IRC log for #koha, 2011-04-04

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02:48 rangi anyone got a sec?
02:49 mtj yep
02:49 rangi opac-detail.pl
02:49 rangi can you try saving a record as marc(Non-unicode/MARC8)
02:50 rangi its throwing an error for me in template toolkit, but it looks like it should through one anyway
02:50 rangi just want to confirm its a general bug
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02:52 rangi heya hdl, awake early again?
02:52 mtj worked ok for me
02:53 mtj on 3.03.00.028
02:53 rangi ta
02:53 hdl hi rangi
02:53 mtj u want the latest master?
02:53 rangi everything but that one works for, utf8 is fine, bibtex is fine etc
02:53 rangi but the marc8 throws this
02:54 rangi Can't call method "as_usmarc" on an undefined value at /home/chrisc/git/opus-koha/opac/opac-export.pl
02:54 rangi if you have time that would be great mtj
02:56 hdl yes... again. The debug week will begin in a few hours.
02:56 rangi cool, i talked to magnuse and cait
02:56 rangi they are all ready to go :)
02:58 mtj rangi:  works ok on latest kc.org master too
02:58 rangi ah ive found the problem
02:58 rangi its a bad record
02:58 rangi [Mon Apr  4 14:58:54 2011] opac-export.pl: Creation of MARCXML Record failed: Field 520 must have at least one subfield at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 60
02:58 rangi so the bug is it isnt trapping the error correctly
02:59 rangi http://opac.opus.koha.catalyst[…]t&bib=466&save=Go
02:59 rangi cool will fix
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03:17 AmitG heya chris
03:18 AmitG WC
03:22 eythian down the hall, to the left.
03:24 AmitG heya Robin
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04:51 cait good morning koha
04:53 eythian cait: didn't you go to sleep not long ago?
04:53 space_librarian what eythian said...
04:55 cait hm yesẞ
04:55 cait ?
04:55 space_librarian its just surprising to see you back so soon.
04:55 eythian it's not even 7am there. Why are you awake?
04:56 cait used to wake up around this time
05:09 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nd_found_problems
05:09 rangi fixed a bunch today
05:10 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/new/enh/bug_5917
05:10 rangi now its home time
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05:38 rangi whats for breakfast cait?
05:38 rangi pain au chocolat?
05:42 cait ?
05:42 SpaceLibrarian_home it's pastry with chocolate in the middle
05:43 cait not thereyet - can tell you later :)
06:11 cait bbl
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06:52 Cybermon hi all
06:53 Cybermon i have this error for OPAC: Can't call method "as_usmarc" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 2384.
06:54 Cybermon it was related indexing ?
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06:54 Cybermon Rangi ?
06:54 wahanui Rangi is asking for a vote on the next meeting i think
06:56 Cybermon anyone have experience to convert Microsoft Access database from Windows Cyrilic 1251 to Unicode /UTF-8/
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06:57 rangi Cybermon: yes thats often to do with indexing
06:57 rangi id do a full reindex and see if it goes away
06:58 rangi and good morning biblibre
06:58 Cybermon i see.
06:58 rangi Cybermon: and no, no experience doing that with Access
06:59 AmitG heya julian, rangi
06:59 julian hi AmitG
06:59 julian hi all
07:00 rangi hi AmitG
07:00 AmitG Chris: World CUP
07:00 rangi yep
07:00 AmitG India second time
07:01 rangi yep
07:04 Cybermon is it command of indexing zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg -g iso2709 -d biblios init
07:04 Cybermon what is mean of iso2709 ?
07:06 rangi no
07:06 rangi just do a rebuild_zebra.pl -r -b
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07:06 Cybermon i see.
07:06 rangi unless you have already tried that and it didnt work
07:07 kmkale Namaskar #koha
07:07 Cybermon i just planning after bulkimporting.
07:08 rangi hi kmkale
07:08 kmkale heya rangi
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07:15 Cybermon Rangi: How can i add other Classification number data fields after DEWEY DECIMAL CLASSIFICATION NUMBER for Cataloging section ?
07:15 rangi ?
07:15 rangi i dont understand the question
07:16 mtj heya rangi, big rain in aro
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07:17 rangi hmm, must be on its way
07:18 rangi we had a tonne last night
07:18 mtj indeed!
07:18 Cybermon we have Russian Classification number for book. therefore, we needed add        084 OTHER CLASSIFICATION NUMBER for catalog ?
07:18 rangi i think you need to ask a cataloguer, i don't know the answer, when cait is back she might know
07:19 rangi or otherwise jcamins
07:19 Cybermon okay
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07:38 francharb Hello all
07:38 rangi hi francharb
07:38 kmkale hi francharb
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07:42 kmkale_ can someone test a very simple bug and patch for bug 6038
07:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6038 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED, Pagination in members-search.pl broken
07:44 rangi ahh you missed setting it to needs signoff
07:44 * rangi fixes that
07:44 rangi now it will show up in the reports
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07:48 kmkale Yay. my adsl is acting up today
07:51 rangi mtj: rain just arrived here
07:51 mtj wow, that took a little while
07:52 rangi yep
07:52 rangi must be not much win
07:52 rangi d
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07:53 mtj good news, gmane, markmail and mail-archive are now tracking all/most Koha mailing-lists... again
07:53 rangi yay!
07:54 mtj still waiting on nabble
07:54 mtj next step, is to ask site admins for a mbox import, for all the months of mail we have missed, on those sites
07:55 rangi yeah
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07:56 mtj some minor list details are still incorrect, but they are correct enough to be actively archiving the new lists
07:57 rangi excellent thanks for doing that
07:59 mtj no probs, its a problem that we all noticed… but no-one got round to fix!
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08:04 magnuse bonjour matts
08:05 matts hey ! hello :)
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08:16 AmitG heya kmkale
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08:23 cait hi #koha :)
08:23 * paul_p and cait start working on acquisition bugzilla entries...
08:23 kmkale_ hi cait
08:23 clrh hi
08:23 kmkale_ hi paul_p
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08:42 rangi cait: bug 5839
08:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5839 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21
08:42 cait yes?
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08:44 rangi is it only the last 2 patches that are needed?
08:44 paul_p cait: http://blog.gitfr.net/search/prompt
08:44 paul_p hi rangi
08:44 cait ah yes
08:44 rangi cool thanks
08:44 cait I had a discussion with marcel about hat
08:44 rangi hi paul_p
08:44 cait on irc
08:45 cait I think some of it is not mentioned in the bug
08:45 rangi ill remove the other one then
08:45 rangi so it doesnt confuse me
08:45 cait ok
08:45 cait sorry, didn't mark it as obsolete
08:45 rangi tis ok i was just confused
08:46 rangi paul_p: do you think you will have time over the hackfest to test the removing items from marcxml ?
08:47 rangi bug 5579
08:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml
08:47 cait rangi: about 5951: where on the mailing list?
08:47 paul_p wow... we will see, but it was not on our todo list. That would be great to be able to !
08:48 rangi gmcharlt refactored and fixed the patches, has a branch you can pull from, or the patches onthe mailing list, it looks pretty good
08:48 rangi cait: just resent it should be koha-patches now
08:48 paul_p (well, in fact, it's on the todo list of ppl working on catalogue/cataloguing)
08:49 paul_p chris, i'll share our workshop list with you (ggldoc) now
08:49 paul_p so you can see who works on what
08:49 cait rangi: I still have not figured out to get the patches from the list ... perhaps someone here knows a good way to do it :)
08:51 rangi cool
08:51 paul_p cait:
08:51 paul_p GIT_PS1_SHOWDIRTYSTATE=1
08:51 paul_p GIT_PS1_SHOWUNTRACKEDFILES=1
08:51 paul_p GIT_PS1_SHOWSTASHSTATE=1
08:51 paul_p GIT_PS1_SHOWUPSTREAM="verbose"
08:51 paul_p PS1='\D{%H:%M} \[\033[1;35m\]\w$(__git_ps1 " \[\033[1;34m\](%s)")\[\033[0m\]\$ '
09:02 cait PS1='[\u@\h \W $(__git_ps1 " (%s)")]\$' worked :)
09:13 magnuse in bug 5088 - is nengard saying we should stop using the reviews from Amazon completely?
09:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5088 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, HTML tags in Amazon reviews
09:15 rangi it means we cant
09:16 rangi (currently they don't work anyway)
09:17 rangi since amazon changed the api
09:19 magnuse rangi: can't as in can't do it technically or can't do it legally?
09:22 magnuse so what do we do about bug 5088 - mark it as invalid?
09:22 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5088 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, HTML tags in Amazon reviews
09:23 rangi magnuse: its not currently working because of technical reasons, (they changed the API)
09:23 rangi we can't do it legally until someone reads the new T&C and decides if we are allowed to
09:24 rangi i think add a note saying that, and leave it open
09:25 magnuse we can't test if the patch from owen fixes the tag problem since the reviews are not working at all...
09:25 magnuse rangi: what sould we set the status to?
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09:29 rangi just remove the needs signoff status
09:29 marcelr rangi: hi; on 5839 could it be a git version problem? it applies with me
09:31 rangi the original one applies fine
09:31 rangi your signed off one doesnt
09:31 rangi but they are the same, so im pushing the original one
09:31 marcelr ok my git version seems somewhat older
09:33 rangi cait: make sure you remember to change the status to signed off :)
09:34 cait rangi: thx :)
09:41 snail rangi: you probably noticed that my plans for the wikipedia page got shot down. I'll be taking a back seat on it from now on.
09:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5839: Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]41d66767c7b711957> / Bug 5839: Add index stocknumber on 952$i <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d62ca0196731695ef>
09:42 rangi snail: righto
09:45 jenkins_koha Starting build 111 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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09:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5948 : Creation of a quantity column in receipt summary <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4454d51ede1523fde>
09:56 cait english native speaker needed
09:56 cait rangi: you still here? :)
09:56 cait You have deleted item(s) in the order, don't forget to delete it(them) in the catalog
09:56 cait can you suggest something for that message?
10:05 snail cait: I'm a native English speaker
10:05 snail but i'm not quite sure of your question
10:06 snail the sentence you gave is good English sense to my ear
10:10 rangi yeah that is fine as it is
10:12 cait ok
10:12 cait :)
10:12 cait I was not sure
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10:19 clrh hdl: what do you thing about gitting dataset test database. if yes, where?
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10:21 magnuse o/
10:22 druthb hi, magnuse!  o/
10:22 rangi hi druthb
10:22 druthb hi, rangi.  :)
10:22 magnuse bonjour druthb
10:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #111: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/111/
10:25 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5839: Add index stocknumber on 952$i
10:25 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5839: Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21
10:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5839 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21
10:25 jenkins_koha * Christophe Croullebois: Bug 5948 : Creation of a quantity column in receipt summary
10:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5948 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Missing quantity column in receipt screen
10:31 cait rangi: do you intend to stay up all night to push our patches? ;)
10:37 rangi nope
10:38 rangi remember the clocks changed, its only 10.40pm
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10:54 rangi right, thats 2 more tested and pushed, my brain is too tired to test any more tonight
11:00 jenkins_koha Starting build 112 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
11:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5989 - Funds filter does not remember library choice <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0a7b95a63b6d356a2> / Adding a javascript function to check the validation of a record with a budget. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3716cffa3b15cfb7c>
11:21 hdl clrh++
11:21 cait rangi: coffee? ;)
11:22 marcelr cait: signed the dropping uniqueness of stocknumber too
11:22 hdl you could commit a sql file in t/db/marcflavour
11:23 cait thx a lot marcelr
11:26 marcelr hdl: t/data/db_schemas contains only kohastructure.sql-3.00.00-beta-067 ?
11:27 hdl marcelr: yes... but it is db_schemas
11:27 hdl we could commit a sql file in t/data/db
11:27 cait marcelr++
11:27 marcelr hdl: what is exact dir?
11:28 hdl making it a repository.
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11:39 jcamins Good morning, #koha
11:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #112: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/112/
11:40 jenkins_koha * koha-preprod: Adding a javascript function to check the validation of a record with a budget.
11:40 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5989 - Funds filter does not remember library choice
11:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5989 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Funds filter does not remember library choice
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11:56 matts clrh, magnuse, for me 4157 is ok
11:56 matts i'll sign it off, if you haven't done it yet
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11:58 JesseM Morning #Koha
11:59 oleonard Hi #koha. How's the debugging party going?
12:01 gmcharlt good morning
12:02 jcamins gmcharlt++
12:02 jcamins (in case you didn't read the scrollback where I gave you karma for the patch to remove items from biblioitems)
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12:03 jcamins oleonard: I have a vague recollection that you were working on something to show the number of holds on an item in the OPaC. Is that vague recollection in any way accurate?
12:03 oleonard No, I did that for the staff client.
12:04 jcamins Ah.
12:04 clrh jwagner: We are looking to a patch were your are assigned http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4240 it needs Sign off but there is no patch attached
12:04 huginn Bug 4240: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED, Add a "did you mean" spell checker to the OPAC
12:04 jcamins Thanks.
12:04 clrh ( jwagner hi :)
12:04 jcamins clrh: that means that you have to find it in their repository.
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12:05 oleonard clrh: Any patch assigned to jwagner which has no patch attached is most likely part of Harley and will need work to have it integrated into Koha
12:05 jwagner The git repo path has changed; looking for the new one.
12:06 oleonard jwagner: I assume the contents of the repo are still unchanged?
12:06 clrh do you have an id commit?
12:06 magnuse https://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS/tree/Bug4240
12:06 jwagner I think they've been planning to update it but I don't think that's happened yet.
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12:07 jwagner magnuse, thanks -- new github path is https://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS
12:10 jwagner And at some point I'll have several free hours to go back through all our bug reports and update their status.  Someday.
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12:10 magnuse looks like that repository has not been updated since 2010-05-10...
12:11 jwagner Yes, the contents haven't changed, but the path to the repo did change a while back.
12:21 oleonard clrh: You can also find the PTFS stuff here: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]tfs.git;a=summary
12:21 oleonard It hasn't been updated for almost a year, so anything there isn't going to be easy to integrate.
12:22 clrh I just skip it for the moment
12:23 clrh thanks for answers
12:23 jcamins oleonard: I imagine when it's updated it won't get any easier.
12:24 oleonard Depends on how they do the update, I suppose.
12:25 oleonard When I update a branch in my repo it is because I've done new work based on master or rebased the branch on current master. Other people have a different style I guess.
12:26 paul_p hi oleonard & jcamins & jwagner & all
12:26 jwagner Bonjour paul_p
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12:39 tcohen hi #koha
12:40 jcamins Should item records ever be pulled in via Z39.50?
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12:50 oleonard paul_p: A revised patch has been attached to bug 5991
12:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5991 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Javascript error on purchase suggestion pages
12:50 paul_p oleonard, thx
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13:04 gmcharlt jcamins: by default they are since they're included as 9XX fields in the bib records that Zebra sees
13:05 gmcharlt and that applies both pre- and post- the patch for bug 5579
13:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml
13:06 alex_a hi all. trying to fix a problem when using merge_authority.pl, i saw that autority deleting is not handle by merge function. But "DelAuthority" is called after
13:08 alex_a should "DelAuthority" not be use in merge function ?
13:09 tcohen jonathan?
13:13 tcohen lucky people on 3.4 sprint: good luck!
13:13 magnuse tcohen: lucky? this is hard work! ;-)
13:14 tcohen i'd pay for being there!
13:14 cait tcohen - go and buy aplane ticket :)
13:14 tcohen i'm flying to europe, in may
13:14 tcohen unfortunately
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13:16 hdl tcohen: lucky you... There is a koha symposium in May 27,28  ;)
13:16 hdl in Lyon
13:17 tcohen hdl:  my free week is May 22-27, maybe I can manage to be there!
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13:18 hdl http://www.univ-lyon2.fr/docum[…]556.kjsp?RH=WWW88
13:19 tcohen bookmarked!
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13:40 paul_p hackfest news = masmedios 2 ppl just cancelled their coming to the hackfest. Only 2 spanish from xercode coming :((
13:44 magnuse oh no - too bad!
13:53 alex_a paul_p: they are afraid ?
13:53 alex_a :p
13:53 paul_p alex_a, nope: "I’m  sorry but  we can not attend the HackFest  because we are are late in  some projects.  We have done everything  as possible, but finally we have to work  very hard this week in order to finish them"
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14:03 cait oleonard: around?
14:03 oleonard Yes
14:03 cait lookig at your revised patch for 5991
14:03 cait bug 5991
14:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5991 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Javascript error on purchase suggestion pages
14:04 cait I still get errors
14:04 oleonard :(
14:04 cait on the main suggestion page and when I open one for edit
14:04 cait the one on the edit page is:
14:04 cait document.getElementById('price').value =  listprice.toFixed(2);
14:04 oleonard Upon page load?
14:05 cait oh, the one on the main page seems gone now
14:05 cait yes
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14:05 cait I did acquisitons > suggestions > open one suggestion by clicking on title
14:05 cait was your patch for the main page?
14:07 oleonard My patch should have prevented an error on the main page while letting the script run correctly on the edit page
14:07 tcohen rangi: need advice on the wording for zebraqueue_daemon
14:07 cait oleonard: I will do more testing
14:07 cait this is the error from the main page I got:     var quantity = new Number(document.getElementById('quantity').value);
14:07 cait checking again no after applying your patch
14:07 tcohen should I append [Experimental] to the texts?
14:07 oleonard cait, it doesn't sound like my patch is applied
14:08 cait I was switching between my braches
14:08 cait let me double check
14:08 cait no error on main page!
14:08 cait error is on edit page after patch was applied
14:08 cait document.getElementById('price').value =  listprice.toFixed(2);
14:09 cait I will add it to the bug
14:09 oleonard cait, my patch removes "document.getElementById('price').value =  listprice.toFixed(2);"
14:09 oleonard ...from acq.js
14:09 cait hm
14:10 oleonard can you try a shift-reload?
14:10 cait yep will do
14:10 cait I am on the right branch and git log shows your patch is applied
14:11 cait hah! this fixed it :)
14:11 oleonard cached js file :)
14:11 cait oleonard++
14:11 cait going to sign-off :)
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14:12 cait one
14:12 cait done
14:15 magnuse yay!
14:16 magnuse sekjal and/or nengard: if you'd like another go at bug 5671, the tab error should be fixed now
14:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5671 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED, Add a column of custom HTML to "my summary"
14:16 sekjal magnuse:  great, thanks!
14:27 oleonard Why has Bug 3514 been marked as fixed?
14:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3514 normal, P3, ---, guillaume.hatt, RESOLVED FIXED, Returning items through patron Details tab doesn't activate all circulation functions
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14:44 tcohen oleonard: document.getElementById vs $('.') ?
14:45 oleonard jquery gives us the $("") shortcut, and I always use it.
14:45 magnuse maybe a slip of the pen by Guillaume, on bug 3514?
14:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3514 normal, P3, ---, guillaume.hatt, RESOLVED FIXED, Returning items through patron Details tab doesn't activate all circulation functions
14:45 tcohen we should always use that when adding code?
14:47 oleonard tcohen: It's up to you. If they both do the same thing, choose what you are most comfortable with.
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14:47 tcohen ok
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15:09 cait hi wizzyrea :)
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15:21 hdl oleonard: this was a mistake.
15:21 hdl oleonard++ for catching that.
15:22 hdl oleonard: in the resolution comment, it was noted doesnot apply in a comment
15:24 tcohen if a branch was created on koha's git for an enhancement...
15:24 tcohen further patches should be built against that branch?
15:29 gmcharlt tcohen: generally, yes
15:31 tcohen gmcharlt: ok, thanks
15:31 hdl yes.
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15:41 magnuse paul_p, hdl: any comment on bug 5976? commenters seem to think the duplicated search button is a feature, not a bug...
15:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5976 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, The search button is duplicated on advanced search
15:42 jcamins Definitely a feature.
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15:46 jcamins Does anyone know how to find out if an item is lost?
15:46 jcamins Preferably an easy method call?
15:46 jwagner items.itemlost is true?
15:47 jcamins jwagner: yeah, but how do I find that out without directly querying the database?
15:47 paul_p magnuse/hdl, ok, I agree with comments. bugzilla entry closed
15:48 jcamins I see how to fix bug 5533, but I need opinions.
15:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, marking item lost diff in two places
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15:49 jcamins The problem is that there is no call to C4::Accounts::chargelostitems() in editims.
15:49 jcamins s/editims/edititems/
15:50 jcamins Should the call be moved to C4::ModItem, this simplifying the code at the expense of adding a dependency from C4::Items->C4::Accounts, or should it be done in additem.pl?
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15:52 jcamins s/edititems/additem
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16:10 oleonard jcamins: Is anyone complaining that marking something lost *shouldn't* charge the patron a fee?
16:10 jcamins oleonard: no.
16:10 jcamins Lots of people are complaining that it doesn't, though.
16:11 oleonard I'm with them. I just wondered if that decision needed to be pulled out and handled somewhere else.
16:11 * oleonard has no comment on the mechanics of the call as it is over his head
16:11 jcamins My inclination is probably to go with putting it in C4, that way at least there will only be one place to change if it's necessary to add a syspref.
16:12 cait time to leave :)
16:12 cait bye all
16:12 jcamins Bye.
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16:13 gmcharlt jcamins: I suggest keeping the logic out of ModItem itself
16:14 gmcharlt instead, create a wrapper to ModItem that includes business-rule based side-effects
16:14 jcamins Hm.
16:15 jcamins This is complicated by the bizarre split between ModItem and ModItemFromMarc.
16:16 magnuse bye #koha
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16:17 gmcharlt jcamins: ModItemFromMarc should be considered purely an accident handling three specific cases
16:17 gmcharlt (a) the item editor
16:17 gmcharlt (b) the serial item editor
16:17 gmcharlt (c) mapping from embedded items during import
16:17 gmcharlt from my POV, while (c) will remain legitamate
16:18 gmcharlt (a) and (b) should be changed to avoid the explicit dependence between the item editor and the MARC frameworks
16:18 gmcharlt any other uses of ModItemFromMarc should be removed on sight, IMO
16:22 * jcamins crosses bug 5533 off his list of "bugs he might be able to fix"
16:22 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, marking item lost diff in two places
16:22 gmcharlt jcamins: sorry, didn't mean to scare you off
16:22 jcamins gmcharlt: nah, 'sok.
16:23 gmcharlt v1 of the wrapper could be quite simple - a MarkItemLost routine
16:24 druthb @quote random
16:24 huginn druthb: Quote #80: "<robin> heh thanks, that makes me seem a lot more edumacated :)" (added by gmcharlt at 01:54 AM, June 24, 2010)
16:24 druthb @roulette
16:24 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:24 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
16:25 * druthb chuckles at huginn.
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16:27 wizzyrea @quote random
16:27 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010)
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16:32 druthb @quote random
16:32 huginn druthb: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 07:12 PM, September 25, 2009)
16:46 jcamins What encodings might one find MARC records in?
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16:51 jcamins Never mind, someone already figured that out in the z39.50 configuration.
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18:30 wizzyrea so here's an obtuse question
18:30 gmcharlt apropos of absolutely nothing
18:30 gmcharlt wizzyrea: well, obviously the Ode To Joy is the only possible sound cue for the hold-filled event
18:31 wizzyrea the sound cues: they happen before or after the event is completed
18:31 wizzyrea hehehehehehe
18:31 wizzyrea #quote add <gmcharlt> well, obviously the Ode To Joy is the only possible sound cue for the hold-filled event
18:31 wizzyrea doh
18:31 wizzyrea @quote add <member:gmcharlt> well, obviously the Ode To Joy is the only possible sound cue for the hold-filled event
18:31 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:32 wizzyrea lol
18:32 wizzyrea @quote add <member:gmcharlt> well, obviously the Ode To Joy is the only possible sound cue for the hold-filled event
18:32 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:32 wizzyrea oh for pity's sake
18:33 wizzyrea @quote add gmcharlt:  well, obviously the Ode To Joy is the only possible sound cue for the hold-filled event
18:33 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #124 added.
18:33 wizzyrea phew.
18:48 oleonard What was the question again?
18:48 wizzyrea my question is: you hear a sound cue when the page loads, right?
18:49 wizzyrea so practically speaking
18:49 wizzyrea when you check an item in
18:49 wizzyrea it's after the operation you just did has completed
18:49 oleonard Right
18:51 oleonard Problematic?
18:51 wizzyrea no, good i think
18:51 wizzyrea especially if you're in a lag situation
18:51 wizzyrea where you're waiting
18:52 wizzyrea for it to come back
18:52 wizzyrea i.e. don't do anything else until you hear the beep
18:52 wizzyrea at least that's how I'm interpreting how it works
18:52 francharb good night!
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18:52 wizzyrea gni... oh bother.
19:20 bg http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]_the_ils.html.csp
19:26 oleonard "The people that do open source development have to make a living. They have to have a job. So fundamentally if they’re not getting revenues from the work they’re doing in open source, where are they getting their revenues from, and will they continue to be supported so they can make a living?"
19:27 oleonard I'll be glad when we don't hear that garbage anymore.
19:28 oleonard Oh, Yokley's comment after that is choice.
19:28 oleonard "If you look at any successful open source venture, any of them, the ones that are most successful have had good corporate involvement in some way, shape, or form"
19:28 oleonard No thanks to you.
19:29 jcamins oleonard: to be fair, that's true.
19:29 jcamins LibreOffice is a great project, and they had corporate involvement. :)
19:30 oleonard Of course. But Yokley doesn't believe in the same definition of "good corporate involvement."
19:44 rangi yeah openoffice had corporate involvement
19:45 jcamins rangi: good morning.
19:45 rangi theres involvement then there is trying to run the project
19:46 rangi oracle tried that, with ooffice
19:46 rangi and hudson
19:46 jcamins rangi: yes, but we'd never have had LibreOffice without the latter, right?
19:46 rangi and mysql
19:46 rangi without sun? sure
19:47 jcamins No, without Oracle. We'd just be stuck with OOo. ;)
19:47 rangi we would have abiword
19:47 rangi what?
19:48 rangi you are kidding right?
19:48 jcamins Yeah.
19:49 rangi good :)
19:49 jcamins Well, technically, if Oracle had played nice there wouldn't have been any reason to start LibreOffice, since OOo would have been perfectly acceptable from a Free Software standpoint.
19:50 rangi yeah if they had limited their involvement
19:51 rangi imho projects like apache, linux, postgresql
19:51 rangi where corporates are happy to contribute in a non dominating manner
19:51 rangi are far more succesful projects
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19:53 rangi oh wow how do builders get paid?
19:53 rangi or plumbers
20:00 jcamins Has anyone noticed enhanced messaging digests not working recently?
20:00 rangi not me
20:01 jcamins Okay, possibly a better question would be, can anyone confirm that they've been working on fairly recent Master?
20:04 rangi again not me
20:04 rangi our production installs run stable
20:04 rangi I can try on a test box if I get a chance
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20:20 jcamins sekjal++
20:31 rangi hackfesters++
20:31 rangi i went to bed, there were 5 bugs in signed off
20:31 rangi state
20:31 rangi 25 now
20:47 rangi @later tell tcohen new patch seems perfect
20:47 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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21:04 cait hi all
21:06 rhcl hi cait
21:07 rangi hi cait
21:07 cait hi rangi :)
21:07 cait hi rhcl :)
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21:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6045: Accepted by is empty when accepting from list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7c2fcf94d4642806f> / Updating database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]006d75f7be8970d9d> / Bug 5860: Adding duplicate stocknumber fails silently <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]itdiff;h=a8ffb227
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22:08 cait good night all
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22:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug_5307' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c54efe3f0aba96673> / Bug 6046: suggestedby list on she filter was not created properly <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9acba8744922fc61f> / Bug 6043: SQL error when IndependantBranches=ON on suggestion <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?
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22:18 rangi wahanui: .pt ?
22:18 wahanui rangi: no idea
22:18 rangi youre no help
22:20 rhcl wahanui: whenua?
22:20 wahanui rhcl: bugger all, i dunno
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22:24 rangi rhcl_away: land :)
22:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3628: opacSerialDefaultTab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ddf5c5f217c68aa0a> / Bug 5962 : Budgets showing when they shouldn't (MT #4717) Bug in Koha 3.2 on acqui... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53536bfe64d490c01> / Fix for Bug 5991 - Javascript error on purchase suggestion pages <http://git.koha-community.
22:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #113: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/113/
22:24 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5860: Adding duplicate stocknumber fails silently
22:24 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating database version
22:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5860 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Adding duplicate stocknumber will fail silently
22:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 6045: Accepted by is empty when accepting from list
22:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6045 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Accepted by is empty when accepting from list
22:24 jenkins_koha Starting build 114 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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22:59 rangi heya NateC
22:59 NateC hiya rangi
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23:03 bg heya druthb
23:03 druthb hi.
23:04 rangi yo druthb
23:04 druthb :)
23:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #114: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/114/
23:04 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 5307: Language search fields
23:05 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 6043: SQL error when IndependantBranches=ON on suggestion
23:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5307 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, language searching fields
23:05 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 6046: suggestedby list on she filter was not created properly
23:05 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5991 - Javascript error on purchase suggestion pages
23:05 jenkins_koha * Christophe Croullebois: Bug 5962 : Budgets showing when they shouldn't (MT #4717) Bug in Koha 3.2 on acqui-home.pl
23:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6043 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, No suggestions showing when independant branches set to OFF
23:05 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 3628: opacSerialDefaultTab
23:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6046 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Managed by list in suggestions was not created correctly
23:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5991 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Javascript error on purchase suggestion pages
23:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5962 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Budgets are showing when they shouldn't on acqui-home.pl
23:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3628 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, Add opacSerialDefaultTab preference to display shortened serial collection instead of holdings by default
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23:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5947 Suggestions : add date to the search query <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e642848738b11fcdc>
23:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #115: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/115/
23:54 jenkins_koha Alex Arnaud: Bug 5947 Suggestions : add date to the search query
23:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5947 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, Adding a date filter to the suggestions search
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