IRC log for #koha, 2010-12-11

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01:01 brendan night all - heading home :)
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05:27 kmkale good morning #koha
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06:17 cait morning #koha
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06:26 kmkale morning cait
06:26 cait hi kmkale :)
06:26 kmkale are you aware of any RFC / enhancement in works for adding local cover images support?
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06:32 cait kmkale: I think someone wrote on the mailing list about it some time ago - but I don't remember a rfc on the wiki
06:33 kmkale I am searching the wiki then will search the lists. I have just received a sponsor for the feature
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06:33 cait hey, that's cool :)
06:33 kmkale :)
06:34 cait I think somethink like - check local - check online (amazon, google books...) would be good
06:34 cait have koha use a local picture if one exists and a online picture else
06:34 kmkale Yup. I will send out a email on devel soon with the scope of work requesting for comments and suggestions
06:35 kmkale just checking if someone had any ideas concerning this already in a rfc.
06:35 kmkale will also put a rfc in wiki today
06:42 kmkale bug 1633
06:42 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Add ability to take book cover images from local img db
06:42 cait ah, bugzilla
06:42 cait really old suggestion
06:42 kmkale also a nice discussion here[…]l/3365/focus=3367
06:43 cait I am looking at some old bugs right now
06:43 cait perhaps we can lower the open bugs countn a little :)
06:45 kmkale good for weekend
06:50 cait kmkale: what time is it for you now?
06:50 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:50 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7�C (7:50 AM CET on December 11, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady).
06:50 kmkale 12.22pm
06:50 kmkale @weather Mumbai
06:50 cait ah
06:50 munin kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 25.0�C (11:40 AM IST on December 11, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
06:51 cait 7:52am
06:51 kmkale munin your time is off
06:51 munin kmkale: Error: "your" is not a valid command.
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06:59 chris its the time it got the weather report, not what time it thinks it is
07:02 cait hi chris
07:03 kmkale aahh
07:03 kmkale hi chris
07:05 cait @wunder wellington, nz
07:05 munin cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (7:00 PM NZDT on December 11, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
07:40 cait looks like the reports module is a translation nightmare :(
07:42 cait oh yes
07:42 cait harcoded strings everywhere but not in the templates
07:42 cait *sighs*
07:49 * cait gets a headache from looking at it
07:55 kmkale new server got koha via git clone. make test fails Error:  Access denied for user 'booksnmore'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /home/booksnmore/kohaclone/blib​/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/ line 692. I am able to login to mysql suing same credentials :(
08:17 cait sorry kmkale -have to run
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08:17 kmkale bye
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09:35 kmkale it seems if I have a # in mysql password, mysql is happy but koha test fails
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12:07 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha -  Koha 3.2.1 is Now Available - Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
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13:34 nengard anyone around?
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13:59 jcamins_a nengard: Kind of.
13:59 nengard jcamins i think i'm okay now
13:59 jcamins_a Good. :)
14:03 jcamins_a Anyone know anything about the main page of the OPAC not working on IE?
14:05 jcamins_a The sidebar is all jumbled over the main page.
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14:13 nengard jcamins we had a few issues in ie8
14:13 nengard but that doesn't sound familiar
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14:17 jcamins_a I guess I'll need to get Windows installed in a VM so I can test.
14:21 nengard ick
14:22 jcamins_a Well, that's a project for another day.
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14:28 eric_b jcamins_a, we think alike :) (ref: Covers images)
14:33 kmkale jcamins_a eric_b you think a file system storage will be better that mysql?
14:34 eric_b is now known as ebegin
14:35 ebegin kmkale, you would store the files in mysql directly? this may be ok for small catalogue, but i don't know what the performances would be for a large one
14:36 ebegin It also depends of the size of the images.
14:39 kmkale ebegin: yes i am inclined towards storing in mysql.
14:40 kmkale isn't that waht we are doing with patron images?
14:44 kmkale brb
14:53 jcamins_a is now known as jcamins
14:53 jcamins kmkale: I would prefer a file system storage.
14:54 jcamins ebegin: Here's an example of what you're talking about:[…]pl?biblionumber=1
14:54 jcamins There's actually a 563u, so I would prefer to see the URL put in there, if a URL is entered directly.
14:55 jcamins However, I think it would be better if the cataloger didn't have to specify the cover image.
14:55 jcamins Perhaps a syspref "use 563u or use MARC tag"?
14:58 kmkale ebegin: the catalouge looks nice :)
14:59 jcamins kmkale: if you're talking about the C & P demo catalogue, that's mine. ;)
14:59 kmkale thats still loading jcamins slow internet here
15:00 jcamins Okay.
15:00 kmkale i am talking about the link to a canadian catalouge ebegin sent
15:00 * jcamins goes looking for this e-mail...
15:00 kmkale[…]
15:01 jcamins Nice!
15:02 jcamins Really, *really* nice.
15:02 jcamins Anyway, if you'd like to canibalize (however you spell that) any of my image library functionality:[…]ree/image_library
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15:25 kmkale oops never realised i had got disconnected :(
15:26 kmkale thanks jcamins will dig into that
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15:48 cait hi #koha :)
15:53 cait hm nobody here
15:57 kmkale hi cait
15:58 cait hi kmkale
15:59 kmkale :)
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16:28 * druthb waves
16:31 cait hi druthb
16:37 kmkale hey druthb ;)
16:37 druthb hi, cait and kmkale.  :)
16:40 ebegin kmkale, thanks :) This is a organisation that lends art pieces.
16:46 kmkale ebegin: i cant see logo/watermark on the images
16:50 ebegin It is more visible in the detail bib.  for exeample:[…]biblionumber=3233
16:50 ebegin It's a watermark
16:50 ebegin kindof
16:56 kmkale cool
17:05 kmkale ebegin: i like the details page even better
17:18 cait doesn' t load for me :(
17:18 cait ah now it did
17:18 cait tried several times a few minutes ago
17:20 cait very cool
17:24 cait beautiful
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17:52 ebegin thanks! :)
17:53 cait :)
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17:53 * cait waves to jcamins
17:56 kmkale bye all. good night
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18:32 cait chris_n: around?
18:35 cait nengard: around?
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19:00 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5467: Kits shown wrong as visual material in XSLT displays <[…]98f208e5da588f7e5> / Bug 5446 Item creation in Acquisition module doesn't control mandatory field <[…]19475e73177763916> / Add BSZ to Koha's About page <
19:00 hudsonbot Starting build 191 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 4 days 22 hr ago)
19:01 cait hi chris
19:01 cait !hudson botsnack lebkuchen
19:01 hudsonbot cait: you're so kind to me! I could eat lebkuchen all day long
19:02 cait me too hudson... me too
19:05 chris Hi cait
19:06 * cait waves
19:06 cait another patch in koha
19:06 * cait makes a little dance
19:06 chris 2 in fact
19:06 cait does a little dance? nah, I really can't dance, so it doesn't matter
19:06 chris Heh
19:06 cait right :)
19:06 chris Does
19:07 cait how is your weekend?
19:07 cait kmkale signed-off on deletedborrowers...
19:07 chris Cool haven't got there yet
19:08 chris Colin signed off tons to
19:08 cait he send it as attached file to the list
19:08 cait yep, he as really busy
19:08 cait I was going to sign off on nengard's bug 1997
19:08 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1997 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW, sys pref to Edit no results found page
19:08 cait wondering about the sys pref part
19:08 cait should I write a follow up patch to add it to all the sql files?
19:08 cait how do we deal with that now?
19:08 chris Yes please
19:09 cait ok, will sign-off with a note and send a follow up
19:09 chris It needs to be in the sql
19:09 cait I rebased it, but only had to change the order in updatadatabase
19:09 chris Else, if someone installs fresh
19:09 chris It won't work
19:09 cait he will miss it
19:09 cait yeah, I know
19:09 cait we have a loooot of missing things
19:09 sekjal oooh, one of my devs depends on 1997, as I recall
19:10 chris Yep
19:10 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for 4832 - Re-editing a suggestion changes the item type <[…]3fcd498f81ad7d5df>
19:10 cait some are even missing from prefs - chris_n did some work on that, but didn't manage to talk with him about it yet
19:10 chris Least we have the test to complain about missing ones now
19:10 cait he is hiding from me or something... *looks around*
19:10 cait yeah, but it will complain a lot today
19:10 cait hi sekjal :)
19:11 sekjal looks like I'll be reimplementing the opac privacy enhancement paul_p originally did last year
19:11 sekjal hi, cait
19:11 cait so is it ok if I do as I said? or do you see a problem?
19:11 cait sekjal++
19:11 sekjal (I bring up opacprivacy because it involved a lot of edits to the sql files)
19:12 cait yeah, it's no fun at the moment - but I think we should maintain thefiles as long as there is no other solution
19:13 cait my work on 1997 ok with you sekjal?
19:13 chris 10 missing ones
19:13 chris So we should be able to fix them, and fix the languages
19:13 chris But now kahu has stolen my laptop to play gcompris
19:13 chris So I'm using the phone
19:13 cait I started looking on old bugs yesterday... lots of lost kittens
19:13 chris So no more patches for a little bit
19:14 sekjal cait:  yes, please, rebase and signoff
19:14 cait sekjal: ok :)
19:14 sekjal I need to rebase that dev, anyway, and if we can get that part of high enough quality to add to Koha, it'll make my life that much simpler
19:14 cait chris: you could try to make a deal with him, maybe offer chocolate or something?
19:15 cait sekjal: now you are confusing me :)
19:15 sekjal cait:  sorry
19:15 cait ah, happens a lot
19:15 cait but normally Brooke is around ;)
19:16 sekjal the dev I'm talking about is not quite publish-level.  I'm going to do some cleanup, rebase it onto 3.2, and get it ready for submission
19:16 * sekjal 's goal is to get as much signed-off on and into Koha as possible before releasing it to clients
19:16 cait :)
19:17 cait yeah, we have a similar rule - trying to do no customizations
19:17 cait but we have no real development projects, so it's much easier
19:18 cait and bywater++
19:18 chris If you rebase on master, that would be cool
19:19 chris chris_n cherry-picks from master
19:20 chris The longer we can do this the less chance we have of features sneaking into 3.2 and not master
19:20 chris Happened with 3.0 and is a mess to fix
19:20 cait yeah :(
19:20 cait like recent acquisitions
19:21 cait chris: ah, I saw that you are still the default assignee in bugzilla for I18N issues
19:21 cait chris: can you change it to fredericd?
19:21 cait I made the mistake to look at guided reports earlier today...
19:22 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build #191: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/191/
19:22 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Add BSZ to Koha's About page
19:22 hudsonbot * f.demians at Bug 5446 Item creation in Acquisition module doesn't control mandatory field
19:22 hudsonbot * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5467: Kits shown wrong as visual material in XSLT displays
19:22 hudsonbot * Owen Leonard: Fix for 4832 - Re-editing a suggestion changes the item type
19:22 chris Will do
19:23 chris Cait: I think we should remove all of guided reports
19:23 chris Except the sql bit
19:23 cait that's a solution too...
19:23 chris Its not actually useful
19:23 chris Brb getting atarau breakfast
19:24 chris But I might ask on list if ppl use it
19:24 chris I hate it and I wrote it initially (under protest I might add)
19:24 cait I think it has a lot of translation issues
19:24 cait can't say much about functionality
19:24 cait my libary asked about it. but I kind of refused to train them - because I have to figure it out myself first
19:25 cait not really refusing - but telling them that I have to look at it first
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19:26 cait chris: why do you hate it?
19:27 chris Its reinventing the wheel in a bad way
19:28 chris There are tools for reporting against an sql db
19:28 chris That do a much better job
19:28 chris You can't create a good report without understanding the koha db anywya
19:29 chris So you may as well use the sql bit, or a better repprting tool
19:29 chris The guided one just allows to create really simple and mostly useless reports
19:36 cait hm, the bug report I closed earlier today seems to indicate people are using it - or at least trying to
19:37 chris Yep I think wed be better finding a good free software tool
19:37 chris And telling ppl to use it
19:38 chris They have stuff like compound reports and graphs etc
19:38 cait ah, wanted to ask you something else
19:38 chris Its a solved problem
19:38 chris Resolving it in koha seems like a waste of effort
19:38 cait bug 3080 reminded me of the missing reports in acq - the old links from the budget table
19:38 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3080 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, "spent" of budget and funds doesn't work
19:39 chris Yes I want those back
19:39 chris They were very useful
19:39 cait chris: I think a short survey would be good - we are not using it and paul's sql parameters will help writing some more interactive reports
19:39 cait yeah
19:39 chris And on the main acq page too
19:39 cait lots of complaints at training about them missing
19:40 cait yeah, I meant those
19:46 sekjal okay, about time to check out of the hotel, and move on to other wifi pastures...
19:46 chris Cya
19:47 sekjal bye, chris and cait!  hope to see you shortly.... but we'll see what's available
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19:57 * cait is confused
19:58 cait fr-FR has no sql file for system preferences?
19:59 chris Really?
19:59 chris Well they don't need it now
19:59 cait ah, it's been renamed
19:59 chris Not with the new sysprefs editor
19:59 cait we donÄt need it for translations, but you need it for install
19:59 chris Everything should use the same sql for install
20:00 cait I agree
20:00 cait that would fix the mess we are in now
20:00 chris Only the frameworks need to be different
20:00 cait although it will cost us some small things
20:00 cait like the possibility to translate the defualt values for salutations and such
20:01 chris Right but I think that's better than inconsistent prefs
20:01 cait I agree
20:01 cait so the solution is to make the web installer always use the en file
20:02 chris For sysprefs at least
20:02 cait yes
20:02 cait perhaps for all sql files that are not in the folder and mandatory
20:03 cait but fr-FR has renamed files - that makes it a bit harder
20:04 chris Yeah not sure why they did that
20:15 cait ru-RU and Ukrainian too
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20:15 cait wb sekjal :)
20:15 sekjal thanks
20:15 sekjal alright, so I'm in Reno, NV right now, in a casino, waiting for my wife's flight to arrive
20:16 sekjal no coffee shop to speak of, but one of the pubs has wifi
20:16 sekjal I assume that means it's socially acceptable to be on my laptop here
20:20 cait I would think so ;)
20:21 sekjal it means I'm going to staying for a while... I'd think they'd encourage that
20:26 cait sekjal: sent patches and updated bug 1997
20:26 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1997 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW, sys pref to Edit no results found page
20:26 sekjal thanks, cait!
20:26 cait you are welcome :)
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20:28 sekjal howdy, druthb!
20:28 cait second opinion about bug 3009
20:28 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3009 normal, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW, Change items.content field so it prints due date by default
20:28 cait I think she is right - changing to due date ok?
20:30 druthb hi, sekjal and cait. :)
20:31 cait hi druthb :)
20:31 druthb ibot: sekjal?
20:31 ibot bugger all, i dunno, druthb
20:31 cait druthb?
20:31 ibot druthb is fond of cookies.
20:31 druthb sekjal is a wonderful geek.
20:31 druthb sekjal?
20:31 ibot sekjal is a wonderful geek.
20:31 sekjal awwww
20:31 cait chris?
20:31 ibot chris is, like, awesome
20:32 cait ibot botsnack chocolate
20:32 ibot thanks cait :)
20:32 * cait suddenly thinks about big bang theory
20:32 druthb ibot:  druthb?
20:32 ibot somebody said druthb was way too chirpy for jwagner.
20:32 * druthb chuckles.
20:32 druthb ibot:  botsnack cookie
20:32 ibot :)
20:33 cait we are spoiling him
20:33 cait ibot: ibot?
20:33 ibot i am still small - he needs to learn more :)
20:33 druthb no, ibot is really clever.
20:33 druthb ibot?
20:33 ibot druthb?
20:33 druthb lol
20:33 druthb ibot:  ibot?
20:33 ibot rumour has it i am still small - he needs to learn more :)
20:33 druthb ibot:  forget ibot
20:33 ibot druthb: I forgot ibot
20:34 cait you will send him into an identity crisis
20:34 druthb ibot:  ibot is a clever being
20:34 ibot OK, druthb.
20:34 druthb ibot: chris?
20:34 ibot chris is awesome
20:34 druthb wizzyrea?
20:34 ibot wizzyrea is, like, a mom
20:34 druthb wizzyrea?
20:34 ibot rumour has it wizzyrea is a mom
20:34 druthb hm.
20:34 cait wizzyrea?
20:34 ibot wizzyrea is prone to laughing
20:34 druthb gmcharlt?
20:34 cait chris_n?
20:34 ibot chris_n is wright :-[
20:34 cait jcamins?
20:34 ibot jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant.
20:35 druthb cait?
20:35 ibot i heard cait was really sweet.
20:35 cait hehe
20:35 druthb kf?
20:35 ibot well, kf is an excellent cook: she makes tasty königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln.
20:35 * druthb giggles
20:37 cait *sighs*
20:37 * cait threatens to stop the German lessons
20:37 druthb Leo will teach me.
20:37 cait pah
20:37 cait ok, then go and talk to Leo ... ;)
20:38 druthb awww...
20:39 cait due date, duedate or date due?
20:41 druthb Depends on where you are.
20:43 cait hmpf
20:43 cait I checked my borrower account and decided for date due
20:43 cait hm, no due date...
20:44 cait hmpf.
20:44 sekjal date_due for issues table
20:46 * druthb is merrily packaging the one christmas present she has purchased already..
20:51 * cait ignores druthb
20:51 cait sekjal: the problem was updating the pod :)
20:51 sekjal ah
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20:57 * sekjal is not a fan of VPNs
21:16 cait sekjal: do you know if bug 3068 is still a problem?
21:16 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3068 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW,  IP address matching overly generous
21:17 sekjal I wrote a patch for it a long time ago, but it was not accepted
21:17 sekjal it was my first, actually
21:17 sekjal there are two issues, really
21:17 sekjal one is sloppy regex
21:17 sekjal the other is the inability to have more than one IP range for a library
21:17 sekjal first is trivial to fix.  second is a db update
21:18 cait hm, want to update the bug? ;)
21:19 sekjal I'll take care of it
21:25 cait thx :)
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21:28 sekjal sorry I keep dropping out
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21:33 cait I said: thx :)
21:38 cait hi Nate
21:38 Nate Hi cait!
21:39 sekjal hey, Nate
21:39 Nate hiya sekjal!
21:41 sekjal gots to love #koha on the weekend
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22:03 cait weekends are very silent
22:54 brendan_l they sure are :)
22:54 brendan_l boo
23:00 * druthb jumps
23:00 * cait hides
23:01 * druthb runs and hides with cait
23:02 * sekjal counts to 50
23:06 cait lol
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23:12 cait hm after midnight
23:17 * druthb wonders when cait is gonna pass out.
23:17 cait I am still here
23:18 sekjal lost my DNS resolution for now, but I still got IRC!
23:19 druthb yay!
23:19 sekjal sort of limits my ability browse the interwebs, though.... I seldom remember IPs
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23:30 cait good night all :)
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