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bencahill |
anyone still here? if so, how do due dates (for checked out items) work? I can't find anything about setting the default time (from now) till due (e.g. 2 weeks)... |
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mtj |
bencahill: its a circ rule |
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mtj |
loan-period, etc |
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mtj |
based on itemtype |
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mtj |
http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]/koha/mainpage.pl › http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080[…]min/admin-home.pl › Circulation and Fine Rules |
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Namaskar #koha |
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bencahill |
mtj: thanks, I've got it now :) |
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kmkale |
I have set up a trial install of "OPEN CONFERENCE SYSTEMS" ( http://pkp.sfu.ca/ocs/) at http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/ Please have a look and let me have your thoughts on its usefulness for us.. |
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kmkale |
bbl |
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* druthb |
waves to her friends in #koha |
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* mtj |
waves back to druthb |
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druthb |
hi, mtj. :) |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi rangi |
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rangi |
eythian: you in at work still or at home now? |
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cait |
German news says 75 dead now :( |
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rangi |
yes, those are the confirmed ones |
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rangi |
300 missing still |
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rangi |
100 approx in one building, that they are saying is unsurvivable |
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rangi |
im hoping they are wrong |
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cait |
me too |
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cait |
I see it on stuff.co.nz - ctv building |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-the-earth-roared |
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francharb |
hello #koha |
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rangi |
hi francharb |
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francharb |
hi rangi! |
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hdl |
hi rangi |
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hi #koha |
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kf1 |
nengard++ # thx for sign-off |
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t |
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kf |
morning paul |
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paul_p |
hello kf & al |
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rangi |
hi kf |
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paul_p |
'morning rangi. Is everything OK with all of your family ? |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
busy helping people with eq.org.nz wont be doing any koha stuff until tomorrow |
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* paul_p |
was not expecting anything for the whole week, so if you work again tomorrow it will be a good surprise for me ;-) |
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rangi |
:) |
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kf |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya kf |
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* magnuse |
thinks this looks good http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/index.php/k/k11 |
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kf |
kmkale++ |
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magnuse |
kmkale++ # agreed! |
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paul_p |
kmkale++ (although it's really slow from here atm) |
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magnuse |
the speed seems to be ok from here... |
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kf |
hi kmkale_a :) |
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kf |
@karma kmkale |
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huginn |
kf: Karma for "kmkale" has been increased 17 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 17. |
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kmkale |
hi kf |
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kmkale |
wow. being away helps in karma :) |
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kf |
being busy for kohacon helps too :) |
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kmkale |
hehe. yes working on something you really like is great. |
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kf |
true :) |
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magnuse |
so true |
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* kmkale |
cant figure out why the title image wont come above the header in OCS as its supposed to :( |
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kf |
hm, some git tips for me? I want to backport a bigger feature with lots of patches to 3.2.2 |
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kf |
it was written for head a while ago, so should not be too bad |
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* kmkale |
is scared of all things git |
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* kf |
loves git |
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kf |
but have still to learn a lot |
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magnuse |
i would guess you somehow turn the patches into a branch and then rebase that on 3.2.x, but i'm not sure how you would actually do it... |
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* magnuse |
loves git too |
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kf |
hm not sure that can work |
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kf |
because it downwards |
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kf |
perhaps cherry-picking? |
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magnuse |
maybe http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]-cherry-pick.html |
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kf |
thx :) |
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kf |
cherry-pick++ |
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tcohen |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
hi tcohen |
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* kf |
waves |
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marcelr |
nengard? thanks for 5782; any patch for a better text is welcome |
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nengard |
no prob! |
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tcohen |
hi, who fills import_* tables? are they safe to clean? |
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tcohen |
s/who/what koha use case/ |
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jcamins_away |
nick jcamins |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
git question |
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kf |
I have cherry picked a lot of patches into my 3.2.2 installation - now i want to create one big patch from them |
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nengard |
i have an authorities question: I have a new koha install and am cataloging my personal collection. This is the first time I've cataloged a real collection so I never noticed this before. I have BiblioAddsAuthorities set to 'allow' so what's happening is it's adding an authority for every book - even if the author exists already. |
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nengard |
I tried to select an authority instead, but it wouldn't let me do that |
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nengard |
Is this the expected behavior? |
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druthb |
kf: git rebase --i would be the tool you need. |
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nengard |
morning jcamins |
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kf |
rebase against what? |
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druthb |
if you had ten patches, use git rebase --i HEAD~10, then pic the oldest one, and squash the rest. |
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kf |
which branch is HEAD in this statement? |
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kf |
the parent branch? |
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druthb |
the working branch. |
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kf |
ah |
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jcamins |
nengard: I always used BiblioAddsAuthorities + selected auths (when they already existed) without any problem. |
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kf |
druthb++ |
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kf |
:) |
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druthb |
thankee. |
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nengard |
jcamins was that in older versions maybe? |
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jcamins |
nengard: Possibly. |
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kf |
you even guessed the right number :) |
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nengard |
And was it on add and edit - or just adding a bib record |
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nengard |
I tried to change the authority when editing on most of these once I realized what was happening so i'm wondering if it's an edit bug |
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jcamins |
I'm on 3.3.0.003. |
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nengard |
hmmmm |
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nengard |
not that old than |
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jcamins |
No, it would have to be a new bug. |
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nengard |
I'm on 3.03.00.019 |
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nengard |
K - let me do a bit more testing before I report anything |
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kf |
druthb## |
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kf |
druthb++ |
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* druthb |
blushes. |
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nengard |
jcamins (and all) looks like a bug to me, i just tried to select an authority on 4 books and it did not take after I saved (and I did reindex the authorities) |
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kf |
thx a lot :) |
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jcamins |
I will not be updating today, then. |
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jcamins |
;) |
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jcamins |
(not that I was planning on doing so, but now I definitely won't) |
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tcohen |
is there anyone that can sign-off patch for Bug 4903 around? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4903 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, OAI doesn't work out of the box - XSL path |
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* oleonard |
seems to have busted his VirtualBox VM by upgrading |
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tcohen |
oleonard: usb problems in VB 4? |
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oleonard |
Yup |
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nengard |
bug 5803 submitted |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5803 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, editing records not changing authority |
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tcohen |
oleonard: "Extension pack" |
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oleonard |
Yeah, but now I'm getting "Failed to open a session. pdm#1: Device 'usb-ehci'/0 not found in the saved state" |
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tcohen |
oh |
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oleonard |
The only suggestion I've found so far is "discard the saved state" |
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oleonard |
http://forums.virtualbox.org/v[…]c.php?f=6&t=37978 |
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oleonard |
I guess it hasn't been that long since I restarted it, I could do that... |
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tcohen |
i guess that would not be a problem |
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oleonard |
tcohen: VM back up and running. How does one test 4903? |
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tcohen |
oleonard: good question, i've only used PKP Harvester |
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tcohen |
i'm looking for a command line tool to tell you |
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tcohen |
oleonard: i cuoldn't find a tool like yaz-client for OAI |
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tcohen |
but you could access your testing koha |
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tcohen |
through cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl |
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tcohen |
and see the result |
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tcohen |
in a standard install (not a dev one) you'll get an XSLT path error message in the logs |
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tcohen |
with the patch, you wont |
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* oleonard |
has a dev install |
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tcohen |
the patch is really simple. thats why I insist |
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tcohen |
instead of using a dev-install-only-wortking path I replace for 'intrahtdocs' |
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tcohen |
so it works on every install type |
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tcohen |
I have it in production in 30 kohas... |
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oleonard |
Sorry tcohen, all I can do is confirm that it works in a dev install. |
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tcohen |
thanks oleonard, hopefully someone with a standard install will test it ... |
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tcohen |
it's a pity that a so-trivial patch takes so much time |
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* oleonard |
feels the same about some of his own patches |
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wizzyrea |
doh missed ruth >.< |
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nengard |
she's off training |
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wizzyrea |
ya, that's what I understood |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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marcelr |
kf? have a question on 5701 and the 880 fields.. |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: have you experienced any weirdness with adjusting pickup locations in 3.2.x? (or 3.3, for that matter) |
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oleonard |
Yes, in that we never do it because we're afraid it's broken. |
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wizzyrea |
AHA |
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wizzyrea |
ok |
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kf |
marcelr: hi |
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wahanui |
niihau, kf |
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marcelr |
hi katrin just closing 5701 with remark |
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jcamins |
wahanui: hi |
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wahanui |
privet, jcamins |
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jcamins |
wahanui: privet |
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wahanui |
jcamins: what? |
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jcamins |
:( |
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kf |
I see it |
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kf |
the code is from my coworker, so I will have to look at it |
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marcelr |
kf: still have your question about volumes and sets |
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kf |
but it displays labels in some cases? |
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marcelr |
not foor authors |
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kf |
I am working on backporting that to 3.2.2 for our customers right now |
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kf |
marcelr: yeah, i think it woudl need some changes to make it work for authors |
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kf |
are you working on a patch for opac? |
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marcelr |
not yet |
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kf |
ok |
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marcelr |
and the sets? |
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kf |
I can try to fix it myself - will have to study the code first |
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kf |
the sets? |
| 14:50 |
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kf |
do you have the bug number at hand? |
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marcelr |
kf: I still see one one bigger problem: A link downward from the set record to the volumes – 001 > $w. Or any link that requires a search in the Record-control-number index (rcn). |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
we have links to the volumes in the set record |
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marcelr |
but did not have to do with author stuff |
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kf |
if you have a (Orccode)number in $w in the volumes those links are problematic I think |
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kf |
I wanted to do some more tests but remember zebra was not happy about parenthesis |
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kf |
no |
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marcelr |
still had some patch about parsing org code |
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kf |
yep, talking about that one |
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marcelr |
it just removes the orgcode and pars |
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kf |
sorry, I have to look at it again |
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kf |
what about the index? |
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kf |
the index will have the marcorgcode and parenthesis indexed? |
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marcelr |
do yo mean zebra |
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kf |
yes |
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marcelr |
yes it is indexed only removed when displau |
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kf |
I think your solution works for $w > 001 links, but not sure about 001 > $w links |
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kf |
001 is only the number, because the org code is in 003 - I see no problem there |
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marcelr |
ok |
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kf |
I see a problem with 001 > $w |
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marcelr |
could you open new bug? |
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kf |
I can't promise right now |
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kf |
I have a lot on the table this week :( it's been a bit crazy |
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marcelr |
well we could check later |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
I will try to write something on the bug this week |
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kf |
wanted to do some tests with zebra |
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marcelr |
ok, please see 5622 and 5662/3 too for the control nos |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
thx marcelr |
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marcelr |
the same |
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kf |
I have a file with test records I could send you - that shows the various links |
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marcelr |
ok, but can't see staff side |
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kf |
hm? |
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marcelr |
only links to opac, if you mean that |
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kf |
ah, I was talking about a file with marc records |
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marcelr |
ok, would be helpful to see them |
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kf |
that you could import and take a look at the relationships |
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kf |
can you pm me your email address? |
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marcelr |
will reply on your last mail |
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kf |
thx |
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druthb |
NateC++ |
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NateC |
why the pluses?! |
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jcamins |
druthb: hmm, I was thinking NateC+-, myself. :P |
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* druthb |
points at the last email that NateC sent to the team. |
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jcamins |
spreading_the_gospel_of_koha++ making_me_work_harder-- |
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* marcelr |
Says: Ignore this test |
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nengard |
hello all, i thought i reported a bug about the marc view not showing when you click the 'marc' tab in the staff client ... but i can't find it ... did the fix get pushed? |
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jcamins |
nengard: I think that was one of the variable renaming things that sekjal fixed. |
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nengard |
thanks jcamins |
| 15:28 |
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marcelr |
detail view is back |
| 15:28 |
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nengard |
sekjal is the one who just reported it as a problem :) hehe |
| 15:28 |
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marcelr |
owen fixed it |
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jcamins |
Oh, just fixed. |
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* oleonard |
waves |
| 15:31 |
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kf |
hmpf |
| 15:31 |
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kf |
the translation script refuses to work on my 3.2.2 dev :( |
| 15:34 |
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nengard |
thanks oleonard! |
| 15:34 |
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nengard |
:) |
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* oleonard |
is wishing for role-based permissions as he updates 40 staff members |
| 15:37 |
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nengard |
:( |
| 15:37 |
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nengard |
Agreed!! |
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* wizzyrea |
had to change 99 staff accounts about a month ago |
| 15:40 |
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wizzyrea |
it would be easier to codify the permissions and do it through the database :P |
| 15:40 |
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wizzyrea |
hm. I recognize that sentence probably made no sense to anybody but her. |
| 15:40 |
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wizzyrea |
me |
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wizzyrea |
lord. |
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* wizzyrea |
is quiet now. |
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* kf |
sends wizzyrea some cookies |
| 15:42 |
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wizzyrea |
thanks :D |
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* jcamins |
recalls the plight of his late sourdough starter and weeps |
| 15:43 |
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jcamins |
Cut down in the prime of its life, it was. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: I'll bet the government was forced to ship it to the North Pole wasn't it? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: they threatened to. |
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jcamins |
I pointed out it wasn't necessary, since it's cold enough here that its progress toward sentience is likely to be retarded. |
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* druthb |
perks. "Late sourdough starter?" |
| 15:52 |
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jcamins |
druthb: yes, it is an ex starter. :( |
| 15:52 |
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druthb |
awww. |
| 15:53 |
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jcamins |
It was doing really well for a while, then it turned blue. |
| 15:53 |
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druthb |
hm. |
| 15:53 |
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jcamins |
(bad sign) |
| 15:53 |
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druthb |
some kinda foreign cooties got in there? |
| 15:54 |
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jcamins |
I'm thinking of just buying a stronger live starter from King Arthur Flour, to give it a better chance. |
| 15:54 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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wizzyrea |
cooties, heh |
| 16:01 |
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fcapo |
Hello, when doing searches with a huge number of results ($b for example), I sometimes get "No results found!" even if the search should have returned results. |
| 16:01 |
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fcapo |
Reloading the page then makes the search reasults appear correctly... Anybody else got that problem? |
| 16:01 |
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wizzyrea |
I've seen that once |
| 16:02 |
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wizzyrea |
but it wasn't koha proper. |
| 16:02 |
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fcapo |
I tried reloading the page constantly with CTRL-SHIFT-R and I get a "No results found" like once every 40 reloads. |
| 16:03 |
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fcapo |
It seems completely random :/ |
| 16:03 |
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wizzyrea |
I wonder if you happened to get it while your zebraqueue was running? |
| 16:03 |
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wizzyrea |
that might not be the right word |
| 16:03 |
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fcapo |
I also tried deactivating any reindexing, it still did it. |
| 16:03 |
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wizzyrea |
that blows that theory ;) |
| 16:04 |
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fcapo |
Yep, I was hoping it would be that, at least I would have known what was causing the problem... |
| 16:12 |
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fcapo |
Anyways, that's a hard to reproduce minor annoyance :/ Was just hoping somebody had a solution for it. Thanks for the feedback. |
| 16:12 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I saw that one time |
| 16:12 |
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wizzyrea |
where it said "no results found" and searching again made them come up |
| 16:13 |
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fcapo |
Happy to know I'm not the only one who noticed that :P |
| 16:13 |
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wizzyrea |
emphasis on "one time" -- as in, a single time :) |
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* wizzyrea |
is perhaps caught up in the missing verbal cue that goes with the phrase "one time" |
| 16:20 |
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jcamins |
We have a library reporting that they have to override checkouts if there are any fines at all. |
| 16:20 |
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jcamins |
Even if the fines are less than noissuecharge. |
| 16:20 |
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wizzyrea |
O.O |
| 16:21 |
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jcamins |
I'm investigating, and it looks to me like noissuecharge is summarily ignored if IssuingInProcess is set to false. |
| 16:22 |
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jcamins |
Does anyone have checkouts working with IssuingInProcess set to false? |
| 16:26 |
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slef |
yengh. I keep forgetting #koha has moved and my client gets annoyed if I try to connect to a dead proxy. |
| 16:27 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: You mean if IssuingInProcess is false checkouts are blocked even for those under the noissuecharge limit? |
| 16:27 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 16:27 |
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slef |
@seen nengard |
| 16:27 |
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huginn |
slef: nengard was last seen in #koha 50 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <nengard> Agreed!! |
| 16:27 |
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jcamins |
At least, that's what my perusal of the code suggests. |
| 16:27 |
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slef |
nengard: does/should the manual mention 040$c when adding records? |
| 16:28 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Checkouts blocked from the get-go, or after you scan something? |
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* oleonard |
sees an example in his live system where a patron is not blocked from checkout even with fines |
| 16:28 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I scan something and it pops up a message asking "Please Confirm Checkout" |
| 16:29 |
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jcamins |
And you have IssuingInProcess set to "Don't prevent"? |
| 16:33 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: and it's mad about fines? |
| 16:33 |
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oleonard |
I confirm your observations jcamins, and yes to "Don't prevent" |
| 16:34 |
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wizzyrea |
to recreate this, you need a patron who has a fine, but less than the threshold, correct? |
| 16:34 |
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oleonard |
Is IssuingInProcess specifically designed to check rental charges? |
| 16:34 |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
| 16:34 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: that's correct. |
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wizzyrea |
k |
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oleonard |
Yes wizzyrea, and you won't see the warning until you try to check something out to them |
| 16:34 |
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wizzyrea |
k |
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* wizzyrea |
is checking too |
| 16:35 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, I see that too jcamins |
| 16:36 |
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jcamins |
Okay, this blows a couple of holes in my theory: when I change IssuingInProcess to "Prevent," it still complains. |
| 16:36 |
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wizzyrea |
with IssuingInProcess set to "don't prevent" it asks me to confirm checkout for a patron whose fine is less than the threshold |
| 16:37 |
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* wizzyrea |
has an idea |
| 16:37 |
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wizzyrea |
nope, it's not that |
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* wizzyrea |
thought it might have something to do with the format of the amount in the syspref |
| 16:37 |
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* jcamins |
thought that too. |
| 16:38 |
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nengard |
slef, how so? it's in the cataloging guide |
| 16:39 |
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nengard |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x8399#AEN8402 |
| 16:41 |
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jcamins |
Okay, I managed to fix it, but I can't begin to imagine what the reasoning behind the way the code stands now is. |
| 16:41 |
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* wizzyrea |
waits with bated breath |
| 16:41 |
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slef |
nengard: that talks of OCLC codes which only apply to some libraries. Could it be in http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=c8046#AEN8054 maybe |
| 16:42 |
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jcamins |
It does exactly what I said. If IssuingInProcess is set to "Don't prevent," it doesn't check whether it should complain or not. |
| 16:42 |
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jcamins |
It just does. |
| 16:42 |
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jcamins |
(it just does complain) |
| 16:42 |
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wizzyrea |
right :) |
| 16:43 |
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jcamins |
Wait... |
| 16:43 |
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jcamins |
The plot thickens. |
| 16:44 |
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pastebot0 |
"jcamins" at 208.120.0.116 pasted "# DEBTS my ($amount) = C4::Mem" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/154 |
| 16:44 |
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nengard |
slef, i'm a bit confused (granted I didn't read back to see what you're talking about yet) Why would I want to talk about OCLC at all in that section? Wouldn't adding that it's an OCLC specific code to the cataloging guide be enough? |
| 16:45 |
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jcamins |
It used to be the case that one could not override fines. |
| 16:45 |
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slef |
nengard: the cataloguing guide talks about OCLC, but other libraries need to complete 040$c in common Koha setups before they can Save. |
| 16:46 |
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jcamins |
Rather, one could not override fines greater than noissuecharges. |
| 16:46 |
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jcamins |
Does anyone have an older server they can test on? |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
how old = older |
| 16:47 |
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jcamins |
I don't know, prior to 3.3.0.16. |
| 16:47 |
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jcamins |
Oh, I have a 3.2 install. |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
I have one that's ... yes, I think so |
| 16:47 |
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wizzyrea |
it's 3.3 but prior to 16 I think |
| 16:48 |
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wizzyrea |
let me check |
| 16:49 |
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wizzyrea |
13 is this one |
| 16:49 |
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nengard |
slef is that a framework problem? or does Koha really require it? |
| 16:49 |
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nengard |
I would argue it shouldn't be required in default Koha |
| 16:49 |
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jcamins |
nengard: I think it's required by MARC21. |
| 16:49 |
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nengard |
and if the library is an OCLC library they should make it required |
| 16:50 |
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nengard |
Hmmm |
| 16:51 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: i see it in 13 as well |
| 16:51 |
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slef |
nengard: Probably a framework choice; it's in the frameworks supplied with Koha; lots of new-to-MARC librarians start with those; maybe we should remove the requirement in the supplied frameworks? |
| 16:52 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: hm. I'll see if it's in 3.2.something. |
| 16:52 |
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wizzyrea |
git blame might tell you something |
| 16:52 |
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nengard |
slef, that's what I'm thinking |
| 16:52 |
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wizzyrea |
about when it was changed |
| 16:52 |
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wizzyrea |
when/if |
| 16:52 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: unfortunately, it tells me it was changed 3 years ago. |
| 16:52 |
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wizzyrea |
d'oh |
| 16:52 |
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nengard |
jcamins not all libraries on Koha are using MARC21 - or even any flavor of MARC - it should be up to the library to mark the fields required that they want required |
| 16:53 |
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nengard |
and the frameworks in Koha should only have Koha necessary fields required |
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jcamins |
nengard: I know, but we do call them MARC21 frameworks. |
| 16:53 |
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slef |
nengard: if so, I'll do that, I think I have some resources for Koha-community work again now (yay - finally recovered) and it'll help me get back into patch-submitting. |
| 16:53 |
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nengard |
maybe we need to change that too :) since all cataloging is dependent on them they shouldn't be so marc21 specific |
| 16:53 |
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nengard |
slef it might be a touchy change to make |
| 16:54 |
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nengard |
but I think it should be made - so you have my vote |
| 16:55 |
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* wizzyrea |
kicks herself for not thinking to register kohacommunity.org |
| 16:56 |
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jcamins |
3.2.something also has this problem. |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
but yet we're not hearing all too many screams about it... lots don't fine I guess? |
| 16:56 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I guess. |
| 16:58 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: also, in response to the domain, yuck. |
| 16:59 |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: re: wordpress gallery see: http://codex.wordpress.org/Gallery_Shortcode |
| 16:59 |
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nengard |
thank you!! |
| 16:59 |
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nengard |
wizzyrea did someone register it??? |
| 16:59 |
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oleonard |
nengard: Guess who. |
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nengard |
hmmmm |
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* wizzyrea |
disappears in a puff of smoke (back later) |
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wizzyrea is now known as wizzy_afk |
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* jcamins |
finds the "block Google results" so satisfying. :D |
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slef |
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH |
| 17:08 |
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nengard |
uh oh |
| 17:08 |
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nengard |
on that note ... |
| 17:08 |
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nengard is now known as nengard_lunch |
| 17:08 |
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slef |
PTFS is Piss-Taking Flaming Swines! |
| 17:09 |
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slef |
That is un-be-leivable |
| 17:09 |
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* druthb |
raises an eyebrow |
| 17:09 |
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jcamins |
Okay, maybe not unbelievable, but horrifying? |
| 17:10 |
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slef |
No, seriously, unbelievable |
| 17:10 |
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slef |
How can anyone run a business so evilly and still be in business as old as they are? |
| 17:11 |
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slef |
Registrar:Network Solutions LLC |
| 17:11 |
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slef |
probably no hope there, then |
| 17:11 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
| 17:12 |
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slef |
well, my flabber has been well and truly ghasted... I'm going to return to hacking |
| 17:12 |
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jwagner |
slef, are you slandering us for any particular reason, or just for the fun of it? |
| 17:13 |
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jwagner |
I'm pretty tired of this |
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| 17:13 |
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jcamins |
jwagner: kohacommunity.org |
| 17:13 |
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oleonard |
jwagner: http://kohacommunity.org |
| 17:13 |
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jwagner |
I'm assuming it's one of the domains we registered over a year ago. |
| 17:14 |
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oleonard |
How does that justify it? |
| 17:14 |
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jwagner |
Not saying it does. We've offered multiple times to discuss koha.org and other web issues, and been rebuffed every time. |
| 17:14 |
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slef |
jwagner: fair comment is not slander. |
| 17:15 |
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slef |
jwagner: ITYM you've offered multiple times to control the koha community and been rebuffed every time. |
| 17:15 |
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oleonard |
jwagner: I'm tired of that line |
| 17:15 |
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jwagner |
I'm tired of the crap I take in here all the time. Shall we have an exhaustion match? |
| 17:16 |
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oleonard |
jwagner: There's only one reason to buy and redirect kohacommunity.org to koha.org. That reason is to sow confusion and cause harm to koha-community.org |
| 17:16 |
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jwagner |
What are the registration dates for the domain? |
| 17:16 |
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slef |
jwagner: no, let's play nice and not register each others' names every chance we get. |
| 17:16 |
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slef |
Last Updated On:18-Feb-2011 |
| 17:17 |
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jwagner |
Is that the registration date or renewal date? |
| 17:17 |
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oleonard |
jwagner: Who cares? What does it matter? |
| 17:17 |
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oleonard |
If PTFS wanted to play nice the redirect wouldn't be there. |
| 17:18 |
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jwagner |
It matters as far as everyone having tantrums right now for something that may have been done and in place for well over a year. |
| 17:18 |
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rangi |
being in place for over a year |
| 17:18 |
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rangi |
MAKES IT WORSE |
| 17:18 |
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slef |
jwagner: neither. It's when PTFS last updated it. |
| 17:18 |
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oleonard |
jwagner: If PTFS wanted to play nice, the redirect would not be there |
| 17:18 |
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slef |
(or their suppliers) |
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| 17:22 |
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slef |
I've just had a server give me "(20014)Internal error: Error reading request entity data" for the second time in two days. Yesterday it was on tools/stage-marc-import.pl and today it is on cataloguing/addbiblio.pl - what's going on/what's going wrong? Anyone here seen that before? |
| 17:22 |
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jwagner |
We have asked repeatedly for community involvement with redesigning koha.org -- NOT us controlling it, but redesigning it to work with the community. The latest request was in discussions I had with Bob Birchall at KohaCon. There has been NO response to that. Why shouldn't we make use of a site we own, since the only feedback we get is negative? |
| 17:23 |
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oleonard |
jwagner: We don't want to help you redesign a site we have no ownership in |
| 17:23 |
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oleonard |
The discussion at the moment is: Why does kohacommunity.org redirect to koha.org? |
| 17:23 |
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jwagner |
Not even to make koha.org work with the community site and resources? That's what we offered. |
| 17:24 |
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oleonard |
jwagner: Why does kohacommunity.org redirect to koha.org? |
| 17:24 |
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jwagner |
It redirects because all the domain names we purchased a year or more ago do. If you'd like to help us make koha.org useful, we're (STILL) open to discussion. |
| 17:24 |
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oleonard |
jwagner: That's not an answer |
| 17:24 |
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rangi |
point koha.org to koha-community.org |
| 17:24 |
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oleonard |
jwagner: PTFS can control where its domains point |
| 17:24 |
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rangi |
or give koha.org to HLT |
| 17:24 |
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rangi |
either works |
| 17:25 |
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rangi |
nothing else does |
| 17:25 |
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rangi |
now im going back to helping ppl find food in christchurch |
| 17:35 |
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jcamins |
Okay, now I'm confused. |
| 17:35 |
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jcamins |
Can patrons edit public lists? |
| 17:35 |
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jcamins |
I always thought they could. |
| 17:35 |
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oleonard |
Patrons can create their own public lists |
| 17:35 |
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jcamins |
Sorry, yes, that's what I meant. |
| 17:35 |
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oleonard |
They always could. |
| 17:36 |
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jcamins |
Yes, that's what I thought, too. |
| 17:36 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 17:37 |
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oleonard |
I regret that my patrons can create their own public lists because one of the ones they created is titled: |
| 17:37 |
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oleonard |
The Booklist of Essential Reading for the Teenager With An Extreme Interest In Fantasy Fiction, Whose Interest In Which Indicates A Lifestyle Steeped In Escapism Through Literature, With A Slight Interest Or Indifference To Religious Themes |
| 17:37 |
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oleonard |
This does not fit well in a pop-up menu. |
| 17:38 |
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jcamins |
No, I would suppose not. |
| 17:39 |
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rhcl |
liblime.info is available if anybody wants to register it |
| 17:39 |
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rhcl |
ptfs.org is available |
| 17:40 |
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jcamins |
rhcl: huh, so they are. |
| 17:40 |
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rhcl |
liblime.biz |
| 17:41 |
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rhcl |
wouldn't it be funny if all those redirected to koha-community.org? |
| 17:43 |
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fcapo |
jcamins: About the IssuingInProcess problem you talked about some time ago: will you post a bug report? |
| 17:43 |
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jcamins |
fcapo: yes, I'm just trying to confirm that I understand the bug. |
| 17:44 |
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slef |
I don't know what discussions jwagner had with Bob Birchall. Not my problem. Also, the one request for "community involvement with redesigning koha.org" I saw seemed more or less "come work on PTFS's website for free" (no ta, we made that mistake with LibLime) and definitely had responses. |
| 17:45 |
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fcapo |
jcamins: ok, cool. Our clients complained about that problem and I would love to keep a link to a Koha bug report so we know when it's fixed :P |
| 17:46 |
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jcamins |
fcapo: could you clarify for me what you think noissuecharges should do? |
| 17:46 |
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jcamins |
I want to make sure when I post a bug that I describe what it should do properly. |
| 17:49 |
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fcapo |
When a member's fines total goes over the noissuecharges limit, issues are blocked for that member. |
| 17:49 |
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jcamins |
Should it be possible to override that? |
| 17:51 |
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fcapo |
Isn't there a preference that let the librarian override issuing blocks? |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
fcapo: maybe. |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
I'll check. |
| 17:52 |
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fcapo |
There seems to be a AllowNotForLoanOverride and AllowRenewalLimitOverride... |
| 17:52 |
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jcamins |
Hm, looks like a new syspref would be needed. AllowFineOverride. |
| 17:53 |
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fcapo |
I guess... Right now the default behaviour seems to be "Show a warning and let the librarian decide if we can issue anyways" |
| 17:54 |
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jcamins |
fcapo: from my point of view, I can't think of any circumstance where librarians wouldn't need the ability to override. |
| 17:57 |
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fcapo |
jcamins: yea, but there are already preferences to allow overrides for holds (AllowHoldPolicyOverride) and some kinds of issues (AllowNotForLoanOverride and AllowRenewalLimitOverride) |
| 18:00 |
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fcapo |
I don't know if these options are needed, but they exist already and we'd need the AllowFineOverride option if we want to stay consistent... |
| 18:00 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. Blurgh. |
| 18:00 |
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fcapo |
Just my opinion, I'm not a Koah expert... yet :P |
| 18:01 |
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fcapo |
Koha* |
| 18:01 |
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jcamins |
fcapo: no, I agree with you. |
| 18:01 |
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oleonard |
I agree with fcapo |
| 18:02 |
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jcamins |
Me too, I just still don't know how to add sysprefs. |
| 18:03 |
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oleonard |
make nengard_lunch tell you how :) |
| 18:03 |
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rangi |
easy peasy |
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rangi |
you edit the the .sql file for english |
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rangi |
then run perl xt/syspref.t |
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rangi |
and ti will tell you the other files to edit |
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jcamins |
Really? |
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rangi |
then you edit updatedatabase.pl |
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jcamins |
Cool! |
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oleonard |
That ought to be on this page: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ystem_Preferences |
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rangi |
and the .pref file in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/ |
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rangi |
(or something very similar) |
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jcamins |
Wow, that's a lot easier than I expected. |
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rangi |
make the number end with XXX |
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rangi |
before submitting a patch (and kohaversion.pl) |
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cait |
hi all |
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druthb |
hi, cait. :) |
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rangi |
and then ill change it to a valid number when its merged into master |
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jcamins |
I see. |
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jcamins |
I guess I can probably do that, then. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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rangi |
you sure can |
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rangi |
and if you get it wrong slightly, we can fix and tell ya, theres no harm in trying |
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rangi |
thats the lovely thing about the way we do development |
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jcamins |
:) |
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rangi |
the barrier to submitting a patch is very very low |
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rangi |
because it goes through checks before it is merged |
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nengard |
what am i telling who? |
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jcamins |
How to add sysprefs. |
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jcamins |
But rangi explained. |
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rangi |
this is good news |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]rescuers-expected |
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nengard |
:) |
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rangi |
this isnt |
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rangi |
Superintendent Russell Gibson said they had not rescued any more people overnight but more bodies had been found. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: updated the wiki page. |
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oleonard |
Thanks jcamins |
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jcamins |
Badly, it would seem. |
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jcamins |
I'll fix that. |
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jcamins |
That's better. |
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rangi |
the northern hemisphere shift for eq.org.nz have been keeping it up to date all night, now handing back over to nzers for the day |
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jcamins |
Okay, time for some lunch. |
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rangi |
nz redcross site is down, under load :( |
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rangi |
http://www.redcross.org.uk/nze[…]_twitNZearthquake |
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cait |
:( |
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* rangi |
goes to catch his bus |
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* druthb |
heads out to catch her plane. |
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* nengard |
goes to pick up her broken car |
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* cait |
stays |
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nengard |
:) |
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* wizzyrea |
is back |
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wizzyrea |
That is the most descriptive list name I've ever seen oleonard |
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wizzyrea |
specific much? |
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* jcamins |
returns with an omelet. |
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rangi |
I for one think its awesome |
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* jcamins |
did too. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ I agree, it's pretty awesome, but yes, hard to fit in a dropdown |
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jcamins |
Why don't we use complete-subfield for our subject tracings? |
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jcamins |
I think I'll e-mail koha-devel. |
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slef |
Should I post a reply to the license voting thread now, or leave it a few days to let people get on with helping eq? |
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slef |
nengard: did you get more new items? |
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nengard |
yes |
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slef |
news items, even |
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nengard |
yes to that too :) |
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slef |
cool. Enough? |
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nengard |
I think so |
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nengard |
it's not evenly distributed - but it's 6 articles |
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slef |
cool, I'll go cook dinner instead |
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slef |
hrm, is it a weak spot I could strengthen? |
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nengard |
thanks slef, i think it's going to be okay |
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rangi |
ok off to meeting |
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wizzyrea |
slef: I explained the Taunton thing :) |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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wizzyrea |
complete with video! |
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* wizzyrea |
hopes you laugh |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: what? |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: long story |
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wizzyrea |
well |
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wizzyrea |
medium length |
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* jcamins |
dies |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea++ # for hysterical YouTube videos |
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wizzyrea |
I will share it, just this once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]0&feature=related |
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jcamins |
Warning: a geeky cuteness explosion hides behind that unpronounceable link. |
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* oleonard |
is almost done with his calendar widget conversion |
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space_librarian |
Oh damn, that is fantastic. So well done! |
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wizzyrea |
:) I thought it was cute |
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jcamins |
Okay, time to call it a day. |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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wizzyrea |
is there a special permission for bib merging? |
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wizzyrea |
or is that just under cataloging |
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wizzyrea |
I didn't see one, but was asked to double verify |
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* mtj |
reads the PTFS scroll-back fail… :/ |
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mtj |
fuck, i get so infuriated with their shit |
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identify |
@karma PTFS |
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huginn |
identify: Karma for "PTFS" has been increased 8 times and decreased 12 times for a total karma of -4. |
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identify |
PTFS-- |
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identify |
@karma ptfs |
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huginn |
identify: Karma for "ptfs" has been increased 8 times and decreased 13 times for a total karma of -5. |
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mtj |
cant PTFS find another project to fuck over, and leave us alone... |
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mtj |
please? |
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identify |
Case insensitive karma degradation++ |
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mtj |
ooh, nice… :) |
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identify |
mtj: No worries they are getting into Evergreen but the community has learned from the koha woes |
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identify |
PTFS Europe, I do like that they are another play but the company just has shall we say bad karma : ) |
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mtj |
yeah, we've sure learnt not to trust people, anymore |
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identify |
s/another play/another player/ |
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rangi |
identify: ptfs-europe are differnt |
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rangi |
they send patches, dont squat on domains, dont try to register trademarks in nz |
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identify |
rangi: Are they? It's ptfs-europe. |
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rangi |
and one of their developers is qa manager for 3.4 |
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rangi |
yes, not the same company |
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identify |
Interesting. |
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rangi |
they actually deploy koha |
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mtj |
they just unfortunately share a similar name with another company that does :/ |
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rangi |
not ptfs-master or LLEK or whatever the hell its called now |
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mtj |
sucks to be them... |
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identify |
btw when did I change from moodaepo to identify? Must be when I was trying to /identify heh |
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rangi |
they resell ptfs stuff in europe |
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rangi |
and i think ptfs.com have a shareholding |
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mtj |
so, since the huge shit-fight discussion re: ptfs domain-squatting in sept-2010 |
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rangi |
identify: but youd probably want to get them to confirm that they are sep and can act with autonomy |
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mtj |
which generated about 30-ish replies to PTFS saying 'stop doing this' |
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identify |
I'm not on the koha mailing list is that where this new domain redirect info surfaced? |
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eythian |
I just checked the registration times, and k-c was around about 2 months earlier, I don't quite understand the point that jwagner was trying to make with that. |
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mtj |
...they have since flicked their switch, and are now redirecting their domains to koha.org |
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mtj |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]thread.html#25240 |
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mtj |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ember/025238.html |
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mtj |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ember/025289.html |
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identify |
Oh I remember that shit storm |
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identify |
I thought this was new... |
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mtj |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ember/025324.html |
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rangi |
it came up again today |
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identify |
rangi: Will do. By the way damn earth quakes, just saying. |
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rangi |
because now its redirecting to koha.org rather than to whereever it was before |
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mtj |
well, all those squatted domains were *parked* in sept-2010 |
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identify is now known as moodaepo |
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mtj |
whats new, is they all now point to koha.org |
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mtj |
from John Yokley |
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mtj |
" Nothing has been done with the domain names at |
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mtj |
this point. They do not have web sites built around them, nor do they |
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mtj |
re-direct anywhere. They are simply owned by LibLime, thus preventing any |
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moodaepo |
Hah I say write up notes on pointing those domains to koha-community.org and create host files and send it out to the list. |
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mtj |
non-Koha entity or competitor from acquiring the domains and diverting |
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moodaepo |
Every og hosts the info/host files so google thinks that page should also show up on koha search results |
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mtj |
potential future Koha users to other ILS solutions. This is to the benefit |
