Time Nick Message 00:02 hdl good night 00:18 rangi hmm time to stop answering emails 00:36 * chris_n checks in 00:39 chris_n eythian++ 02:45 Brooke_ kia ora 03:45 * Brooke_ mulls over precisely how much reading would needs be done to understand partitioning properly... 03:46 mtj just enuff to choose 'all' :) 03:46 mtj 1, all, yes ... 03:46 Brooke_ yeah, that won't do it, unfortunately... 03:47 Brooke_ you'd think that buying Linux its own drive to play on would have made life easier 03:47 Brooke_ but nooooooo 03:47 * Brooke_ lets loose some naval class swears *again* 03:48 mtj heh, ive been dropping the f-bomb recently too 03:48 * Brooke_ titters at mj's idea of naval class swearing. 03:49 mtj feels pretty good, i gotta say.. 03:49 Brooke_ bah, lock ye in a wee metal tube for a few months underwater and ye'll do better in time, laddy. 03:50 * mtj turns up the public-enemy 03:50 Brooke_ hehehe 05:43 cait morning 05:47 ibeardslee evening ;) 05:48 * ibeardslee needs to head home of the eqnz stuff today 07:02 cait good morning paul_ü 07:02 cait paul_p 07:44 magnuse so how long did it take from someone reported a security vulnerability and until 3.2.5 was out? 07:56 francharb hello #koha 08:00 magnuse hiya francharb 08:01 kf good morning #koha 08:03 francharb morning magnuse, kf ;) 08:05 magnuse hiya kf and paul_p 08:07 kf hi francharb, magnuse and paul_p 08:14 rangi Less than a day magnuse 08:14 rangi Bout 16 hours 08:19 magnuse thanks, cool! floss ftw! ;-) 08:21 kf :) 08:21 kf talking about 3.0.5? 08:21 kf hi rangi 08:21 magnuse or 3.2.5 ;-) 08:21 kf oh right 08:23 magnuse and it was reported by someone in france, fixed by someone in the us and double checked by someone in nz? 08:25 rangi Pretty much yep 08:27 kf :) 08:28 kf is there a way to check for other problems like that? 08:32 magnuse and it's cool that the problem was discovered not because someone took advantage of a vulnerability, but because someone was able to inspect the source code 08:35 rangi We went on a hunt a while back that one must have snuck in 08:36 rangi Its always worth making sure placeholders are used 08:37 rangi Anytime you are editing a file its worth checking 08:37 * magnuse wonders how hard it would be to write a script that would look for variable interpolation in SQL statements... probably non-trivial... 08:38 rangi Yeah 08:45 thd good morning paul_p 08:46 * magnuse suddenly remembers he hasn't had breakfast yet 08:46 thd Who administers git.koha-community.org? 08:47 * magnus_breakfast thinks it would be neat if the list at the bottom here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Main_Page also said who hosts what... 08:48 * thd looks at what is listed there 08:49 mtj magnus_breakfast: bywater hosts http://git.koha-community.org/ 08:49 mtj one of the many helpful things bywater does for the Koha project 08:50 thd mtj: Do you know the pupose of the flashing button at the top of http://git.koha-community.org? 08:51 mtj what flashing button? 08:52 kmkale Namaskar #koha 08:52 kf hi kmkale 08:53 kmkale hi kf 08:53 thd mtj: Sorry, that seems to be a problem with my browser. 08:53 thd mtj: some strange graphics substitution. 09:01 thd mtj: Has everyone known to be involved in Koha in NZ and people dearest to them survived the earthquake unharmed? 09:03 mtj as far as i know... 09:03 mtj there's still a lot of people unaccounted for :/ 09:04 thd mtj: Is Wellington prone to earthquakes? 09:06 mtj yeah, apparently 09:11 rangi We had a huge one in 1840 09:11 rangi And lie of a bunch of faultlines 09:11 rangi Of=on 09:13 * thd grew up in California with the house noticeably shaking at least twice a year. 09:14 mtj http://www.wcl.govt.nz/heritage/earthquakes.html 09:15 rangi http://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Learning/Science-Topics/Earthquakes/New-Zealand-s-Fault-Lines/Major-Faults-in-New-Zealand/Wellington-Fault 09:18 rangi we are due an 8 09:18 rangi sometime in the next 50 years the geologists reckon 09:18 rangi but theres no point worrying about it 09:18 rangi theres not a lot you can do to prepare for an 8 09:19 * thd 's father had been head of design and safety of dams in California. 09:19 rangi having said that, i did make sure all our water bottles are full 09:19 magnuse sounds like a good precaution! 09:21 thd After my father retired from the California Department of Water Resources he did some work on earth quake preparedness for Los Angeles in the 1980s. 09:22 thd Los Angeles has multiple major faults and had had major earthquakes but had no emergency plan specifically for earthquakes in the early 1980s. 09:23 hudsonbot Starting build 379 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #374 4 days 5 hr ago) 09:24 thd My emergency plan is only to visit but not live in earthquake prone areas. 09:26 thd One of the faults near San Francisco runs directly through the main libraries at UC Berkeley. 09:28 magnuse tajoli++ # for posting his article to e-lis 09:48 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #379: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/379/ 10:24 rangi http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/02/25/christchurch-earthquake-our-amazing-ict-community/ 10:28 magnuse cool 11:24 magnuse g'day druthb 11:24 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway 11:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (12:20 PM CET on February 25, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 11:24 magnuse that's more like it... 11:24 druthb hi, magnus! 11:25 druthb @wunder 20852 11:25 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 6.9�C (6:30 AM EST on February 25, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.48 in 998.2 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 11 am this morning to 2 PM EST this afternoon... 11:27 hdl thd: The z3950 server for solr is now working fine. thanks for your input 11:42 magnuse cool! 12:02 kf hm, are reviews from patrons always moderated? 12:05 magnuse kf: "All comments added by patrons via the OPAC to bibliographic records require moderation by the librarians." http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x5745 12:06 kf oh right... should check the manual :) thx magnus! 12:06 kf hm 12:07 kf where do I moderate them? 12:07 kf I only see the tool for moderating tags under tools 12:07 magnuse kf: /cgi-bin/koha/reviews/reviewswaiting.pl 12:08 kf grr found it 12:08 kf I am really blind today 12:08 kf thx again :) magnuse++ 12:08 magnuse hehe 12:56 JesseM Good morning #Koha 12:57 nengard morning JesseM 12:57 nengard how's your library crash course going? 12:58 JesseM going well. just sooo much info. 12:58 * druthb waves to JesseM. 12:59 nengard the one good thing is that librarians are helpful people :) so you can always ask for help 13:00 JesseM yes and i appreciate that :) 13:35 thd hdl: Is the address for SimpleServer using Solr/Lucene the same? 13:35 hdl yes 13:46 thd hdl: What query can I run to find matches? 13:50 oleonard bywater++ # for fixing the very nasty bug 5805 13:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5805 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED, Changing Pickup library on already queued holds causes havoc on all holds below it 13:57 druthb :) 14:01 oleonard druthb++ # too 14:01 druthb nengard++ 14:01 druthb thanks, owen. :) 14:12 bg morning 14:14 thd hdl : The connection works from yaz-client but when I try from PHP YAZ I have a connection lost error for flaubert. 14:18 hdl thd: thanks for reporting. 14:18 hdl it is strange. 14:20 hdl I think someone is working on th solr stuff, causing the server to crash. 14:20 hdl I will tell you when it is up again 14:20 thd Well that would explain. 14:24 * slef boogies into #koha 14:24 oleonard Hi slef 14:24 * slef just found http://cchits.net/ 14:25 kf hi slef 14:26 * slef gets a patch backwards. Oops. 14:26 * slef is finally working on koha again 14:26 slef I may even get to unstable this week :) 14:28 thd hdl: 206.196.111.194 cannot obtain a connection to the Lyon 3 test, although, I can connect from home. 14:36 magnuse working_on_koha++ # ;-) 14:36 oleonard Anyone else having problems with an authority search from addbiblio.pl? I tried a personal name search, found a result, clicked choose and got: 14:36 oleonard Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80. 14:37 slef oleonard: if no-one beats me to it, I'll check as I remember which catalogue we host that uses authorities on them :) Can you get a backtrace? 14:38 oleonard backtrace? 14:38 druthb @later tell wizzyrea buzz me when you get a chance? 14:38 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded. 14:38 wizzyrea yo 14:38 druthb :D 14:39 wizzyrea :) I just was reading my email :) 14:39 * druthb gives huginn a cookie for good service. 14:39 slef oleonard: SetEnv KOHA_BACKTRACES 1 in the right virtualhost bit of koha-httpd.conf and reload, then cause the error. 14:39 wizzyrea huginn: botsnack cookie 14:39 huginn wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 14:39 wahanui1 i already had it that way, huginn. 14:42 oleonard wizzyrea: Where do you see Bug 5812? 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5812 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Tag Cloud - capitalized words come before lower-case words 14:43 wizzyrea in the OPAC 14:43 wizzyrea ummmm let me see if I can get you a screencap 14:43 druthb http://screencast.com/t/CrasgR7IcZYg 14:43 oleonard That one needs more context :) 14:43 wizzyrea ah yes, that 14:44 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/9f1xmmgmWzkI 14:44 wizzyrea well bother 14:44 wizzyrea one sec, let me use an arrow 14:45 druthb I see it, though. All the words starting with caps show up before any word without. 14:45 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/xj2fNE3oW 14:47 oleonard Thanks wizzyrea, I'm able to duplicate it now 15:01 oleonard slef: Is setting KOHA_BACKTRACES to 1 supposed to give me different info in the onscreen error or the log? 15:03 slef onscreen 15:11 wizzyrea jcamins: there is a syspref in local use 15:11 wizzyrea WarnOnlyOnMaxFine 15:11 wizzyrea that you may want to look at 15:11 * wizzyrea is finding all sorts of gems in there 15:13 * oleonard thinks wizzyrea made that one up 15:13 wizzyrea I totally didn't 15:14 oleonard Looks like a Harley thing 15:14 oleonard http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3507 15:14 huginn 04Bug 3507: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, NEW, Circ rules enhancements, maximum fine warning 15:18 oleonard slef: Sorry, I didn't think it had worked, but I guess it did. No new information shows 15:18 oleonard Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80. 15:19 oleonard at /kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80 15:19 wizzyrea hm 15:19 wizzyrea that's odd bc... well let me double triple check 15:19 * wizzyrea has way too many koha windows open 15:19 wizzyrea I sometimes get confused 15:20 wizzyrea ok yes sorry, that's a harleyism 15:21 wizzyrea oleonard: we fixed our problem with the "return home" prompts -- they work fine as long as you have your sysprefs set up right 15:21 oleonard Oh good. 15:22 * wizzyrea was unaware of the existence of "HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn" 15:22 kf WarnOnlyOnMaxFine??? 15:22 wizzyrea sorry sorry, it's a harleyism 15:22 kf ah 15:23 * kf thougth she was going crazy 15:23 kf has been looking through sys prefs all day 15:23 wizzyrea hopefully soon I"ll be doing less of that 15:23 wizzyrea (referencing harleyisms) 15:34 oleonard I think I've reached the limit of what patch-pushed bugs I can properly test 15:34 * oleonard passes the baton 15:35 slef oleonard: ok, I'll give it a crack. How do you get to that problem? 15:35 slef authority search from addbiblio 15:35 slef any more specifics? 15:37 oleonard In my case I clicked to search for an author (100a) and did a search by Main entry ($a only) 15:37 oleonard Got one result, clicked "choose" for that result 15:37 oleonard a new window popped up with the error message 15:37 slef ok, just tried that, worksforme 15:37 slef 3.2.5 15:47 wizzyrea atz__: in case you were wondering if having a blog was worthwhile: it totally is, as you have just gotten the kansas contingent of overdrive users all in a tizzy. 15:48 oleonard It was a good post: http://atzberger.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-overdrive-drm-terms-this-message.html 15:48 oleonard Although part of me wants to say "What did you expect from OverDrive?" 15:49 wizzyrea I agree with that, but it still sucks, and I feel like people are ignoring it 15:49 wizzyrea "well that's the price of being able to offer digital content" 15:49 wizzyrea uh, no 15:57 gmcharlt though the alternative to OverDrive is libraries organizing themselves to work with the publishers collectively 15:57 * slef applauds gmcharlt for the various patching work 15:57 rhcl we just bought into Overdrive, and I am personally not at all happy. 15:57 slef gmcharlt: they could form an Online Centre for Library Collective bargaining... oh, wait, ... 15:57 gmcharlt at the moment, I get the impression that the publishers like working with OverDrive because it is a single entity to talk to 15:58 rhcl It is so totally locked up, and doesn't work with Linux at all. 15:58 gmcharlt libraries working individually would be betting *much* worse terms from the ebook publishers, I think 15:58 gmcharlt so I believe that any solution that's better for libraries than OverDrive has to be done collectively 15:58 rhcl I've let it be known that Overdrive as a toll free help number, and that's who they should call when the angry patrons start coming in. 15:58 slef rhcl: we lost the platform-neutrality argument with DVDs sadly :-( 15:58 gmcharlt slef: instant trademark lawsuit! ;) 15:59 slef gmcharlt: bah, trademarks are an anti-competitive monopoly. Someone should accuse OCLC of that sort of thing ;-) 16:00 slef rhcl: is there a polite way to say "we told you so"? 16:00 rhcl Well, with DVDs -- those are going the way of the floppy--everything is a digital file now, either on a thumb drive or a stream from the cloud. 16:00 gmcharlt slef: heh. there is a rather an irony that SkyRiver, which is a creature of III, that's in fact the one doing that in the US courts 16:00 slef gmcharlt: oh, there's so much irony in that dispute we could mine it and make steel! 16:01 slef (or would that be steely?) 16:01 gmcharlt slef: the muppets version of "any old iron" just came to mind :) 16:05 slef hrm, tried to comment on atz__ blog, but I've no idea if it went through or not. Definitely didn't appear on the page. 16:05 slef I was trying to suggest maybe DxD would run a petition like http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon1984 for it. 16:07 atz__ slef: not seeing your comment. not running moderation on comments either, so idk. 16:09 slef atz__: another google bug :-( 16:10 slef Google, the OverDrive of the web. 16:11 kf have a nice weekend #koha .) 16:11 kf :) 16:18 wizzyrea atz__: http://librarianbyday.net/2011/02/25/publishing-industry-forces-overdrive-and-other-library-ebook-vendors-to-take-a-giant-step-back/ 16:19 wizzyrea way to let the cat out of the bag, that kitty wanted to be free 16:27 gmcharlt atz__: wizzyrea: http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/talking-about-a-digital-public-library-of-america/29897 16:27 wizzyrea ooo thanks 17:09 nengard what preference makes it so that when you click on a subject heading or author it does an autority search instead of a subject search 17:31 * wizzyrea pats oleonard 17:31 oleonard :) 17:32 wizzyrea btw, the sound cues are quite ear pleasing 17:32 wizzyrea very melodious 17:32 oleonard The sound cues were not my thing, if that's what you mean 17:32 wizzyrea no 17:33 wizzyrea that's something totally different 17:33 wizzyrea just sayin; 17:33 wizzyrea ' 17:33 oleonard I didn't think my staff would like them but they mostly do. 17:38 * oleonard is thinking about how one might control the volume of the sounds and set it in a cookie 17:41 * cait waves 17:47 oleonard http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/home/889452-264/harpercollins_caps_loans_on_ebook.html.csp 17:48 oleonard Not the kind of audio volume control I was thinking of, but funny: 17:48 oleonard http://www.ironicsans.com/volumething/ 17:56 tcohen anyone with a few seconds to explain the use of link_bibs_to_authorities.pl 17:56 tcohen ?? 17:56 tcohen (is it safe?) 18:01 tcohen ok, i'll read the code 18:03 jcamins_away tcohen: I wouldn't. 18:03 jcamins_away (use it) 18:03 * oleonard hates that there are things in Koha that we shouldn't use. We should take them out. 18:04 jcamins_away Or fix them. 18:04 tcohen LinkBibHeadingsToAuthorities doesn't look bad 18:06 tcohen you mean like removing zebraqueue? 18:06 tcohen :D 18:06 tcohen (zerbaqueue_daemon i mean) 18:07 nengard oleonard did you have an issue after upgrading virtualbox? 18:07 nengard it keeps prompting me to upgrade, but i remember others having issues 18:07 nengard so i've held off 18:07 jcamins_away nengard: my upgrade seemed to work fine. 18:08 nengard good stuff 18:08 jcamins_away But then, my VM is broken half the time anyway, so how would I know? 18:08 nengard hehe 18:08 tcohen nengard: oleonard had to tell virtualbox to forget "saved states" about usb's or something 18:09 tcohen jcamins: is there any reported bug around link_bibs_to... ? 18:10 jcamins_away tcohen: no, because I can't clearly identify any problem with it. It just seems to cause problems. 18:11 jcamins_away Wow. 18:11 jcamins_away It just got *black* out. 18:12 tcohen ok, i'll do some test and report back if I find something 18:12 tcohen have a nice weekend #koha 18:15 fcapo There's bug 5410 :/ 18:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5410 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED, "Right truncation not supported" error when running link_bibs_to_authorities.pl 18:19 oleonard nengard: I had to discard my VM's saved state after upgrading 18:20 nengard i'm not sure what that means - but i'll upgrade and you can tell me :) hehe 18:20 oleonard I would shut down your vm all the way first 18:27 nengard oo it's fancy 18:28 nengard okay how do i clear the saved state - cause i got a usb error 18:28 jcamins_away If you don't use USB, couldn't you just disable it? 18:28 jcamins_away (just guessing) 18:29 oleonard right-click on that VM's entry I think 18:33 nengard jcamins - my mouse is usb 18:34 jcamins_away nengard: VirtualBox cares? 18:34 jcamins_away I have a USB keyboard and mouse, and never noticed it being a problem that I had disabled USB. 18:34 nengard hmmm 18:38 * jcamins_away isn't an expert, though. 18:55 tcohen the usb devices are "passed" directly to the virtual machine to handle them 18:55 tcohen BUT 18:55 tcohen that's not true for input devices 18:56 tcohen as virtualbox does some extra stuff for using them in the host OS 19:46 wizzyrea rhcl: about? 19:47 wizzyrea generally: with envisionware does anybody know if it pulls the PIN From the opac login? 19:47 wizzyrea or somewhere else 19:48 * jcamins_away does not know. 19:48 wizzyrea I honestly cannot think of another field that it would use 19:48 wizzyrea envisionware = SIP, if that triggers an alert for anybody :P 19:49 * jcamins_away knows that libraries are using it successfully with Koha, though. 19:49 wizzyrea the PIN? 19:49 jcamins_away No, Envisionware. 19:49 wizzyrea we use envisionware and it works passably enough 19:49 jcamins_away Sorry. 19:49 wizzyrea :) sok 20:14 rhcl I'm here 20:15 rhcl AFAIK Envisionware sends the login ID and PIN to the ILS server just like most other things. 20:15 rhcl Was that not the question though? 20:16 wizzyrea yep that was the question 20:16 wizzyrea so it's the opac login? 20:16 wizzyrea for user/pass 20:16 wizzyrea pin 20:16 wizzyrea ty for the info rhcl 20:16 rhcl What's the difference between an OPAC login and the regular Koha library card/PIN? 20:17 rhcl We looked at Envisionware for a while, and actually had a couple of personal demos at trade shows. 20:18 rhcl If you are OK with a closed, proprietary system Envisionware looks like it has more polish and is better put together than most other PAC access systems. 20:18 rhcl But I pretty much prefer Libki these days--I have total control over both the server and the clients. 20:19 rhcl Envisionware is one of those systems where you are totally dependent on them, don't open the box or it'll explode. 20:20 rhcl It's also better accessorized than some others--they have integrated copiers, printers, coffee pots, etc. 20:21 rhcl And if I remember right they also have the automated book return sorter thingers. 20:21 wizzyrea I don't really have a say in what they use 20:21 wizzyrea my libraries are buying envisionware 20:21 * jcamins_away giggles at the idea of a coffee pot controlled by SIP. 20:21 wizzyrea tee hee 20:21 rhcl Expensive, but with the "closed system" caveat Envisionware seems to work well. 20:22 * jcamins_away imagines someone coming into the office and going to get a cup of coffee only to be told "too many fines. Please see circulation desk." 20:23 rhcl You know, that's an idea really. These access systems can accept cash via coin and bill machines, and can maintain a credit balance.... 20:24 jcamins_away Or even better "your coffee mug has been recalled. Please return to the circulation desk immediately." 20:24 rhcl so that patrons can print without paying, with the cost deducted from their on-line balance. 20:24 wizzyrea haha 20:24 wizzyrea alright: http://wizzyrea.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/content-middlemen-we-need-your-help/ 20:24 * wizzyrea shamelessly self promotes 20:24 jcamins_away rhcl: it makes sense. I'm just enjoying the image of someone being denied a cup of coffee because they don't return their books. 20:24 rhcl Why couldn't you have a pay coffee machine which SIP accesses an ILS database and deducts 95 cents for money? 20:24 * wizzyrea imagines lending coffee 20:25 * wizzyrea wonders what the return chute would look like 20:25 rhcl Or if it was a simple overdue book, maybe the could get black coffee, but not cream and sugar???? Works for me. 20:26 rhcl Heck, I'll bet Overdrive could figure out a way to lend coffee cups and have them auto-disintegrate after 14 days. 20:28 rhcl But they probably wouldn't work with Linux.... 20:34 jcamins_away Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to tell Zebra to only find matches for two terms in the *same* field? 20:34 * jcamins_away is thinking about relator terms. 20:35 chris_n wizzyrea:LOL 20:35 wizzyrea :) 20:48 jcamins_away Good night, #koha. 20:48 * jcamins_away is really _away, now 20:50 * oleonard has a holiday calendar widget breakthrough 20:53 * wizzyrea cheers for oleonard 20:53 * gmcharlt therefore declares today, 25 February, as Calendar Widget Day 20:54 * oleonard just tried to do a Spotlight search on his Win7 machine 20:56 oleonard Battle of the calendar widgets: http://screencast.com/t/pQMI8Dff2 20:59 wizzyrea purty 20:59 wizzyrea I like the top better in most all ways 21:01 bg yup the top is purty 21:02 gmcharlt agreed 21:03 oleonard That's a fairly plain jQuery UI themed widget, the one I've got in my jQueryUI branch right now (extra large for the holidays page) 21:11 wizzyrea every time rangi writes me a query to look at something, I learn something about mysql. 21:11 wizzyrea I love that. 21:11 wizzyrea thanks rangi :) 21:11 wizzyrea rangi++ 21:13 bg @karma rangi 21:13 huginn bg: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9. 21:13 bg @karma brendan 21:13 huginn bg: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 24 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 24. 21:13 bg @karma bg 21:13 huginn bg: bg has neutral karma. 21:13 bg :) 21:46 bg @wunder 93109 21:46 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 10.6�C (1:51 PM PST on February 25, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Steady). 21:51 snail morning all 22:15 slef hi snail 22:16 * slef is watching NZvAUS highlights. Don't tell him how it finishes. 22:19 slef well that's over 22:44 snail slef: NZvAUS in what sport? urban search and rescue? 22:46 snail oh, cricket. yes, well, that was never going to be much of a pairing...