IRC log for #koha, 2011-02-24

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00:00 mtj of all Koha users and developers."
00:00 mtj fuck you
00:00 moodaepo Have an explanation saying why the hosts file, etc.
00:00 mtj thank you PTFS…  from stopping any non-Koha entity or competitor from acquiring the domains and diverting
00:01 mtj potential future Koha users to other ILS solutions.
00:01 mtj anyway, i get back to work now...
00:01 moodaepo Have a good one.
00:01 moodaepo @wunder 56001
00:01 huginn moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 0.2�C (6:07 PM CST on February 23, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Steady).
00:04 slef rangi: JOOI, how are you sure they actually deploy Koha? AIUI they want to host everyone on their hardware.
00:05 rangi how am i sure you do it?
00:05 rangi or me
00:06 rangi they said they did, ptfs for all their faults have never said they are deployting 3.2.3 and put harley on
00:06 rangi the could have hacked the version numbers
00:07 rangi but they are reporting 3.2.x versions
00:07 rangi they send patches, that apply to master
00:08 rangi 146 of them to date
00:09 rangi they may not be the best company in the world but they ahve at least contributed something, and continue to send and sign off on patches for master
00:10 rangi which ptfs inc have not done in months, and have told customers they cant have the community version
00:10 rangi its harley or llek
00:10 rangi thats it
00:11 rangi so while they may not be perfect, they do at least contribute
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02:00 Brooke_ kia ora
02:00 rangi hi Brooke_
02:02 rangi http://media.nzherald.co.nz/we[…]jpg/20119/qq6.jpg
02:02 Brooke_ did they get the guy out?
02:02 rangi crazy liquefaction
02:02 rangi yep
02:02 Brooke_ looks like it
02:03 rangi that was a road
02:03 Brooke_ clearly
02:03 Brooke_ you can see the asphalt ahead of the bonnet.
02:04 Brooke_ what town is that?
02:04 rangi christchurch
02:04 Brooke_ proper?
02:04 Brooke_ looks like a suburb
02:04 rangi in nz we dont do suburbs the same was as you
02:04 rangi everywhere is a suburb
02:04 Brooke_ heh
02:04 rangi including the cbd
02:05 rangi so christchurch covers a bunch of suburbs
02:06 Brooke_ fascinating
02:07 rangi its starting to all move to recovery phase now ;(
02:08 Brooke_ ugh
02:08 Brooke_ that's always scary
02:09 Brooke_ you never know
02:09 Brooke_ people can survive truly silly things
02:09 rangi yep
02:10 Brooke_ in especial children :)
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02:39 rangi hi pauln
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03:01 pauln hey sorry, every time i log in i get pulled away
03:01 rangi no worries
03:01 pauln couple of quick questions
03:03 rangi fire away
03:04 pauln circ stats - how does it handle changes to item types? do the circ figures move with the item change or are they fixed in time?
03:04 pauln Just wondering with our rental fiction items that change to free fiction after a year
03:04 rangi hmmm good question, id have to look at the report, i suspect it moves
03:05 pauln and - almost always when importing a z39 record to edit an existing record, it changes to add new record and unattaches itself from the original record & items
03:06 rangi but not always, sometimes it doesnt?
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03:07 kmkale Namaskar #koha
03:08 pauln a few times it hasn't, but say 90%
03:08 pauln kia ora kmkale
03:09 kmkale hi pauln
03:10 pauln if the stats do move, then that is a pain
03:10 rangi if it is querying the statistics table they dont
03:10 mtj pauln:  i have worked on a merge-record tool for kapiti which may help you with that problem
03:10 rangi if it is querying the items table they will
03:11 rangi mtj: merge biblio is in 3.2.x
03:11 rangi its more that this shouldnt happen it should replec the record not make a new in that case
03:12 mtj ah, its url is prolly in a different place than the kapiti Koha
03:20 pauln so it shouldn't be happening despite us not being on 3.2.
03:21 rangi nope
03:21 rangi definitely a bug
03:24 pauln ok, so until i nail matt down to go over the sla.....
03:24 pauln can we add mtj's tool? o rwe wait for upgrade
03:24 rangi mtjs tool is for fixing duplicates
03:25 rangi which you have already
03:25 rangi what we want, is stop making duplicates
03:25 rangi if you open a wr, i can take a look in the next day or so
03:25 pauln ahh, i see
03:26 pauln as for stats - we need to record the monthly stats broken down by item types at the time they are taken to get a more accurate picture
03:26 mtj rangi:  my tool merges imported 'reservoir'  bibs with existing bibs
03:27 pauln thats not too big of a deal, just change my schedule
03:27 rangi cool
03:28 rangi mtj: yep, the bug here is editing a record and replacing it with content from z3950 search shouldnt create a new record
03:28 rangi different problem
03:29 mtj yeah, that is different
03:29 pauln do you need an example for the wr?
03:32 rangi if you have one, that would be cool
03:33 pauln ok, will sort that tomorrow
03:33 pauln you guys have any friends or family in chch?
03:33 rangi my grandma and my aunt and uncle
03:34 mtj yeah, ive got lots :/
03:34 rangi all safe, aunt and uncles house is unlivable though
03:34 rangi a bunch of people from catalyst (and many other places) have been working on eq.org.nz
03:34 mtj and lyttenton too
03:34 rangi helps feel like we are doing something
03:34 pauln good to hear aunt & uncle are safe
03:35 mtj all my folk are safe, afaik...
03:35 pauln yeah, true on the helping out
03:35 pauln mtj cool - especially the lyttelton ones
03:38 pauln just got council to agree to 2 new libraries in 3 years yesterday, but a bit hard to really celebrate too much
03:39 mtj yeah… but any other time, congrats
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03:40 mtj that is a nice win
03:40 druthb good evening, #koha.
03:40 rangi yeah thats worth celebrating anyway :)
03:40 rangi specially in the climate of closing libraries
03:40 rangi kudos pauln
03:41 rangi hi druthb
03:41 * kmkale waves at druthb and rangi
03:41 rangi hiya kmkale
03:42 druthb :D
03:42 pauln yep, very happy really
03:42 pauln right, time to head
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06:19 cait morning #koha
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06:36 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
06:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0�C (7:20 AM CET on February 24, 2011). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -21.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
06:36 magnuse ouch
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06:37 kmkale hi cait
06:38 kmkale hi magnus_away
06:38 rangi hi europe
06:39 cait hi rangi, kmkale and an awake early magnuse :)
06:46 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]s-after-the-quake
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07:57 francharb Hi all
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08:01 rangi hi france
08:13 paul_p hi NZ !
08:13 * paul_p just read the thread about NZ quake on koha ML
08:18 rangi yep still busy with http://eq.org.nz/
08:26 paul_p this morning /me working on administrative task. Really hates that (& ingrid is ill since 2 weeks, so I have all his stuff to do :((( )
08:27 rangi :(
08:30 paul_p :((( just recieved a mail from Ingrid saying she'll be away one more ... month :(((((
08:30 * paul_p will have to investigate for a temporary solution...
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09:14 magnuse hi europe and india and nz
09:22 kmkale hey magnuse
09:22 rangi :( toll just went up to 98
09:25 magnuse so sorry to hear that!
09:25 magnuse hi kmkale
09:25 kmkale rangi: :(
09:55 rangi posted the 3.2.4 statistics
10:05 magnuse cool
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10:09 magnuse looks like floss and koha gets a favourable mention (in swedish) on pages 8-11 of the swedish "library magazine": http://www.biblioteksforeninge[…]adet_nr1_2011.pdf - it refers to the Halland project at http://blogg.regionhalland.se/koha/ (also in swedish)
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10:21 kf hi #koha
10:22 magnuse hiya kf
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12:31 semarie Hello
12:32 semarie What is the procedure to report security issue on koha ?
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12:37 magnuse semarie: i would guess the best is to file a bug: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/
12:38 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]orting_Guidelines
12:38 semarie magnuse: bugzilla will publish the issue before correction
12:40 magnuse hm, yeah, nit sure what the alternative is, though... maybe send the Release Manager an e-mail?
12:40 magnuse s/nit/not/
12:40 hdl hi semarie and all
12:41 magnuse hiya hdl
12:44 gmcharlt semarie: yep, send chris an email; if you want to distribute the information a bit more broadly, you can send it to current and past RMs and RMaints, including hdl, myself, paul_p, slef, and chris_n
12:46 * chris_n perks up a the mention of security issues
12:48 hdl semarie: thanks to report
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12:53 jcamins Good morning, #koha
12:54 magnuse hiya jcamins
12:56 tcohen good morning jcamins
13:07 kf hm, does anyone how to add worldcat to z39.50 search in koha? the library asking for it is not a member.
13:07 jcamins kf: join.
13:07 jcamins You have to have a username/password to search Worldcat.
13:08 kf hmpf. ok :)
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13:36 jcamins nengard++ # for saving me the trouble of copying some of the messages from our earlier discussion on koha-devel into Bugzilla
13:36 nengard :)
13:36 nengard figured the notes that we each wrote should have our name on them
13:37 jcamins Yes, that's why I didn't copy them yet.
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13:37 nengard my thinking on that one is that we can't always think like librarians - sometimes we need to think like patrons and only patrons in research libraries know or care about subject headings - the rest just want to find books on that topic
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13:38 jcamins That's true. The problem is that if you go to a seminary and are interested in general introductions to Religion... ;)
13:38 jcamins I like the syspref idea, and I think I see a way to implement it fairly nicely.
13:38 nengard if you're in a seminary library then you're a researcher
13:39 nengard if you're an undergrad or a general member of the public you probably aren't
13:39 nengard yes, sys prefs make sense
13:39 nengard the libary needs to decide
13:44 * jcamins is biased because he worked at a specialized research library, of course.
13:52 nengard I did too, but I drove the other librarians crazy because I always questioned the 'rules' :)
13:52 nengard time for me to head out and do some research of my own
13:52 nengard talk to you all later
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14:19 semarie gmcharlt: I have report via email the issue to current and past RMs and RMaints
14:20 gmcharlt semarie: thanks, got it; will be easy to fix
14:28 kf *sighs* we have a branchcode that starts with a blank
14:28 kf and I wonder why my patron import does complain about unknown branchcode
14:28 jcamins kf: yay! That's the funnest ever. ;)
14:31 kf hmpf
14:31 * kf has to figure out how to repair that now
14:37 * jcamins gives kf a cookie
14:37 jcamins Amd a syspref. :D
14:38 jcamins *And
14:38 kf what a syspref?
14:39 jcamins Well, I just created one, and I'm creating another, so I thought you might want. ;)
14:42 kf hehe
14:42 kf I love sysprefs
14:42 kf I know, not everybody does... but I do
14:49 jcamins Argh!
14:49 jcamins I just broke another VM.
14:49 * druthb hands jcamins the left-handed spanner.
14:52 * jcamins deletes a whole bunch of biblios so that the reindex will be faster.
14:53 * oleonard hopes jcamins isn't working on his library's database ;)
14:56 jcamins oleonard: if I were working on your library's database, I think I'd be entirely gray by the time it finished indexing. :P
14:57 jcamins I've just got an itty bitty laptop here. ;)
14:57 jcamins Huh.
14:58 jcamins Why does rebuild_zebra fail if there's a syntax error in C4/Circulation.pm?
14:59 oleonard Can format-patch create a patch for a group of commits without squashing?
14:59 kf hm I think so
15:00 jcamins oleonard: yeah, just specify a range.
15:00 kf like 0001... 0002....
15:00 jcamins gmcharlt was here earlier. He'd be able to help you specify a range.
15:00 jcamins A mere mortal like myself cannot. ;)
15:00 kf I think you can do something like HEAD~2
15:00 kf for the last 2 commits
15:00 gmcharlt kf: yes
15:00 gmcharlt git format-patch HEAD~2
15:01 gmcharlt git format-patch HEAD^^^
15:01 * kf learned that from druthb yesterday :)
15:01 gmcharlt git format-patch {hash of first commit to start from}
15:01 kf what does the HEAD^^^ do?
15:01 gmcharlt back three commits
15:01 kf ah
15:01 kf thx
15:01 jcamins I accidentally debarred all the patrons in my test database. I wonder how I did that.
15:01 gmcharlt keeping pounding on the ^ key until one is happy
15:02 oleonard gmcharlt: What I mean is to create a single patch from a series of commits
15:02 oleonard ...without squashing them
15:02 gmcharlt oleonard: if you need a patch, not a commit-patch, you can just git-diff
15:03 gmcharlt that will give you something you can apply with git-apply
15:03 gmcharlt if you want to submit it, what you can do is to create the diff, make a temporary topic branch, apply the diff and commit the results
15:03 gmcharlt then format-patch and submit the results
15:04 oleonard Okay thanks. I thought git might have a built-in trick for it.
15:05 chris_n semarie: I just sent along a patch to fix that bug, if you could test and sign-off please
15:10 gmcharlt oleonard: yep, but format-patch is designed around the notion of communicating commits, not diffs
15:11 oleonard I'm not sure, but I think Bug 5808 is a dupe of Bug 5765
15:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5808 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Columna innecesaria en la configuración de mensajería en STAFF
15:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5765 trivial, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, patron messaging form template tests for SMS inconsistently
15:17 gmcharlt oleonard: confirmed, the bugs can be merged
15:22 * jcamins crosses something off his to-do list.
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15:35 jcamins fcapo: I worked up a patch for bug 5811. Once a coworker signs off on it it'll be sent to the list.
15:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5811 normal, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Fines below noissuecharges should not require override
15:35 gmcharlt chris_n++
15:40 fcapo jcamins: Thank you :)
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15:57 * druthb hands kf the Velcro.
15:58 kf thx :)
16:01 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
16:01 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 0.8�C (10:06 AM CST on February 24, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 9 PM CST this evening...
16:01 druthb @wunder 20852
16:01 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Woodley Gardens, Rockville, Maryland is 4.6�C (11:05 AM EST on February 24, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Falling). High wind watch in effect from Friday afternoon through Friday evening...
16:01 kf @wunder Konstanz
16:01 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0�C (5:00 PM CET on February 24, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa (Falling).
16:01 wizzyrea that's nothing to brag about >.<
16:01 wizzyrea light rain my rear , it's snowing out there
16:01 wizzyrea \
16:02 oleonard [\0x08] ?
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16:03 wizzyrea hm, I wonder if restoring all of those tabs I had open is a good idea
16:03 wizzyrea >.>
16:03 wizzyrea haha
16:03 wizzyrea my "recently closed" shows one window in chrome with 41 tabs
16:04 wizzyrea that might be what some consider "excessive"
16:04 druthb uhm...yah.
16:06 * wizzyrea starts opening tabs again
16:06 jcamins Woohoo! Two patches written.
16:07 * wizzyrea highfives jcamins
16:13 fcapo Anybody has been working on Bug5274 ?
16:13 druthb bug 5274
16:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5274 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, CCL prefixes break search limits
16:13 fcapo was gonna say that :P
16:13 jcamins Heh. I guess I missed a few when I was changing my e-mail address.
16:13 jcamins I have not been.
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16:14 fcapo Ok, I'll be looking into it
16:14 * druthb gives huginn a cookie
16:14 jcamins Or a lot.
16:14 jcamins Possibly a lot.
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16:16 druthb kf, do you still have the Velcro?
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16:17 wizzyrea urg, I should stop clicking things >.<
16:18 kf bye all
16:18 wizzyrea my keyboard has been complaining at me re: batteries for days
16:19 jcamins You know, one day someone is going to look at the Koha Bugzilla installation, and come to the conclusion that "Jared Camins-Esakov" was one of the most popular full names of the beginning of the twenty-first century.
16:20 * druthb chuckles.
16:21 wizzyrea hopefully they'll also come to the conclusion that the RM for our project was the most patient person in the world
16:21 jcamins :)
16:22 oleonard If you place a hold with a start date of 2011-02-27 and an end date of 2011-02-25 I wonder what happens?
16:22 wizzyrea O.O
16:22 oleonard In other news: The date pickers on opac-reserve should be linked to prevent overlap ;)
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16:23 wizzyrea :D
16:23 * oleonard just has to figure out if it can be done for an unknown number of pairs
16:26 * wizzyrea doesn't see where you set the start date
16:26 oleonard You have to have AllowHoldDateInFuture turned on
16:26 wizzyrea OH
16:26 wizzyrea duh.
16:26 oleonard Sorry, OPACAllowHoldDateInFuture  if you're in the OPAc
16:29 rhcl wizzyrea: are we really supposed to get 12" of snow? *supposedly* per WX forecast
16:29 wizzyrea !!!!
16:29 wizzyrea maybe you are
16:29 wizzyrea they said 3-6 for us
16:29 * wizzyrea goes to look again
16:29 rhcl 6 today, 12 tonight/tomorrow
16:30 wizzyrea we're getting sleet 1', new snow of an inch (according to weather.gov, for lawrence
16:30 wizzyrea )
16:31 wizzyrea icky weather for the rest of the week though, or at least > 0 chance of it
16:31 wizzyrea http://forecast.weather.gov/sh[…]ter+Storm+Warning
16:31 wizzyrea here's yours
16:32 wizzyrea 3-6 according to NWS
16:32 rhcl yea, that's all I see on accuweather
16:32 druthb Rain, rain, rain for us, starting tonight.
16:32 rhcl where is your physical location?
16:32 wizzyrea Lawrence, KS
16:32 rhcl no, I know that! druthb I mean
16:32 wizzyrea oh oh
16:32 wizzyrea sorry >.>
16:33 wizzyrea here's ours, it's the same: http://forecast.weather.gov/sh[…]ter+Storm+Warning
16:34 jcamins Great, the one day I'll be outside this week, it's supposed to be storming.
16:37 druthb Washington, DC.
16:45 jcamins Where is BibLibre's repository?
16:45 jcamins Found it, never mind.
16:45 paul_p jcamins, git.biblibre.com
16:45 paul_p very hard to find ;-)
16:46 jcamins paul_p: ooh, since you're here, where would I find the code for that pop-up you showed us?
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16:48 paul_p jcamins, 82466cf12687360a6b0f93e176cdc4d2f7d8fee9
16:48 paul_p (I think)
16:48 paul_p otherwise git log opac-detail.tmpl will be your friend ;-)
16:49 paul_p ok, time to go bac khome for me.
16:49 paul_p happy hacking everybody !
16:49 paul_p see you tomorrow (my) morning
16:49 cait bye paul_p
16:57 hdl anyone going in for a deduping script for authorities ?
16:58 jcamins hdl: I think that's an awesome idea, and would love to see it.
16:58 jcamins But, no.
17:00 cait http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/
17:00 * cait wonders what is special about a Stiftung in Germany
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17:10 cait ok, there is in fact a page for that - http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/why
17:10 cait just ignore me :)
17:10 fcapo hum... The bug 5274 I was looking at seems to be a duplicate of bug 4852 ... Looks like a fix is already on the way...
17:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5274 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, CCL prefixes break search limits
17:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4852 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Facets doesn't work with direct CCL queries
17:15 hdl jcamins: i will send the script on koha-devel lists
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17:20 jcamins Any thoughts on where the syspref for bug 5810 should go?
17:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5810 enhancement, P5, ---, jcamins, NEW, Subject tracings should search complete subfields
17:21 hdl OPAC or catalogue
17:22 jcamins hdl: do I need two sysprefs, one for OPAC and one for the Staff Client?
17:23 hdl jcamins: i would go in for only one syspref
17:23 jcamins Woohoo!
17:23 hdl too many prefs kill the prefs
17:25 jcamins I think I'll put it in OPAC. It's easy enough to move it, if someone wants it somewhere else, I think.
17:25 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
17:29 jcamins Okay, under Appearance?
17:31 jcamins It doesn't really make sense there.
17:31 jcamins What about under Searching->Features? That seems to me slightly more logical.
17:39 hdl jcamins: go go go
17:46 * jcamins discovers, belatedly, that he doesn't actually have test data for this.
17:50 wizzyrea I appreciate the fact that kohacommunity.org no longer points to the websitethatshallnotbenamed.
17:50 jcamins Good!
17:52 wizzyrea it's to an empty page, but at least it's not pointing people to the wrong website anymore
17:53 oleonard Why go to the trouble of changing if not to point it to the right place? What a bunch of jerks.
17:55 rhcl somebody I know d* near registered some variants of *ptfs* and was ready to point them to Sirsi.
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17:56 rhcl I talked him out of it.
17:56 rangi rhcl: cool, no need to stoop to their level
17:57 rangi just show people the perceptions survey
17:57 rangi and the ils turnover
17:57 rangi thats the real answer to this problem
17:57 wizzyrea mm hmm
17:58 rhcl rangi: yea, I told him slef and rangi would both disapprove
18:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Security Bugfix: Bug 1953 Adding Placeholders to SQL To Avoid Potential Injection... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cce35654fc8d45a01>
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18:33 jcamins My cat has claimed my djelaba as a bed.
18:34 cait djelaba?
18:35 jcamins Moroccan robe.
18:35 jcamins Two 'l's, apparently.
18:36 jcamins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djellaba
18:37 jcamins So I am very cold.
18:40 gmcharlt scoot in under robe and cat and get twice as warm?
18:41 jcamins cait: cat + djelaba: http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net[…]854_2089192_n.jpg
18:41 gmcharlt awww
18:42 cait aww :)
18:42 jcamins gmcharlt: that would be hard, since he first pushed the djelaba into a heap for maximum comfort.
18:42 cait myshkin?
18:42 jcamins Yup.
18:42 cait he is so cute
18:42 jcamins Thanks. :)
18:46 jcamins He particularly likes natural fibers. Lucky for him, we're increasingly using natural fibers instead of acrylics.
18:47 jcamins (and naturally by "we" I mean "Shari"- I still have an acrylic cardigan to finish)
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18:57 hudsonbot Chris Nighswonger: Security Bugfix: Bug 1953 Adding Placeholders to SQL To Avoid Potential Injection Attacks
18:58 rangi Stability is due to db upgrade
18:59 rangi Need to upgrade koha on jenkins
18:59 rangi Will do when I get a chance
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19:12 rhcl has anyone ever loaded any open textbooks into a Koha db?
19:12 rhcl http://www.opentextbook.org/repository/
19:13 jcamins rhcl: I don't know of anyone, but if you create MARC records for them, you should share them with the world. :)
19:14 rhcl wouldn't it be cool if Koha could hold the marc record, and show the info in the OPAC, but pull directly from their svn repo?
19:14 jcamins rhcl: you could put an 856$u linking into whatever web-accessible system you wanted.
19:15 rhcl If I was a cataloger I might give it a shot.
19:16 rangi Ask thomas krichel
19:16 rhcl Actually, I sometimes wonder if I couldn't cookbook a real basic marc record for some of the things I'd like to load
19:16 jcamins It wouldn't be too hard to write a Perl script that did nothing put pull the SVN repository and process the LaTeX.
19:16 jcamins rhcl: you could. Easy peasy. :)
19:16 rangi To make his students do it
19:22 jcamins Ooh, found a bug!
19:23 jcamins If you have a space (%20) at the end of your subject tracing, things get...
19:23 jcamins not nice.
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19:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Security Bugfix: Bug 1953 Adding Placeholders to SQL To Avoid Potential Injection... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]767a6a486d8c2c348> / 2742: Wrong language name in the preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7bda60debfe7e1b5f> / Partial fix for Bug 5745, Overdues with fines report not showing titles <http
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19:46 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5769 - notice tab disappearing on edit patron
19:46 hudsonbot * Paul Poulain: Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers
19:46 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Partial fix for Bug 5745, Overdues with fines report not showing titles
19:46 hudsonbot * marcel@libdevelop.rijksmuseum.nl: 2742: Wrong language name in the preferences
19:46 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Security Bugfix: Bug 1953 Adding Placeholders to SQL To Avoid Potential Injection Attacks
19:59 wizzyrea Bug or intentional: tags are ordered with ALL CAPS tags first, regardless of alphabetization
20:01 oleonard Bug
20:04 wizzyrea k i will file it
20:06 wizzyrea bug 5812
20:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5812 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Tag Cloud - capitalized words come before lower-case words
20:06 oleonard Oh wait, it's a feature: People who shout their tags should be heard over those who simply speak them
20:08 wizzyrea :)
20:12 oleonard nengard++ # for signoffs
20:12 rangi /ws 42
20:12 rangi gah
20:12 wizzyrea hey at least it wasn't your password.
20:13 wizzyrea and on the bright side, it's the answer to life, the universe, and everything
20:13 wizzyrea we can all go home now!
20:13 * jcamins gets up happily, then sits down again realizing he has nowhere to go.
20:13 jcamins :D
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20:15 oleonard I put a system prefs search box in my menu bar because I was sick of having to click through to it:
20:15 oleonard $(document).ready(function(){ $("#toplevelmenu").append("<li><form method=\"post\" action=\"/cgi-bin/koha/adm​in/preferences.pl\"><input type=\"hidden\" value=\"search\" name=\"op\"><input type=\"text\" value=\"\" name=\"searchfield\" style=\"font-size: 90%;\"> <input type=\"submit\" value=\"Search\" class=\"submit\" style=\"font-size: 70%; padding:0; \" name=\"ok\"></form></li>"); });
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20:22 wizzyrea ha, clever :)
20:22 wizzyrea now do it only when a superlibrarian is logged in ;) (I tease(
20:22 wizzyrea )
20:23 oleonard Just for your very special dev machine, sorry :)
20:23 wizzyrea :)
20:24 * oleonard pets his very special dev machine
20:24 jcamins wizzyrea: I bet there's a plugin for Chrome that would enable you to inject that from your local machine.
20:24 wizzyrea ooo
20:25 jcamins wizzyrea: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]-script-on-chrome
20:26 jcamins wizzyrea: sorry, I'm complicating things: http://www.mychromeaddons.com/[…]onkey-for-chrome/
20:26 wizzyrea oooh
20:26 wizzyrea ty that's handy
20:28 jcamins https://chrome.google.com/exte[…]gagoehgbdbk?hl=en
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20:28 wizzyrea that link looks so legit, I think I'll click it
20:28 jcamins https://chrome.google.com/exte[…]lndfgagkcim?hl=en
20:28 wizzyrea umno
20:28 wizzyrea :)
20:29 jcamins :)
20:29 wizzyrea wow, whoever came up with that scheme for URLs is not thinking of their users
20:29 jcamins What, you mean Google?
20:29 wizzyrea I KNO RITE
20:30 oleonard But I like being able to just type hiadkoalmmkgennhcldmdlndfgagkcim when I'm looking for the hiadkoalmmkgennhcldmdlndfgagkcim extension
20:31 oleonard Maybe they got the idea from Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T[…]iwhenuakitanatahu
20:32 wizzyrea but that's REAL
20:32 wizzyrea :)
20:32 wizzyrea The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one.
20:32 oleonard https://chrome.google.com/exte[…]akitanatahu?hl=en
20:32 wizzyrea sounds like a tough guy
20:33 oleonard I so wanted that link to work.
20:33 wizzyrea but with a creamy center.
20:33 wizzyrea heheheheh
20:35 gmcharlt oleonard: it's a feature for expert Git users
20:35 gmcharlt once you know how to memories arbitrary commit hashes, the extension IDs are a snap
20:35 jcamins Heh.
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20:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.05.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]55a3ee8a0af0b54af> / Release Notes for 3.02.05.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4485d48af001f7434>
20:54 oleonard paul_p: How did Bug 5634 manifest itself? On what pages?
20:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5634 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, ordering branches case independant
20:56 paul_p oleonard, before this patch, is you have branch A, BRANCH B, branch C, the list was displayed branch A / branch C / BRANCH B. That's uneasy to read when you have 57 branches (like aix Marseille universities=
20:56 paul_p )
20:56 oleonard paul_p: In any branch list, or just certain ones?
20:57 paul_p in any branch, if you have lc & uc mixed. all lc are before uc. 2nd example branches are a b C D e F G, they are displayed a b e C D G !
20:58 paul_p (well... a b e C D F G)
20:58 paul_p it does not occur in every branch list, as we don't always use this sub (and obviously, it should...)
20:59 oleonard I thought you might know offhand of a page which uses it
21:01 * oleonard finds an example on the patron search page
21:02 jcamins Does anyone know in what instances a user-supplied LIMIT breaks report pagination?
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21:03 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.02.05.000
21:03 hudsonbot * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.05.000
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21:15 cait jcamins: no - but I thin it's not only for user supplied limits
21:15 cait jcamins: I never use limit and I have some reports paginating and others not :(
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21:21 jcamins cait: ugh. That's too bad.
21:22 cait hm, I should check that tomorrow in our updated database
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21:23 jcamins cait: I think you are right.
21:25 cait hmpf.
21:25 cait time to sleep - good night all!
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21:36 chris_n yoyo inet gmcharlt?
21:37 gmcharlt chris_n: linode issues, I think
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21:57 wizzyrea can anyone explain how this might happen (note the empty lines): http://screencast.com/t/wNr7ESW1f
21:58 wizzyrea history anonymization?
21:58 wizzyrea and how could an item be empty, but still checked out
21:59 rhcl whitespace increases readership
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22:25 rhcl I think something at the end of the previous line--too many blank spaces? A "\n" (?) is creating a blank line.
22:28 wizzyrea no, I don't think so
22:29 wizzyrea that item that says checked out
22:29 wizzyrea is actually checked out, but completely blank: no bib #, no item #
22:29 mtj wizzy, i have seen this one too...
22:30 mtj the short answer is… old_issues rows that dont correctly match an item or borr record
22:31 wizzyrea ooo
22:31 wizzyrea db corruption?
22:31 * eythian prepares packages for the security fix
22:31 wizzyrea eythian++
22:32 mtj i made a small code-tweak to skip those blank/unmatched lines, for kapiti
22:32 wizzyrea the real problem it's causing
22:32 wizzyrea is that I have an overdue item on this patron's account
22:32 wizzyrea that I can't check in
22:34 wizzyrea I found it odd that there would be so many empty rows
22:34 mtj ah, right - yeah i see that :/
22:34 wizzyrea any way to find out what it was?
22:34 wizzyrea old_issues? (seems unlikely, it would be reflected on this list)
22:35 wizzyrea s/would/should
22:35 wizzyrea clearly it's not :P
22:35 mtj i would use a sth->trace(3);
22:36 mtj one tick, i look….
22:36 rangi you have sql access
22:36 rangi ?
22:36 wizzyrea I do
22:37 rangi select * from old_issues where borrowernumber = blah and itemnumber not in (select itemnumber from items);
22:37 wizzyrea ooo
22:37 wizzyrea trying that
22:37 rangi will get you any old_issues attached to missing borrower
22:37 rangi sorry item
22:38 rangi and change it for borrower
22:38 wahanui rangi: that doesn't look right
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22:38 rangi then you can check the delitems table
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22:44 mtj wizzyrea: oops, net is a little bouncy here
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23:06 mtj back...
23:09 mtj wizzyrea:  you should also use that sql on the issues tables too, as the problem row says 'checked out'
23:10 mtj there looks to be an issue row for that borrower, but with no matching item record
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23:29 * jcamins remembers abruptly why he hasn't been cooking these past few days, and goes looking for less-dish-heavy foods.
23:30 * jcamins determines that sweet potato gnocchi are the way to go, and heads out to buy some sweet potatoes.
23:30 jcamins Good night, #koha
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23:44 eythian packages should be all updated now, for anyone who's interested.
23:44 hdl thx eythian
23:45 rangi thanks eythian
23:46 mtj yep, cheers eythian :)
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