IRC log for #koha, 2011-04-03

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00:40 gmcharlt rangi: looks like the patch for bug 5883 is about to become unecessary
00:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5883 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED, UTF-8 characters in items (952) get encoded wrong when the record is modified.
00:41 gmcharlt but just FYI in case removing it for bug 5579 causes a problem during testing
00:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml
00:50 rangi righto
00:50 rangi ill make a note
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02:31 gmcharlt rangi: patch series for bug 5579 submitted
02:31 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml
02:41 jcamins_away wizzyrea_away: done
02:44 jcamins_away If I have an excessive number of zebrasrv processes running, can I kill some?
02:46 * jcamins_away decides to find out.
02:48 jcamins_away Bother.
02:48 jcamins_away I can't kill them.
02:52 * jcamins_away pulls out the -9
03:05 jcamins_away @later tell wizzyrea I'm working tomorrow, if you have any questions.
03:05 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
03:31 brendan_ wow go uconn - made the finals
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07:23 kmkale Namaskar #koha
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08:25 cait morning #koha
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08:44 cait hi kmkale :)
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11:28 jcamins_away Good morning, #koha
11:28 druthb hi, jcamins.  :)
11:30 jcamins_away gmcharlt++
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11:36 druthb jcamins++
12:22 jcamins Yay! I have fixed the question mark problem!
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12:54 jcamins Hello, hdl.
12:54 hdl hi jcamins
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12:56 jcamins I have a question about holds that I hope you might be able to help me with.
12:56 jcamins If a library has the holds allowed column in the circ rules set to 5, should that mean that only 5 patrons can place a hold on any given item?
12:57 hdl Nope that means a given patron can only place 5 holds at once.
12:58 hdl mmm.... But maybe consequence of the calculation is what you describe
12:58 jcamins So if only 5 people can place a hold on an item, that means there's a bug.
12:59 hdl I think so.
12:59 jcamins Okay.
12:59 jcamins Thanks.
12:59 hdl have you seen that ?
12:59 jcamins I don't know.
12:59 jcamins One of our libraries said they had that problem, but they didn't give any details.
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15:55 magnuse bonjour #koha
15:57 tcohen hi rangi
15:57 tcohen tonight (+8hours)
15:57 druthb hi, magnuse!
15:58 tcohen i'll be back from an asado + tennis and will make the changes you suggested
15:59 magnuse hiya druthb
15:59 magnuse druthb: guess who i am having dinner with tonight? ;-)
15:59 * druthb pouts a lot.
15:59 druthb our favorite German?
16:00 magnuse druthb: yup ;-)
16:01 * druthb pouts.
16:02 tcohen hi magnuse, druthb
16:03 * tcohen slept too much last night, is taking 1lt. of coffe right now
16:03 druthb hi, tcohen! :)
16:06 magnuse hiya tcohen
16:10 tcohen so, where r we going out tonight?
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20:23 jcamins Does anyone know if digests for enhanced messaging actually work?
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20:31 rangi morning
20:31 druthb hi, rangi. :)
20:31 rangi heya
20:31 jcamins Good morning.
20:43 ebegin Hey!  Anybody know how to install SMS::Send on CentOS ?
20:46 rangi cpan?
20:47 ebegin I was told that CPAN is not the way to install package on CentOS...
20:48 rangi no idea then, i always use debian, or debian based distros
20:49 ebegin rangi, I usually use debian too. But it's not possible with this client
20:49 rangi :(
20:52 rangi i guess just google for a .rpm of it?
20:55 rangi gmcharlt++
20:56 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5579
20:56 huginn Bug 5579: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Remove items from biblioitems.marcxml
20:56 jcamins Yeah, I saw that.
20:56 jcamins Pretty exciting.
20:56 rangi yep, we need to give it a bit of testing, but it looks pretty tight, so should make 3.4
20:56 rangi which is awesome
20:57 druthb gmcharlt++
20:58 rangi and my memcached patches got signed off, using that for session management means a good speed boost and lots less touching the db
20:58 jcamins That would be great, because sync_items_to_bibs takes forever.
20:58 rangi yeah it speeds up circ a bunch
21:00 jenkins_koha Starting build 109 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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21:00 rangi heya magnuse
21:00 druthb hi, magnuse!
21:00 rangi pushed your sample data :)
21:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fix two small typos in MARC21 field 006 value builder <[…]2e182770f370d76e8>
21:01 jcamins Didn't Owen add something to display the number of holds on an item in the OPAC?
21:01 magnuse hiya rangi & druthb & #koha
21:01 magnuse rangi: cool, thanks!
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21:05 jcamins druthb: I hope your phone doesn't beep every time you get an e-mail.
21:05 druthb As a matter of fact, it does.
21:06 jcamins Heh.
21:06 jcamins Have you gotten annoyed and pounded it into a fine powder yet?
21:08 ibeardslee ?
21:09 druthb nope.
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21:17 magnuse guten abend cait, and thanks for a fun dinner!
21:18 cait thx to you :)
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21:21 jcamins Okay, I think I need to bake some cinnamon rolls.
21:21 rangi are you in marseille?
21:21 cait cinnamon rolls...
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21:21 cait rangi: yes :)
21:21 rangi yay!
21:21 * jcamins is not, but he would share cinnamon rolls with cait and magnuse if he were.
21:21 magnuse yup, cait and me are in marseille
21:21 magnuse oooh, yummy
21:22 cait jcamins: thx :)
21:22 jcamins is now known as jcamins_away
21:22 cait rangi: and I have my suitcase and was not forced to spend a night in amsterdam :P
21:22 magnuse and tomorrow we will start sprinting for 3.4 ;-)
21:23 cait paul_p volunteered to look at me at acquisitions :)
21:23 cait with me at...
21:23 magnuse so paul_p will look at you while you look at acq? ;-)
21:24 cait grr
21:24 magnuse hehe
21:25 rangi hehe
21:25 cait be careful - it's only a wall separating us!
21:25 magnuse oh no, i forgot...
21:25 rangi nice hotel? i see it has internet at least :)
21:26 magnuse it sure does - everything else is ok, nothing fancy
21:26 cait yep
21:26 rangi cait: our clocks changed, so its only 9.26am here
21:26 * cait tries to calculate the time difference
21:26 cait 10?
21:27 magnuse yeah, i think that makes it ten hours
21:27 magnuse it's so much easier when it's 12...
21:27 magnuse @wunder marseille
21:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0�C (11:00 PM CEST on April 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
21:27 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
21:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (11:20 PM CEST on April 03, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
21:27 magnuse yay
21:28 magnuse @wunder wellington
21:28 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
21:28 magnuse @wunder wellington, new zealand
21:28 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (9:00 AM NZST on April 04, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
21:28 magnuse wow
21:28 space_librarian (that doesn't describe the wind)
21:28 rangi heh, its not even windy :)
21:28 cait @wunder marseille
21:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0�C (11:00 PM CEST on April 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
21:28 space_librarian lol
21:29 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:29 huginn cait: The current temperature in Rheineck-Altenrhein, Germany is 15.0�C (11:20 PM CEST on April 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
21:29 rangi its not windy until my fence falls down again
21:29 cait hehe
21:29 magnuse hehe
21:29 space_librarian fair enough. I will take that definition of windy
21:32 liw rangi, I remember in Wellington when the wind would take my by my oilskin coat and move me (quite a feat, given how big I am)
21:33 rangi :)
21:33 rangi they used to have ropes at the crossings, to hold on to, so you didnt get blown into the road waiting to cross
21:34 magnuse but they don't any longer?!?
21:34 rangi naw, they have redesigned lots of streets
21:34 rangi and buildings
21:34 rangi to break up the wind
21:34 rangi so it doesnt tunnel as much
21:34 magnuse ah, vlever
21:34 magnuse clever
21:36 rangi
21:36 rangi sums it up :)
21:37 cait seems like it was a quiet sunday on koha's mailing lists
21:37 space_librarian that's fantastic.
21:37 rangi most sundays are pretty quiet
21:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #109: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/109/
21:40 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Fix two small typos in MARC21 field 006 value builder
21:41 * magnuse is shamefully behind in keeping up with the lists
21:41 cait rangi: looking at the patches from gmcharlt/hdl
21:41 cait rangi: will this also solve the limitation on items for a record?
21:50 rangi not sure about that, but i think so
21:51 magnuse not when you want to export records as iso 2709...
21:51 rangi yeah  it would only be exporting
21:51 rangi but using them inside koha would be fine
21:52 rangi as long as you -x with rebuild_zebra
21:52 cait ok :)
21:52 cait will make the bigger libraries happy
21:53 cait rangi: we coudl have separate holding records for expor
21:53 cait t
21:53 rangi yep
21:53 rangi or export them as marcxml
21:54 cait hm, marcxml sounds even better
21:54 magnuse iso2709 must die... ;-)
21:54 rangi :)
22:02 magnuse time to get some sleep - g'night #koha
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22:03 cait hehe
22:03 cait think I should do the same probably
22:12 eythian the packages will be making -x default soon.
22:14 cait eythian: read your accounts thing at the airport :)
22:14 cait can you do me a big favour rewriting it?
22:14 eythian cait: cool
22:14 eythian depends, but I can try :)
22:14 cait stop it from saving things like "Payment thanks" to the database
22:14 cait make it translatable
22:15 eythian oh, sure. That's a good idea.
22:15 cait It would save me a lot of evil jquery magic
22:15 cait and complaints
22:16 eythian I'll have to work out how that works, but I'll try.
22:16 cait ok :)
22:16 cait I think you would need to have types that tell what it is - not relying on the description to actually find out what it is
22:16 cait ?
22:16 cait if that makes any sense
22:16 eythian sorta.
22:17 cait hehe
22:17 eythian Even if the template pre-populates the message box with a string or something, then it'll be translatable by magic.
22:17 eythian also would make it editable.
22:18 eythian (can't remember right now if it currently is or not)
22:18 cait hm my database here is almost empty
22:19 cait perhaps it's a template problem mostly. not sure we have cases where the description shows different thigns while the account type is still the same
22:19 eythian my $usth = $dbh->prepare(
22:19 eythian "INSERT INTO accountlines
22:19 eythian (borrowernumber, accountno,date,amount,descriptio​n,accounttype,amountoutstanding)
22:19 eythian VALUES (?,?,now(),?,'Payment,thanks','Pay',?)"
22:19 eythian );
22:19 eythian
22:19 eythian it's that sort of hardcoded.
22:20 cait I know :(
22:20 cait and 'Payment, thanks -' is what it shows
22:20 cait I was looing at that a long while back but was a bit too big for me
22:20 cait sometimes the title is saved with the description
22:20 eythian oh, yeah. That's actually coming from somewhere else in the same file
22:21 eythian I'm planning on pulling the description stuff up a layer or two anyway.
22:21 eythian Probably all the way up to the template.
22:21 cait thx! I will be happy to test :)
22:21 eythian There's no longer going to be a need to store the user info in the description, as that's a seperate column now.
22:21 eythian cool :)
22:21 cait eythian: sounds good!
22:24 cait I think my problem was, that I wanted part of the information in the description column, because it was not available somewhere else
22:25 cait and had no idea how to fix it
22:25 eythian yeah. The old accounts system had grown quite ugly.
22:25 eythian The new one will be a lot more modular
22:25 cait :)
22:29 cait ok, have to get some sleep for tomorrow :)
22:29 cait eythian++ :) and good night all!
22:29 eythian cya
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22:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 4865: added dependency for using memcached for sessions <[…]d8c7e2e91dad4c26f> / bug 4865: Enable session storage in Memcached <[…]67e2ff69cb92ba088>
22:45 jenkins_koha Starting build 110 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #110: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/110/
23:24 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: bug 4865: Enable session storage in Memcached
23:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 4865: added dependency for using memcached for sessions
23:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4865 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, support storing CGI sessions using memcached
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