Time Nick Message 03:58 palhmbs hi - found out about koha through OpenHatch - looks like a great project! 03:58 palhmbs I'd like to help you guys add a bug tracker - I think your using bugzilla? 04:31 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6466] hung socket read causes SIP tests to fail <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6466> 04:39 mtj palhmbs: you know of a bug-tracker better than bugzilla? 05:09 mtj palhmbs: aaah - you mean add the Koha bugzilla to the OpenHatch tracker 05:12 mtj OpenHatch++ 05:25 palhmbs yup - the OpenHatch bug tracker tracker :D 05:51 mtj palhmbs: initial Koha bug-trackers added to OpenHatch... 05:53 palhmbs mtj, thanks for that -- that's awesome! 05:53 palhmbs is there a list of current libraries using koha? 05:54 * palhmbs would love to see some usage stats 05:59 palhmbs nm - found it, very impressive too! 06:09 palhmbs thanks again - ttyl! 06:18 cait hi #koha 06:20 Oak hello cait :) 06:20 Oak in Berlin? 06:20 cait not yet 06:21 cait leaving for the train station in 15 minutes :) 06:21 Oak ah 06:21 Oak have a safe journey 06:29 Ropuch Morning #koha 06:31 alex_a hi #koha 06:32 cait thx Oak :) 06:32 cait hi Ropuch and alex_a 06:36 julian hi #koha 06:36 cait hi julian 06:37 cait bye all :) 06:43 reiveune hello 06:43 wahanui que tal, reiveune 06:44 reiveune salut lds 06:44 lds salut reiveune 06:44 lds comment vas 06:44 reiveune bien, et toi, on te revoie quand ici ? 06:44 lds c'est à déterminer 06:45 reiveune ok, mais à part ça, ça va ? lds ? 06:45 lds oui tranquille, j'entretient mon potager :-) 06:45 reiveune cool 06:49 paul_p hello world 06:49 paul_p reiveune & lds : you're on #koha -english speaking- channel ;-) 06:50 lds paul_p: my apologies 06:50 paul_p ;-) 06:50 reiveune paul_p: my apologies 06:50 reiveune :P 06:50 lds reiveune: I grow my tomatoes 06:50 reiveune lds : how are you ? 06:51 lds in my garden 06:51 lds :-D 06:51 reiveune :-D 06:59 magnuse kia ora #koha 06:59 alex_a bonjour magnuse 07:00 magnuse hi alex_a 07:00 magnuse bonjour clrh 07:00 clrh hello magnuse and all 07:07 rangi evening 07:07 magnuse ata marie rangi 07:18 Oak ok, so we know rangi, I know ata, who is marie? 07:19 magnuse 10th from the top: http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/Maori/TeReoKete/ 07:22 * Oak bookmarks the page 07:22 Oak Ata Marie magnuse ! 07:23 magnuse ata marie Oak 07:24 Oak Whakarongo, E noho, and Turituri 07:24 Oak fun :) 07:27 Oak i'll say that Brooke when she comes here... 07:27 Oak to* 07:28 magnuse hehe 07:30 Oak :) 07:41 francharb morning all 07:41 magnuse bonjour francharb 07:41 Oak Haere Mai 07:53 miguel hi all 07:53 Oak Haere Mai 07:53 magnuse hi miguel 08:14 magnuse @wunder boo 08:15 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (9:50 AM CEST on June 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 08:15 magnuse i'd simply call it "a beautiful day"... 08:29 Oak @wunder islamabad 08:29 huginn` Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 40.0�C (1:00 PM PKT on June 06, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 08:30 Oak excellent 08:30 magnuse ooh, that's hot! 08:30 Oak you think 08:30 Oak :) 08:30 magnuse hot and dry! 08:33 Oak it's actually cooler today. these days it's normally 45�C 08:33 magnuse wow 08:33 * Oak drinks water again 08:33 magnuse sounds like a good idea! ;-) 08:33 Oak aaah 08:33 Oak :) 08:34 Oak and we only have fans in our home. no air conditioning ! 08:35 magnuse hm 08:52 Ropuch @wunder Wroclaw 08:52 huginn` Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is 26.0�C (10:30 AM CEST on June 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 09:17 slef @seen gmcharlt 09:17 huginn` slef: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 2 days, 20 hours, 41 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> @quote add <oleonard> That's why I'm the only one with a flying car. I just didn't figure anyone else would be interested. 09:18 rangi slef: how far away from brighton are you? 09:18 rangi slef++ #good email 09:18 slef @later tell gmcharlt please please please can we either fix wiki sending confirmation emails or switch off email validation requirement? bug 6326 is really hurting us (see dpavlin on koha-devel) 09:18 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded. 09:18 slef rangi: about 4h 09:19 rangi ah righto 09:19 slef rangi: I forked your git-bz fork. How receptive is the maintainer to pull requests? 09:19 slef rangi: why about brighton? 09:20 rangi slef: ill pull :) but i sent a patch upstream ... silence 09:20 rangi worth trying again 09:20 rangi and brighton is where the catalyst UK offices are 09:20 slef you or me? 09:21 slef oic. Brighton is the only UK place with a green MP 09:21 rangi (staffed with all nzers on their OE currently :)) 09:21 rangi yeah one of them was over sounds like a nice place 09:22 rangi i just thought if it was close and you thought it would be a good idea, id try and get you all to meet sometime, they arent doing any koha work but lots of drupal, moodle and mahara 09:24 slef OE? 09:25 rangi Overseas Experience 09:25 rangi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_experience 09:28 mib_sun hi koha 09:31 slef hi mib_sun 09:31 mib_sun slef: In koha can I keep the book price in different currency format?? 09:33 mib_sun for eg. some books have the price in US dollar, some others in pound, and indian rupees 09:34 cait1 hi #koha 09:35 mib_sun when I am using a symbol in the 'Cost, normal purchase price' field it is saving as 0.00 09:39 slef mib_sun: In general, administration: currencies and I think whatever has exchange rate 1.00 is the default, and that is what the book price should be stored in. I think this could be done better, but most book data isn't very clean with this, so the incentive isn't great. 09:39 slef I suspect we should support a three-letter currency code and then a price, but I've not seen book data like that yet. 09:42 rangi hi cait1, on the train? 09:43 cait1 yep, finally 09:43 cait1 but they cancelled all reservations 09:43 cait1 got a seat and I am very happy about it 09:44 * cait waves to slef 09:45 * slef waves at cait 09:45 * magnuse waves to slef and cait and rangi 09:47 cait :) 09:47 cait god dag magnuse! :) 09:47 magnuse guten tag cait 09:52 druthb o/ 09:52 magnuse \o 09:52 rangi hi druthb 09:53 druthb hi, magnus and rangi! :) 09:54 Oak Haere Mai druthb 09:55 magnuse hiya druthb 09:55 druthb :) 09:56 * druthb is feelin' the love this mornin'. 09:56 mib_sun ya slef. then to store the book price I have to convert the price to a currency format I have set in , isn't it? but it is very difficult.. 10:08 cait hi druthb :) 10:12 rangi cait: will you eat a Pfannkuchen in berlin? 10:17 cait I can try 10:18 rangi heh 10:19 cait but I think it's the same you can get elsewhere as berliner 10:19 rangi yep 10:20 rangi but because its berlin, they dont call them that 10:21 cait after I missed out on the pain au chocolat... least I can do is eat a pfannkuchen 10:36 magnuse cait: and go back to france to get some pain au chocolate... ;-) 10:37 cait sounds like a good plan 10:37 magnuse :-) 10:57 * magnuse wanders outside to have lunch in the sun 11:00 Oak \o 11:03 druthb o/ 11:03 Oak WhÄnau 11:39 Oak Haere Mai WhÄnau 11:58 cait hmpf 12:04 Oak Haere Mai cait 12:04 Oak Whakarongo, e noho, and turituri. 12:05 cait hi Oak 12:05 * cait waves from the train 12:05 cait ? 12:05 Oak when you get back check this out: http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/Maori/TeReoKete/ 12:06 Oak and pull your hand inside from the window. it's dangerous 12:07 druthb lol 12:07 Oak :) 12:07 * druthb better watch out....Oak is feelin' sassy today. 12:07 Oak hehe 12:08 cait :) 12:09 * cait likes a sassy Oak 12:09 cait but no open windows in this train, trying to freeze us with aircon 12:09 Oak oh well 12:10 Oak ah, so that's why you looked blue 12:11 Oak i thought it was some new shade of blush on 12:11 Oak i think that's what it's called 12:11 druthb hm....a blue blush....I wonder if my cosmetics store has that. They might; the gothy punk kids go there. 12:12 magnuse hehe 12:12 Oak :) 12:13 cait hehe 12:14 magnuse kia ora NateC and oleonard 12:14 oleonard Hi 12:14 NateC Morning! 12:14 NateC or Afternoon! 12:14 NateC or Evening! 12:14 NateC :) 12:14 * cait waves 12:19 Oak stop waving cait. that guy sitting opposite is looking at you suspiciously 12:20 cait ok 12:20 * cait stops and tries to act normal 12:20 Oak pfft, like that will work 12:20 cait hehe 12:21 cait no, probably not 12:21 Oak :) 12:25 * druthb likes seeing a sassy, happy Oak, too. 12:26 * cait suspects that acting normal makes her even more suspicious... 12:26 cait what shall I do? 12:27 Oak okay cait, go ahead, start waving at people again 12:28 Oak well druthb , I can't kill bugs (no Perl skills at present). so I might as well cheer people up whenever I can... 12:28 druthb :) 12:33 Oak nah not people. friends! 12:34 Oak kind of. 12:34 magnuse family! 12:34 Oak yes! 12:35 * cait waves slowly 12:35 druthb :D 12:35 cait hm 12:35 cait I think this is a lost case 12:35 Oak yes cait, now you just look like a sick smurf 12:35 Oak waving slowly 12:36 Oak you know smurf right? 12:36 Oak they were blue 12:37 cait hmpf! 12:37 * cait blames Oak 12:39 Oak :) so how long before you reach home? 12:45 cait schlümpfe 12:45 Oak yes, blue schl�mpfe 12:46 magnuse ooh, that does not sound nice! 12:46 magnuse what schl�mpfe = smurf? 12:46 Oak that's what translate.google.com said 12:46 cait :) 12:47 magnuse and google images agrees 12:49 cait yep 12:49 cait I had a smurf house and smurfs to play wiht... must still be somewhere in the attic 12:49 cait Oak: on my way to bibliothekartag now - I think it will about 5 pm, 2 more hours 12:50 Oak hmm i see 12:52 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6464] Add inconsistence check for '%s' count in tmpl_process3.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6464> / [Bug 6291] Cart printing truncated in Firefox <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6291> 13:15 cait back 13:17 Oak oh good 13:18 Oak aren't you tired? 13:19 Oak oh you meant back after disconnecting 13:21 cait yes :) 13:21 cait and tired - yes 13:22 magnuse how long is the trip? 13:22 Oak ~90 more minutes... I guess 13:23 cait right 13:23 cait but isn't it late where you are? 13:23 Oak nah, 18:30 13:24 Brooke kia ora 13:24 sekjal morning, #koha 13:24 druthb hi, Brooke. :) 13:24 Oak Oh hello Brooke. Whakarongo, e noho, and turituri. 13:25 Brooke :D 13:25 magnuse hiya Brooke 13:26 Oak cait, electricity here will go out from 19:00 to 20:00 13:30 Oak i was just kidding Brooke you don't have to turituri. 13:30 Brooke hehehe 13:30 Brooke who knows 13:30 Brooke maybe you were ready to recite an epic. 13:30 Oak hehe 13:30 Oak lol 13:32 druthb wahanui: who is Brooke's sugar mama? 13:32 wahanui it has been said that Brooke's sugar mama is druthb. 13:32 druthb lol 13:32 druthb what I get for buying her ice cream, I guess. 13:33 Brooke you're awful. 13:33 druthb :P 13:33 Brooke it was his *standard* gig. 13:33 druthb Oh, I'm sure. And being in Dupont, I'm sure he gets to use it a lot. 13:36 Brooke 0/ 13:39 Oak hmm, looks like e.t.'s head turned 90� 13:40 oleonard Janusz is going to town on T:T fixes. 13:40 Brooke sweet 13:44 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6468] Authorities browsing error in OPAC <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6468> 13:45 wizzyrea @quote get 123 13:45 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 13:46 * cait waves again 13:46 oleonard is today particularly quote #123ish wizzyrea ? 13:46 * Oak waves to cait 13:47 wizzyrea hehe yea 13:47 Oak passing through tunnels cait ? 13:48 cait no, connection in tunnels ispretty good most of the time 13:48 Oak hm 13:48 * cait waves at wizzyrea 13:49 * wizzyrea waves at Cait 13:49 wizzyrea hiya! 13:54 magnuse o/ 14:08 * druthb waves at wizzyrea and cait and Oak and magnuse. Doesn't she look silly doing that? 14:08 magnuse nah 14:08 cait would say you fit in 14:17 Brooke yes 14:17 Brooke fit in is perfectly fine 14:17 Brooke ARGH! 14:17 Brooke not a question 14:17 wizzyrea forget fit in 14:17 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot fit in 14:18 Brooke 0/ 14:33 cait hi Brooke :) 14:34 Brooke :) 14:34 cait t 14:44 wizzyrea imagemagick-- 15:01 cait berlin! 15:08 * druthb waves to rhcl 15:09 rhcl hihi 15:12 rhcl Harmony Bay Gourmet Blueberry Cobbler seasonal coffee is quite good, despite my penchant for plain old good quality black coffee. 15:15 reiveune bye 15:24 rhcl wizzyrea: we need a SMUG or OSDUG for Koha 15:25 * druthb hasn't heard of SMUG in a couple of years...wow 15:26 rhcl Well, it is gone, right, and has been for a couple of years? 15:26 rhcl I think the last I heard was they were disbanding, but maybe I'm wrong. 15:26 druthb I don't know. It's been a while since I talked to Barbara Cornelius. I know they stopped having conferences a couple years ago. 15:27 rhcl Koha needs more conferences. 15:27 SteveJ *shudder* Not more conferences! 15:28 Brooke no, no it does not 15:28 Brooke I would concede to more unconferences 15:28 rhcl does so 15:28 Brooke and meetups 15:28 Brooke and ad hoc friends getting together thingies 15:28 druthb unconferences++ 15:28 Brooke I mean let's be honest here 15:29 rhcl ? 15:29 Brooke we're really just looking for an avenue to 15:29 Brooke A) drink 15:29 Brooke and B) bribe developers into making stuff for us 15:29 Brooke so 15:29 Brooke doesn't quite require a conference every time :P 15:29 * druthb chooses A, having nothing useful to bribe developers with. 15:30 SteveJ IMO, I would rather see more at existing conferences than entirely separate conferences, such as get togethers at SLA and ALA. I suspect there are a lot of us that are heavily involved in Koha but cannot go to a separate conference for it. 15:32 Brooke KohaCon registration = $0 15:32 Brooke KohaCon content = priceless 15:32 Brooke ALA registration = a left nut 15:32 Brooke ALA content = I could have read this. 15:32 rhcl Well, I always liked going to the SMUG and OSDUG conferences. And $15 for a lunch box was worth it. 15:32 oleonard KohaCon transportation and expenses = the other nut 15:32 SteveJ heh, so true in mana ways 15:33 SteveJ Though the real value of ALA is in the divisions, not the main conference 15:33 Brooke owen: true but it's someplace you want to visit, and it's generally not the wrong time of year. 15:34 rhcl Noting, of course, that those were regional events typically attended via auto and not subject to the great discomforts of the airlines and the gauntlet. 15:34 Brooke and if you're local, lucky you. 15:35 SteveJ Maybe we could hold one in Phoenix in August, that is a pretty good time and location for me! 15:35 rhcl I'm in! 15:35 sekjal more regional Koha unconferences sounds good to me. Local folks getting together, sharing ideas. support companies would do well to send representatives to help 15:35 rhcl and money for amenities -jk 15:36 rhcl The Laura Linda Library was really impressive. 15:38 Brooke o/ 15:39 rhcl correction, Linda Hall http://www.lindahall.org/ 15:42 Brooke ASI has a pretty good breakdown for its regional activities 15:42 Brooke and the frequency isn't uber frequent 15:42 Brooke nosiness also helps 15:43 Brooke if you see a familiar domain come over the listserv 15:43 Brooke folks should feel like they can say hi and not be bit :) 15:43 Brooke as long as there's a flow, it's a good thing 15:44 Brooke I would just hate to see things start to edge towards silod 15:46 wizzyrea anyone else get a nan% when trying to batch edit in current master? 15:47 Brooke someone's twitter eventually linked to this and it's well worth a look. http://www.mikealrogers.com/post/on-meetups 15:52 wizzyrea is cait allowed 15:52 wizzyrea er 15:52 wizzyrea here 15:52 wizzyrea lol 15:52 wizzyrea cait's always allowed 15:54 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6470] Unable to filter out actions made by kohaadmin <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6470> 16:03 skushner Yes, more east coast conferences...or any, would be nice! 16:05 Brooke I offered a couple times 16:05 * Brooke could offer again. 16:05 Brooke DC should be easy enough for most folks. 16:07 druthb DC_koha_unconference_and_hackfest++ 16:18 wizzyrea am I understanding correctly that we should be replacing $template->param('something' => 'something'); with $template->{VARS}->{'something'} 16:18 wizzyrea or only in certain situations 16:19 oleonard Oh no, I was wrong all along! Ours is the fork and Liblime's is the real Koha! 16:21 wizzyrea sigh 16:21 wizzyrea don't feed the troll. 16:22 cait wizzyrea: I think only in if conditions it's necessary 16:25 wizzyrea i know rangi said that there was a helper script to deal with those 16:25 wizzyrea but what I'm wondering is 16:25 wizzyrea if it's *better* to get rid of them anywhere they stand 16:25 wizzyrea as a matter of cleanup 17:27 * Oak waves 17:27 Brooke 0/ 17:28 Oak Kia ora :) 17:29 Oak Haere Mai cait 17:29 Brooke :) 17:30 cait hi :) 17:30 Oak hello 17:30 Oak E moe cait 17:30 Oak must be tired, no? 17:30 cait sometime you have to translate that for me :) 17:30 cait it's not that late 17:30 cait 19:35 17:31 cait about to leave and find something for dinner :) 17:31 Oak http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/Maori/TeReoKete/ that's all I know cait 17:32 cait_away :) 17:32 cait_away have to go, ttyl :) 17:33 Oak ok 17:33 Brooke :) 17:33 Oak she's too kind 17:33 Brooke http://www.maoridictionary.co.nz/ 17:34 Brooke http://www.korero.maori.nz/forlearners/basics/index.html 17:34 Brooke then there's Chris' Da's book, of course. 17:35 Oak Ehara mai! 17:35 Brooke :D 17:47 rhcl_away wish translate.google.com did maori 18:01 rangi morning 18:01 rhcl_away hey rangi 18:01 oleonard Hi rangi 18:09 oleonard Working on anything fun lately rangi? 18:09 rangi gotta a go live on friday 18:09 rangi thats taking up most of my time 18:09 rangi but i am working on this too 18:09 Brooke morena 18:09 oleonard A Koha library? 18:10 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=5549&hide_resolved=1 18:10 rangi yup, 3 prominent govt organisations using Koha as a shared solution 18:11 Brooke :) 18:11 Brooke good on Catalyst, as usual. 18:12 rangi oh and its hmm 15 days 18:12 rangi until i fly out to the states 18:13 rangi my pocket is already $14usd lighter, you now have to pay to apply for a visa waiver, using the online form 18:13 rangi guess what the legislation that introduced the charge is called 18:13 rangi the 'Travel Promotion Act' 18:13 oleonard US government is so messed up 18:13 rangi orwell couldnt write it better :) 18:14 rangi but thats ok, i get to hang out with some of my koha friends 18:14 Brooke I once again apologise for the actions of the rowdy group of men down the street. 18:14 wizzyrea rowdy doesn't even begin 18:15 * oleonard would happily buy rangi $14+ worth of beer if he could 18:15 * wizzyrea contemplated shipping it to his hotel :P 18:15 wizzyrea but it's difficult to ship beer out of kansas. 18:17 rangi i think bg is making some!!! 18:18 * magnuse is pretty sure there was something he wanted to ask rangi about, but now he can't remember. lucky rangi... 18:18 rangi heh 18:20 rangi new zealand koha 18:21 magnuse ah yes now i remember, we talked about a link/button for downloading backups and configfiles in the packages, but i couldn't find it... 18:22 rangi ahh, its not in the main repo, because of that reason, it only works with the packages 18:22 magnuse ah, ok, it's not me going blind then ;-) 18:22 rangi but we are working on wrapping it with a syspref that the packages set, so that it can be 18:22 magnuse very cool 18:23 rangi its in the catalyst repo tho, i can get eythian to show you if you like 18:23 magnuse thanks, but there's no hurry 18:23 rangi righto 18:23 magnuse plenty of other things i *ought* to do first... 18:25 rangi :) 18:26 rangi someone has last word syndrome, so i think we would be best served to disengage 18:26 magnuse hehe 18:26 rangi we all have better things to do 18:26 Brooke I submit that we're just having a battle of wits with an unarmed person. 18:26 rangi and in the scheme of things it doesnt matter 18:27 rangi haters gonna hate 18:27 rhcl_away we need to stock rangi up w/ some bacon, as I recall us talking about it. Couple of cases of Sam Adams and a good case of Armor Star premium bacon... 18:27 rangi hehe, cant bring bacon back 18:28 rhcl_away even fully cured, in sealed packages? 18:28 Brooke oh no 18:28 rangi hmmm maybe in sealed 18:28 Brooke customs beagles would have a field day, methinks. 18:28 rangi but i wouldnt rate my chances 18:29 rhcl_away well, commercially sealed like in the store? 18:29 wizzyrea yea, don't feed the trolls. 18:29 rhcl_away give the beagles some Gains Burgers, they'll let it slide 18:29 Brooke >:) 18:29 Brooke I like the cut of your jib, homie g laws. 18:31 magnuse those border control people were pretty serious about keeping strange edibles out of nz, i think... 18:32 rangi yeah, all food has to be declared 18:33 rangi normally they take anything primaryish (like bacon, honey, meat) off ya 18:33 rhcl_away daem foreign heathen food, corrupts the virtues of the native young 18:33 magnuse hehe 18:36 magnuse ouch... needs signoff = 73 18:36 rangi dang we had it near 66 for a little while 18:36 rangi a bunch are easy pickings 18:37 rangi TT ones 18:41 conan hello everybody, good afternoon 18:41 Brooke hi 18:42 magnuse hola conan 18:53 oleonard The latest patch on Bug 5436 doesn't apply for me 18:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements 18:53 rangi yeah its failed qa oleonard 18:53 oleonard Oh I didn't notice. I thought you were asking for testers. 18:54 rangi unfortunately nope 18:55 rangi ok time to feed the kids and make lunches 18:55 rangi bbiab 18:56 wizzyrea git-bz++ 18:57 * magnuse must get around to testing that one of these days... 19:18 magnuse g'night #koha 19:26 conan what's the protocol for .po changes inclusion? do we manage the same way as code bugs? 19:26 conan I mean, create a bug report, attach patch, etc? 19:27 conan can't find anything in the wiki 19:27 Brooke 0/ 19:28 cait conan: do your changes on translate.koha-community.org 19:29 cait it will be pulled from there into the repo 19:29 cait if you need your files updated - write fredericd 19:30 Brooke o/ 19:30 cait :) 19:30 cait hi Brooke 19:30 Brooke I've been here, I was saying hi to Ccorrales ;) 19:30 conan cait: my changes are not translations, but fixes to unappropriate number of %s's 19:30 cait there are scripts that do create those files and are used for updating 19:31 conan it's too cumbersome to find them in translate.koha... 19:31 cait ah 19:31 cait you can upload a file 19:31 cait ask fredericd to give you permission 19:31 cait upload and overwrite what's in there 19:31 cait I do that too, grab the file, correct errors in poedit (which is good for finding them!) and upload back to pootle 19:32 cait or did you mean the en side of things? 19:32 conan cait: I've been looking for him since a couple of days now, are you telling me this kind of stuff doesn't get managed with bugzilla? 19:32 cait correct 19:32 cait write him an email 19:32 cait or write to translate-koha list 19:33 conan cait: my issues arose when I tried to do a spanish install for 3.4.x, I didn't downloaded anything from the translating site 19:33 cait hope i understood your problem correctly 19:33 cait ah 19:33 cait perhaps try again with the file from pootle 19:33 cait you can wget the po files from there 19:33 cait I normally always get a fresh copy, because I update them all the time, fix typos and such 19:34 conan just tried to do an install and translate script spitted some unclear error, so I started to look into it and with help from here I noticed the problem were the %s 19:34 cait before a release the updated files will be integrated into koha 19:34 conan so I fixed those 19:34 conan but I don't know what to do next 19:34 cait ok 19:34 cait you fixed in the translated strings? 19:34 conan nope... 19:34 conan well., one or two 19:34 conan but the main fixing was in the %s's 19:35 conan fredericd: you around? 19:35 rangi back 19:35 cait conan 19:35 Brooke welcome back 19:35 cait the %s you fixed, where there in the en strings or in your translated strings 19:35 conan cait: 19:35 cait where = were 19:36 cait did you fix the po files or the scripts creating them? 19:36 conan rangi: your kids eat fast 19:36 conan cait: po file 19:36 conan s 19:36 cait ok, this is not managed via bugzilla 19:37 conan cait: the %s were broken mostly for the translated strings, but there were also a couple in the english strings too 19:37 cait and in the po files, you did change the %s in the translated strings? 19:37 rangi I get them breakfast, then make lunches and then my wife takes over 19:37 conan good 19:37 conan so, what's the protocol then? 19:38 cait honestly 19:38 conan cait: translated and untranslated 19:38 cait I am confused 19:38 conan cait: let me paste you a git log -p 19:38 cait for the things you fixed in the translated strings: upload back to pootle 19:38 conan gimme a second... 19:38 rangi email koha-translate 19:38 cait for the things fixed in the en part - those need to be corrected in the template files or the script needs changes 19:38 cait for the script > bugzilla 19:38 cait for the templates > bugzilla 19:39 cait do what rangi says 19:39 rangi and/or fredericd, some ppl have been fixing things with %s already 19:39 rangi be good not to double up 19:41 rangi wizzyrea: u around? 19:41 rangi did u forget to change the status of bug 6467 ? 19:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6467 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Add shelving location to checkin results screen 19:42 pastebot "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "3 commits modifying es-ES po files" (294 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/75 19:42 conan there 19:43 rangi psst, translate list :) 19:44 conan rangi: that's what I was asking, thanks, writing them now 19:49 rangi cool 19:54 rangi ok my stop 19:54 rangi back soon 20:04 rangi back 20:04 cait :) 20:12 rangi wizzyrea++ 20:12 wizzyrea oh for fixing the bug? 20:12 wizzyrea >.> 20:12 rangi yup 20:12 wizzyrea it's important to note that git bz doesn't do that bit for you :P 20:13 wizzyrea damn shame, imo 20:13 * cait cait_afk 20:13 rangi well we are the only ppl in thw world probably who use those fields 20:13 wizzyrea truf 20:13 rangi but, no reason why we cant make it for us 20:13 wizzyrea something like git bz attach -s [for signoff] xxxx HEAD 20:14 rangi something like that 20:14 cait_afk t 20:14 cait_afk hm 20:14 cait_afk afk 20:24 Brooke right, time to do other forms of nothing. 20:24 rangi :) 21:02 conan what could be the reason that I got a string translated in the .po file but it's not applied to the pointed file? 21:03 rangi the .po file doesnt match, thats one possibile reason 21:03 rangi ie the .po file hasnt been updated from the templates recently 21:05 conan but it correctly points to the right line number in the 'en' file 21:06 conan it's the 'es' file which gets screwed 21:06 pastebot "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "translation inconsistence" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/76 21:06 sekjal goodnight, #koha! 21:06 conan sekjal: bye 21:07 rangi no idea 21:07 rangi ah yes i do 21:07 rangi look at hte strings 21:07 rangi <a1>Retrasos</a> 21:08 rangi theres no <a1>Overdues</a> bit in the english srting 21:08 conan it's the a1, right? 21:08 rangi thats my guess 21:08 conan but it's the bad html or all the string? 21:08 rangi ah also 21:08 rangi #, fuzzy, c-format 21:08 rangi its fuzzy 21:09 rangi fuzzy strings dont get applied 21:09 conan fuzzy strings...ah!!! 21:09 conan thanks 21:09 conan now I know what to do with all those random english strings appearing everywhere 21:09 rangi :) 21:11 conan can I tell translate script to just install a file? 21:12 rangi and that email right there from paul, negates all of the bs about biblibre being like liblime 21:15 Space_Librarian morning #koha 21:15 cait hi Space_Librarian :) 21:16 Space_Librarian Hey cait! 21:39 cait good night #koha 21:43 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6472] HidePatronName no longer works as stated <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6472> 21:54 rangi hi sijobl 21:58 sijobl hey chrissa 21:58 sijobl hows it? 21:58 rangi fair to middling ;) 21:58 sijobl your colleagues did me proud the other day, I'm now a cacert assurer 21:58 rangi oh sweet 21:58 sijobl waved my passport at random catalyst staff :-) 21:58 rangi hehe 21:59 rangi its the perlmongers geek pub quiz here, next tuesday evening 21:59 rangi http://wellington.pm.org/ 21:59 rangi if the family doesnt have your attention ;) 22:01 sijobl mmm, tuesday evening is dog club night 22:01 sijobl I have sole charge 22:02 rangi ah bummer 22:03 sijobl slightly alarmingly, I knew all but one of the people Matt wheeled in to sign for me 22:03 * sijobl needs to leave town 22:03 rangi heh 22:03 rangi was it all the level 2 people? 22:04 rangi grant, ian etc? 22:04 sijobl yup 22:04 sijobl miroslav, ruthven 22:04 rangi ahh yep 22:04 rangi the old timers :-) 22:04 sijobl ruthven appears to keep his passport at work, so as to make you assure him 22:05 rangi now thats a smart idea 22:05 sijobl certainly seems to be how you get yourself to guru assurer status 22:05 rangi i should get you to sign my gpg key sometime too 22:05 sijobl I should get me a GPG key first 22:06 rangi that too :) 22:06 sijobl I did set it up years ago 22:06 sijobl but I can assure you for cacert, if you want that 22:06 rangi :) 22:06 sijobl although why you'd need me when there's a gazillion otherse at catalyst who can do the job for you 22:07 rangi yeah we have a few now, francois did a talk on it at pizza thursday, that bumped up the numbers i think 22:07 rangi or maybe it wasnt francois, someone did anyway 22:10 rangi vea sigoi ronald (I hope thats at least close to one of the languages they speak in the solomons :)) 22:39 conan gotta run now, rangi I'll reply your last mail to koha-translate at home if children let me, I'll like to look further into finding a fine way to share translation development 22:39 conan bye now 22:57 druthb o/ 23:05 rangi heya druthb 23:23 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6467: Add shelving location to checkin screen <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=414880167c40eed1b2e3dce6e429e459800f89dd> 23:25 druthb rangi++ 23:25 druthb Thanx for the push, rangi! :) 23:25 rangi np 23:25 rangi im stealing some easy ones out of the signed-off queue as well 23:25 rangi leave sekjal the tricky ones :) 23:26 oleonard Reinstalling koha on my laptop, having trouble with zebra as usual 23:26 druthb :D 23:26 oleonard I've imported MARC records, but zebra doesn't seem to be finding them 23:26 rangi and youve got the cron job running? 23:27 oleonard Right now I'm just trying to do it manually 23:27 jenkins_koha Starting build 282 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:27 rangi ahh 23:28 rangi and zebrasrv is running? 23:28 rangi and is running as the same user, you are rebuilding the indexes with? 23:28 * rangi asks all the simple questions first 23:28 * oleonard doesn't do this often enough to be able to skip the simple questions 23:29 oleonard I guess I'm not certain zebrasrv is running 23:31 oleonard I guess not >:( 23:31 rangi ah ps axf | grep "zebrasrv" 23:31 rangi heh 23:31 rangi that'd do it 23:33 oleonard ...but I'm not sure why not 23:33 rangi you have the init.d job set up ? 23:34 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5268: Change all occurances of 'debar' to 'restrict' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=54d42771258681762b659a2685e2678dc6bd8ef6> 23:34 oleonard I see koha-zebra-daemon in /etc/init.d/ 23:34 rangi so sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start 23:34 rangi does that do anything? 23:35 oleonard "starting zebra server" 23:36 rangi and then nothing 23:36 eythian does the process actually start? 23:36 rangi ok, can you do me a flavour 23:36 rangi have a look at that file 23:36 oleonard koha-zebra-daemon? 23:36 rangi yep 23:36 oleonard okay 23:37 rangi what USER and GROUP does it have? 23:37 rangi should be up the top 23:37 oleonard koha for both 23:37 rangi and that user exists? 23:37 oleonard Yes 23:37 rangi ok next bit, what does it have for RUNDIR and LOCKDIR 23:38 oleonard RUNDIR=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb 23:38 oleonard LOCKDIR=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb 23:38 rangi user koha has persmissions to both of those? 23:38 rangi persimons 23:38 rangi i hate those things 23:39 rangi persimmon even 23:39 oleonard How do I check these persimmons you speak of ;) 23:40 rangi ls -l home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/run/ 23:40 rangi or 23:40 rangi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persimmon 23:40 rangi :) 23:41 oleonard drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-05-04 16:10 zebradb 23:41 rangi thats the problem 23:41 rangi chown -R koha:koha /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb 23:42 rangi ditto for the lock 23:42 rangi try running your rebuild_zebra.pl -r (as user koha of course) 23:42 rangi then starting zebrasrv 23:42 rangi (or other way round, doesnt really matter) 23:45 rangi heya pianohacker 23:45 pianohacker hey chris 23:48 oleonard Thanks chris, it looks like it's working now 23:48 rangi perfecto 23:48 rangi go have a persimmon now ;) 23:48 oleonard There should be a "had to ask how to get zebra running again" tip jar 23:49 oleonard My grandfather loved persimmons but he could never get his little tree to produce many 23:50 oleonard Hey, search results. 23:53 rangi :) 23:53 rangi i dont like them or quinces 23:58 oleonard You couldn't buy a persimmon or quince to save your life around here