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rangi |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi, rangi! :) |
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rangi |
@marc 300 |
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rangi: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5776 - menu on funds wraps when only 1 fund <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3cccd9cf387dfcc09> |
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Starting build 374 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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Project Koha_Master build #374: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/374/ |
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Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5776 - menu on funds wraps when only 1 fund |
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kmkale |
Namaskar #koha |
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druthb |
Namaste, kmkale. :D |
03:51 |
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space_librarian |
Namaste, kmkale. :) |
03:51 |
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druthb |
All set to throw a mighty conference in Thane? |
03:51 |
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kmkale |
heya druthb Yup :) |
03:51 |
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kmkale |
hi space_librarian |
03:52 |
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kmkale |
I was away for a few days doing a Koha training trip in Konkan, then the weekend. But this is great |
03:52 |
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druthb |
I'm excited about the idea of coming to India for the con! It'll be fun. |
03:52 |
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kmkale |
yes. 1 min on phone.. |
03:55 |
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kmkale |
druthb: I hope everyone will come. |
03:56 |
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kmkale |
I am going to throw up a site with registrations and speakers etc asap |
03:57 |
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kmkale |
rangi: around? |
03:58 |
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rangi |
for a few more mins, then ill be back from the bus a bit later also |
03:58 |
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rangi |
whats up? |
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druthb |
kmkale: once I know for sure that I'm going, I'll jump in with *some* kind of presentation proposal, I imagine. It's hard for me to speak about what I do, because it comes so naturally to me--it'd be like speaking about how to breathe or perspire or make your heart beat. You don't think about it, you just *do* it, mostly. |
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kmkale |
this kocon I think we will have a lot of student participation |
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kmkale |
so think about how to get new ppl into koha dev or guide budding librarians on to koha |
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* space_librarian |
agrees |
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kmkale |
getting the international Koha community here and exposing our librarians and students to you good people is the whole purpose behind bidding for kohacon for us |
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* rangi |
heads for the bus, bbl |
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kmkale |
brb. gonna reboot |
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Brooke_ |
kia ora |
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druthb |
hi, Brooke! |
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Brooke_ |
:) |
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kmkale |
hey Brooke_ |
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wahanui |
i think Brooke_ is not quite as she tries to appear. It's okay, though; she's really very sweet. |
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Brooke_ |
wahanui: forget brooke |
05:28 |
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wahanui |
Brooke_, I didn't have anything matching brooke |
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Brooke_ |
wahanui: forget Brooke_ |
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wahanui |
Brooke_: I forgot brooke_ |
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Brooke_ |
how's it going? |
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Brooke_ |
druthb? |
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wahanui |
druthb is quite possibly insane, but she fits right in at ByWater Solutions, because of it. |
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Brooke_ |
ehhhh |
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* druthb |
sticks her thumbs in her ears and goes "wugga wugga wugga!" |
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Brooke_ |
I like the stuff I read in the logs about the conference :) |
05:33 |
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kmkale |
Brooke_: I hope you are coming to India :) |
05:33 |
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* Brooke_ |
hopes so, too. |
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* druthb |
hopes so, too. |
05:33 |
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kmkale |
:) |
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Brooke_ |
elephant ride = mandatory. |
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kmkale |
hehe. In Thane. That will be a tough one.. |
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druthb |
hee hee |
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Brooke_ |
I'll go into the country |
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* druthb |
finding a beautiful saree = mandatory. |
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kmkale |
Or may be not. There are people who hire for weeings etc. Will find out |
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kmkale |
druthb: thats easy |
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druthb |
:) |
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* Brooke_ |
prolly should have kept one of her mum's... |
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kmkale |
druthb: selecting from the shree variety is the problem |
05:35 |
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kmkale |
my typing is on a whack today |
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druthb |
Oh, looking at sites online, there's an astonishing variety... I know what colors tend to work on me (read as: What I'll wear in public, and what I won't.), which does help narrow things down a bit. |
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Brooke_ |
pfft |
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* druthb |
glares at the peanut gallery. |
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kmkale |
druthb: apart from the colors there are too many types of cloth; silk and what not.. |
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Brooke_ |
girly stuff is gonna put me under |
05:39 |
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druthb |
So I've gathered. Lots of different sorts of embroidery and prints, too. Fun! :D |
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druthb |
pooooor Brooke! |
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* druthb |
watches Brooke_ flee, and just shakes her head. |
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druthb |
I'm gonna head to bed...gotta get my beauty sleep. See ya soon! |
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kf |
good morning #koha :) |
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kf |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. |
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kmkale |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi kmkale :) |
06:56 |
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kf |
congratulation |
06:56 |
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kmkale |
thanks. please book your tickets :) |
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kf |
hehe |
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kmkale |
gotta go. meeting. bbl.. |
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kf |
god morgen magnuse |
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magnuse |
guten morgen kf & #koha |
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magnuse |
bonjour hdl |
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kf |
bonjour hdl |
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hdl |
Bonjour |
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Veera |
hi |
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Veera |
good morning |
08:07 |
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kf |
good morning Veera |
08:07 |
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Veera |
I am from American university in Kuwait |
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magnuse |
hiya Veera |
08:07 |
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Veera |
I need your assistance in some module in koha |
08:08 |
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Veera |
I have recently installed koha live cd 3.2 version |
08:09 |
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Veera |
if you could guide me to setup z39.50 |
08:09 |
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Veera |
as I could not importa data of LOC |
08:09 |
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Veera |
I mean MARC |
08:09 |
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Veera |
please help |
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kf |
Veera: when you go to cataloging > z39.50 search - is loc listed there as a search target? |
08:10 |
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Veera |
yes |
08:10 |
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Veera |
it is listed |
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kf |
and when you search for a word in the title, what message do you get? |
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Veera |
no msg..and no action |
08:11 |
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kf |
are you behind a firefall? |
08:11 |
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Veera |
simple staying inthe same search page |
08:11 |
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Veera |
no |
08:11 |
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Veera |
even our system admin was checking the same |
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kf |
firefall is firewall ... |
08:12 |
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kf |
so nothing happens when you click on search? |
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Veera |
yes |
08:12 |
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kf |
hm |
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Veera |
could you please help in this |
08:12 |
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Veera |
? |
08:12 |
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kf |
it works for me without problems :( |
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magnuse |
me too |
08:13 |
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kf |
I am using a 3.2.2 install |
08:13 |
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Veera |
is there any where we should enable an option |
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magnuse |
Veera: what title did you search for? |
08:13 |
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Veera |
? |
08:13 |
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Veera |
management |
08:14 |
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Veera |
infact, I tried different keywords |
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Veera |
nothing |
08:14 |
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magnuse |
i get lots of results for management |
08:14 |
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magnuse |
hm |
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magnuse |
have you tried other z39.50 targets? |
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Veera |
ya |
08:15 |
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Veera |
I tried |
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Veera |
but the problem is that page has no action |
08:15 |
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Veera |
at all |
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magnuse |
no results for any z39.50 target? |
08:16 |
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Veera |
no |
08:16 |
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rangi |
i think Veera is saying the form doesnt submit |
08:16 |
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rangi |
what browser are you using Veera |
08:16 |
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rangi |
? |
08:17 |
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kf |
hi rangi |
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Veera |
IE |
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Veera |
but the server is mossila |
08:19 |
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Veera |
client is IE |
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rangi |
try with firefox |
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Veera |
the server machine I tried with firebox |
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Veera |
no result |
08:22 |
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Veera |
the same |
08:23 |
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rangi |
i have no more ideas then im afraid, it works fine here also |
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Veera |
is there any place where should we enable some option or something??? |
08:23 |
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rangi |
no |
08:23 |
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kf |
Veera: which language are you using? |
08:23 |
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francharb |
hellp #koha |
08:24 |
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kf |
morning francharb :) |
08:24 |
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francharb |
hi kf |
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* magnuse |
just tested copy cataloguing with IE on Vista and Koha 3.2.2 - the form looked strange but it did return results |
08:27 |
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rangi |
could be something with the live cd set up |
08:28 |
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rangi |
like it might be set to use remote yui, instead of local, and i think yahoo have broken the remote one |
08:28 |
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kf |
makes sense |
08:29 |
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kf |
if she is not using the english templates that sometimes is a good test to - change back to english and test to rule out problems with the translation |
08:29 |
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kf |
but I am not aware of a problem with this template |
08:33 |
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magnuse |
i winder what she meant by "server is mossila"... |
08:39 |
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kf |
perhaps that she has mozilla (firefox) installed on the machine where koha is running? |
08:40 |
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magnuse |
ah, might be |
08:42 |
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paul_p |
hello everybody |
08:46 |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
08:52 |
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kf |
bonjour paul_p |
09:26 |
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rangi |
hi paul_p |
09:27 |
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paul_p |
hi rangi. What's new? good week-end ? |
09:27 |
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* paul_p |
start feeling spring coming in Marseille, and had a thought for NZ this morning, thinking you may feel the autumn coming... |
09:28 |
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paul_p |
@wunder marseille |
09:28 |
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huginn |
paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0�C (10:00 AM CET on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
09:28 |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
09:28 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (10:00 PM NZDT on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
09:28 |
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rangi |
still pretty warm here |
09:30 |
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magnuse |
@wunder bodo, norway |
09:30 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0�C (10:20 AM CET on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
09:32 |
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magnuse |
spring equinox is just one month away - yay! |
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kf |
we got snow overnight |
09:45 |
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kf |
it was very spring like the last few days - I think we all were a bit surprised |
09:45 |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.4�C (10:50 AM CET on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). |
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sekjal |
druthb++ |
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druthb |
sekjal++ |
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kmkale |
any thoughts on making the KohaCon11 site using http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ocs or mediawiki is better? |
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druthb |
kmkale: that has some nice facilities!~ |
12:23 |
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kmkale |
yup |
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kmkale |
never used it though so dont know if it will have flexibility |
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mihafan |
hello world |
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magnuse |
trying out ocs would be cool! |
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magnuse |
hello mihafan |
12:30 |
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mihafan |
I have a problem with ldap authentication |
12:30 |
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mihafan |
Description of problem: On local machine is installed windows server 2003 with configured active directory <nabble_img src="ad_.png" border="0" alt="acive directory"/>, I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on another machine, here I installed Koha 3.0 which still works well. Koha have configured to allow users from Active Directory authenticate via LDAP module in Koha d |
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mihafan |
koha-conf.xml contents: |
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mihafan |
<useldapserver>1</useldapserver> <ldapserver id="ldapserver"> |
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mihafan |
<hostname>192.168.11.90:389</hostname> <!-- address of LDAP server --> |
12:32 |
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mihafan |
<base>dc=koha,dc=md</base> |
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mihafan |
<user>cn=Administrator,cn=Users,dc=koha,dc=md</user> |
12:32 |
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mihafan |
<pass>Q1W2e3r4</pass> |
12:32 |
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mihafan |
<replicate>1</replicate> |
12:32 |
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mihafan |
<update>1</update> |
12:32 |
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mihafan |
<mapping> |
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mihafan |
<firstname is="givenName" ></firstname> <surname is="sn" ></surname> <address is="postalAddress" ></address> <city is="l" ></city> <branchcode is="" >MAIN</branchcode> <userid is="sAMAccountName" >Administrator</userid> <password is="userPassword" ></ |
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mihafan |
When I try to log in OPAC module, only the user administrator can login, other users can not authenticate in opac module. How things should look to enable authentication and other users. |
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* magnuse |
hopes someone who knows something about LDAP can help answer that... |
12:36 |
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mihafan |
anyone know other forums besides kohalists.katipo.co.nz Koha, koha.nabble.com?? |
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mihafan |
no? |
12:45 |
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sekjal |
mihafan: do you have bind_by_auth set? |
12:45 |
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sekjal |
as I recall, it's a required config for Active Directory |
12:45 |
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mihafan |
yes |
12:46 |
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sekjal |
hmmm |
12:47 |
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mihafan |
user can authenticate in koha via ldap module |
12:47 |
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mihafan |
active directory is a ldap server where exists a user accounts |
12:49 |
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mihafan |
and user must be authentificate in koha with account and password that exists in Active Directory |
12:57 |
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mihafan |
does know how to make authenticate for other user, without Administrator |
12:57 |
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mihafan |
???? |
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sekjal |
perhaps take "Administrator" out of the <user> tag in the mapping |
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mihafan |
but what about the rest of the users in active directory are they just control the Administrator, would still have to log in Koha OPAC |
13:04 |
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tcohen |
hi #koha |
13:04 |
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tcohen |
i recently posted on koha-devel about adding authority edition logging |
13:05 |
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tcohen |
i didn't have any feedback |
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tcohen |
has anyone thought about it |
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mihafan |
here is active directory conf http://www.mediafire.com/?8iiuwd2kp8ypssy |
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mihafan |
print screen |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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sekjal |
morning, jcamins |
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kf |
hi sekjal and jcamins :) |
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kf |
marcelr++ |
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sekjal |
hi, kf! |
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NateC |
good morning #koha |
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hdl |
hi all |
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kf |
hi NateC |
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NateC |
hiya kf |
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tcohen |
hi hdl, jcamins |
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NateC |
hi hdl |
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* jcamins |
waves at everyone on #koha |
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* magnuse |
too |
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hdl |
@later tell thd The invariant number of results is fixed. It was owed to a bad Regexp::Grammars version (it was a bit old on the machine you tested). I have added a z3950 configuration file. Should be better now. We are still struggling with the bad MARC.... |
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huginn |
hdl: The operation succeeded. |
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kmkale |
i did a "git rm on installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl" by mistake. How do I get that file from the origin repository? |
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jcamins |
How do I force git to either ignore file permissions or reset them? |
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jcamins |
kmkale: I think you can do a git revert, can't you? |
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kmkale |
jcamins: will that revert in anyway hurt my work in progress? |
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* kmkale |
is afraid of git :( |
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jcamins |
kmkale: I'm not sure. |
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jcamins |
Probably better not to risk it. If you say gmcharlt's name three times in a row, though, sometimes he appears and solves everyone's git problems. :) |
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kmkale |
:) |
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kmkale: could a git add work? |
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sekjal_away |
git checkout installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
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kf |
ah, sekjal :) |
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kmkale |
error: pathspec 'installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
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sekjal_away |
hmmm |
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kmkale: git checkout HEAD -- installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
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kmkale |
jcamins: rror: pathspec 'installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.p' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
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kmkale |
sorry jcamins that should be "error: pathspec 'installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl' did not match any file(s) known to git." |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Uh-oh. I just made my entire git repository unreadable. |
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oh no |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: oh no? |
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wizzyrea |
re: your git repo |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: oh, I got it straightened out. |
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jcamins |
I do have something "oh no"-worthy to report, though. |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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jcamins |
My chair just broke. |
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wizzyrea |
.... |
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wizzyrea |
did you fall down? |
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jcamins |
Not all the way. |
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But I leaned back, and when my back hit the back of the chair, both backs kept going. |
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jcamins |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
....... |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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wizzyrea |
that's alarming for a monday |
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jcamins |
I knew it was coming. I noticed last week that there was something off about my chair. |
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wizzyrea |
can anyone explain to me the rationale behind the z39.50 button on the bib detail page? |
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wizzyrea |
what is a use case for that? |
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jcamins |
z39.50 button on the bib detail page? |
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* jcamins |
goes to look for it. |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/MSFSaWhqkcCf |
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jcamins |
I don't think I ever noticed that before. |
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jcamins |
Overlaying? |
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is glad she has no incriminating tabs open |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I'm wondering |
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wizzyrea |
if you click it, it populates the search with the current title/isbn |
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wizzyrea |
i just wondered what people actually use that for |
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* jcamins |
doesn't use it at all. |
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* wizzyrea |
has had it hidden from our librarians for a long time |
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jcamins |
Anyone have any idea where "summary" comes from on the OPAC results template? |
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jcamins |
It's not set. |
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jcamins |
So why is it populated? |
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jcamins |
Okay, I think it comes from search.pm. |
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hmm where are we keeping the circ rules in the db these days? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: branch_borrower_rules and branch_item_rules? |
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wizzyrea |
Ah thanks, will look |
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wizzyrea |
koha_circ_rules++ |
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jcamins |
Oops, I forgot issuingrules. |
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jcamins |
You need all three. |
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hi #koha |
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wizzyrea |
hey cait |
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nengard |
git question for any git experts on - how do i 'stop' git am: It looks like git-am is in progress. Cannot rebase. |
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jcamins |
git am --abort? |
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cait |
git am --abort |
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cait |
not sure |
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cait |
but I did it before |
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cait |
ah, jcmains said the same |
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jcamins |
I've never done it, I just think that's how I would. |
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cait |
and hi liz |
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cait |
:) |
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hdl |
nengard: if you want to be able to edit the code to make it pass... git am -3 |
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hdl |
then you edit the conflict |
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hdl |
And you commit |
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nengard |
thanks all |
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nengard |
got it going again |
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mib_d05vwu |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, mib_d05vwu |
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mib_d05vwu |
i have a question |
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mib_d05vwu |
about autobarcode |
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mib_d05vwu |
hi |
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mib_d05vwu |
hi i have a question about autobarcode |
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jcamins |
mib_d05vwu: go ahead and ask. |
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jcamins |
Anyone who can help you will. |
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mib_d05vwu |
ok |
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mib_d05vwu |
thnaks |
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jcamins |
Also, you may want to change your nick to something more typable. ;) |
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mib_d05vwu |
i have my koha autobarcode in incremental |
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mib_d05vwu |
but only generates 4 number |
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mib_d05vwu |
i need 6 |
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mib_d05vwu |
how I can do to generate 6 |
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New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 5776 - menu on funds wraps when only 1 fund <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]544a7ad71dd4f174b> / Bug 5741 - Extra comma causes JavaScript error in Internet Explorer <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9c86817a302f1b765> / Bug 5777 Update and install syspref tab titles <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
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mib_d05vwu |
?? |
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jcamins |
mib_d05vwu: I don't know much about the autobarcode code. |
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mib_d05vwu |
this generates 4 number |
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mib_d05vwu |
i need 6 |
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mib_d05vwu |
:( |
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jcamins |
chris_n might know the answer. |
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jcamins |
I don't think he's around at the moment. |
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mib_d05vwu |
ok |
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mib_d05vwu |
thanks |
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mib_d05vwu |
i wait |
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cait |
mib_d05vwu: there is no way in configuration at the moment to change the length of the autobarcode feature |
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cait |
hm, I wonder what would happen when you add a longer barcode - if it would count from that perhaps |
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mib_d05vwu |
mm...whare? |
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mib_d05vwu |
where? |
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mib_d05vwu |
i think the same.. |
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mib_d05vwu |
but where? |
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mib_d05vwu |
cait, where i add a longer barcode |
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cait |
I would try and just add a new item with a longer barcode |
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cait |
but not sure what will happen - probably won't work |
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mib_d05vwu |
ok |
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hdl |
gmcharlt: around ? |
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mib_d05vwu |
yes its work |
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mib_d05vwu |
:) |
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mib_d05vwu |
add a loger barcode... |
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mib_d05vwu |
and now this incremental from this |
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mib_d05vwu |
cait other question... |
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nengard |
screencast time - will log back in when done :) |
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cait |
ah cool :) |
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mib_d05vwu |
yes |
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mib_d05vwu |
other question...why dont show me a renewal date? |
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mib_d05vwu |
appears in blank |
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jcamins |
mib_d05vwu: you probably shouldn't be editing items that are already checked out. |
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mib_d05vwu |
mmm.. i dont und.... |
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jcamins |
mib_d05vwu: what are you trying to do? |
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mib_d05vwu |
ok |
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cait |
you want to renew an item that is checked out? |
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mib_d05vwu |
i lend a book |
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mib_d05vwu |
this show me a return date |
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mib_d05vwu |
but....if i do a renewal of this book |
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mib_d05vwu |
the same book... |
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mib_d05vwu |
dont show me retun date |
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cait |
you renewed successfully but the date didn't change? |
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mib_d05vwu |
appears in blank |
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cait |
that's ok |
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cait |
the due date field is only there to set a different date than the one calculated from your loan rules |
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mib_d05vwu |
yes, appears in blanck |
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mib_d05vwu |
:( |
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jcamins |
mib_d05vwu: yes, it's supposed to be blank. |
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mib_d05vwu |
if not then return the book |
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cait |
normally a book will be renewed for the time you set as loan period in your circ matrix under administration |
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cait |
if you want to renew it to a specific date you can enter one in the field |
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mib_d05vwu |
yes i know that... |
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mib_d05vwu |
but dont show me nothind |
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cait |
there are different options for the calculation of a renewal - you can add it to the date due or it can be calculated from the current date |
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jcamins |
mib_d05vwu: maybe you could take a screenshot and show us what you're talking about? |
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cait |
if you renew and the date does not change, and the book was checked out today, it's probably calculated form today |
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mib_d05vwu |
the problem is that dont show me return date, when i renewal |
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mib_d05vwu |
ok |
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mib_d05vwu |
screenshot |
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mib_d05vwu |
how add a screenshot? |
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rangi |
Morning |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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cait |
can you upload the pic somewhere? |
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mib_d05vwu |
http://mibpaste.com/J8xEpe |
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mib_d05vwu |
http://miburl.com/NeaL6Q |
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bg |
morning |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
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cait |
morning bg |
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jcamins |
mib_d05vwu: http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]easy-screenshots/ |
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mib_d05vwu |
ok |
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druthb |
howdy, #koha! Showing the Erikson Institute the IRC! :) New Koha library! |
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wizzy_lunch |
Hi peeps :) |
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rangi |
Hi erikson institute |
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rangi |
Ata marie from aotearoa |
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bg |
hi there |
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wahanui |
privet, bg |
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bg |
privet? |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on February 22, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 14.0�C (10:50 AM PST on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder chicago, IL |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Chicago, Illinois is -1.6�C (12:51 PM CST on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.17 in 987.7 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Tuesday... |
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rangi |
bg: the bot speaks a few languages |
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* rangi |
wins |
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bg |
yup rangi wins |
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druthb |
wahanui: druthb? |
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wahanui |
i heard druthb was quite possibly insane, but she fits right in at ByWater Solutions, because of it. |
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rangi |
Excuse |
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druthb |
documentation? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
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rangi |
wahanui: excuse |
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wahanui |
rangi: terrorist activities |
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rangi |
I'm not sure that one will fly wahanui |
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rangi |
wahanui: excuse |
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wahanui |
rangi: Police are examining all internet packets in the search for a narco-net-trafficker |
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druthb |
@karma |
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huginn |
druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (236), "oleonard" (235), and "gmcharlt" (216). Lowest karma: "<!" (-88), "failed" (-49), and "-" (-34). You (druthb) are ranked 12 out of 1234. |
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rangi |
There we go |
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rangi |
@marc 510 |
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huginn |
rangi: Citations or references to published bibliographic descriptions, reviews, abstracts, or indexes of the content of the described item. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,x,3,6,8] |
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rangi |
Sadly I knew that |
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* cait |
waves to druthb and the ericson institute |
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druthb |
you're a geek, rangi, but we love you. |
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* druthb |
waves to cait. |
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jcamins |
rangi: but do you know what the second indicator should be? |
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cait |
undef? *guesses* |
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rangi |
jcamins: msdiaf? |
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jcamins |
msdiaf? |
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jcamins |
cait: yeah. |
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cait |
hehe |
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jcamins |
Lots of people get the first and second idicators confused on that one. |
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jcamins |
I see lots of records that are _4 instead of 4_. |
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druthb |
I'm hoping that Erikson will jump in with us some. Thanx for the greets n stuff. Back to ye old grindstone. See y'all this evening. |
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jcamins |
If I were to copy all the files in var/lib/zebradb from one machine to another, would that work? |
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rangi |
maybe |
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rangi |
but i wouldnt bet money on it |
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jcamins |
Phooey. |
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jcamins |
So far as I can figure out, my setup is now identical to this one client's, but they continue to have all sorts of problems that I can't duplicate. |
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rangi |
man i hope thats not that guys real ad admin password |
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jcamins |
rangi: what? |
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rangi |
posted to the list, and in here |
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rangi |
i was gonna scour the logs of it |
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jcamins |
Huh? |
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rangi |
but its out there now |
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jcamins |
Yes, that's a good idea. |
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rangi |
check the koha ldap authentification |
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rangi |
thread |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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jcamins |
Ouch. |
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rangi |
no point scouring the logs, hes posted to a list that is archived all over the place |
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* rangi |
emails to tell him to change the password now |
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jcamins |
Probably wise. |
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rangi |
hi nengard |
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nengard |
hiya |
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nengard |
just finished two more tutorial videos |
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nengard |
waiting for them to convert to the right format so i can upload them |
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jcamins |
nengard++ |
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jcamins |
@karma nengard |
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huginn |
jcamins: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 143 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 143. |
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nengard |
other video ideas from the crowd? Here's what we have so far (not counting today's): http://bywatersolutions.blip.tv |
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jcamins |
Reports. |
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nengard |
that's one i did today :) |
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jcamins |
nengard: then no. |
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nengard |
:) |
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cait |
override renewals? |
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cait |
had to explain tht a lot of times |
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cait |
but it's probably already there :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit32: Translation update for 3.2.4 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b47b9bbbd78ff6590> / Revert "Partial fix for Bug 5745, Overdues with fines report not showing titles" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b513008696726ce0> / Revert "Bug 5759 : displaying 2nd email if there is one on print template for borrowers" <http:// |
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nengard |
cait, no i don't think i did that one |
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nengard |
i'll add that to my list |
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nengard |
since it's kind of hard to find (i agree) |
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jcamins |
Bug 5785 - anyone else encountered that? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5785 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Holds should catch new acquisitions |
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cait |
nengard: cool :) |
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nengard |
logging off to record cait's suggestion |
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nengard |
be back in 30 min or so |
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hiya NateC |
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NateC |
hiya magnuse |
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rangi |
heya NateC |
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NateC |
Hi rangi! |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_3550' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]670af0fdde431d9c2> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_2742' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc43b4df095aee583> / Bug 3550 : Display changes needed in opac-results-grouped too <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? |
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nengard |
just for cait: http://bywatersolutions.blip.tv/file/4795079/ |
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cait |
nengard++ |
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cait |
thx :) |
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magnuse |
lucky cait (and us) |
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nengard |
no prob!! |
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nengard |
I'm up for more ideas |
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nengard |
I promised a video a week and I'm running out of ideas of my own :) |
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magnuse |
and it's just monday?!? ;-) |
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magnuse |
hiya wizzyrea! |
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wizzyrea |
hi :) |
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wizzyrea |
What is funny about this table? |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/vfQLWYzQW |
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cait |
hm have seen that before |
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cait |
is it anew install? |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
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wizzyrea |
err |
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wizzyrea |
define "new" |
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cait |
I think my problem was related to miss one of the optional things during install |
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wizzyrea |
did I install it today? no. Is it running (nearly) the newest codebase? yes. |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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cait |
one of the messaging somethings you can choose |
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wizzyrea |
it's like this in at least two installs |
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* wizzyrea |
goes to check the demos |
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cait |
ok, no idea then |
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bencahill |
so guys, everything is in the db, right? (e.g. if I want to start from scratch, backup, or restore from a backup, that's just the db?) |
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wizzyrea |
hm it's right in the bywater demo |
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rangi |
bencahill: yes |
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liw |
bencahill, there's configuration files too |
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wizzyrea |
it's about 9db revisions back from where I'm at |
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bencahill |
ah right, but that's just the koha-conf.xml? (and koha-httpd.conf, depending on your setup) |
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bencahill |
liw: ^^ |
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rangi |
the zebra config files too |
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bencahill |
rangi: good, just checking :) |
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bencahill |
rangi: right |
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cait |
bencahill: if you don't change the indexing, have a sip server or ldap :) |
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bencahill |
cait: well yeah, just setting up a very basic install here :) |
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* bencahill |
loves open source support :D |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea: head.bibkat.no is up to date as of right now - login: demo/demo |
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wizzyrea |
oo ty magnuse |
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wizzyrea |
very ty, it's not wonky in yours |
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magnuse |
cool, i guess... |
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wizzyrea |
that just means it's something I've got going in ours |
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wizzyrea |
bc I have it in two installs |
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wizzyrea |
the problem |
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wahanui |
the problem is, like, that on order is not treated differently than the other not for loan values |
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wizzyrea |
forget the problem |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot problem |
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* magnuse |
wishes it was always that easy... ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
me too |
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wizzyrea |
magnuse++ |
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cait |
magnuse++ |
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wizzyrea |
thanks for updating your demo, really helpful :) |
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magnuse |
thanks, no problem (i try to keep it up to date almost on a daily basis anyway...) |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea: could your table trouble be related to bug 5765? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5765 trivial, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, patron messaging form template tests for SMS inconsistently |
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wizzyrea |
ooooo |
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wizzyrea |
yes, that has to be it |
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wizzyrea |
and there's no way to nullify that table |
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wizzyrea |
syspref |
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wizzyrea |
ty ty for finding that |
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wizzyrea |
magnuse++ again |
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magnuse |
ooh, thanks again - i had this nagging feeling it sounded kind of familiar |
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wizzyrea |
so |
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wizzyrea |
could it be that even if there's nothing there |
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wizzyrea |
nothing in that syspref |
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wizzyrea |
if something was *ever* in there |
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wizzyrea |
it might be broken |
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wizzyrea |
even like, a space |
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wizzyrea |
magnuse: you are a genius |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: oh, that's fixed |
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sekjal |
that screen image you showed |
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wizzyrea |
not in my test install it's not |
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wizzyrea |
:/ |
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wizzyrea |
db18 |
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wizzyrea |
3.03 |
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sekjal |
bump to 19 |
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wizzyrea |
srs, lol |
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wizzyrea |
k |
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sekjal |
fix was put out just a couple days ago |
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wizzyrea |
cool beans :) |
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sekjal |
the SMS bug shown above was a side-effect bug from trying to solve it |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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wizzyrea |
what I did, for now |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea: hardly... but it goes to show skimming through all those bug reports is not a total waste of time... ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
i just added something that looks like a driver so that the table looks pretty. It won't go into production that way |
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wizzyrea |
but very good to know that the fix is in |
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magnuse |
fixed_bugs++ |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal++ for helpful, timely info |
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sekjal |
:) |
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sekjal |
just found that the fix for 3319 breaks the previous work on 4945... but that's easy to patch, too |
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wizzyrea |
bug 3319 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3319 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Need a nicer error message when attempting to add a patron with no libraries defined |
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wizzyrea |
bug 4945 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4945 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library |
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wizzyrea |
the 2nd way more important than the 1st |
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wizzyrea |
but happy it's ez to fix |
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sekjal |
repeated variable name |
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wizzyrea |
oops |
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cait |
good night all |
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wizzyrea |
gnite cait |
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bg |
hey JesseM |
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wizzyrea |
hi JesseM |
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JesseM |
hello all |
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NateC |
Hi Everyone, I would love to introduce the newest member of the ByWater Team, Jesse Maseto |
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wizzyrea |
Oo! Hi there! |
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wizzyrea |
welcome :) |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/veNtGShW at one point I had that column hidden with jquery, but for the life of me I can't nuke it again |
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JesseM |
thank you wizzyrea |
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rangi |
hi JesseM |
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JesseM |
great to be a part of the Koha community. cant wait to work with you all. |
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JesseM |
hello rangi |
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* jcamins |
waves to his new coworker. |
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jcamins |
Has anyone else experienced an item with a NULL homebranch breaking the fines cron job? |
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nengard |
Hi JesseM |
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rangi |
nope, but i can imagine it would, having a null homebranch seems like a pretty bad situation for an item to be in, id hope it would break stuff or at least yell loudly so it can be put in a branch, rather than silently failing |
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JesseM |
Hi nengard |
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jcamins |
rangi: it breaks stuff, silently. |
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space_librarian |
like an evil ninja? |
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rangi |
cron doesnt even complain? |
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jcamins |
rangi: sometimes. |
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rangi |
well that should be fixed to complain all the time loudly then :) |
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jcamins |
It seems to me that the fines cron job is the wrong place to complain, though. |
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jcamins |
It should be complaining at the point when the record enters into the system. |
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rangi |
there too |
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rangi |
but ppl can poke at the db, it should complain anywhere that it might be a problem |
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jcamins |
I mean, sure, an error message there too, but a vendor should not be able to send invalid records. |
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rangi |
exception handling ftw |
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rangi |
yep, bulkmarcimport.pl will complain |
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wizzyrea |
the bib merging function: does or does not (or is or is not supposed to) merge holds? |
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* magnuse |
greets JesseM (better late than never...) |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: you'll need to ask biblibre |
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wizzyrea |
okies |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I think there's a bug report about that. |
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* space_librarian |
joins magnuse in late greetings |
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JesseM |
thank you magnuse! |
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wizzyrea |
you are right: bug 5459 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, merging records loses holds from one |
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sekjal |
the biggest technical problem with that is how to order the holds queue once the two records are merged |
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wizzyrea |
right, i imagine that's tough |
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wizzyrea |
what might help would be an option to "export hold queue" from a bib |
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wizzyrea |
so at least you have a list of the holds |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose you could just print the dang thing :P |
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sekjal |
ordering by date placed would make the most sense most of the time, but there'd need to be a warning |
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sekjal |
in case of any manual reordering having taken place |
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wizzyrea |
add a note: automerge? |
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wizzyrea |
or merged from position x on bib XXXXX |
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sekjal |
could do |
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sekjal |
so long as it added to any existing note, rather than replaced |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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sekjal |
I've got some code that'll fix priority orders.... so doing it this way won't take too much more |
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wizzyrea |
I can't think of any reason why adding a note with the old priority wouldn't be sufficient. If you have a bib with a ton of manual edits, it's probably better to not automerge them anyway |
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sekjal |
perhaps a 'select all holds from both bibs', 'order by date created', 'loop through and add to kept biblio' approach |
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wizzyrea |
a tickbox "merge holds? (Warning: holds will be ordered based upon date placed. Old priority number will be in the notes" |
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sekjal |
even techier: zipper merge. alternate between holds on each biblio, 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,5,6 |
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sekjal |
add a checkbox for the merger to pick their strategy |
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sekjal |
then we can implement more down the road, if need be |
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wizzyrea |
well that's better than no merge at all |
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* jcamins |
imagines all sorts of interesting possibilities for complex merges. |
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sekjal |
looking forward to diving into this, but unfortunately, I must depart, and pack for my trip to Maine |
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sekjal |
have a great night, #koha! |
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wizzyrea |
by... oh bother. |
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wizzyrea |
a stopgap for that though, since we should *never* lose data |
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wizzyrea |
would be to spit out the un-merged holds as an error. |
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wizzyrea |
"This item had holds on it, here's what we know about them so you can merge: " |
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* magnuse |
wishes #koha a good night (or other time of the day - you choose!) |
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wizzyrea |
so philosophically speaking |
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wizzyrea |
should we assume that if you are deleting a bib record |
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wizzyrea |
that you don't care about any holds attached to that bib? |
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wizzyrea |
also, if you are deleting the last item, should you be alerted that there are still holds on the item? |
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rangi |
no and yes |
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rangi |
assumption is the mother of all f**k ups |
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wizzyrea |
ok cool that's the direction I was leaning |
21:32 |
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wizzyrea |
because right, now, we do both |
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rangi |
yes |
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wizzyrea |
we assume that you don't care, and we don't alert |
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rangi |
yep, its a definite bug that should be fixed |
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* wizzyrea |
goes to file it |
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rangi |
we check for issues, but not holds |
21:33 |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: add subscriptions to the list |
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rangi |
we need to check those too |
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wizzyrea |
k |
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rangi |
deleting a biblio tht has a journal subscription attached can make a big pile of mess |
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jcamins |
Bleck. |
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wizzyrea |
bug 1959 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1959 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, No warning when you delete a biblio with a subscription |
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jcamins |
The exterminator went to Manhattan instead of coming here. |
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jcamins |
Meaning that we emptied our kitchen for naught. |
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wizzyrea |
so that's there. |
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nengard |
so basically we should never ever delete bib records |
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rangi |
not until those bugs are fixed, no |
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wizzyrea |
or you have to be super-vigilant |
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wizzyrea |
about checking before you delete |
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wizzyrea |
:/ |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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jcamins |
Dinner time. |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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wizzyrea |
bug 5790 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5790 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Deleting a biblio should alert/fail if there are existent subscriptions and holds |
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rangi |
make sure you link 1959 to that |
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wizzyrea |
oh yes good point ty |
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wizzyrea |
bug 1959 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1959 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, No warning when you delete a biblio with a subscription |
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wizzyrea |
sorry bw peeps for all the mail :P |
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wizzyrea |
I was only adding a CC! |
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nengard |
no prob |
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rangi |
were you gonna link the 2 bugs? |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
did I do it wrong? |
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rangi |
i use the depends or blocks links |
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wizzyrea |
ohh... I added the "see also" url |
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rangi |
i made 5790 depend on 1959 |
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wizzyrea |
ok I see what you mean no |
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wizzyrea |
now* |
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wizzyrea |
can't say I've ever had to do that one before... I'll know better next time |
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rangi |
cool :) |
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eythian |
I really want to find whoever implemented liberty/concordance's CSV export and give them a good ... talking to. |
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eythian |
they output unparsable data :( |
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wizzyrea |
it seems like you may want to give them more than that |
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identify |
@wunder 56001 |
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huginn |
identify: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is -6.2�C (4:49 PM CST on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -11.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 PM CST this evening... |
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wizzyrea |
brr |
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bencahill |
would squid speed up koha (on a slow-ish server)? |
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rangi |
not really no |
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eythian |
I wouldn't expect it to a whole lot |
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bencahill |
...(bottleneck is cpu) |
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rangi |
because you cant actually cache the results |
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rangi |
not unless you want to lie to patrons ;) |
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bencahill |
rangi: anything I can do to make it go faster? |
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bencahill |
rangi: lol :) |
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eythian |
more CPU :) |
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rangi |
bencahill: put the expires headers out on the .css .js and image files |
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bencahill |
eythian: doesn't seem like it should be that slow on a p4 1.6 tho, right? :P |
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bencahill |
rangi: not slow like that, I'm on a lan :D |
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eythian |
hmm, probably shouldn't be. Is it really CPU, or is it database? |
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rangi |
its more likely ram thats the bottleneck that cpu |
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eythian |
(or RAM, yeah) |
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bencahill |
eythian: dunno, top shows the .pl scripts taking up 90-100% cpu during a pageload |
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bencahill |
rangi, eythian: not using any swap... |
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rangi |
yeah, that doesnt really matter (the swap) |
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rangi |
its how much RAM mysql can use |
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rangi |
it wont use more than you allocate it |
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eythian |
but if it's the .pl using the CPU, rather than mysql... |
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bencahill |
rangi: well the ram is not anywhere near filled up (like 200MB out of 600MB), that's what I'm saying |
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bencahill |
rangi: o_o d'oh :) |
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bencahill |
eythian: yeah, the .pl's |
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rangi |
and yeah 600MB is a tiny amount of RAM :) |
22:51 |
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rangi |
top is not a good indicator |
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bencahill |
rangi: depends on your usage scenario :) |
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bencahill |
rangi: why is that? |
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bencahill |
doesn't show disk usage? |
22:52 |
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rangi |
because it will sit at 90% when its mostly asking mysql to do stuff |
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eythian |
rangi: it shouldn't... |
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rangi |
it does |
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eythian |
unless the driver is spinlocking or something terrible |
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bencahill |
rangi: what do you use that's better? |
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rangi |
use the profiler |
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bencahill |
the profiler? |
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rangi |
and yeah 600MB is too little to run apache, mysql, zebra |
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bencahill |
not running zebra... |
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rangi |
well theres half your problem right there then too :) |
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rangi |
nozebra is much slower |
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bencahill |
rangi: zebra doesn't affect browsing the admin interface, does it? |
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bencahill |
I thought it was just searching... |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
and yeah if browsing the interface isnt coming up within seconds, theres something up, and chances are its mysql, because browsing the interface isnt doing anything else |
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* bencahill |
times |
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rangi |
a bunch of selects, and outputting a template |
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bencahill |
5 seconds for going from home to circulation after login |
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bencahill |
rangi: right, shouldn't take that long :P |
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rangi |
try tuning your mysql |
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bencahill |
will do, thanks |
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rangi |
and fyi http://search.cpan.org/dist/Devel-NYTProf/ |
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rangi |
also, what XML parser are you using? |
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@wunder Chicago, IL |
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druthb: The current temperature in Chicago, Illinois is -2.3�C (5:43 PM CST on February 21, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.25 in 990.4 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am CST Tuesday... |
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at least the sleet stopped. for now. |
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bg |
heya druthb |
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druthb |
hi, bg! |
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druthb |
just popping in a bit before dinner with a really great library director, then down to a mess of nitty-gritty tonight. |
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bg |
enjoy |
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rangi |
crap |
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rangi |
another earthquake |