IRC log for #koha, 2011-01-19

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00:45 hudsonbot Starting build 304 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 1 day 2 hr ago)
00:46 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327 - Now we are doing db calls, we need to shift this to t/db_dependent <[…]dcf8dcb064539b224> / Added unit tests to test all of get_amazon_tld in <[…]7f3800d7a5b92923c>
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01:12 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #304: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/304/
01:12 hudsonbot * Zach Sim: Added unit tests to test all of get_amazon_tld in
01:12 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 - Now we are doing db calls, we need to shift this to t/db_dependent
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01:21 chris !hudson build koha_master now
01:21 hudsonbot chris: job koha_master build scheduled now
01:22 hudsonbot Starting build 305 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 1 day 2 hr ago)
01:24 chris @later tell jcamins if you want a patch to make it into my list, make sure you set the bug to signed-off .. this is your one freebie :)
01:24 munin chris: The operation succeeded.
01:33 CIA-1 Koha: chrisc new/enh/bug_4289 * rv3.02.00-560-gd5c0b2a / (installer/data/mysql/ Bug 4289: Bumping version number up
01:33 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages
01:36 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4289: Bumping version number up <[…]7af01a035a8f29f71> / Bug 4289 Followup: Add syspref default value and in opac.pref <[…]1385decb25398a5f4> / Bug 4289: 'OpacPublic' feature <[…]=f46b03cf2da045c7
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01:40 CIA-1 Koha: claudia.forsman new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-561-g422df40 /koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/itemtypeimg/kids icons new/ (28 files): New icon set for kids, has ben rezided to 48 by 48px
01:41 CIA-1 Koha: chrisc new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-562-ga387b6f / (85 files in 4 dirs): New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too
01:41 CIA-1 Koha: chrisc new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-562-g907cf10 / (85 files in 4 dirs): New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too
01:42 CIA-1 Koha: chrisc new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-562-gbe1a194 / (85 files in 4 dirs): New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too
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01:44 havergara hello
01:44 havergara can someone help me with my problem please?
01:50 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
01:50 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #305: FIXED in 28 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/305/
01:50 havergara no one online?
01:50 havergara T_T
01:51 hudsonbot Starting build 306 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
01:51 havergara :s
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02:08 mib_glrnd sorry about the typo by the way >.<
02:08 havergara hello guys can you please healp me?
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02:09 chris whats your problem? we wont know if we can help until we know what the issue is
02:09 ibeardsle no-one can help anyone without knowing what the problem is and what has been done to sort it out
02:09 havergara sorry
02:10 havergara i was asking for help for around sometime already no one is responding :s
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02:10 havergara my problem involves the fines in my KOHA system
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02:11 havergara everything is set accordingly,, the cronjob for is already running
02:11 chris ok
02:11 havergara and the computation of fines according to the log on the server is functioning well
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02:12 havergara but when i go to the OPAC and see the overdued items a patron borrowed, it says under fines field: NO
02:12 havergara the item is supposed to be overdued over two days already
02:12 claudia the apologies about the typo was from me fyi >.< sorry about that.
02:13 chris is there lines in your accountlines table?
02:13 chris for that borrower
02:13 havergara yes there is
02:13 chris what version of Koha
02:13 Spartanes Chris is teaching us to typo in commits.
02:13 havergara version
02:14 claudia its true
02:14 chris if you look at the patron in the staff side, does it show the fines?
02:15 chris i havent heard this bug reported before, but 3.0.6 is pretty old now, so it may have been fixed
02:15 havergara no says the same...
02:16 havergara there are some which have the same situation as mine on the forums but there are no folow ups as to if those problems have already fixed
02:16 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #306: UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/306/
02:16 hudsonbot * Mason James: Bug 4289: 'OpacPublic' feature
02:16 hudsonbot * Fr?d?ric Demians: Bug 4289 Followup: Add syspref default value and in opac.pref
02:16 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 4289: Bumping version number up
02:17 havergara a chris sir...
02:17 chris havergara: i know that fines definitely show in all the 3.2.x releases
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02:17 havergara there is no record for that user in the accountlines
02:17 chris oh, i thought you said there was?
02:17 havergara im sorry for that
02:17 havergara i just checked
02:18 chris ahh, well then it sounds like is not putting the fines in
02:18 chris thats where they are stored
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02:18 havergara where can i find this
02:18 chris or
02:18 havergara my koha 3 seems to not have this file
02:18 chris if you run by hand, does it work?
02:19 havergara yes sir
02:19 havergara it works
02:19 havergara i just did that too awhile ago
02:19 chris i mean does it put rows into accountlines
02:19 havergara but if i check on the staff and fines appears
02:19 chris if not, then either its not working or the rules are not set up right
02:19 chris all should do, is put rows into accountlines
02:20 havergara o,,no sir...if i do the by hand, it shows computation but there are no records entered to the accountlines
02:21 havergara the only things showing in my accountlines table are the charging of reservation and membership if im not mistaken...
02:21 havergara OMG
02:21 havergara im screwed..hehe!
02:22 chris you need to check your system preferences
02:24 chris check the setting for finesMode
02:24 chris what is that set to?
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02:28 havergara hello
02:28 havergara sir chris
02:28 havergara i a,went to our server\
02:28 havergara sorry for the delay on reply
02:28 chris yep, what is the systempreference for finesMode set to?
02:28 havergara so this is the situation im into
02:29 havergara a ok...uhm it is set to production
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02:30 havergara we executed the in the server and the result was it ca detect the patron having fines but then i think the computation is not done
02:31 eter hey yall ... took a loong holiday break
02:31 chris havergara: there is no setting for calculate and charge
02:31 havergara it can only detect that a certain patron has overdues and those overdues are the dues made in Account management and Reserve Charge
02:32 eter hey chris how is your new yaer?
02:32 chris eter: pretty good so far
02:32 havergara sir can i request you to guide me to step by step set my fines preferences pls?:)
02:32 chris havergara: i have no idea for 3.0.6
02:32 chris you are probably best to ask on the mailing list
02:32 havergara aw :s
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02:33 eter hey system.prefs> opacheader is that for links to customization files or is it for direct codes?
02:33 havergara i did already posted a load there but my account up to now is not accepted
02:33 havergara wt heck..hehe
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02:34 eter ok never mind found it
02:34 havergara by the way, chris what do you mean i have no setting for calculate and charge?
02:34 chris in 3.2.x there are 3 settings you can choose for finesmode
02:35 chris one is 'calculate and charge'
02:35 havergara o...yeah i think i really dont have that
02:35 havergara do you think thats the problem?\
02:36 havergara and heres an update to the records inside accountlines
02:38 havergara what is account type "FU"
02:38 chris Fine Unpaid
02:38 havergara there is a record just added
02:38 chris cool, what is the borrowernumber? try looking at that borrower in the opac
02:39 chris (or in the staff interface)
02:39 havergara ok ok...:)
02:40 havergara yeah!wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...!
02:40 havergara i think its a fine from overdues of books\
02:40 havergara but
02:41 havergara hey why is it located on the total and not in line with the book record
02:41 chris yes FU is from overdues
02:41 havergara i mean in the staff client
02:41 havergara over the patron details
02:41 chris i dont know, i havent looked at 3.0.x in over a year
02:42 havergara on the checked out are
02:42 havergara on the cheked out area
02:43 havergara there you can see the fields: ITEM TYPE, TITLE, CHECKED OUT ON, DUE DATE, CHARGE, and PRICE
02:43 havergara under charge
02:43 chris thats replacement price
02:43 chris not the fines
02:43 chris they only show on the accounts page
02:43 chris the price column there is for the price of the book
02:44 havergara ok i see
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02:44 havergara so i went to the OPAC
02:44 havergara and went to my fines
02:44 wasabi havergara: i think chris is whispering you "update your koha to 3.2-stable" :)
02:44 havergara there under fines, still "No" is placed
02:45 chris but it is showing in staff?
02:46 havergara i mean on summary, if i go to summary, it says under fines "No"
02:46 havergara but if i go to the my fines, the fine is already showing
02:46 havergara wasabi hahaha
02:46 chris ok
02:46 chris so yeah, that might be a bug, but 3.0.x is no longer developed, so it wont be fixed
02:47 chris and probably is already fixed in 3.2.x and 3.4
02:47 havergara :s:/
02:47 havergara what is the latest stable version of koha anyway?
02:47 chris 3.2.2 is the latest stable release
02:47 havergara o ok...
02:47 chris 3.2.3 will be released on the 22nd
02:48 havergara hmmmm
02:48 havergara but my 3.0 is already implemented
02:48 havergara their going to kill me haha
02:48 havergara and i havent any experience yet in upgrading...
02:48 wasabi $ git reset —hard v3.02.00-rc
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02:49 wasabi so, set up a test koha….
02:49 chris yes you should definitely do the update on a test one first
02:50 wasabi and experiment with upgrading it to 3.2
02:50 chris and the bug is fairly minor, as the fines are actually being levied
02:50 wasabi[…]Control_Using_Git
02:51 chris so its just a display issue on the summary page
02:53 havergara yes i believe it is
02:54 havergara let me just see if i can fix that issue :D
02:56 chris claudia:
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02:57 glernil good day!
02:57 glernil how can i show the call number of the biblio in the opac?
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03:04 havergara i think thats supposed to be filled in the catalog record?
03:07 havergara chris?
03:07 ibot rumour has it chris is awesome or a real world traveller
03:09 Silens claudia?
03:09 havergara this i think is the one causing the display issue
03:09 havergara <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="charge" -->
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03:32 Amit heya all
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03:42 ibeardsle would people consider the system accepting a birthdate in the future a bug?
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05:00 chris ibeardsle: yes, I would
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05:10 Oak \o
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06:17 ibeardsle chris: johnboy's had a unit test that was returning -19 as an age .. maybe walk him through getting a bug filed ;)
06:18 chris Good idea :)
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06:53 cait good morning #koha
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06:58 francharb hello #koha
07:06 cait hi francharb
07:15 Amit heya cait
07:19 cait hi Amit
07:24 cait bye all
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07:45 chris evening all
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07:51 kf morning #koha
07:55 ibeardsle this the 2nd shift starting?
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07:57 CIA-1 Koha: chrisc new/enh/bug_4289 * rv3.02.00-561-gce5bf27 /installer/data/mysql/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Bug 4289: Updating other sysprefs until we change the installer, we need to do this
07:57 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages
07:57 chris ibeardsle: europe coming online :)
07:59 kf huh?
07:59 kf unit_tests++ :)
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08:01 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4289: Updating other sysprefs until we change the installer, we need to do this <[…]83708b01892c28bdf>
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08:04 kf morning paul_p
08:04 * kf wonders what cait was doing here...
08:08 paul_p 'morning kf
08:08 paul_p i'm in Metz, near germany ;-)
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08:15 hudsonbot Starting build 307 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #305 6 hr 53 min ago)
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08:35 kf paul_p: you are travelling a lot! but still 355km away from me google maps says
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08:38 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
08:38 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #307: FIXED in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/307/
08:38 hudsonbot Chris Cormack: Bug 4289: Updating other sysprefs until we change the installer, we need to do this
08:38 paul_p kf, yep, my wife think i'm travelling too much...
08:39 ivanc hallo #koha
08:39 paul_p next week in Lille once again
08:39 paul_p 'morning ivanc -at least if you're from Europe/Africa- otherwise good afternoon, evening or whatever ;-)
08:49 * kf waves to ivanc
08:52 chris http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ter/HTML_Report/?  <-- check it out, 49.2% subroutine coverage, im aiming for 80% eventually but as long as it keeps going up im happy
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09:05 paul_p hello chris. How are things in NZ ?
09:08 paul_p chris ?
09:08 ibot chris is awesome or a real world traveller
09:09 chris paul_p: busy but good
09:09 paul_p I've a question for you : i've splitted biblibre-various in 20 very small branches, with 2-3 patches each. Do you prefer a pull request for each of them or a git send-email ?
09:10 * paul_p tend to go git-send-email
09:10 ivanc hallo kf :)
09:12 chris git send-email then hopefully ppl will sign off on them
09:13 paul_p ok, will do that.
09:13 paul_p 2nd question = any news from integration of other branches ? [I have had no more feedback from anyone]
09:13 chris nope, still waiting on sign off on them, you read owens feedback eh?
09:14 paul_p which one ? [i've read some and think I fixed them, but may have missed something]
09:15 chris on the wiki i think
09:15 * paul_p will check again [maybe we have too many sources : wiki, bz, mls ...]
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09:21 chris well normally feedback would go on the bug, but most of these dont have bugs
09:21 chris hopefully that wont happen anymore
09:21 kf I am not sure, but I think the bug got updated as well
09:21 kf I remember seeing a lotof mails
09:22 paul_p yep kf, me too, i'll check again
09:22 kf yep, bug 5575
09:22 chris its hard to update the bug, cos the bug covers a lot of things
09:22 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements
09:22 kf owen++
09:22 paul_p owen++
09:22 chris i think that branch is getting pretty close to being mergeable
09:23 paul_p and I missed all of those comments.
09:23 paul_p owen++
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10:40 paul_p ok, time to go to catch my train... good night to kiwis/aussies, good day to others
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14:08 hdl hi
14:08 kf hi hdl
14:08 owen Hi everyone
14:08 hdl hi owen
14:09 hdl still confused why would the irc connections per ip be limited to 3 connections
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14:34 jcamins Good morning, #koha
14:36 owen Hi jcamins
14:37 sekjal howdy, jcamins, owen, hdl!
14:39 kf hi sekjal and jcamins
14:40 sekjal hi, kf!
14:47 jcamins Hello, owen, sekjal, and kf.
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15:55 wizzyrea good morning
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15:56 wizzyrea well that was not what I intended to do
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16:06 fcapo Hello, I'm having a problem with my search results right now. Some search results show "No title" and they have no biblionumber.
16:06 fcapo Koha version
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16:08 fcapo The problem happens on marc records that go over the 99999 characters limit of the MARC format.
16:09 fcapo I use -x option on rebuild zebra so it can index the records that go over that limit, but those records show "No title"
16:12 fcapo Koha seems to be configured to use GSR-1 and not DOM for Zebra indexations
16:12 fcapo for biblio records that is...
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16:14 fcapo So when I get the search results from Zebra, I get them in MARC format and not XML, so the 99999 characters limit kicks back and the search result is broken.
16:15 fcapo see:[…]OOM.pod#raw%28%29
16:15 kf sorry fcapo - have not run into that
16:19 hdl fcapo: yes...
16:19 hdl fcapo: it is using GRS-1 for biblio records
16:19 hdl and the limit is there.
16:19 hdl You may want to use the zebrasrv with -k 50000
16:19 hdl fcapo: yes...
16:19 hdl fcapo: it is using GRS-1 for biblio records
16:19 hdl and the limit is there.
16:19 ibot i already had it that way, hdl.
16:19 hdl You may want to use the zebrasrv with -k 50000
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16:21 fcapo hdl: I'll look into that option, thanks for the feedback
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16:25 fcapo tried with -k 50000 then did a . It changed nothing.
16:27 fcapo then problem is that I receive the search results in MARC when they should be in XML. If a record goes over the limit of 99999 characters, I don't receive the full record because the size information of the leader is incorrect.
16:28 fcapo XML doesn't look at the size information of the leader, that's why it can go over the limit.
16:28 hdl yes.
16:28 hdl in fact, I think that MARC::Record should not rely on directory
16:29 hdl to build the structure.
16:29 hdl It should take tag/subfield characters and decode.
16:30 hdl But that would not abide by the normalization
16:31 hdl We have had the same problem and would be induced into either get the MARC::File::XML or reduce the count of items (usually it is because the record contains XXXXXXXXX items)
16:32 hdl using the XML returned by zebra could be a way... But it is s l o    w
16:32 fcapo so that's the reason they stayed with GRS-1?
16:33 hdl one of the reasois
16:33 fcapo ok
16:53 chris_n circ rules question; given a self-checkout setup: if a patron runs up against their renewal limit, what's to keep them from checkin/checkout and circumvent the renewal limit?
16:54 kf hm
16:54 kf I think nothing
16:54 owen is now known as owen-away
16:54 kf but if there is no reserve on it it's probably not really a problem?
16:54 kf otherwise he could come back the next day... only annoying for the borrower
16:55 kf but: the problem is he will even be able to check the item out again if there is a reserve (using selfcheck)
16:55 kf at least this is what happens at our self check stations (rfid/sip2) because the item does not go into waiting
16:55 wizzyrea ther'es nothing that keeps someone from doing that
16:55 wizzyrea kf really?
16:55 kf yep
16:55 wizzyrea I thought that was fixed
16:56 * wizzyrea is suddenly unsure that all of our dev escaped
16:56 wizzyrea because ours won't let you check something out without a reserve
16:56 wizzyrea er
16:56 kf with :)
16:56 wizzyrea if a reserve is placed
16:56 wizzyrea yes, that
16:56 kf we are waiting for the rfid vendor do some tests now
16:56 kf but the tests we did looked not very promising :(
16:56 wizzyrea that makes me feel very unhappy :)
16:56 wizzyrea :(
16:57 wizzyrea 3.2 version?
16:57 kf 3.1.61
16:57 wizzyrea ohh
16:57 wizzyrea yea
16:57 wizzyrea ok
16:57 kf tested with 3.2.1 I think
16:57 wizzyrea hmmm
16:58 kf bug 3638
16:58 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3638 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Status of hold not changed when item checked in via SIP2 Interface
17:00 kf wizzyrea: perhaps I missed something, hope they will test tomorrow and we will know more
17:00 chris you might need to bug colin about that
17:00 kf have to go now - getting late - see you all a bit later
17:00 kf hi chris
17:01 kf updated bug - but I see now that I didn#t mention the "checkout with reserve"
17:01 kf will try to write him this week when vendor has tested
17:01 kf bye all - coworker waiting for me
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17:03 chris_n back, sorry
17:05 chris_n so in reality, renewal limits are only to accommodate holds?
17:06 wizzyrea well no
17:06 wizzyrea it's to keep someone from renewing an item indefinitely
17:06 wizzyrea through the opac
17:06 chris_n but not through self-checkout
17:06 wizzyrea right
17:06 chris_n seems a bug to me then
17:06 wizzyrea maybe the selfcheck needs to honor that, to make it so that a staff person has to check it in and out again
17:07 chris_n that's the behavior I would expect
17:07 wizzyrea I think I agree with that
17:07 wizzyrea this is the builtin self check, not a RFID one
17:07 wizzyrea right?
17:07 * chris_n wonders how many libraries use self-checkout
17:07 chris_n right
17:07 wizzyrea at least on our RFID machines, you can't check in from the kiosk
17:08 wizzyrea you can renew, but once you hit the limit it disallows it
17:08 chris_n iirc one can forbid a patron from checking in using self-checkout
17:08 wizzyrea and you'd have to talk to a person
17:08 chris_n there's a syspref for it
17:09 * wizzyrea notes that her machines are not using the builtin selfcheck, do it through SIP
17:09 chris_n right
17:09 wizzyrea and I believe it works as you expect it to
17:09 chris_n we probably should disallow checkins via self-checkout
17:09 wizzyrea that would be your best immediate solution
17:09 wizzyrea probalby
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17:10 wizzyrea properly spelled, of course
17:10 chris_n hehe
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17:13 chris hdl: do you have a minute?
17:13 chris can you try connecting more than 4 times now?
17:14 chris or anyone for that matter
17:15 * chris thinks he has changed that limit
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17:15 * chris_n need to have his head checked
17:16 chris_n chris: limit?
17:16 ibot it has been said that limit is there.
17:16 wizzyrea ibot forget limit
17:16 ibot wizzyrea: I forgot limit
17:16 wizzyrea connect to what?
17:16 jcamins IRC.
17:16 wizzyrea o
17:17 chris yeah
17:17 chris_n wizzyrea: preventing checkouts would sort of defeat the purpose of having a self-checkout.... :-S
17:17 chris_n so sco really needs a feature that prevents checking out an item that is over its renewal limit
17:17 wizzyrea chris_n: true, but you were wanting to limit checkIN's
17:18 chris_n arghh!! :-P
17:18 wizzyrea so that to check in the book had to go through a staff member :)
17:18 chris that makes sense to me
17:18 chris_n is it time to quit yet?
17:18 jcamins wizzyrea: you can check *in* with a self check-out machine?
17:18 wizzyrea hehe
17:18 wizzyrea jcamins: not on ours you can't
17:18 wizzyrea apparently you can with the builtin sco
17:18 chris yeah sounds dangerous
17:18 chris_n very
17:18 chris checkin and then leave with the book
17:18 chris_n yup
17:19 * wizzyrea makes the zoidberg noise: "woop woop woop woop"
17:19 chris should be off by default
17:19 chris_n also allows circumvention of the renewal limits
17:19 chris_n chris: isn't there a syspref to control that?
17:19 chris maybe
17:19 chris but it should be off by default
17:20 chris it might be that you have to turn it off ... you should have to turn it on
17:20 chris is what i want checked :)
17:21 wizzyrea[…]E&feature=related
17:21 wizzyrea this noise
17:21 wizzyrea (please don't watch the whole thing)
17:21 jcamins wizzyrea: why?
17:22 wizzyrea because it's 11 minutes of zoidberg going woop woop woop
17:22 wizzyrea and you might go a bit batty.
17:22 jcamins No, *that* I understood.
17:22 wizzyrea lol
17:22 jcamins I was asking more generally, why?
17:22 wizzyrea why not?
17:22 * wizzyrea might be feeling obtuse.
17:23 wizzyrea better than acute, I guess.
17:23 jcamins :)
17:25 chris so can anyone confirm the multiple connects from the same ip/subnet to irc now works?
17:25 wizzyrea un moment
17:25 chris seems to from here, but i want signoff :-)
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17:26 * chris_n will have to investigate further, but there does not appear to be such a syspref
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17:26 jcamins How many of me are connected now?
17:26 liz2 I have 5, what was teh limit
17:27 chris used to be 4
17:27 * chris_n thinks we can really get things done now
17:27 chris so looks fixed to me
17:27 chris_n with so many people
17:27 liz1 omg there are so many of me
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17:27 * jwagner pokes head in, sees lots of clones!
17:27 chris cool, time to go put out the rubbish, and make the kids breakfast
17:27 chris thanks for testing
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17:27 chris_n quitters!
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17:27 chris_n :)
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17:28 jwagner And I thought we could get five times the work done....
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17:28 * jwagner goes back to arguing with data mapping now, sigh
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17:28 jcamins Did I get all of my clones?
17:28 jcamins Looks like it.
17:35 chris_n @quote add chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software.
17:35 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded.  Quote #115 added.
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17:39 cait hi #koha
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17:45 cait reading back
17:46 cait wizzyrea: we do check-ins on the self-check
17:46 cait wizzyrea: I think it's agood feature, but perhaps we need to add a pref to check for "had item checked out until renewal limit on the same day" or something like that
17:46 cait if you want to prevent them from doing that
17:47 cait I think most libraries will allow you to check out the book again when nobody has a reserve on it and you have showed it to them once
17:54 * cait talks to herself ;)
18:02 chris i do think there should be a pref to disable checkins on self check though
18:04 cait for sip you can do that in the config file
18:04 chris yes, but we need one for the sco bit
18:04 cait ok
18:05 cait academy today? :)
18:07 chris yep, for the morning
18:07 chris then they are off to weta for the afternoon
18:07 cait weta?
18:08 chris
18:08 sekjal can anyone confirm that fines originally posted in 2010 are still accruing in 2011?
18:09 chris none of my clients have advised me otherwise, and it would be the first year that ever happened if it wasnt
18:09 chris ill go look in a couple of dbs
18:09 sekjal thanks, chris
18:10 sekjal I had one client notice this, and I think I've found the same behaviour on another server
18:11 chris it shouldnt care about the date the fine started, but the date the item is due
18:11 cait sekjal: got a fine on a sunday today! have to check again tomorrow :( finesCalendar was set to noFinesWhenclosed
18:11 cait decided to go home after I saw that in my report
18:12 chris and you have all sundays set in the calendar as a holiday eh?
18:16 cait yep
18:16 cait in the library's calendar
18:16 cait wanted to check again tomorrow with standard set too
18:16 chris good idea
18:17 cait but this fines and notices will drive me crazy one day
18:20 cait hm and my report was not paginating... it was really time to leave
18:20 chris sekjal: it seems ok at hlt
18:21 sekjal thanks for checking, chris.
18:21 sekjal this is freakin' weird
18:23 pastebot "chris" at pasted "Fines" (8 lines) at
18:23 chris running some sql like that might help you
18:24 sekjal chris: does your script run around 8:30am?
18:24 chris yup
18:24 sekjal ok
18:25 sekjal for dates from last year, the timestamp get stuck on the last day they were open; no more updates are made by, just sometimes by librarians.
18:28 sekjal does HLT use the calendars for calculating fines?
18:30 chris weird
18:30 chris i dont think so
18:31 chris is it doing fines for new ones?
18:31 sekjal I believe so... let me confirm
18:31 chris is it only ones that were due last year that are problem?
18:32 cait what is your finescalendar setting?
18:32 sekjal noFinesWhenClosed
18:33 cait chris ?
18:33 ibot chris is awesome or a real world traveller
18:34 sekjal I'm not seeing new fines with dates after the new year.  lost item charges and the like, sure, but not new fines charges
18:34 cait have you checked the calculation in
18:35 chris right so its all items
18:35 chris no fines
18:35 chris ?
18:35 chris runs at 1.05am ive found
18:35 sekjal wait, no, I'm seeing fines from 19-01
18:36 pastebot "chris" at pasted "select * from accountlines whe" (8 lines) at
18:36 chris yeah, cos thats definitely working fine at hlt
18:36 chris ok i have to go catch a bus, ill try to look more at work
18:37 sekjal thanks, chris, have a good ride
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19:06 chris My stop bbiab
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19:33 chris back
19:37 cait I don't get it
19:38 cait can someone create a new order in koha head and tell me how the calculation works? i have tax and discount set to 10%
19:40 chris hmm probably want one of the biblibre people, or robin
19:40 chris both of whom arent here
19:41 cait yeah, was testing robin's patch
19:42 cait I get 10.0 8.74 - 7.97
19:42 cait 7.87
19:42 cait the last one, not 7.97
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19:53 paul_p hello world
19:53 paul_p i'm about to flood patches ml with patches ;-)
19:53 paul_p fixes for 5575 + patches for splitted biblibre_about branch
19:58 chris ill apply the 5575 ones to the branch and push it
19:58 chris paul_p: you shouldnt need to use mibbit anymore, i think ive fixed the limit on connections
19:59 * paul_p checks immediatly
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20:00 paul_p_ chris++
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20:01 paul_p_ well, in fact I can't check the limit is gone, because i'm in an hotel, not at office
20:01 paul_p_ but will check later
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20:02 chris i got jcamins and wizzy to test they had 5 clones connected each, so i think should be ok :)
20:03 * jcamins thinks it's probably good that it wasn't cait and jcamins... that would've been a lot of talk about analytics. ;)
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20:03 cait hehe
20:03 cait at the moment I would be happy to talk about price calculation
20:05 cait ah, I think I found it
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20:05 cait my euro rate as not set to 1
20:05 chris johnboy:[…]22056b84ff71583ee
20:05 chris cait: ahhh that would do it
20:05 cait yep, that was the problem
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20:10 Nate hi #koha
20:10 chris hi Nate
20:10 Nate demoing Koha to a library in CT!
20:10 Nate say hi
20:10 paul_p hello cait & Nate
20:10 cait hello paul_p
20:10 owen Hi CT!
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20:11 cait hello Nate and CT :)
20:11 paul_p chris, do you have recieved the 6 mails sent to now ?
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20:11 jcamins Hello, CT.
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20:13 druthb Hi, Nate, and the folks in CT!
20:13 paul_p seems yes, they are in http://lists.koha-community.or[…]nuary/thread.html
20:13 paul_p but i've nothing in my own mailbox. (I was afraid to have a pb with smtp not enabled on my wifi)
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20:15 chris i got 6 mails paul_p
20:15 paul_p ok, will continue with the "various" branches, but I have to file bugs before
20:16 paul_p + looking at a match Marseille/Auxerre (semi final of the french league cup)
20:16 paul_p so don't expect me to be too efficient ;-)
20:18 cait hmpf some ideas about tax?
20:18 cait looking at the code I thought list price dont include + tax rate should work
20:18 cait but I only get the discount calculated
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20:47 claudia thanks
20:47 cait hi claudia
20:48 claudia hi cait
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20:58 cait chris: bug 2865
20:58 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2865 major, P3, ---, chris, NEW, Acquisitions: GST not calculating correctly.
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21:00 cait chris: any update on this? I am also not sure that gst really works - is this patch available somewhere?
21:03 chris you'll need to ask robin when he is back
21:05 * chris has lost track, too much to keep track of, im down to just tracking things that are signed off
21:06 cait ook, when will robin be back? :)
21:06 chris 2 weeks
21:06 cait hmpf.
21:06 chris you could have a look in the git.catalyst repo too
21:06 chris if it exists it should be in there
21:06 cait ok
21:06 chris check the hlt branch
21:07 cait trying to understand jo's spreadsheet
21:07 cait I think the budgeted cost should be what the library is going to pay for the book - I would think list price + gst - discount
21:07 cait just thinking loud so someone can disagree
21:08 jcamins cait: I don't know much about budgets, but isn't shipping listed separately?
21:08 jcamins I'd think some libraries would include shipping in their budget.
21:08 jcamins (per-basket, not per-book, though)
21:09 cait oh there is no way to add shipping costs at the moment
21:09 cait so I don't even start talking about that ;)
21:09 jcamins cait: oh.
21:09 jcamins Well, as I said, I don't know much about budgets.
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21:09 cait thx for trying ;)
21:10 jcamins What am I doing?
21:11 cait not sure
21:11 jcamins I hate it when I stop typing half-way through a word, and don't know what the word was supposed to be.
21:11 cait oh
21:11 cait want a cookie?
21:11 jcamins Yes please.
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21:17 * cait sends jcamins a big chocolate chip cookie
21:17 jcamins Thank you!
21:17 jcamins :D
21:18 jcamins cait++ # for cookies
21:18 cait apparently it's all I am able to do ...
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21:24 chris hi ronald
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21:27 ronald hiya chris
21:31 cait chris: I think I found the patch - trying to figure it out
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21:42 chris cool
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22:24 chris wb Nate
22:24 Nate Hi Chris!
22:35 sekjal goodnight, #koha!
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22:39 cait good night all
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22:52 CIA-1 Koha: chrisc new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-563-g3787664 /t/ (Members.t db_dependent/Members.t): Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests
22:53 CIA-1 Koha: chrisc new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-563-g3147726 /t/ (Members.t db_dependent/Members.t): Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests
22:53 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
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22:59 Brooke kia ora
23:00 hudsonbot Starting build 308 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
23:04 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests <[…]2c772c3562c560fc2> / Bug 5327 Some tests added <[…]c246514cea444df12>
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23:26 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #308: UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/308/
23:26 hudsonbot * johnboy: Bug 5327 Some tests added
23:26 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests
23:28 chris 49.9%
23:28 Nate goodnight #koha!
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23:30 jcamins Good night, #koha
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