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hi Brooke |
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salutes Chris. |
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Koha: oleonard new/bug_5650 * rv3.02.00-592-gb69ad9d / (4 files in 2 dirs): Fix for Bug 5650, item type page key wrong |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5650 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, item type page key wrong |
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Koha: jcharaoui kcmaster * rv3.02.00-593-g1fc16ea /misc/translator/LangInstaller.pm: Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations in standard installs |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5506 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Translation Process Simplification |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations in standard installs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e6493249d4e700f7> / Fix for Bug 5650, item type page key wrong <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50b1ea62f228f3f2a> |
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Starting build 321 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #319 1 day 0 hr ago) |
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Koha: chrisc kcmaster * rv3.02.00-594-g7d87094 /docs/history.txt: History updated |
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New commit(s) kohagit: History updated <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e10509b2ef5416de> |
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Koha: chrisc kcmaster * rv3.02.00-595-g7f47715 /docs/history.txt: Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49efad03dde67fdbb> |
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Yippie, build fixed! |
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Project Koha_Master build #321: FIXED in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/321/ |
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* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5650, item type page key wrong |
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* Jerome Charaoui: Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations in standard installs |
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* Chris Cormack: History updated |
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* Chris Cormack: Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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chris |
heya kf |
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hi chris |
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kf |
guten morgen magnus :) |
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magnus |
god morgen, kf! |
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kf |
are you back now? |
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magnus |
nope, i'm in Drammen today, the town where i grew up - then two days of conference in oslo (to talk for 15 minutes about why MARC must die...) and *then* home ;-) |
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chris |
how did your presentation go? |
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* kf |
waves to jransom |
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magnus |
hiya jransom! |
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magnus |
chris: didn't get time to do the presentation |
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magnus |
but i did get to talk to some finns and swedes about koha - there seems to be quite a bit of interest in both countres |
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magnus |
the finns have one or maybe two projects that are going to look at koha, i'm gonna investigate further |
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jransom |
hiya all |
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magnus |
wassup, jransom! |
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kf |
jransom: your blog post confused me! :) |
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chris |
magnus: good news |
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* wasabi |
o |
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magnus |
chris: yup - they have almost a monopoly situation i think, at least for public libraries, and some of them are quite eager to look for alternatives, i think |
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* magnus |
o/ |
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wasabi |
o/ \o |
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wasabi |
high-five! |
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magnus |
hehe |
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jransom |
yeah i know - i was a week early :D |
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jransom |
it confused Chris too |
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kf |
and I was not awake :) |
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wasabi |
magnus: sounds like some nice opportunities for you, over there.... |
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magnus |
wasabi - might be, i'm keeping my eyes open... ;-) |
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smiles at wasabi |
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wasabi |
heya jo |
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wasabi |
chris: fyi, i still need to add the db-update bit, to my ratings code,,, |
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wasabi |
i forgot that bit.., :0 |
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wasabi |
but 1st, some food :) |
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magnus |
would that be the star ratings? |
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wasabi |
yeah, that stuff |
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magnus |
cool! |
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wasabi |
https://github.com/KohaAloha/k[…]e/3.02.03-ratings |
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wasabi |
if you're curious, etc… |
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jransom |
good night all - i'm off to bed |
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kf |
good night jo |
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magnus |
@wunder drammen, norway |
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magnus: The current temperature in Drammen, Norway is -5.8�C (11:35 AM CET on January 26, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Steady). |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.2�C (11:35 AM CET on January 26, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady). |
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paul_p |
hello #koha waiting for my plane at Lille airport to go back home |
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paul_p |
(lille = far north of france, marseille far south !) |
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jwagner |
Hope you're having better travel weather than we are, today. Safe travels! |
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kf |
paul_p: safe travels |
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paul_p |
hello kf ! |
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paul_p |
I've time, my plane is in 4 hours. Working at a comfortable desk, with powerplug, 3G internet, |
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kmkale |
hi kf |
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kmkale |
hi paul_p |
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kf |
hi kmkale :) |
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kf |
paul_p: at the airport? wow .) |
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kmkale |
busy? |
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paul_p |
kf yep, it's a small airport, with 25 planes per day, maybe 30. So only a few ppl, only 8 sits on a desk, but only 1 person atm : me :D |
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kf |
:) |
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druthb |
I like those small airports--the one where I used to live ran about 5-10 airplanes a day, but had free wifi and (in the mornings) free coffee and juice and donuts. :) |
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kmkale |
hi druthb |
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ebegin |
@wunder montreal, quebec |
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ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -13.0�C (8:27 AM EST on January 26, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -21.0�C. Pressure: (Falling). |
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druthb |
hi, kmkale. |
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paul_p |
wow, -13°C ! |
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@wunder lille, france |
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paul_p: The current temperature in Lille, France is 5.0�C (2:30 PM CET on January 26, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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paul_p |
better ;-) |
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kf |
oh, the problem irakli describes on the list would explain a problem we have seen with broken umlauts in callnumbers |
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ebegin |
paul_p, we got a -27 earlier this week... |
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paul_p |
brrr... I prefer +27, no doubts ! |
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ebegin |
Me too :) |
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ebegin |
brb |
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briceSanc |
hello all ! |
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briceSanc |
I've a problem: I have a user with catalogue,acquisition,serials and reports permissions. He is unable to change the budget in the page /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/neworderempty.pl?booksellerid=1&basketno=26&biblionumber=2 |
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sekjal |
kf: your new bug, 5659. I think I've figured that one out, if its the same underlying cause as bug 3577 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3577 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Barcode.pl does not cater variable length branch codes in hbyymmincr format |
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briceSanc |
Everytime, koha show a dialog : Name of the library (Set) | systech2 (Log Out) | [ ? ] |
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briceSanc |
I think there is a permission problem !? |
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cirbic |
hello everybody |
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cirbic |
greetings from spain |
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cirbic |
i´m a new librarian user of KOHA |
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kf |
sekjal: that's great |
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cirbic |
can I make some questions to you? |
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cirbic |
i feel i´m lost in something |
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kf |
hi cirbic - greetings from Germany .) |
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cirbic |
somethings |
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sekjal |
cirbic: please do |
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cirbic |
thx |
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sekjal |
kf: would you be willing to test my patch? |
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kf |
sekjal: our branch codes are the ISILs in all branches, so we have alphanumeric with hyphens |
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kf |
sekjal: of couse, send it along |
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sekjal |
kf: what address is best? |
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kf |
send to my work mail |
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sekjal |
kf: gotcha |
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Barrc |
Hello - A quick question regarding 3.2. Is it possible to restrict certain tag being shown until a user logs into OPAC. Say, an 856 tag link that the site don't want viewable to the public, only to authenticated users? |
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sekjal |
Barrc: not at this time... but it could be developed |
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Barrc |
Pitty - does it sound like an easy thing to develop? I might give it a bash myself! |
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sekjal |
Barrc: it's not trivial, but one way would be to have two different XSLT displays for the OPAC, one for logged in users, the other for the general public |
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sekjal |
this could be part of a larger development that allows the library to upload their own XSLTs |
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cirbic |
i work here www.psa.es |
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cirbic |
and i work in a specialised library |
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cirbic |
before koha I used Microsoft Access |
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Barrc |
sekal: I see. OK, I will take a tentitave look and see how it hangs together....thanks |
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cirbic |
but now We have made a new building for the Library |
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cirbic |
and now there are 5 consulting computers |
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cirbic |
so we´ve decide to try KOHA |
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cirbic |
(before there was not any OPAC) |
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cirbic |
well, its possible only to catalog with some fields? |
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cirbic |
or better said |
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kf |
cirbic: please write koha or Koha - the upper case version is a red flag for some of us ;) |
| 14:45 |
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cirbic |
Is it possible to catalog without using any MARC format? |
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cirbic |
only author, title, etc |
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kf |
cirbic: you will always have marc in the database, but you can only use a few fields |
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cirbic |
I´ve got a database with 1841 items but the database is not in Marc format |
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kf |
cirbic: you can limit to author, title and such and not work with authorities |
| 14:47 |
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kf |
filling in some of the coded fields makes sense though - for example the search for publication year needs a year in one of those fields |
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cirbic |
as I used Microsoft Access I made myself database: register number, title, author, edition, etc |
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cirbic |
I have made a new MARC Framework |
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cirbic |
and tried to delete fields I don´t need |
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cirbic |
but there are a lot of fields |
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cirbic |
is that the way I´ve to do it?= |
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cirbic |
? |
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wizzyrea |
I wonder if the sample data's fast add framework would help you cirbic? |
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wizzyrea |
it's pretty stripped down |
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cirbic |
and where is that framework? |
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wizzyrea |
it might be easier to add what you need to it rather than take away what you don't need |
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* magnus |
was just thinking the same thing ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
when you ran the web installer for koha you would have seen an option to install it |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't know how you would go about adding it after the fact |
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cirbic |
mmmmm |
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briceSanc |
I've a permission problem: I have a user with catalogue,acquisition,serials and reports permissions. He is unable to change the budget in the page /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/neworderempty.pl?booksellerid=1&basketno=26&biblionumber=2 .Everytime, koha show a dialog : Name of the library (Set) | systech2 (Log Out) | [ ? ] |
| 14:53 |
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cirbic |
I´ve to ask to computer department |
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briceSanc |
(2nd try :D) |
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cirbic |
(they made the installataion in a server) |
| 14:53 |
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wizzyrea |
briceSanc: the page is blank? |
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briceSanc |
no |
| 14:54 |
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wizzyrea |
well blank except for the header? |
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kf |
cirbic: there are sql files in the installer/data/mysql/... folder, one of it is the FA framework |
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magnus |
cirbic: fast add framework is here: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ced61f1a8;hb=HEAD |
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cirbic |
(and they had a lot of time because they had to compile the files; they installed it on debian) |
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briceSanc |
wizzyrea, no i have all the interface but when i change the budget, Koha says over the page : Name of the library (Set) | systech2 (Log Out) | [ ? ] |
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cirbic |
ok |
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magnus |
cirbic: if you download it as marc21_fastadd_framework.sql you can get it into Koha with this command, on the commandline: mysql -u [your koha user] -p < marc21_fastadd_framework.sql |
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* wizzyrea |
should have thought that something like that was possible |
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magnus |
cirbic: of course kf is right, you can find that file among the Koha files you get when you download it |
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cirbic |
thanks |
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cirbic |
i´ll print this conversacion and give them it |
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cirbic |
conversation |
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magnus |
cool! ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
briceSanc: perhaps you need editcatalogue |
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wizzyrea |
permissions |
| 14:58 |
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wizzyrea |
but I haven't tested that |
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briceSanc |
ok i try |
| 14:58 |
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wizzyrea |
(i'm trying to duplicate your situation :)) |
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cirbic |
where should I find some manuals to learn more about Koha? |
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kf |
documentation? |
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ibot |
somebody said documentation was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
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briceSanc |
wizzyrea, thanks :) |
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cirbic |
I´have to go |
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cirbic |
thanks to everybody |
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wizzyrea |
ibot++ |
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briceSanc |
wizzyrea, it works with "editcatalogue" permissions, it's weird :S |
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wizzyrea |
woot! |
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wizzyrea |
well it seems kind of logical to me |
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wizzyrea |
catalogue is only to view the catalogue |
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wizzyrea |
if you want to edit anything, you have to have editcatalogue |
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* chris_n |
reports more item availability weirdness |
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wizzyrea |
acq and cataloguing are intertwined |
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briceSanc |
nope in the permissions ;) |
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wizzyrea |
right, not in the permissions :) |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: is this the type of thing you were seeing: |
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chris_n |
http://oi56.tinypic.com/20gji9v.jpg |
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chris_n |
vs |
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briceSanc |
wizzyrea, thanks for your help ! |
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wizzyrea |
briceSanc: glad to be of service :) |
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chris_n |
http://oi52.tinypic.com/f83lx.jpg |
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chris_n |
the last item on the opac search screen shows no items available |
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chris_n |
yet the staff shot shows the item is available |
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* chris_n |
is rebuilding the zebra index to see if it goes away |
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wizzyrea |
oh thanks, i was trying to figure out which was the right one :) |
| 15:06 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, that is exactly like what we were seeing |
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* chris_n |
wonders if rebuild_zebra doesn't miss a lick on occasion |
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wizzyrea |
^^ has wondered the same thing |
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wizzyrea |
but it seems it's happening more often |
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chris_n |
yikes! |
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wizzyrea |
we don't have a real working hypothesis on why it happens yet |
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kf |
happens here too |
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kf |
we scheduled a complete reindex now once in a while |
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wizzyrea |
AHA |
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* wizzyrea |
had a suspicion it was the index, as that's what fixed it for us "a full reindex" |
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wizzyrea |
i can't spell, so sorry. |
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wizzyrea |
or.. bother. |
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* chris_n |
groans |
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chris_n |
reindexing has now gone off to never-never land |
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* chris_n |
is tempted to give his zebra a whack |
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wizzyrea |
use a whip |
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* chris_n |
suddenly hears the angry chorus of librarian and patron voices off in the distance..... |
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wizzyrea |
do they not sleep? |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
oh wait its a college, right? |
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chris_n |
now, if I can only find the DND button on this desk phone.... |
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chris_n |
right |
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wizzyrea |
ELL OH ELL |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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chris_n |
fixed |
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* chris_n |
's anti-zebra bias has just been incremented by at *least* one |
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wizzyrea |
wow that was fast |
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chris_n |
well... we are only talking 10k items |
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chris_n |
kf: how often do you do a full reindex? |
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wizzyrea |
oh I just found more about the times we've seen it |
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wizzyrea |
instances go back at least 3 years |
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wizzyrea |
Basically a record will be re indexed when a status changes which can fix the problem or sometimes they can fix themselves so it's really hard to determine how this resolves itself. |
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wizzyrea |
so, if you checked it out and back in, it might fix it |
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wizzyrea |
if zebra missed it or system load caused it to not make it into the queue |
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chris_n |
ahh |
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wizzyrea |
or something else that Im not thinking of |
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wizzyrea |
but I do wonder about that: perhaps there is a systemic reason that an item after being checked in, would not make it into the zebraqueue? |
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wizzyrea |
maybe it's record didn't get written into the table? |
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kf |
chris_n: not sure - once a week or month |
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kf |
chris_n: would have to ask my coworker - it's quite new |
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kf |
and our libraries are pretty small - all around 50,000 biblios |
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wizzyrea |
yea ours takes hours and hours |
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wizzyrea |
it's an overnight maintenance thing |
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kf |
yeah, pretty fast for us |
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chris_n |
I'm thinking of scheduling one a month on saturday evening after closing |
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chris_n |
better would be to fix the problem, though |
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wizzyrea |
ya |
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rhcl |
Is the difference in electronic resource tags in the OPAC and staff client expected behavior? I/we strongly prefer having the tag. |
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rhcl |
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/31/staffed.png |
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rhcl |
http://img204.imageshack.us/im[…]4/8453/opaced.png |
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rhcl |
plz to forgive klutzy image editing |
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Barrc |
SIP anyone!? The last part of the SIP2 string requires a checksum. Doesn anybody know how this is calculated? Seems to be doing a 2's compliment and taking last 16 bits unsigned. I just can't figure out what string it's doing it on - anyone know? |
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wizzyrea |
ping atz |
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Barrc |
huh? |
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wizzyrea |
atz probably knows the most about SIP of any of us |
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wizzyrea |
i was pinging him |
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Barrc |
I'm with you know - thanks |
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sekjal |
rhcl: looks like your staff client isnt using the XSLT display for results |
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rhcl |
well, ok, I'll contact my support team to get one of those. :) |
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wizzyrea |
it's in the sysprefs, you should be able to just turn it on |
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wizzyrea |
search xslt |
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kf |
rhcl: 856? |
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kf |
sekja: there is no xslt display for results |
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kf |
sekjal |
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kf |
in staff |
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kf |
you can turn it on - but there is none so it will stay all the same |
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kf |
for marc21 at least, it makes no difference if you turn it on or off |
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sekjal |
kf: really? I was sure I've seen that file... |
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kf |
details |
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sekjal |
wow |
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kf |
or the change is quite new |
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sekjal |
wow, thanks, kf, I didn't know that was missing. |
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sekjal |
weird |
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kf |
was about to check git |
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ebegin |
quick question. Koha doesn't warn me when a mandatory field is not filled. It usually pops a dialog, but not at the moment... any idea ? |
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kf |
pull down? |
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kf |
cataloging or acq? |
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ebegin |
cataloging |
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ibot |
cataloging is right |
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kf |
thx ibot |
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atz |
Barrc: checksumming is completely problematic. |
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kf |
is it a pull down? |
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kf |
like item type or branch? |
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ebegin |
non, it's when I'm saving a new record |
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kf |
is the field marked with a * |
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kf |
ah |
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ebegin |
yep |
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kf |
I noticed a problem with pull downs |
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kf |
not sure the bug is still open |
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atz |
the 3M "implementers handbook" describes a process but also makes representational assumptions about the underlying bit-depth and endianness of the values used |
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kf |
bug 3727 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3727 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, If item type is mandatory in marc editor, itemtype is autofilled |
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ebegin |
For example, I'm creating a new record, doesn't fill any information. Save the record. I usually get a message box telling me that the mandatory fields are empty. I don't get this message.. |
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atz |
Barrc: also, it refers to the "ASCII values" of a system we have now returning UTF-8 data. i.e., nonsense. |
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kf |
ebegin: which version? |
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ibot |
which version are you upgraing from ? |
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ebegin |
3.0.6 |
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atz |
Barrc: also, SIP2 doesn't actually require checksums for anything. it's configurable. after many months of wrestling w/ it (in EG's version of sipserver), I'm now against checksumming in SIP. |
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atz |
unless you happen to still be connecting with a 200-ft. serial cable (which is why it was included in the first place) |
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rhcl |
just getting ready to ask that... |
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atz |
notably, TCP/IP has built in error detection |
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ebegin |
did yahoo change the path to the yui ? |
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Barrc |
atz: so is there no need for it? |
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Barrc |
checksum is...... "is four ASCII character digits representing the binary sum of the characters including the |
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Barrc |
first character of the transmission and up to and including the checksum field identifier characters....... |
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Barrc |
But which characters is it! The string just sent or the on just received!!! Maybe I'll forget about it like you say! |
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kf |
ebegin: sorry, have never worked with 3.0.6 |
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ebegin |
no problem... its the first time I have that kind of behavior and I didn't change anything in the code. I tried with IE, on another PC, an another install... and still have the same behavior. really wierd |
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atz |
Barrc: there is no technical need (in modern hardware) to use it. |
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Barrc |
atz: Thanks. I will gladly forget about it!! |
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atz |
it's calculated based on both strings sent and received. basically everything from the first character up to and including the "|AZ" is checksummed |
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atz |
obviously it wouldn't be of any value to calculate it on one side if it wasn't checked upon receipt |
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Barrc |
OK - and the sequence number. Is that required too? |
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atz |
i don't think koha or EG do much with it except logging. |
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atz |
you can send the same number each time w/o detriment |
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Barrc |
Great - thanks. |
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wizzyrea |
atz++ |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: forget cataloguing |
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ibot |
wizzyrea, I didn't have anything matching cataloguing |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: forget cataloging |
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ibot |
wizzyrea: I forgot cataloging |
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wizzyrea |
whoa, in issues, what's the difference between issuingbranch and branchcode? |
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wizzyrea |
(branchcode is populated, issuingbranch seems NULL?!) |
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sekjal |
branchcode is the borrowers branch.... or the items... hmmm, have to check |
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sekjal |
looks like it's the branch of the currently logged in staff user |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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wizzyrea |
interesting that all of mine are null |
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sekjal |
branchcode, or issuingbranch, or both? |
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wizzyrea |
issuingbranch |
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jwagner |
Aw, darn. They captured the Library of Congress hawk: http://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2011/[…]ain-reading-room/ |
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jwagner |
I was rooting for the bird, myself! |
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wizzyrea |
branchcode is populated by the logged in user, in my db |
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wizzyrea |
apparently |
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* wizzyrea |
gives up on trying to decode that |
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* wizzyrea |
moves on |
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kf |
bye all :) |
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wizzyrea |
later kf |
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wasabi |
a random Q about koha version numbers, and updating…. |
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wasabi |
ok, so heres the latest commit for koha-3.2.3…. |
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wasabi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7740a42af59d9e4f8 |
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wasabi |
i see chris_n incrementing the kohaversion number etc…. |
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wasabi |
- our $VERSION = '3.02.02.001'; |
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wasabi |
+ our $VERSION = '3.02.03.000'; |
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wasabi |
so, my Q is 'what value should my 'Version' syspref be to trigger this update? |
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chris_n |
anything previous to whatever is present in your kohaversion.pl |
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wasabi |
well, heres the gotcha for me…. |
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chris_n |
iirc we compare the syspref value to the kohaversion.pl value and upgrade if the later is newer than the former |
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wasabi |
the numbering format for the sypref is in a difference format :/ |
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wasabi |
its currently '3.0300004' |
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chris_n |
yeah... that can be confusing |
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wasabi |
um, which is less or greater that '3.02.03.000' ? |
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chris_n |
you are on the master branch in that case |
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wasabi |
hell yes |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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chris_n |
greater |
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chris_n |
ie |
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wizzyrea |
3.03 is greater than 3.02 |
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chris_n |
3.0300004 > 3.0203000 |
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wizzyrea |
we should ditch the leading 0 |
| 18:22 |
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chris_n |
clear as mud yet? ;-) |
| 18:22 |
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wizzyrea |
officially |
| 18:23 |
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wizzyrea |
er, I suggest that we should ditch the leading 0 |
| 18:23 |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
| 18:23 |
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wizzyrea |
so 3.02 becomes 3.2 |
| 18:23 |
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wizzyrea |
because that's how we routinely refer to it anyway |
| 18:23 |
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wasabi |
oops, my mistake.. ive been fiddling with my version number |
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chris_n |
I think its to preserve the thought that we would not go from 3.99.00.000 to 3.100.00.000 |
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chris_n |
which "could" be interpreted as 3.1 |
| 18:25 |
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chris_n |
rather than 3.100 |
| 18:25 |
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wizzyrea |
realistically, are we ever going to have that problem? |
| 18:25 |
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* chris_n |
quits trying to figure it out |
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chris_n |
probably not |
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chris_n |
it will be a bad day when we go 99 releases without a major change |
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wizzyrea |
esp since we do additional points for minor revisions instead of incrementing the middle version |
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chris_n |
kohaversion.pl explains the "logic" of the number |
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chris_n |
the kohaversion is divided in 4 parts : |
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chris_n |
- #1 : the major number. 3 atm |
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chris_n |
- #2 : the functionnal release. 00 atm |
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chris_n |
- #3 : the subnumber, moves only on a public release |
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chris_n |
- #4 : the developer version. The 4th number is the database subversion. |
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chris_n |
used by developers when the database changes. updatedatabase take care of the changes itself |
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chris_n |
and is automatically called by Auth.pm when needed. |
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wizzyrea |
yep that makes sense |
| 18:28 |
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wizzyrea |
i'd be super surprised if we ever hit a 3 digit functional release |
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chris_n |
but you're right... the placeholders probably don't matter |
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* chris_n |
too |
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wizzyrea |
maybe in 100 years, on major version numbers |
| 18:29 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
| 18:29 |
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chris_n |
100 years doesn't seem as long as it used to |
| 18:30 |
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chris_n |
sort of like $100 doesn't seem much now either :) |
| 18:30 |
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wizzyrea |
windows is only version 7 |
| 18:30 |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
| 18:30 |
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wasabi |
i prefer the dotted.quad format of koha-version |
| 18:30 |
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chris_n |
well when you have as much broken glass laying around as they do..... |
| 18:31 |
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chris_n |
besides, as I once heard: in a world without borders, who needs windows and who needs gates? |
| 18:31 |
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wasabi |
and would like to see it used consistently |
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chris |
place holders do matter |
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* chris_n |
really must go back to doing work |
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wizzyrea |
but it's confuuuuusing |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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chris |
deal |
| 18:32 |
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chris_n |
are those 'u's placeholders? |
| 18:32 |
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wizzyrea |
no, they're emulating the tone my 3 year old would probably take :) |
| 18:32 |
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wasabi |
perhaps we just start to populate the syspref value as a dotted,quad in a later release |
| 18:33 |
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chris |
seriously .. no |
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* wizzyrea |
pouts |
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wizzyrea |
fine |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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chris |
the about page reports it right, just copy from there |
| 18:34 |
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chris |
if you are poking at the version number yourself, then if you cant do it right, thats a sign |
| 18:34 |
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chris |
STOP NOW |
| 18:35 |
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wasabi |
yes, thats fine for now... |
| 18:35 |
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wasabi |
but lets fix it in the future? |
| 18:35 |
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chris |
fix what? |
| 18:37 |
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wasabi |
the syspref 'version' value eventually becomes a dotted.quad format |
| 18:37 |
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chris |
yes, and no one should be manually messing with the syspref |
| 18:37 |
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wasabi |
like in kohaversion.pl , about.pl and updatedatabase.pl, etc |
| 18:38 |
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wizzyrea |
just curious why we have it editable? |
| 18:38 |
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* chris_n |
seems to recall that that syspref is not displayed in the new editor ? |
| 18:38 |
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* wizzyrea |
goes to look |
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chris |
yeah, its only in the old one |
| 18:38 |
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wizzyrea |
ah okies |
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wasabi |
fyi, you can... |
| 18:40 |
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wasabi |
agreed, editing your version in sysprefs is bad |
| 18:40 |
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wasabi |
… but checking there as a sanity check is good |
| 18:40 |
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chris_n |
editing the version number in syspref voids your warranty |
| 18:41 |
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wasabi |
and getting the version in the same format as your friendly about.pl page is reassuring |
| 18:43 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ i agree with this |
| 18:43 |
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chris |
the compare then becomes more complicated |
| 18:43 |
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wasabi |
cool, thats my *only* point here :) |
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chris |
and since its done on every page |
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chris |
and in the scheme of things to work on .. i put it not even on the list |
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chris |
lets fix some real bugs .,.. or signoff some patches .. theres a crap load waiting |
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wizzyrea |
that's fair ^.^ |
| 18:50 |
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chris |
bus time |
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wasabi |
chris: i pushed up the ratings updatedatbase.pl stuff to github |
| 18:51 |
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wasabi |
https://github.com/KohaAloha/k[…]efe4fd9d0#L4L3917 |
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atz |
wizzyrea: editing the version number was useful for testing (and retesting) changes to updatedatabase |
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wasabi |
yeah, for testing that stuff, its waay useful |
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wizzyrea |
I grasp that |
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wasabi |
wizzyrea: say 'grok' girl... its cooler |
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wizzyrea |
lulz |
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wizzyrea |
I almost did |
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wasabi |
i grok that |
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wasabi |
see :) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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chris |
Cool wasabi, will get it tested on master |
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chris |
Who all has an android phone here? |
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chris |
Go to the market |
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ibeardsle |
still early .. I saw that as '.. tasted on master' |
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chris |
Search for koha |
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wizzyrea |
me me oh me |
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chris |
The app can now login and place holds |
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wizzyrea |
nice! |
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chris |
You should try configuring it to point at nekls |
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chris |
(All in settings) |
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wasabi |
w00t, thats very exciting stuff |
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wizzyrea |
oh, will that work? |
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chris |
It should |
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wizzyrea |
blerg my phone has had a bit of a meltdown it seems |
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chris |
Its designed to work with any koha |
| 19:06 |
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wizzyrea |
oh there now it's fixed |
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wizzyrea |
oh brilliant! |
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chris |
Alan thought it now does enough for a beta |
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wizzyrea |
hmmm nekls returns no results |
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wasabi |
googling 'koha android' gives a bunch of results, too |
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wizzyrea |
!!! |
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wasabi |
good to see the word gets round quickly |
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wizzyrea |
it scans! |
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sekjal |
downloading Koha onto my Droid now |
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wizzyrea |
yo, that's pretty sweet |
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chris |
Kiritaki Koha eh sekjal? |
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sekjal |
yes |
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chris |
Kiritaki = client |
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chris |
To make it more useful i want to take something like the ils-di but bound to a single user |
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chris |
So an authenticated user can ask for data in json |
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chris |
Which will allow for other clients easily too |
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chris |
And easier integration with moodle/mahara etc |
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chris |
Course its highly unlikely I will have time |
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chris |
Unless I can find someone to pay for it |
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jwagner |
Anyone online who knows how syspref memberofinstitution is supposed to work? It says "If ON, patrons can be linked to institutions" |
| 19:20 |
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jwagner |
Reading the code, it seems that what it's looking for is any patron category with an Organizational code, but doesn't seem to work -- the pulldown in the patron record is empty. |
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chris |
My stop bbiab |
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wizzyrea |
do you have any organizational categories defined? |
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wizzyrea |
patron categories |
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jwagner |
Yes, two or three. It seems the option to set this only shows up if you're creating an organizational type patron. |
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jwagner |
But the pulldown should show the categories, shouldn't it? |
| 19:24 |
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jwagner |
I've never tried working with this one before. |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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wizzyrea |
I dont think I have either |
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jwagner |
All I can find in the manual is the description on the syspref, which doesn't help. |
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wizzyrea |
maybe you need a patron that's an organization |
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* wizzyrea |
goes to check |
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wizzyrea |
which pulldown in the patron record? |
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wizzyrea |
OH |
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wizzyrea |
wait |
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wizzyrea |
you don't see it when you're creating |
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wizzyrea |
but you do when you edit |
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wizzyrea |
how weird |
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wizzyrea |
soooo... where does one define the organization. |
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* wizzyrea |
investigates |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, I didn't see contents in the pulldown when I was editing either. |
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wizzyrea |
mine's not so much a pulldown as a selectable list that isn't populated |
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chris |
chris_n: jinx! |
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jwagner |
chris, since you're back, do you know how that one is supposed to work? |
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chris |
i might have once, but cant remember |
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jwagner |
As near as I can tell from looking at the code, the contents of the pulldown should be any of the patron categories that are organizational type. |
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* jwagner |
is shocked that chris doesn't have an entire backup of his memory somewhere online :-) |
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wizzyrea |
I haven't lost my mind, it's backed up on disk somewhere. |
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wizzyrea |
do note: i'm not sure *where* exactly the disk is. |
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* wizzyrea |
was not very vigilant on testing those backups. May regret it later. |
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jwagner |
You mean you want to be able to _access_ backups once you've made them??? |
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wizzyrea |
jwagner: it definitely seems broken, to me |
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chris |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi, chris! :) |
| 19:44 |
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jwagner |
Thanks much. That doesn't mean I'm not hallucinating, but at least I'm not hallucinating about this one :-) |
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jwagner |
It seems to have been this way for quite a while -- I tested on current head and on some very old systems with the same result. |
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jwagner |
I'll open a bugzilla report as soon as I stomp out a couple of other fires. Thanks for checking. |
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cait |
jwagner: what is your problem? |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
linking professionals to organisations? |
| 19:46 |
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jwagner |
cait, trying to figure out how syspref memberofinstitution is supposed to work -- the patron record pulldown is empty. |
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jwagner |
If I'm reading the code right, and if there are organizational-type patron categories, those are what should show up in that pulldown, but nothing does. |
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* wizzyrea |
is now curious as to how this works as well, so if you figure it out plz share kthx |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
i tested that some time ago and it worked |
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cait |
I even patched some things |
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wizzyrea |
d'oh! |
| 19:53 |
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cait |
because the search for organisation in professional patron didn't work and it didn't show thelinked patrons on the organisation |
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cait |
it works like the child/adult links |
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cait |
jwagner: which version are you on? |
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wizzyrea |
I was looking on something close to head |
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chris |
psst head of which branch? |
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wizzyrea |
master, sorry |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
its my new pet peeve |
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cait |
jwagner: are you around a bit longer? |
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wizzyrea |
duly noted :) |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
I have to do some other things first, but could look at it later |
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jwagner |
cait, sorry, I was on another screen. I updated my current head server this morning, and I tested there among other places. |
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jwagner |
I don't presently have a server tracking chris_n's codeline |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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cait |
jwagner: I have no working koha on this laptop - have to test on other laptop |
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cait |
can you describe your exaxt problem? |
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jwagner |
When you create a patron with an organizational type patron category, the pulldown shows but is empty -- no values to select from. |
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jwagner |
Am I right in thinking that the only time you'll see this is if you _are_ creating an organizational type patron? |
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cait |
which pull down? |
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jwagner |
I just logged out of all my test servers -- let me get back in... |
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cait |
starting other laptop :) |
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jwagner |
It's labeled Organization(s): |
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cait |
ok |
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jwagner |
cait, did you have a bugzilla entry for your patch? I didn't see anything recent when I searched. |
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cait |
jwagner: I am confused |
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cait |
to entries |
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cait |
2 |
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cait |
sorry |
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cait |
jwagner: I can confirm it's not working now, let me check if I uploaded my doc to the wiki |
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jwagner |
So you see entries? Or not? |
| 20:10 |
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jwagner |
And are those entries the patron categories? |
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cait |
the box didn't show up when I tested it |
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cait |
it worked exactly like adult/child |
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cait |
had a search for org in the professional patron, similar to guarantor search |
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cait |
and it showed the links back and forth on tha patron summary screen |
| 20:13 |
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cait |
jwagner: I wrote a doc for our customers, but can't access the file server from home |
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jwagner |
OK, if you remember tomorrow can you send that to me? I'll hold off creating a new bugzilla entry until I see what you've done. |
| 20:14 |
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cait |
bug 5003 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5003 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Can not search for organisation by name |
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jwagner |
Hmmm. I'm not sure that's the same problem. Gotta go work on another problem right now -- I'll follow up more tomorrow. Thanks. |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 48 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: FIXED) |
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cait |
bug 5112 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5112 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Organisation does not show links to professional patrons |
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cait |
jwagner: no, different things, but showing it was working back then |
| 20:18 |
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cait |
something seems to be broken now |
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cait |
jwagner: organisation seems to be broken - not sure what the box should show. but you can still link from professional to organisaton. create a professional user, edit it - you can search for the org from the edit screen and link them together |
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cait |
jwagner: I think the box can perhaps be ignored, the linked users will show on the org's patron screen |
| 20:27 |
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jwagner |
cait, thanks -- the second bug seems closer to the problem I'm having. I'll try either updating the bug report or opening a new one after investigating some more. |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5654: remove disused directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ca9fab1f3691bb3ab> |
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* jcamins |
realizes that he left his IRC away. |
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Brooke |
tsv |
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Brooke |
this is why I nick your a on a routine basis. |
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cait |
jwagner: both bugs are solved - better open a new one. I think your problem is different. |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
hi brooke :) |
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hudsonbot |
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hudsonbot |
Nicole C. Engard: add section about printing fine accountline invoices |
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* Brooke |
smiles at cait. |
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hudsonbot |
Starting build 323 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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Project Koha_Master build #323: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/323/ |
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hudsonbot |
Galen Charlton: bug 5654: remove disused directory |
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Michael |
Hey Gang. |
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Michael |
I need some help with an SQL report |
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Michael |
What I want is a list of items with a particular shelving location (="CG") and a datelastseen > DATE |
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Michael |
What I'm hung up on is coding for shelving location. |
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Brooke |
oh, almost a dusty book list |
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jcamins |
items.ccode="CG" |
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Michael |
items.loc = CG, perhaps? |
| 21:11 |
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Michael |
yes, basically the opposite of a dusty book list |
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Brooke |
hmm |
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sekjal |
items.location = "CG" |
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Michael |
items.ccode="CG" ...okay, i'll give it a try...standby |
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Brooke |
I thought there was an easier premade jigger for new books |
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Michael |
well, there is one for New Books, but what I want is a list of items |
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Michael |
that have been seen recently and that are in a particular shelving location |
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Brooke |
ah ha |
| 21:12 |
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Brooke |
circhorses. |
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Michael |
we did some inventory recently and i just want to know how many books I touched during that |
| 21:13 |
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Brooke |
eventually it gets through me thick skull |
| 21:13 |
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Brooke |
incidentally |
| 21:13 |
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Brooke |
this might help with other stuff |
| 21:13 |
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Brooke |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:13 |
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Brooke |
so mebbe |
| 21:13 |
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Brooke |
you could add yours |
| 21:13 |
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Brooke |
and what you had in mind :) |
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Michael |
yeah, that's how I've gotten as far as I have. |
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Michael |
the reports library, i mean |
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Brooke |
:) |
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Brooke |
never know what ye know about |
| 21:20 |
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Brooke |
so uh |
| 21:20 |
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Brooke |
I'm redundant |
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jcamins |
ibot: sql report library? |
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ibot |
i haven't a clue, jcamins |
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jcamins |
SQL report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:22 |
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jcamins |
sql report library? |
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ibot |
sql report library is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:22 |
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jcamins |
:D |
| 21:22 |
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jcamins |
SQL reports library? |
| 21:22 |
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jcamins |
ibot: SQL reports library? |
| 21:22 |
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ibot |
jcamins: i haven't a clue |
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jcamins |
SQL reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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jcamins |
ibot: SQL reports library? |
| 21:23 |
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ibot |
SQL reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:23 |
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Brooke |
ibot botsnack sticky taffy |
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ibot |
thanks Brooke :) |
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* jcamins |
has solved his LAN problem- the new switch was plugged into itself, so nothing was reaching the router. |
| 21:28 |
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jwagner |
snake eats tail? |
| 21:28 |
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jwagner |
or endless circular reference? |
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Brooke |
lan? |
| 21:30 |
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jcamins |
Local Area Network. |
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Brooke |
stupid ibot |
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Brooke |
LAN? |
| 21:30 |
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Brooke |
ooh he still doesn't know it |
| 21:30 |
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Brooke |
not worth a new dogtrick, though |
| 21:32 |
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jwagner |
OK, time to stop working and start staring at all the snow coming down outside :-) |
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* Brooke |
is going through sabre withdrawal |
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Brooke |
stupid cancelled classes. |
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ibeardsle |
no training out on the street then? |
| 21:36 |
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Brooke |
inorite?! |
| 21:36 |
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Brooke |
the rozzers are ever so unappreciative of such thigns. |
| 21:36 |
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Brooke |
things even. |
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wizzyrea |
LAN is an abbreviation for Local Area Network |
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* wizzyrea |
bites |
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wizzyrea |
LAN? |
| 21:41 |
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ibot |
LAN is an abbreviation for Local Area Network |
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Brooke |
you're spoilt ibot. |
| 21:42 |
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Brooke |
just puttin' that out there. |
| 21:44 |
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mib_mike |
Hi guys. I've got a problem that seems to have been solved. |
| 21:44 |
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Brooke |
hooray |
| 21:44 |
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mib_mike |
Can anyone give me more information about the patch described here: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ember/025411.html |
| 21:44 |
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Brooke |
an already solved issue is the best kind |
| 21:44 |
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Michael |
sthg is crashing my SQL report...could it be this line? |
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Michael |
WHERE items.ccode="CG" AND datelastseen > '2010-12-15' |
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Michael |
it must be items.ccode |
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mib_mike |
It's great to have a problem with a known solution, but it's especially frustrating if you're the only one who doesn't know it. |
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jcamins |
Michael: your report is *crashing*? |
| 21:48 |
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Michael |
what i mean by crashing is that it displays no results at all |
| 21:48 |
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jcamins |
Michael: what's the entire query? |
| 21:49 |
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jcamins |
mib_mike: what version are you on? |
| 21:49 |
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Michael |
standby... |
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Michael |
3.01.00.145 |
| 21:50 |
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mib_mike |
Koha version:3.02.00.004 |
| 21:50 |
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Michael |
ha, sorry, wrong mike. |
| 21:50 |
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Michael |
SELECT biblio.title, items.datelastseen, items.ccode, items.barcode, items.itemcallnumber FROM biblio LEFT JOIN items ON biblio.biblionumber = items.biblionumber WHERE ccode="CG" AND datelastseen > 2010-12-15 ORDER BY items.itemcallnumber ASC |
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cait |
have you checked that there are items with ccode CG? |
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cait |
select ccode, count(*) from items group by ccode would be a way to show you all used ccodes |
| 21:53 |
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Michael |
okay, standby |
| 21:54 |
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jcamins |
Michael: I think you need to compare dates in a special way. |
| 21:54 |
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jcamins |
No, you just need to put the date in ''s. |
| 21:54 |
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jcamins |
Those are single quotes. |
| 21:54 |
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mib_mike |
Michael: try "select distinct ccode from items;" |
| 21:55 |
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jcamins |
mib_mike: I think someone fixed relevance ranking, but I don't remember how. |
| 21:55 |
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mib_mike |
ARG! |
| 21:55 |
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mib_mike |
I HATE when that happens B-) |
| 21:56 |
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mib_mike |
Any idea where I can begin my search? |
| 21:56 |
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jcamins |
mib_mike: are you able to upgrade? |
| 21:56 |
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mib_mike |
It's not a good time to upgrade. I've just got a couple of days between projects. |
| 21:56 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 21:56 |
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jcamins |
I know it's definitely fixed on Master. |
| 21:56 |
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chris |
mib_mike: turn autotruncation off |
| 21:57 |
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chris |
and then you will get much more relevant results |
| 21:57 |
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jcamins |
Ah, I was hoping chris would appear to answer your question. :) |
| 21:57 |
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chris |
its a toggle in system preferences |
| 21:57 |
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chris |
so give it a whirl, you can always put it back |
| 21:57 |
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mib_mike |
QueryAutoTruncate ? |
| 21:58 |
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chris |
yeah whats that set to now? |
| 21:58 |
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mib_mike |
It's on "automatically" |
| 21:58 |
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mib_mike |
I'll give that a shot. |
| 21:58 |
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chris |
yeah, change that |
| 21:58 |
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chris |
cool |
| 21:58 |
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chris |
playing with the others too is sometimes helpful |
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mib_mike |
I'll look for preferences with "query"? |
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chris |
just look in the search tab |
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mib_mike |
Yeah, I guess that would be another way B-) |
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mib_mike |
Can anyone help me decipher the value of NoZebraIndexes? Are those MARC fields? |
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jcamins |
mib_mike: those are for when you're not using Zebra. |
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chris |
yeah, dont touch them |
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jcamins |
You don't want to run Koha without using Zebra. |
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chris |
have you just tried the auto truncate, and a new search .. you dont want to change lots at once, you wont know what made the difference if you do :-) |
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cait |
bye all :) |
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mib_mike |
Thanks for your suggestions, chris, jcamins |
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Michael |
Are you sure ccode represents shelving location? |
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chris |
nope |
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chris |
thats why smeone said location |
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Michael |
Because when I request that as one of my columns, that column is blank for all 9000+ results |
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chris |
10:13 < sekjal> items.location = "CG" |
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chris |
10:13 < Michael> items.ccode="CG" ...okay, i'll give it a try...standby |
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Michael |
I'll try location... |
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jcamins |
Michael: sorry, I thought you asked about collection code. |
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Michael |
no worries...i think i'm just about there now. |
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mib_mike |
I've set QueryAutoTruncate to "only if '*' is added" But when I search 'Title' for "chest" my first two results have "chester" in the title, while my third has "chest" any ideas? |
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mib_mike |
The search is described as “ti,wrdl: chest †I assume 'ti' means title but what does 'wrdl' mean? |
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chris |
wordlist |
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Michael |
Success! Thanks people. |
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chris |
mib_mike: turn of stemming |
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chris |
turn off |
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chris |
even |
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chris |
and give it another go |
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chris |
er, ies, ing, es etc are all removed when doing stemming |
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sekjal |
http://www.techrepublic.com/bl[…]-open-source/2141 |
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chris |
hence chester |
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rhcl |
ping wizzyrea - still on? |
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mib_mike |
Setting QueryStemming to "Don't Try" has had no effect on the first three results from my “ti,wrdl: chest †search. |
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chris |
you have queryweightfields enabled? |
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mib_mike |
yes queryweightfields are enabled. |
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rhcl |
didn't I remember seeing something on channel about a new, current deb pkg being uploaded to http://debian.koha-community.org/koha ? |
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chris |
3.2.2 was put up jan 9 |
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chris |
3.2.3 will go up next week |
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rhcl |
ah ha, your're right. If you don't expand the koha directory it shows the old October 2010 date. |
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rhcl |
for last modified |
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chris |
yeah you shouldnt really be browsing manually, but using apt-get to do it for ya ;-) |
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mib_mike |
Hmm.. “ti,phr: chest†(trailing space added by koha) does not return titles with "chester". |
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mib_mike |
though “ti,wrdl: chest †still does |
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wizzyrea |
sup rhcl |
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rhcl |
hey, just had the question about the .deb pkgs, which chris answered |
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pushes the first 4 commits toward 3.2.4 |
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Starting build 91 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: FIXED) |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit32: bug 5654: remove disused directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c18466359470745c4> / Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]672f151079658d57f> / History updated <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]h=9638c4423a6272e |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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chris_n |
g'night jcamins_a |
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hudsonbot |
Project Koha_3.2.x build #91: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/91/ |
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hudsonbot |
* Jerome Charaoui: Bug 5506 Fix installation of prefs translations in standard installs |
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* Chris Cormack: Adding Jerome Charaoui to the history docs, 130 people have code in Koha now |
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