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itym \m/ |
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Renae |
hello can u help with my koha install |
| 01:39 |
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Renae |
im using ubuntu 11.4 |
| 01:41 |
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Renae |
also using the setup koha in virt environ on wiki |
| 01:42 |
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Renae |
when i get to the line about gpg it says 'no valid OpenPgP data found. |
| 01:43 |
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eythian |
did you copy-and-paste the line from the wiki? |
| 01:43 |
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Renae |
yes |
| 01:43 |
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eythian |
hmm, can you paste into the channel what you have? |
| 01:43 |
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Renae |
yes |
| 01:43 |
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Renae |
motwl ubuntu:~$ $ wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add - $: command not found gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. |
| 01:44 |
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eythian |
don't include the '$' at the start |
| 01:44 |
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eythian |
that's just saying "this is a command that you enter" |
| 01:47 |
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Renae |
ok it is working now must of copied the $ from the wiki |
| 01:47 |
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eythian |
cool :) |
| 01:51 |
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Renae |
ok it is not going back to the $ this is the paste |
| 01:51 |
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Renae |
motwlubuntu:~$ wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add - [sudo] password for motwl: --2011-05-23 11:50:00-- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc Resolving debian.koha-community.org... 64.57.244.203 Connecting to debian.koha-community.org|64.57.244.203|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK |
| 01:51 |
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* druthb |
is making her fat cat get some exercise. |
| 01:51 |
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druthb |
laser_pointers++ |
| 01:52 |
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eythian |
Renae: try pressing enter, that looks like it was all OK |
| 01:52 |
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eythian |
oh wait |
| 01:52 |
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eythian |
hmm, let me try... |
| 01:52 |
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eythian |
I think there should be more. |
| 01:52 |
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eythian |
oh, type your password and press enter |
| 01:52 |
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Renae |
ok it appears ok now |
| 01:53 |
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eythian |
there's something that's change in Ubuntu 11.04 that makes this not work so well as it used to. |
| 01:54 |
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Renae |
yes I guessed that as i installed on mav before |
| 02:00 |
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Renae |
hi can u help me with this part of the install this is the paste |
| 02:00 |
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Renae |
his is the fully-qualified host name of the computer running │ │ nullmailer. It defaults to the literal name 'me'. │ │ │ │ Mailname of your system: │ │ |
| 02:01 |
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Renae |
configuring nullmailer |
| 02:02 |
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Renae |
it has 'mail of your system' as ubuntu is this correct |
| 02:02 |
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Renae |
that should be 'mailname' |
| 02:03 |
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eythian |
I tend to just install postfix. |
| 02:03 |
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eythian |
but, I'd put it as the mailname of the system, |
| 02:03 |
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eythian |
so what domain mail should expect to be coming from. |
| 02:03 |
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Renae |
the system being ubuntu or linux im a novice |
| 02:03 |
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eythian |
I'm not sure how much it matters, and it's easy to change if it turns out that it does |
| 02:04 |
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eythian |
You could just leave it as default |
| 02:04 |
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Renae |
ok it wont upset anything else will it |
| 02:05 |
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Renae |
ok it has gone to anther screen this is the paste |
| 02:05 |
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Renae |
This is a colon-separated list of remote servers to which to send each │ │ message. Each entry contains a remote host name or address followed by │ │ an optional protocol string 'host protocol'. The protocol name defaults │ │ to smtp, and may be followed by command-line arguments for that module. │ │ |
| 02:06 |
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eythian |
you're going to need to find out what address your mailserver has, and set that there. |
| 02:07 |
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Renae |
would this be the one with my service provider or can i use my 'live' one |
| 02:08 |
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druthb |
eythian++ #wicked-slick scripting-fu |
| 02:09 |
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Renae |
ive got ingoing as pop3 and out smtp which would be the one to use |
| 02:09 |
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eythian |
you need your SMTP server. You should use whatever it is you normally use to send email though |
| 02:10 |
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Renae |
do i use the ingoing or outgoing one |
| 02:11 |
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eythian |
outgoing is SMTP. It's for Koha to send mail |
| 02:12 |
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Renae |
ok i hve used my outgoing one smtp.people.net.au |
| 02:12 |
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Renae |
is this right |
| 02:13 |
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eythian |
I don't know, but it looks like it might be. |
| 02:13 |
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Renae |
is fixable later if i need to change it |
| 02:13 |
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eythian |
yep |
| 02:14 |
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eythian |
'sudo dpkg-reconfigure nullmailer' will ask the questions again. |
| 02:14 |
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Renae |
thank you |
| 02:17 |
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Renae |
ok im on the last bit where it says create or replace sudo vi /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf if i wanted to replace what would be the best thing to replace it with |
| 02:17 |
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Renae |
or would it be best to leave as is |
| 02:18 |
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eythian |
it means "if it's already there, replace it, otherwise create it" |
| 02:18 |
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Renae |
oh ok |
| 02:18 |
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eythian |
so, you probably want to create it. I can't remember if it's there by default. |
| 02:19 |
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Renae |
it is saying 'new file' |
| 02:19 |
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eythian |
yep, so create it |
| 02:19 |
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Renae |
so i just cut and paste the bit in the wiki at the top of this |
| 02:20 |
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Renae |
it has left alot of empty lines with ~ on it |
| 02:20 |
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eythian |
yeah. If you don't know how to use vim, remember to press 'i' first |
| 02:20 |
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eythian |
'~' means empty |
| 02:20 |
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Renae |
ok |
| 02:21 |
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Renae |
i don't know how to use vim so i press i then paste after |
| 02:22 |
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eythian |
yeah. then edit the bits you need to. |
| 02:22 |
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eythian |
vim is unusual if you don't know it |
| 02:22 |
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eythian |
when you're don, press esc, then ':wq' followed by enter to save and quit |
| 02:23 |
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Renae |
ok this is what i have |
| 02:23 |
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Renae |
i DOMAIN="" INTRAPORT="80" INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="admin" DEFAULTSQL="/usr/share/koha/defaults.sql.gz" ~ ~ ~ |
| 02:23 |
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Renae |
is this right |
| 02:24 |
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eythian |
the i shouldn't actually be there |
| 02:24 |
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Renae |
well where does the i go |
| 02:24 |
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eythian |
nowhere, it's a button to tell vim to start editing |
| 02:27 |
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Renae |
i think i buggered it i pressed the backspace and now ive got a row 'a's |
| 02:27 |
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Renae |
i cant get the i out |
| 02:27 |
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Renae |
can i do this part again |
| 02:27 |
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eythian |
heh, try this: press escape :q! enter |
| 02:28 |
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eythian |
then do the same command again, but instead of using 'vi' use 'nano' |
| 02:30 |
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Renae |
now it says recording |
| 02:31 |
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eythian |
press escape and then :q |
| 02:31 |
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eythian |
don't forget the ':' this time :) |
| 02:31 |
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eythian |
(and then enter) |
| 02:31 |
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eythian |
and then press :q! enter |
| 02:32 |
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eythian |
with the ':' too |
| 02:32 |
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Renae |
ok im back |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
vool, no try that again but use nano rather than vi |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
*cool |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
*now |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
I need to learn to type |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
nano should be easier to use. |
| 02:33 |
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Renae |
ok |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
just remember in the help at the bottom where it says '^' that means 'press control' |
| 02:36 |
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Renae |
ok i hve pasted it into nano how do i save it or do i just exit |
| 02:36 |
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eythian |
press the button for save |
| 02:36 |
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Renae |
i can't see a save button |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
Oh, it calls it 'WriteOut' |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
(there is a boring technical reason for that) |
| 02:37 |
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Renae |
ok so it is control o |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
jup |
| 02:38 |
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Renae |
ok it says wrote 6 lines does that mean it is saved |
| 02:38 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 02:39 |
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Renae |
now i just exit right |
| 02:39 |
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eythian |
yep |
| 02:39 |
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eythian |
(assuming you've filled out the bits you need in there, btw) |
| 02:40 |
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Renae |
well i just copied and pasted the wiki |
| 02:40 |
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eythian |
oh OK, that's fine |
| 02:41 |
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Renae |
ok so i can just go to the next bit on the wiki and paste it in |
| 02:41 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 02:44 |
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Renae |
ok this is what i hve done is this correct |
| 02:44 |
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Renae |
motwlubuntu:~$ sudo a2enmod rewrite Enabling module rewrite. Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' to activate new configuration! motwlubuntu:~$ sudo a2dissite 000-default Site default disabled. Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 reload' to activate new configuration! motwlubuntu:~$ sudo koha-create --create-db koha Koha instance is empty, no staff user created. Enablin |
| 02:45 |
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Renae |
Enabling site koha. Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 reload' to activate new configuration! * Restarting web server apache2 ... waiting ...done. Starting Zebra server for koha |
| 02:50 |
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eythian |
OK, that all looks normal |
| 02:50 |
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Renae |
ok thanks |
| 02:56 |
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Renae |
ok im having trouble again with the password, first of all it wont open the file second when i click the link in the wiki for the kohaadmin site this is what i get |
| 02:56 |
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Renae |
Server not found Firefox can't find the server at kohaadmin. Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of www.example.com If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. If your computer or netwo |
| 02:56 |
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* druthb |
heads to bed...early! |
| 02:56 |
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* druthb |
waves |
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| 02:58 |
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eythian |
Renae: what do you mean "with the password"? |
| 02:59 |
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Renae |
well i went to get the password from the etc.koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml and it wont open |
| 02:59 |
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Renae |
in firefox or notepad |
| 03:00 |
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eythian |
it won't, you need to use nano like before |
| 03:01 |
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Renae |
ok |
| 03:03 |
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Renae |
this is what it shows |
| 03:03 |
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Renae |
!-- BIBLIOGRAPHIC RECORDS --> <server id="biblioserver" listenref="biblioserver"> <directory>/var/lib/koha/koha/biblios</directory> <config>/etc/koha/sites/koha/zebra-biblios.cfg</config> <cql2rpn>/etc/koha/zebradb/pqf.properties</cql2rpn> <retrievalinfo> <retrieval syntax="usmarc" name="F"/> <retrieval syntax="usmarc" name="B" |
| 03:03 |
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eythian |
go to the bottom, |
| 03:05 |
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Renae |
<retrieval syntax="xml" name="F"/> <retrieval syntax="xml" name="B"/> <retrieval syntax="xml" name="marcxml"<yazgfs> is this the part |
| 03:06 |
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Renae |
yazgfs |
| 03:07 |
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eythian |
no, it's at the bottom. Scroll down |
| 03:07 |
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eythian |
you're looking for: |
| 03:07 |
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eythian |
<user>kohauser</user> |
| 03:07 |
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eythian |
<pass>kohapassword</pass> |
| 03:09 |
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Renae |
<ccl2rpn>/etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties</ccl2rpn> <user>kohauser</user> <password>aeyohkee</password> </serverinfo> this one |
| 03:09 |
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eythian |
yes |
| 03:09 |
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eythian |
although I hope this isn't going to be a production system, as you've just pasted your password to the world :) |
| 03:10 |
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Renae |
ok shit |
| 03:10 |
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Renae |
can i change it |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
that depends on how well you understand mysql. |
| 03:11 |
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Renae |
not much at all |
| 03:11 |
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Renae |
i stll cant get onto the koha admin site yet anyway |
| 03:12 |
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Renae |
i had this problem before could not resolve it i had hoped with a fresh install it would work |
| 03:13 |
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eythian |
oh right, yeah. You need to set up your hosts entry, which is in the instructions back a bit further. |
| 03:14 |
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Renae |
the sudo desktop and desktop hosts entry section |
| 03:15 |
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eythian |
no, it's just above that |
| 03:15 |
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eythian |
adding to the /etc/hosts file on your desktop machine so that it can see the koha installation in the virtual machine |
| 03:16 |
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eythian |
assuming that this is how you're setting it up |
| 03:18 |
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Renae |
i can't find it which step is it |
| 03:19 |
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eythian |
where it starts with "Then, add an entry to /etc/hosts like this (and skipping ahead, we're adding a kohaadmin and koha entry to be used later): " |
| 03:19 |
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Renae |
im setting up on a stand alone |
| 03:19 |
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eythian |
I don't know what that means |
| 03:22 |
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Renae |
ok i found it, i mean i was advised to run koha on its own computer |
| 03:22 |
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Renae |
do i do all the commands upto the next sect |
| 03:22 |
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eythian |
So are you using virtualbox or not? That makes a huge difference about whether this will work or not. |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
It's reaching the point where you'll need someone who understands how your network is set up to help. Instructions can only take you so far without understanding. |
| 03:25 |
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eythian |
(and I have to go for a while now, too.) |
| 03:25 |
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Renae |
i m not sure this wiki setup was what i was advised to use by Rangi |
| 03:25 |
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eythian |
yeah, that's fine. But are you using virtualbox? |
| 03:25 |
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Renae |
i don't know what that is |
| 03:26 |
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eythian |
oh, I mean the virtual machine manager thing |
| 03:27 |
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Renae |
still don't know what u mean |
| 03:27 |
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eythian |
Well, they're in the instructions. |
| 03:28 |
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eythian |
I'd recommend finding someone who understands networking and servers and stuff, there's only so much that can be done via IRC. And I have to go to the post office now. |
| 03:28 |
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Renae |
ok thank you for your help |
| 03:30 |
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Space_Librarian |
Renae: this gives you an idea of what a virtualbox is http://www.freesoftwaremagazin[…]box_to_run_ubuntu# |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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eythian |
hi cait |
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cait |
hey eythian |
| 05:00 |
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cait |
had a nice weekend? |
| 05:01 |
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eythian |
I did nothing. It was. |
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Space_Librarian |
hey cait. |
| 05:01 |
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cait |
evening Space_Librarian :) |
| 05:01 |
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cait |
eythian: hey, did the same! :) |
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Space_Librarian |
good weekend then? |
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eythian |
cait: ecxcellent! |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
:) |
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eythian |
-x |
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eythian |
err |
| 05:01 |
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eythian |
-c |
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cait |
and how was monday? any unpleasant surprises to expect? |
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eythian |
nope. |
| 05:03 |
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eythian |
It's pretty normal really. |
| 05:03 |
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Space_Librarian |
seems pretty quiet... |
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cait |
quiet sounds great |
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alex_a |
hello #koha |
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eythian |
hallo |
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clrh |
hi |
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wahanui |
hey, clrh |
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julian |
hi #koha |
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paul_p |
good morning #Ç©oha ! |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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francharb |
hello all |
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kf |
bonjour francharb :) |
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francharb |
:) |
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francharb |
how was your week end, kf? |
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matts |
'morning #koha |
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kf |
nice and quiet |
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kf |
and yours? |
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wahanui |
yours is universal |
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kf |
hi matts :) |
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kf |
wahanui: forget yours |
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wahanui |
kf: I forgot yours |
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francharb |
kf: mine was restful |
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francharb |
and i needed it! ;) |
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kf |
same here :) |
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paul_p |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi paul_p :) |
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glernil |
mabuhay! |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6070] On a new order defined from suggestion some fields were missing. <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6070> |
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rangi |
evening |
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kf |
hi rangi |
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kf |
how was the weekend? |
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kf |
sekjal: around? |
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rangi |
good, how was yours? |
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kf |
nice and quiet |
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paul_p |
hi rangi. |
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rangi |
hiya paul_p |
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SpaceLibrarian_home |
hey rangi, restful weekend? |
| 09:07 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for bug 6367 - 'Preview MARC' hover button does not show correct MARC record <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f9f0628f4cb4dd7c0> |
| 09:07 |
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rangi |
yeah was good to have some time away from koha for a bit |
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SpaceLibrarian_home |
I can imagine. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 254 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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kf |
paul_p: perhaps i was too fast now |
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kf |
are you workign on 6268? |
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paul_p |
kf, yes i am |
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kf |
ok :) |
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SpaceLibrarian_home |
night #koha. I'll see you on the other side. :) |
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kf |
night SpaceLibrarian_home |
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* SpaceLibrarian_home |
waves |
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rangi |
cya tomorrow SpaceLibrarian_home |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6268] Bad Total in basket.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6268> |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #254: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/254/ |
| 09:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
Owen Leonard: Fix for bug 6367 - 'Preview MARC' hover button does not show correct MARC record |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6367 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , 'Preview MARC' hover button does not show correct MARC record |
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rangi |
hey druthb |
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kf |
hi druthb :) |
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druthb |
hi! :) |
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kf |
silent monday |
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is going to sleep |
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kf |
good night! :) |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
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magnuse |
@wunder tos |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Tromso, Norway is 12.0�C (12:50 PM CEST on May 23, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
so i translated all of the opac for nb-NO in Lokalize, and uploaded to Pootle. it seems all conflicts are now marked as fuzzy - do i have to click through all of them in pootle to make them not fuzzy, or is there a better way? |
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magnuse |
fredericd around? |
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kf |
magnuse: did you merge or overload? |
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kf |
I think when you don't merge but replace the file it should probably not happen that it marks things fuzzy |
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magnuse |
kf: i chose the first option |
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magnuse |
it's displayed in norwegian... |
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kf |
ah, not sure about norwegian, but you can change that in your account |
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kf |
your preferred language for the interface |
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magnuse |
yup |
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magnuse |
english says "Merge the file with the current file and turn conflicts into suggestions" |
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magnuse |
not "Add all new translations as suggestions" (second option) |
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* druthb |
waves to magnuse. |
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magnuse |
\o |
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magnuse |
seems there will be a lot of suggestions either way... |
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magnuse |
i assume suggestion = fuzzy |
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magnuse |
maybe i need some more rights to avoid creating suggestions? |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5877] Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5877> |
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conan |
hi all |
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jwagner |
hi conan |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6388] Broken pager images in branch_transfer_limits.tt <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6388> / [Bug 6066] itemtype when ordering and item-level_itype=no <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6066> |
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Oak |
\o |
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Oak |
hiya druthb :) |
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druthb |
Hi, Oak! |
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Oak |
how are you today? |
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druthb |
doing well. :) |
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Oak |
good. |
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paul_p |
hello américa(s) ! |
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paul_p |
good morning |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5658] can't delete subfields in frameworks <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5658> |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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oleonard |
paul_p++ # for Bugzilla work |
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paul_p |
hi oleonard & good morning |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6388] Broken pager images in branch_transfer_limits.tt <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6388> / [Bug 6389] Administration menu like Tools menu <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6389> |
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kf |
paul_p: about 6066 - perhaps a unimarc/marc21 problem? |
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paul_p |
kf, good idea, maybe that's it. If you still notice the problem, could you add the perl error ? That may help |
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paul_p |
mmm... thinking of it I don't think so, because I tested with a MARC21 setup in fact ! |
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paul_p |
(but well, if you still see a Perl error, pls report it) |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
the perl error is not realted to that feature |
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kf |
you always get an error when you try to save without itemtype |
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kf |
at least in master with item level itypes |
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kf |
that's why I didn't noted the error - it's the normal buggy behaviour :P |
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kf |
paul_p: with biblio level itypes - you don#t have an itemtype stored in the item at all? or is it copied from biblio level to item level? |
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paul_p |
kf no itemtype in items |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
look at 4955 |
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kf |
bug 4955 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4955 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , adding to basket with no item throws error |
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kf |
that's what I am talking about. when I did some tests with master yesterday it still happened. you get a perl error but the order is created |
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JesseM |
G'morning All !! |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6115] Acquisition reports : date filter & sorting don't work <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6115> |
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paul_p |
kf, I think you're right, it maybe because the item is 100% empty (thus it's not related to the patch, it's related to another bug) |
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* paul_p |
stop working on bugzilla for today. working on some customer requests... |
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* paul_p |
hopes working again on bugzilla tomorrow (my) morning ! |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
paul_p++ |
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kf |
paul_p: I will try to retest tonight - will tell you what I see on the bug :) |
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kf |
paul_p: a minute for an acq question? |
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paul_p |
kf, let's try ! |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
my library is complaining about the baskets view on vendors |
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kf |
because they can only see their own baskets |
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kf |
we have individual logins and a student worker helping out |
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kf |
I am not sure it's good the way it's now and which way to resolve it |
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kf |
you see all baskets when you are superlibrarian, but only your own with normal acq permissions |
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kf |
show all and make it possible to limit on only the ones you did, is a permission needed, because there is a reason for not showing them |
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kf |
and so on |
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oleonard |
fredericd++ # for correcting my patch to Bug 6364 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6364 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Display of item availability broken on OPAC detail screen |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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oleonard |
Hi gmcharlt |
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kf |
hi gmcharlt |
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kf |
paul_p: scared you away? I hope not :) |
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paul_p |
oups, sorry, you didn't wrote my name, so had no warning ;-) |
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paul_p |
'morning gmcharlt |
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kf |
ah, sorry! |
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paul_p |
kf: I don't understand where/if there is a question... |
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paul_p |
(I understand the problem though, and I agree with it) |
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paul_p |
but we can't change the behaviour, otherwise other libraries will complain... |
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kf |
I wondered if it's a bug - nobody wants it that way |
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kf |
or a feature |
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kf |
and which way the problem coudl be best resolved |
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paul_p |
We have libraries that want it that way. |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
but what do they do when one librarian is on vacation? |
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kf |
or do they use only general logins? |
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paul_p |
well, I think we should have 3 levels : * see all, * see my library, * see mine only |
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paul_p |
kf when a librarian is on vacation, the next order wait until the librarian is back from vacation ;-) |
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kf |
hehe I might disagree on this assumption :) |
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paul_p |
that could be a new permission imo |
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kf |
hm |
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paul_p |
(kf: that's how the library do it, i don't know if it's a good idea !) |
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kf |
the question is, are they really not allowed to see...or is it for convenience? |
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kf |
in my library they don't do it this way .P |
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paul_p |
I agree we could improve the workflow though ! |
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kf |
ok |
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paul_p |
some of our libraries have librarians doing orders for their branch only. In this case, they don't want and should not be able to see others baskets ! |
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kf |
I just tested something - when i search for the vendor using the search bar (not the vendor search) I see all baskets |
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kf |
so if it should be a permission, there is a problem now |
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paul_p |
some of our libraries have librarians ordering by budget (history/geography/...), all to the same bookseller. Same notice |
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paul_p |
s/same notice/same conclusion/ |
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kf |
hm, no, I gave me back my superlibrarian too early |
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paul_p |
kf, you're probably right, that's an inconsistency ! |
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kf |
let me test again |
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paul_p |
ok, so you're not right maybe ;-) |
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kf |
no, it's consistent |
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kf |
sorry ) |
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kf |
ok, so what do I need to do to make this work for my library and yours? |
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paul_p |
some money to sponsor an improvement ? :D :D |
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paul_p |
(kidding) |
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paul_p |
I think it's worth asking the question on koha ML : how to solve this problem and have everybody happy with the behaviour ? |
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paul_p |
my suggestion is a first suggestion, maybe someone will have another idea ! |
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kf |
not sure how hard it is to do more permissions |
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kf |
I will file a bug first |
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kf |
paul_p: small addition, when I search by title - I can go from the title to the basket |
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kf |
vendor search is consistent from every angle, but if you go by library to the basket directly you can se it |
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kf |
bug 6390 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Basket only visible for librarian who created it |
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rhcl |
wizzyrea: can you kick rhcl1? |
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druthb |
Two of you might be one too many, rhcl. |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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* kf |
waves to wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
hi kf :) |
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kf |
hi hdl :) |
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hdl |
hi kf |
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hdl |
going back home |
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kf |
me to |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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wizzyrea |
wb cait :) |
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cait |
hi liz :) |
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wizzyrea |
does this report do what I think it does, get the issues (title, barcode) for patrons of that branch? |
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wizzyrea |
select borrowers.firstname, borrowers.surname, borrowers.address, biblio.title, items.barcode from borrowers join issues USING(borrowernumber) join items using(itemnumber) join biblio using(biblionumber) where borrowers.zipcode = '66868' and borrowers.branchcode ='OSAGECITY' |
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wizzyrea |
one of my libraries has patrons in Reading, KS which was hit by a tornado this weekend |
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wizzyrea |
they want to know what's out to patrons who live there |
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druthb |
wizzyrea: that'll get one issuer per patron. you want to select on issues, JOIN borrowers. |
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wizzyrea |
k ii'll try that |
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wizzyrea |
ruth: fyi, both ways gives the same results |
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druthb |
eeeenteresting. |
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wizzyrea |
34 things, either way (and same things) |
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druthb |
select count(*) borrowers left join issues using (borrowernumber) where itemnumber is not null; If it returns 34, then you're dead-on...and there are 34 borrowers out there with one item each. (Which sounds wrong...) |
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wizzyrea |
hrm that says syntax error, but fwiw it is listing 34 issues, some to the same patron |
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druthb |
creepy.... |
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wizzyrea |
one lady has 5 things checked out |
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wizzyrea |
another 4, and so on |
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wizzyrea |
oh you forgot your "from' |
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druthb |
ah. |
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wizzyrea |
but this: select count(*) from borrowers left join issues using (borrowernumber) where itemnumber is not null and borrowers.zipcode = '66868' and borrowers.branchcode = 'OSAGECITY' gives 34 :) |
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wizzyrea |
ty for helping me verify :) |
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druthb |
:) |
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druthb |
you betcha. :) |
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cait |
druthb++ and wizzyrea++ |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
hi Brooke |
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Brooke |
howdy |
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wahanui |
hey, Brooke |
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druthb |
hi, Brooke! :) |
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cait |
Brooke? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that Brooke is deprecated |
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Brooke |
:) |
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cait |
! |
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druthb |
druthb? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... druthb is blogging irregularly at http://librarygeekgirl.net |
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Brooke |
that's not good enough at all |
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Oak |
oh hi Brooke :) |
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Brooke |
:D |
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* druthb |
fears what Brooke will say. |
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* Brooke |
would rather be <3d than feared. |
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cait |
Brooke? |
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wahanui |
Brooke is deprecated |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
Brooke_? |
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wahanui |
somebody said Brooke_ was sweet, even though she tells us she's not. |
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Oak |
don't you feel loved? |
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Brooke |
by you guys, of course. |
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* druthb |
<3s Brooke, but fears what she will say. |
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cait |
about? |
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Brooke |
I concur |
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Oak |
that's a common thing with people you love what they "think" and "say" |
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Brooke |
about? |
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* Brooke |
highfives Oak. |
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Oak |
you keep wondering about such things |
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Oak |
:) |
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Brooke |
you're skipping the border for KohaCon, right? |
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Oak |
no money :| |
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Oak |
but someday i'll be in a KohaCon ... I hope :) |
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Oak |
give you guys real hugs |
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Oak |
not guys |
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Oak |
uh oh |
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cait |
it's ok Oak ;) |
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Brooke |
guys is perfectly fine |
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Oak |
ok then |
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conan |
if this 'git branch -r | grep 6328' gives nothing, means that all patches pertaining to bug 6328 are already in master? |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6328 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Fine in days does not work |
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cait |
conan: they ar enot |
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cait |
in master I mean |
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conan |
then where are they? |
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cait |
chris notes on the bug once he pushed something, they are waiting for the qa manger's sign off |
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conan |
but why there's no branch then? |
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cait |
there is not always a branch |
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cait |
the patches are on the bug |
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cait |
attached |
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conan |
oh |
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conan |
well, I guess it the same |
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conan |
just wanted to not miss anything |
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cait |
yeah, you can build your own :) |
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conan |
of course |
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conan |
what does mean the scratched text on the links on the comments? |
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cait |
sorry? |
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Brooke |
welcome back owen |
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oleonard |
conan: If the bug number has a line through it the bug it references has been closed |
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cait |
hi owen |
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cait |
hehe |
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conan |
there are a bunch of attachments in the comments, but only 4 patches up, on the attachment table at the beginning, also some attachements in the comments appear with scratched text |
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conan |
oleonard: not the bug number, but an attachment |
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cait |
yeah, those are replaced by other files |
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oleonard |
conan: Those attachments have been marked as obsolete |
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conan |
ah, so I must ignore those |
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conan |
so I should only apply the patches from the table at the beginning? or I must search in the comments too? |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
all attachements are listed in the table above |
| 17:22 |
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cait |
but reading through the bug will give you more explanation |
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conan |
ok, I'm set then |
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conan |
I read everything twice, just didn't want to miss a patch |
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conan |
I need to apply that modifications |
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conan |
later and thanks |
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Oak |
night |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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library_systems_guy |
hey is oleonard around? |
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Brooke |
he was shortly. |
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Brooke |
message im |
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library_systems_guy |
will do |
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oleonard |
Here |
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oleonard |
library_systems_guy? |
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wahanui |
library_systems_guy is, like, missing the build new reports section |
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wizzyrea |
forget library_systems_guy |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot library_systems_guy |
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library_systems_guy |
lol thanks wizzyrea |
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library_systems_guy |
hey oleonard |
| 18:03 |
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wahanui |
oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler |
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wizzyrea |
library_systems_guy is <reply) |
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wizzyrea |
library_systems_guy is <reply> |
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wizzyrea |
library_systems_guy? |
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wahanui |
library_systems_guy is, like, <reply) |
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wizzyrea |
forget library_systems_guy |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot library_systems_guy |
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library_systems_guy |
forget library_systems_guy |
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wizzyrea |
library_systems_guy is <reply> |
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cait |
back |
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wizzyrea |
library_systems_guy? |
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wizzyrea |
there we go |
| 18:04 |
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library_systems_guy |
I have a UI question for you oleonard |
| 18:05 |
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library_systems_guy |
that i just answered myself i think |
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oleonard |
That's the way I roll. |
| 18:05 |
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* library_systems_guy |
has gone crazy in the css |
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library_systems_guy |
how much damage do you see happening if i take out the 10px margin for doc3 in the YUI lib oleonard |
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slef |
Does the US call borrowed items charged items? |
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wizzyrea |
checkouts |
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slef |
I can see "too many items charged" as a status message |
| 18:08 |
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slef |
but "too many items billed" is another one |
| 18:08 |
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slef |
so I'm wondering what the difference is |
| 18:08 |
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wizzyrea |
oh my |
| 18:08 |
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slef |
not in Koha, don't worry |
| 18:09 |
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slef |
http://www.abc-clio.com/ODLIS/odlis_c.aspx#charge |
| 18:09 |
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slef |
yeah I think I'm right |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
and I thought my library english was quite ok |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Does your library do digital materials through OverDrive? |
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library_systems_guy |
oleonard, is there a reason that all if the content in the opac isn't surrounded by the yui-main div? |
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oleonard |
Sorry library_systems_guy, was just getting asked questions irl about OD. |
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Brooke |
slef: I've seen charged, too. Wanna say the old DRA was charged. |
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cait |
I think all is surrounded by bd, perhaps |
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oleonard |
I don't know offhand about the doc3 margin, other than that you'll have to make other corrections |
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library_systems_guy |
oh its cool oleonard...rl always gets in the way lol |
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* cait |
looked at it yesterday but the yui things are still a bit of a riddle |
| 18:15 |
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library_systems_guy |
i would just override it in the custom CSS but for some reason the reset grid keeps getting applied after the custom opac css |
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oleonard |
library_systems_guy: The structure of the OPAC followed the guidelines for the YUI CSS grids which siad that "yui-main" was for main content only. |
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* library_systems_guy |
has always been frustrated by yui |
| 18:16 |
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library_systems_guy |
right right but its not around all of the main content |
| 18:16 |
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library_systems_guy |
like advsearch for example |
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oleonard |
The advsearch page looks like an omission |
| 18:17 |
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oleonard |
in that regard |
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library_systems_guy |
intentional? |
| 18:17 |
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oleonard |
Not that I can recall |
| 18:18 |
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library_systems_guy |
ok so it would be fine to add it in? |
| 18:18 |
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oleonard |
But the functional purpose of the "main" id is to have it paired with other classes to create sidebars |
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oleonard |
...so it may have simply seemed extraneous |
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library_systems_guy |
right...i guess what i am going to use it for is sizing main content |
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oleonard |
I have no problem with you adding it back in if you're looking for a standard hook for something |
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library_systems_guy |
id like it to only be 75% of the page width while keeping the header at 100% |
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oleonard |
Have you played with this? http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/ |
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library_systems_guy |
i haven't...i assume that is where the reset grid got build |
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oleonard |
The reset is separate from the grid |
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library_systems_guy |
i have used YUI before |
| 18:21 |
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oleonard |
That link is just for building grids. It might help you understand the structures |
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library_systems_guy |
ok thanks |
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Brooke |
Mr. Obama on Éireann's fine soil brings a tear to me wee eye. |
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slef |
O'bama |
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Brooke |
aye :D |
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Brooke |
there was a Brit in Chicago that did the genealogy on the candidates back then long before our media |
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Brooke |
ripped Palin a nice one for being so blue blooded. |
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Brooke |
it was funny to see em both related. |
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Brooke |
aristocracy = aristocracy, I suppose. |
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Brooke |
speaking of, I've scandalous Tudors episodes from Netflix to catch up on >:) |
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magnuse |
i'm in Alta to promote koha at a library conference: http://goo.gl/maps/HtHh has koha ever been promoted this far north, i wonder? ;-) |
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gmcharlt |
magnuse: if it was, not in many other places :) |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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library_systems_guy |
yeah you really can't market it much higher than that...unless santa is interested |
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magnuse |
hm, now that you mention it... ;-) |
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cait |
librarian elves? |
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* jwagner |
is puzzled -- cait is looking for Elves? |
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cait |
magnuse is looking for santa... |
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cait |
the elves seemed appropriate |
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jwagner |
Ah. I was envisioning the Tolkein sort of elves.... |
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magnuse |
librarian elves? sure! |
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magnuse |
santa must have a cool (pun intended!) library, right? |
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magnuse |
books on how to make all sorts of things... |
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cait |
toys |
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oleonard |
...the manual for every toy ever |
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magnuse |
yup |
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jwagner |
not to mention The Book (of who's been naughty and who's been nice) |
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jwagner |
That one probably requires superlibrarian access |
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* cait |
wonders what santa thinks about ebooks |
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jwagner |
He's probably in favor -- must lighten the load a lot |
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wizzyrea |
I imagine he contracts with amazon for delivery :P |
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library_systems_guy |
super shipper discount |
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wizzyrea |
digital delivery ;) |
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library_systems_guy |
so i just realized that i forgot to set up zebra during my install...and when i tried to add it to the daemon it fails saying it is unable to read the symlinked file |
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wizzyrea |
permissions? |
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library_systems_guy |
where should i set them? |
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wizzyrea |
you want to have the user who is running zebra have ownership |
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library_systems_guy |
i guess i should have asked that instead of giving my story :p |
| 19:47 |
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wizzyrea |
so if you are, for example, running zebra as your Koha user, 'koha' should own it |
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library_systems_guy |
but if i was running update-rd.d as sudo then it should have worked right? |
| 19:48 |
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library_systems_guy |
so koha owns the linked file |
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library_systems_guy |
and root obviously owns the file that is linked in init.d |
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library_systems_guy |
just tried to open the linked file in emacs but i get an error that says the file exists but can't be read...i think i just got told by a text editor "Well There's Your Problem..." |
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cait |
ugh |
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cait |
someone can do math around here? |
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rangi |
wahanui can |
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wahanui |
rangi: i'm not following you... |
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cait |
I order 10 books, each is 10.25 and I get 10% discount frmo the vendor |
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cait |
what is the total |
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cait |
i have to pay? |
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cait |
I always end up with something like 92,25 |
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library_systems_guy |
thats what i got... |
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library_systems_guy |
maybe i can't do math either |
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cait |
ok |
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rangi |
10 * 10.25 * .9 |
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wahanui |
92.25 |
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cait |
so why doeskoha suggest 92,20 before I applied paul's patch |
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library_systems_guy |
(10*10.25)*.9 |
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wahanui |
92.25 |
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cait |
and 92,10 after? |
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cait |
replace my commas by decimal points |
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cait |
and morning rangi |
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magnuse |
sounds like some kind of rounding thingy? |
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rangi |
not sure but they are both wrong |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
funny |
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cait |
I added a new order |
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cait |
and on the order entry screen it had 92.25 |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
but in the basket table it has a different value |
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* cait |
wants to cry |
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cait |
an acquisitioon module that can't do math |
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cait |
my world is shattered |
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rhcl |
a good programmer should have the makefile import lisp to do math for koha. Lisp is really good at math. |
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library_systems_guy |
only because it is a language based on recursion :p |
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rhcl |
in the olden days I knew professors that would actually use lisp to solve equations like a calculator |
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library_systems_guy |
i still have a professor that does |
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rhcl |
well |
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cait |
ok guessing |
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library_systems_guy |
and he always has to bring up how it can handle large numbers better than other languages |
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rangi |
perl does math fine |
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rangi |
its not the tools |
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cait |
it calculates the 10% for a single item |
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cait |
rounds |
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cait |
and multiplies |
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rangi |
its the person who used them |
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cait |
but it's still cary |
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cait |
crazy |
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rhcl |
perl is toooo haaarrrd |
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library_systems_guy |
lol im glad your said that rangi |
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cait |
because, the javascript on the form does it obviously different then what is saved to the database |
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rangi |
yep most of the acq bugs are in js |
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cait |
hm no |
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cait |
according to the math we did |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
the js is right |
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rangi |
lol at perl is hard |
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cait |
hm? |
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rangi |
just something rhcl said |
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library_systems_guy |
isn't there a way to stop perl from casting until you are done? |
| 20:14 |
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rangi |
yes |
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cait |
i thik the problem might be that we store the numbers badly |
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library_systems_guy |
by done i mean done processing the floating point number |
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rangi |
and it wont round unless you make it either |
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cait |
we have different data types for amounts in that tables |
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rangi |
like I said, its something we did |
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library_systems_guy |
that is what i thought...but i thought cait was implying the contrary |
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cait |
some have more decimals than others... only sayin |
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cait |
g |
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library_systems_guy |
oh so we didn't specify how log the float was? |
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library_systems_guy |
long* |
| 20:16 |
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rangi |
its most likely we tell it to round, before it should |
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* library_systems_guy |
agrees with rangi |
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rangi |
library_systems_guy: cait is talking db |
| 20:16 |
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rangi |
not perl |
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library_systems_guy |
yeah i got that |
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library_systems_guy |
so im sure its just set to float in the db |
| 20:17 |
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rangi |
and for the above example we dont get lower than 2 dp anyway |
| 20:17 |
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rangi |
its not that |
| 20:17 |
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rangi |
its just our math is dumb |
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library_systems_guy |
lol |
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library_systems_guy |
fair enough |
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rangi |
always go for easy solutions first |
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library_systems_guy |
user error :p |
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rangi |
programmer error |
| 20:18 |
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library_systems_guy |
aww i thought it was easier to assume the user did it (im totally kidding btw) |
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cait |
hmpf. burned my nice example |
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rangi |
thats an easy blame |
| 20:19 |
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rangi |
not an easy solution :) |
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rhcl |
Occam's razor |
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library_systems_guy |
i know, rangi you remind me of my favorite CS professor |
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rangi |
if the user can do it, then its the programmers fault anyway |
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rangi |
:) |
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library_systems_guy |
haha agreed |
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cait |
ok, I am sure it said 92.10 before |
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cait |
not it always says 9.20 |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
92.20 |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
but it doesn't matter, it's still wrong, right? |
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library_systems_guy |
is anybody running debian squeeze yet? |
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rhcl |
we are on our test server |
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library_systems_guy |
had any trouble getting zebra running as a daemon? |
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library_systems_guy |
i just read this http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInit[…]pendencyBasedBoot |
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rhcl |
trying to recall...not sure. We had to mod the makefile to remove something which we had to install manually... |
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library_systems_guy |
hmm |
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rhcl |
sorry, not sure I actuallly provided any real info in that answer |
| 20:26 |
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library_systems_guy |
lol just lots of handwaiving |
| 20:26 |
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library_systems_guy |
its ok though |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
oleonard: still around? |
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cait |
ah. never mind. |
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cait |
2 minutes |
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cait |
nengard is fast |
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rangi |
good answer |
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cait |
nengard++ |
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library_systems_guy |
what log would zebra errors pop up in |
| 20:48 |
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library_systems_guy |
i get error output in the shell since im just running it manually |
| 20:48 |
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library_systems_guy |
but the error is cryptic and i was hoping there would be a better one somewhere else |
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rhcl |
increase levels of verbosity???? |
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library_systems_guy |
is that a flag that i can set? |
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rhcl |
-vvvv |
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library_systems_guy |
that gave me nothing else...blargh zebra |
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rhcl |
I'm all for shooting the zebra. |
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library_systems_guy |
i don't think you are the only one from what i hear |
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rhcl |
I think it's just z39.50 that's the hold up. I'm all for shooting z39.50 too, for that matter. |
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wizzyrea |
can't do that, it's a requirement for grants and such. |
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Space_Librarian |
morning #koha |
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wizzyrea |
mornin Space_Librarian |
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library_systems_guy |
morning Space_Librarian |
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Space_Librarian |
:) |
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cait |
mornig Space_Librarian :) |
| 20:52 |
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Space_Librarian |
evening cait! |
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rhcl |
I think I recall something about Google doing some project or something that would expose the contents of a database that was behind closed doors. |
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library_systems_guy |
and wizzyrea why do you have to kill our fun talks of killing zebra |
| 20:52 |
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wizzyrea |
I didn't say I didn't agree >.> |
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* cait |
likes the zebra |
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cait |
and z39.50 |
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wizzyrea |
just that you can't ditch z39.50 :P |
| 20:53 |
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cait |
and with that said - I shoud really go to bed now :) |
| 20:53 |
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Space_Librarian |
copy cataloguers everywhere would rise up if you tried |
| 20:53 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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library_systems_guy |
sad day |
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cait |
good night #koha |
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Space_Librarian |
night cait |
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rhcl |
night cait |
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library_systems_guy |
night cait |
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rhcl |
Is OCLC to be the Directorate of Edicts for the library world? -or who exactly says that z39.50 shalt be used for grants? I'm not a librarian, but librarians seem to talk a lot about OCLC... |
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wizzyrea |
IMLS |
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rhcl |
IMLS IMLS...off to google.... |
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rhcl |
Ah. Grants. They have the pizza party money. |
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wizzyrea |
basically, if NEKLS were to go onto a system that didn't have z39.50, we wouldn't be compliant with the terms of the grant we got to set it up. |
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wizzyrea |
Which would be bad. |
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Space_Librarian |
indeed it would be. |
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rhcl |
Is z39.50 a technically good way to exchange information? If we were to start something now with no z39.50 memory of existence, what would be better? |
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rangi |
sru/sw is already better |
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rhcl |
http://americanlibrariesmagazi[…]ost-tornado-chaos |
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rhcl |
think this is what I remembered seeing earlier: http://code.google.com/p/oclcs[…]arallelsearching/ |
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Space_Librarian |
te puke library |
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Space_Librarian |
ww, sorry |
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library_systems_guy |
rhcl, did you say you were running squeeze and using zebra as a daemon? |
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library_systems_guy |
or just a manual process? |
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rhcl |
we're running squeeze. |
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library_systems_guy |
and the zebra bit? |
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rhcl |
I think we just ran it once manually. What problems are you having? I can check them here. |
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library_systems_guy |
i get this error when daemonizing the process update-rc.d: error: unable to read /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
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rhcl |
Hang on a bit, I'm doing some checking on our system |
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library_systems_guy |
cool thanks rhcl, im checking something on mine too. Too bad it requires a fresh install...note to self...never chmod -R 777 an entire directory |
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rhcl |
lib_sys_guy: OK, here's what we have in our /etc/init.d As you can see, it's just a link file we created manually. |
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rhcl |
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Aug 3 2010 koha-zebra-daemon -> /home/koha/koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh |
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rhcl |
now you are trying to run zebra differently? |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn` |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 22.3�C (2:54 PM PDT on May 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until midnight PDT tonight... |
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bg |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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huginn` |
bg: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (9:00 AM NZST on May 24, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder lawrence, ks |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 27.8�C (4:55 PM CDT on May 23, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Steady). |
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bg |
kind of hard to have a weather comparison when rangi is going into winter |
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bg |
ouch wizzyrea I'd melt with that temp |
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library_systems_guy |
no thats basically it...i think i might have linked to the script in kohaclone instead of koha-dev |
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rangi |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]stics-out-of-git/ |
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mtj |
heya folks |
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wizzyrea |
a couple of weeks ago it was 33 here |
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wizzyrea |
(no, I"m not kidding) |
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rangi |
hey mtj |
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Space_Librarian |
hey mtj |
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bg |
heya mtj |
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bg |
nice rangi++ |
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wizzyrea |
rangi++ stats are fun |
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mtj |
Top lines changed by employer |
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mtj |
BigBallOfWax99150382.1% |
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rangi |
translations |
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wahanui |
translations are there... And might help stoping the warnings. |
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mtj |
aah, click |
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mtj |
ive been looking at the ptfs/liblime git repo over the weekend, too |
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Space_Librarian |
hey BobB |
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mtj |
some interesting edits, in that repo |
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BobB |
Good morning all |
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mtj |
morning BobB |
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bg |
heya BobB |
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BobB |
Hi bg |
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library_systems_guy |
hey rhcl just went back and redid everything and this is what i get when i try and update the rc.d "insserv: warning: script 'koha-zebra-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides" |
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bg |
hiya hankbank |
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library_systems_guy |
maybe somebody can correct me. I have a lot of records on another server running Koha. All I should have to do is move the DB to the newly created server after installing Koha and reindex to have all my bib records searchable correct? |
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hankbank |
aloha bg |
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bg |
yes that is what you'd need to do |
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library_systems_guy |
anything that im leaving out? |
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bg |
don't think so |
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library_systems_guy |
because i still can't see anything in my search results |
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bg |
try "ps aux | grep zebra" |
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library_systems_guy |
i get a daemon process and a self started process |
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bg |
try searching zebra from the command line |
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bg |
heya pianohacker |
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library_systems_guy |
umm i've never done that |
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bg |
heh |
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pianohacker |
Hallo |
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library_systems_guy |
do you have a quick reference guide lol |
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* bg |
is trying to remember how to get in ther |
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bg |
hey pianohcaker |
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bg |
damn |
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bg |
pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
pianocaker |
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pianohacker |
I actually like that one :) |
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bg |
do you remember how to search zebra from the commandline |
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bg |
heh :) lol |
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pianohacker |
Hrm |
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pianohacker |
oh, right, yaz-client |
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bg |
right |
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library_systems_guy |
o_0 |
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gmcharlt |
@attr 1=4 pianocaker |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: I suck |
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gmcharlt |
huginn`: clearly we need to teach you z39.50 |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: I suck |
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gmcharlt |
huginn`: you don't get off that easily! |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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gmcharlt |
... |
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gmcharlt |
touche |
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bg |
HA |
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bg |
pianocaker++ :) |
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rangi |
wb NateC |
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pianohacker |
hi natec, rangi |
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NateC |
Hi rangi, pianohacker |
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bg |
heya NateC |
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rangi |
hiya collum_ |
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rhcl is now known as rhcl_away |
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library_systems_guy |
ok so I figured out what the issue was for anybody who is still around that I was talking to earlier |
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bg |
? |
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Space_Librarian |
is this your zebra problem? |
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library_systems_guy |
i had to completely reindex and clear all existing indexes |
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library_systems_guy |
yeah it is |
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bg |
ah -r ? |
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library_systems_guy |
with 101K records it took awhile |
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library_systems_guy |
actually i did -b -x -v -reset |
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library_systems_guy |
so yeah i guess -r would do it |
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bg |
:) |
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library_systems_guy |
now back to the CSS theming :) |
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library_systems_guy |
does anybody think it would be cool if Koha-community.org offered a demo section of all the places that use Koha |
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bg |
what do you mean? a map of everyone that uses koha? |
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library_systems_guy |
because i think it would be fantastic...but thats just me |
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library_systems_guy |
well a map+link to their Koha implementation |
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library_systems_guy |
im sure a map exists |
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bg |
yeah maps exists |
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bg |
I was thinking of creating a CSS-clearhousing kind of thing |
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bg |
but haven't come up with the best way to do it |
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library_systems_guy |
what do you mean by clearhousing? |
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pianohacker |
(my crazy dream as far as CSS goes is to have a customization interface for the OPAC and staff side built into Koha, but that could be a while) |
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bg |
where you could look or copy anyones CSS (that contributed) |
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library_systems_guy |
omg that is what cait and I were talking about this weekend |
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bg |
yeah a customization interface would be great.. like adding widgets or something |
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library_systems_guy |
but kind of geared more toward theming |
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library_systems_guy |
well while we are dreaming why not just make it all drag and drop |
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bg |
yeah I've challenged my systems guy larryb to come up with something for a CSS-clearinghouse |
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bg |
but he's got a lot on his plate at the moment :) |
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bg |
something like css.koha-community.org |
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library_systems_guy |
oh yeah that would be cool |
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library_systems_guy |
larryb...is that larry from bywater? |
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bg |
yup |
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library_systems_guy |
im sorry, Im kind of new so i don't know a lot of the alias to rl conversions lol |
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library_systems_guy |
Larry is new isn't he? |
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bg |
no worries - took me forever too |
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bg |
yeah |
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library_systems_guy |
so i assume you are bywaters CEO |
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bg |
:) |
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bg |
larryb++ |
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library_systems_guy |
nice...well i feel rather humbled |
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library_systems_guy |
hey larryb |
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larryb |
hi there |
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library_systems_guy |
you can close that ticket I have with you guys |
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library_systems_guy |
1436 |
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bg |
no worries library_systems_guy++ |
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larryb |
got it. thanks. |
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pianohacker |
Dammit, the boundary between "able to take out my battery" and "standby" is about a degree |
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bg |
HA |
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library_systems_guy |
lolz |
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library_systems_guy |
btw larryb just so you know they have changed the way the daemon works in squeeze |
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library_systems_guy |
so i am assuming that the install doc for koha will have to change we debian 6 is officially supported |
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larryb |
Yeah, I figured that. What're they doing different? |
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bg |
ah this the -reset vs. the -r |
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library_systems_guy |
remember whey the switched to using the service command in ubuntu distros |
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bg |
I think that's been patched |
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library_systems_guy |
well the -reset was the solution after i got the daemon up |
