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Message |
00:38 |
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* Brooke |
still wants to trade her slightly used Sunday in the States for Monday in NZ. |
01:21 |
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01:28 |
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chris |
wb wizzyrea_ |
01:28 |
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wizzyrea_ |
heya |
01:29 |
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jcamins |
Can someone who is not using one of my servers check whether the Host-item: prefix is configured by default in Koha? |
01:29 |
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jcamins |
I'm questioning my sanity, and it's only 8:30pm on Sunday. |
01:30 |
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jcamins |
Not a good sign. |
01:30 |
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chris |
what is the host item prefix? |
01:30 |
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jcamins |
773$t. |
01:30 |
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jcamins |
Wait, no, sorry. |
01:30 |
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jcamins |
Host-item: |
01:30 |
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jcamins |
It searches 773$t. |
01:30 |
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chris |
ive never heard of it |
01:30 |
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chris |
i doubt its done by default |
01:30 |
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jcamins |
Probably because you work with sensible data. :) |
01:31 |
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chris |
:) |
01:32 |
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wizzyrea_ |
"Fauxha" |
01:32 |
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wizzyrea_ |
now THAT is funny. |
01:32 |
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chris |
? |
01:32 |
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wizzyrea_ |
in reference to LEK |
01:33 |
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jcamins |
Fauxha? |
01:33 |
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jcamins |
Where is that? |
01:33 |
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ibot |
well, that is a risk you have to take... ;-) |
01:33 |
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jcamins |
What? |
01:33 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
01:33 |
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jcamins |
I see. |
01:33 |
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wizzyrea_ |
yea, it's someone's funny name for LEK |
01:33 |
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chris |
:) |
01:34 |
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chris |
where did you see it? |
01:34 |
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jcamins |
My confusion was about ibot's response. |
01:34 |
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wizzyrea_ |
ohhhh |
01:34 |
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* jcamins |
thinks he'd better just be quiet. |
01:34 |
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wizzyrea_ |
nah, you need a good snuggle |
01:35 |
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jcamins |
I need another weekend. |
01:35 |
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jcamins |
Preferably a more productive one. |
01:36 |
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wizzyrea_ |
me too, but a more relaxing one |
01:36 |
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wizzyrea_ |
instead of productive |
01:47 |
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Brooke |
c'mon now, yer lads can't well lose to the Stinkvens, Chris. |
02:31 |
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02:33 |
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Brooke |
time to turn in for nowish. |
02:33 |
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Brooke |
night #koha. |
02:33 |
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03:12 |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
03:12 |
|
munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0�C (4:00 PM NZDT on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
03:17 |
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03:18 |
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jcamins |
Any Mac users who can explain why my Documents folder just entirely vanished? |
03:18 |
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kmkale |
Good Morning #koha |
03:18 |
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jcamins |
I mean, the folder is still there, but it's no longer in all the menus. |
03:18 |
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jcamins |
Found the answer. |
03:18 |
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jcamins |
That's idiotic. |
03:19 |
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robin |
That's Mac. |
03:19 |
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jcamins |
robin: I love my Mac, mostly. |
03:19 |
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jcamins |
But seriously, click the wrong button and all the shortcuts disappear? |
03:19 |
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* robin |
is anti-mac, in case you didn't notice ;) |
03:19 |
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* jcamins |
is pro-problem-free setup |
03:20 |
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* chris |
is pro free software |
03:20 |
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chris |
so im in the anti-mac camp with robin im afraid |
03:20 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I know. |
03:21 |
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jcamins |
I think I'll be needing more Cool-aid before I care, though. |
03:21 |
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jcamins |
;) |
03:21 |
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robin |
heh |
03:21 |
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jcamins |
I mean, about the fact that the Mac is closed. |
03:21 |
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chris |
ah youve drunk the cool aid |
03:21 |
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chris |
you need anti cool aid :-) |
03:22 |
|
* wizzyrea_ |
ditched her iPhone, but can't yet bring herslef to ditch her macbook. |
03:23 |
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wizzyrea_ |
maybe the next time I'm up for a new lappy |
03:23 |
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chris |
it took darling a couple of years |
03:23 |
|
darling |
i ran ubuntu on it the last coupla |
03:23 |
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chris |
true |
03:23 |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh hey darling |
03:23 |
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darling |
mostly even worked |
03:23 |
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wizzyrea_ |
lol |
03:23 |
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darling |
hey wizzyrea ! |
03:24 |
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darling |
er wizzyrea_ |
03:24 |
|
darling |
you wizzy's all look alike to me |
03:24 |
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wizzyrea_ |
hehehe |
03:26 |
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wizzyrea_ |
I'm going to have to get a bigger drive in this lappy if I'm going to run ubuntu on it. |
03:26 |
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robin |
ibot: osi model |
03:26 |
|
ibot |
robin: huh? |
03:26 |
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robin |
ibot: osi model is shock, denial, guilt, anger, bargaining, hope, acceptance |
03:26 |
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ibot |
OK, robin. |
03:27 |
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chris |
heh |
03:27 |
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jcamins |
chris: if it makes you feel any better, I'm using only FLOSS. |
03:28 |
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jcamins |
(other than Mac OSX, obviously) |
03:28 |
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chris |
:) |
03:28 |
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03:28 |
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chris |
yeah its too late, youve already paid them :-) |
03:30 |
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robin |
ibot: seven-layer burrito is physical, data link, network, transport, session, presentation, application |
03:30 |
|
ibot |
OK, robin. |
03:30 |
|
robin |
ibot: seven stages of grief are lettuce, tomatoes, rice, beans, sour cream, cheese, guacamole |
03:30 |
|
ibot |
OK, robin. |
03:31 |
|
* robin |
enjoys infobots |
03:33 |
|
robin |
ibot: damn you |
03:33 |
|
ibot |
robin: sorry... |
03:33 |
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03:33 |
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robin |
ibot: damn you is <reply>\You fool! You've doomed us all! |
03:33 |
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ibot |
OK, robin. |
03:33 |
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robin |
ibot: literal damn you |
03:33 |
|
ibot |
robin: sorry... |
03:33 |
|
robin |
ibot: damn you |
03:33 |
|
ibot |
robin: huh? |
03:33 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
ibot: damn you |
03:33 |
|
ibot |
wizzyrea_: sorry... |
03:33 |
|
robin |
hrm |
03:33 |
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wizzyrea_ |
aw |
03:33 |
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robin |
ibot: damn you is <reply>You fool! You've doomed us all! |
03:33 |
|
ibot |
i already had it that way, robin. |
03:33 |
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robin |
O_o |
03:33 |
|
jcamins |
ibot: damn you <reply>You fool! You've doomed us all! |
03:33 |
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ibot |
jcamins: i'm not following you... |
03:33 |
|
jcamins |
damn you? |
03:33 |
|
ibot |
You fool! You've doomed us all! |
03:34 |
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wizzyrea_ |
LOL |
03:34 |
|
robin |
how odd |
03:34 |
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jcamins |
Eventually we work it out. |
03:34 |
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robin |
ibot doesn't quite use the rules I'm familiar with it seems' |
03:34 |
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ibot |
robin: sorry... |
03:34 |
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robin |
ibot: so you should be |
03:34 |
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ibot |
robin: what? |
03:34 |
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03:34 |
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robin |
ibot: so you should be is <reply>may I have a cookie now please? |
03:34 |
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ibot |
i don't know, robin |
03:34 |
|
robin |
ibot: so you should be is <reply>may I have a cookie now please |
03:34 |
|
ibot |
robin: i haven't a clue |
03:34 |
|
robin |
ibot: so \you should be is <reply>may I have a cookie now please? |
03:34 |
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ibot |
robin: bugger all, i dunno |
03:34 |
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robin |
ibot: so \you should be is <reply>may I have a cookie now please |
03:34 |
|
ibot |
robin: no idea |
03:35 |
|
robin |
ibot: so \you should be is <reply>may \I have a cookie now please |
03:35 |
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ibot |
robin: i haven't a clue |
03:35 |
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robin |
hrm |
03:35 |
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jcamins |
ibot: so you should be <reply>may I have a cookie now please? |
03:35 |
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ibot |
i don't know, jcamins |
03:35 |
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jcamins |
so you should be? |
03:35 |
|
jcamins |
Hm. |
03:35 |
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robin |
Not sure what all the escape words are. |
03:36 |
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wizzyrea_ |
whisper |
03:36 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
whisper? |
03:36 |
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ibot |
whisper is <repy> Speak up, we can't hear you! |
03:36 |
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robin |
see, it should have said something then, as I understand it. |
03:36 |
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wizzyrea_ |
whisper |
03:36 |
|
robin |
maybe it requires the question mark |
03:36 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
whisper? |
03:36 |
|
ibot |
Speak up, we can't hear you! |
03:37 |
|
robin |
the info bot I know (which is somewhat hacked up) doesn't need it. |
03:37 |
|
jcamins |
postfix documentation |
03:37 |
|
jcamins |
postfix documentation? |
03:37 |
|
jcamins |
postfix instructions? |
03:37 |
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wizzyrea_ |
postfix? |
03:37 |
|
ibot |
postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
03:38 |
|
jcamins |
wizzyrea_: thanks. |
03:38 |
|
jcamins |
postfix |
03:38 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, definitely requires the question mark. |
03:38 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
ubuntu? |
03:38 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
oh don't tell me we don't have an entry for ubuntu... |
03:38 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
debian/ |
03:38 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
? |
03:38 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
debian? |
03:38 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
oi vey |
03:40 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
i'm running around WoW picking up the new flight points. Because there's nothing to *do* |
03:40 |
|
chris |
this button? |
03:40 |
|
ibot |
dont push it, it's the history eraser button you fool! |
03:40 |
|
* wizzyrea_ |
pushes the button |
03:40 |
|
jcamins |
wizzyrea_: what? |
03:41 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
there's nothing to *do* in World of Warcraft right now |
03:41 |
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wizzyrea_ |
it's terribly boring |
03:41 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
2 days till the expansion |
03:42 |
|
jcamins |
Where would I find a CC-licensed picture of a binder's error? |
03:42 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
flickr? |
03:43 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, that's where I'm looking now. |
03:43 |
|
jcamins |
Kind of hard to search for, though. |
03:43 |
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wizzyrea_ |
there's a search specifically for CC licensing, unless you mean the *content* is hard to search for, not the license |
03:44 |
|
jcamins |
The content's hard to search for. |
03:44 |
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wizzyrea_ |
ah yea |
03:44 |
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jcamins |
I *love* the CC search. |
03:44 |
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wizzyrea_ |
I bet that is not something that people would generally think of taking CC pics of |
03:44 |
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robin |
I dunno. I just have it set to CC all my photos by default. Others probably do the same. |
03:44 |
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chris |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjN-H62U64 |
03:47 |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh, the spud is up |
03:47 |
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wizzyrea_ |
lol what now. |
03:52 |
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robin |
http://acidcycles.wordpress.co[…]-optimizing-perl/ |
04:05 |
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wizzyrea_ |
well, good night, folks: kiddo wants to snuggle :) |
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04:23 |
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kmkale |
good morning |
04:30 |
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jcamins |
Morning? |
04:30 |
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jcamins |
Ah! |
04:30 |
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jcamins |
That means it's really late here! |
04:30 |
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robin |
jcamins: naw, it's only 17:30 |
04:31 |
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jcamins |
Funny, it feels like 23:32 to me. |
04:31 |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
04:31 |
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jcamins is now known as jcamins_a |
04:33 |
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braedon|h |
@wunder auckland |
04:33 |
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munin |
braedon|h: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 21.0�C (5:00 PM NZDT on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
05:41 |
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brendan_l |
morning cait |
05:41 |
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cait |
hi brendan |
05:41 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
05:41 |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.3�C (6:40 AM CET on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001.2 hPa (Steady). |
05:42 |
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robin |
@wunder wellington, nz |
05:42 |
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munin |
robin: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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* cait |
waves to robin |
05:49 |
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robin |
hi there |
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06:08 |
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* cait |
forgot her mysql password - again |
06:13 |
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cait |
hm found it |
06:13 |
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robin |
I always stick them in a text file somewhere. |
06:33 |
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cait |
hehe |
06:34 |
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cait |
@later tell owen patch pushed, rebased, small correction added - are we ready for qa? (bug 5422) |
06:34 |
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munin |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
06:34 |
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cait |
robin: I would probably loose the text file or accidently publish it on the internet |
06:34 |
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robin |
heh |
06:38 |
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robin |
man, I wrote my csv2marc script to handle comma and tab separated files, I mean, what else are you going to get sent? Today I get a '~'-separated file. |
06:38 |
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cait |
one of my coworkers uses %%% |
06:38 |
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robin |
erk, seriously? My script will never handle that - it requires it to be a single character. |
06:38 |
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kmkale |
I use | |
06:38 |
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cait |
trying to choose something that will not show up in the data (and of course it did) |
06:38 |
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robin |
I like tabs. |
06:39 |
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cait |
we are shocking robin :) |
06:39 |
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kmkale |
:) |
06:39 |
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robin |
If things are properly quoted and escaped, it won't be a problem. Of course, something things (/me glares at liberty) can't export things correctly quoted and escaped. |
06:40 |
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cait |
kmkale: sorry, had no time to test your patch :( but it's still on my to do list |
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* cait |
hands robin a cookie |
06:40 |
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robin |
:D |
06:41 |
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kmkale |
Cool cait. I did my first ever sign off with fredericd's guidance :) |
06:42 |
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cait |
cool :) |
06:42 |
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kmkale |
cait: what about your patch needing sign off I tried on sat? is it reworked yet? |
06:42 |
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cait |
I rebased it 5 minutes ago :) |
06:43 |
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kmkale |
cool |
06:43 |
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kmkale |
send it. It will give me some practice :) |
06:43 |
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cait |
if you give me your email I will send it to you directly? |
06:43 |
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kmkale |
kmkalegmail.com |
06:43 |
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cait |
ok :) |
06:45 |
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cait |
ok, sent :) |
06:45 |
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cait |
I will add it to the bug too |
06:46 |
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kmkale |
yup. Will try this afternoon and reply. |
06:47 |
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cait |
thx! |
06:55 |
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chris |
cait: chris has done some more work, hasnt fixed the umlauts or the sysprefs but he thinks he has fixed the other things like the about page, if you get a chance to look |
06:55 |
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cait |
morning chris |
06:56 |
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cait |
ok, will try to take a look at it later :) |
06:56 |
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kmkale |
hi chris :) |
06:56 |
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cait |
the umlauts are a bigger problem? |
06:57 |
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chris |
no, we just havent looked at that one yet |
06:57 |
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cait |
ok |
06:57 |
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cait |
hm, I did it wrong - have checked out my local branch for 3.2.x and wanted to update it, but now I have merge conflicts... |
07:03 |
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cait |
ok, figured it out |
07:10 |
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kmkale |
I usually throw expletives at git till it figures it out ;) |
07:12 |
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cait |
hehe |
07:12 |
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cait |
I ignored it and started a new branch |
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cait |
chris: working on bug 5423 again - is it ok to not send a separate patch for 3.2.x if the only thing that needs change is the version numbers? |
07:14 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5423 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Deleted Patrons are no longer saved in table deletedborrowers |
07:18 |
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cait |
time to get some breakfast |
07:19 |
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chris |
no just note, "Should apply to 3.2 as well" |
07:20 |
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chris |
to make it easy for chris_n |
07:23 |
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cait |
o |
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cait |
k |
07:28 |
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cait |
kmkale: I sent you a slightly reformatted patch, adding the note for chris_n and changing version numbers |
07:28 |
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kmkale |
ok cait |
07:36 |
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cait |
thx again :) |
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cait |
ok, time to leave - back in a few minutes |
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kf |
snow + heavy rain = too much water :( |
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kf |
guten morgen ivanc |
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ivanc |
guten morgen kf |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
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chris |
What's this button? |
08:51 |
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ibot |
dont push it, it's the history eraser button you fool! |
08:52 |
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kf |
poor ibot |
08:52 |
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kf |
ibot botsnack cookie |
08:52 |
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ibot |
thanks kf :) |
08:52 |
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kf |
chris? |
08:52 |
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ibot |
it has been said that chris is awesome |
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fredericd: around? |
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kf |
hi hdl |
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magnus |
kia ora, #koha |
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robin |
ka kite, magnus |
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kf |
ata marie magnus |
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magnus |
robin: translation? |
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magnus |
hiya kf |
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robin |
goodbye :) I'm just about to leave. |
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robin |
bye kf, and others too :) |
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kf |
bye robin :) |
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magnus |
ah, bye robin |
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kf |
oh my |
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kf |
every time I start to work on a bug I find other things that need to be fixed |
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kf |
hmpf. |
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magnus |
well, it's good that they are found! |
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kf |
hmpf |
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kf |
fredericd: I talked to chris_n - he was positive about inlcuding updated po files in the 3.2.x versions |
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kf: So you see that new strings are missing on Pootle. |
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kf |
I think what needs to be done is update the po files |
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kf |
when I tested the bug I got them into the po files with a normal perl translate update de-DE |
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fredericd |
'new strings' mean strings which entered Koha code recently. But how recently? |
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kf |
that's how I confirmed that the patch worked correctly |
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kf |
after 3.2 |
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fredericd |
kf: yes |
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kf |
but I am not sure when the po files were last updated, perhaps we were missing some things for 3.2 too |
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fredericd |
chris: When .po files you send me were updated for the last time? |
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kf |
fredericd: do you see a problem with updating them to the current 3.2.1? |
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kf |
I think zeno posted a nice timeline we could use |
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fredericd |
kf: We have to define a workflow and be sure it's ok with 3.2 RM |
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kf |
I think at the moment there is no project for 3.4 |
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kf |
and chris_n was ok with what zeno posted |
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kf |
not saying we shouldn't talk to him too |
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kf |
http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ovember/date.html |
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kf |
there are the mails about a timetable for translators |
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fredericd |
kf: send a email to translatore list. Thanks for your help. |
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kf |
fredericd: ? |
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fredericd: around? |
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kf |
fredericd: ah, now I see it. sorry. have to deal with some problems here right now (not translation related) |
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fredericd |
kmkale: yes |
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slef |
14:58:43 <kf> slef is not listening it seems... so I will keep practice for now |
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slef |
slef is always listening. I just wasn't very well :-) |
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braedon|h |
SLEF HEARS ALL |
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slef |
Now if only I knew all, too, that might be useful. |
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braedon|h |
well, its a start |
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braedon|h |
s/its/it's/ |
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* kf |
hides |
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braedon|h |
none can hide from the great listening power of slef! |
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slef |
oh if only |
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* kf |
waves to slef from her hiding place |
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slef |
and another ex-LibLime leaves PTFS... John Rose to III says librarytechnology.org |
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kf |
slef: have you seen the nekls mail on the mailing list? |
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slef |
kf: no. I might not even open that mailbox until after lunch :-( Got Message-Id: or URL if you'd like me to look? |
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kf |
I wil copy you the url - just thought it might be interesting |
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http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ember/026526.html |
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* kf |
hands slef a yummy cookie without any chocolate |
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kf |
to make this monday a bit easier |
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slef |
interesting, but bah, .doc |
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kf |
not my fault ;) |
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slef |
Can we make wizzyrea his boss? |
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kf |
hi nengard |
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nengard |
morning :) |
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kf |
can someone check if his borrowers table is missing the privacy column? I think it shoudl always be there and missing in deletedborrowers - but we had a strange problem right now wile testing it |
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kf |
his or her borrowers table :) |
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slef |
I'll look on a fairly recent site. |
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nengard |
kf, privacy was removed for 3.2 release |
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kf |
where? |
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nengard |
cause it wasn't fully developed |
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kf |
the sys pref yes |
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nengard |
the sys pref was removed too |
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kf |
but I don't think the colunn was removed |
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nengard |
oh |
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nengard |
okay |
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kf |
nengard: sorry, this day is killing me |
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kf |
monday-- |
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nengard |
no problem at all |
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slef |
kf: I don't see it in borrowers... oh, you want a 3.2 copy? |
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kf |
I looked at kohastructure.sql - privacy is in borrowers but not in deletedborrowers |
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slef |
it'll take me longer to find it :-/ |
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kf |
and this is the problem I tried to fix, because it breaks borrower deletion |
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slef |
kf: does updatedatabase* mention it at all? |
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kf |
slef: yes, http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82450b831;hb=HEAD |
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kf |
2791 $DBversion = "3.01.00.072"; |
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kf |
but still only borrowers |
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kf |
kmkale tried to sign-off on my bug - but in his database privacy was missing from borrowers |
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kf |
which really confused me |
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kf |
hm, looks like the database had some issues |
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jwagner |
kf, online? |
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kf |
here |
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kf |
hi jwagner |
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jwagner |
I just got a patches list email for your kits patch, but the mail's datestamp was Wed 9/15/2010 7:22 PM -- is your computer's date off? |
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jwagner |
(and good morning) |
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kf |
yes it is |
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kf |
virtual box... *sighs* |
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kf |
ALWAYS forget resetting it |
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jwagner |
OK, just wondered if I was hallucinating or time-traveling this morning :-) |
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kf |
no, it's me having a real bad monday |
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sends sympathy and cookies |
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slef? |
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ibot |
slef is an avid cyclist |
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kf |
hi chris_n |
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kf |
chris_n? |
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ibot |
chris_n is, like, wright :-[ |
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thought slef is always listening |
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chris_n |
heya kf |
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kf |
chris_n: I am wondering what has to be done to add a new sys pref? |
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chris_n |
kf: it has to be added to the yaml files and to the database (ie. mandatory sysprefs file and updatedatabase.pl) |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
so you need to add it to all languages, right? |
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chris_n |
correct |
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owen |
Hi #koha |
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chris_n |
its a bit of a chore at the moment imho |
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chris_n |
g'morning owen |
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kf |
hi owen |
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kf |
yeah - and I can imagine people will miss one of the many places |
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chris_n |
it would be cool to have a script one could run on the yaml files and check/update/add the sysprefs to the db |
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kf |
hm. de-DE 276 lines, en 277 |
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kf |
we don't really need the translated sys pref file any longer - can it always use en? |
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kf |
chris_n: there are already 2 patches missing as it seems |
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kf |
:( |
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chris_n |
? |
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kf |
de-DE is missing homeorholdingbranchreturn |
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chris_n |
kf: there are some fields which are not needed any longer due to the yaml |
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chris_n |
ahh |
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kf |
when you set up your database using sample sys prefs in German, it will miss a sys pref - I have not checked the other files |
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kf |
that's not good :( |
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chris_n |
yup, it is a process fraught with potential problems |
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chris_n |
it requires a good understanding of how the (rather convoluted) system preference system works |
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kf |
pl-PL has only 262 lines |
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kf |
chris_n: this problem appears in a lot of places - I fixed a lot of things for 3.2 - making the web installers work again for some languages |
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kf |
but there are still some problems remaining |
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kf |
another problem is the permissions table |
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kf |
the description there is really used by koha, so it makes sense to translate it |
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kf |
but people forget to add to all language files |
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kf |
just telling you, so you can keep an eye on it ;) |
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chris_n |
right |
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chris_n |
those things should be caught by good QA |
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kf |
yeah, but we are only human |
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kf |
I will open a bug |
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chris_n |
also a right-up on the wiki would probably help |
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kf |
which page are you thinking? |
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fredericd |
kf: for permissions I wrote a test: xt/permissions.t |
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kf |
fredericd++ |
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kf |
can something similar be done to sys prefs? |
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kf |
or perhaps we should always use en, not that the description is translatable via the yaml files |
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kf |
could this be done? |
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fredericd |
this is already there for DB syspref: xt/syspref.t |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
why does it not kick in for Homeorholdingbranchreturn? |
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kf |
because hudson is installed with en only? |
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fredericd |
but my opinion is that we should focus on templates syspref and find a way to generate DB syspref from them. |
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fredericd |
If I run prove -v xt/syspref.t I capture missing Homeorholdingbranchreturn for DE |
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fredericd |
Maybe Hudson doesn't run xt tests but just 't' |
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fredericd |
(a supposition) |
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kf |
fredericd: I think this is possible |
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kf |
I will make a note to ask chris later |
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kf |
still filing a bug - so we have a place to document things |
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kf |
hm even 2 missing |
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* kf |
wonders about the other |
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kf |
but it does not find changed sys prefs |
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kf |
like the changed default value for tagsmoderation |
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fredericd |
kf: The test just do a hash of syspref names and compares to 'en' hash each other language. It could be possible to compare also default value... |
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fredericd |
When you add to that the templating syspref, you can imagine the complexity... |
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kf |
you mean the .pref files? |
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kf |
yeah, I know it's complicated - I only think we need to be mroe careful |
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kf |
monday-- |
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kf |
or find a better way doing it |
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kf |
using the translation tools for translation instead of sql files for example |
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nengard |
hey all - didn't someone write a snippet of code to hide the login box from the opac? |
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nengard |
was that on owen's blog maybe ... |
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kf |
people may want to have their own sample borrowers, but system parameters and permissions are only copied for translation |
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owen |
nengard: You can do it in the CSS |
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kf |
nengard: there is a sys pref too I think |
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kf |
borrowerlogin? |
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nengard |
kf i want them to be able to login - i just don't want that box to show |
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nengard |
owen, what am i looking for in the css? |
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nengard |
and was it on your blog? |
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owen |
#login |
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kf |
opacuserlogin |
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kf |
ah ok :) |
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owen |
I don't think I wrote about that specifically |
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jwagner |
This hides the login box on the main page: $('#login').hide(); |
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kf |
#login {display:none;} |
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nengard |
you did : #login { display: none; } http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 |
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kf |
using css is a bit better than jquery - will work even if people have javascript off |
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owen |
kf++ |
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kf |
it's easy if someone tells you the id ;) owen++ |
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fredericd |
Am I alone? For me Holds doesn't work on 3.2... |
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nengard |
fredericd how so? |
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fredericd |
C4::Reserves::CanBookBeReserved function build insane MySQL query to issuingrules table |
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fredericd |
And so, there isn't ever any result... |
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fredericd |
Example of wrong SQL WHERE clause: WHERE categorycode IN ('SI', '*') AND branchcode = '*' AND itemtype = '*' |
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owen |
kf, I'm looking at Bug 5467 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5467 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, LDR pos 6 o = Kit should not show as visual material |
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owen |
Is there a reason why $leader6='o' and $leader6='p' are given the same icon? |
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owen |
Could we give $leader6='p' its own icon? |
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kf |
owen: we could of course |
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kf |
I thought mixed materials and kit are similar enough to share one icon |
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kf |
and in the process discovered that the icon for mixed materials was never there |
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* owen |
is looking up the LOC definition of kit |
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kf |
today is really one of these days |
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kf |
fredericd: try adding a rule for default default default... |
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* owen |
finds that what his library has always classified as a kit sounds more like "mixed materials" |
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kf |
hehe |
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magnus |
oh no! |
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owen |
We circulate these picture book + audio cassette sets, and we've always called them "kits" |
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schuster |
There was talk at KohaCon some people during Hackfest were going to do some work on the MARC frameworks? Did that move forward? |
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schuster |
owen - sorry... That's an soundcassette... |
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schuster |
:) |
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schuster |
But you can call them whatever you want! |
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owen |
"o (Kit) - entity is issued as a single unit; no type of material predominates" |
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owen |
But later "intended primarily for instructional purposes" |
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owen |
Some of them have 000 6 i "Nonmusical sound recording" |
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schuster |
We have lots of Kits in education but a lot of them are going away due to the electronic and digital age thank goodness! |
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schuster |
Depends on who cataloged the items and how "complete" and persnicketty they are about MARC... |
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* owen |
would be more interested in the solution if it didn't involve a mass update of MARC records in his catalog |
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nengard |
webinar time - be back when it's done |
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slef |
chris_n: I am. It just takes me a while to reply :) |
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schuster |
owen - is a rule follower I see... :) |
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bye all good night |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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good day jcamins |
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* owen |
thinks that sounds better than a morning meeting |
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still waits for her shoes and socks to dry |
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kf |
owen++ thx for signoff :) |
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kf |
owen: did you get my message? |
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owen |
Yes |
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owen |
I think those changes are ready for another set of eyes |
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kf |
ok, what do we do now? send a pull request to chris? |
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kf |
or put a sign-off on bugzilla? |
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owen |
I think send a pull request to the patches list? |
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kf |
ok, will do that later |
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kf |
robin: awake? |
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kf: a little early for the nzlanders, perhaps? |
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kf |
yeah, think so |
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kf |
was working on bug 5466 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5466 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, Allow currency to be set during order creation |
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kf |
ah no, wrong number :) |
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kf |
bug 5173 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5173 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Allow the discount to be editable |
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kf |
this one |
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ok, time to go home - bye all! |
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What is the syntax for running build_holds_queue.pl from the command line? |
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jwagner |
owen, I don't think it has any particular syntax, other than perl build_holds_queue.pl |
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I was hoping I was just doing it wrong. I'm getting an error: Use of uninitialized value $pickup_branch in exists at build_holds_queue.pl line 267. |
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jwagner |
sounds like a bug, then.... |
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owen: looks like a data issue to me. would have to check how $pickup_branch is populated to be sure, though |
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gregb |
hi all |
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gregb |
anyone on with wisdom re: unAPI links? |
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gregb |
or more generally, with regard to using Koha through an Apache proxy? |
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jcamins |
gregb: I'm not sure what you're asking. |
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jcamins |
I don't know much about unAPI, but I do recall that there was an issue in older versions where the unAPI link was embedded twice, which broke some software that uses unAPI (like Zotero). |
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gregb |
My employer is going live next month on Liblime-hosted Harley and I am trying to set up an Apache proxy for same, but the absolute href links to unAPI are giving me grief. |
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gregb |
My main question is whether these links need to use a fully qualified host name, or whether they might be regarded as bugs. |
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jcamins |
I don't know, and if it's Harley, there probably won't be anyone else here who does. |
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gregb |
the same links are in mainstream Koha if I'm not mistaken |
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owen |
Like this? <link rel="unapi-server" type="application/xml" title="unAPI" href="http://localhost:88/cgi-bin/koha/unapi" /> |
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gregb |
yes those |
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gregb |
I know I can probably work around them with some Rewrite directives on the proxy, but for simplicity I'd rather not if Koha (and/or Harley) could be modified to simply not do that =) |
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owen |
gregb: How are using unapi? |
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gregb |
Honestly, I've no idea how it is used, just that its use of a fully qualified host name is not going to work in the simplest case for proxying. |
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gregb |
What I want to avoid is rewriting the entire HTML throughput rather than just HTTP headers. |
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owen |
FWIW, removing the part of the template that echos the base URL doesn't break Zotero integration |
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gregb |
So, if these were relative links they still "just work"? That is good to hear |
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Augustan |
Hello, anyone awake? |
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jcamins |
I guess he didn't care that much. |
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owen |
sekjal: Re: build_holds_queue.pl, what kind of data problem do you think? |
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nengard |
does the statistics table track cataloging stats too? or just circ? |
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owen |
sekjal: My reserves table has valid data in branchcode |
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wizzyrea_ |
owen: what problem are you having? |
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wizzyrea_ |
(you can give the short version, if that helps) |
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owen |
I'm getting an error when running build_holds_queue.pl: Use of uninitialized value $pickup_branch in exists at build_holds_queue.pl line 267. |
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sekjal |
owen: your reserves.branchcode value should be what you need there |
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sekjal |
so, not sure why it's erring |
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chris |
That's a warning not an error |
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chris |
But the reason why its occuring is as sekjal said |
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sekjal |
owen: do you have any rows in reserves with a null biblionumber? (is that even possible?) |
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wizzyrea_ |
Hm, what do you think, duplicate the 3.2.2 string freeze note from chris_n on the website? |
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chris |
wizzyrea_: one vote from me |
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wizzyrea_ |
well I think that's the kind of stuff we want on there, right? |
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chris |
Yep |
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wizzyrea_ |
alright. I'll add it and we can remove it if there's an uproar (though I doubt there will be) |
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chris |
Its important info |
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chris_n |
tnx wizzyrea |
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chris |
Good for it to be widely seen |
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* chris_n |
would have done that, but today has been one of "them" days |
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wizzyrea_ |
no worries, I got your back. ;) |
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* owen |
just heard the "hold found" audio cue and had no idea where it was coming from |
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chris |
Heh |
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owen |
sekjal: It looks like the warning comes from having a non-consecutive holds priority number (that should sound familiar) |
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owen |
I had a title with two holds: The first was number 1, the second was number 3 |
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owen |
Changing the priority of the second to two resulted in no warnings |
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sekjal |
interesting... so for every priority value from min to max, there is an entry... |
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mumbles to himself for a bit |
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owen |
I'm guessing build_holds_queue.pl checks through each hold from priority value min-to-max? |
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chris |
Looks that way |
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chris |
Which is harmless and we should suppress the warn by fixing the call |
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* owen |
just wanted to test Bug 2808... |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2808 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Hold queue not alphabetizing |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
Is it alphabetised now? |
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owen |
My original patch didn't cover the "holds over" tab so I'm doing more work on it |
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owen |
...maybe because I didn't have any "holds over" at the time, I don't know. |
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chris |
Sounds plausible |
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fredericd |
I need help with reservations |
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fredericd |
I do a reservation on an item which is checked out. |
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fredericd |
I return this item. |
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fredericd |
I fill the hold for this item for a patron |
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fredericd |
A message is added to message_queue for this patron... |
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fredericd |
BUT message_transport_type is print. I would like email. |
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fredericd |
I see in Notice that I have 2 notices: HOLD and HOLD_PRINT. How can I select HOLD rather than HOLD_PRINT?? |
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chris |
I think its a preference |
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chris |
You set per borrower |
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chris |
And they can choose on the opac too |
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chris |
I can't look now, but I think at the bottom of the moremember page ? |
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chris: yes |
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chris |
I think you can change it from print to email there? |
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chris |
If you want to do all borrowers might need to run some sql? |
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fredericd |
chris: yes |
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fredericd |
(I'm on another chan discuting Pootle stuff :-) |
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chris |
My work here is done, and just in time its my stop |
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chris |
Oh the suggestions are stored in the .po I think |
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chris |
So they should have come across, but not sure about that |
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chris |
If not no I don't think we can migrate them |
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* chris |
will brb |
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jwagner |
fredericd, the HOLD_PRINT notice only comes into play if the patron does not have an email address and you're running the print notice script for creating hold print notices |
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jwagner |
See Bug 3482 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3482 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Print overdue and hold notices for patrons without email addresses |
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owen |
Why would a patch apply fine with "git apply" but fail with "Patch format detection failed" when I use "git am" ? |
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fredericd |
jwagner: thanks. I think my patron has an email. I'm running process_messages_queue.pl and the queue has been populated by return screen |
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rhcl |
RE: holds discussion above. I don't have a good context for the previous, but one thing we've noticed is that printing out the holds results in a separate page for each hold. |
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rhcl |
Would be better to keep one header and just list each hold as lines items. |
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rhcl |
line items |
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fredericd |
I don't find where to select for a patron his prefered transport mode for notices, email or print |
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fredericd |
I've seen EnhancedMessagingPreferences syspref. But I don't think it's the solution |
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chris |
owen: if its not an email format then am wont be happy |
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accidentally attempts to do a thing as 'rot' rather than 'root' :-P |
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jwagner |
fredericd, patrons can't select whether to get email or print (unless they just delete their email address). It's not configurable. The print notices for overdues and holds were meant as a fallback, so that usable text could be generated and printed if there wasn't an email address. |
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chris |
not entirely true |
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chris |
you can choose to get issue slips emailed to you |
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chris |
and it is only very recently that the patron has lost the ability to choose |
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jwagner |
chris, by issue slips, do you mean the checkout notice? That & the others (checkin, due) are handled differently. |
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chris |
there was a preferredcontact column, where they could choose |
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chris |
preferredcont |
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chris |
we should bring that back |
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jwagner |
I'm not remembering this at all. Where was it? Am I just having a senior moment? (Don't answer that last one....) |
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chris |
in the borrowers table |
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chris |
by recently i mean either 3.0 or 3.2 |
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chris |
it was definitely there in 2.2.9 |
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owen |
chris's Koha timescale gives him a different range for "recently" than most ;) |
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chris |
:) |
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jwagner |
That would be why I don't remember seeing it, then :-) |
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jwagner |
Yes, if all the notices and other contact stuff could obey a "preferred" flag, that would be great. |
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* owen |
wonders what makes a hold qualify for the "holds over" tab anyway... |
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wizzyrea_ |
a hold that's been on the shelf past it's expiration date |
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owen |
wizzyrea_: Expiration date as defined where? |
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owen |
Oh I see it in the script, ReservesMaxPickUpDelay |
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wizzyrea_ |
right, after the item has sat on a shelf for X days, it expires, and goes to the Hold Over tab |
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* owen |
proposes changing that tab label from "XX Hold(s) over" to "XX Hold(s) expired" |
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sekjal |
The "holds over" aren't actually expired, though, in the sense that they have (and have passed) their expiration date |
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sekjal |
if you run the cancel_expired_holds.pl job, for example, these items remain untouched |
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sekjal |
err, not items, holds |
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owen |
sekjal: I agree it's a little ambiguous. Do you have any suggestions? |
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finds the "over" even more ambiguous |
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sekjal |
I was thinking of adding a flag to cancel_expired_holds that would allow the user to say whether 'holds over' should be cancelled or not |
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or at least give expirationdate = waitingdate + ReservesMaxPickUpDelay |
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owen |
"pickup date passed" ? |
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"stale holds"? |
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sekjal |
"holds waiting too long" ? |
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wizzyrea_ |
Still awaiting pickup |
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sekjal |
"seriously, guys, pick up your holds, already!" ? |
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chris |
heh |
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< Report from future > Koha 10.0 is at 80% of all ILS systems installed < / Report from future > |
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wizzyrea_ |
Give up, they're not coming |
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owen |
Damn, I was about to ask him how the second tab on waitingreserves.pl was labeled in Koha 10.0. |
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wizzyrea_ |
hehehehe |
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wizzyrea_ |
it's called "fds aweever safwefer" |
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wizzyrea_ |
meaning: hold over |
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wizzyrea_ |
^ |
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wizzyrea_ |
^.^ |
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owen |
That's after Koha's official development language shifts to "gibberish?" |
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jcamins |
fds aweever safwefer? |
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wizzyrea_ |
exactly |
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* owen |
will be okay with anything but lolcat |
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wizzyrea_ |
I can has pickup? |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh anything *but* lolcat |
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sekjal |
:) |
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rhcl |
yea, apparently there's a default stylesheet, which I haven't identified yet, but there is the option to specify an alternate stylesheet |
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* owen |
needs to be better about recording in his commits what *hasn't* been done as much as what has |
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hdl |
!meeting list |
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@list |
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hdl: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dict, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather |
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@help MeetBot |
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hdl: Error: There is no command "meetbot". |
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@list meetbot |
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wizzyrea_: addchair, deletemeeting, listmeetings, pingall, recent, and savemeetings |
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hdl |
thanks wizzyrea |
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thought that there was much more commands. |
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@list Todo |
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hdl: add, change, remove, search, setpriority, and todo |
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@list Utilities |
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hdl: apply, echo, ignore, last, shuffle, and success |
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chris_n |
hdl: is the meeting for solr discussion on for tomorrow at 2100UTC? |
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chris |
im on site with clients tomorrow, (and thursday and friday) |
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hdl |
chris_n well, I am planning two : one for tommorrow 21 UTC and One on the 15th December at 11AM |
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hdl |
congrats chris. |
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chris |
so wont be able to make the 21utc one |
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hdl |
I will try and record the meeting with teh meeting Bot... I have to train with the bot |
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* owen |
wonders if the bot could teach him kung fu |
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hdl |
I am sending an email right now. will try and improve the sketchy schedule I have. |
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hdl |
main aim is to present our work, what we did and what we are to do, and try and gather good will and have feed back. |
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yup, even tho i wont be there, i think everyone knows my position already so thats fine |
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(ill be in the middle of training and a go live) |
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Owen Leonard: Incremental fix for Bug 3285 - Location on Add Subscription should be pull down |
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jcamins |
Hm. I'll be missing the solr meeting tomorrow- I'll be presenting on cataloging private book collections. |
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jcamins |
Good nirhg, #koha |
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jcamins_a |
Good night, even. |
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chris |
cya jcamins_a |
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Brooke |
night j |
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cait |
hi all :) |
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chris |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi chris :) |
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cait |
chris: I will send you a pull request for owen's and my work on a state in borrowers - ok? |
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chris |
yup, is it ready for being pushed up for awaiting_qa? |
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cait |
we think so :) |
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chris |
cool |
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cait |
doesn't mean we have not missed something - but more eyes are good |
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chris |
yup |
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Brooke |
hi Cait. |
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cait |
hi Brooke :) |
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cait |
chris: hm, pull request - just send you a mail with the link? |
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cait |
I have done it once but not sure hwat I put in the mail |
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chris |
yup |
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Brooke |
@quote 102 |
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hdl |
chris : I hope your go live will be all right. |
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Brooke |
same |
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chris |
thanks hdl |
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cait |
oh go live? |
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chris |
on friday |
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chris |
training tomorrow and thursday |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
chris: sending request again... web mail created a html mail :( |
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chris |
eewww |
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chris |
cool thanks |
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cait |
don't ask about the 2nd mail... the 3rd is the right one |
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chris |
heh |
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robin |
cait: 5am? you must be mad :) |
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cait |
hm? |
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robin |
you were asking if I was awake at 5am |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
yeah... not everybody is as crazy as me |
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brendan |
the rest of us where robin ;) |
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cait |
I updated your bug ;) |
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robin |
brendan: it's your own fault for being foreigners in strange time zones :) |
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robin |
cait: yeah, saw that. Looks good. |
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Brooke |
pfft, 5 am is sleepin' in for me, laddy |
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Brooke |
as I said to another kiwi, someone has to sing in the dawn in that lazy country of yours ;) |
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cait |
what about the missing update script? (not sure how to do that and if you already have it somewhere) |
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robin |
that what we have birds for :) |
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robin |
I didn't see that bit...what do you mean? |
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Brooke |
faw, even yer birds are lazy ;P |
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cait |
robin: for older orders the discount value is not populated |
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robin |
that was by design, I think. |
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robin |
We didn't want to change what people already had set up. |
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cait |
hm no |
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cait |
or... hm. |
22:23 |
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cait |
but at the moment the field is empty - so there is no value at all when you open the order |
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cait |
that doesn't seem right to me |
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cait |
or? |
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cait |
it's to late to think |
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robin |
It's been a while, I can't remember. But, didn't it add a message saying that if it's empty it'll use the default? |
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robin |
oh |
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robin |
rather than zero |
22:24 |
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robin |
I forget |
22:24 |
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robin |
it's too early to think. |
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cait |
no, that was about tax |
22:24 |
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cait |
different bug |
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robin |
ahh |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
ok, let's restart |
22:24 |
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cait |
I am talking about 5173 |
22:24 |
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cait |
but 5173 |
22:24 |
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cait |
grrr |
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cait |
bug 5173 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5173 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Allow the discount to be editable |
22:24 |
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cait |
if you open an old order now - the field is empty |
22:25 |
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cait |
can do more testing at work tomorrow - but it didn't look right to me or it could be better |
22:26 |
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robin |
looking at it, trying to remember the details... |
22:27 |
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cait |
chris: git question: what is the easiest way to update my branch for the new templates? |
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chris |
which branch? |
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cait |
template-test |
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cait |
you wanted me to look at it :) |
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chris |
git fetch catalyst |
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chris |
git rebase catalyst/template-test |
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cait |
ah with rebase |
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* chris_n |
feels a bit "pushy" :-) |
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chris |
id do that, to keep any local changes at the top |
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cait |
I made the error to try a git pull earlier... which ended up in a lot of merge conflicts :) |
22:28 |
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cait |
chris_n: pushy? |
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chris_n |
git pushy |
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cait |
robin: thx :) I will try to find out if it does the calculations right without populating it tomorrow |
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robin |
ok :) |
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cait |
robin: but you can still look at it and try to remember ;) |
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* cait |
hands robin some coffee |
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robin |
I _think_ it was the case that if it was blank, it will use the default, which is possibly correct |
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cait |
chris_n: make chris push some of my patches ;) |
22:29 |
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robin |
a better solution would be to put the default in there. |
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* robin |
doesn't drink coffee |
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cait |
green tea? |
22:29 |
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robin |
nope |
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cait |
hot chocolate? |
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chris |
im unlikely to be pushing anything until the weekend |
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* chris_n |
just finished a cup of green tea |
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cait |
no wonder you feel pushy :) |
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robin |
yep, but that's not exactly a wakeup drink :) |
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chris_n |
cait: I was just pushing what chris pushed a bit earlier |
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chris_n |
green tea + honey = good |
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* cait |
had wine tonight... |
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robin |
wine is not usually the best for programming :) |
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robin |
well, depends I guess... |
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robin |
cait: actually, I noticed an error in that patch |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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cait |
robin: ok - what's the problem? |
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robin |
when creating the table it makes the default '0', when updating it makes it null |
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robin |
the null is correct I think. |
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cait |
hm ok? |
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cait |
yeah, 0 does not seem right |
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robin |
this won't be related to what you're seeing though. |
22:33 |
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cait |
no, but still good to know - I can fix that |
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cait |
if I remember tomorrow |
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robin |
IRC logs are your friend :) |
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cait |
Can't locate object method "new" via package "HTML::Template::Pro" (perhaps you forgot to load "HTML::Template::Pro"?) at InstallAuth.pm line 116 |
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robin |
that's not my fault :) |
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cait |
strange, I thought I installed that when I tested it the last time |
22:34 |
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cait |
no |
22:34 |
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cait |
I installed libtemplate-perl last time - what does it want now? |
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chris |
html::template::pro |
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chris |
the old template system |
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New commit(s) kohagit32: Incremental fix for Bug 3285 - Location on Add Subscription should be pull down <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71a7585efeb2ceb02> / Bug 5460: AutoEmailPrimaryAddress set to invalid value in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5f4779d0897cd5704> / Bug 5457: gather_print_notices.pl requires explicit style |
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cait |
chris: should I not have that? |
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chris |
yeah you should have that already, or old koha wouldnt work |
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cait |
strange |
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cait |
it tells me libhtml-template-pro-perl is already the newest version |
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cait |
robin: will update the bug once I fixed it and check the calculations - but at the moment I think populating the table would be good |
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cait |
chris: not sure what to do now - could try the cpan module? |
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chris_n |
cait: you are right, there are many mandatory sysprefs missing from the various translations |
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cait |
yeah :( |
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cait |
German is very complete - but others don't look good |
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robin |
cait: OK |
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chris_n |
so what exactly does "# Warning: Some of those sysprefs may rather have to be added to English sysprefs" mean? |
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chris_n |
don't sysprefs need to be added to every translation? |
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cait |
at the moment I think they have to |
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cait |
because the web installer will take all files from your mandatory folder |
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cait |
from the language you chose at the beginning |
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cait |
chris_n: perhaps some translations have too many sys prefs? |
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cait |
old sys prefs missing in en? |
22:46 |
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chris_n |
so does xt/syspref.t use en as the comparison? |
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chris_n |
looks like it does |
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cait |
can we make hudson run the xt tests too? |
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chris |
it does |
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hudsonbot |
* Ian Walls: Bug 5457: gather_print_notices.pl requires explicit stylesheet |
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chris |
http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]alid_templates_t/ |
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cait |
chris: I was looking for xt/syspref.t |
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chris |
it runs everything in the xt dir |
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chris |
ill manually add that one as well tho |
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chris |
what is xt/check_sysprefs.t |
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chris |
if someone could check that and remove if its no longer used |
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chris |
that will save confusion |
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chris |
!hudson build koha_master now |
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chris |
!hudson build koha_3.2.x now |
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cait |
chris: not sure what it does, fails when I try to run it |
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chris |
ah checks for missing sysprefs in the database |
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cait |
good night all! |
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chris |
night cait |
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chris_n |
chris: it's an important test I think |
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chris_n |
many sysprefs are missing from several other languages |
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chris |
which one syspref.t |
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chris_n |
yup |
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chris |
or check_sysprefs.t |
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chris |
because there are 2 |
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chris |
and i want to know which one is the real one |
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chris_n |
ahh |
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chris_n |
syspref.t is what fails here |
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chris |
right, switched hudson to run that |
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chris_n |
sadly the history appears truncated for both of those files |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -0.4�C (6:15 PM EST on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
gah typo |
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chris |
chris_n: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Build/testReport/ |
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chris_n |
just as i figured |
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chris_n |
well tests++ |
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* chris_n |
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