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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4688231[…]ikes-Christchurch |
| 00:02 |
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rangi |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]ums/mqz-drum.html |
| 00:02 |
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bg |
damn |
| 00:03 |
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* rangi |
waits to hear from his relatives |
| 00:03 |
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rangi |
evacuating the hospital |
| 00:07 |
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rangi |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]uakes/latest.html |
| 00:09 |
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bg |
geeze |
| 00:09 |
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bg |
stuff is fast though :) |
| 00:11 |
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rangi |
that 5km down is the kicker |
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rangi |
bg: it still up for you? |
| 00:57 |
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bg |
I'm here |
| 00:58 |
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rangi |
can you get to stuff.co.nz ok? |
| 01:06 |
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bg |
yup fine |
| 01:06 |
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rangi |
ta |
| 01:06 |
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bg |
pretty snappy as usual |
| 01:07 |
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bg |
:) |
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| 01:09 |
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irmaB |
hello .. we are just doing some testing ... |
| 01:09 |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4688231[…]hristchurch-quake |
| 01:09 |
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rangi |
my head isnt in the game irmaB |
| 01:10 |
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eythian |
rangi: http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_[…]ews_live_high.asx |
| 01:13 |
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bg |
how long ago did this hit? |
| 01:14 |
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rangi |
just over an hour ago |
| 01:14 |
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rangi |
still getting decent aftershocks |
| 01:21 |
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irmaB |
Hi Chris ... wow not good news re Christchurch |
| 01:21 |
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irmaB |
chris when did you come back home/ |
| 01:22 |
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ibeardslee |
not a lot of work getting done in NZ as people are following the news |
| 01:26 |
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rangi |
irmaB: come back home? |
| 01:31 |
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irmaB |
sorry I have been quite unwell and not up to date but I thought you were in Canada... |
| 01:31 |
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rangi |
no, thats october |
| 01:31 |
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irmaB |
guess you have not gone yet... |
| 01:32 |
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rangi |
nope :) |
| 01:35 |
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irmaB |
I am off to the specialist tomorrow morning so should get a treatment plan then. |
| 01:36 |
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irmaB |
OK.. hope the quake is over and no more damage occurs. |
| 01:36 |
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irmaB |
Chat soon. Take care. |
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jwagner |
rangi, just popping in to see if your relatives in Christchurch are OK. Any news of them? |
| 02:43 |
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rangi |
yep have heard from them, they are ok |
| 02:43 |
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rangi |
luckily not in the central city |
| 02:43 |
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jwagner |
Really good news. It sounds pretty bad down there. |
| 02:43 |
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rangi |
yep it is |
| 02:44 |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4688231[…]hristchurch-quake |
| 02:44 |
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jwagner |
Yep, been reading that one & CNN. Sounds like the cathedral is down or mostly down, among other things. |
| 02:44 |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]ke-Running-report |
| 02:46 |
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* jwagner |
sends positive thoughts in that direction, not being able to do anything else.... |
| 02:46 |
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ibeardslee |
there is a lot of that floating around I think |
| 02:47 |
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jwagner |
Need to invent a lens to concentrate it. |
| 02:47 |
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jwagner |
Anyone else at Catalyst or online have family there? |
| 02:47 |
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ibeardslee |
the Catalyst people in ChCh are all ok |
| 02:48 |
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jwagner |
Good |
| 02:49 |
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ibeardslee |
still waiting to hear about one of the people working in the ChCh office from my last job |
| 02:49 |
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ibeardslee |
she was out for lunch at the time |
| 02:50 |
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jwagner |
Will keep my fingers crossed. Talk to you all tomorrow.... |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.04.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]076a0b9a54e118bea> / Release Notes for 3.02.04.000 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]deacce92fe907ac9e> |
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hudsonbot |
* Marcel de Rooy: Follow up on bug 2742: Correct language names in install |
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* Marcel de Rooy: Follow up on 5736: fix authorities record.abs |
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* Paul Poulain: Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers |
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* Paul Poulain: Bug 5760 : MT3137 : Adding jquery.tablesorter and jquery.tablesorter.pager support for readingrec.pl |
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* Magnus Enger: Bug 2742 Followup patch fixing Norwegian bokm?l, adding nynorsk |
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* Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.003 |
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* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5140 - In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar |
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* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5769 - notice tab disappearing on edit patron |
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* Paul Poulain: NormalizeString POD Fixing and variable renaming |
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hudsonbot |
* Fr?d?ric Demians: Bug 5777 Update and install syspref tab titles |
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hudsonbot |
* Reed Wade: Bug 5741 - Extra comma causes JavaScript error in Internet Explorer |
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hudsonbot |
* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5776 - menu on funds wraps when only 1 fund |
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hudsonbot |
* Chris Nighswonger: Revert "Fix for Bug 5769 - notice tab disappearing on edit patron" |
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hudsonbot |
* Chris Nighswonger: Revert "Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers" |
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hudsonbot |
* Chris Nighswonger: Revert "Partial fix for Bug 5745, Overdues with fines report not showing titles" |
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hudsonbot |
* Fr?d?ric Demians: Translation update for 3.2.4 |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_Master build #376: UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/376/ |
| 03:25 |
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hudsonbot |
* Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5782: Add warning when ordering a duplicate record from external source |
| 03:25 |
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hudsonbot |
* marcel libdevelop.rijksmuseum.nl: 2742: Wrong language name in the preferences |
| 03:25 |
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* Colin Campbell: Bug 3550 : Display changes needed in opac-results-grouped too |
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| 03:26 |
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* chris_n |
hits the hay |
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kmkale |
Namaskar #koha |
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druthb |
kia ora. |
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kmkale |
hey druthb |
| 03:44 |
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druthb |
hi, kmkale! |
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hudsonbot |
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hudsonbot |
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druthb |
chris_n++ |
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kmkale |
anyone seen this error? ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 2603: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'SET TIME_ZONE=@OLD_TIME_ZONE */' at line 8 |
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Oak |
hi druthb |
| 05:05 |
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druthb |
hi, Oak! :) |
| 05:05 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 05:05 |
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druthb |
kmkale: that's a new one on me |
| 05:05 |
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kmkale |
me too |
| 05:06 |
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kmkale |
weird. On second attempt at web installer that error is gone |
| 05:06 |
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* druthb |
boggles a little. |
| 05:12 |
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kmkale |
additionally the new site's httpd.conf is overriding that of all other sites. Guess it not my day today :( |
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kmkale |
few!! silly mistakes |
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rangi |
crap, theres not a lot of good news coming out of christchurch |
| 06:02 |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]hristchurch-quake |
| 06:02 |
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druthb |
hope your kin are well, rangi. |
| 06:03 |
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rangi |
ive heard from all of mine |
| 06:03 |
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rangi |
hous\ |
| 06:03 |
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rangi |
my aunt and uncles house is destroyed |
| 06:03 |
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rangi |
but they are safe |
| 06:04 |
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rangi |
plenty of families not as lucky :( |
| 06:04 |
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* druthb |
nods. |
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* druthb |
is not a prayin' being, having a strong skepticism in the Great Whatever, but you and your countryfolk are in my thoughts and meditations, rangi. |
| 06:13 |
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rangi |
thank you |
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Elwell |
flip. Just woken to see christchurch news -- thoughts go out to the kiwis here - hope all are OK |
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cait |
waking up to the christchuch news :( |
| 06:56 |
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rangi |
have heard from my family, they are ok, there is one librarian i talk to on twitter i havent heard from yet tho |
| 06:56 |
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cait |
hope he/she is ok too |
| 06:57 |
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rangi |
im sure she is |
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magnuse |
chris_n++ |
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Brooke_ |
kia ora |
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* druthb |
boggles |
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magnuse |
kia ora Brooke and druthb and #koha |
| 07:06 |
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cait |
morning magnuse |
| 07:06 |
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magnuse |
awake, at this hour, Brooke & druthb?!? |
| 07:06 |
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magnuse |
hiya cait |
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* cait |
wondered about htat too |
| 07:06 |
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druthb |
not for long. I'm just on my way out. |
| 07:07 |
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magnuse |
please feel free to stay longer! ;-) |
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* magnuse |
guesses he is in slightly earlier than normal... |
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druthb |
I need to try to get a little sleep before more training tomorrow. :) |
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* druthb |
waves |
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magnuse |
sleep tight! |
| 07:08 |
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* cait |
is still waking up |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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* magnuse |
wonders what excuse Brooke_ has... |
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Brooke_ |
>.> |
| 07:08 |
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Brooke_ |
<.< |
| 07:08 |
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Brooke_ |
uh |
| 07:08 |
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Brooke_ |
Warcraft made me do it? |
| 07:09 |
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Brooke_ |
one of my guildies was all like "Hey, earthquake in NZ!" |
| 07:09 |
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Brooke_ |
and I was like orlly? |
| 07:10 |
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Brooke_ |
so I had to check on #koha |
| 07:10 |
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magnuse |
yeah, poor people of Christchurch, again! |
| 07:10 |
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magnuse |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/ |
| 07:11 |
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cait |
:( |
| 07:18 |
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magnuse |
huh, the "release team" info here http://koha-community.org/koha-3-2-4/ isn't entirely up to date, i think... |
| 07:27 |
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cait |
hm, not sure about that page: http://www.kohadocs.org/usersguide/apb.html |
| 07:29 |
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cait |
magnuse: looks ok to me - chris_n is release maintainer |
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cait |
bbl |
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magnuse |
ah, of course, it's just my head messing with me... |
| 07:47 |
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magnuse |
"OCLC Systems and Services" has an article on "How to choose a free and open source integrated library system" http://www.emeraldinsight.com/[…]418&show=abstract - too bad it's not Open Access... |
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magnuse |
ah, of course it's part og the "Open source ILS/OPAC implementations" issue, should have seen that before then |
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francharb |
hello all |
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magnuse |
bonjour francharb |
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francharb |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p |
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rangi |
http://twitpic.com/42e3tb |
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mtj |
evening all |
| 08:09 |
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rangi |
http://twitpic.com/42e3le |
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hdl |
hi rangi... Sending kind regards to all kiwis. |
| 08:10 |
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magnuse |
wow, scary pics |
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mtj |
i've been offline most of the afternoon, still catching up on the chch-quake news |
| 08:13 |
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mtj |
lyttelton must be pretty leveled :/ |
| 08:13 |
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rangi |
its just gonna get worse |
| 08:13 |
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rangi |
still lots of trapped/missing people |
| 08:13 |
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ibeardslee |
it's one of those things where you look with mild interest when it happens overseas |
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ibeardslee |
but it changes a great deal when it is so close to home |
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mtj |
im amazed wgtn hasnt had a wack yet |
| 08:15 |
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ibeardslee |
shhh |
| 08:15 |
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ibeardslee |
although if you listen to the Waitangi Day prophecy .. June? |
| 08:15 |
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* mtj |
touches head... |
| 08:16 |
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mtj |
ah, hadn't heard that one |
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ibeardslee |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]on-for-Wellington |
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mtj |
wow, i def. didnt here *that* story |
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mtj |
s/here/hear/ |
| 08:30 |
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mtj |
its a spooky story |
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mtj |
i sense a peter.jackson movie script being inked, as we speak :p |
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mtj |
… with perfect-storm/armageddon effects by weta |
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mtj |
a parting insult by our prime-minister |
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mtj |
"Prime Minister John Key, who led a prayer earlier, said he would "not be taking too much away from that last [speaker]." |
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mtj |
actually, this whole topic is inappropriate on irc |
| 08:38 |
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mtj |
i'll shut up now… :/ |
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mtj |
sorry about that folks |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
guten tag kf |
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kf |
god morgen magnus |
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nengard |
morning all |
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magnuse |
g'day nengard |
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kf |
owen: around? |
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kf |
hm. no. |
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kf |
hi nengard :) |
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kf |
I am trying to change the link to the borrower's account on the check-in page |
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kf |
to go to the pay fines page |
| 12:53 |
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nengard |
do you need the right link? |
| 12:53 |
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nengard |
or feedback? |
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nengard |
I think it makes sense |
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kf |
ah sorry, thinking loud |
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kf |
trying to do it with jquery |
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kf |
but I am a bit stuck on how to change only the part of the link, but keep the borrower number |
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kf |
hoped owen would show up |
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kf |
nengard: I added a comment to the old bug - not reporting htat someone has fines during check-in |
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nengard |
why do you need jquery for that? |
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nengard |
isn't it just an html link? |
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kf |
bug 1962 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1962 enhancement, P3, ---, chris, NEW, Add fine notification during check-in |
| 12:55 |
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nengard |
cgi-bin/koha/members/pay.pl?borrowernumber=51 |
| 12:55 |
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kf |
I don't want to edit the template files |
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kf |
thinking about a patch for that too - also not sure all want pay fines as default |
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kf |
at the moment the link goes to the details page |
| 12:56 |
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kf |
but you can't see the fines there |
| 12:56 |
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kf |
searching for a quick fix for one of our production systems |
| 12:57 |
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nengard |
does anyone know who designed the 'bridge' icon set in koha? |
| 12:57 |
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nengard |
would be nice to get a new computer file icon since right now it's a floppy disk - maybe a thumb drive instead |
| 12:59 |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
let me get the link for you |
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kf |
http://apps.carleton.edu/campu[…]ary/bridge_icons/ |
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kf |
it's on the about page too I think |
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magnuse |
kf: yep: "The Bridge Material Type Icon Set is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License by the Bridge Consortium of Carleton College and St. Olaf College." |
| 13:02 |
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kf |
we have the icons in our horizon webpacs |
| 13:02 |
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kf |
you can even download photoshop files |
| 13:05 |
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nengard |
I'm not very creative/artsy so I can't create a new icon in that style - but maybe oleonard can |
| 13:05 |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
or someone else artsy |
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nengard |
thanks for the link though |
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kf |
I did one for article |
| 13:07 |
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kf |
it looks like score but whithout the note |
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kf |
https://webpac10.bsz-bw.de/pics/imgs/_article.gif |
| 13:09 |
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nengard |
did you submit it back to the project - and to Koha? |
| 13:09 |
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nengard |
was just going to do one for Reference |
| 13:09 |
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nengard |
using the book |
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kf |
uh no, not yet :( was planned but I forgot about it |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
that's easy peasy! just email it to Matt mryan [at] carleton [dot] edu |
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nengard |
and submit a patch to Koha |
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kf |
ok, will try to do it - will try to find the photoshop file |
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write herself a reminder |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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kf |
good morning jared :) |
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magnuse |
hiya jcamins |
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nengard |
kf i finished my reference icon and emailed it to him |
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nengard |
now to write up a patch for Koha |
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jcamins |
nengard++ # for using DOIs. |
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nengard |
:) hehe |
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kf |
nengard: in which format did you send it? |
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nengard |
to matt? I sent psd - in my patch it's a gif though |
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nengard |
I'd like to see a new computer file icon and an icon for an audiobook - those two I can't figure out how to do with my poor art skills |
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kf |
would the note on a book work? |
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kf |
the red round note icon on the book icon? |
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nengard |
kf I was thinking of changing the CD icon |
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nengard |
and putting a book in the red circle |
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nengard |
but I don't know if I can do it |
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kf |
hm, yes, more complicated |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
i guess the book with the sound circle would work too |
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kf |
hm, and the description? |
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kf |
Audiobook? |
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kf |
hope it's not too long |
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nengard |
kf, yes audiobook |
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nengard |
and reference was too long so i had to shrink the font |
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JesseM |
good morning #Koha |
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kf |
hi JesseM |
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JesseM |
Hello kf |
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marck |
good morning all! |
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kf |
hi marck |
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marck |
hi kf |
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kmkale |
can someone tell me what "Holds to pull" is for? |
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marck |
i'm preparing for a little presentation about koha |
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nengard |
kmkale it's supposed to show you what holds are waiting for you to pull them off the shelf |
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marck |
and i got a problem |
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nengard |
if you don't allow on shelf holds then you should have an empty report |
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nengard |
marck what prob? |
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kmkale |
aahh!! thanks nengard |
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marck |
i cant place a hold on an item |
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marck |
it gives me No copies are available to be placed on hold |
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nengard |
do you have a circ rule for all libraries, all items types and all patron categories? |
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nengard |
you always need one rule for 'all' |
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marck |
yep i've set the Default rule |
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nengard |
and do you allow on shelf holds |
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nengard |
? |
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marck |
where do i set it? |
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marck |
sys prefs ? |
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nengard |
yes |
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marck |
got it :D |
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marck |
10x :D |
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marck |
is there any already made presentation to follow? |
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nengard |
I have a bunch of tutorial videos here: http://bywatersolutios.blip.tv |
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nengard |
and there is a koha group on slideshare |
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nengard |
http://www.slideshare.net/grou[…]ha-ils/slideshows |
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marck |
10x! i'll check them out now |
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marck |
blip gave me Notice |
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marck |
I couldn't find that user |
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jcamins |
marck: typo. http://bywatersolutions.blip.tv |
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jcamins |
Great, the exterminator says that the only roaches he can find are dead. |
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oleonard |
Like the ending of a roach version of Reservoir Dogs... |
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nengard |
jcamins well that sounds promising |
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nengard |
and thanks for fixing my typo |
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jcamins |
nengard: but he only just arrived, and hasn't done anything yet. |
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nengard |
if they're all dead what does he have to do? |
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jcamins |
nengard: something that will make them not come back. |
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nengard |
ah |
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nengard |
got it |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: thanks for the report :) |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: my pleasure. |
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jcamins |
That one was fun. |
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wizzyrea |
I'm going to add that report to the bug for the "check for holds before deleting things" bug |
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jcamins |
Good idea. |
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jcamins |
I guess it should also go on the wiki. |
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wizzyrea |
well it's kind of only applicable because of the bug, imo |
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jcamins |
That's true. |
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wizzyrea |
if we were properly checking for holds before we deleted things we wouldn't need it |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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kmkale |
If a patron updates his details in OPAC a message "Your corrections have been submitted to the library, and a staff member will update your record as soon as possible." is displayed. In staff client where exactly is the staff to check and update? and how is s/he supposed to know that some patron has updated his/her details? |
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nengard |
it's sent via email to the staff |
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nengard |
then they copy paste the changes into Koha |
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kmkale |
oh. Thanks again nengard |
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nengard |
btw - all of this is in the manual (which is why I keep answering) |
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kmkale |
sorry nengard i should have checked the manual 1st before asking |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
no problem! just reminding everyone |
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jwagner |
Speaking of patron details, was the patch on Bug 3596 ever pushed to head? If I'm reading it right, one of the problems is that changes to the street address weren't coming through? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3596 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, OPAC Patron Details Form Missing fields |
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wizzyrea |
bug 3536 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3536 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt |
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wizzyrea |
I'm still seeing the bad behavior, contrary to what owen says :/ |
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oleonard |
really wizzyrea? We just got our upgrade this weekend and I've been seeing the correct behavior all morning |
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is now on 3.2.x after putting it off forever |
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wizzyrea |
well I just checked it in magnus's demo, and it only says "not checked out" |
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wizzyrea |
same in both of our test servers |
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wizzyrea |
so either we're missing a preference or... |
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wizzyrea |
what version specifically are you using? |
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wizzyrea |
(i'm looking at master) |
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wizzyrea |
on 3.3 |
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wizzyrea |
in our case: automaticItemReturn is "do" |
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wizzyrea |
anybody have a 3.2.x test server? |
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wizzyrea |
that I could poke at? |
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oleonard |
paul_p++ # for bug-wrangling |
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paul_p |
oleonard, the task is more than huge ! I just took care of those coming from BibLibre. Will take care of some others i think, but not all. There are 120 bugs "patch pushed" atm... |
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oleonard |
Indeed. And I've found some new bugs just by going through that list and re-testing some things. It is definitely worthwhile! |
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kf |
we need to do it more regularly, but it's hard |
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mib_rk6g6v |
Hi Koha |
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kf |
hi atz |
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mib_rk6g6v |
How is New Z? |
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paul_p |
mib_rk6g6v, north island is OK afaik (that's where most of community-involved-kohaers are) |
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paul_p |
mib_rk6g6v, seen a tweet from jransom saying his family was OK. No other news |
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mib_rk6g6v |
Thanks |
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wizzyrea |
yea, rangi's fam is ok, they lost their house though (I think) |
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(extended family) |
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(not his family) |
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jcamins |
Where do Koha's warnings go? |
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jwagner |
jcamins, to one of the error logs? |
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jcamins |
jwagner: yeah, that was my guess, too. |
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jwagner |
intranet or opac, depending on where it originated |
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jcamins |
Intranet, but I'm not seeing anything. |
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jcamins |
Oh, found it. |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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bencahill |
so, I'm guessing a p4 1.6ghz is too slow to run even the lightest koha install? |
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jcamins |
bencahill: I think you could do it. |
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jcamins |
It won't be zippy, but I think it can be done. |
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wizzyrea |
it can be done |
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bencahill |
jcamins: well, I did it, but it's so slow :( |
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jcamins |
Ah. Yeah. |
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wizzyrea |
really memory is what you have to have plenty of |
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bencahill |
about 5 seconds for any pageload in the backend, or more |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: not running out of memory... |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: it's using 100% cpu during a pageload, not really any disk... |
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jcamins |
I'm running into a really weird error. For some reason, Koha is treating "select_city" like a field in the borrowers table during patron add. |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: does koha not normally use much cpu? |
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wizzyrea |
I haven't experienced that thing (and I run 2 koha's on "substandard" hardware) |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: odd...if it matters, I'm running arch...would the xml parser affect that? |
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bencahill |
(that=cpu usage) |
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wizzyrea |
no clue really, I only use debian and/or ubuntu |
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jcamins |
bencahill: which XML parser are you using? |
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* bencahill |
checks |
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jcamins |
And, yes, that makes a huge difference. |
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pastebot0 |
"bencahill" at 74.193.23.53 pasted "wrong parser" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/151 |
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jcamins |
bencahill: cool, you have answered the question "would performance improve." |
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bencahill |
ah, that ^^ is the output of misc/sax_parser_print.pl, but I don't know how to change it :-/ |
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jcamins |
Definitely not. |
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jcamins |
See INSTALL.debian. |
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jcamins |
It'll be the same for Arch. |
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jcamins |
Well, similar. |
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jcamins |
Just use locate. |
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jcamins |
(to find whatever file it is you're supposed to edit) |
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bencahill |
jcamins: what do you mean by "Definitely not." |
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bencahill |
? |
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jcamins |
It definitely doesn't improve performance. ;) |
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bencahill |
what doesn't? :-/ |
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is confused, as usual :P |
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wizzyrea |
I think he means that having the wrong parser will impede performance |
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jcamins |
Using an XML parser other than the one you're supposed to does not improve performance. |
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bencahill |
jcamins: oh, gotcha :) |
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rangi |
if someone wants to answer hansbkk saying he can do what he wants by uploading a new record and using the merge biblio tool to merge tht with the existing one, that lets you combine choosing the fields you want |
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rangi |
i would be very grateful |
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bencahill |
jcamins: I suppose I don't need to restart anything after changing the .ini? |
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jcamins |
bencahill: I don't think so. |
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jcamins |
Maybe Apache? |
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bencahill |
jcamins: can't hurt... |
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bencahill |
seems slightly faster, perhaps 4 seconds instead of 5 seconds... |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: what do you classify as "substandard"? |
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wizzyrea |
rangi: sent (so nobody else duplicates effort) |
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wizzyrea |
probably similar specs to what you're using |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: and it's (they're) not slow like mine? |
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nengard |
has anyone tried the batch edit of items with a amperstand in an authorized value - i have someone reporting that they are only seeing the first time change - i'm wondering if the & is doing it |
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wizzyrea |
I don't get complaints about them being slow like yours, no |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: interesting...I could increase the ram, but it's only using 191MB (right now) out of ~640MB |
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bencahill |
and the system is running nothing else... |
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wizzyrea |
that is probably the only difference |
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wizzyrea |
mine have at least a gig each |
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wizzyrea |
how many items in your collection? how many patrons? |
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cait |
bencahill: i have koha on 2 laptops, never got near the 5 seconds |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: uh, 0, and 3 :P |
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Oak |
heard about the earth quake and loss of lives... |
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wizzyrea |
earthquake-- |
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Oak |
ya |
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Oak |
that |
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bencahill |
cait: it's why I'm confused, doesn't seem like it should be this slow |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: (almost) fresh install |
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wizzyrea |
are you using the sample categories and stuff? do you perhaps not have everything configured? |
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wizzyrea |
what operation is taking 5 seconds? |
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wizzyrea |
what are you trying to do? |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: a few of the sample stuff, not all |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: going from home (after login) to circulation (on the backend) |
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bencahill |
or any other pageload, for that matter... |
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jcamins |
bencahill: how does Apache work generally? |
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bencahill |
jcamins: well, I'm not using anything else on it, as this computer was just to serve koha |
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jcamins |
bencahill: hm. |
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jcamins |
Stick something like Wordpress on to see if Apache's the problem? |
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bencahill |
jcamins: I don't know how this relates to apache, but during a pageload, top shows the related .pl (e.g. mainpage.pl) taking 100% cpu for ~3.5 seconds, and then mysqld also taking ~50% for 1.5 seconds, and then the browser receives a response, and renders the page... |
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jcamins |
Wow. git log --pretty=oneline --graph --all is very daunting. |
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jcamins |
bencahill: not Apache then. |
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bencahill |
jcamins: right, what I thought :) |
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rangi |
Very sombre bus ride this morning |
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jwagner |
rangi, how do things look? I've seen the latest news reports on the casualties. Not good. |
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rangi |
Pretty horrible |
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rangi |
The good news is they rescued 11 over night |
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sends sympathy and positive thoughts. |
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jwagner |
That is good news. I assume NZ has similar Urban Search and Rescue specialty teams as U.S.? |
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jwagner |
We have one based near here, and we're always hearing about them deploying to places like Haiti earthquake |
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rangi |
http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/[…]quake-latest-info |
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rangi |
Yep they are all there |
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rangi |
Plus the army and all the police fire etc we can spare |
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rangi |
The aussies have just arrived |
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rangi |
And there are offers from japan and us |
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rangi |
I'm not sure if the govt accepted them |
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jwagner |
Looking at the news reports brought back some horrible images from 9/11 -- I hope this one has a better outcome as far as survivors |
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rangi |
Well in total numbers I'm sure we will |
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rangi |
Per capita its already worse |
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tcohen |
hi #koha |
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tcohen |
what do you think of this message: |
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tcohen |
"The biblio you requested does not exist." |
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tcohen |
is to be displayed if trying to open an invalid biblionumber in catalogue/detail.pl |
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cait |
hm perhaps an explanation, something about the index? |
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rangi |
If you include the biblio number |
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tcohen |
rangi: good one |
| 18:57 |
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rangi |
And ask them to cut and paste the message to give to whoever looks after the server |
| 18:57 |
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oleonard |
Did that used to give you a 404 error? |
| 18:58 |
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rangi |
Sometimes |
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rangi |
Sometimes it exploded |
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tcohen |
on master, it gives an internal server error |
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rangi |
404 on opac |
| 19:00 |
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tcohen |
yes, i'm talking about intranet |
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tcohen |
sprry for not explaining before |
| 19:03 |
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rangi |
Ok my stop bbl |
| 19:06 |
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tcohen |
oleonard: is it preferable a 404 error? |
| 19:06 |
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tcohen |
to a warning message box? |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
I think a moe specific message with an explanation is preferrable |
| 19:07 |
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oleonard |
tcohen: See Bug 2318 for a discussion of that |
| 19:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2318 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Attempting to view details of a biblio that does not exists results in a 404 error |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
so people know that it's not a bug |
| 19:07 |
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oleonard |
I think a message is preferable to a 404 error |
| 19:08 |
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tcohen |
Uh, i didn't find that bug when filled 5791 |
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tcohen |
mm, lets see: bug 5791 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5791 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Robust handling of deleted biblios/authorities |
| 19:09 |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Since the 404 error doesn't seem to be working anymore I'm not sure your bug is incorrect |
| 19:09 |
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oleonard |
(unless we just don't know what conditions trigger the 404) |
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tcohen |
right now we don't have 404 error in master (for non-existent biblionumber) |
| 19:11 |
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tcohen |
I first found this behavior on authorities, thou |
| 19:13 |
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tcohen |
and i'm not sure bug 2318 is clear on what needs to be done, i mean: what's the conclusion? |
| 19:13 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2318 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Attempting to view details of a biblio that does not exists results in a 404 error |
| 19:14 |
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oleonard |
There is no conclusion. The RM of 3.0 postponed the discussion ;) |
| 19:14 |
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oleonard |
It is probably worth raising the issue on the mailing list |
| 19:15 |
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tcohen |
ok, so the bug does not persist in master as we don't have 404 messages |
| 19:15 |
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tcohen |
that would make my bug valid :-P |
| 19:15 |
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oleonard |
That was my point as well tcohen |
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tcohen |
oleonard: i've sent an email on this |
| 19:17 |
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tcohen |
i think i have to go for a beer so this feeling that I wasted my time today goes away :-D |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Why do you think you wasted your time? |
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tcohen |
because i've been coding to send the patch the last 40 minutes |
| 19:19 |
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tcohen |
and didn't take time to ask if 404 error was preferable |
| 19:19 |
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tcohen |
I see it coming! |
| 19:21 |
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cait |
I still think an error message is preferable |
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* oleonard |
too |
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tcohen |
the 404 doesn't trigger because the 'unless (defined($record)) {' is missplaced |
| 19:25 |
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rangi |
errror message is better for staff side |
| 19:25 |
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rangi |
404 is better for opac |
| 19:27 |
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wizzyrea |
what's the package name for makemaker? or is it a cpan module |
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* wizzyrea |
has seen this before, cannot for the life of me remember how I fixed it. |
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wizzyrea |
but I do remember having to install makemaker. |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: ExtUtils::MakeMaker is the CPAN package |
| 19:38 |
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wizzyrea |
ah thank you |
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wizzyrea |
I will correct myself |
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gmcharlt |
though it would be odd to find a Perl installation that lacked it |
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wizzyrea |
I think that I had it happen once, and it might have been ubuntu 10.10 (but it's really fuzzy) |
| 19:40 |
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wizzyrea |
it's been awhile since it happened (more than a few weeks, less than 6 months) |
| 19:42 |
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wizzyrea |
his description didn't seem like MM was missing, just that he was having permisison troubles |
| 19:42 |
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wizzyrea |
but I thought I'd include it just in case |
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tcohen |
bye #koha, have a nice evening |
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jcamins |
Does anyone know how to see exactly what the last-executed query was using DBI? |
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jcamins |
$sth->Statement ? |
| 20:01 |
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jcamins |
No, that doesn't work. |
| 20:02 |
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jcamins |
Oh, $sth->{Statement} ? |
| 20:03 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that worked. |
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rangi |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl[…]church-eyewitness |
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yhager |
Hi, I don't have 'fast cataloging' - how can I enable that option? I'm on 3.2.2. Do I just run manually marc21_fastadd_framework.sql ? |
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slef |
rangi: did Welli wobble much? |
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slef |
yhager: I think that would work. |
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slef |
hi all :) |
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yhager |
ok, I'll try |
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rangi |
yhager: its a permissions thing also, you have to set that permission for the users you want to be abel to see it |
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rangi |
slef: physically no, i didnt feel it, internet sure wobbled |
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yhager |
it worked, thx. |
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cait |
looking at the patch for bug 1962 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1962 enhancement, P3, ---, chris, NEW, Add fine notification during check-in |
| 20:13 |
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slef |
rangi: it's easy to forget that the distances which look like small islands there are actually pretty large compared to what I'm used to. |
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cait |
I reimplemented the patch, because the format looked strange and there was no author line - and it works |
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rangi |
cait: cool |
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cait |
but: I am not sure how to send it in - because the author is someone else |
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yhager |
Got a question about authority file. We are importing most of our records using Z39, but some need to be added manually. So what happens if an author has 2 books, one comes from z39, and the other local? |
| 20:15 |
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cait |
and not sure about the message |
| 20:15 |
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cait |
Note: Patron has fines in the amount of 5.00 For payment, visit the fines page. |
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yhager |
will it have two "authority records" then? How will the system know to associate the two books with the same author? |
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rangi |
cait: just note that in the commit and the copyright |
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cait |
there is only a mail address on the bug |
| 20:17 |
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rangi |
thats good enough, just use that |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
thx rangi |
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rangi |
Original patch submitted by blah blah |
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rangi |
reformatted to apply cleanly |
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cait |
thx a lot |
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rangi |
np |
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rangi |
happy to feel useful today |
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cait |
it was on the evening news here too :( |
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slef |
yhager: I'm not sure, sorry. |
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yhager |
Maybe my question is unclear, sorry about that. Is there a way to have the authors of books we imported through z39 appear in the local authority file, for entering books that we cannot find through Z39? |
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slef |
yhager: I suspect that's the BiblioAddsAuthorities sledgehammer :-/ |
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yhager |
slef: I am guessing that would apply to new records, what about ones that were already imported? |
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yhager |
Or do I just want to avoid it? |
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slef |
yhager: I don't remember and don't have time to check, sorry :-( |
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cait |
yhager: I would think it should check for authors with the same heading - but never used those features |
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cait |
yhager: I think you will need to do some testing |
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yhager |
hmm.. I am just looking for the right(tm) solution for combining Z39 with adding marc records manually |
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| 20:33 |
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yhager |
Is there a way to define "roles", set permissions per role, and assign users to roles, instead of managing permissions per individual patrons? |
| 20:34 |
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oleonard |
Unfortunately no |
| 20:35 |
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yhager |
ok, I guess I'll write some sql's then.. |
| 20:35 |
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yhager |
thx all! :) |
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slef |
1. we should have a way to set permissions per role or group; 2. there must be a perl module for it by now |
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rangi |
send a patch slef |
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oleonard |
It should be "trivial" as programmers like to say :) |
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jcamins |
slef's_new_role_based_permissions++ |
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slef |
bah, I've other patches to send first... just handwaving |
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slef |
I don't understand why upload-file.pl is dying with "(20014)Internal error: Error reading request entity data". I think I'm going to leave this for another day. |
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slef |
Time for dinner, tv (including cricket) and sleep. |
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druthb |
cricket++ |
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space_librarian |
hooray for cricket! |
| 20:48 |
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jcamins |
crickets++ # I hear they eat other bugs |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
poor jcamins |
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bencahill |
hmm, trying to use NYTProf on koha, I did "perl -d:NYTProf /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/circ/circulation-home.pl", and got "Can't locate C4/Auth.pm in @INC (@INC contains...", could this be why koha is slow? |
| 20:49 |
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jcamins |
Actually, the exterminator today was very thorough. I am cautiously optimistic. |
| 20:50 |
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jcamins |
bencahill: sounds like you don't have PERL5LIB set correctly. |
| 20:50 |
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bencahill |
jcamins: ah, d'oh |
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jcamins |
While you're at it, check KOHA_CONF. ;) |
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bencahill |
jcamins: right, I set 'em :) |
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| 20:52 |
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bencahill |
I'm hoping this uncovers something :) |
| 20:52 |
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wizzyrea |
does anybody know how you get your zebra version from the command line? I'm having a moment. |
| 20:53 |
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mtj |
bencahill: your slowness problem becomes more difficult to troubleshoot, because you are running other stuff on your koha server |
| 20:53 |
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mtj |
like a desktop, with a browser, and stuff... |
| 20:53 |
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bencahill |
mtj: what do you mean? just running apache,mysql,perl |
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bencahill |
mtj: nope, cli with nothing else |
| 20:53 |
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bencahill |
mtj: kohainstall != ircclient :) |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: zebraidx -V |
| 20:54 |
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wizzyrea |
rangi, ty |
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mtj |
bencahill: ah, sorry, i may have confused you with someone else on the koha-list |
| 20:55 |
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bencahill |
mtj: yup, never been on the list, just here :) |
| 20:56 |
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mtj |
someone attached a screenshot of top, with 8-ish chrome processes running, on their koha box |
| 20:57 |
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bencahill |
o_o, 51951.35sline � block � subC4/Languages.pm |
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bencahill |
mtj: lol, chrome ain't good when you need ram :D |
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mtj |
yeah, thats what i was thinking too |
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jcamins |
bencahill: 1.35 seconds in C4/Languages? |
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mtj |
oh, and prolly wanna close your itunes too, etc |
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jcamins |
Chrome's better than FF when you need RAM. |
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bencahill |
jcamins: nah, but another discussion for another day :) |
| 20:59 |
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bencahill |
see this: |
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pastebot0 |
"bencahill" at 74.193.23.53 pasted "slow times" (68 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/152 |
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mtj |
bencahill: the language thing was a known perf. issue, so might be something there..... |
| 20:59 |
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bencahill |
^^ man, that thing is fast :) |
| 20:59 |
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bencahill |
mtj: hmm... |
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bencahill |
rangi: above ^^ is the output from nytprof, do you mind looking at it? |
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rangi |
kinda busy today bencahill |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]quake-latest-info |
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bencahill |
rangi: okay, np |
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bencahill |
rangi: right, sorry :) |
| 21:03 |
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* wizzyrea |
notes that rangi is in NZ and has other things on his mind |
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rangi |
i used to work on the team that does that site, helping out today |
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bencahill |
mtj: 211139ms1.38sC4::Languages::getAllLanguages |
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mtj |
bencahill: interesting..... |
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mtj |
my koha-head doesn't thrash on Lang.pm, like yours does |
| 21:11 |
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mtj |
http://www.kohaaloha.com/nytprof/ |
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bencahill |
mtj: what does that do, provide multiple language support? |
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bencahill |
mtj: utf8_heavy.pl is 242ms on mine... |
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mtj |
you need to remove/delete all you language dirs, and retest... |
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mtj |
or something |
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bencahill |
where are the language dirs? |
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| 21:15 |
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mtj |
under the tmpl dirs |
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mtj |
just leave the 'en' dir |
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mtj |
fyi: you should only have the 'en' dir, on a vanilla install |
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mtj |
ah, you have a 'standard' install, not a 'dev' install |
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bencahill |
where are the tmpl dirs? :blush: |
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wizzyrea |
kohadir/koha-tmpl |
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mtj |
standard may include all lang dirs, pre built |
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bencahill |
mtj: I used the aur (arch) package... |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: thanks |
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mtj |
pass, i only run dev installs |
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wizzyrea |
bencahill: what version are you trying to run? |
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bencahill |
mtj: what is a dev install? |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: of koha? 3.2.2 |
| 21:18 |
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wizzyrea |
k just making sure |
| 21:18 |
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mtj |
bencahill: an install step up like this... |
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mtj |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: I feel so dumb, the koha dir is /usr/share/koha, right? it has bin,doc,intranet,lib,man,misc,opac...am I missing something? |
| 21:19 |
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mtj |
it puts the directories in different places, etc |
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mtj |
bencahill: i think you should do a dev install, and compare speeds ;) |
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rangi |
dont do that |
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rangi |
bencahill: look in /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/ |
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rangi |
and intranet/htdocs |
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bencahill |
rangi: ah, k |
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rangi |
in the opac one will be opac-tmpl |
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bencahill |
mtj: just en |
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bencahill |
rangi: right, and then prog/ |
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rangi |
yep, and just en for both? |
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rangi |
ok |
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bencahill |
rangi: yes, in addition to img,pdf,sound (for both) |
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rangi |
do you have memcached running? |
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rangi |
you could try that, install memcached |
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bencahill |
no... |
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bencahill |
or at least I don't think so |
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rangi |
k, if you install that and add these two lines to you koha-conf.xml |
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rangi |
<memcached_servers>127.0.0.1:11211</memcached_servers> <memcached_namespace>KOHA</memcached_namespace> |
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mtj |
ah, as always, rangi has a better suggestion |
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rangi |
(down the bottom of the file before the </config> |
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rangi |
) |
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bencahill |
ah, k, those two are empty right now |
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mtj |
cheers chris |
| 21:24 |
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rangi |
then |
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bencahill |
rangi: one sec... |
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rangi |
memoize_memcached('getFrameworkLanguages' , memcached => $memcached, expire_time => 600); |
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rangi |
will kick in |
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bencahill |
where that ^^? |
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bencahill |
rangi: oh, nvm :) |
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rangi |
you may need to install |
| 21:24 |
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rangi |
Memoize::Memcached |
| 21:24 |
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rangi |
which is a perl module |
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rangi |
so you should be able to cpan it on |
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bencahill |
already installed... |
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rangi |
cool |
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rangi |
just memcached itself and change the config |
| 21:25 |
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rangi |
and then it should be caching it, and hopefully that will speed it up |
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bencahill |
do I need to run anything or just change the config |
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rangi |
you need to check memcached is running |
| 21:26 |
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rangi |
then change the config and you are done |
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bencahill |
ah, I just started it :) |
| 21:26 |
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bencahill |
ok, trying... |
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rangi |
try profiling it a couple of times |
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rangi |
first should be slow, second should be faster |
| 21:29 |
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jwagner |
I don't think anyone answered my question from this morning -- was Bug 3596 ever pushed into head? |
| 21:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3596 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, OPAC Patron Details Form Missing fields |
| 21:29 |
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* bencahill |
waits for nytprofhtml |
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rangi |
if which head? |
| 21:30 |
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cait |
there is a message from gmcharlt on the patch |
| 21:30 |
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cait |
so I think it was pushed |
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rangi |
its in master |
| 21:30 |
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jwagner |
That's what I wanted to check, thanks. |
| 21:30 |
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gmcharlt |
yep |
| 21:31 |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]&st=commit&s=3596 |
| 21:31 |
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mtj |
rangi: thanks again for the language/memcached reminder |
| 21:31 |
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rangi |
np |
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cait |
rangi: sure? it seems this is a patch from nicole for a different bug |
| 21:32 |
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rangi |
Bugs: 1172 3579 3596 fixes to patron detail in opac |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
ah |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
I there are 2 patches for that bug in master |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
was looking at the one where only one file was changed |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
sorry |
| 21:33 |
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bencahill |
rangi: wow, completely nixed the Lang.pm (down to 13.4ms), so now pageloads are down to ~3.5 rather than ~4.8 seconds |
| 21:34 |
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rangi |
whats the big hit now? |
| 21:42 |
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pastebot0 |
"bencahill" at 74.193.23.53 pasted "big hits" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/153 |
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bencahill |
rangi: ^^ those are the ones still 100ms and greater |
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(sorry for being slow) |
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rangi |
yeah, not really anything we can do about those |
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rangi |
all outside of koha |
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rangi |
only thing you can try |
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rangi |
is switch the session |
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rangi |
(in system preferences) |
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bencahill |
the session? |
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rangi |
from using mysql to using /tmp |
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rangi |
just search for session in systempreferences |
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rangi |
hi pauln |
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bencahill |
rangi: oh, inside koha... |
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rangi |
yeah in the admin section |
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mtj |
ah, Date/Manip/Base.pm is still up there too |
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bencahill |
rangi: nothing to be hurt by trying it? |
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rangi |
nope, can always switch it back |
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pauln |
hi rangi |
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mtj |
heya pauln |
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rangi |
http://wiki.crisiscommons.org/wiki/CrisisCampNZ |
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rangi |
if you want to help out mtj |
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mtj |
interesting, thanx chris |
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rangi |
http://shiny.status.net/attachment/6397 |
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rangi |
thats down on level 3, reading sms's and updating eq.org.nz |
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bencahill |
rangi: session didn't make much/any difference, but thanks for the memcached, big difference there :) |
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bencahill |
rangi: hopefully we'll acquire a faster computer than this p4 1.6 at some point :) |
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rangi |
that would certainly help :) |
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wizzyrea |
hee, "modern computer" doesn't mean "p4" to me, anymore |
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cait |
hi sekjal |
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sekjal |
hi, cait! |
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bencahill |
wizzyrea: I have no definition for "modern computer", I'd rather consider usage scenarios. :) |
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cait |
rangi: still around? |
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rangi |
sorta |
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cait |
I am looking at your patch for 5780 |
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cait |
bug 5780 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5780 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, RIS format export not exporting URI field |
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cait |
I see that only the first url is exported, a second url is not |
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rangi |
right |
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cait |
is this enough for fails qa? |
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rangi |
yep |
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cait |
hope I didn't miss something |
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rangi |
nope it does only do one |
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cait |
time to go to bed |
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cait |
hope to wake up to better news tomorrow |
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@wunder 93109 |
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