IRC log for #koha, 2011-03-27

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01:27 rangi afternoon
01:30 * jcamins waves
01:32 jcamins I figured out how to make packages.
01:32 jcamins I also looked again at the innards of GetAllIssues.
01:32 rangi with debian/build-git-snapshot ?
01:32 jcamins Yup.
01:32 jcamins It's really cool!
01:32 rangi its pretty easy once you install pbuilder
01:32 rangi yeah
01:33 jcamins Yeah, that was the step that was missing.
01:33 rangi and it will make them for whatever branch you are on
01:33 rangi so you can specialised ones if you need to
01:34 rangi build even
01:34 jcamins Oh, the horror!
01:34 rangi GetAllIssues?
01:34 jcamins Yes.
01:34 jcamins Well, how it's used.
01:35 rangi yep, get all then just show 50
01:35 rangi silly
01:35 jcamins Actually, what I find most horrifying is the fact that we retrieve the entire MARC record for every single one on the OPAC side.
01:35 jcamins To get the subtitle.
01:36 rangi yep
01:36 jcamins Actually, we were retrieving the entire MARC record twice.
01:36 jcamins I have *no idea* how it worked before.
01:36 rangi didnt touch marc at all
01:36 rangi used the subtitle table
01:36 rangi joined with the biblio, and biblioitems
01:36 rangi table
01:37 rangi pre MARC stored in koha
01:37 jcamins No, I mean, I don't understand how the code worked last week.
01:37 rangi ah, has it changed recently?
01:38 jcamins No.
01:38 jcamins Wait, I don't think...
01:38 jcamins I'll check again.
01:39 rangi the way we store data now, theres no way to get the subtitle without getting the marc
01:39 jcamins Nope.
01:39 jcamins Okay, but *twice*?
01:39 rangi the question is, do we really need the subtitle at that level, when people can click on the title if they want
01:40 jcamins Incidentally, we have way too many TEXT columns.
01:40 rangi yep no need to do it twice
01:40 rangi not sure that really matters these days
01:40 rangi (text columns)
01:40 rangi they dont use much more disk space than a varchar
01:41 jcamins No, but they require filesort.
01:41 jcamins Even if they're entirely *empty*.
01:41 jcamins And they're somewhat less than ideal for searching.
01:42 jcamins Ugh. There is no way to remove biblioitems from the query on the OPAC side.
01:42 rangi they only require filesort if you dont have enough ram
01:42 rangi same with a varchar
01:43 jcamins Really? According to the book I was reading, TEXT requires filesort.
01:43 rangi not with innodb it doesnt
01:43 jcamins Ah, that's good, then.
01:44 rangi if you dont have enough ram for temporary tables for your result set, you'll end up doing a filesort
01:44 jcamins And if your resultset includes the entire biblioitems table, you won't have enough RAM. :)
01:45 rangi well, i spec db machines to have more ram than the db
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01:45 rangi but if you do a bunch of bad joins yep that will happen
01:45 druthb o/
01:46 rangi hi druthb
01:46 jcamins Hello.
01:46 druthb Unicorn-- #for mangling MARC records on export and putting junque in position 22!
01:47 rangi heh
01:47 rangi jcamins: what kills us, is ordering on columns without indexes
01:47 jcamins That's pretty bad too.
01:50 pastebot "jcamins" at pasted "Query on old_issues" (6 lines) at
02:06 brendan_ WOW go Uconn!!!!
02:12 * druthb is only aware of The Big Game because her boss said it was so.
02:12 rangi heh
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02:24 kmkale Namaskar #koha
02:25 jcamins rangi: how do you test patches that only apply to packages?
02:26 jcamins No, wrong question.
02:26 jcamins What do you do if a patch you're testing breaks the package? Is it possible to downgrade?
02:29 rangi yep
02:29 rangi sudo dpkg -i olderversion
02:29 jcamins Oh, good. That's easy.
02:29 kmkale hi jcamins
02:30 rangi (it wont downgrade the db of course, put will put the code back at that version)
02:30 kmkale hi rangi
02:30 rangi right kids awake, bbiab
02:37 jcamins Wait, was Robin's jQuery hack pushed?
02:39 jcamins Well.
02:40 jcamins That's weird.
02:40 jcamins Never mind.
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03:05 rangi im not sure its needed now with the json fix
03:05 jcamins rangi: no, it doesn't seem to be.
03:06 jcamins Also, I was looking at the wrong server.
03:06 rangi heh
03:06 jcamins If you aren't using packages, the included version of of jQuery is used.
03:06 rangi yep
03:07 rangi much nicer if we can use the debian version with its security fixes
03:08 rangi and I think the json fix allows us to
03:08 jcamins Yeah, it seems to.
03:12 rangi the less we have to bundle the better :)
03:13 rangi once we get rid of yui that will be nice too
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07:12 rangi hmm
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08:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3670' into kcmaster <[…]5b9e6fe58392febf0> / Bug 3670 Followup: fixes message preference form <[…]39262bb160479ccdc> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_1962' into kcmaster <[…]eb/?p=koha.git;a=
08:30 rangi @later tell druthb you might want to fix your real name in your git config
08:30 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
08:30 jenkins_koha Starting build 78 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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09:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #78: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/78/
09:10 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 5932 Remove itemdata sub from C4::Serials
09:10 jenkins_koha * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Bug 5926 : Fixing Hierarchies : taking any heading subfield
09:10 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5930 : improving/modifying authority display on OPAC
09:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5932 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, subroutine itemdata to be replaced in C4::Serials
09:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Update Patron Help Files
09:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Catalog and Cataloging Help Files for 3.4
09:10 jenkins_koha * Bug 5954: 490$a not used to create search link in XSLT
09:10 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 1962: Add new syspref FineNotifyAtCheckin
09:10 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 3670 Followup: fixes message preference form
09:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5926 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Authorities : Fixing Hierarchies : taking any heading subfield
09:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5930 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, improving/modifying authority display on OPAC
09:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5940 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, Update Help Files for 3.4
09:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5954 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, 490$a not placed in link to search serials when XSLT defined
09:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1962 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, REOPENED, Add fine notification during check-in
09:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages
09:11 cait what a welcome message :)
09:22 rangi heh
09:28 cait hi rangi :)
09:29 cait it's getting late for you
09:44 rangi yup, about to go to sleep
09:47 cait found out that we are in summer time now
09:47 cait totally missed it's changed this weekend
09:48 cait what time is it for you know rangi?
09:48 rangi god i hate auto replies
09:48 rangi 22:48
09:48 cait 11:48
09:49 cait hm, so it's 11 hours to nz and 6 to druthb
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10:00 rangi thanks for changing the syspref name
10:02 rangi hey do you use icu in any of your libraries?
10:06 cait yes
10:06 cait hfjs
10:06 cait
10:06 cait the one with hebrew
10:06 rangi and the availability filter works?
10:07 cait I wondered about that myself - we never got complaints, but that doesn't mean it works
10:07 rangi if you could check and reply if it does (or doesnt) that would be excellent
10:07 rangi ;)
10:07 cait no
10:08 cait it doens't
10:08 cait *sighs*
10:08 rangi cool, if you could confirm he should definitely file a bug
10:08 cait I search something - click on the limit
10:08 cait no results
10:08 cait although there were no checkouts visible on the first page
10:09 cait[…]
10:10 rangi right
10:10 rangi do you want to reply or shall i?
10:11 cait was checking the mailing list
10:11 cait he already filed a bug
10:11 cait I will leave a comment that it's not working for us
10:11 rangi cool
10:11 cait we are using 3.2.2 - but I think there should not have changed much
10:12 rangi i did fix limits
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10:12 rangi the availability limit was broken
10:12 cait ah
10:12 cait in which version?
10:12 rangi he reckons he has tried all versions but ill check when it was fixed
10:12 cait I have no install with icu on master :(
10:12 magnus_ is now known as magnuse
10:12 cait hi magnuse
10:12 magnuse hiya cait and rangi and #koha
10:13 rangi yeah
10:13 rangi hi magnuse
10:15 rangi[…]&st=commit&s=5542
10:16 rangi added to 3.2.x in january
10:16 rangi so wouldnt be in 3.2.2, but in 3.2.3
10:18 rangi ill ask if he has tried 3.2.3
10:18 cait yes, I see your patch on the 3.2.x branch
10:20 cait hm the mail about hourly loan rule - point to the rfc on the wiki?
10:20 rangi yeah just writing that now
10:20 cait ok
10:20 rangi i wish it was as easy as just adding a column :)
10:20 cait hehe yes
10:21 cait even my tiny sysprefs take a lot more
10:22 cait hope you don't get grumpy at me for creating so many new sysprefs
10:22 cait I am working on the next right now...
10:24 cait Katrin
10:25 rangi a syspref called Katrin?
10:25 rangi what does it do? give me cookies?
10:25 cait ignore that... I am confusing my laptop's keyboards
10:25 cait lol
10:25 cait but perhaps not a bad idea :)
10:25 magnuse hehe
10:25 rangi ok time for sleep
10:26 cait but better make it a jcamins then, he has the better cookies
10:26 cait good night rangi :)
10:29 cait time to vote
10:29 cait will be back
10:29 cait is now known as kf_afk
10:29 kf_afk is now known as cait_afk
10:29 magnuse sleep tight rangi
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12:27 cait_afk jcamins++
12:27 jcamins_away @karma jcamins
12:27 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 59 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 58.
12:28 jcamins_away Wow. Lots of karma. :)
12:28 cait_afk all well deserved
12:49 jcamins_away If anyone is around who knows this, how do I reindex with the packages?
12:50 jcamins_away --full
12:50 jcamins_away Oh, the packages don't support -x.
12:51 jcamins_away That's not so good.
12:54 cait_afk :(
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12:56 jcamins_away druthb++
12:57 druthb eh?
12:57 jcamins_away # for migration awesomeness
12:57 druthb oh.  Thanks.  :)
12:58 cait_afk druthb++ for general awesomeness
12:58 druthb I do have a bit of a meddlesome problem, though, and I suspect it is something really simple I'm not seeing right.
12:59 druthb Let's see if I'm losing my mind:    someone have a moment to check something?
12:59 cait_afk sure
12:59 jcamins_away Sure.
12:59 druthb, and do some public-library-friendly search.
13:00 druthb Then attempt to limit the search to available items only.
13:00 cait_afk available items again
13:00 cait_afk have you seen the mail on the list?
13:00 jcamins_away Oh, for crying out loud.
13:00 * jcamins_away feels like an idiot
13:01 jcamins_away MySQL is currently limited to 100MB of RAM.
13:01 * druthb hasn't caught up with any list in some days.
13:01 cait_afk itwas today
13:01 cait_afk are you using icu?
13:01 druthb I don't think's a straight package install of koha-common.
13:02 cait_afk check back in today's irc logs
13:02 cait_afk there is a commit rangi did to fix it somewhere between 3.2.2 and 3.2.3
13:02 cait_afk and a mail on list that it does not work with icu
13:06 druthb Hm...the conditions that patch fixes do not obtain on the running code...but let me figure out if this beast is using ICU.
13:06 jcamins_away :wq
13:07 druthb nope.
13:07 jcamins_away What?
13:07 jcamins_away Oh, never mind.
13:07 jcamins_away I managed to parse that sentence.
13:07 * druthb grumps a little.
13:08 cait_afk jcamins_away: name of reviewer it is
13:09 jcamins_away cait_afk: :)
13:09 cait_afk is now known as cait
13:09 cait jcamins_away: but this not emans I am giving up!
13:09 cait only... giving up
13:09 jcamins_away GetAllIssues--
13:10 * cait thinks it's great to have some company on #koha this sunday :)
13:10 jcamins_away GetAllIssues-- # because it's too horrifying to only give it -1 karma
13:10 cait lol
13:11 jcamins_away Argh!
13:11 jcamins_away I just reindexed 6.5 GB of data.
13:11 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I did that *before* I installed the updated indexing configuration.
13:13 jcamins_away Uh-oh. What's
13:13 jcamins_away Oh, enumchron modification.
13:13 jcamins_away TEXT--
13:18 cait ?
13:20 cait big_bang_theory++
13:22 jcamins_away ?
13:23 cait watching big bang theory
13:23 cait in english even :)
13:23 cait it's a tv show and it's funny...?
13:23 * cait goes to hide again
13:26 jcamins_away GetAllIssues--
13:26 * cait peeks out
13:29 * jcamins_away grumbles about GetAllIssues.
13:58 jcamins_away cait: did your 942c patch make it in?
13:58 cait yes
13:58 jcamins_away Awesome!
13:59 cait didn't you sign-off on it? :)
13:59 druthb my XSLT patch made it on too, which will make Arnold library Very Happy.
13:59 jcamins_away :)
13:59 jcamins_away cait: yes I did, but that doesn't mean I recall rangi pushing it. ;)
14:02 cait rangi did :)
14:02 druthb rangi++
14:02 druthb jcamins++
14:03 druthb cait++ #takes teamwork to solve these prollems, it does.
14:03 cait teamwork++
14:06 * druthb closes Bug 5954, and Migration Support ticket 0047.  :)
14:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5954 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, RESOLVED FIXED, 490$a not placed in link to search serials when XSLT defined
14:06 cait yay :)
14:07 * druthb suspects that jcamins is glad that the MS ticket system exists; I'm rapidly approaching a hundred tickets in that thing, and it's only been up a couple or three weeks.
14:07 cait separate bugzila for migrations?
14:07 druthb I'm using Mantis for it, since it has project-management and roadmapping features I like, but yeah.
14:08 cait ok
14:09 * jcamins_away is *very* glad.
14:21 jcamins_away Where is renewals allowed set?
14:22 cait circ matrix?
14:22 jcamins_away In the database.
14:22 cait and there is a syspref to activate renewals in opac I think
14:22 cait issuingrules
14:22 jcamins_away I need to update several hundred rules.
14:23 jcamins_away Thanks.
14:24 cait np
14:30 jcamins_away Anyone know how to batch schedule a report?
14:31 cait nope
14:31 cait I was not aware that this is possible
14:31 jcamins_away There's a server-side command.
14:32 jcamins_away Ah.
14:32 jcamins_away misc/cronjobs/
14:49 jcamins_away String comparison in Perl is eq, right?
14:49 cait yep
14:52 jcamins_away How do you escape quotes in a CSV?
14:54 druthb \"
14:54 jcamins_away Thanks.
15:00 jcamins_away Yay! My new CSV format works.
15:01 cait :)
15:03 jcamins_away If only I knew how to use Perl formats.
15:06 druthb Perl Text::CSV?
15:06 jcamins_away Or, barring that, if only I had some bright idea for how to make the results of a report attractive for e-mailing.
15:06 jcamins_away druthb: Wow, that really saves trouble, doesn't it?
15:07 druthb yep;  I use it all the time for reading.  Haven't done a lot of writing with it, tho.
15:08 jcamins_away We apparently use Text::CSV_XS instead.
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15:11 * druthb snags the Velcro
15:12 * druthb looks at the clock, and hurries to go get ready to take kiddo to rehearsal!
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15:37 cait hm, now I missed druthb
17:21 cait @marc 362
17:21 huginn cait: Contains the beginning/ending date(s) of an item and/or the sequential designations used on each part. Dates to be used in this field are chronological designations that identify individual issues of the continuing resource. The sequential designations are usually numeric but can be alphabetic as well. The information may be formatted or unformatted. If the date information has been obtained from a source (1 more message)
17:31 cait jcamins++
17:31 cait thx for sign-off!!
17:32 jcamins_away You're welcome.
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18:00 sjtonnesen Hello Koha!
18:00 jcamins_away Hello, sjtonnesen.
18:01 cait hi sjtonnesen
18:01 sjtonnesen I've been away for a while.  I was pretty active with Koha back in the 1.0 days.
18:02 cait yes, your name sounded familiar to me
18:02 cait I was about to look at the git statistics :)
18:03 jcamins_away Will you be back a lot now? :)
18:03 sjtonnesen Is Chris Cormack still involved?
18:03 cait yes
18:03 cait his new nick is rangi
18:03 sjtonnesen Paul Poulain?
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18:04 cait yes, and hdl
18:04 sjtonnesen Excellent.
18:04 sjtonnesen At the moment, I'm looking at Koha for a very small installation, so don't expect great things out of me for a bit.  :)
18:05 cait is there something we can help you with?
18:06 sjtonnesen There used to be a simpler interface for cataloguing if the library didn't need the full MARC functionality.  Is everything done with the MARC interface now?
18:06 jcamins_away Yes, MARC only.
18:06 sjtonnesen Okay, I'll have to live with that.  I won't be dealing with real librarians here, but at least I can customize the MARC fields that show to make it fairly simple.
18:07 cait I think people create a simple framework with the most important fields at the moment, if they don't want to use full marc
18:07 sjtonnesen It is certainly much more impressive now for the real librarians, though.
18:07 sjtonnesen I see a few references to auto barcode generation when adding items, but it doesn't seem to work for me.  Is that feature in limbo?
18:08 cait have you turned on the syspref?
18:08 cait I think it's called autobarcode or similar, with different settings
18:08 jcamins_away Yeah, it works.
18:08 sjtonnesen Yes, but haven't played with it much.  I started using barcodes like T0001, so it looks like I might have to fiddle with that to get it to work with my barcodes.
18:09 cait it's a plugin, should not be too hard
18:10 sjtonnesen is now known as Steve_Tonnesen
18:10 Steve_Tonnesen Great.  Thought I'd stop in and say hello.  If anybody sees Chris, tell him I said hello.
18:11 jcamins_away @later tell rangi Steve Tonnesen says hi.
18:11 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
18:11 jcamins_away :)
18:11 jcamins_away Now you don't have to worry about us forgetting.
18:11 cait I think he will perhaps show up soon
18:11 cait monday morning in nz
18:12 cait he is around a lot
19:00 * jcamins_away looks at bug 4421.
19:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4421 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Should be possible to display location for bibs w/o items
19:00 jcamins_away It wasn't fun the first time he fixed it, and it's not going to be fun now, either.
19:02 cait hm?
19:03 jcamins_away[…]?biblionumber=301
19:03 jcamins_away In the Holdings tab.
19:04 cait ah I see
19:14 cait was this submitted to koha and is broken now?
19:14 cait or a completely new feature?
19:14 jcamins_away Nope.
19:14 jcamins_away Never submitted.
19:14 jcamins_away 'Cause it's kind of... icky.
19:14 cait I understand
19:15 cait calls for another syspref perhaps :)
19:15 jcamins_away Yup.
19:15 jcamins_away AlternateHoldingsField.
19:15 cait sounds good
19:33 rangi Steve_Tonnesen: holy crap!!
19:34 rangi blast from the past!
19:34 cait jcamins++ for helping me find the right words :)
19:34 rangi who here uses web based circulation?
19:34 * cait waves to rangi :)
19:35 cait sorry, we don't
19:35 cait we have this crazy sip2 self check things :(
19:35 rangi for all circ?
19:35 rangi (staff side too?)
19:35 cait not sip2 but rfid devices and a keyboard buffer solution (?)
19:35 jcamins_away What would happen if I replaced a <p> tag with a <div> tag?
19:35 jcamins_away I mean, in terms of functionality.
19:35 cait a little piece of software reading the number from the tag and passing it to the barcode field in koha
19:35 jcamins_away Wouldn't it be the same?
19:36 cait depends on the css
19:36 rangi cait: but the librarians don't ever circulate anything?
19:36 cait but basically both are block elements
19:36 cait rangi: they do, of course
19:36 rangi Steve_Tonnesen did that
19:37 cait there are always cases where the self check will refuse checkout but a librarian might override the limit
19:37 cait rangi: sorry?
19:37 rangi before he did that, circ was all telnet
19:37 rangi s/telnet/ssh/
19:37 rangi and curses
19:37 jcamins_away cait: but if there's no particular CSS, they're basically equivalent?
19:37 cait someone might now better, but I think so
19:37 rangi Steve_Tonnesen wrote the first web based circulation system for Koha
19:37 cait ah
19:38 cait I recognized his name
19:38 rangi which has morphed into what we all use now
19:38 rangi was release manager too
19:38 cait from the git statistics
19:38 cait and the history file :)
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19:41 jcamins_away Now I need to make this play nicely with sysprefs:[…]de3ac57ae58506dd1
19:48 jcamins_away Can't call method "subfields" on unblessed reference at /home/jcamins/kohaclone/opac/ line 235.
19:48 jcamins_away ^^ Anyone know what that means?
19:48 jcamins_away Oh, I bet it means that there's no use MARC::Field
19:49 rangi that would do it
19:49 jcamins_away Or not.
19:50 jcamins_away It's got to be something like that, though.
19:50 rangi how are you making your field object?
19:50 jcamins_away my @holdingsfields = $record->field(substr $fieldspec, 0, 3);
19:51 jcamins_away for my $field (@holdingsfields)
19:51 jcamins_away Wait, I think I see the problem.
19:51 jcamins_away Nope. It is not that I accidentally wrote "foreach" instead of "for."
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19:52 rangi Returns a list of tags that match the field specifier
19:52 rangi its not return field objects
19:52 jcamins_away Oh.
19:53 rangi fields()
19:53 rangi Returns a list of all the fields in the record. The list contains a MARC::Field object for
19:53 jcamins_away Well I guess that would not be what I want, then.
19:53 rangi each field in the record
19:53 rangi nope
19:54 jcamins_away I wonder wh it used to work.
19:54 rangi heres a quick way to check
19:54 rangi use Data::Dumper;
19:55 rangi warn Dumper @holdingsfields;
19:55 rangi see whats in there
19:56 jcamins_away A field.
19:56 jcamins_away Perhaps it doesn't like the list context?
19:56 rangi could be
19:57 rangi i think its passing a list ref
19:57 rangi try my $holdingfields
19:57 rangi then @$holdingfields
19:58 jcamins_away Oh.
19:58 jcamins_away I clobbered a variable.
19:58 rangi hmm in koha, do we have any note fields that dont show on the opac?
19:58 jcamins_away We do.
19:58 rangi if i wanted a note on a record, that only showed on the staff side, can i do that?
19:58 jcamins_away 952$y
19:58 rangi oh cool
19:58 rangi thanks
19:59 jcamins_away Sadly we don't display it most places in the Staff client either at the moment.
19:59 rangi as long as its in the record, thats good enough for me
19:59 rangi thanks
19:59 rangi isnt 952y itemtype?
20:00 jcamins_away 952x.
20:00 jcamins_away Sorry.
20:00 rangi ta
20:00 rangi cool
20:00 cait but I think it's not a real field - no matching field in items
20:00 rangi right, i just want it in the marc
20:00 cait or it's mapped to a strange field
20:00 cait paidfor
20:00 rangi it contains an email address that only the cataloguers should see
20:01 cait I think robin did a patch somewhere to add a field to items - not sure what happened with it
20:01 jcamins_away I think the field was added.
20:01 cait easy enough to check
20:01 cait I think it was not - looking it up now
20:02 cait no, doesn't look like it
20:03 cait hm bug 2370
20:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2370 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC21 non-public note is mapped to items.paidfor
20:06 cait ah, bug 4222
20:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client
20:08 jcamins_away Well, this is weird.
20:08 cait hm?
20:08 jcamins_away Does the availability not show up in the search results when XSLT is disabled?
20:09 cait opac? don't know
20:09 jcamins_away Right.
20:09 jcamins_away I'm checking now.
20:09 jcamins_away It must. I'm sure it does.
20:09 jcamins_away Yup.
20:10 jcamins_away Ugh.
20:11 jcamins_away The availability information is passed in directly by C4::Search.
20:14 jcamins_away You know what? In the unlikely event that someone wants alternate availability information in the non-XSLT results view, *they* can figure out how to do it.
20:14 cait hehe
20:15 rangi jcamins_away: 4276 .. ok for me to test and push eh?
20:15 jcamins_away Yes indeed. :)
20:15 rangi cool will try and do that this morning
20:15 jcamins_away Yay!
20:15 jcamins_away Thanks!
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20:47 jcamins_away Bother. You can't use select with call-template?
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20:58 jcamins_away Argh!
20:58 jcamins_away There's no XSLT results display for the Staff client.
20:59 jcamins_away I don't want to understand C4::Search!
20:59 cait lol
20:59 mtj i thought staff xslt was in stable
20:59 cait perhaps you should add one?
20:59 rangi jcamins_away: its probably faster to get the xslt working
21:00 jcamins_away I don't think so.
21:00 rangi the stylesheet is all there
21:00 jcamins_away rangi: oh, really?
21:00 jcamins_away Why doesn't it work then?
21:00 rangi yeah
21:00 cait mtj: only for opac
21:00 jenkins_koha Starting build 79 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:00 rangi cos no one has written the code to make it use it
21:00 jcamins_away Seriously? That's it?
21:00 rangi thats it
21:00 rangi style sheet is there
21:00 rangi syspref is there
21:01 rangi nothing is telling the template/script to use them
21:01 cait hm I don't see the file for staff -working on the xslt files right now
21:02 cait but probably you can use the opac file and change the links?
21:02 rangi hmm im sure i saw it, yeah you could do that
21:02 jcamins_away Hm. But the display is rather different.
21:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <[…]2ce078dde05ed4eb3> / Bug 4276: XSLT subject tracings only use subfield a <[…]966f011de0fe2fca0>
21:03 rangi where did i see it
21:06 jcamins_away TransformMarcToKoha?
21:06 jcamins_away I'm pretty sure I don't want to know what that does.
21:22 cait hmpf
21:22 cait is there a reason we don't index 773$a?
21:22 cait only $t?
21:23 jcamins_away No.
21:24 jcamins_away But if you send a patch for indexing all the missing 7xx fields, I'll sign off on it.
21:24 cait I thought I could add $a to Host-item index, would this be ok in your eyes?
21:25 jcamins_away Yes.
21:25 jcamins_away Make sure you add it as :p, too.
21:25 druthb :p
21:25 cait ?
21:26 jcamins_away rangi: do you know of any way to force Template Pro to only look through the first item in a list?
21:26 jcamins_away cait: phrase search. Like, Host-item:p
21:26 rangi nope
21:26 cait melm 773$a      Host-item, Host-item:p?
21:27 jcamins_away Right.
21:27 cait hm someone should send me to bed...
21:27 jcamins_away cait: go to bed.
21:27 jcamins_away It's late.
21:28 druthb Cait!   Go to bed.  It's nearly midnight for you!
21:28 cait druthb wins
21:28 cait much more persuasive
21:28 druthb victory!
21:28 cait but not persuasive enough
21:28 * cait hides
21:29 druthb @quote get 102
21:29 huginn druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
21:29 cait No results match your search for 'Host-item:Das Schöne Konstanz am Bodensee und Rhein, die alte Stadt im deutschen Süden :'.
21:30 cait any ideas?
21:31 jcamins_away You reindexed?
21:31 cait yep
21:31 cait and copied file form kohaclone to koha-dev
21:32 cait a keyword search for schöne konstanz is not working too
21:32 cait only finds the host item, not my analytic
21:32 jcamins_away ICU?
21:32 wahanui i guess ICU is a friend of yaz, not really integrated.
21:33 cait no
21:33 cait I killed your :P
21:33 cait and now it works
21:33 cait not sure why - as always
21:33 jcamins_away Hm.
21:33 cait hah
21:33 cait now it works
21:34 cait from analytic to host item and back - without using control numbers
21:34 jcamins_away Hooray!
21:34 jcamins_away I wonder why :p is necessary for 6xx fields but not that one.
21:35 druthb :p
21:35 cait hehe
21:36 jcamins_away Why did I just go from getting 135 search results to 2725?
21:38 rangi jcamins_away: in case you arent busy enough
21:38 jcamins_away rangi: uh-oh. What?
21:39 rangi how about cataloguing the newsletters into a marc file, so everyone can import the koha newsletters into their koha catalogue ;)
21:39 jcamins_away Heh.
21:39 jcamins_away I think Nicole got an ISSN, so I guess we could.
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21:39 rangi *nod*
21:39 jcamins_away I mean, we could without the ISSN, but I prefer ISSNs.
21:40 rangi could just be a 856u to the newsletter article on the site
21:40 rangi just a random thought i had sparked by the newsletter release :)
21:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #79: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/79/
21:40 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 4276: XSLT subject tracings only use subfield a
21:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
21:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms
21:40 rangi 4276 lives!
21:41 cait rangi = frankenstein?
21:41 rangi heh
21:41 rangi does that make you igor? :)
21:42 cait why not
21:42 jcamins_away Drat.
21:42 jcamins_away This doesn't work right.
21:42 cait being igor could be fun in that case :)
21:43 cait jcamins: could I probably bribe you with virtual cookies to test my new xslt monster?
21:43 rangi its monday, so it must be meeting time
21:43 rangi bbiab
21:44 jcamins_away Woohoo! Now it works!
21:44 jcamins_away cait: sure.
21:44 jcamins_away You just saved me the inconvenience of doing that myself.
21:45 cait hope it works for you
21:46 cait it's the same schema I used for the other things
21:46 jcamins_away Me too! :D
21:46 cait remember to copy the record.abs file
21:48 cait sent
21:48 cait adding it to bug now :)
21:49 cait ok, now I can go to bed
21:49 jcamins_away Good night.
21:50 cait I have a dev list with a lot of smileys now :)
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21:51 * cait hands jcamins some cookies
21:52 cait the rest when testing is done ;)
21:52 cait bye all :)
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23:22 bg @wunder 93109
23:22 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.9�C (4:22 PM PDT on March 27, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady).
23:22 bg @wunder wellington nz
23:22 huginn bg: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on March 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
23:22 bg rangi - looks like bg gets the win today
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23:23 rangi yep

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