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| 01:27 |
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rangi |
afternoon |
| 01:30 |
|
* jcamins |
waves |
| 01:32 |
|
jcamins |
I figured out how to make packages. |
| 01:32 |
|
jcamins |
I also looked again at the innards of GetAllIssues. |
| 01:32 |
|
rangi |
with debian/build-git-snapshot ? |
| 01:32 |
|
jcamins |
Yup. |
| 01:32 |
|
jcamins |
It's really cool! |
| 01:32 |
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rangi |
its pretty easy once you install pbuilder |
| 01:32 |
|
rangi |
yeah |
| 01:33 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, that was the step that was missing. |
| 01:33 |
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rangi |
and it will make them for whatever branch you are on |
| 01:33 |
|
rangi |
so you can specialised ones if you need to |
| 01:34 |
|
rangi |
build even |
| 01:34 |
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jcamins |
Oh, the horror! |
| 01:34 |
|
rangi |
GetAllIssues? |
| 01:34 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 01:34 |
|
jcamins |
Well, how it's used. |
| 01:35 |
|
rangi |
yep, get all then just show 50 |
| 01:35 |
|
rangi |
silly |
| 01:35 |
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jcamins |
Actually, what I find most horrifying is the fact that we retrieve the entire MARC record for every single one on the OPAC side. |
| 01:35 |
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jcamins |
To get the subtitle. |
| 01:36 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 01:36 |
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jcamins |
Actually, we were retrieving the entire MARC record twice. |
| 01:36 |
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jcamins |
I have *no idea* how it worked before. |
| 01:36 |
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rangi |
didnt touch marc at all |
| 01:36 |
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rangi |
used the subtitle table |
| 01:36 |
|
rangi |
joined with the biblio, and biblioitems |
| 01:36 |
|
rangi |
table |
| 01:37 |
|
rangi |
pre MARC stored in koha |
| 01:37 |
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jcamins |
No, I mean, I don't understand how the code worked last week. |
| 01:37 |
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rangi |
ah, has it changed recently? |
| 01:38 |
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jcamins |
No. |
| 01:38 |
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jcamins |
Wait, I don't think... |
| 01:38 |
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jcamins |
I'll check again. |
| 01:39 |
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rangi |
the way we store data now, theres no way to get the subtitle without getting the marc |
| 01:39 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
| 01:39 |
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jcamins |
Okay, but *twice*? |
| 01:39 |
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rangi |
the question is, do we really need the subtitle at that level, when people can click on the title if they want |
| 01:40 |
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jcamins |
Incidentally, we have way too many TEXT columns. |
| 01:40 |
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rangi |
yep no need to do it twice |
| 01:40 |
|
rangi |
not sure that really matters these days |
| 01:40 |
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rangi |
(text columns) |
| 01:40 |
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rangi |
they dont use much more disk space than a varchar |
| 01:41 |
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jcamins |
No, but they require filesort. |
| 01:41 |
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jcamins |
Even if they're entirely *empty*. |
| 01:41 |
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jcamins |
And they're somewhat less than ideal for searching. |
| 01:42 |
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jcamins |
Ugh. There is no way to remove biblioitems from the query on the OPAC side. |
| 01:42 |
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rangi |
they only require filesort if you dont have enough ram |
| 01:42 |
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rangi |
same with a varchar |
| 01:43 |
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jcamins |
Really? According to the book I was reading, TEXT requires filesort. |
| 01:43 |
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rangi |
not with innodb it doesnt |
| 01:43 |
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jcamins |
Ah, that's good, then. |
| 01:44 |
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rangi |
if you dont have enough ram for temporary tables for your result set, you'll end up doing a filesort |
| 01:44 |
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jcamins |
And if your resultset includes the entire biblioitems table, you won't have enough RAM. :) |
| 01:45 |
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rangi |
well, i spec db machines to have more ram than the db |
| 01:45 |
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| 01:45 |
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rangi |
but if you do a bunch of bad joins yep that will happen |
| 01:45 |
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druthb |
o/ |
| 01:46 |
|
rangi |
hi druthb |
| 01:46 |
|
jcamins |
Hello. |
| 01:46 |
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druthb |
Unicorn-- #for mangling MARC records on export and putting junque in position 22! |
| 01:47 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 01:47 |
|
rangi |
jcamins: what kills us, is ordering on columns without indexes |
| 01:47 |
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jcamins |
That's pretty bad too. |
| 01:50 |
|
pastebot |
"jcamins" at 208.120.0.116 pasted "Query on old_issues" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/185 |
| 02:06 |
|
brendan_ |
WOW go Uconn!!!! |
| 02:12 |
|
* druthb |
is only aware of The Big Game because her boss said it was so. |
| 02:12 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 02:24 |
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| 02:24 |
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kmkale |
Namaskar #koha |
| 02:25 |
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jcamins |
rangi: how do you test patches that only apply to packages? |
| 02:26 |
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jcamins |
No, wrong question. |
| 02:26 |
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jcamins |
What do you do if a patch you're testing breaks the package? Is it possible to downgrade? |
| 02:29 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 02:29 |
|
rangi |
sudo dpkg -i olderversion |
| 02:29 |
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jcamins |
Oh, good. That's easy. |
| 02:29 |
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kmkale |
hi jcamins |
| 02:30 |
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rangi |
(it wont downgrade the db of course, put will put the code back at that version) |
| 02:30 |
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kmkale |
hi rangi |
| 02:30 |
|
rangi |
right kids awake, bbiab |
| 02:37 |
|
jcamins |
Wait, was Robin's jQuery hack pushed? |
| 02:39 |
|
jcamins |
Well. |
| 02:40 |
|
jcamins |
That's weird. |
| 02:40 |
|
jcamins |
Never mind. |
| 02:55 |
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| 03:05 |
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rangi |
im not sure its needed now with the json fix |
| 03:05 |
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jcamins |
rangi: no, it doesn't seem to be. |
| 03:06 |
|
jcamins |
Also, I was looking at the wrong server. |
| 03:06 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 03:06 |
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jcamins |
If you aren't using packages, the included version of of jQuery is used. |
| 03:06 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 03:07 |
|
rangi |
much nicer if we can use the debian version with its security fixes |
| 03:08 |
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rangi |
and I think the json fix allows us to |
| 03:08 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, it seems to. |
| 03:12 |
|
rangi |
the less we have to bundle the better :) |
| 03:13 |
|
rangi |
once we get rid of yui that will be nice too |
| 04:22 |
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jcamins is now known as jcamins_away |
| 05:15 |
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| 07:12 |
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rangi |
hmm |
| 07:54 |
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| 08:27 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3670' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5b9e6fe58392febf0> / Bug 3670 Followup: fixes message preference form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]39262bb160479ccdc> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_1962' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb/?p=koha.git;a= |
| 08:30 |
|
rangi |
@later tell druthb you might want to fix your real name in your git config |
| 08:30 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:30 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 78 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 09:10 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #78: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/78/ |
| 09:10 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Colin Campbell: Bug 5932 Remove itemdata sub from C4::Serials |
| 09:10 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Henri-Damien LAURENT: Bug 5926 : Fixing Hierarchies : taking any heading subfield |
| 09:10 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 5930 : improving/modifying authority display on OPAC |
| 09:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5932 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW, subroutine itemdata to be replaced in C4::Serials |
| 09:10 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Update Patron Help Files |
| 09:10 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5940: Catalog and Cataloging Help Files for 3.4 |
| 09:10 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* ruth bywatersolutions.com: Bug 5954: 490$a not used to create search link in XSLT |
| 09:10 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Katrin Fischer: Bug 1962: Add new syspref FineNotifyAtCheckin |
| 09:10 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Ian Walls: Bug 3670 Followup: fixes message preference form |
| 09:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5926 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Authorities : Fixing Hierarchies : taking any heading subfield |
| 09:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5930 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, improving/modifying authority display on OPAC |
| 09:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5940 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, Update Help Files for 3.4 |
| 09:10 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5954 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, 490$a not placed in link to search serials when XSLT defined |
| 09:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1962 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, REOPENED, Add fine notification during check-in |
| 09:10 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, REOPENED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages |
| 09:11 |
|
cait |
what a welcome message :) |
| 09:22 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 09:28 |
|
cait |
hi rangi :) |
| 09:29 |
|
cait |
it's getting late for you |
| 09:44 |
|
rangi |
yup, about to go to sleep |
| 09:47 |
|
cait |
found out that we are in summer time now |
| 09:47 |
|
cait |
totally missed it's changed this weekend |
| 09:48 |
|
cait |
what time is it for you know rangi? |
| 09:48 |
|
rangi |
god i hate auto replies |
| 09:48 |
|
rangi |
22:48 |
| 09:48 |
|
cait |
11:48 |
| 09:49 |
|
cait |
hm, so it's 11 hours to nz and 6 to druthb |
| 09:57 |
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| 10:00 |
|
rangi |
thanks for changing the syspref name |
| 10:02 |
|
rangi |
hey do you use icu in any of your libraries? |
| 10:06 |
|
cait |
yes |
| 10:06 |
|
cait |
hfjs |
| 10:06 |
|
cait |
hfjs.bsw-bw.de |
| 10:06 |
|
cait |
the one with hebrew |
| 10:06 |
|
rangi |
and the availability filter works? |
| 10:07 |
|
cait |
I wondered about that myself - we never got complaints, but that doesn't mean it works |
| 10:07 |
|
rangi |
if you could check and reply if it does (or doesnt) that would be excellent |
| 10:07 |
|
rangi |
;) |
| 10:07 |
|
cait |
no |
| 10:08 |
|
cait |
it doens't |
| 10:08 |
|
cait |
*sighs* |
| 10:08 |
|
rangi |
cool, if you could confirm he should definitely file a bug |
| 10:08 |
|
cait |
I search something - click on the limit |
| 10:08 |
|
cait |
no results |
| 10:08 |
|
cait |
although there were no checkouts visible on the first page |
| 10:09 |
|
cait |
https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]c-search.pl?q=dvd |
| 10:10 |
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rangi |
right |
| 10:10 |
|
rangi |
do you want to reply or shall i? |
| 10:11 |
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cait |
was checking the mailing list |
| 10:11 |
|
cait |
he already filed a bug |
| 10:11 |
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cait |
I will leave a comment that it's not working for us |
| 10:11 |
|
rangi |
cool |
| 10:11 |
|
cait |
we are using 3.2.2 - but I think there should not have changed much |
| 10:12 |
|
rangi |
i did fix limits |
| 10:12 |
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| 10:12 |
|
rangi |
the availability limit was broken |
| 10:12 |
|
cait |
ah |
| 10:12 |
|
cait |
in which version? |
| 10:12 |
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rangi |
he reckons he has tried all versions but ill check when it was fixed |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
I have no install with icu on master :( |
| 10:12 |
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magnus_ is now known as magnuse |
| 10:12 |
|
cait |
hi magnuse |
| 10:12 |
|
magnuse |
hiya cait and rangi and #koha |
| 10:13 |
|
rangi |
yeah |
| 10:13 |
|
rangi |
hi magnuse |
| 10:15 |
|
rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]&st=commit&s=5542 |
| 10:16 |
|
rangi |
added to 3.2.x in january |
| 10:16 |
|
rangi |
so wouldnt be in 3.2.2, but in 3.2.3 |
| 10:18 |
|
rangi |
ill ask if he has tried 3.2.3 |
| 10:18 |
|
cait |
yes, I see your patch on the 3.2.x branch |
| 10:20 |
|
cait |
hm the mail about hourly loan rule - point to the rfc on the wiki? |
| 10:20 |
|
rangi |
yeah just writing that now |
| 10:20 |
|
cait |
ok |
| 10:20 |
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rangi |
i wish it was as easy as just adding a column :) |
| 10:20 |
|
cait |
hehe yes |
| 10:21 |
|
cait |
even my tiny sysprefs take a lot more |
| 10:22 |
|
cait |
hope you don't get grumpy at me for creating so many new sysprefs |
| 10:22 |
|
cait |
I am working on the next right now... |
| 10:24 |
|
cait |
Katrin |
| 10:25 |
|
rangi |
a syspref called Katrin? |
| 10:25 |
|
rangi |
what does it do? give me cookies? |
| 10:25 |
|
cait |
ignore that... I am confusing my laptop's keyboards |
| 10:25 |
|
cait |
lol |
| 10:25 |
|
cait |
but perhaps not a bad idea :) |
| 10:25 |
|
magnuse |
hehe |
| 10:25 |
|
rangi |
ok time for sleep |
| 10:26 |
|
cait |
but better make it a jcamins then, he has the better cookies |
| 10:26 |
|
cait |
good night rangi :) |
| 10:29 |
|
cait |
time to vote |
| 10:29 |
|
cait |
will be back |
| 10:29 |
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cait is now known as kf_afk |
| 10:29 |
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kf_afk is now known as cait_afk |
| 10:29 |
|
magnuse |
sleep tight rangi |
| 11:51 |
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| 12:27 |
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cait_afk |
jcamins++ |
| 12:27 |
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jcamins_away |
@karma jcamins |
| 12:27 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 59 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 58. |
| 12:28 |
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jcamins_away |
Wow. Lots of karma. :) |
| 12:28 |
|
cait_afk |
all well deserved |
| 12:49 |
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jcamins_away |
If anyone is around who knows this, how do I reindex with the packages? |
| 12:50 |
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jcamins_away |
--full |
| 12:50 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, the packages don't support -x. |
| 12:51 |
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jcamins_away |
That's not so good. |
| 12:54 |
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cait_afk |
:( |
| 12:55 |
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| 12:56 |
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jcamins_away |
druthb++ |
| 12:57 |
|
druthb |
eh? |
| 12:57 |
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jcamins_away |
# for migration awesomeness |
| 12:57 |
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druthb |
oh. Thanks. :) |
| 12:58 |
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cait_afk |
druthb++ for general awesomeness |
| 12:58 |
|
druthb |
I do have a bit of a meddlesome problem, though, and I suspect it is something really simple I'm not seeing right. |
| 12:59 |
|
druthb |
Let's see if I'm losing my mind: someone have a moment to check something? |
| 12:59 |
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cait_afk |
sure |
| 12:59 |
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jcamins_away |
Sure. |
| 12:59 |
|
druthb |
http://catalog.rivers.bywatersolutions.com, and do some public-library-friendly search. |
| 13:00 |
|
druthb |
Then attempt to limit the search to available items only. |
| 13:00 |
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cait_afk |
available items again |
| 13:00 |
|
cait_afk |
have you seen the mail on the list? |
| 13:00 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, for crying out loud. |
| 13:00 |
|
* jcamins_away |
feels like an idiot |
| 13:01 |
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jcamins_away |
MySQL is currently limited to 100MB of RAM. |
| 13:01 |
|
* druthb |
hasn't caught up with any list in some days. |
| 13:01 |
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cait_afk |
itwas today |
| 13:01 |
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cait_afk |
are you using icu? |
| 13:01 |
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druthb |
I don't think so...it's a straight package install of koha-common. |
| 13:02 |
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cait_afk |
check back in today's irc logs |
| 13:02 |
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cait_afk |
there is a commit rangi did to fix it somewhere between 3.2.2 and 3.2.3 |
| 13:02 |
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cait_afk |
and a mail on list that it does not work with icu |
| 13:06 |
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druthb |
Hm...the conditions that patch fixes do not obtain on the running code...but let me figure out if this beast is using ICU. |
| 13:06 |
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jcamins_away |
:wq |
| 13:07 |
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druthb |
nope. |
| 13:07 |
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jcamins_away |
What? |
| 13:07 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, never mind. |
| 13:07 |
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jcamins_away |
I managed to parse that sentence. |
| 13:07 |
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* druthb |
grumps a little. |
| 13:08 |
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cait_afk |
jcamins_away: name of reviewer it is |
| 13:09 |
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jcamins_away |
cait_afk: :) |
| 13:09 |
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cait_afk is now known as cait |
| 13:09 |
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cait |
jcamins_away: but this not emans I am giving up! |
| 13:09 |
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cait |
only... giving up |
| 13:09 |
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jcamins_away |
GetAllIssues-- |
| 13:10 |
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* cait |
thinks it's great to have some company on #koha this sunday :) |
| 13:10 |
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jcamins_away |
GetAllIssues-- # because it's too horrifying to only give it -1 karma |
| 13:10 |
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cait |
lol |
| 13:11 |
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jcamins_away |
Argh! |
| 13:11 |
|
jcamins_away |
I just reindexed 6.5 GB of data. |
| 13:11 |
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jcamins_away |
Unfortunately, I did that *before* I installed the updated indexing configuration. |
| 13:13 |
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jcamins_away |
Uh-oh. What's 3.3.0.21? |
| 13:13 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, enumchron modification. |
| 13:13 |
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jcamins_away |
TEXT-- |
| 13:18 |
|
cait |
? |
| 13:20 |
|
cait |
big_bang_theory++ |
| 13:22 |
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jcamins_away |
? |
| 13:23 |
|
cait |
watching big bang theory |
| 13:23 |
|
cait |
in english even :) |
| 13:23 |
|
cait |
it's a tv show and it's funny...? |
| 13:23 |
|
* cait |
goes to hide again |
| 13:26 |
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jcamins_away |
GetAllIssues-- |
| 13:26 |
|
* cait |
peeks out |
| 13:29 |
|
* jcamins_away |
grumbles about GetAllIssues. |
| 13:58 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: did your 942c patch make it in? |
| 13:58 |
|
cait |
yes |
| 13:58 |
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jcamins_away |
Awesome! |
| 13:59 |
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cait |
didn't you sign-off on it? :) |
| 13:59 |
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druthb |
my XSLT patch made it on too, which will make Arnold library Very Happy. |
| 13:59 |
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jcamins_away |
:) |
| 13:59 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: yes I did, but that doesn't mean I recall rangi pushing it. ;) |
| 14:02 |
|
cait |
rangi did :) |
| 14:02 |
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druthb |
rangi++ |
| 14:02 |
|
druthb |
jcamins++ |
| 14:03 |
|
druthb |
cait++ #takes teamwork to solve these prollems, it does. |
| 14:03 |
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cait |
teamwork++ |
| 14:06 |
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* druthb |
closes Bug 5954, and Migration Support ticket 0047. :) |
| 14:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5954 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, RESOLVED FIXED, 490$a not placed in link to search serials when XSLT defined |
| 14:06 |
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cait |
yay :) |
| 14:07 |
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* druthb |
suspects that jcamins is glad that the MS ticket system exists; I'm rapidly approaching a hundred tickets in that thing, and it's only been up a couple or three weeks. |
| 14:07 |
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cait |
separate bugzila for migrations? |
| 14:07 |
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druthb |
I'm using Mantis for it, since it has project-management and roadmapping features I like, but yeah. |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
ok |
| 14:09 |
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* jcamins_away |
is *very* glad. |
| 14:21 |
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jcamins_away |
Where is renewals allowed set? |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
circ matrix? |
| 14:22 |
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jcamins_away |
In the database. |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
and there is a syspref to activate renewals in opac I think |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
issuingrules |
| 14:22 |
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jcamins_away |
I need to update several hundred rules. |
| 14:23 |
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jcamins_away |
Thanks. |
| 14:24 |
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cait |
np |
| 14:30 |
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jcamins_away |
Anyone know how to batch schedule a report? |
| 14:31 |
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cait |
nope |
| 14:31 |
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cait |
I was not aware that this is possible |
| 14:31 |
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jcamins_away |
There's a server-side command. |
| 14:32 |
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jcamins_away |
Ah. |
| 14:32 |
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jcamins_away |
misc/cronjobs/runreport.pl |
| 14:49 |
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jcamins_away |
String comparison in Perl is eq, right? |
| 14:49 |
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cait |
yep |
| 14:52 |
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jcamins_away |
How do you escape quotes in a CSV? |
| 14:54 |
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druthb |
\" |
| 14:54 |
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jcamins_away |
Thanks. |
| 15:00 |
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jcamins_away |
Yay! My new CSV format works. |
| 15:01 |
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cait |
:) |
| 15:03 |
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jcamins_away |
If only I knew how to use Perl formats. |
| 15:06 |
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druthb |
Perl Text::CSV? |
| 15:06 |
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jcamins_away |
Or, barring that, if only I had some bright idea for how to make the results of a report attractive for e-mailing. |
| 15:06 |
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jcamins_away |
druthb: Wow, that really saves trouble, doesn't it? |
| 15:07 |
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druthb |
yep; I use it all the time for reading. Haven't done a lot of writing with it, tho. |
| 15:08 |
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jcamins_away |
We apparently use Text::CSV_XS instead. |
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* druthb |
snags the Velcro |
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* druthb |
looks at the clock, and hurries to go get ready to take kiddo to rehearsal! |
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cait |
hm, now I missed druthb |
| 17:21 |
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cait |
@marc 362 |
| 17:21 |
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huginn |
cait: Contains the beginning/ending date(s) of an item and/or the sequential designations used on each part. Dates to be used in this field are chronological designations that identify individual issues of the continuing resource. The sequential designations are usually numeric but can be alphabetic as well. The information may be formatted or unformatted. If the date information has been obtained from a source (1 more message) |
| 17:31 |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
| 17:31 |
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cait |
thx for sign-off!! |
| 17:32 |
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jcamins_away |
You're welcome. |
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sjtonnesen |
Hello Koha! |
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jcamins_away |
Hello, sjtonnesen. |
| 18:01 |
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cait |
hi sjtonnesen |
| 18:01 |
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sjtonnesen |
I've been away for a while. I was pretty active with Koha back in the 1.0 days. |
| 18:02 |
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cait |
yes, your name sounded familiar to me |
| 18:02 |
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cait |
I was about to look at the git statistics :) |
| 18:03 |
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jcamins_away |
Will you be back a lot now? :) |
| 18:03 |
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sjtonnesen |
Is Chris Cormack still involved? |
| 18:03 |
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cait |
yes |
| 18:03 |
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cait |
his new nick is rangi |
| 18:03 |
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sjtonnesen |
Paul Poulain? |
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cait |
yes, and hdl |
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sjtonnesen |
Excellent. |
| 18:04 |
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sjtonnesen |
At the moment, I'm looking at Koha for a very small installation, so don't expect great things out of me for a bit. :) |
| 18:05 |
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cait |
is there something we can help you with? |
| 18:06 |
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sjtonnesen |
There used to be a simpler interface for cataloguing if the library didn't need the full MARC functionality. Is everything done with the MARC interface now? |
| 18:06 |
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jcamins_away |
Yes, MARC only. |
| 18:06 |
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sjtonnesen |
Okay, I'll have to live with that. I won't be dealing with real librarians here, but at least I can customize the MARC fields that show to make it fairly simple. |
| 18:07 |
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cait |
I think people create a simple framework with the most important fields at the moment, if they don't want to use full marc |
| 18:07 |
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sjtonnesen |
It is certainly much more impressive now for the real librarians, though. |
| 18:07 |
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sjtonnesen |
I see a few references to auto barcode generation when adding items, but it doesn't seem to work for me. Is that feature in limbo? |
| 18:08 |
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cait |
have you turned on the syspref? |
| 18:08 |
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cait |
I think it's called autobarcode or similar, with different settings |
| 18:08 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, it works. |
| 18:08 |
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sjtonnesen |
Yes, but haven't played with it much. I started using barcodes like T0001, so it looks like I might have to fiddle with that to get it to work with my barcodes. |
| 18:09 |
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cait |
it's a plugin, should not be too hard |
| 18:10 |
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sjtonnesen is now known as Steve_Tonnesen |
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Steve_Tonnesen |
Great. Thought I'd stop in and say hello. If anybody sees Chris, tell him I said hello. |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins_away |
@later tell rangi Steve Tonnesen says hi. |
| 18:11 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins_away |
:) |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins_away |
Now you don't have to worry about us forgetting. |
| 18:11 |
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cait |
I think he will perhaps show up soon |
| 18:11 |
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cait |
monday morning in nz |
| 18:12 |
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cait |
he is around a lot |
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* jcamins_away |
looks at bug 4421. |
| 19:00 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4421 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Should be possible to display location for bibs w/o items |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins_away |
It wasn't fun the first time he fixed it, and it's not going to be fun now, either. |
| 19:02 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 19:03 |
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jcamins_away |
http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]?biblionumber=301 |
| 19:03 |
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jcamins_away |
In the Holdings tab. |
| 19:04 |
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cait |
ah I see |
| 19:14 |
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cait |
was this submitted to koha and is broken now? |
| 19:14 |
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cait |
or a completely new feature? |
| 19:14 |
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jcamins_away |
Nope. |
| 19:14 |
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jcamins_away |
Never submitted. |
| 19:14 |
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jcamins_away |
'Cause it's kind of... icky. |
| 19:14 |
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cait |
I understand |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
calls for another syspref perhaps :) |
| 19:15 |
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jcamins_away |
Yup. |
| 19:15 |
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jcamins_away |
AlternateHoldingsField. |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
sounds good |
| 19:33 |
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rangi |
Steve_Tonnesen: holy crap!! |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
blast from the past! |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
jcamins++ for helping me find the right words :) |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
who here uses web based circulation? |
| 19:34 |
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* cait |
waves to rangi :) |
| 19:35 |
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cait |
sorry, we don't |
| 19:35 |
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cait |
we have this crazy sip2 self check things :( |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
for all circ? |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
(staff side too?) |
| 19:35 |
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cait |
not sip2 but rfid devices and a keyboard buffer solution (?) |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins_away |
What would happen if I replaced a <p> tag with a <div> tag? |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins_away |
I mean, in terms of functionality. |
| 19:35 |
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cait |
a little piece of software reading the number from the tag and passing it to the barcode field in koha |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins_away |
Wouldn't it be the same? |
| 19:36 |
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cait |
depends on the css |
| 19:36 |
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rangi |
cait: but the librarians don't ever circulate anything? |
| 19:36 |
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cait |
but basically both are block elements |
| 19:36 |
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cait |
rangi: they do, of course |
| 19:36 |
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rangi |
Steve_Tonnesen did that |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
there are always cases where the self check will refuse checkout but a librarian might override the limit |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
rangi: sorry? |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
before he did that, circ was all telnet |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
s/telnet/ssh/ |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
and curses |
| 19:37 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: but if there's no particular CSS, they're basically equivalent? |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
someone might now better, but I think so |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
Steve_Tonnesen wrote the first web based circulation system for Koha |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
ah |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
I recognized his name |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
which has morphed into what we all use now |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
was release manager too |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
from the git statistics |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
and the history file :) |
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jcamins_away |
Now I need to make this play nicely with sysprefs: https://github.com/jcamins/koh[…]de3ac57ae58506dd1 |
| 19:48 |
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jcamins_away |
Can't call method "subfields" on unblessed reference at /home/jcamins/kohaclone/opac/opac-detail.pl line 235. |
| 19:48 |
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jcamins_away |
^^ Anyone know what that means? |
| 19:48 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, I bet it means that there's no use MARC::Field |
| 19:49 |
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rangi |
that would do it |
| 19:49 |
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jcamins_away |
Or not. |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins_away |
It's got to be something like that, though. |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
how are you making your field object? |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins_away |
my @holdingsfields = $record->field(substr $fieldspec, 0, 3); |
| 19:51 |
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jcamins_away |
for my $field (@holdingsfields) |
| 19:51 |
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jcamins_away |
Wait, I think I see the problem. |
| 19:51 |
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jcamins_away |
Nope. It is not that I accidentally wrote "foreach" instead of "for." |
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| 19:52 |
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rangi |
Returns a list of tags that match the field specifier |
| 19:52 |
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rangi |
its not return field objects |
| 19:52 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh. |
| 19:53 |
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rangi |
fields() |
| 19:53 |
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rangi |
Returns a list of all the fields in the record. The list contains a MARC::Field object for |
| 19:53 |
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jcamins_away |
Well I guess that would not be what I want, then. |
| 19:53 |
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rangi |
each field in the record |
| 19:53 |
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rangi |
nope |
| 19:54 |
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jcamins_away |
I wonder wh it used to work. |
| 19:54 |
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rangi |
heres a quick way to check |
| 19:54 |
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rangi |
use Data::Dumper; |
| 19:55 |
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rangi |
warn Dumper @holdingsfields; |
| 19:55 |
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rangi |
see whats in there |
| 19:56 |
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jcamins_away |
A field. |
| 19:56 |
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jcamins_away |
Perhaps it doesn't like the list context? |
| 19:56 |
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rangi |
could be |
| 19:57 |
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rangi |
i think its passing a list ref |
| 19:57 |
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rangi |
try my $holdingfields |
| 19:57 |
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rangi |
then @$holdingfields |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh. |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins_away |
I clobbered a variable. |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
hmm in koha, do we have any note fields that dont show on the opac? |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins_away |
We do. |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
if i wanted a note on a record, that only showed on the staff side, can i do that? |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins_away |
952$y |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
oh cool |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
thanks |
| 19:59 |
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jcamins_away |
Sadly we don't display it most places in the Staff client either at the moment. |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
as long as its in the record, thats good enough for me |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
thanks |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
isnt 952y itemtype? |
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jcamins_away |
952x. |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins_away |
Sorry. |
| 20:00 |
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rangi |
ta |
| 20:00 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
but I think it's not a real field - no matching field in items |
| 20:00 |
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rangi |
right, i just want it in the marc |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
or it's mapped to a strange field |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
paidfor |
| 20:00 |
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rangi |
it contains an email address that only the cataloguers should see |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
I think robin did a patch somewhere to add a field to items - not sure what happened with it |
| 20:01 |
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jcamins_away |
I think the field was added. |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
easy enough to check |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
I think it was not - looking it up now |
| 20:02 |
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cait |
no, doesn't look like it |
| 20:03 |
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cait |
hm bug 2370 |
| 20:03 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2370 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC21 non-public note is mapped to items.paidfor |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
ah, bug 4222 |
| 20:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client |
| 20:08 |
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jcamins_away |
Well, this is weird. |
| 20:08 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 20:08 |
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jcamins_away |
Does the availability not show up in the search results when XSLT is disabled? |
| 20:09 |
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cait |
opac? don't know |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins_away |
Right. |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins_away |
I'm checking now. |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins_away |
It must. I'm sure it does. |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins_away |
Yup. |
| 20:10 |
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jcamins_away |
Ugh. |
| 20:11 |
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jcamins_away |
The availability information is passed in directly by C4::Search. |
| 20:14 |
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jcamins_away |
You know what? In the unlikely event that someone wants alternate availability information in the non-XSLT results view, *they* can figure out how to do it. |
| 20:14 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 20:15 |
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rangi |
jcamins_away: 4276 .. ok for me to test and push eh? |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins_away |
Yes indeed. :) |
| 20:15 |
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rangi |
cool will try and do that this morning |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins_away |
Yay! |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins_away |
Thanks! |
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jcamins_away |
Bother. You can't use select with call-template? |
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jcamins_away |
Argh! |
| 20:58 |
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jcamins_away |
There's no XSLT results display for the Staff client. |
| 20:59 |
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jcamins_away |
I don't want to understand C4::Search! |
| 20:59 |
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cait |
lol |
| 20:59 |
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mtj |
i thought staff xslt was in stable |
| 20:59 |
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cait |
perhaps you should add one? |
| 20:59 |
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rangi |
jcamins_away: its probably faster to get the xslt working |
| 21:00 |
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jcamins_away |
I don't think so. |
| 21:00 |
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rangi |
the stylesheet is all there |
| 21:00 |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: oh, really? |
| 21:00 |
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jcamins_away |
Why doesn't it work then? |
| 21:00 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 21:00 |
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cait |
mtj: only for opac |
| 21:00 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 79 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:00 |
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rangi |
cos no one has written the code to make it use it |
| 21:00 |
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jcamins_away |
Seriously? That's it? |
| 21:00 |
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rangi |
thats it |
| 21:00 |
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rangi |
style sheet is there |
| 21:00 |
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rangi |
syspref is there |
| 21:01 |
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rangi |
nothing is telling the template/script to use them |
| 21:01 |
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cait |
hm I don't see the file for staff -working on the xslt files right now |
| 21:02 |
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cait |
but probably you can use the opac file and change the links? |
| 21:02 |
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rangi |
hmm im sure i saw it, yeah you could do that |
| 21:02 |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. But the display is rather different. |
| 21:02 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ce078dde05ed4eb3> / Bug 4276: XSLT subject tracings only use subfield a <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]966f011de0fe2fca0> |
| 21:03 |
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rangi |
where did i see it |
| 21:06 |
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jcamins_away |
TransformMarcToKoha? |
| 21:06 |
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jcamins_away |
I'm pretty sure I don't want to know what that does. |
| 21:22 |
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cait |
hmpf |
| 21:22 |
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cait |
is there a reason we don't index 773$a? |
| 21:22 |
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cait |
only $t? |
| 21:23 |
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jcamins_away |
No. |
| 21:24 |
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jcamins_away |
But if you send a patch for indexing all the missing 7xx fields, I'll sign off on it. |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
I thought I could add $a to Host-item index, would this be ok in your eyes? |
| 21:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Yes. |
| 21:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Make sure you add it as :p, too. |
| 21:25 |
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druthb |
:p |
| 21:25 |
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cait |
? |
| 21:26 |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: do you know of any way to force Template Pro to only look through the first item in a list? |
| 21:26 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: phrase search. Like, Host-item:p |
| 21:26 |
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rangi |
nope |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
melm 773$a Host-item, Host-item:p? |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins_away |
Right. |
| 21:27 |
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cait |
hm someone should send me to bed... |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: go to bed. |
| 21:27 |
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jcamins_away |
It's late. |
| 21:28 |
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druthb |
Cait! Go to bed. It's nearly midnight for you! |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
druthb wins |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
much more persuasive |
| 21:28 |
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druthb |
victory! |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
but not persuasive enough |
| 21:28 |
|
* cait |
hides |
| 21:29 |
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druthb |
@quote get 102 |
| 21:29 |
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huginn |
druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) |
| 21:29 |
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cait |
No results match your search for 'Host-item:Das Schöne Konstanz am Bodensee und Rhein, die alte Stadt im deutschen Süden :'. |
| 21:30 |
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cait |
any ideas? |
| 21:31 |
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jcamins_away |
You reindexed? |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
yep |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
and copied file form kohaclone to koha-dev |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
a keyword search for schöne konstanz is not working too |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
only finds the host item, not my analytic |
| 21:32 |
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jcamins_away |
ICU? |
| 21:32 |
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wahanui |
i guess ICU is a friend of yaz, not really integrated. |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
no |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
I killed your :P |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
and now it works |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
not sure why - as always |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
hah |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
now it works |
| 21:34 |
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cait |
from analytic to host item and back - without using control numbers |
| 21:34 |
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jcamins_away |
Hooray! |
| 21:34 |
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jcamins_away |
I wonder why :p is necessary for 6xx fields but not that one. |
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druthb |
:p |
| 21:35 |
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cait |
hehe |
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jcamins_away |
Why did I just go from getting 135 search results to 2725? |
| 21:38 |
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rangi |
jcamins_away: in case you arent busy enough |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: uh-oh. What? |
| 21:39 |
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rangi |
how about cataloguing the newsletters into a marc file, so everyone can import the koha newsletters into their koha catalogue ;) |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins_away |
Heh. |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins_away |
I think Nicole got an ISSN, so I guess we could. |
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rangi |
*nod* |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins_away |
I mean, we could without the ISSN, but I prefer ISSNs. |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
could just be a 856u to the newsletter article on the koha-community.org site |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
just a random thought i had sparked by the newsletter release :) |
| 21:40 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #79: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/79/ |
| 21:40 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 4276: XSLT subject tracings only use subfield a |
| 21:40 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bumping database version |
| 21:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
4276 lives! |
| 21:41 |
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cait |
rangi = frankenstein? |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
does that make you igor? :) |
| 21:42 |
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cait |
why not |
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jcamins_away |
Drat. |
| 21:42 |
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jcamins_away |
This doesn't work right. |
| 21:42 |
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cait |
being igor could be fun in that case :) |
| 21:43 |
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cait |
jcamins: could I probably bribe you with virtual cookies to test my new xslt monster? |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
its monday, so it must be meeting time |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
bbiab |
| 21:44 |
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jcamins_away |
Woohoo! Now it works! |
| 21:44 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: sure. |
| 21:44 |
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jcamins_away |
You just saved me the inconvenience of doing that myself. |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
hope it works for you |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
it's the same schema I used for the other things |
| 21:46 |
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jcamins_away |
Me too! :D |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
remember to copy the record.abs file |
| 21:48 |
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cait |
sent |
| 21:48 |
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cait |
adding it to bug now :) |
| 21:49 |
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cait |
ok, now I can go to bed |
| 21:49 |
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jcamins_away |
Good night. |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
I have a dev list with a lot of smileys now :) |
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* cait |
hands jcamins some cookies |
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cait |
the rest when testing is done ;) |
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cait |
bye all :) |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.9�C (4:22 PM PDT on March 27, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
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bg |
@wunder wellington nz |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on March 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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bg |
rangi - looks like bg gets the win today |
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rangi |
yep |
