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hdl |
good night |
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rangi |
hmm time to stop answering emails |
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* chris_n |
checks in |
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chris_n |
eythian++ |
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Brooke_ |
kia ora |
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* Brooke_ |
mulls over precisely how much reading would needs be done to understand partitioning properly... |
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mtj |
just enuff to choose 'all' :) |
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mtj |
1, all, yes ... |
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Brooke_ |
yeah, that won't do it, unfortunately... |
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Brooke_ |
you'd think that buying Linux its own drive to play on would have made life easier |
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Brooke_ |
but nooooooo |
03:47 |
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* Brooke_ |
lets loose some naval class swears *again* |
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mtj |
heh, ive been dropping the f-bomb recently too |
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* Brooke_ |
titters at mj's idea of naval class swearing. |
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mtj |
feels pretty good, i gotta say.. |
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Brooke_ |
bah, lock ye in a wee metal tube for a few months underwater and ye'll do better in time, laddy. |
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* mtj |
turns up the public-enemy |
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Brooke_ |
hehehe |
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cait |
morning |
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ibeardslee |
evening ;) |
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* ibeardslee |
needs to head home of the eqnz stuff today |
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cait |
good morning paul_ü |
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paul_p |
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magnuse |
so how long did it take from someone reported a security vulnerability and until 3.2.5 was out? |
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francharb |
hello #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya francharb |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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francharb |
morning magnuse, kf ;) |
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magnuse |
hiya kf and paul_p |
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kf |
hi francharb, magnuse and paul_p |
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rangi |
Less than a day magnuse |
08:14 |
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rangi |
Bout 16 hours |
08:19 |
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magnuse |
thanks, cool! floss ftw! ;-) |
08:21 |
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kf |
:) |
08:21 |
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kf |
talking about 3.0.5? |
08:21 |
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kf |
hi rangi |
08:21 |
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magnuse |
or 3.2.5 ;-) |
08:21 |
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kf |
oh right |
08:23 |
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magnuse |
and it was reported by someone in france, fixed by someone in the us and double checked by someone in nz? |
08:25 |
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rangi |
Pretty much yep |
08:27 |
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kf |
:) |
08:28 |
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kf |
is there a way to check for other problems like that? |
08:32 |
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magnuse |
and it's cool that the problem was discovered not because someone took advantage of a vulnerability, but because someone was able to inspect the source code |
08:35 |
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rangi |
We went on a hunt a while back that one must have snuck in |
08:36 |
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rangi |
Its always worth making sure placeholders are used |
08:37 |
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rangi |
Anytime you are editing a file its worth checking |
08:37 |
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* magnuse |
wonders how hard it would be to write a script that would look for variable interpolation in SQL statements... probably non-trivial... |
08:38 |
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rangi |
Yeah |
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thd |
good morning paul_p |
08:46 |
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* magnuse |
suddenly remembers he hasn't had breakfast yet |
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08:46 |
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thd |
Who administers git.koha-community.org? |
08:47 |
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* magnus_breakfast |
thinks it would be neat if the list at the bottom here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Main_Page also said who hosts what... |
08:48 |
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* thd |
looks at what is listed there |
08:49 |
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mtj |
magnus_breakfast: bywater hosts http://git.koha-community.org/ |
08:49 |
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mtj |
one of the many helpful things bywater does for the Koha project |
08:50 |
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thd |
mtj: Do you know the pupose of the flashing button at the top of http://git.koha-community.org? |
08:51 |
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mtj |
what flashing button? |
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kmkale |
Namaskar #koha |
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kf |
hi kmkale |
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kmkale |
hi kf |
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thd |
mtj: Sorry, that seems to be a problem with my browser. |
08:53 |
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thd |
mtj: some strange graphics substitution. |
09:01 |
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thd |
mtj: Has everyone known to be involved in Koha in NZ and people dearest to them survived the earthquake unharmed? |
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mtj |
as far as i know... |
09:03 |
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mtj |
there's still a lot of people unaccounted for :/ |
09:04 |
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thd |
mtj: Is Wellington prone to earthquakes? |
09:06 |
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mtj |
yeah, apparently |
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09:11 |
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rangi |
We had a huge one in 1840 |
09:11 |
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rangi |
And lie of a bunch of faultlines |
09:11 |
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rangi |
Of=on |
09:13 |
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* thd |
grew up in California with the house noticeably shaking at least twice a year. |
09:14 |
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mtj |
http://www.wcl.govt.nz/heritage/earthquakes.html |
09:15 |
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rangi |
http://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Lea[…]/Wellington-Fault |
09:18 |
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rangi |
we are due an 8 |
09:18 |
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rangi |
sometime in the next 50 years the geologists reckon |
09:18 |
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rangi |
but theres no point worrying about it |
09:18 |
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rangi |
theres not a lot you can do to prepare for an 8 |
09:19 |
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* thd |
's father had been head of design and safety of dams in California. |
09:19 |
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rangi |
having said that, i did make sure all our water bottles are full |
09:19 |
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magnuse |
sounds like a good precaution! |
09:21 |
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thd |
After my father retired from the California Department of Water Resources he did some work on earth quake preparedness for Los Angeles in the 1980s. |
09:22 |
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thd |
Los Angeles has multiple major faults and had had major earthquakes but had no emergency plan specifically for earthquakes in the early 1980s. |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 379 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #374 4 days 5 hr ago) |
09:24 |
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thd |
My emergency plan is only to visit but not live in earthquake prone areas. |
09:26 |
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thd |
One of the faults near San Francisco runs directly through the main libraries at UC Berkeley. |
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magnuse |
tajoli++ # for posting his article to e-lis |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #379: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/379/ |
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rangi |
http://blog.labour.org.nz/inde[…]ng-ict-community/ |
10:28 |
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magnuse |
cool |
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magnuse |
g'day druthb |
11:24 |
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magnuse |
@wunder bodo, norway |
11:24 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (12:20 PM CET on February 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
11:24 |
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magnuse |
that's more like it... |
11:24 |
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druthb |
hi, magnus! |
11:25 |
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druthb |
@wunder 20852 |
11:25 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 6.9�C (6:30 AM EST on February 25, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.48 in 998.2 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 11 am this morning to 2 PM EST this afternoon... |
11:27 |
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hdl |
thd: The z3950 server for solr is now working fine. thanks for your input |
11:42 |
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magnuse |
cool! |
12:02 |
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kf |
hm, are reviews from patrons always moderated? |
12:05 |
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magnuse |
kf: "All comments added by patrons via the OPAC to bibliographic records require moderation by the librarians." http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x5745 |
12:06 |
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kf |
oh right... should check the manual :) thx magnus! |
12:06 |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
where do I moderate them? |
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kf |
I only see the tool for moderating tags under tools |
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magnuse |
kf: /cgi-bin/koha/reviews/reviewswaiting.pl |
12:08 |
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kf |
grr found it |
12:08 |
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kf |
I am really blind today |
12:08 |
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kf |
thx again :) magnuse++ |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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JesseM |
Good morning #Koha |
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nengard |
morning JesseM |
12:57 |
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nengard |
how's your library crash course going? |
12:58 |
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JesseM |
going well. just sooo much info. |
12:58 |
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* druthb |
waves to JesseM. |
12:59 |
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nengard |
the one good thing is that librarians are helpful people :) so you can always ask for help |
13:00 |
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JesseM |
yes and i appreciate that :) |
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thd |
hdl: Is the address for SimpleServer using Solr/Lucene the same? |
13:35 |
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hdl |
yes |
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thd |
hdl: What query can I run to find matches? |
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oleonard |
bywater++ # for fixing the very nasty bug 5805 |
13:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5805 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, Changing Pickup library on already queued holds causes havoc on all holds below it |
13:57 |
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druthb |
:) |
14:01 |
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oleonard |
druthb++ # too |
14:01 |
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druthb |
nengard++ |
14:01 |
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druthb |
thanks, owen. :) |
14:12 |
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bg |
morning |
14:14 |
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thd |
hdl : The connection works from yaz-client but when I try from PHP YAZ I have a connection lost error for flaubert. |
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hdl |
thd: thanks for reporting. |
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hdl |
it is strange. |
14:20 |
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hdl |
I think someone is working on th solr stuff, causing the server to crash. |
14:20 |
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hdl |
I will tell you when it is up again |
14:20 |
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thd |
Well that would explain. |
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* slef |
boogies into #koha |
14:24 |
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oleonard |
Hi slef |
14:24 |
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* slef |
just found http://cchits.net/ |
14:25 |
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kf |
hi slef |
14:26 |
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* slef |
gets a patch backwards. Oops. |
14:26 |
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* slef |
is finally working on koha again |
14:26 |
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slef |
I may even get to unstable this week :) |
14:28 |
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thd |
hdl: 206.196.111.194 cannot obtain a connection to the Lyon 3 test, although, I can connect from home. |
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magnuse |
working_on_koha++ # ;-) |
14:36 |
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oleonard |
Anyone else having problems with an authority search from addbiblio.pl? I tried a personal name search, found a result, clicked choose and got: |
14:36 |
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oleonard |
Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80. |
14:37 |
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slef |
oleonard: if no-one beats me to it, I'll check as I remember which catalogue we host that uses authorities on them :) Can you get a backtrace? |
14:38 |
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oleonard |
backtrace? |
14:38 |
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druthb |
@later tell wizzyrea buzz me when you get a chance? |
14:38 |
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huginn |
druthb: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
yo |
14:38 |
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druthb |
:D |
14:39 |
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wizzyrea |
:) I just was reading my email :) |
14:39 |
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* druthb |
gives huginn a cookie for good service. |
14:39 |
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slef |
oleonard: SetEnv KOHA_BACKTRACES 1 in the right virtualhost bit of koha-httpd.conf and reload, then cause the error. |
14:39 |
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wizzyrea |
huginn: botsnack cookie |
14:39 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
14:39 |
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wahanui1 |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
14:42 |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Where do you see Bug 5812? |
14:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5812 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Tag Cloud - capitalized words come before lower-case words |
14:43 |
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wizzyrea |
in the OPAC |
14:43 |
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wizzyrea |
ummmm let me see if I can get you a screencap |
14:43 |
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druthb |
http://screencast.com/t/CrasgR7IcZYg |
14:43 |
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oleonard |
That one needs more context :) |
14:43 |
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wizzyrea |
ah yes, that |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/9f1xmmgmWzkI |
14:44 |
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wizzyrea |
well bother |
14:44 |
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wizzyrea |
one sec, let me use an arrow |
14:45 |
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druthb |
I see it, though. All the words starting with caps show up before any word without. |
14:45 |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/xj2fNE3oW |
14:47 |
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oleonard |
Thanks wizzyrea, I'm able to duplicate it now |
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oleonard |
slef: Is setting KOHA_BACKTRACES to 1 supposed to give me different info in the onscreen error or the log? |
15:03 |
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slef |
onscreen |
15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: there is a syspref in local use |
15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
WarnOnlyOnMaxFine |
15:11 |
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wizzyrea |
that you may want to look at |
15:11 |
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* wizzyrea |
is finding all sorts of gems in there |
15:13 |
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* oleonard |
thinks wizzyrea made that one up |
15:13 |
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wizzyrea |
I totally didn't |
15:14 |
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oleonard |
Looks like a Harley thing |
15:14 |
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oleonard |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3507 |
15:14 |
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huginn |
Bug 3507: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, NEW, Circ rules enhancements, maximum fine warning |
15:18 |
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oleonard |
slef: Sorry, I didn't think it had worked, but I guess it did. No new information shows |
15:18 |
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oleonard |
Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80. |
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oleonard |
at /kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80 |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
15:19 |
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wizzyrea |
that's odd bc... well let me double triple check |
15:19 |
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* wizzyrea |
has way too many koha windows open |
15:19 |
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wizzyrea |
I sometimes get confused |
15:20 |
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wizzyrea |
ok yes sorry, that's a harleyism |
15:21 |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: we fixed our problem with the "return home" prompts -- they work fine as long as you have your sysprefs set up right |
15:21 |
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oleonard |
Oh good. |
15:22 |
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* wizzyrea |
was unaware of the existence of "HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn" |
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kf |
WarnOnlyOnMaxFine??? |
15:22 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry sorry, it's a harleyism |
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kf |
ah |
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* kf |
thougth she was going crazy |
15:23 |
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kf |
has been looking through sys prefs all day |
15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
hopefully soon I"ll be doing less of that |
15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
(referencing harleyisms) |
15:34 |
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oleonard |
I think I've reached the limit of what patch-pushed bugs I can properly test |
15:34 |
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* oleonard |
passes the baton |
15:35 |
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slef |
oleonard: ok, I'll give it a crack. How do you get to that problem? |
15:35 |
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slef |
authority search from addbiblio |
15:35 |
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slef |
any more specifics? |
15:37 |
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oleonard |
In my case I clicked to search for an author (100a) and did a search by Main entry ($a only) |
15:37 |
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oleonard |
Got one result, clicked "choose" for that result |
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oleonard |
a new window popped up with the error message |
15:37 |
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slef |
ok, just tried that, worksforme |
15:37 |
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slef |
3.2.5 |
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wizzyrea |
atz__: in case you were wondering if having a blog was worthwhile: it totally is, as you have just gotten the kansas contingent of overdrive users all in a tizzy. |
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oleonard |
It was a good post: http://atzberger.blogspot.com/[…]this-message.html |
15:48 |
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oleonard |
Although part of me wants to say "What did you expect from OverDrive?" |
15:49 |
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wizzyrea |
I agree with that, but it still sucks, and I feel like people are ignoring it |
15:49 |
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wizzyrea |
"well that's the price of being able to offer digital content" |
15:49 |
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wizzyrea |
uh, no |
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gmcharlt |
though the alternative to OverDrive is libraries organizing themselves to work with the publishers collectively |
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* slef |
applauds gmcharlt for the various patching work |
15:57 |
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rhcl |
we just bought into Overdrive, and I am personally not at all happy. |
15:57 |
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slef |
gmcharlt: they could form an Online Centre for Library Collective bargaining... oh, wait, ... |
15:57 |
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gmcharlt |
at the moment, I get the impression that the publishers like working with OverDrive because it is a single entity to talk to |
15:58 |
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rhcl |
It is so totally locked up, and doesn't work with Linux at all. |
15:58 |
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gmcharlt |
libraries working individually would be betting *much* worse terms from the ebook publishers, I think |
15:58 |
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gmcharlt |
so I believe that any solution that's better for libraries than OverDrive has to be done collectively |
15:58 |
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rhcl |
I've let it be known that Overdrive as a toll free help number, and that's who they should call when the angry patrons start coming in. |
15:58 |
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slef |
rhcl: we lost the platform-neutrality argument with DVDs sadly :-( |
15:58 |
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gmcharlt |
slef: instant trademark lawsuit! ;) |
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gmcharlt: bah, trademarks are an anti-competitive monopoly. Someone should accuse OCLC of that sort of thing ;-) |
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rhcl: is there a polite way to say "we told you so"? |
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rhcl |
Well, with DVDs -- those are going the way of the floppy--everything is a digital file now, either on a thumb drive or a stream from the cloud. |
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slef: heh. there is a rather an irony that SkyRiver, which is a creature of III, that's in fact the one doing that in the US courts |
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gmcharlt: oh, there's so much irony in that dispute we could mine it and make steel! |
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(or would that be steely?) |
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slef: the muppets version of "any old iron" just came to mind :) |
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hrm, tried to comment on atz__ blog, but I've no idea if it went through or not. Definitely didn't appear on the page. |
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I was trying to suggest maybe DxD would run a petition like http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon1984 for it. |
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slef: not seeing your comment. not running moderation on comments either, so idk. |
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atz__: another google bug :-( |
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slef |
Google, the OverDrive of the web. |
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have a nice weekend #koha .) |
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:) |
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atz__: http://librarianbyday.net/2011[…]-giant-step-back/ |
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way to let the cat out of the bag, that kitty wanted to be free |
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atz__: wizzyrea: http://chronicle.com/blogs/wir[…]-of-america/29897 |
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ooo thanks |
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nengard |
what preference makes it so that when you click on a subject heading or author it does an autority search instead of a subject search |
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pats oleonard |
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oleonard |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
btw, the sound cues are quite ear pleasing |
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wizzyrea |
very melodious |
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oleonard |
The sound cues were not my thing, if that's what you mean |
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wizzyrea |
no |
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wizzyrea |
that's something totally different |
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just sayin; |
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I didn't think my staff would like them but they mostly do. |
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oleonard |
http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]on_ebook.html.csp |
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oleonard |
Not the kind of audio volume control I was thinking of, but funny: |
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oleonard |
http://www.ironicsans.com/volumething/ |
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tcohen |
anyone with a few seconds to explain the use of link_bibs_to_authorities.pl |
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tcohen |
?? |
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tcohen |
(is it safe?) |
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tcohen |
ok, i'll read the code |
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jcamins_away |
tcohen: I wouldn't. |
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jcamins_away |
(use it) |
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hates that there are things in Koha that we shouldn't use. We should take them out. |
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jcamins_away |
Or fix them. |
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tcohen |
LinkBibHeadingsToAuthorities doesn't look bad |
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tcohen |
you mean like removing zebraqueue? |
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tcohen |
:D |
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(zerbaqueue_daemon i mean) |
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nengard |
oleonard did you have an issue after upgrading virtualbox? |
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nengard |
it keeps prompting me to upgrade, but i remember others having issues |
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nengard |
so i've held off |
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jcamins_away |
nengard: my upgrade seemed to work fine. |
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nengard |
good stuff |
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jcamins_away |
But then, my VM is broken half the time anyway, so how would I know? |
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nengard |
hehe |
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tcohen |
nengard: oleonard had to tell virtualbox to forget "saved states" about usb's or something |
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tcohen |
jcamins: is there any reported bug around link_bibs_to... ? |
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tcohen: no, because I can't clearly identify any problem with it. It just seems to cause problems. |
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jcamins_away |
Wow. |
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jcamins_away |
It just got *black* out. |
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tcohen |
ok, i'll do some test and report back if I find something |
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tcohen |
have a nice weekend #koha |
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fcapo |
There's bug 5410 :/ |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5410 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED, "Right truncation not supported" error when running link_bibs_to_authorities.pl |
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oleonard |
nengard: I had to discard my VM's saved state after upgrading |
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nengard |
i'm not sure what that means - but i'll upgrade and you can tell me :) hehe |
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oleonard |
I would shut down your vm all the way first |
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nengard |
oo it's fancy |
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nengard |
okay how do i clear the saved state - cause i got a usb error |
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jcamins_away |
If you don't use USB, couldn't you just disable it? |
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(just guessing) |
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oleonard |
right-click on that VM's entry I think |
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nengard |
jcamins - my mouse is usb |
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jcamins_away |
nengard: VirtualBox cares? |
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jcamins_away |
I have a USB keyboard and mouse, and never noticed it being a problem that I had disabled USB. |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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isn't an expert, though. |
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tcohen |
the usb devices are "passed" directly to the virtual machine to handle them |
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tcohen |
BUT |
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tcohen |
that's not true for input devices |
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tcohen |
as virtualbox does some extra stuff for using them in the host OS |
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wizzyrea |
rhcl: about? |
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wizzyrea |
generally: with envisionware does anybody know if it pulls the PIN From the opac login? |
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wizzyrea |
or somewhere else |
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* jcamins_away |
does not know. |
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wizzyrea |
I honestly cannot think of another field that it would use |
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wizzyrea |
envisionware = SIP, if that triggers an alert for anybody :P |
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knows that libraries are using it successfully with Koha, though. |
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wizzyrea |
the PIN? |
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jcamins_away |
No, Envisionware. |
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wizzyrea |
we use envisionware and it works passably enough |
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jcamins_away |
Sorry. |
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wizzyrea |
:) sok |
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rhcl |
I'm here |
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rhcl |
AFAIK Envisionware sends the login ID and PIN to the ILS server just like most other things. |
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rhcl |
Was that not the question though? |
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wizzyrea |
yep that was the question |
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wizzyrea |
so it's the opac login? |
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wizzyrea |
for user/pass |
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pin |
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wizzyrea |
ty for the info rhcl |
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rhcl |
What's the difference between an OPAC login and the regular Koha library card/PIN? |
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rhcl |
We looked at Envisionware for a while, and actually had a couple of personal demos at trade shows. |
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rhcl |
If you are OK with a closed, proprietary system Envisionware looks like it has more polish and is better put together than most other PAC access systems. |
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rhcl |
But I pretty much prefer Libki these days--I have total control over both the server and the clients. |
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rhcl |
Envisionware is one of those systems where you are totally dependent on them, don't open the box or it'll explode. |
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rhcl |
It's also better accessorized than some others--they have integrated copiers, printers, coffee pots, etc. |
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rhcl |
And if I remember right they also have the automated book return sorter thingers. |
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wizzyrea |
I don't really have a say in what they use |
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wizzyrea |
my libraries are buying envisionware |
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* jcamins_away |
giggles at the idea of a coffee pot controlled by SIP. |
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wizzyrea |
tee hee |
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rhcl |
Expensive, but with the "closed system" caveat Envisionware seems to work well. |
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imagines someone coming into the office and going to get a cup of coffee only to be told "too many fines. Please see circulation desk." |
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rhcl |
You know, that's an idea really. These access systems can accept cash via coin and bill machines, and can maintain a credit balance.... |
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jcamins_away |
Or even better "your coffee mug has been recalled. Please return to the circulation desk immediately." |
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rhcl |
so that patrons can print without paying, with the cost deducted from their on-line balance. |
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wizzyrea |
haha |
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wizzyrea |
alright: http://wizzyrea.wordpress.com/[…]e-need-your-help/ |
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* wizzyrea |
shamelessly self promotes |
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jcamins_away |
rhcl: it makes sense. I'm just enjoying the image of someone being denied a cup of coffee because they don't return their books. |
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rhcl |
Why couldn't you have a pay coffee machine which SIP accesses an ILS database and deducts 95 cents for money? |
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* wizzyrea |
imagines lending coffee |
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* wizzyrea |
wonders what the return chute would look like |
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rhcl |
Or if it was a simple overdue book, maybe the could get black coffee, but not cream and sugar???? Works for me. |
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rhcl |
Heck, I'll bet Overdrive could figure out a way to lend coffee cups and have them auto-disintegrate after 14 days. |
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rhcl |
But they probably wouldn't work with Linux.... |
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jcamins_away |
Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to tell Zebra to only find matches for two terms in the *same* field? |
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is thinking about relator terms. |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea:LOL |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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jcamins_away |
Good night, #koha. |
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* oleonard |
has a holiday calendar widget breakthrough |
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* wizzyrea |
cheers for oleonard |
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* gmcharlt |
therefore declares today, 25 February, as Calendar Widget Day |
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just tried to do a Spotlight search on his Win7 machine |
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oleonard |
Battle of the calendar widgets: http://screencast.com/t/pQMI8Dff2 |
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wizzyrea |
purty |
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wizzyrea |
I like the top better in most all ways |
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bg |
yup the top is purty |
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gmcharlt |
agreed |
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oleonard |
That's a fairly plain jQuery UI themed widget, the one I've got in my jQueryUI branch right now (extra large for the holidays page) |
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wizzyrea |
every time rangi writes me a query to look at something, I learn something about mysql. |
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wizzyrea |
I love that. |
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wizzyrea |
thanks rangi :) |
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wizzyrea |
rangi++ |
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bg |
@karma rangi |
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huginn |
bg: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9. |
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bg |
@karma brendan |
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huginn |
bg: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 24 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 24. |
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bg |
@karma bg |
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huginn |
bg: bg has neutral karma. |
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bg |
:) |
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@wunder 93109 |
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bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 10.6�C (1:51 PM PST on February 25, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). |
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snail |
morning all |
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slef |
hi snail |
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* slef |
is watching NZvAUS highlights. Don't tell him how it finishes. |
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slef |
well that's over |
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snail |
slef: NZvAUS in what sport? urban search and rescue? |
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snail |
oh, cricket. yes, well, that was never going to be much of a pairing... |
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