IRC log for #koha, 2011-03-28

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00:01 bg onto my second draft now
00:01 bg this one is a league where the winner gets paid
00:02 rangi ohh cool
00:04 bg yeah it's a really weird but fun thing...  just kind of hoping that these dudes live up to the back of their baseball cards
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00:22 mtj[…]ith-Sql-Injection
00:22 mtj An SQL statement walks into a bar and sees two tables and says, "Hello, may I join you?"
00:26 bg heh
00:43 rangi anyone got an install of master handy they can chcek something quickly for me?
00:44 mtj i do-ish....
00:44 rangi in search results in the staff client can you confirm itemtype images are broken?
00:45 rangi or at least the path to them is /opac-tmpl/something not /intranet-tmpl/ something
00:45 rangi its what im seeing just want to check im not mad, cos i think i know the fix for it
00:47 mtj hmm, they are missing on mine...
00:47 rangi cool
00:47 mtj just dbl-checking stuff.
00:51 mtj ive got a weird bug on my master, i cant add an item to a bib...
00:51 mtj looks like a user-perm error… by my admin user has every perm checked
00:51 mtj s/by/but/
00:56 jcamins_away rangi: I noticed that, but thought it was my fault.
00:56 rangi if i could get a signoff on my patch i just sent that would be sweet
00:56 rangi nope it wasnt :)
00:57 * jcamins_away should probably stop thinking that, since someone almost always files a bug after I think that.
00:57 rangi easy fix
00:58 jcamins_away Cookies, then sign off. :)
01:00 mtj ok, glitchy test db was my problem, fixed..
01:02 mtj rangi:  itemtypes show OK for me on
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01:02 rangi on the staff client?
01:02 rangi whats the path to them?
01:02 mtj yep
01:02 rangi in the search results only
01:03 rangi and im interested in the path, if it has opac anywhere in it, its still broken
01:03 mtj ah, on
01:03 mtj wrong place?
01:03 rangi no not detail, just the results
01:03 rangi detail is fine
01:04 mtj ok, they look missing on
01:05 rangi sweet
01:05 rangi the patch for 5960 should unmissing them
01:05 mtj shamefully, im not sure where they are sposed to appear :/
01:05 jcamins_away
01:05 jcamins_away When did we hit .32?
01:06 mtj under the title, on the left perhaps...?
01:06 rangi this morning
01:06 rangi on the right
01:06 jcamins_away This morning... your time?
01:06 rangi in the location bit
01:06 rangi yep, with your patch for 4276
01:06 jcamins_away Ah.
01:06 jcamins_away Okay, that's fine then.
01:07 jcamins_away I was worried that I wasn't on Master, since I was just using, but I pulled the latest earlier this afternoon.
01:07 mtj[…]966f011de0fe2fca0
01:11 jcamins_away Cool! They're back. :)
01:11 jcamins_away And I just found an example of weird garbage in the availability display.
01:12 jcamins_away I should fix it...
01:13 jcamins_away rangi: do you need it attached to the bug?
01:13 rangi naw, signed off and sent to the list is fine
01:13 jcamins_away Good.
01:14 jcamins_away I don't have a web browser on my test machine, which means I have to scp it onto my laptop to upload with the web browser.
01:14 rangi no problem its the status i care about more
01:15 jcamins_away That's what I thought.
01:16 jcamins_away Do you get koha-patches on your development box so you can just apply it out of the mbox file?
01:16 rangi yep
01:16 rangi its easier than getting it from the bug
01:16 jcamins_away I need to figure out how to set that up.
01:16 jcamins_away And *way* easier than copying and pasting.
01:19 rangi offlineimap
01:19 rangi and mutt
01:19 rangi is how i do it
01:28 jcamins_away Ooh, I like the offlineimap idea... since it's IMAP, you can delete all the messages you're not interested in elsewhere.
01:28 rangi yup
01:29 rangi i set up filters
01:29 jcamins_away Orrr... I could have a public IMAP folder that I move the patches I'm interested in into.
01:29 rangi and just grab the ones i want
01:34 jcamins_away Okay, the weird garbage is not something that needs fixing.
01:35 jcamins_away If you put silly things in your authorized values, you're going to get silly results.
01:36 rangi :)
01:40 jcamins_away git rebase -i ++
01:40 jcamins_away A year ago, I didn't know how to deal with my COinS commits.
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01:45 kmkale Namaskar #koha
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01:50 jcamins_away So much for asking kmkale about the analytics.
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02:02 rangi hi Irma and druthb
02:02 druthb Hi, rangi! :)
02:05 rangi hows the weekend going?
02:31 druthb workin' workin' workin', mostly.  Took some time off to tinker with an idea with a friend of mine that could really be nifty, and did some reading today.
03:01 jcamins_away tinkering++
03:01 druthb hi, jcamins!
03:02 * jcamins_away is going to bed soon, but he had this really nifty idea...
03:02 jcamins_away rangi: (or anyone) how much RAM would it take to run a low-usage 1.5 million-record Koha installation?
03:03 rangi depends how fast you want it to b
03:03 rangi e
03:03 rangi id want at least 4 gig on the db server
03:04 jcamins_away And I guess you'd probably need about the same for Zebra?
03:04 rangi zebra uses way less
03:04 rangi thats why i like it
03:04 rangi you could get away with 2 for zebra + apache
03:04 rangi fast disk tho
03:05 jcamins_away Hmm.
03:05 jcamins_away Thanks!
03:05 rangi np
03:05 * jcamins_away thinks making Koha flexible enough to provide a decent interface to ERIC would be *awesome*.
03:06 jcamins_away ( )
03:06 rangi nat lib venezuala has 9 million records
03:06 rangi in their koha
03:06 jcamins_away Wow! That's a lot of records.
03:07 rangi its the biggest koha i know of
03:08 rangi course thats from libwebcats
03:09 rangi so take it with a grain of salt
03:09 rangi http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]
03:09 jcamins_away Heh. Well, if it's publicly accessible, we can see what the highest biblionumber is.
03:09 jcamins_away If it's less than 9m, we know libwebcats is wrong. ;)
03:10 rangi 7 mill
03:10 jcamins_away 7m.
03:10 jcamins_away Still, a lot.
03:10 jcamins_away Way more than ERIC.
03:11 rangi http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]
03:12 rangi about the same size eh?
03:12 jcamins_away They seem to be using NOTIS still.
03:12 rangi[…]ha/
03:13 mtj whats NOTIS?
03:13 rangi[…]koha/
03:13 jcamins_away mtj: proprietary ILS.
03:13 rangi http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]
03:13 rangi exactly 1.5 mill apparently :)
03:14 mtj Type: National repository; Web Catalogue: webpac; System Vendor: epixtech, inc. (NOTIS, Dynix, Horizon);
03:14 mtj click
03:14 rangi
03:15 mtj w0w, what version of Koha is on?
03:15 rangi http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]
03:15 rangi check the source
03:15 jcamins_away Is NEU using Koha 2.something, or did they just completely reskin it?
03:15 rangi its 3, reskinned
03:15 rangi neu that is
03:15 jcamins_away Wow. That's quite different.
03:15 jcamins_away A shame they didn't share it.
03:16 rangi they did
03:16 rangi theres a dickhead to blame as to why its not in koha
03:16 jcamins_away They did?
03:16 jcamins_away Oh.
03:16 rangi yep
03:16 jcamins_away I guess I should've guessed that, huh?
03:16 rangi tumer was an active member of hte community
03:17 jcamins_away I really like NEU's interface.
03:17 rangi check out their map
03:17 rangi if you click on the callnumber
03:18 rangi anyway im sure if we asked they would make it available again and we could try to merge it back, would be hard work now tho
03:18 jcamins_away Awesome!
03:18 rangi[…]hp?g2_itemId=6917
03:18 rangi tumer is centre of the photo
03:19 jcamins_away It's really too bad their skin didn't make it in.
03:19 rangi on the left it goes, thd, ryan, cindi, tumer, sarah, antoine
03:19 rangi right, front to back
03:19 rangi pascale, then hdl
03:19 rangi the arm holding hte wineglass is kyle
03:20 rangi cindy (not with an i)
03:20 rangi[…]hp?g2_itemId=6896
03:20 rangi and this is still my best slide ever
03:20 rangi[…]hp?g2_itemId=9389
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03:21 jcamins_away I have to meet all these people I'm seeing pictures of.
03:22 rangi[…]p?g2_itemId=72379  <-- at the dev conference in 2006
03:23 druthb Why'd they put you two uber tall dudes in front, rangi?    ;-)
03:23 rangi me and paul? who knows :)
03:24 rangi i was trying to not even be in the photo
03:24 druthb you almost made it.
03:24 rangi[…]p?g2_itemId=10816
03:24 rangi a great one of mtj
03:24 druthb Normally, when I see a picture with women in the back and men in the front, they're all transpeople, since the women are taller than the men in those groups.... ;-)
03:25 druthb The look on the baby's face says, "I am the only sane person in this picture."  :)
03:25 rangi he was the only sane one in that office
03:25 rangi that was liblime nz
03:26 druthb lol
03:26 rangi[…].php?g2_itemId=97  <-- before
03:27 rangi[…]php?g2_itemId=115  <-- hide the power supply trick
03:27 rangi[…]php?g2_itemId=124 <-- after :)
03:27 rangi im done the koha photos rabbit hole now
03:28 * jcamins_away realizes what time it is and sets out to drag is wife off to bed so that she's not too tired to read Derrida tomorrow.
03:28 jcamins_away Good night, #koha.
03:28 jcamins_away Again.
03:28 rangi night
03:28 druthb night, jcamins
03:29 mtj cheers chris :)
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03:38 AmitG heya chris
03:38 AmitG heya kmkale
03:39 kmkale Hi AmitG
03:48 Steve_Tonnesen Anybody around?
03:53 rangi hi Steve_Tonnesen
03:53 Steve_Tonnesen Chris!
03:53 Steve_Tonnesen Thought I missed you, what with the 'night' and all.
03:53 AmitG heya steve_Tonnesen
03:54 Steve_Tonnesen Are you still with Katipo down there?
03:54 rangi nope, catalyst
03:54 rangi
03:54 Steve_Tonnesen Same kind of work?
03:54 rangi yup
03:54 Steve_Tonnesen You running the show this time?
03:55 rangi heh naw, thats too much like hard word
03:55 rangi k
03:55 Steve_Tonnesen I hear you.
03:55 rangi hows things with you? you still with cmsd ?
03:55 Steve_Tonnesen Do you still work with Horowhenua?
03:55 rangi yes indeed
03:55 Steve_Tonnesen Nope.  I've moved on from there.
03:55 rangi  upgraded them to 3.2 last year
03:56 Steve_Tonnesen I went back to school and got my teaching certificate, and taught up north for a couple of years.  Now we've moved down to warmer climes, and I'm back working as a tech again.
03:56 rangi ahh cool
03:56 rangi in BC still?
03:56 Steve_Tonnesen Damn, Koha's looking nice, I must say.
03:56 rangi i will be in vancouver in october
03:56 rangi for Access
03:56 Steve_Tonnesen Still BC, but about as close to you as I could get.  Tip of Vancouver Island.  Very warm!  Lovin' it.
03:57 rangi
03:57 rangi be neat to catch up :)
03:58 Steve_Tonnesen Hmm.  Wonder if I could get my boss to send me across the water for that.  I don't do much library stuff here.  I'm just setting Koha up for a First Nations band that is affiliated with my wife's school.
03:58 Steve_Tonnesen Totally an on-the-side project.
03:58 Steve_Tonnesen Right down to me actually cataloguing the books. Thank goodness they don't have many yet.  :)
03:58 rangi :-)
03:59 Steve_Tonnesen I'm heading over to Vancouver next week to do some course work on enterprise wireless set ups.  I should be ready for another trip by October, right?
03:59 rangi if you cant make it, ill just have to use that as an excuse to visit vancouver island :)
03:59 Steve_Tonnesen I'll work on him.
04:00 Steve_Tonnesen My big Koha disappointment so far, is I haven't had to make anything work yet.  :P
04:01 rangi heh
04:01 rangi well we will be doing a bit of a hackfest pre conference, on probably both evergreen and koha so im sure we can find some things for you to fix :)
04:01 Steve_Tonnesen I'm just starting to have flashbacks of getting Z39.50 in Koha.  Thank god I didn't have to go through that again.
04:02 rangi hehe yeah
04:03 Steve_Tonnesen How many active developers are working on Koha nowadays?
04:03 rangi hmm lemme see for march so far
04:03 rangi 30 different people have had patches pushed into master
04:04 rangi and for the last release 3.2.6 here are some stats
04:04 rangi[…]istics-for-3-2-6/
04:04 Steve_Tonnesen Owen is Nelsonville, right?
04:04 rangi we now do monthly maintenance releases
04:04 rangi yep thats right
04:05 rangi so that was from feb 22, to march 22 (3.2.6)
04:05 Steve_Tonnesen They were just starting to dig in when I bowed out.  LibLime is all new to me too.  How key are they?
04:05 rangi not key at all anymore
04:05 rangi they lost their minds
04:05 rangi its a long sad story
04:05 Steve_Tonnesen Hehe.  Okay.   I'll look it up.
04:06 Steve_Tonnesen Do they own
04:06 rangi yeah
04:06 rangi hence
04:06 rangi which is where everyone else hangs out
04:06 Steve_Tonnesen I'll fix my bookmarks.  Google isn't your friend there though.
04:06 * druthb puts on her asbestos burqa, Just In Case.
04:06 rangi yeah, theres years worth of links to overcome
04:07 rangi
04:07 rangi we made sure hlt owned the domain this time, so it cant happen again
04:08 Steve_Tonnesen Well, I just wanted to send out a big Hello.  The libraries in my district are all using a local BC system, and I don't think there's any push to change at all, but I'll make sure word of this small Koha installation gets out and see what falls.
04:09 rangi excellent :) great to catch up with you again
04:09 rangi and dont be a stranger :)
04:09 Steve_Tonnesen I'd better get back to cataloguing.  Don't ever let a librarian look at this collection.  :)
04:09 rangi[…]ster/authors.html  your name lives on, with your 185 commits ;)
04:10 Steve_Tonnesen What?  That whippersnapper Paul Poulain passed me?  I'd better get back to work.
04:10 rangi :)
04:11 rangi right time for me to catch my bus
04:11 Steve_Tonnesen That number is only that low because I kept my own CVS where I did my 3,875 total disaster commits, though.
04:11 Steve_Tonnesen Great chatting.  I've got October in my calendar.
04:11 rangi excellent
04:11 rangi feel free to lurk :)
04:12 Steve_Tonnesen you bet.
04:12 * rangi wanders off to the bus stop
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04:29 * rangi pops in from the bus
04:35 rangi @wunder wellington nz
04:35 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (5:00 PM NZDT on March 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
04:35 rangi lovely evening
04:39 Steve_Tonnesen @wunder victoria ca
04:39 huginn Steve_Tonnesen: The current temperature in Interstate 8 at West Victoria - Osborn, Alpine, California is 10.1�C (9:26 PM PDT on March 27, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady).
04:40 Steve_Tonnesen @wunder victoria bc canada
04:40 huginn Steve_Tonnesen: Error: No such location could be found.
04:40 Steve_Tonnesen @wunder victoria canada
04:40 huginn Steve_Tonnesen: The current temperature in Victoria, British Columbia is 8.0�C (9:00 PM PDT on March 27, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
04:41 rangi @quote random
04:41 huginn rangi: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 04:18 PM, August 06, 2009)
04:42 rangi heres something that might help when cataloguing Steve_Tonnesen
04:42 rangi @marc 700
04:42 huginn rangi: An added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,​o,p,q,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8]
04:42 rangi @marc 700a
04:42 huginn rangi: unknown tag 700a
04:42 brendan_ @wunder 93109
04:42 huginn brendan_: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 11.4�C (9:43 PM PDT on March 27, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
04:42 rangi hmm maybe it can't do subfields
04:43 Steve_Tonnesen Yup.  I've used that one a few times.  Mostly, I've been lucky.  These are almost all First Nations books, but I've been getting MARC records out of the Vancouver Public Library for all of them so far.
04:43 rangi excellent
04:46 rangi im not aware of any other first nation libraries using koha
04:47 rangi a know a native american fishing authority uses it
04:47 rangi maybe one in Alaska too
04:48 rangi afgonak rings a bell ill google when I get home
04:53 druthb off to bed!
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06:12 cait morning #koha
06:12 brendan_ heya cait
06:13 rangi evening
06:13 cait hi brendan and rangi
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06:37 Cybermon hi there
06:38 rangi hi Cybermon
06:38 cait bye all :)
06:38 rangi cya cait
06:39 Cybermon i have some problem importing the catalog.
06:39 Cybermon rangi: can i ask my problem ?
06:39 rangi yes
06:41 Cybermon i was imported my catalog data via Stage MARC Records For Import
06:41 rangi right
06:42 Cybermon but When I using the Manage Staged MARC Records. Server's power off.
06:42 rangi you mean the server crashes?
06:42 rangi literally reboots?
06:42 Cybermon when i click import this batch to catalog button. my process stopped 23 %.
06:43 rangi but the server didnt turn off?
06:43 Cybermon no server crash.
06:43 brendan_ how many records are you importing ?
06:43 rangi and if you check it later, has it finished?
06:44 Cybermon about 23416 biblio
06:44 rangi right
06:44 rangi stage marc import is not designed for that many
06:44 brendan_ that will take time
06:44 brendan_ rangi++
06:44 rangi but it will work, it will keep going even if it looks like it stopped
06:44 rangi what i would do for that many records
06:45 rangi is use from the commandline on the server
06:45 rangi it is in misc/migration_tools/
06:45 rangi (altho your staged one might finish eventually)
06:45 Cybermon can i click again import this batch into catalog ?
06:45 rangi not safely
06:46 Cybermon if you tell the command, i hope that can be use via command line.
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06:47 rangi Cybermon: do you want to keep what is in the catalogue at the moment? or do you want to wipe it out and load in those records fresh?
06:49 Cybermon maybe Can I delete bibio, biblioitems, items, auth_header, sessions, zebraqueue field. I can import again.
06:49 brendan_ Cybermon where are you from?
06:49 Cybermon Mongolia.
06:49 brendan_ ah cool - welcome
06:49 rangi Cybermon: if you use bulkmarcimport it will do all that for you
06:49 rangi so on the server
06:49 Cybermon i think that is faster way.
06:49 rangi export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/your/koha-conf.xml
06:49 Cybermon okay.
06:49 rangi ./misc/migration_tools/ -d -file /path/to/your/marc_file
06:49 Cybermon i see
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06:50 rangi http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]lkmarcimport.html
06:50 rangi hi paul_p
06:51 rangi brendan++
06:53 brendan_ heya paul_p
06:53 brendan_ yeah perldoc is great :)
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07:01 brendan_ heya hdl
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07:12 kf good morning #koha :)
07:13 magnuse hiya kf and #koha
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07:15 hdl hi brendan_ ... kinda early for you
07:15 hdl hi kf and all
07:15 brendan_ midnight :)
07:15 kf hi hdl :)
07:15 kf god morgen magnuse :)
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07:19 francharb hello #koha
07:20 magnuse hiya francharb
07:20 magnuse hope to see you in marseille in a week?
07:20 paul_p hello all (mainly rangi & brendan_ & magnuse)
07:20 brendan_ :D
07:20 magnuse :-D
07:20 kf hiya francharb :)
07:20 Cybermon Rangi: cross finger: now fresh process going
07:21 kf I share magnuse hopes!
07:24 hdl brendan_: hope everything is ok for you and your family.
07:24 hdl hi AmitG
07:24 brendan_ thanks hdl - that means a lot :)
07:24 brendan_ hdl++
07:24 brendan_ heya AmitG
07:25 AmitG heya hdl, brendan
07:36 Cybermon rangi: i have following message for display: 100................, 200..........., 300......... etc.... looks going!
07:38 rangi yep, that looks good :)
07:38 Cybermon thanks !
07:38 Cybermon Rangi: where are you from ?
07:39 rangi new zealand
07:39 Cybermon i see
07:39 brendan_ NZ++
07:39 brendan_ :)
07:39 rangi Cybermon: do you work for the the public library in Ulaanbaatar?
07:40 Cybermon no. i am supporing the koha installation for Public library in UB.
07:40 rangi ahh ok
07:40 rangi cool
07:41 Cybermon i am work for Mongolian Libraries consortium.
07:41 rangi is that the only library in Mongolia using Koha? or are there others?
07:43 Cybermon almost. of course, we have few customer from university library. but they are not access to Internet. i think that biggest koha converting system for Public library of UB.
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07:48 rangi ahh ok
07:50 Cybermon my next plan to support for National Library of Mongolia. :-)
07:51 rangi yay
07:51 Cybermon i think that your experience also important for us.
07:53 Cybermon dear all: anyone know to transfer Alice library software's patron data to koha ?
07:53 rangi can you get it out as csv ?
07:54 Cybermon not yet!
07:54 rangi always the hardest thing is getting the data out
07:55 rangi once you have it out and into csv you can use the import patrons tool in koha to load it in
07:55 Cybermon i see. where is CSV export button available for Alice ?
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07:56 rangi no idea, i have never used Alice
07:56 Cybermon ok ok
07:56 Cybermon thanks
07:57 rangi i try not to know anything about proprietary systems, then no one can accuse me of copying them :-)
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08:18 kf rangi++ :)
08:18 rangi igor++
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08:20 kf args g
08:21 * kf nick igor
08:21 rangi ?
08:21 kf hmpf
08:21 AmitG heya kf
08:21 rangi is now known as frankenstein
08:21 kf ... ignore me. can't type
08:21 * kf nick igor_
08:21 kf lol
08:21 kf is now known as igor_
08:21 igor_ ..
08:21 frankenstein :)
08:22 igor_ this was hard
08:22 frankenstein is now known as rangi
08:22 igor_ is now known as kf
08:23 kf rangi: is the acq branch done now?
08:24 magnuse it's monday...
08:24 kf magnuse: oh, right!
08:28 rangi kf: yes
08:29 rangi im working on the opac one now
08:30 kf cool :)
08:30 rangi well not right now, but tomorrow
08:30 jenkins_koha Starting build 80 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3203: ACCTDETAIL notices don't parse branches or borrowers tokens <[…]8f5b1624f1be6e8cb> / Bug 5960 : Itemtype icons not showing correctly in staff search results <[…]a4de76b9528db3d23>
08:37 paul_p magnuse, yes, we are monday, but do you know we slept for 2 months last we ? (see nicole last sign-off date = may, 22 !!!)
08:37 paul_p s/we are/it's/
08:38 magnuse paul_p: oh no, that means we missed all the fun in marseille!
08:40 kf what?
08:40 kf nooo....
08:40 paul_p it maybe a side effect of NZ EQ. Or Japan nuclear problem... or some terrorist that dropped a sleeping gaz all over Europe...
08:41 kf or nicole wrote from the future!
08:42 rangi thanks for the reply paul, that does help :) ill make a bug and reformat and send a patch for that tomorrow
08:43 paul_p rangi, about bug 5967, the bug is not clear to me.
08:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5967 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, NEW, OPAC performance enhancement, only deal with subscrition data, if the record has a subscription attached
08:44 rangi serial is not set until after the if
08:44 rangi $dat->{'serial'}=1 if $subscriptionsnumber;
08:45 rangi that will never get set, because its not set :)
08:52 paul_p rangi, right...
08:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5966 : MT 3010: Adds waiting date for holds in opac-user <[…]0f490d4176c1d05e4>
08:54 rangi[…]a2f02d75d7c9b3165
08:54 AmitG heya all it is possible to take report in ISBD format
08:56 rangi also i think the 955 is a unimarc thing?
08:58 rangi and for the future plack hates switchs :(
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09:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #80: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/80/
09:10 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5960 : Itemtype icons not showing correctly in staff search results
09:10 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 3203: ACCTDETAIL notices don't parse branches or borrowers tokens
09:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5960 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Itemtype icons not showing in search results
09:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3203 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, Some Letters template variables are not available to certain notice types
09:10 jenkins_koha Starting build 81 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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09:26 kf hi kmkale :)
09:27 kmkale hiya kf :)
09:31 AmitG heya kmkale
09:35 kmkale hi AmitG
09:46 paul_p 'evening kmkale & AmitG
09:47 kmkale hi paul_p
09:48 AmitG heya paul
09:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #81: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/81/
09:50 jenkins_koha Matthias Meusburger: Bug 5966 : MT 3010: Adds waiting date for holds in opac-user
09:50 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5966 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED, Add the date an item was marked waiting in holds
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10:06 kf how hard to fix is bug 3315?
10:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3315 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Aggregate SQL clauses break pagination in guided reports
10:10 kf ok stupid question :)
10:11 kf i was only wondering if there is a reason why the pagination problem might be hard to fix... like a special mysql problem or something
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10:23 AmitG heya kf
10:23 kf hi AmitG :)
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10:37 druthb o/
10:37 kf hi druthb :)
10:49 kmkale hi druthb
10:49 druthb :D  howdy
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11:07 nengard and to start my morning I've messed up my documentation git repos again ....
11:08 kmkale heya nengard
11:08 wahanui nengard is probably a blogger at
11:09 nengard probably?
11:09 nengard hi kmkale
11:09 kmkale nengard: can we have sticky links to Kohacon11 site on k-c?
11:10 nengard not yet
11:10 nengard we're working on moving off of WP so it's possible, but right now - not yet
11:10 AmitG heya nengard
11:10 mtj ooooh, from WP to what?
11:11 mtj heya folks
11:11 kmkale nengard: ok how about a link in the right hand column?
11:11 nengard mtj, a plain old webpage
11:11 kf why?
11:11 nengard so we can search it and have permalinks
11:11 nengard oh kmkale - I'm sorry!! It's monday morning
11:11 kf only the manual or everything?
11:11 nengard of course we can have that link
11:11 nengard and I'm sorry - i was thinking the manual
11:11 nengard not the K-c site
11:11 kf ah
11:11 kmkale heh
11:12 * kf hands nengard a cookie
11:12 nengard hehe
11:12 kf it's monday's fault
11:12 * kmkale hands nengard some cofee
11:12 mtj click....
11:12 * nengard is off of cookies ... and sugar ... another reason for the broken brain
11:12 nengard kmkale, wizzyrea controls those links on the side
11:12 nengard you can ask her to make that change
11:12 kmkale nengard: ok
11:15 * druthb reaches for the ibuprofen...gonna be that kinda day..
11:15 kmkale wizzyrea: ping
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11:31 nengard kmkale it's 6:30am where wizzyrea is - so I don't think she's in IRC yet
11:31 kmkale aahh. Thanks nengard
11:31 kmkale will try later
11:31 nengard you can have one of the bots tell her later
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11:32 kmkale @later tell wizzyrea Can we have link to kohacon11 site in the k-c site main page? url is
11:32 huginn kmkale: The operation succeeded.
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11:46 jcamins Good morning, #koha
11:49 kf hi jcamins :)
11:50 jcamins kf: Do you ever leave #koha?
11:51 jcamins ;)
11:53 kf hm... not sure
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11:58 paul_p hi nengard. So you're back to march for a few days ?
11:58 paul_p (morning jcamins too)
11:58 nengard hi paul_p
11:58 nengard not sure what that means :)
11:59 paul_p (see my mail on patches ML = you sent 3 mails from 2011, May. Happy to see you back on our time :D )
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12:00 druthb Folks, please make lbaerveldt welcome; he is the newest member of the ByWater team--starting today!
12:00 jcamins Hi, lbaerveldt!
12:00 paul_p hi lbaerveldt, and welcome, from Marseille, France
12:00 lbaerveldt Thanks, druthb, I'm glad to be here.
12:00 * jcamins shouldn't write so many patches that change the same files.
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12:01 kf hi Ibaerveldt
12:02 kf jcamins: I have the same problem :(
12:02 kf and hi JesseM
12:02 JesseM Morning kf :)
12:02 magnus_lunch welcome Ibaerveldt!
12:02 kf nengard: the conflicts you are noting will appear everytime chris pushes a database update
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12:03 nengard yup
12:03 kf nengard: could you perhaps fix them when you test? it would save a lot of time
12:03 kf and they are easy
12:03 NateC morning #koha
12:03 nengard kf, i'll check
12:03 nengard morning NateC
12:03 magnus_lunch hiya NateC
12:03 NateC :)
12:04 nengard kf is it only kohaversion?
12:04 kf hi NateC
12:04 kf it looks like it on the bug
12:04 kf do a git status
12:04 nengard i thought we weren't supposed to edit kohaversion - only chris edits that file
12:04 kf after the git am
12:04 NateC Hi kf
12:04 kf it will show you the conflict files
12:05 kf it can conflict in updatedatabase too
12:05 kf I am not sure about that - he never complained about my patches doing that
12:05 kf I set it to XXX
12:05 nengard in the most recent it was only kohaversion if you don't edit that file when you create patches then there won't be a conflict in the future
12:05 nengard you update 'updatedatabase' but not the version
12:05 nengard i think it's on the wiki
12:08 nengard after i resolve the merge issues what do I do to get it back into the patch?
12:08 nengard and test it?
12:08 jcamins git add ${FILE}
12:08 jcamins git commit --amend
12:08 nengard do i do the amend before testing?
12:08 kf git am --continue I think
12:09 jcamins Oh, right.
12:09 jcamins What kf said.
12:09 jcamins Sorry.
12:09 kf a git add and after that git am --continue
12:09 * jcamins is still sleepy.
12:09 nengard k
12:09 nengard testing 5897
12:13 kf thx nengard
12:13 nengard signed off
12:13 wahanui i heard signed off was approval
12:13 kf wahanui botsnack cookie
12:13 wahanui thanks kf :)
12:14 kf I solved the conflicts and rebased the patch you tested earlier - but it will probably have new conflicts now
12:14 kf or if you test fast before chris puses - it will be ok :)
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12:15 kf hi oleonard :)
12:15 oleonard Hi
12:15 wahanui hello, oleonard
12:17 nengard is the wiki down?
12:18 oleonard It came up very slowly for me nengard
12:18 druthb it seems a little slow, but it came up for me.
12:18 nengard thanks oleonard - i've been having internet issues so i wasn't sure if it was me
12:18 magnus_lunch veeery slow from here
12:20 kf nengard: I had problems with the wiki too
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12:43 jwagner hdl, online?
12:43 hdl jwagner: yes.
12:43 hdl How are you ?
12:44 hdl back from vacations... and silence
12:44 jwagner Am revisiting my Bug 4447, and chris asked if your Bug 3042 patch fixed it.
12:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4447 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Allow external URL/storage location for XSLT stylesheets
12:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3042 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED MOVED, Add more details to OPAC search results RSS
12:44 jwagner I'm trying to read the 3042 patch -- it says "Changing XSLT sysprefs to take filename" but so far I'm not seeing how that's done.
12:45 jwagner Does it allow for remote storage of XSLT stylesheets?
12:46 hdl If you add http:// it gets the stylesheet.
12:46 hdl but you need to add that.
12:47 hdl in the syspref.
12:47 jwagner And the bugzilla entry for 3042 seems to be limited to RSS feed.  Are these together?
12:48 hdl I have done some additional work in order to keep the previous syspref type and adding two preferences. But have not been able to take time to test.
12:48 jwagner So this hasn't been pushed yet?
12:54 jwagner I'm only finding two of the three patch files in the mail archive.  Could you attach them to either the 4447 or 3042 bugzilla entries?
12:57 jwagner And welcome back from vacation :-)
12:59 * jcamins drags his cat away from his muffin, having finally managed to distract Myshkin from the water glass.
12:59 kf hehe
13:03 * jcamins curses the default editor on Debian.
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13:25 jwagner hdl, see my new comments on Bug 4447 after looking at your patches and current code.
13:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4447 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Allow external URL/storage location for XSLT stylesheets
13:27 wizzyrea hi did somebody need something?
13:28 wizzyrea oh never mind, huginn just told me
13:29 hdl jwagner: yes... you're right... I think we could add a test in the function which builds a name...
13:30 jwagner I didn't know -- do the translations now handle the XSLT files so that we need separate language directories?
13:30 kf yes they do
13:30 jwagner So preserving the directory structure would be important then, even if we're storing copies remotely.
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13:30 kf the translations for the xslt files are handled by the po files :)
13:31 oleonard What is items.materials supposed to contain?
13:31 jwagner kf, how would that work with the discussion in 4447?
13:34 oleonard I see items.materials is mapped to 952 3 "Materials specified (bound volume or other part)" In what kind of situation would that be used?
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13:39 kf jwagner: I think saving remotely can cause different problems, language only being one of them
13:40 jwagner kf, what other problems?
13:40 kf perhaps security warnigns for cross site scripting
13:40 kf like we have with https and amazon?
13:41 jwagner Hmmm.  Not familiar with those.  Is there a bug report? Can you describe the problem in 4447?
13:41 kf not right now, I am aboutto go home for today
13:42 jwagner When you get a chance.  I have a possible sponsor and want to consider all the ramifications before we do a full spec.
13:42 jwagner Thanks.
13:43 oleonard I wouldn't want to spend time helping work on a spec for a development that wouldn't be contributed back to Koha
13:43 jwagner oleonard, it will be contributed.
13:44 oleonard Oh, good news
13:44 wahanui somebody said good news was they rescued 11 over night
13:44 oleonard wahanui: forget good news
13:44 wahanui oleonard: I forgot good news
13:50 jcamins oleonard: you were working on a patch to do with tracings in search results. Unfortunately, I can't find it.
13:50 jcamins Anyway, if you have any idea what I'm talking about, do you have a follow-up patch for sign-off?
13:51 oleonard Tracings in search results?
13:51 jcamins Yeah. Clicking authors, that sort of thing.
13:51 jcamins Something to do with limits?
13:51 oleonard Ah right, let me look
13:51 oleonard Bug 5817
13:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5817 major, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Malformed author search link breaks sorting on results page
13:52 jcamins That's the one!
13:53 oleonard Unfortunately I don't have a follow-up patch. I've been away from my computer more this month than I've been at it.
13:53 jcamins Ah. Just checking.
13:53 jcamins FWIW, that sounds wonderful. ;)
13:53 oleonard It's Fridolyn's comment that needs to be followed up on
13:55 jcamins Oh, I bet that's related to the CCL query problem.
13:55 jcamins bug 5274
13:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5274 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, CCL prefixes break search limits
13:56 oleonard My patch simply changed the syntax of the search links, perhaps that works around Bug 5274?
14:00 wizzyrea is slow for anybody else?
14:00 jcamins nengard mentioned that earlier.
14:00 wizzyrea oh okies
14:00 nengard bug mentioning it didn't fix it :) hehe
14:01 wizzyrea @later tell gmcharlt: what's the dilly with tha wiki?
14:01 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
14:01 oleonard wizzyrea: It's slow for me but works eventually
14:01 wizzyrea @later tell gmcharlt it's wicked slow (9am Monday)
14:01 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
14:01 gmcharlt wizzyrea: slow just now
14:01 gmcharlt ?
14:01 wizzyrea ok that was odd. I stopped it and it showed up
14:02 wizzyrea is there spam on the home page?
14:02 wizzyrea it's a bit faster now... still 11 seconds
14:02 wizzyrea it's usually perkier than that
14:09 gmcharlt hmm, I see what you mean
14:09 magnus_lunch a newly created subscription starts out as expired - does that sound familiar to anyone? can't find it on bugzilla...
14:09 gmcharlt magnus_lunch: IIRC, that's been an long-standing bug, but I thought it was fixed
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14:10 kmkale wizzyrea: did you get my message about KOhacon11 link on k-c?
14:10 wizzyrea i did :)
14:10 kmkale :)
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14:11 jcamins kmkale: hello!
14:11 kmkale hi jcamins
14:11 wizzyrea kmkale:
14:11 jcamins kmkale: you were involved in the analytics stuff, right?
14:11 kmkale wizzyrea: Thanks. Should have chceked the site before asking ;)
14:11 tcohen hi #koha
14:11 wizzyrea if you'd like to make a post about it, I can give you rights to do that
14:11 wizzyrea :)
14:12 wizzyrea kmkale: it's no bother to me to answer questions :)
14:12 magnuse thanks gmcharlt - looks like it's bug 4286 - i'll have closer look at that
14:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4286 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Subscription expired at its creation
14:12 kmkale jcamins: not yet. want to
14:12 jcamins kmkale: oh.
14:12 jcamins I was going to ask to have the revised patch resent.
14:12 wizzyrea hi tcohen
14:12 jcamins April 1 is coming up.
14:13 wizzyrea I keep reading ACCTDETAIL notices as "accidental notices"
14:13 jcamins Me too!
14:13 kmkale jcamins: I think the analytics patches were from Amit and Savitra
14:14 jcamins kmkale: okay, thanks.
14:14 * wizzyrea thinks they must be the "oops, your books are overdue! I'm sure you didn't mean to do that" notices
14:15 gmcharlt wizzyrea: somebody is looking at it now, will ping on #koha
14:15 * gmcharlt has to run off to a meeting
14:15 jcamins Does anyone know Savitra/Amit's nicks?
14:15 wizzyrea thanks gmcharlt :)
14:15 wizzyrea amit used to be "amit"
14:16 wizzyrea back on irc.katipo
14:16 magnuse AmitG was here earlier today
14:16 wizzyrea ^^ seems likely
14:17 jcamins @later tell AmitG If you're the one who wrote the analytics code, could you please send the revised patches to the list?
14:17 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
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14:23 druthb sekjal++
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14:24 jcamins druthb++
14:25 oleonard Everybody++!!
14:25 * oleonard just got caught up in the excitement
14:25 wizzyrea oleonard: i'm glad you're back :)
14:29 * oleonard likes working on Koha almost as much as he likes vacation
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14:32 kmkale wizzyrea: I will take you up on your offer later this week. Been working on a piece somewhere on the lines of About VPM, Thane, India and Koha in India.
14:33 wizzyrea kmkale: I will go ahead and set up your account that way the next time you log in (if you have a login, that is) you'll be ready to go
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14:38 jcamins C4::Search--
14:38 leed The wiki should be back up and function now.  It was totally locked up, lots of blocking messages on the console, had to reboot it.   I bet it ran out of memory and swap if I had to guess.  I'll give it more memory if it happens again.
14:39 oleonard Thanks leed
14:39 leed np
14:41 wizzyrea thanks leed :)
14:41 wizzyrea leed++
14:43 magnuse leed++
14:44 magnuse leed: is there any chance you could have a look at the list of categories that is displayed when you try to edit a page too?
14:44 magnuse leed: it used to display a list of categories with checkboxes, now it seems to be some sort of list of templates...
14:50 jcamins C4::Search--
14:54 magnuse jcamins: you just said that... ;-) (which is, by the way, one of my favourite marx brothers quotes)
14:54 jcamins magnuse: and I'm going to say it again.
14:54 jcamins I'm looking at bug 5274, and it's *awful*.
14:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5274 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, CCL prefixes break search limits
14:54 magnuse @karma C4::Search
14:54 huginn magnuse: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of -3.
14:56 magnuse is there any difference between 'First issue publication date' and 'Subscription start date' on serials/
15:03 * oleonard has always been confused about that too
15:10 wizzyrea jcamins++ for fixing bug 3326
15:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3326 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, xml entity refs display incorrectly in results page if exported and indexed as xml
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15:13 Raothmist Hello!
15:13 oleonard Hi Raothmist
15:14 Raothmist first time here XD
15:14 Raothmist hey i read a lot in the irc for some bug in koha
15:15 Raothmist and..... i cant solve it yet
15:15 Raothmist :(
15:15 Raothmist DBD driver has not implemented the AutoCommit attribute at /usr/lib/perl5/ line 705.
15:17 jcamins Sounds like you're missing something.
15:17 jcamins How did you install Koha?
15:18 Raothmist Well i make an upgrade from 3.0 to 3.2
15:18 jcamins What OS?
15:18 Raothmist Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
15:18 jcamins Using packages?
15:19 Raothmist yep al updated
15:19 Raothmist all*
15:19 oleonard Interesting that a Koha list message is on the first page of Google results for "DBD driver has not implemented the AutoCommit attribute"
15:19 oleonard[…]-June/018918.html
15:19 Raothmist yep is the first bug in face in koha
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15:20 Raothmist and the most anoying one at least
15:21 Raothmist well i enter into the DBD file to acces for some script problem
15:21 Raothmist but is fine :s
15:22 wizzyrea only suggestion is to update perl, but surely ubuntu 10.04 has up-to-date perl
15:22 wizzyrea I wonder if you're missing some dependencies?
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15:22 wizzyrea there are a lot of new ones in 3.2
15:22 Raothmist Yes i always updated ubuntu
15:22 jcamins Try installing DBD::mysql with CPAN?
15:23 Raothmist well the DBD driver its new in koha
15:23 Raothmist i 3.2 i mean
15:23 Raothmist i tried DBD on cpan
15:23 jcamins Check your my.cnf.
15:24 jcamins Possibly a problem with that.
15:24 Raothmist but it always send an error and never let me do it
15:24 wizzyrea ^^ is probably a clue
15:24 Raothmist so i donwloaded and install it manually
15:24 jcamins Raothmist: oh, in that case it's probably DBD and you'll need to fix whatever the problem is.
15:24 wizzyrea as in: an older version of DBD
15:24 wizzyrea (my hunch)
15:25 Raothmist uumm probably let me check in cpan
15:25 Raothmist do you know what's the last version??
15:26 Raothmist the command in cpan for cheking the version is?
15:26 wizzyrea you could try sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl
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15:26 Raothmist Yes i hav that lib
15:27 wizzyrea (you might have to clean out your other dbd first, we'll see)
15:27 Raothmist that lib is used on koha 3.0
15:27 Raothmist remember i make an upgrade from 3.0 to 3.2
15:27 jcamins Raothmist: try reinstalling.
15:27 jcamins It's not working, right?
15:27 Raothmist from 0?
15:28 jcamins Try reinstalling libdbd-mysql-perl.
15:28 jcamins Not Koha.
15:28 Raothmist ah ok ok
15:30 Raothmist ok done
15:30 wizzyrea no error?
15:30 Raothmist well removing it no
15:30 Raothmist lets instaing
15:30 Raothmist installing
15:32 Raothmist Setting up libdbd-mysql-perl (4.012-1ubuntu1) ..
15:32 Raothmist done!
15:32 wizzyrea what version did it remove?
15:32 wizzyrea if you have scrollback
15:33 Raothmist yep i hav it let me check
15:34 Raothmist root@Big-Daddy:/home/kick-ass# sudo apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl
15:34 Raothmist Reading package lists... Done
15:34 Raothmist Building dependency tree
15:34 Raothmist Reading state information... Done
15:34 Raothmist The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
15:34 Raothmist libhtml-template-perl mysql-server-core-5.1
15:34 Raothmist Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
15:34 Raothmist The following packages will be REMOVED:
15:34 Raothmist libdbd-mysql-perl mysql-client mysql-client-5.1 mysql-server
15:34 Raothmist mysql-server-5.1
15:34 Raothmist 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
15:34 Raothmist After this operation, 35.5MB disk space will be freed.
15:34 Raothmist Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
15:34 Raothmist (Reading database ... 310479 files and directories currently installed.)
15:34 Raothmist Removing mysql-server ...
15:34 Raothmist Removing mysql-server-5.1 ...
15:34 Raothmist mysql stop/waiting
15:34 Raothmist Removing mysql-client ...
15:34 Raothmist Removing mysql-client-5.1 ...
15:34 Raothmist Removing libdbd-mysql-perl ...
15:34 Raothmist Processing triggers for man-db ...
15:34 Raothmist Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
15:34 oleonard Mercy.
15:34 Raothmist ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
15:34 Raothmist root@Big-Daddy:/home/kick-ass# sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl
15:34 Raothmist Reading package lists... Done
15:34 Raothmist Building dependency tree
15:34 Raothmist Reading state information... Done
15:34 Raothmist The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
15:34 Raothmist libhtml-template-perl mysql-client-core-5.1 mysql-server-core-5.1
15:34 Raothmist Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
15:35 Raothmist The following NEW packages will be installed:
15:35 Raothmist libdbd-mysql-perl
15:35 Raothmist 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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15:35 Raothmist Selecting previously deselected package libdbd-mysql-perl.
15:35 Raothmist (Reading database ... 310325 files and directories currently installed.)
15:35 Raothmist Unpacking libdbd-mysql-perl (from .../libdbd-mysql-perl_4.012-1ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
15:35 Raothmist Processing triggers for man-db ...
15:35 Raothmist Setting up libdbd-mysql-perl (4.012-1ubuntu1) ...
15:35 Raothmist hahaha
15:35 Raothmist it takes all mysq
15:35 Raothmist mysql
15:35 Raothmist but this is a test server so its no problem to experiment
15:36 wizzyrea :) for future reference, if you want to paste a bunch of stuff, you can use
15:36 Raothmist uum... ok ok thx :D
15:37 Raothmist ok lets see... i ned to reinstall all mysql >:O
15:37 Raothmist need*
15:38 Raothmist and...... done!
15:38 jcamins Anyone know how to repopulate cn_sort?
15:38 jcamins Globally.
15:40 c_afk jcamins: I fear you will need perl for that
15:40 * jcamins fears that too.
15:41 Raothmist indeed!
15:42 oleonard druthb: Do you recall ever seeing such a script?
15:42 * druthb recalls *writing* one, once, I think, but that's been aeons ago.
15:43 druthb Was Perl hackery, natch.
15:43 * oleonard thought he remembered hearing of one, thought it might have been a Liblime thing
15:44 jcamins sekjal had one.
15:44 sekjal got one to touch all items, and another to touch all biblios
15:45 * jcamins suspects he may have been the cause for the touch biblios one.
15:46 jcamins lbaerveldt++
15:49 jcamins Well, drat.
15:49 * jcamins watches his terminal as it is engulfed by errors.
15:51 jcamins @karma lbaerveldt
15:51 huginn jcamins: Karma for "lbaerveldt" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
15:51 jcamins @karma C4::Search
15:51 huginn jcamins: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of -3.
15:51 jcamins C4::Search--
15:51 jcamins @karma C4::Search
15:51 huginn jcamins: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -4.
15:52 Raothmist DBD driver has not implemented the AutoCommit attribute at /usr/lib/perl5/ line 705
15:52 oleonard jcamins: Have you determined the optimum delay before you can downvote C4::Search again? :)
15:52 Raothmist sames problem
15:52 jcamins oleonard: I was demonstrating karma.
15:52 jcamins And what better use of karma than to downvote C4::Search again?
15:53 jcamins oleonard++ # 'cause he deserves karma, too
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15:54 Raothmist that DBD starting to anoying me a ot
15:54 Raothmist lot*
15:55 oleonard nengard: Just sent a response to your question about the opacstylesheet preference bug
15:55 druthb lbaerveldt++
15:57 * oleonard missed the introductions
15:57 oleonard Hi lbaerveldt and welcome
15:57 nengard thanks oleonard - i'm finding the bug report now
15:58 lbaerveldt @oleanard: Thanks. It's good to be here.
15:58 huginn lbaerveldt: I suck
15:58 nengard bug 5833
15:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5833 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, opacstylesheet not loading on all pages
15:58 jcamins lbaerveldt: use a : after the name.
15:58 oleonard lbaerveldt: You don't need the "@" That's why huginn complained :)
15:58 c_afk !huginn botsnack cookie
15:58 c_afk huginn botsnack cookie
15:58 huginn c_afk: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
15:58 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
15:58 c_afk :(
15:58 jcamins @botsnack cookie
15:58 huginn jcamins: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:58 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
15:58 pastebot "Raothmist" at pasted "Software error: DBD driver has" (7 lines) at
15:59 lbaerveldt OK, thanks. I'm still new to IRC.
15:59 druthb wahanui: lbaerveldt?
15:59 wahanui lbaerveldt is Larry Baerveldt, the newest member of the ByWater Solutions Team.
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16:01 nengard hi lbaerveldt - you need an easier username to type :) hehehe
16:01 jcamins nengard: when LBA isn't on, lb<tab> should do it. :)
16:01 oleonard
16:02 nengard jcamins no in xhcat
16:02 nengard xchat
16:02 nengard what are you using?
16:02 jcamins nengard: irssi.
16:02 oleonard nengard: No tab-completion in xchat?
16:02 jcamins oleonard: that's awesome!
16:02 c_afk pidgin does it too - druthb taught me :)
16:02 nengard not by default ... might be a setting
16:02 nengard when i hit tab it takes me to the next tab i have open
16:02 nengard :)
16:02 lbaerveldt nengard: I've heard that before. I may switch to larryb.
16:03 nengard :)
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16:04 bureado Hey
16:04 bureado Raothmist: ping
16:04 Raothmist Epale!
16:05 Raothmist estoy que pateo el koha
16:05 Raothmist xD
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16:46 oleonard jcamins: Found it
16:46 jcamins oleonard: found what?
16:46 oleonard The opacstylesheet bug
16:46 jcamins Oh, right.
16:46 jcamins Sorry, I was just working on another one of your patches and got confused.
16:47 oleonard I thought there was another section of just for the login page but didn't properly search for it
16:47 wizzyrea wow, that's rather odd
16:47 wizzyrea
16:47 * wizzyrea goes to investigate
16:48 * jcamins thinks that CCL2RPN is buggy.
16:48 oleonard wizzyrea: I remember a bug report related to that
16:49 wizzyrea hum, lemme go check my test server (squee)
16:49 oleonard Bug 5734?
16:49 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5734 minor, P5, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Fix column order in issue history
16:49 wizzyrea ah yea
16:49 wizzyrea I'm not going to worry about it
16:49 wizzyrea it's not reflected in our test db
16:50 wizzyrea aha, yes, that's the one
16:50 wizzyrea thanks oleonard
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16:53 oleonard Hi joetho
16:53 joetho OWEN!!
16:55 wizzyrea joetho!
16:56 joetho OBAMA!
16:58 nengard ??
17:05 oleonard Isn't there a bug for the Biblibre duplicate patron enhancement? I can't seem to find it
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17:05 oleonard Oh, because it's already marked fixed: Bug 5432.
17:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5432 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED FIXED, Duplicate patron feature
17:07 rangi[…]5&hide_resolved=0
17:07 rangi thats how i finded it
17:08 rangi 5574, 5575, 5580, 5581 and im working on 5584 now, to build up bugs for all of them
17:09 rangi (bugs and patches thats is)
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17:23 oleonard What the heck is this supposed to do?
17:23 oleonard <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="StaffMember" --><!-- TMPL_IF NAME="CAN_user_staffaccess" --> new YAHOO.widget.Button("changepassword");  <!-- /TMPL_IF-->
17:24 oleonard <!-- TMPL_ELSE--> new YAHOO.widget.Button("changepassword"); <!-- /TMPL_IF -->
17:24 * jcamins has no idea.
17:24 * druthb scrolls back, and wonders if joetho notices people looking at him confusedly all the time...   ;-)
17:24 rangi seems rather pointless to me
17:24 oleonard If they're a "StaffMember" and they have CAN_user_staff access show the change password button, otherwise show the change password button?!
17:24 c_afk oloeonard: staff members can't change passwords of each other?
17:24 c_afk ah
17:24 c_afk ok, no idea
17:25 * oleonard sees it's a remnant of a lot of "if StaffMember" stuff which doesn't exist anymore
17:25 rangi yeah, its broken
17:25 oleonard That stuff was just too agile for Koha
17:29 rangi
17:30 oleonard Yeah, but the agile opponent lies in wait, ready to spring in an agile manner. You have to wait for it... and wait...
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17:49 nengard webinar time
17:49 nengard be back
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17:56 jcamins c_afk: when you get back, I have a question about bug 5901.
17:56 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5901 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Make virtualshelves permissions more granular
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18:13 oleonard See y'all later
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18:24 melparker Sorry for the name spam.  Getting used to a new client.
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18:33 alfredoero hi
18:33 wahanui hello, alfredoero
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18:34 alfredoero how you doing ppl?
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18:50 * rangi waves from the bus
18:51 Raothmist Hello!
18:51 pastebot "Raothmist" at pasted "Can't connect to MySQL server" (5 lines) at
18:53 wizzyrea the username and password to the DB is correct?
18:54 rangi and the db is running?
18:54 wizzyrea ^^
18:56 Raothmist yep is running
18:57 Raothmist and the username and password is correct
18:57 Raothmist may i need to use grant all acces in myql?
18:57 Raothmist mysql*
18:57 wizzyrea yep, that would be your likely next step in troubleshooting
18:58 Raothmist the complete code for mysql?
18:58 wizzyrea grant all on <kohadatabasename>.* to '<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>';
18:59 wizzyrea no <> of course
18:59 Raothmist but is kohauser or kohadatauser?
19:00 jcamins Raothmist: you will have to figure out what username you have configured and use that.
19:00 Raothmist for the DB is koha and the user kohaadmin
19:00 wizzyrea grant all on koha.* to 'kohaadmin@'localhost' identified by 'the password you assigned;
19:01 wizzyrea grant all on koha.* to 'kohaadmin@'localhost' identified by 'the password you assigned';
19:01 jcamins You're missing a single quote.
19:01 jcamins 'kohaadmin'
19:02 Raothmist ok
19:03 wizzyrea ya, hence the 2nd :)
19:05 wizzyrea Raothmist: is your db on the same machine as koha?
19:05 Raothmist yep
19:06 wizzyrea curious that it's connecting by IP and not to localhost
19:06 Raothmist and the same problem i cant acces
19:07 Raothmist that's the ip from the computer
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19:08 Raothmist server i mena
19:08 Raothmist mean*
19:08 wizzyrea when you did your did you specify the IP or localhost?
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19:09 Raothmist nop but i change it in the koha-conf.xml
19:09 wizzyrea from localhost to the IP?
19:10 Raothmist yes
19:10 wizzyrea and it doesn't work with localhost either?
19:10 Raothmist let me check
19:11 Raothmist it work
19:11 wizzyrea hooray!
19:12 Raothmist thx dude
19:12 c_afk wizzyrea++ :)
19:12 wizzyrea np ;)
19:12 wizzyrea yvw
19:18 magnuse yvw is You're Very Welcome
19:18 magnuse yvw?
19:18 wahanui well, yvw is You're Very Welcome
19:19 Raothmist Oh ok ok!! XD cool
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19:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5817: Follow-up fixing callnum: on staff results <[…]1a6ebf28e7cc29c85> / Merge remote branch 'kc/master' into new/bug_5817 <[…]51d108cc4a2155388>
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20:12 jcamins That's weird.
20:12 jcamins Bug 5274 seems to be working now.
20:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5274 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, CCL prefixes break search limits
20:12 jcamins I mean, the functionality that I reported bug 5274 about.
20:12 jcamins It did not work yesterday.
20:13 rangi voodoo
20:13 c_afk vodoo?
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20:27 jcamins Okay, here's a thought about handling question marks and parentheses.
20:28 jcamins What about stripping question marks and parentheses when there are no quotes and no colons or equal signs?
20:28 jcamins (in the query)
20:29 rangi ?
20:29 jcamins Bug 5651.
20:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5651 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, can't use ? character in searches
20:29 * jcamins can't believe that everyone in #koha didn't just read his mind to find out what he was talking about.
20:30 rangi so stripping the ?
20:30 jcamins In cases where there are no CCL operators.
20:30 rangi getting too many results is better than getting none i guess
20:31 jcamins Right.
20:31 rangi how about escaping it
20:31 rangi like we did with ( )
20:31 jcamins Hm.
20:31 rangi if its not part of a ccl query
20:31 jcamins Put quotes around the word including the question mark?
20:32 rangi yeah
20:32 jcamins Oh, never mind.
20:32 * jcamins remembers that he already did this.
20:32 rangi heh
20:33 rangi did it work?
20:33 jcamins When escaping the parentheses.
20:33 jcamins Yeah, it's in Master.
20:33 rangi yeah
20:33 rangi thought so
20:33 rangi i reckon thats a better way to do it
20:33 jcamins Oh, definitely.
20:33 rangi i dont like stripping things if we dont have to
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20:33 Raothmist Hi all!
20:35 pastebot "Raothmist" at pasted "cpan[1]> install Graphics::Mag" (39 lines) at
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20:36 jcamins rangi: I'm not sure I agree about bug 5977.
20:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5977 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, opac advanced search Library always set to my library
20:37 rangi feel free to disagree, im just reformating/fixing/making bugs for biblibres big branches
20:37 jcamins Ah.
20:37 rangi will not be offended if you disagree
20:37 jcamins Well, I'll comment on the bug.
20:37 rangi cool
20:38 jcamins Actually, I guess it depends how they set it.
20:38 rangi ull see soon
20:38 rangi im just fixing conflicts
20:38 rangi then ill attach the patch
20:39 Raothmist any clue o wft happen with the cpan
20:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #82: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/82/
20:39 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5817, Malformed author search link breaks sorting on results page
20:39 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5817: Follow-up fixing callnum: on staff results
20:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5817 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Malformed author search link breaks sorting on results page
20:40 rangi jcamins: patch attached
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20:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5838: Format sql outout on guided reports <[…]3e5bdfe02cb3273e4>
20:56 magnuse hiya Irma
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21:01 rangi[…]8de220287017b63b7
21:01 rangi now thats a commit message i can work with
21:02 jcamins What's a commit message you can work with?
21:02 rangi the one on that commit i pasted
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21:03 jcamins Oh, I thought that was jenkins.
21:03 jcamins So it turns out that escaping might not work with ICU.
21:09 sekjal I think there may be an escapement rule that could be applied to icu.xml
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21:30 bg @wunder 93109
21:30 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.4�C (2:30 PM PDT on March 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
21:30 bg ohhh  rangi that maybe hard to beat today
21:30 rangi yeah no chance
21:30 rangi @wunder wellington nz
21:30 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on March 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
21:31 rangi right meeting time
21:31 c_afk @wunder Konstanz
21:31 huginn c_afk: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.7�C (11:30 PM CEST on March 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising).
21:31 bg yup a win for bg :)
21:33 jcamins Argh! I can't get the network to function after cloning my VirtualBox VM.
21:33 jcamins Oh, I know why.
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21:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #83: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/83/
21:39 jenkins_koha Katrin Fischer: Bug 5838: Format sql outout on guided reports
21:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5838 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Don't show sql statement on guided reports result page
22:06 sekjal until later tonight, #koha...
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22:09 jcamins Good night, #koha
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22:59 rhcl what's later tonight, me wonders
23:00 rangi ?
23:00 rangi nothing afaik
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23:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4366: Improve COinS support for MARC21 <[…]f7494ab6066aab55e> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3326' into kcmaster <[…]64725998db25e88a9> / Bug 3326: Staff results still displayed & <[…]mitdiff;h=fa7ca5c
23:21 rangi hi JM
23:22 JM Hello rangi
23:22 rangi hows things?
23:23 JM Things are very well. How about yourself?
23:23 rangi busy, but good
23:23 JM Yeah I've been very busy also
23:24 JM But that's a good thing.
23:24 JM Right. :)
23:24 rangi :)
23:28 JM Are there any good developments in the works that I can tell others about?
23:28 rangi well closing in on 3.4 pretty fast
23:28 rangi theres lots of features and fixes in that
23:29 rangi[…]pril-coming-fast/
23:29 JM I know that's great. 3.4
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23:29 JM Moving right along
23:30 jenkins_koha Starting build 84 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:30 druthb @seen Brooke_
23:30 huginn druthb: Brooke_ was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 7 hours, 9 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <Brooke_> yeah.
23:30 druthb @seen Brooke
23:30 rangi to whats in 3.6 ? all the stuff that didnt make the cut for 3.4 (we'll find out in a few days) plus new stuff
23:30 huginn druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 6 days, 0 hours, 43 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: * Brooke salutes Chris with respect.
23:30 rangi hi druthb
23:31 druthb hi, rangi. :)
23:31 JM Very exciting when that release comes. :)
23:32 rangi ah we have them every month now :-)
23:32 rangi but yeah there is some good stuff
23:34 JM Hi druthb
23:35 * druthb is wondering why JM changed nicks.
23:37 JM I'm using my phone. Not home. Like to see what's going on in the community.  :)
23:37 druthb ah...
23:37 druthb dedication++
23:37 JM :)
23:43 JM Druthb your still working?
23:43 JM Well I know you never stop.
23:43 druthb for some low-level value of "working," yes.
23:43 druthb waiting for my hands to thaw out...took a walk, went and got my nails done and a pedicure, and had dinner.
23:44 JM Very nice. Pampering yourself. Is a must.
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23:45 druthb mhm.
23:48 JM Well gnite #Koha
23:48 rangi night JM
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23:51 * druthb chuckles.

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