fork and Liblime's is the real Koha!
16:21 wizzyrea sigh
16:21 wizzyrea don't feed the troll.
16:22 cait wizzyrea: I think only in if conditions it's necessary
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16:25 wizzyrea i know rangi said that there was a helper script to deal with those
16:25 wizzyrea but what I'm wondering is
16:25 wizzyrea if it's *better* to get rid of them anywhere they stand
16:25 wizzyrea as a matter of cleanup
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17:27 * Oak waves
17:27 Brooke 0/
17:28 Oak Kia ora :)
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17:29 Oak Haere Mai cait
17:29 Brooke :)
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17:30 cait hi :)
17:30 Oak hello
17:30 Oak E moe cait
17:30 Oak must be tired, no?
17:30 cait sometime you have to translate that for me :)
17:30 cait it's not that late
17:30 cait 19:35
17:31 cait about to leave and find something for dinner :)
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17:31 Oak http://christchurchcitylibrari[…]/Maori/TeReoKete/ that's all I know cait
17:32 cait_away :)
17:32 cait_away have to go, ttyl :)
17:33 Oak ok
17:33 Brooke :)
17:33 Oak she's too kind
17:33 Brooke
17:34 Brooke[…]basics/index.html
17:34 Brooke then there's Chris' Da's book, of course.
17:35 Oak Ehara mai!
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17:35 Brooke :D
17:47 rhcl_away wish did maori
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18:01 rangi morning
18:01 rhcl_away hey rangi
18:01 oleonard Hi rangi
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18:09 oleonard Working on anything fun lately rangi?
18:09 rangi gotta a go live on friday
18:09 rangi thats taking up most of my time
18:09 rangi but i am working on this too
18:09 Brooke morena
18:09 oleonard A Koha library?
18:10 rangi[…]9&hide_resolved=1
18:10 rangi yup, 3 prominent govt organisations using Koha as a shared solution
18:11 Brooke :)
18:11 Brooke good on Catalyst, as usual.
18:12 rangi oh and its hmm 15 days
18:12 rangi until i fly out to the states
18:13 rangi my pocket is already $14usd lighter, you now have to pay to apply for a visa waiver, using the online form
18:13 rangi guess what the legislation that introduced the charge is called
18:13 rangi the 'Travel Promotion Act'
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18:13 oleonard US government is so messed up
18:13 rangi orwell couldnt write it better :)
18:14 rangi but thats ok, i get to hang out with some of my koha friends
18:14 Brooke I once again apologise for the actions of the rowdy group of men down the street.
18:14 wizzyrea rowdy doesn't even begin
18:15 * oleonard would happily buy rangi $14+ worth of beer if he could
18:15 * wizzyrea contemplated shipping it to his hotel :P
18:15 wizzyrea but it's difficult to ship beer out of kansas.
18:17 rangi i think bg is making some!!!
18:17 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
18:18 * magnuse is pretty sure there was something he wanted to ask rangi about, but now he can't remember. lucky rangi...
18:18 rangi heh
18:20 rangi new zealand koha
18:21 magnuse ah yes now i remember, we talked about a link/button for downloading backups and configfiles in the packages, but i couldn't find it...
18:22 rangi ahh, its not in the main repo, because of that reason, it only works with the packages
18:22 magnuse ah, ok, it's not me going blind then ;-)
18:22 rangi but we are working on wrapping it with a syspref that the packages set, so that it can be
18:22 magnuse very cool
18:23 rangi its in the catalyst repo tho, i can get eythian to show you if you like
18:23 magnuse thanks, but there's no hurry
18:23 rangi righto
18:23 magnuse plenty of other things i *ought* to do first...
18:25 rangi :)
18:26 rangi someone has last word syndrome, so i think we would be best served to disengage
18:26 magnuse hehe
18:26 rangi we all have better things to do
18:26 Brooke I submit that we're just having a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
18:26 rangi and in the scheme of things it doesnt matter
18:27 rangi haters gonna hate
18:27 rhcl_away we need to stock rangi up w/ some bacon, as I recall us talking about it. Couple of cases of Sam Adams and a good case of Armor Star premium bacon...
18:27 rangi hehe, cant bring bacon back
18:28 rhcl_away even fully cured, in sealed packages?
18:28 Brooke oh no
18:28 rangi hmmm maybe in sealed
18:28 Brooke customs beagles would have a field day, methinks.
18:28 rangi but i wouldnt rate my chances
18:29 rhcl_away well, commercially sealed like in the store?
18:29 wizzyrea yea, don't feed the trolls.
18:29 rhcl_away give the beagles some Gains Burgers, they'll let it slide
18:29 Brooke >:)
18:29 Brooke I like the cut of your jib, homie g laws.
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18:31 magnuse those border control people were pretty serious about keeping strange edibles out of nz, i think...
18:32 rangi yeah, all food has to be declared
18:33 rangi normally they take anything primaryish (like bacon, honey, meat) off ya
18:33 rhcl_away daem foreign heathen food, corrupts the virtues of the native young
18:33 magnuse hehe
18:36 magnuse ouch... needs signoff = 73
18:36 rangi dang we had it near 66 for a little while
18:36 rangi a bunch are easy pickings
18:37 rangi TT ones
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18:41 conan hello everybody, good afternoon
18:41 Brooke hi
18:42 magnuse hola conan
18:53 oleonard The latest patch on Bug 5436 doesn't apply for me
18:53 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
18:53 rangi yeah its failed qa oleonard
18:53 oleonard Oh I didn't notice. I thought you were asking for testers.
18:54 rangi unfortunately nope
18:55 rangi ok time to feed the kids and make lunches
18:55 rangi bbiab
18:56 wizzyrea git-bz++
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18:57 * magnuse must get around to testing that one of these days...
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19:18 magnuse g'night #koha
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19:26 conan what's the protocol  for .po changes inclusion? do we manage the same way as code bugs?
19:26 conan I mean, create a bug report, attach patch, etc?
19:27 conan can't find anything in the wiki
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19:27 Brooke 0/
19:28 cait conan: do your changes on
19:29 cait it will be pulled from there into the repo
19:29 cait if you need your files updated - write fredericd
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19:30 Brooke o/
19:30 cait :)
19:30 cait hi Brooke
19:30 Brooke I've been here, I was saying hi to Ccorrales ;)
19:30 conan cait: my changes are not translations, but fixes to unappropriate number of %s's
19:30 cait there are scripts that do create those files and are used for updating
19:31 conan it's too cumbersome to find them in translate.koha...
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19:31 cait ah
19:31 cait you can upload a file
19:31 cait ask fredericd to give you permission
19:31 cait upload and overwrite what's in there
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19:31 cait I do that too, grab the file, correct errors in poedit (which is good for finding them!) and upload back to pootle
19:32 cait or did you mean the en side of things?
19:32 conan cait: I've been looking for him since a couple of days now, are you telling me this kind of stuff doesn't get managed with bugzilla?
19:32 cait correct
19:32 cait write him an email
19:32 cait or write to translate-koha list
19:33 conan cait: my issues arose when I tried to do a spanish install for 3.4.x, I didn't downloaded anything from the translating site
19:33 cait hope i understood your problem correctly
19:33 cait ah
19:33 cait perhaps try again with the file from pootle
19:33 cait you can wget the po files from there
19:33 cait I normally always get a fresh copy, because I update them all the time, fix typos and such
19:34 conan just tried to do an install and translate script spitted some unclear error, so I started to look into it and with help from here I noticed the problem were the %s
19:34 cait before a release the updated files will be integrated into koha
19:34 conan so I fixed those
19:34 conan but I don't know what to do next
19:34 cait ok
19:34 cait you fixed in the translated strings?
19:34 conan nope...
19:34 conan well., one or two
19:34 conan but the main fixing was in the %s's
19:35 conan fredericd: you around?
19:35 rangi back
19:35 cait conan
19:35 Brooke welcome back
19:35 cait the %s you fixed, where there in the en strings or in your translated strings
19:35 conan cait:
19:35 cait where = were
19:36 cait did you fix the po files or the scripts creating them?
19:36 conan rangi: your kids eat fast
19:36 conan cait: po file
19:36 conan s
19:36 cait ok, this is not managed via bugzilla
19:37 conan cait: the %s were broken mostly for the translated strings, but there were also a couple in the english strings too
19:37 cait and in the po files, you did change the %s in the translated strings?
19:37 rangi I get them breakfast, then make lunches and then my wife takes over
19:37 conan good
19:37 conan so, what's the protocol then?
19:38 cait honestly
19:38 conan cait: translated and untranslated
19:38 cait I am confused
19:38 conan cait: let me paste you a git log -p
19:38 cait for the things you fixed in the translated strings: upload back to pootle
19:38 conan gimme a second...
19:38 rangi email koha-translate
19:38 cait for the things fixed in the en part - those need to be corrected in the template files or the script needs changes
19:38 cait for the script > bugzilla
19:38 cait for the templates > bugzilla
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19:39 cait do what rangi says
19:39 rangi and/or fredericd, some ppl have been fixing things with %s already
19:39 rangi be good not to double up
19:41 rangi wizzyrea: u around?
19:41 rangi did u forget to change the status of bug 6467 ?
19:41 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6467 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Add shelving location to checkin results screen
19:42 pastebot "conan" at pasted "3 commits modifying es-ES po files" (294 lines) at
19:42 conan there
19:43 rangi psst, translate list :)
19:44 conan rangi: that's what I was asking, thanks, writing them now
19:49 rangi cool
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19:54 rangi ok my stop
19:54 rangi back soon
20:04 rangi back
20:04 cait :)
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20:12 rangi wizzyrea++
20:12 wizzyrea oh for fixing the bug?
20:12 wizzyrea >.>
20:12 rangi yup
20:12 wizzyrea it's important to note that git bz doesn't do that bit for you :P
20:13 wizzyrea damn shame, imo
20:13 * cait cait_afk
20:13 rangi well we are the only ppl in thw world probably who use those fields
20:13 wizzyrea truf
20:13 rangi but, no reason why we cant make it for us
20:13 wizzyrea something like git bz attach -s [for signoff] xxxx HEAD
20:14 rangi something like that
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20:14 cait_afk t
20:14 cait_afk hm
20:14 cait_afk afk
20:24 Brooke right, time to do other forms of nothing.
20:24 rangi :)
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21:02 conan what could be the reason that I got a string translated in the .po file but it's not applied to the pointed file?
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21:03 rangi the .po file doesnt match, thats one possibile reason
21:03 rangi ie the .po file hasnt been updated from the templates recently
21:05 conan but it correctly points to the right line number in the 'en' file
21:06 conan it's the 'es' file which gets screwed
21:06 pastebot "conan" at pasted "translation inconsistence" (22 lines) at
21:06 sekjal goodnight, #koha!
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21:06 conan sekjal: bye
21:07 rangi no idea
21:07 rangi ah yes i do
21:07 rangi look at hte strings
21:07 rangi <a1>Retrasos</a>
21:08 rangi theres no <a1>Overdues</a> bit in the english srting
21:08 conan it's the a1, right?
21:08 rangi thats my guess
21:08 conan but it's the bad html or all the string?
21:08 rangi ah also
21:08 rangi #, fuzzy, c-format
21:08 rangi its fuzzy
21:09 rangi fuzzy strings dont get applied
21:09 conan fuzzy strings...ah!!!
21:09 conan thanks
21:09 conan now I know what to do with all those random english strings  appearing everywhere
21:09 rangi :)
21:11 conan can I tell translate script to just install a file?
21:12 rangi and that email right there from paul, negates all of the bs about biblibre being like liblime
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21:15 Space_Librarian morning #koha
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21:15 cait hi Space_Librarian :)
21:16 Space_Librarian Hey cait!
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21:39 cait good night #koha
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21:43 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6472] HidePatronName no longer works as stated <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6472>
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21:54 rangi hi sijobl
21:58 sijobl hey chrissa
21:58 sijobl hows it?
21:58 rangi fair to middling ;)
21:58 sijobl your colleagues did me proud the other day, I'm now a cacert assurer
21:58 rangi oh sweet
21:58 sijobl waved my passport at random catalyst staff :-)
21:58 rangi hehe
21:59 rangi its the perlmongers geek pub quiz here, next tuesday evening
21:59 rangi
21:59 rangi if the family doesnt have your attention ;)
22:01 sijobl mmm, tuesday evening is dog club night
22:01 sijobl I have sole charge
22:02 rangi ah bummer
22:03 sijobl slightly alarmingly, I knew all but one of the people Matt wheeled in to sign for me
22:03 * sijobl needs to leave town
22:03 rangi heh
22:03 rangi was it all the level 2 people?
22:04 rangi grant, ian etc?
22:04 sijobl yup
22:04 sijobl miroslav, ruthven
22:04 rangi ahh yep
22:04 rangi the old timers :-)
22:04 sijobl ruthven appears to keep his passport at work, so as to make you assure him
22:05 rangi now thats a smart idea
22:05 sijobl certainly seems to be how you get yourself to guru assurer status
22:05 rangi i should get you to sign my gpg key sometime too
22:05 sijobl I should get me a GPG key first
22:06 rangi that too :)
22:06 sijobl I did set it up years ago
22:06 sijobl but I can assure you for cacert, if you want that
22:06 rangi :)
22:06 sijobl although why you'd need me when there's a gazillion otherse at catalyst who can do the job for you
22:07 rangi yeah we have a few now, francois did a talk on it at pizza thursday, that bumped up the numbers i think
22:07 rangi or maybe it wasnt francois, someone did anyway
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22:10 rangi vea sigoi ronald  (I hope thats at least close to one of the languages they speak in the solomons :))
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22:39 conan gotta run now, rangi I'll reply your last mail to koha-translate at home if children let me, I'll like to look further into finding a fine way to share translation development
22:39 conan bye now
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22:57 druthb o/
23:05 rangi heya druthb
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23:23 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6467: Add shelving location to checkin screen <[…]6e429e459800f89dd>
23:25 druthb rangi++
23:25 druthb Thanx for the push, rangi! :)
23:25 rangi np
23:25 rangi im stealing some easy ones out of the signed-off queue as well
23:25 rangi leave sekjal the tricky ones :)
23:26 oleonard Reinstalling koha on my laptop, having trouble with zebra as usual
23:26 druthb :D
23:26 oleonard I've imported MARC records, but zebra doesn't seem to be finding them
23:26 rangi and youve got the cron job running?
23:27 oleonard Right now I'm just trying to do it manually
23:27 jenkins_koha Starting build 282 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:27 rangi ahh
23:28 rangi and zebrasrv is running?
23:28 rangi and is running as the same user, you are rebuilding the indexes with?
23:28 * rangi asks all the simple questions first
23:28 * oleonard doesn't do this often enough to be able to skip the simple questions
23:29 oleonard I guess I'm not certain zebrasrv is running
23:31 oleonard I guess not >:(
23:31 rangi ah ps axf | grep "zebrasrv"
23:31 rangi heh
23:31 rangi that'd do it
23:33 oleonard ...but I'm not sure why not
23:33 rangi you have the init.d job set up ?
23:34 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5268: Change all occurances of 'debar' to 'restrict' <[…]685e2678dc6bd8ef6>
23:34 oleonard I see koha-zebra-daemon in /etc/init.d/
23:34 rangi so sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
23:34 rangi does that do anything?
23:35 oleonard "starting zebra server"
23:36 rangi and then nothing
23:36 eythian does the process actually start?
23:36 rangi ok, can you do me a flavour
23:36 rangi have a look at that file
23:36 oleonard koha-zebra-daemon?
23:36 rangi yep
23:36 oleonard okay
23:37 rangi what USER and GROUP does it have?
23:37 rangi should be up the top
23:37 oleonard koha for both
23:37 rangi and that user exists?
23:37 oleonard Yes
23:37 rangi ok next bit, what does it have for RUNDIR and LOCKDIR
23:38 oleonard RUNDIR=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb
23:38 oleonard LOCKDIR=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb
23:38 rangi user koha has persmissions to both of those?
23:38 rangi persimons
23:38 rangi i hate those things
23:39 rangi persimmon even
23:39 oleonard How do I check these persimmons you speak of ;)
23:40 rangi ls -l home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/run/
23:40 rangi or
23:40 rangi
23:40 rangi :)
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23:41 oleonard drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-05-04 16:10 zebradb
23:41 rangi thats the problem
23:41 rangi chown -R koha:koha /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb
23:42 rangi ditto for the lock
23:42 rangi try running your -r (as user koha of course)
23:42 rangi then starting zebrasrv
23:42 rangi (or other way round, doesnt really matter)
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23:45 rangi heya pianohacker
23:45 pianohacker hey chris
23:48 oleonard Thanks chris, it looks like it's working now
23:48 rangi perfecto
23:48 rangi go have a persimmon now ;)
23:48 oleonard There should be a "had to ask how to get zebra running again" tip jar
23:49 oleonard My grandfather loved persimmons but he could never get his little tree to produce many
23:50 oleonard Hey, search results.
23:53 rangi :)
23:53 rangi i dont like them or quinces
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23:58 oleonard You couldn't buy a persimmon or quince to save your life around here

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