Time  Nick       Message
23:43 wasabi     http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/01/19/2116252/DSL-Installation-Fail
23:30 jcamins    Good night, #koha
23:28 Nate       goodnight #koha!
23:28 chris      49.9%
23:26 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests
23:26 hudsonbot  * johnboy: Bug 5327 Some tests added
23:26 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #308: UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/308/
23:04 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=314772637ce23285defd5372c772c3562c560fc2> / Bug 5327 Some tests added <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d567945517021ed093c7ec7c246514cea444df12>
23:00 hudsonbot  Starting build 308 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
22:59 Brooke     kia ora
22:53 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
22:53 CIA-1      Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-563-g3147726 10/t/ (Members.t db_dependent/Members.t): Bug 5327: Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests
22:52 CIA-1      Koha: 03chrisc 07new/bug_5327 * rv3.02.00-563-g3787664 10/t/ (Members.t db_dependent/Members.t): Shifting and little tidy up of the members tests
22:39 cait       good night all
22:35 sekjal     goodnight, #koha!
22:24 Nate       Hi Chris!
22:24 chris      wb Nate
21:42 chris      cool
21:31 cait       chris: I think I found the patch - trying to figure it out
21:27 ronald     hiya chris
21:24 chris      hi ronald
21:18 cait       apparently it's all I am able to do ...
21:18 jcamins    cait++ # for cookies
21:17 jcamins    :D
21:17 jcamins    Thank you!
21:17 * cait     sends jcamins a big chocolate chip cookie
21:11 jcamins    Yes please.
21:11 cait       want a cookie?
21:11 cait       oh
21:11 jcamins    I hate it when I stop typing half-way through a word, and don't know what the word was supposed to be.
21:11 cait       not sure
21:10 jcamins    What am I doing?
21:09 cait       thx for trying ;)
21:09 jcamins    Well, as I said, I don't know much about budgets.
21:09 jcamins    cait: oh.
21:09 cait       so I don't even start talking about that ;)
21:09 cait       oh there is no way to add shipping costs at the moment
21:08 jcamins    (per-basket, not per-book, though)
21:08 jcamins    I'd think some libraries would include shipping in their budget.
21:08 jcamins    cait: I don't know much about budgets, but isn't shipping listed separately?
21:07 cait       just thinking loud so someone can disagree
21:07 cait       I think the budgeted cost should be what the library is going to pay for the book - I would think list price + gst - discount
21:07 cait       trying to understand jo's spreadsheet
21:06 chris      check the hlt branch
21:06 cait       ok
21:06 chris      if it exists it should be in there
21:06 chris      you could have a look in the git.catalyst repo too
21:06 cait       hmpf.
21:06 chris      2 weeks
21:06 cait       ook, when will robin be back? :)
21:05 * chris    has lost track, too much to keep track of, im down to just tracking things that are signed off
21:03 chris      you'll need to ask robin when he is back
21:00 cait       chris: any update on this? I am also not sure that gst really works - is this patch available somewhere?
20:58 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2865 major, P3, ---, chris, NEW, Acquisitions: GST not calculating correctly.
20:58 cait       chris: bug 2865
20:48 claudia    hi cait
20:47 cait       hi claudia
20:47 claudia    thanks
20:46 owen       /nick
20:46 mib_v56o2  nick/ claudia
20:46 mib_v56o2  nick\ claudia
20:18 cait       but I only get the discount calculated
20:18 cait       looking at the code I thought list price dont include + tax rate should work
20:18 cait       hmpf some ideas about tax?
20:16 paul_p     so don't expect me to be too efficient ;-)
20:16 paul_p     + looking at a match Marseille/Auxerre (semi final of the french league cup)
20:15 paul_p     ok, will continue with the "various" branches, but I have to file bugs before
20:15 chris      i got 6 mails paul_p
20:13 paul_p     but i've nothing in my own mailbox. (I was afraid to have a pb with smtp not enabled on my wifi)
20:13 paul_p     seems yes, they are in http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2011-January/thread.html
20:13 druthb     Hi, Nate, and the folks in CT!
20:11 jcamins    Hello, CT.
20:11 paul_p     chris, do you have recieved the 6 mails sent to koha-patches@koha-community.org now ?
20:11 cait       hello Nate and CT :)
20:10 owen       Hi CT!
20:10 cait       hello paul_p
20:10 paul_p     hello cait & Nate
20:10 Nate       say hi
20:10 Nate       demoing Koha to a library in CT!
20:10 chris      hi Nate
20:10 Nate       hi #koha
20:05 cait       yep, that was the problem
20:05 chris      cait: ahhh that would do it
20:05 chris      johnboy: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=422df40debd8cc46d085c7022056b84ff71583ee
20:05 cait       my euro rate as not set to 1
20:05 cait       ah, I think I found it
20:03 cait       at the moment I would be happy to talk about price calculation
20:03 cait       hehe
20:03 * jcamins  thinks it's probably good that it wasn't cait and jcamins... that would've been a lot of talk about analytics. ;)
20:02 chris      i got jcamins and wizzy to test they had 5 clones connected each, so i think should be ok :)
20:01 paul_p_    but will check later
20:01 paul_p_    well, in fact I can't check the limit is gone, because i'm in an hotel, not at office
20:00 paul_p_    chris++
19:59 * paul_p   checks immediatly
19:58 chris      paul_p: you shouldnt need to use mibbit anymore, i think ive fixed the limit on connections
19:58 chris      ill apply the 5575 ones to the branch and push it
19:53 paul_p     fixes for 5575 + patches for splitted biblibre_about branch
19:53 paul_p     i'm about to flood patches ml with patches ;-)
19:53 paul_p     hello world
19:42 cait       the last one, not 7.97
19:42 cait       7.87
19:42 cait       I get 10.0 8.74 - 7.97
19:41 cait       yeah, was testing robin's patch
19:40 chris      both of whom arent here
19:40 chris      hmm probably want one of the biblibre people, or robin
19:38 cait       can someone create a new order in koha head and tell me how the calculation works? i have tax and discount set to 10%
19:37 cait       I don't get it
19:33 chris      back
19:06 chris      My stop bbiab
18:37 sekjal     thanks, chris, have a good ride
18:36 chris      ok i have to go catch a bus, ill try to look more at work
18:36 chris      yeah, cos thats definitely working fine at hlt
18:36 pastebot   "chris" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "select * from accountlines whe" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/124
18:35 sekjal     wait, no, I'm seeing fines from 19-01
18:35 chris      fines.pl runs at 1.05am ive found
18:35 chris      ?
18:35 chris      no fines
18:35 chris      right so its all items
18:34 cait       have you checked the calculation in fines.pl?
18:34 sekjal     I'm not seeing new fines with dates after the new year.  lost item charges and the like, sure, but not new fines charges
18:33 ibot       chris is awesome or a real world traveller
18:33 cait       chris ?
18:32 sekjal     noFinesWhenClosed
18:32 cait       what is your finescalendar setting?
18:31 chris      is it only ones that were due last year that are problem?
18:31 sekjal     I believe so... let me confirm
18:31 chris      is it doing fines for new ones?
18:30 chris      i dont think so
18:30 chris      weird
18:28 sekjal     does HLT use the calendars for calculating fines?
18:25 sekjal     for dates from last year, the timestamp get stuck on the last day they were open; no more updates are made by fines.pl, just sometimes by librarians.
18:24 sekjal     ok
18:24 chris      yup
18:24 sekjal     chris: does your fines.pl script run around 8:30am?
18:23 chris      running some sql like that might help you
18:23 pastebot   "chris" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "Fines" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/123
18:21 sekjal     this is freakin' weird
18:21 sekjal     thanks for checking, chris.
18:20 chris      sekjal: it seems ok at hlt
18:20 cait       hm and my report was not paginating... it was really time to leave
18:17 cait       but this fines and notices will drive me crazy one day
18:16 chris      good idea
18:16 cait       wanted to check again tomorrow with standard set too
18:16 cait       in the library's calendar
18:16 cait       yep
18:12 chris      and you have all sundays set in the calendar as a holiday eh?
18:11 cait       decided to go home after I saw that in my report
18:11 cait       sekjal: got a fine on a sunday today! have to check again tomorrow :( finesCalendar was set to noFinesWhenclosed
18:11 chris      it shouldnt care about the date the fine started, but the date the item is due
18:10 sekjal     I had one client notice this, and I think I've found the same behaviour on another server
18:09 sekjal     thanks, chris
18:09 chris      ill go look in a couple of dbs
18:09 chris      none of my clients have advised me otherwise, and it would be the first year that ever happened if it wasnt
18:08 sekjal     can anyone confirm that fines originally posted in 2010 are still accruing in 2011?
18:08 chris      http://www.wetafx.co.nz/about/
18:07 cait       weta?
18:07 chris      then they are off to weta for the afternoon
18:07 chris      yep, for the morning
18:05 cait       academy today? :)
18:04 cait       ok
18:04 chris      yes, but we need one for the sco bit
18:04 cait       for sip you can do that in the config file
18:02 chris      i do think there should be a pref to disable checkins on self check though
17:54 * cait     talks to herself ;)
17:47 cait       I think most libraries will allow you to check out the book again when nobody has a reserve on it and you have showed it to them once
17:46 cait       if you want to prevent them from doing that
17:46 cait       wizzyrea: I think it's agood feature, but perhaps we need to add a pref to check for "had item checked out until renewal limit on the same day" or something like that
17:46 cait       wizzyrea: we do check-ins on the self-check
17:45 cait       reading back
17:39 cait       hi #koha
17:35 munin      chris_n: The operation succeeded.  Quote #115 added.
17:35 chris_n    @quote add chris: friends don't let friends use proprietary software.
17:28 jcamins    Looks like it.
17:28 jcamins    Did I get all of my clones?
17:28 * jwagner  goes back to arguing with data mapping now, sigh
17:28 jwagner    And I thought we could get five times the work done....
17:27 chris_n    :)
17:27 chris_n    quitters!
17:27 chris      thanks for testing
17:27 chris      cool, time to go put out the rubbish, and make the kids breakfast
17:27 * jwagner  pokes head in, sees lots of clones!
17:27 liz1       omg there are so many of me
17:27 chris_n    with so many people
17:27 chris      so looks fixed to me
17:27 * chris_n  thinks we can really get things done now
17:27 chris      used to be 4
17:26 liz2       I have 5, what was teh limit
17:26 jcamins    How many of me are connected now?
17:26 * chris_n  will have to investigate further, but there does not appear to be such a syspref
17:25 chris      seems to from here, but i want signoff :-)
17:25 wizzyrea   un moment
17:25 chris      so can anyone confirm the multiple connects from the same ip/subnet to irc now works?
17:23 jcamins    :)
17:23 wizzyrea   better than acute, I guess.
17:22 * wizzyrea might be feeling obtuse.
17:22 wizzyrea   why not?
17:22 jcamins    I was asking more generally, why?
17:22 wizzyrea   lol
17:22 jcamins    No, *that* I understood.
17:22 wizzyrea   and you might go a bit batty.
17:22 wizzyrea   because it's 11 minutes of zoidberg going woop woop woop
17:21 jcamins    wizzyrea: why?
17:21 wizzyrea   (please don't watch the whole thing)
17:21 wizzyrea   this noise
17:21 wizzyrea   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R97Ao5e3m5E&feature=related
17:20 chris      is what i want checked :)
17:20 chris      it might be that you have to turn it off ... you should have to turn it on
17:19 chris      but it should be off by default
17:19 chris      maybe
17:19 chris_n    chris: isn't there a syspref to control that?
17:19 chris_n    also allows circumvention of the renewal limits
17:19 chris      should be off by default
17:19 * wizzyrea makes the zoidberg noise: "woop woop woop woop"
17:18 chris_n    yup
17:18 chris      checkin and then leave with the book
17:18 chris_n    very
17:18 chris      yeah sounds dangerous
17:18 wizzyrea   apparently you can with the builtin sco
17:18 wizzyrea   jcamins: not on ours you can't
17:18 wizzyrea   hehe
17:18 jcamins    wizzyrea: you can check *in* with a self check-out machine?
17:18 chris_n    is it time to quit yet?
17:18 chris      that makes sense to me
17:18 wizzyrea   so that to check in the book had to go through a staff member :)
17:18 chris_n    arghh!! :-P
17:17 wizzyrea   chris_n: true, but you were wanting to limit checkIN's
17:17 chris_n    so sco really needs a feature that prevents checking out an item that is over its renewal limit
17:17 chris_n    wizzyrea: preventing checkouts would sort of defeat the purpose of having a self-checkout.... :-S
17:17 chris      yeah
17:16 wizzyrea   o
17:16 jcamins    IRC.
17:16 wizzyrea   connect to what?
17:16 ibot       wizzyrea: I forgot limit
17:16 wizzyrea   ibot forget limit
17:16 ibot       it has been said that limit is there.
17:16 chris_n    chris: limit?
17:15 * chris_n  need to have his head checked
17:15 * chris    thinks he has changed that limit
17:14 chris      or anyone for that matter
17:13 chris      can you try connecting more than 4 times now?
17:13 chris      hdl: do you have a minute?
17:10 chris_n    hehe
17:10 wizzyrea   properly spelled, of course
17:09 wizzyrea   probalby
17:09 wizzyrea   that would be your best immediate solution
17:09 chris_n    we probably should disallow checkins via self-checkout
17:09 wizzyrea   and I believe it works as you expect it to
17:09 chris_n    right
17:09 * wizzyrea notes that her machines are not using the builtin selfcheck, do it through SIP
17:08 chris_n    there's a syspref for it
17:08 wizzyrea   and you'd have to talk to a person
17:08 chris_n    iirc one can forbid a patron from checking in using self-checkout
17:08 wizzyrea   you can renew, but once you hit the limit it disallows it
17:07 wizzyrea   at least on our RFID machines, you can't check in from the kiosk
17:07 chris_n    right
17:07 * chris_n  wonders how many libraries use self-checkout
17:07 wizzyrea   right?
17:07 wizzyrea   this is the builtin self check, not a RFID one
17:07 wizzyrea   I think I agree with that
17:07 chris_n    that's the behavior I would expect
17:06 wizzyrea   maybe the selfcheck needs to honor that, to make it so that a staff person has to check it in and out again
17:06 chris_n    seems a bug to me then
17:06 wizzyrea   right
17:06 chris_n    but not through self-checkout
17:06 wizzyrea   through the opac
17:06 wizzyrea   it's to keep someone from renewing an item indefinitely
17:06 wizzyrea   well no
17:05 chris_n    so in reality, renewal limits are only to accommodate holds?
17:03 chris_n    back, sorry
17:01 kf         bye all - coworker waiting for me
17:01 kf         will try to write him this week when vendor has tested
17:01 kf         updated bug - but I see now that I didn#t mention the "checkout with reserve"
17:00 kf         hi chris
17:00 kf         have to go now - getting late - see you all a bit later
17:00 chris      you might need to bug colin about that
17:00 kf         wizzyrea: perhaps I missed something, hope they will test tomorrow and we will know more
16:58 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3638 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Status of hold not changed when item checked in via SIP2 Interface
16:58 kf         bug 3638
16:57 wizzyrea   hmmm
16:57 kf         tested with 3.2.1 I think
16:57 wizzyrea   ok
16:57 wizzyrea   yea
16:57 wizzyrea   ohh
16:57 kf         3.1.61
16:57 wizzyrea   3.2 version?
16:56 wizzyrea   :(
16:56 wizzyrea   that makes me feel very unhappy :)
16:56 kf         but the tests we did looked not very promising :(
16:56 kf         we are waiting for the rfid vendor do some tests now
16:56 wizzyrea   yes, that
16:56 wizzyrea   if a reserve is placed
16:56 kf         with :)
16:56 wizzyrea   er
16:56 wizzyrea   because ours won't let you check something out without a reserve
16:56 * wizzyrea is suddenly unsure that all of our dev escaped
16:55 wizzyrea   I thought that was fixed
16:55 kf         yep
16:55 wizzyrea   kf really?
16:55 wizzyrea   ther'es nothing that keeps someone from doing that
16:55 kf         at least this is what happens at our self check stations (rfid/sip2) because the item does not go into waiting
16:55 kf         but: the problem is he will even be able to check the item out again if there is a reserve (using selfcheck)
16:54 kf         otherwise he could come back the next day... only annoying for the borrower
16:54 kf         but if there is no reserve on it it's probably not really a problem?
16:54 kf         I think nothing
16:54 kf         hm
16:53 chris_n    circ rules question; given a self-checkout setup: if a patron runs up against their renewal limit, what's to keep them from checkin/checkout and circumvent the renewal limit?
16:33 fcapo      ok
16:33 hdl        one of the reasois
16:32 fcapo      so that's the reason they stayed with GRS-1?
16:32 hdl        using the XML returned by zebra could be a way... But it is s l o    w
16:31 hdl        We have had the same problem and would be induced into either get the MARC::File::XML or reduce the count of items (usually it is because the record contains XXXXXXXXX items)
16:30 hdl        But that would not abide by the normalization
16:29 hdl        It should take tag/subfield characters and decode.
16:29 hdl        to build the structure.
16:28 hdl        in fact, I think that MARC::Record should not rely on directory
16:28 hdl        yes.
16:28 fcapo      XML doesn't look at the size information of the leader, that's why it can go over the limit.
16:27 fcapo      then problem is that I receive the search results in MARC when they should be in XML. If a record goes over the limit of 99999 characters, I don't receive the full record because the size information of the leader is incorrect.
16:25 fcapo      tried with -k 50000 then did a rebuild_zebra.pl . It changed nothing.
16:21 fcapo      hdl: I'll look into that option, thanks for the feedback
16:19 hdl        You may want to use the zebrasrv with -k 50000
16:19 ibot       i already had it that way, hdl.
16:19 hdl        and the limit is there.
16:19 hdl        fcapo: it is using GRS-1 for biblio records
16:19 hdl        fcapo: yes...
16:19 hdl        You may want to use the zebrasrv with -k 50000
16:19 hdl        and the limit is there.
16:19 hdl        fcapo: it is using GRS-1 for biblio records
16:19 hdl        fcapo: yes...
16:15 kf         sorry fcapo - have not run into that
16:15 fcapo      see: http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/Net-Z3950-ZOOM/lib/ZOOM.pod#raw%28%29
16:14 fcapo      So when I get the search results from Zebra, I get them in MARC format and not XML, so the 99999 characters limit kicks back and the search result is broken.
16:12 fcapo      for biblio records that is...
16:12 fcapo      Koha seems to be configured to use GSR-1 and not DOM for Zebra indexations
16:09 fcapo      I use -x option on rebuild zebra so it can index the records that go over that limit, but those records show "No title"
16:08 fcapo      The problem happens on marc records that go over the 99999 characters limit of the MARC format.
16:06 fcapo      Koha version 3.02.02.001
16:06 fcapo      Hello, I'm having a problem with my search results right now. Some search results show "No title" and they have no biblionumber.
15:56 wizzyrea   well that was not what I intended to do
15:55 wizzyrea   good morning
14:47 jcamins    Hello, owen, sekjal, and kf.
14:40 sekjal     hi, kf!
14:39 kf         hi sekjal and jcamins
14:37 sekjal     howdy, jcamins, owen, hdl!
14:36 owen       Hi jcamins
14:34 jcamins    Good morning, #koha
14:09 hdl        still confused why would the irc connections per ip be limited to 3 connections
14:08 hdl        hi owen
14:08 owen       Hi everyone
14:08 kf         hi hdl
14:08 hdl        hi
10:40 paul_p     ok, time to go to catch my train... good night to kiwis/aussies, good day to others
09:23 paul_p     owen++
09:23 paul_p     and I missed all of those comments.
09:22 chris      i think that branch is getting pretty close to being mergeable
09:22 paul_p     owen++
09:22 kf         owen++
09:22 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5575 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, 3.4 BibLibre circ & members improvements
09:22 chris      its hard to update the bug, cos the bug covers a lot of things
09:22 kf         yep, bug 5575
09:22 paul_p     yep kf, me too, i'll check again
09:21 kf         I remember seeing a lotof mails
09:21 kf         I am not sure, but I think the bug got updated as well
09:21 chris      hopefully that wont happen anymore
09:21 chris      well normally feedback would go on the bug, but most of these dont have bugs
09:15 * paul_p   will check again [maybe we have too many sources : wiki, bz, mls ...]
09:15 chris      on the wiki i think
09:14 paul_p     which one ? [i've read some and think I fixed them, but may have missed something]
09:13 chris      nope, still waiting on sign off on them, you read owens feedback eh?
09:13 paul_p     2nd question = any news from integration of other branches ? [I have had no more feedback from anyone]
09:13 paul_p     ok, will do that.
09:12 chris      git send-email then hopefully ppl will sign off on them
09:10 ivanc      hallo kf :)
09:10 * paul_p   tend to go git-send-email
09:09 paul_p     I've a question for you : i've splitted biblibre-various in 20 very small branches, with 2-3 patches each. Do you prefer a pull request for each of them or a git send-email ?
09:09 chris      paul_p: busy but good
09:08 ibot       chris is awesome or a real world traveller
09:08 paul_p     chris ?
09:05 paul_p     hello chris. How are things in NZ ?
08:52 chris      http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/HTML_Report/?  <-- check it out, 49.2% subroutine coverage, im aiming for 80% eventually but as long as it keeps going up im happy
08:49 * kf       waves to ivanc
08:39 paul_p     'morning ivanc -at least if you're from Europe/Africa- otherwise good afternoon, evening or whatever ;-)
08:39 paul_p     next week in Lille once again
08:39 ivanc      hallo #koha
08:38 paul_p     kf, yep, my wife think i'm travelling too much...
08:38 hudsonbot  Chris Cormack: Bug 4289: Updating other sysprefs until we change the installer, we need to do this
08:38 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #307: FIXED in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/307/
08:38 hudsonbot  Yippie, build fixed!
08:35 kf         paul_p: you are travelling a lot! but still 355km away from me google maps says
08:15 hudsonbot  Starting build 307 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #305 6 hr 53 min ago)
08:08 paul_p     i'm in Metz, near germany ;-)
08:08 paul_p     'morning kf
08:04 * kf       wonders what cait was doing here...
08:04 kf         morning paul_p
08:01 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4289: Updating other sysprefs until we change the installer, we need to do this <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce5bf27254f405e622efa3283708b01892c28bdf>
07:59 kf         unit_tests++ :)
07:59 kf         huh?
07:57 chris      ibeardsle: europe coming online :)
07:57 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages
07:57 CIA-1      Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_4289 * rv3.02.00-561-gce5bf27 10/installer/data/mysql/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Bug 4289: Updating other sysprefs until we change the installer, we need to do this
07:55 ibeardsle  this the 2nd shift starting?
07:51 kf         morning #koha
07:45 chris      evening all
07:24 cait       bye all
07:19 cait       hi Amit
07:15 Amit       heya cait
07:06 cait       hi francharb
06:58 francharb  hello #koha
06:53 cait       good morning #koha
06:18 chris      Good idea :)
06:17 ibeardsle  chris: johnboy's had a unit test that was returning -19 as an age .. maybe walk him through getting a bug filed ;)
05:10 Oak        \o
05:00 chris      ibeardsle: yes, I would
03:42 ibeardsle  would people consider the system accepting a birthdate in the future a bug?
03:32 Amit       heya all
03:09 havergara  <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="charge" -->
03:09 havergara  this i think is the one causing the display issue
03:09 Silens     claudia?
03:07 ibot       rumour has it chris is awesome or a real world traveller
03:07 havergara  chris?
03:04 havergara  i think thats supposed to be filled in the catalog record?
02:57 glernil    how can i show the call number of the biblio in the opac?
02:57 glernil    good day!
02:56 chris      claudia: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160
02:54 havergara  let me just see if i can fix that issue :D
02:53 havergara  yes i believe it is
02:51 chris      so its just a display issue on the summary page
02:50 wasabi     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
02:50 chris      and the bug is fairly minor, as the fines are actually being levied
02:50 wasabi     and experiment with upgrading it to 3.2
02:49 chris      yes you should definitely do the update on a test one first
02:49 wasabi     so, set up a test koha….
02:48 wasabi     $ git reset —hard v3.02.00-rc
02:48 havergara  and i havent any experience yet in upgrading...
02:48 havergara  their going to kill me haha
02:48 havergara  but my 3.0 is already implemented
02:48 havergara  hmmmm
02:47 chris      3.2.3 will be released on the 22nd
02:47 havergara  o ok...
02:47 chris      3.2.2 is the latest stable release
02:47 havergara  what is the latest stable version of koha anyway?
02:47 havergara  :s:/
02:47 chris      and probably is already fixed in 3.2.x and 3.4
02:46 chris      so yeah, that might be a bug, but 3.0.x is no longer developed, so it wont be fixed
02:46 chris      ok
02:46 havergara  wasabi hahaha
02:46 havergara  but if i go to the my fines, the fine is already showing
02:46 havergara  i mean on summary, if i go to summary, it says under fines "No"
02:45 chris      but it is showing in staff?
02:44 havergara  there under fines, still "No" is placed
02:44 wasabi     havergara: i think chris is whispering you "update your koha to 3.2-stable" :)
02:44 havergara  and went to my fines
02:44 havergara  so i went to the OPAC
02:44 havergara  ok i see
02:43 chris      the price column there is for the price of the book
02:43 chris      they only show on the accounts page
02:43 chris      not the fines
02:43 chris      thats replacement price
02:43 havergara  under charge
02:43 havergara  there you can see the fields: ITEM TYPE, TITLE, CHECKED OUT ON, DUE DATE, CHARGE, and PRICE
02:42 havergara  on the cheked out area
02:42 havergara  on the checked out are
02:41 chris      i dont know, i havent looked at 3.0.x in over a year
02:41 havergara  over the patron details
02:41 havergara  i mean in the staff client
02:41 chris      yes FU is from overdues
02:41 havergara  hey why is it located on the total and not in line with the book record
02:40 havergara  but
02:40 havergara  i think its a fine from overdues of books\
02:40 havergara  yeah!wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...!
02:39 havergara  ok ok...:)
02:39 chris      (or in the staff interface)
02:38 chris      cool, what is the borrowernumber? try looking at that borrower in the opac
02:38 havergara  there is a record just added
02:38 chris      Fine Unpaid
02:38 havergara  what is account type "FU"
02:36 havergara  and heres an update to the records inside accountlines
02:35 havergara  do you think thats the problem?\
02:35 havergara  o...yeah i think i really dont have that
02:35 chris      one is 'calculate and charge'
02:34 chris      in 3.2.x there are 3 settings you can choose for finesmode
02:34 havergara  by the way, chris what do you mean i have no setting for calculate and charge?
02:34 eter       ok never mind found it ....codes
02:33 havergara  wt heck..hehe
02:33 havergara  i did already posted a load there but my account up to now is not accepted
02:33 eter       hey system.prefs> opacheader is that for links to customization files or is it for direct codes?
02:32 havergara  aw :s
02:32 chris      you are probably best to ask on the mailing list
02:32 chris      havergara: i have no idea for 3.0.6
02:32 havergara  sir can i request you to guide me to step by step set my fines preferences pls?:)
02:32 chris      eter: pretty good so far
02:32 eter       hey chris how is your new yaer?
02:31 havergara  it can only detect that a certain patron has overdues and those overdues are the dues made in Account management and Reserve Charge
02:31 chris      havergara: there is no setting for calculate and charge
02:31 eter       hey yall ... took a loong holiday break
02:30 havergara  we executed the fines.pl in the server and the result was it ca detect the patron having fines but then i think the computation is not done
02:29 havergara  a ok...uhm it is set to production
02:28 havergara  so this is the situation im into
02:28 chris      yep, what is the systempreference for finesMode set to?
02:28 havergara  sorry for the delay on reply
02:28 havergara  i a,went to our server\
02:28 havergara  sir chris
02:28 havergara  hello
02:24 chris      what is that set to?
02:24 chris      check the setting for finesMode
02:22 chris      you need to check your system preferences
02:21 havergara  im screwed..hehe!
02:21 havergara  OMG
02:21 havergara  the only things showing in my accountlines table are the charging of reservation and membership if im not mistaken...
02:20 havergara  o,,no sir...if i do the fines.pl by hand, it shows computation but there are no records entered to the accountlines
02:19 chris      all fines.pl should do, is put rows into accountlines
02:19 chris      if not, then either its not working or the rules are not set up right
02:19 havergara  but if i check on the staff and OPAC...no fines appears
02:19 chris      i mean does it put rows into accountlines
02:19 havergara  i just did that too awhile ago
02:19 havergara  it works
02:19 havergara  yes sir
02:18 chris      if you run fines.pl by hand, does it work?
02:18 havergara  my koha 3 seems to not have this file
02:18 chris      or fines.pl
02:18 havergara  where can i find this fine2.pl
02:18 chris      thats where they are stored
02:18 chris      ahh, well then it sounds like fines2.pl is not putting the fines in
02:17 havergara  i just checked
02:17 havergara  im sorry for that
02:17 chris      oh, i thought you said there was?
02:17 havergara  there is no record for that user in the accountlines
02:17 chris      havergara: i know that fines definitely show in all the 3.2.x releases
02:17 havergara  a chris sir...
02:16 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Bug 4289: Bumping version number up
02:16 hudsonbot  * Fr?d?ric Demians: Bug 4289 Followup: Add syspref default value and in opac.pref
02:16 hudsonbot  * Mason James: Bug 4289: 'OpacPublic' feature
02:16 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #306: UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/306/
02:16 havergara  there are some which have the same situation as mine on the forums but there are no folow ups as to if those problems have already fixed
02:15 havergara  no sir...it says the same...
02:15 chris      i havent heard this bug reported before, but 3.0.6 is pretty old now, so it may have been fixed
02:14 chris      if you look at the patron in the staff side, does it show the fines?
02:14 claudia    its true
02:13 havergara  version 3.00.06.010
02:13 Spartanes  Chris is teaching us to typo in commits.
02:13 chris      what version of Koha
02:13 havergara  yes there is
02:13 chris      for that borrower
02:13 chris      is there lines in your accountlines table?
02:12 claudia    the apologies about the typo was from me fyi >.< sorry about that.
02:12 havergara  the item is supposed to be overdued over two days already
02:12 havergara  but when i go to the OPAC and see the overdued items a patron borrowed, it says under fines field: NO
02:11 havergara  and the computation of fines according to the log on the server is functioning well
02:11 chris      ok
02:11 havergara  everything is set accordingly,, the cronjob for fines.pl is already running
02:10 havergara  my problem involves the fines in my KOHA system
02:10 havergara  i was asking for help for around sometime already no one is responding :s
02:09 havergara  sorry
02:09 ibeardsle  no-one can help anyone without knowing what the problem is and what has been done to sort it out
02:09 chris      whats your problem? we wont know if we can help until we know what the issue is
02:08 havergara  hello guys can you please healp me?
02:08 mib_glrnd  sorry about the typo by the way >.<
01:51 havergara  :s
01:51 hudsonbot  Starting build 306 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED)
01:50 havergara  T_T
01:50 havergara  no one online?
01:50 hudsonbot  Project Koha_Master build #305: FIXED in 28 min: http://hudson.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/305/
01:50 hudsonbot  Yippie, build fixed!
01:44 havergara  can someone help me with my problem please?
01:44 havergara  hello
01:42 CIA-1      Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_5628 * rv3.02.00-562-gbe1a194 10/ (85 files in 4 dirs): New icon set, renaming and making files in the intranet too
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01:36 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4289: Bumping version number up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5c0b2a4be9c14efef5c4127af01a035a8f29f71> / Bug 4289 Followup: Add syspref default value and in opac.pref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b63a2ae03fa015e8f5304871385decb25398a5f4> / Bug 4289: 'OpacPublic' feature <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f46b03cf2da045c7
01:33 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages
01:33 CIA-1      Koha: 03chrisc 07new/enh/bug_4289 * rv3.02.00-560-gd5c0b2a 10/ (installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl kohaversion.pl): Bug 4289: Bumping version number up
01:24 munin      chris: The operation succeeded.
01:24 chris      @later tell jcamins if you want a patch to make it into my list, make sure you set the bug to signed-off .. this is your one freebie :)
01:22 hudsonbot  Starting build 305 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #296 1 day 2 hr ago)
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01:21 chris      !hudson build koha_master now
01:12 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 - Now we are doing db calls, we need to shift this to t/db_dependent
01:12 hudsonbot  * Zach Sim: Added unit tests to test all of get_amazon_tld in Amazon.pm.
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00:46 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327 - Now we are doing db calls, we need to shift this to t/db_dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e03026adffe58561db842f7dcf8dcb064539b224> / Added unit tests to test all of get_amazon_tld in Amazon.pm. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b56121db026837e3d6d6e7e7f3800d7a5b92923c>
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