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brendan_l |
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munin |
brendan_l: The current temperature in westside ukiah, Ukiah, California is 7.7�C (5:24 PM PST on November 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.20 in 988.7 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 am PST Tuesday above 2500 feet... |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 14.0�C (8:41 PM EST on November 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:53 |
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brendan_l |
heya chris_n |
| 02:07 |
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brendan_l |
for some reason I love looking at git.koha-community.org :) |
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jcamins_a is now known as jcamins |
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jcamins |
brendan_l: yeah, it's pretty great. |
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brendan_l |
heya jcamins :) |
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chris |
http://download.koha-community[…]wstats/awstats.pl |
| 02:16 |
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chris |
is fun too |
| 02:17 |
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brendan_l |
is that just from downloads? or git too? |
| 02:18 |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
| 02:18 |
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jcamins |
That's a lot of bandwidth usage. |
| 02:23 |
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chris |
just downloads |
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Amit |
heya chris |
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chris |
hi Amit |
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brendan_l |
Hi Amit |
| 03:27 |
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Amit |
heya brendan |
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chris |
koha? |
| 03:43 |
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ibot |
somebody said koha was a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info |
| 03:43 |
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brendan_l |
awesome? |
| 03:43 |
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chris |
it has to learn first |
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chris |
awesome is like totally cool |
| 03:43 |
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chris |
awesome? |
| 03:43 |
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ibot |
awesome is, like, like totally cool |
| 03:44 |
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chris |
ibot: forget awesome |
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ibot |
chris: I forgot awesome |
| 03:47 |
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chris |
ibot: 1+1? |
| 03:47 |
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ibot |
2 |
| 03:47 |
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chris |
it does other things, but learning factoids is the most useful |
| 03:49 |
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chris |
catalogue search not working? |
| 03:49 |
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ibot |
well, catalogue search not working is often caused by zebra not reindexing check the search faq at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 03:49 |
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chris |
like that |
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richard |
ibot: hi |
| 03:52 |
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ibot |
que tal, richard |
| 03:53 |
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richard |
heh |
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richard |
sounds familiar :) |
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chris |
:) |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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brendan_l |
heya cait |
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cait |
hi brendan :) |
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daniel |
hi cait |
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kmkale |
hi all |
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cait |
mornig kmkale :) |
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kmkale |
morning cait |
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cait |
!hudson botsnack breakfast |
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hudsonbot |
cait: yummy! how did you know that breakfast is my favorite food? |
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brendan_l |
alright night all ;) |
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cait |
night brendan |
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cait |
:) |
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chris |
cait? |
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ibot |
i guess cait is a developer! |
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cait |
here |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
chris? |
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chris |
catalogue search not working? |
| 06:12 |
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ibot |
hmmm... catalogue search not working is often caused by zebra not reindexing check the search faq at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 06:12 |
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chris |
cait: just playing with the bot |
| 06:12 |
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cait |
oh |
| 06:12 |
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cait |
we have a chat bot |
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chris |
yup |
| 06:13 |
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chris |
until it gets too annoying and i turn it off |
| 06:13 |
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chris |
:) |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
and you told him I am a developer? poor bot :) |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
he reacts to ? |
| 06:13 |
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chris |
cait is also a librarian |
| 06:13 |
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ibot |
okay, chris. |
| 06:13 |
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chris |
cait? |
| 06:13 |
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ibot |
well, cait is a developer! or a librarian |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
lol |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
now you have confused him :) |
| 06:14 |
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chris |
:) |
| 06:14 |
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chris |
he learns from is/was |
| 06:14 |
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chris |
koha? |
| 06:14 |
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ibot |
somebody said koha was a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
that's cool |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
chris is great |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
chris? |
| 06:14 |
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ibot |
somebody said chris was great |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 06:14 |
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chris |
no chris is tired |
| 06:15 |
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cait |
you can be both |
| 06:15 |
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chris |
ibot: chris is tired |
| 06:15 |
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ibot |
...but chris is great... |
| 06:15 |
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chris |
ibot: no, chris is tired |
| 06:15 |
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ibot |
...but chris is great... |
| 06:15 |
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chris |
hehe he wont listen to me now :) |
| 06:15 |
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cait |
good ibot |
| 06:15 |
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chris |
chris is also tired |
| 06:15 |
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ibot |
okay, chris. |
| 06:15 |
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chris |
chris? |
| 06:15 |
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ibot |
i think chris is great or tired |
| 06:16 |
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cait |
it's still early to be tired - crazy day? |
| 06:17 |
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chris |
yeah, long day |
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cait |
I am still waking up |
| 06:18 |
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cait |
have a feeling I will have a long day too |
| 06:20 |
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cait |
will never get over this time zone thing :) |
| 06:23 |
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chris |
hehe |
| 06:24 |
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cait |
want me to test something? |
| 06:26 |
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cait |
will perhaps have some time later today |
| 06:28 |
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chris |
hmmm |
| 06:29 |
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chris |
cant think of anything off the top of my head |
| 06:30 |
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cait |
ok |
| 06:31 |
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cait |
hm, looking at my inbox... |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
there are some bugzilla mails from chris_n |
| 06:32 |
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chris |
ah yep, any of those you want to look at would be fine |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
already tested some of them on HEAD |
| 06:33 |
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cait |
but retesting in 3.2.1 required too? |
| 06:33 |
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chris |
that wouldnt hurt |
| 06:33 |
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cait |
I feared you would say that :) |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
when I looked for a bug about hte state field in borrowers, I found some older bugs |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
like bug 3777 |
| 06:35 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3777 trivial, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Field Sizes Inconsistent |
| 06:35 |
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chris |
ahhh |
| 06:35 |
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chris |
cool, hopefully can close a bunch your patch |
| 06:35 |
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chris |
with |
| 06:36 |
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chris |
im hoping someone will signoff on it soon :) |
| 06:36 |
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cait |
no , there wasn't a bug for this, only discussion on the mailing list |
| 06:36 |
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cait |
had to open up a new one |
| 06:36 |
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cait |
but came across some other bugs |
| 06:36 |
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chris |
ah right |
| 06:37 |
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cait |
does it make sense to write a patch to change the field sizes? |
| 06:38 |
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cait |
chris: chris_n wanted to look at the state thing - not sure my addresses look right :) |
| 06:38 |
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cait |
bug 3656 |
| 06:38 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3656 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, Specify fields to be omitted from the patron record |
| 06:38 |
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cait |
this is a old patch from hdl - but not sure there is a better way to do it in with the new templating system |
| 06:39 |
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chris |
yep |
| 06:39 |
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cait |
yep to what? :) |
| 06:39 |
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chris |
yeah and a patch for 3777 would be good too |
| 06:39 |
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cait |
both are things I could work on but not sure it makes sense :) |
| 06:39 |
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chris |
id do 3777 first |
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cait |
ok |
| 06:40 |
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cait |
do you agree with nicoles suggestion of mediumtext? |
| 06:41 |
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chris |
id just make them text |
| 06:42 |
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cait |
ok |
| 06:42 |
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cait |
my new state fields are medium text... but I can change that :) |
| 06:44 |
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cait |
allowed myself not to start with my new distance study course until 1st december |
| 06:44 |
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chris |
:) |
| 06:45 |
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cait |
so I have some time to work on koha (which is more fun than reading a book about accounting) |
| 06:45 |
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chris |
hehe yes |
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chris |
back after a powercut |
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magnus |
hiya kf & #koha |
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kf |
hi magnus |
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chris |
hi magnus |
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magnus |
kia ora chris |
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* magnus |
moves over to the other computer |
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kf |
magnus: where is your other computer? oslo? |
| 08:54 |
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* kf |
hides |
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magnus |
hehe, about 10 meters from the first one - i took a detour :-) |
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kmkale |
hi all |
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magnus |
hi kmkale |
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kmkale |
hi magnus |
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| 09:35 |
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Yemeni |
Hello world |
| 09:35 |
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Yemeni |
could anyone confirm a (non sluggish) clean installation of Koha 3.2 on Fedora 13? |
| 09:37 |
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kf |
I have only done it on ubuntu. |
| 09:38 |
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kf |
chris? |
| 09:38 |
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ibot |
it has been said that chris is great or tired |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
ibot: chris is great and sometimes tired |
| 09:39 |
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ibot |
...but chris is great or tired... |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
chris is only sometimes tired |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
ibot? |
| 09:39 |
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ibot |
yes, kf? |
| 09:39 |
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Yemeni |
lol |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
chris is always great and only sometimes tired. |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
chris? |
| 09:39 |
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ibot |
it has been said that chris is great or tired |
| 09:39 |
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kf |
hmpf. |
| 09:40 |
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Yemeni |
I have a fully configured fedora server, so I'm doing my best not to format it |
| 09:41 |
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kmkale |
wow chris is got an ibot and kf can talk to it. how cool is that? ;) |
| 09:42 |
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kmkale |
I want one too :(( |
| 09:43 |
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Yemeni |
iboot, do you know how to install koha? |
| 09:43 |
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Yemeni |
lol |
| 09:43 |
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Yemeni |
ibot, do you know how to install koha? |
| 09:43 |
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ibot |
i haven't a clue, yemeni |
| 09:43 |
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Yemeni |
oh ibot they should've updated your kb, at least |
| 09:43 |
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kf |
ibot is still small - he needs to learn more :) |
| 09:44 |
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kf |
koha? |
| 09:44 |
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ibot |
koha is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info |
| 09:44 |
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kf |
kmkale: you can talk to it too |
| 09:45 |
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kf |
kmkale is a good developer, providing unit tests for his patches. |
| 09:45 |
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kf |
kmkale? |
| 09:45 |
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ibot |
it has been said that kmkale is a good developer, providing unit tests for his patches. |
| 09:45 |
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kmkale |
:) |
| 09:45 |
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kf |
cait? |
| 09:45 |
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ibot |
somebody said cait was a developer! or a librarian |
| 09:45 |
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kmkale |
ibot++ |
| 09:45 |
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kmkale |
and kf++ |
| 09:45 |
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kf |
chris++ |
| 09:46 |
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kmkale |
yes chris++ |
| 09:46 |
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kmkale |
so ibot globs anything starting with a nick? |
| 09:46 |
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kmkale |
or you have to run some command? |
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magnus |
looks like you just have to start with a nick |
| 09:49 |
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magnus |
xyz? |
| 09:49 |
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magnus |
xyz is cool! |
| 09:49 |
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magnus |
xyz? |
| 09:49 |
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ibot |
xyz is cool! |
| 09:50 |
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magnus |
or maybe just "something is something"... |
| 09:50 |
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kf |
chris told me he picks up things with is/was |
| 09:50 |
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kmkale |
chris? |
| 09:50 |
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ibot |
chris is great or tired |
| 09:51 |
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kf |
Konstanz is a town in Germany, near to the Swiss border. |
| 09:51 |
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kmkale |
humm teher ibot did not glob kf's sentence |
| 09:51 |
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kf |
no, he didn't believe me :) |
| 09:51 |
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kf |
Konstanz? |
| 09:51 |
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ibot |
rumour has it Konstanz is a town in Germany, near to the Swiss border |
| 09:52 |
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kmkale |
hehe so it picks up only the first time use |
| 09:52 |
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kf |
hm, no, I taught him to say chirs is great and chris added the tired part |
| 09:52 |
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kf |
I am trying to make him forget that :) |
| 09:52 |
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kf |
chris is not tired |
| 09:52 |
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kf |
chris? |
| 09:52 |
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ibot |
i think chris is great or tired |
| 09:52 |
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kf |
grr |
| 09:52 |
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chris |
ibot: forget chris |
| 09:52 |
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ibot |
chris: I forgot chris |
| 09:52 |
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kf |
hey |
| 09:52 |
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kf |
:) |
| 09:53 |
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kf |
you were tired - why are you still here? |
| 09:53 |
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magnus |
chris? |
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chris |
had a nap, woke up again :) |
| 09:53 |
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chris |
ibot: .no? |
| 09:53 |
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ibot |
chris: i haven't a clue |
| 09:53 |
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kf |
heard us shouting your name? |
| 09:54 |
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chris |
yeah, computer beeps |
| 09:54 |
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kf |
sorry |
| 09:54 |
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chris |
s'ok |
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kmkale_ is now known as kmkale |
| 09:58 |
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kmkale |
Thane? |
| 09:58 |
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kmkale |
Thane is a city of lakes on the outskirts of Mumbai, India. |
| 09:58 |
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kmkale |
Thane? |
| 09:58 |
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ibot |
somebody said Thane was a city of lakes on the outskirts of Mumbai, India. |
| 09:59 |
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kmkale |
ibot do you know any other tricks? |
| 09:59 |
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ibot |
kmkale: bugger all, i dunno |
| 09:59 |
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kmkale |
;( |
| 09:59 |
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magnus |
ibot help |
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kmkale |
not a very helpful creature our ibot |
| 10:02 |
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magnus |
well, try "member:ibot help" and it will talk to you in private... |
| 10:02 |
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magnus |
sorry try "ibot help" |
| 10:02 |
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kmkale |
ibot help |
| 10:05 |
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kmkale |
cool |
| 10:09 |
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magnus |
documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 10:09 |
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magnus |
documentation? |
| 10:09 |
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ibot |
i guess documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 10:11 |
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kmkale |
bbl |
| 10:15 |
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magnus |
karma for kf |
| 10:15 |
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ibot |
kf has karma of 1 |
| 10:15 |
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magnus |
@karma kf |
| 10:15 |
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munin |
magnus: Karma for "kf" has been increased 33 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 33. |
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kf |
ibot help |
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kf |
hm. you should not click on the link ibot is suggesting... |
| 10:28 |
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magnus |
hm, i won't... |
| 10:35 |
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bigbrovar |
Hi guys. is there a way to attach an item to a library branch other using the 952$b tag. I have created two libraries and every item in our catalog is mapped to a particular librarie using the code I created for that library. when I search all seems to be fine. Just that I can not seem to get refined search by library to work |
| 10:36 |
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bigbrovar |
any time I tell koha to search items in a particular library it always comes up with zero result. even though the book searched belongs to that library |
| 10:36 |
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bigbrovar |
search only works when I search all libraries |
| 10:37 |
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kf |
no, 952$a and $b are the fields |
| 10:37 |
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kf |
you could try and check your items table ant the marcxml field |
| 10:40 |
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bigbrovar |
kf: so it MOST be 952$a and 952$b and not just 952$b? |
| 10:41 |
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bigbrovar |
and what what do u mean by "items table ant the marcxml field" how do I do that. (I am very new at koha and linux too ) |
| 10:41 |
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kf |
ah, I thought about using sql to look what is in your database |
| 10:42 |
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kf |
and yes, both |
| 10:42 |
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kf |
you could try and change some items |
| 10:42 |
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kf |
and test if search works after that |
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kf |
sorry, accidently closed window |
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bigbrovar |
kf: is there a way to batch edit imported items and add the 95$a tag? because items where batch imported from a mrc file migrated from spreadsheet |
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kmkale |
bigbrovar: have you already started using the migrated data? |
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kf |
bigbrovar: in 3.2 you can use the batch edit item tool |
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kf |
but reimporting would be perhaps faster, if you are still testing and not using the data |
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kf |
depending on the number of your items |
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Amit |
heya kf, kmkale |
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bigbrovar |
kmkale: yeah I have imported them to catalog. but the koha is still not yet in use. I am still working on it even though once all issues are resolved it should be open to the public soon |
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bigbrovar |
kf yeah I think so too. I am already on it |
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kmkale |
yup adding a tag in marcedit will be much simpler and faster |
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kmkale |
hi Amit |
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kf |
hi Amit |
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kf |
chris_n: around? |
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kf |
probably a bit too early |
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kf |
fredericd: around? |
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kmkale |
google refine. what a tool !! |
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chris_n |
kf: here now for just a moment |
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kf |
ah good timing |
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kf |
just came back from lunch |
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chris_n |
lunch++ |
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* chris_n |
just came back from breakfast :) |
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kf |
I only wanted to ask if it's possible to update the po files a few days before the next release |
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kf |
because we have some string changes and new strings that show up in English now in 3.2 |
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kf |
3.2.1 |
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chris_n |
kf: sure |
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chris_n |
I think there is some latency in the transfer of translation-manager |
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kf |
so wanted to tell you that and ask fredericd about it later :) |
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chris_n |
fredericd does not have his site up yet I think |
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kf |
ok, will ask chris about it |
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chris_n |
so if there are updated po files available in the days before 3.2.2, we'll be glad to include them:) |
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kf |
that was my thought :) |
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kf |
perhaps still some strings will escape, but not so many |
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kf |
and owen did some nice patches to make some things translatable |
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chris_n |
I did speak with chris prior to the 3.2.1 release and it seems that only a few patches were available for the translation related files which were included |
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kf |
did you get my mail about your record? |
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chris_n |
I did |
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kf |
yeah, because the po files need an update |
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kf |
german is at 100% - but the strings are missing from the files |
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chris_n |
this has been a busy time due to a coworker being in the hospital |
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kf |
I thought more about it - are your $9 fields visible in the framework? |
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chris_n |
yes |
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kf |
if not perhaps someone linked an authority, tried to delete it later, but couldn't delete the $9 field, because it was not visible |
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kf |
ah ok |
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kf |
hi jwagner |
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* chris_n |
thinks you are correct about the authority problem |
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chris_n |
and will have a look as soon as things settle down here |
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jwagner |
Guten tag kf |
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kf |
@later tell chris can you update the po files for 3.2 some time? there are a lot of new strings that were previously not translatable and some fuzzy stuff - would be nice to get it into 3.2.2 :) |
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munin |
kf: The operation succeeded. |
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kf |
so I don't forget it |
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* druthb |
wonders what jwagner will come up with today to try to make her life miserable. She was batting .000 yesterday. |
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* jwagner |
plans to work hard on the problem.... |
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ebegin |
good morning everyone |
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jwagner |
Bonjour ebegin |
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bigbrovar |
could someone please explain to me the difference btw the 852$a marc tag and koha's 952$a and b tags |
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bigbrovar |
can they be used interchangeably |
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ebegin |
hi jwagner ;) |
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hdl |
hi |
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kf |
bigbrovar: no |
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kf |
bigbrovar: theoretically you can configure koha to use a different field for items, but practically you would have to edit the zebra files too - because the indexes will be all wrong |
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kf |
bigbrovar: so staying witht he koha standard is the best way |
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daniel |
good morning |
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kf |
morning daniel :) |
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druthb |
kf++ |
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daniel |
morning kf |
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bigbrovar |
kf: ok can I use one of the branch libraries created as the value for the 852$a tag |
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daniel |
kmkale, thanks for that tip on google refine--i missed the news on that |
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kf |
druthb: huh? |
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kf |
bigbrovar: why do you want to fill the 852 tag? |
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druthb |
your answer to bigbrovar. You beat me to it. |
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daniel |
kmkale++ |
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kmkale |
thanks daniel but I was just repeating what someone else pointed out |
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kmkale |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi, kmkale! :) |
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bigbrovar |
kf: no reason particularly :) .. I am new at all this I guess I would remove the tag altogether. I am using marcedit to migrate the shreadsheet data to marc and location is one of the colum which I mapped to 852$a |
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kf |
ah ok |
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kf |
you don't need 852 to make koha work correctly |
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bigbrovar |
although I also have collums for holding library and owning library which I have mapped to 952$ a and b respectifully |
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kmkale |
bigbrovar: look at the koha to marc mapping link |
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bigbrovar |
kmkale: ok thanks |
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kf |
bigbrovar: but it probably doesn't hurt to store it there too |
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bigbrovar |
kf: thanks guess I would keep it but make it consistent with 952$a |
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kf |
druthb? |
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kf |
druthb is loves cookies. |
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kf |
hmpf, bad sentence |
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kf |
druthb? |
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ibot |
druthb is loves cookies. |
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druthb |
yes? |
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kf |
ibot: forget druthb |
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* druthb |
loves cookies. |
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ibot |
kf: I forgot druthb |
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jwagner |
kf, quit tempting druthb -- I need to keep her nose to the grindstone! |
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kf |
druthb is a big fan of cookies. |
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kf |
druthb? |
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ibot |
it has been said that druthb is a big fan of cookies. |
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kf |
jwagner: I am only teaching ibot - facts he need to know! |
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* druthb |
giggles. |
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jwagner |
Harrumph |
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druthb |
@quote get 102 |
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munin |
druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) |
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jwagner |
Poacher! |
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* druthb |
is miserable-proof today. She hands jwagner a plate of Eggs Benedict. |
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gmcharlt |
ibot: help |
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kmkale |
i see ibot is a instant hit |
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druthb |
Hm. |
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druthb |
kf is a good cook; she makes an excellent königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln. |
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druthb |
kf? |
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ibot |
hmmm... kf is trying to make him forget that :) |
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jwagner |
Pretty soon the bots are going to outnumber the humans on this channel.... |
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druthb |
kf? |
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ibot |
kf is trying to make him forget that :) |
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* druthb |
scratches her head. |
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kf |
hehe |
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kf |
he is picky |
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druthb |
kf? |
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ibot |
kf is trying to make him forget that :) |
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kf |
although I liked it better what he said about me before that *sniffs* |
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druthb |
kf is talented and fun. |
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druthb |
kf? |
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ibot |
i heard kf was trying to make him forget that :) |
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* druthb |
glares at ibot. |
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kf |
I wanted i... to forget what he knows about chris being tired |
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kf |
chris? |
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druthb |
jwagner? |
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kf |
ah, chris made him forget that... wah confusing |
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* druthb |
laughs evilly. |
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druthb |
jwagner is not good at making druthb miserable. |
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druthb |
jwagner? |
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ibot |
hmmm... jwagner is not good at making druthb miserable. |
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jwagner |
jwagner is very good at making druthb miserable! |
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jwagner |
jwagner? |
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ibot |
you are not good at making druthb miserable. |
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jwagner |
Harrumph! |
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* druthb |
cackles. |
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* jwagner |
tells druthb to quit cackling and get to work! |
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* druthb |
cheerfully gets to it. |
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druthb |
kf? |
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ibot |
i guess kf is an excellent cook: she makes tasty königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln. |
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* druthb |
grins. |
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kf |
oh my |
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kf |
I should not teach you German |
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kf |
cait? |
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ibot |
cait is a developer! or a librarian |
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kf |
pootle is down for me - can someone else check? |
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* druthb |
is enjoying learning German, a little at a time. |
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druthb |
Sometime about 2030, I might have enough German to be able to order a meal in a restaurant, and find the ladies' room and airport. Little bit o' progress at a time.. |
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druthb |
hi, sekjal. :) |
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sekjal |
hi, druthb! |
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kf |
ah; I think you coudl already guess most of the things on the meno |
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kf |
menu |
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kf |
so ordering should be no problem |
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kf |
pootle is back |
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druthb |
Oh, I could pick at it and figure out enough to keep from starving, I suspect. Kartoffeln are a staple pretty-much everywhere, just a matter of figuring out how they prepare 'em. |
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* druthb |
has gotten into elaborate mime acts with cooks who don't speak English much, a few times. |
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kf |
hehe |
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bigbrovar |
kf: thanks adding both 952a and b seems to have fixed the refine search by library problem. |
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bigbrovar |
now is there a way I can delete everything item in bib and start from scratch? |
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kf |
sorry, I am not sure I understand your question |
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bigbrovar |
like how can delete every previously imported items in koha and start from scratch |
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magnus |
bigbrovar: just items or complete records? |
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bigbrovar |
magnus: complete records I guess |
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bigbrovar |
I want to start afresh |
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bigbrovar |
I did delete from biblio in mysql but when I search I still see entries which are suppose to be deleted. even though click them gives a 404 msg |
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bigbrovar |
I want to start like I have never imported anything before.. like a fresh install |
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magnus |
bigbrovar: deleting from biblio, biblioitems and items is one way to do it - but until you reindex with zebra you will still get the old search results |
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magnus |
another way is to use the -d switch to bulkmarcimport.pl: http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]lkmarcimport.html |
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bigbrovar |
magnus: thanks |
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* druthb |
waves at magnus. |
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* magnus |
waves back at druthb |
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* kmkale |
is trying out google refine reconcile with freebase on book titles and isbn |
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magnus |
kmkale: sounds like fun! |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha |
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sekjal |
morning, jcamins! |
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druthb |
hi, jcamins. :) |
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jcamins |
magnus++ # for inspiring me to make pizza for dinner yesterday |
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magnus |
g'day jcamins - and welcome! |
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kmkale |
magnus: I get a *lot* of minuscule catalogs as part of working on the granthalaya.org project. It would be a great help if we can extract more biblio fields from freebase or some other sources using a tool like google refine. |
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magnus |
kmkale: do you know how gr talks to freebase? json? rdf? |
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kmkale |
magnus: json probabely. cause in filters you use jsonish |
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kmkale |
there is also fetch by url. maybe usefull for Indian books from sources like indcat |
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magnus |
openlibrary.org could perhaps be of interest too? |
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kmkale |
yup |
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kmkale |
and the capability of repairing data is awesome ofcourse |
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bigbrovar |
magnus: followed the bulkmarcimport link and used that. still old deleted records still show up in opac search. even after indexing |
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magnus |
bigbrovar: how did you index? you need to use the -r switch, i think |
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bigbrovar |
ok |
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kf |
hi jcamins and sekjal |
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jcamins |
Hello kf. |
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magnus |
hi schuster |
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schuster |
Hey all!! working on my secret kidspac project. Oh drat not a secret anymore! HA! finally getting around to coming back to it. |
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sekjal |
hi, kf |
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bigbrovar |
magnus: thank you so much. using the r switch like totally worked :) |
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magnus |
bigbrovar: cool! :-) |
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magnus |
hiya collum |
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wizzyrea |
@seen chris_n |
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munin |
wizzyrea: chris_n was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <chris_n> and will have a look as soon as things settle down here |
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druthb |
hi, wizzyrea! |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell chris_n wondering if the ohloh mirrors for 3.2.1 have been set up, but it's no rush. |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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druthb |
ibot: wizzyrea? |
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ibot |
wizzyrea is a ray of sunshine. |
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druthb |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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wizzyrea |
good morning to you too |
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jcamins |
ibot: druthb? |
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ibot |
druthb is a big fan of cookies. |
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druthb |
:) |
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jcamins |
ibot: jcamins? |
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ibot |
no idea, jcamins |
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jcamins |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: jcamins? |
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ibot |
wizzyrea: i haven't a clue |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
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wizzyrea |
wonder why |
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druthb |
ibot: jcamins? |
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ibot |
i think jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. |
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wizzyrea |
aha! |
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druthb |
ibot: kf? |
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ibot |
it has been said that kf is an excellent cook: she makes tasty königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln. |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: cait? |
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ibot |
hmmm... cait is a developer! or a librarian |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: chris? |
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ibot |
wish i knew, wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
oooo |
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druthb |
ooooo. |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: magnus? |
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ibot |
wizzyrea: i haven't a clue |
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wizzyrea |
mmm hmm. |
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druthb |
you can tell it something with <user> is <foo>. It'll remember that until told to forget it. |
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druthb |
magnus is an awesome fellow. |
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druthb |
magnus? |
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ibot |
hmmm... magnus is an awesome fellow. |
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magnus |
:-) |
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kf |
I think was works too :) |
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wizzyrea |
OHHHHH |
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wizzyrea |
oh THIS is HANDY |
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jcamins |
ibot: postfix installation instructions? |
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ibot |
no idea, jcamins |
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rhcl |
königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln = meatballs and potatoes, or in English, Hamburgers and french fries |
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rhcl |
I'm hungry |
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kf |
rhcl: hm not quite the same |
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wizzyrea |
documentation? |
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ibot |
rumour has it documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
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rhcl |
almost |
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jcamins |
ibot: postfix installation documentation is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
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ibot |
OK, jcamins. |
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kf |
search? |
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kf |
search problem? |
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druthb |
Meatballs with a cream sauce and capers, and potatoes boiled in salt water. |
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jcamins |
postfix installation documentation? |
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ibot |
postfix installation documentation is probably at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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wizzyrea |
search |
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wizzyrea |
search help |
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jcamins |
ibot: search help? |
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ibot |
jcamins: no idea |
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wizzyrea |
faq |
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rhcl |
substitute ketchup for cream, slap 'em on some bread, slice the potatoes & fry 'em = Happy meal |
| 15:18 |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: faq |
| 15:18 |
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ibot |
wizzyrea: huh? |
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wizzyrea |
hrm |
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wizzyrea |
ibot faq? |
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ibot |
no idea, wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: faq? |
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ibot |
wizzyrea: bugger all, i dunno |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph. |
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jcamins |
ibot: searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 15:19 |
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ibot |
OK, jcamins. |
| 15:19 |
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jcamins |
searching faq? |
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ibot |
it has been said that searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
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wizzyrea |
faq? |
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ibot |
hmmm... faq is found at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
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wizzyrea |
lulz ;) |
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jcamins |
Hrm. |
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jcamins |
wiki faq? |
| 15:20 |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: faq? |
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ibot |
i heard faq was found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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wizzyrea |
there we go |
| 15:20 |
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jcamins |
searching faq? |
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ibot |
searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 15:20 |
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jcamins |
Okay, good. It can handle multiple words. |
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druthb |
Hrm. |
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druthb |
ibot: ibot? |
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ibot |
rumour has it i am still small - he needs to learn more :) |
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druthb |
lol |
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jcamins |
ibot: koha livecd is at http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/ |
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ibot |
OK, jcamins. |
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wizzyrea |
git? |
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ibot |
git is, like, found at http://git.koha-community.org |
| 15:22 |
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wizzyrea |
bugzilla? |
| 15:22 |
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ibot |
bugzilla is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org |
| 15:22 |
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druthb |
hm... |
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druthb |
ibot: where is the faq? |
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ibot |
the faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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druthb |
grooooooovy. |
| 15:22 |
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wizzyrea |
paste? |
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ibot |
paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
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kf |
he is nice |
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kf |
can we keep him? plz? |
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wizzyrea |
i love ibot. |
| 15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
community events? |
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jcamins |
ibot: help? |
| 15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
koha community events |
| 15:23 |
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ibot |
koha community events are found at http://koha-community.org/category/events/ |
| 15:24 |
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druthb |
ooo.... |
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druthb |
ibot: forget druthb |
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ibot |
druthb: I forgot druthb |
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druthb |
ibot: druthb is a geek|fond of cookies. |
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wizzyrea |
support? |
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ibot |
OK, druthb. |
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ibot |
support is found at http://koha-community.org/support/ |
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druthb |
druthb? |
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ibot |
you are fond of cookies. |
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druthb |
druthb? |
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ibot |
somebody said druthb was fond of cookies. |
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druthb |
druthb? |
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ibot |
i guess druthb is fond of cookies. |
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druthb |
druthb? |
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ibot |
well, druthb is a geek |
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druthb |
WOO HOO! |
| 15:25 |
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wizzyrea |
mailing lists? |
| 15:25 |
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ibot |
mailing lists are found at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 15:25 |
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wizzyrea |
so. very. handy |
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druthb |
Wonder if you can feed it more than two choices for the terms? |
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druthb |
sure 'nuf...you can. |
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wizzyrea |
chris? |
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ibot |
chris is the most helpful guy |
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wizzyrea |
manual pdf |
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ibot |
i guess manual pdf is found at http://koha-community.org/wp-c[…]a3-2manual-en.pdf |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: I love you |
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ibot |
wizzyrea: sorry... |
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wizzyrea |
nengard you will love this |
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wizzyrea |
pdf manual |
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wizzyrea |
manual pdf |
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ibot |
well, manual pdf is found at http://koha-community.org/wp-c[…]a3-2manual-en.pdf |
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kf |
nengard? |
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kf |
oh |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - didn't we have the manual in pdf already |
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nengard |
oh! - that's a bot!!! |
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nengard |
I get it :) |
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nengard |
cute |
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jcamins |
ibot: what are you? |
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ibot |
i am still small - he needs to learn more :) |
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jcamins |
:) |
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magnus |
try "ibot help" to see available commands - in private ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
so whose grand idea was ibot? |
| 15:41 |
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wizzyrea |
and he/she needs a name |
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kf |
wizzyrea: you have 1 guess |
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jcamins |
magnus: yes, I know. |
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wizzyrea |
chris? |
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ibot |
rumour has it chris is a huge rugby fan |
| 15:41 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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kf |
hehe |
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kf |
right :) |
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kf |
ibot: where do you live? |
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ibot |
kf: i don't know |
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kf |
poor thing |
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magnus |
hiya trea |
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trea |
kia ora magnus |
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trea |
how's norway today? |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0�C (4:20 PM CET on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
apart from that: not too bad... ;-) |
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ebegin |
@wunder montreal, canada |
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munin |
ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 4.0�C (10:18 AM EST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: (Falling). |
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trea |
heh. that was my next thing to do |
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magnus |
@wunder saltdal, norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0�C (4:20 PM CET on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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ibot |
i already had it that way, munin. |
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magnus |
? |
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magnus |
@wunder rognan, norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Fauske Sentrum, Fauske, Norway is -8.9�C (4:45 PM CET on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.2�C (4:45 PM CET on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
@wunder sulitjelma, norway |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder 66047 |
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munin |
magnus: Error: No such location could be found. |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -0.4�C (9:45 AM CST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
huh, how can the windchill be warmer then the actual temp? |
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wizzyrea |
omg our bots are talking |
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wizzyrea |
that does seem odd doesn't it |
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jcamins |
current temperature in Bodo, Norway? |
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ibot |
i heard current temperature in Bodo, Norway was -6.0�C (4:20 PM CET on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
i wonder if you can teach ibot to ignore certain users (munin, for example) |
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jcamins |
I hope so. |
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trea |
i want to watch them fight. is that so wrong? |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: trea? |
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ibot |
i haven't a clue, wizzyrea |
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trea |
noooooo |
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druthb |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
trea? |
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ibot |
rumour has it trea is a fan of bot fights |
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trea |
uh ^.^ |
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trea |
>.> |
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trea |
<.< |
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wizzyrea |
ok sorry back to real work |
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collum |
A belated hi to magnus. :) |
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Elwell |
ibot: list |
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ibot |
Elwell: excuse me? |
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wizzyrea |
elwell: /msg ibot help |
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Elwell |
http://echelog.matzon.dk/logs/[…]upybot/1259017200 (you may want to set supybot.plugins.Relay.punishOtherRelayBots ) |
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Elwell |
depending what ibot's based on |
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ebegin |
I'm tying to limit the date using the content of 260$c (date of publication) instead of the 008/07-10 value. Is this possible? |
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jcamins |
ebegin: I'm not sure how you'd do it with limits, but you could add a search option using jquery. The index is copydate. |
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ebegin |
jcamins, can it be done using a range? for example 2000- |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Probably not. |
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jcamins |
It might be possible to change the type of index, but I don't know what you'd change it to. |
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ebegin |
ok, i'll look at it. |
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sophie_m |
hdl : MT3759 (fichiers pour import QRGA) c'est résolu ? |
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sophie_m |
hdl MT4940 : je n'avais pas noté que c'était à moi de le reprendre. Tu pourrais me donner quelques indications ? |
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* chris_n |
thinks maybe sophie_m is typing in the wrong window ;-) |
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kmkale |
hi chris_n |
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sophie_m |
chris_n is wright :-[ |
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sophie_m |
sorry |
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chris_n |
heya kmkale |
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hdl |
hi all |
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magnus |
hi, flying fox! |
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kf |
hm, does it make sense to have virtualshelves unter administration in the sys pref editor? |
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kf |
perhaps opac would be better? |
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magnus |
yeah, i think opac would be the first place i would look for it... |
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jcamins |
I think maybe we need to revise INSTALL.debian to say at the very top "THIS WILL INSTALL ALL DEPENDENCIES. REALLY. JUST TRY IT. IT MIGHT WORK. I SWEAR." |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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trea |
"try it. you might like it." |
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markk |
hello all |
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jcamins |
trea: exactly. I sure liked how easy it was to install Koha. |
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jcamins |
Hello, markk. |
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markk |
last time i had problems with barcodes not being incremented ... it was solved in the 3.2 live cd version. but my question now is how to make the incrementation to be +1 not as it is now just replacing the far left 0 by 1 for every new barcode. |
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trea |
jcamins: i had the pleasure of doing my first debian install on a virtualbox system a month or so ago; i found it downright pleasant compared to some other installs i've had |
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trea |
debian koha install I meant to say |
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wizzyrea |
does anybody remember what Kristina's last name is? |
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wizzyrea |
Hoeppner? |
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jcamins |
trea: yeah, but people keep on wanting to download stuff from perl.org and apache.org and who knows where else and install it manually. |
| 17:03 |
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wizzyrea |
but they want to install koha on their PS2! |
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jcamins |
Which makes me think that the documentation needs to be more explicit that it's not necessary. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: so it would seem. |
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magnus |
wizzyrea: yes, Hoeppner (i suspect that's really Höppner?) |
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trea |
jcamins: the sysadmin in me thinks to just script/automate as much as possible, but that isn't teaching one to fish. then again, if the goal is a working koha install, then you're not teaching people to fish anyway |
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hdl |
magnus_a: tx for the photos btw |
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wizzyrea |
magnus: thanks |
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jcamins |
trea: I'm all for teaching people to fish, but installing software in Debian really is as easy as typing "apt-get install whatever." |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, and jinx |
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wizzyrea |
(very often) |
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* wizzyrea |
loves debian for this reason |
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jcamins |
See, we need to make this more clear in the INSTALL.debian. |
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* jcamins |
adds this to his to-do list. |
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kf |
hm, and authoritysep is under cataloging - why not authorities? |
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jcamins |
I don't know. What does it do? |
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kf |
the signs that show between your authorities I think |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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kf |
standard is -- |
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jcamins |
I still don't know. |
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kf |
perhaps I am just thinking different :) |
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kf |
and alot of things would match different categories easily |
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jcamins |
I would've thought it would go in Authorities, too. |
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kf |
like StaffSerialIssueDisplayCount - is cataloging now, could be staff - but I would search it in Serials |
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jcamins |
I bet authoritysep isn't even really used anymore, is it? |
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kf |
and subscriptionhistory too |
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kf |
not sure |
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kf |
perhaps in non-xslt |
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kf |
never look at that |
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wizzyrea |
I actually think we can make install.x much simpler |
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wizzyrea |
I want to do a suite of shell scripts for the source install, but I sense that the packages might be taking over (rightfully) |
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wizzyrea |
plus, there are folks who probably wouldnt' want people running shell scripts (most often) as root |
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wizzyrea |
*shrug* I suppose the only thing to do is just do it an see if it flies. |
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druthb |
doo eeeet! |
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wizzyrea |
i do love writing shell scripts. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I'm having trouble imagining how you could make it much simpler than it already is. |
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wizzyrea |
lots of stuff in there can be combined, or run sequentially without a human typing it in. Not a lot is system specific < qualified, since I haven't seriously pursued a one script to rule them all |
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wizzyrea |
(yet) |
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jcamins |
That's true, but that's the easy part. |
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wizzyrea |
especially if you're starting from scratch |
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wizzyrea |
where simpler = fewer steps |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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kmkale |
good night |
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kf |
chris is writing mails - a good indicator I shouldn't be still at work right now |
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jcamins |
kf: yes, go home. |
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jcamins |
ibot: cait? |
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ibot |
cait is probably a developer! or a librarian |
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kf |
hmpf! |
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wizzyrea |
cait? |
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ibot |
somebody said cait was a developer! or a librarian or a very sweet girl |
| 17:32 |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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* kf |
blushes |
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wizzyrea |
ibot will add one to your description if you say |
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ibot |
wizzyrea: huh? |
| 17:33 |
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wizzyrea |
x is also y |
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trea |
heh |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
can oyu make im forget a single fact? |
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kf |
I tried is not... but didn't work |
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jcamins |
I think <replace>? |
| 17:34 |
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jcamins |
Or "No, ..."? |
| 17:34 |
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jcamins |
ibot: help corrections |
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wizzyrea |
cait |
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wizzyrea |
cait? |
| 17:34 |
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ibot |
cait is not a very sweet girl |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
aww |
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wizzyrea |
no no |
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wizzyrea |
wrong! |
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jcamins |
ibot: No, cait is a developer! or a librarian |
| 17:34 |
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ibot |
...but cait is not a very sweet girl... |
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jcamins |
ibot: cait? |
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ibot |
cait is a developer! or a librarian |
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jcamins |
Better? |
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wizzyrea |
i fixed, sorry |
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kf |
cait? |
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ibot |
i heard cait was a developer! or a librarian |
| 17:35 |
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wizzyrea |
manual? |
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kf |
hm |
| 17:36 |
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jcamins |
postfix installation instructions? |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
postfix? |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph. |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
pdf manual |
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ibot |
pdf manual is found at http://koha-community.org/wp-c[…]a3-2manual-en.pdf |
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kf |
I didn't mean that fact... |
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kf |
hmpf! :) |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: postfix installation instructions |
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ibot |
wizzyrea: sorry... |
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jcamins |
Whoops. |
| 17:36 |
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jcamins |
postfix installation documentation? |
| 17:36 |
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ibot |
hmmm... postfix installation documentation is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
| 17:36 |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
| 17:36 |
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jcamins |
There we go. |
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druthb |
spelling counts. |
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jcamins |
druthb: correct wording counts! |
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wizzyrea |
postfix? |
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ibot |
it has been said that postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
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kf |
ok, time to go - see you later :) |
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druthb |
:) I had a history prof in college who pointed out that mis-spelling one President's name with that of another was a serious typo. |
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wizzyrea |
help with postfix? |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph. |
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jcamins |
ibot: where is postfix? |
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ibot |
no idea, jcamins |
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wizzyrea |
postfix? |
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wizzyrea |
postfix? |
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jcamins |
ibot: where is postfix installation documentation? |
| 17:39 |
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ibot |
postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
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ibot |
postfix installation documentation is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
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wizzyrea |
single words probably easier to remember |
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jcamins |
Yeah, probably. |
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jcamins |
Seeing as how I was the one who programmed postfix installation documentation a few hours ago and I couldn't remember it. |
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wizzyrea |
documentation? |
| 17:41 |
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ibot |
i think documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
manual? |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
manual? |
| 17:41 |
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ibot |
manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
faq? |
| 17:41 |
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ibot |
faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
searching faq? |
| 17:41 |
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ibot |
searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
love. that. bog. |
| 17:41 |
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wizzyrea |
bot even. |
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jcamins |
Koha? |
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ibot |
hmmm... Koha is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info |
| 17:42 |
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jcamins |
Current temperature for Bodo, Norway? |
| 17:42 |
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jcamins |
:) |
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nengard |
ibot you're so cute |
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ibot |
nengard: excuse me? |
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nengard |
you heard me :) |
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* wizzyrea |
pats ibot |
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nengard |
hehe |
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trea |
heh |
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* druthb |
gives ibot a cookie. |
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jcamins |
ibot: botsnack cookie |
| 17:50 |
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ibot |
:) |
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druthb |
awww! |
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jcamins |
owen? |
| 17:53 |
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jcamins |
Hello, owen. |
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owen |
Hi |
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Brooke |
*sneeze* |
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Brooke |
http://kete.library.org.nz/en/[…]ng-fund-donations |
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Brooke |
*sneeze* |
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Brooke |
Terrible sneeze, I should really have that checked. |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins |
Anyone else have problems applying the patch for bug 5116 when upgrading? |
| 18:11 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5116 minor, P5, ---, ricmarques, NEW, Duplicate and missing entries in "apt-get-debian-lenny.sh" |
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jcamins |
Or possibly the second patch for updating the VOKAL icon set. |
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jcamins |
I got a "cannot convert from UTF-8utf-8 to UTF-8" error. |
| 18:15 |
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jcamins |
It appears to be unique to Koha. |
| 18:15 |
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jcamins |
(according to Google) |
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sekjal is now known as sekjal_a |
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nengard |
got a question - how do i checkout a branch from git - i want just the 3.2 branch not head |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins |
Well, I won't be solving it in the next 10 minutes before I have to leave, so I'll ask again later. chris will know the answer. |
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owen |
nengard: That's in the wiki |
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owen |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Cloning_over_HTTP |
| 18:17 |
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nengard |
i'm on the wiki i did a search but i might not be using the right syntax |
| 18:18 |
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owen |
"If you want to track the maintenance branch of an earlier version of Koha..." |
| 18:18 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: the problem is probably with the email header |
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chris_n |
fwiw |
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jcamins |
chris_n: hm. I wonder why no one else has encountered this problem. |
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owen |
nengard: Although I guess that gets you 3.2.x, not official 3.2 |
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nengard |
but i can figure that part out :) |
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jcamins |
You can also check out by tag. |
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chris |
jcamins: ive encountered it |
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chris |
there are 2 lines in the email header, setting content type |
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jcamins |
But with the same patch? |
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* owen |
was just about to google checking out by tag |
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chris |
jcamins: its usually on a signed off patch |
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chris |
i just edit the patch, and remove one of the lines |
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chris |
and its all happy |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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nengard |
git branch -r origin/3.2.x |
| 18:20 |
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nengard |
that look right? |
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chris |
nengard: that makes a branch |
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jcamins |
What if you're in the middle of a rebase when this happens? |
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chris |
but doesnt check it out |
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nengard |
git checkout -b mywork origin/3.2.x ?? |
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chris |
git checkout -b my_3.2.x origin/3.2.x |
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nengard |
yup :) k - thanks |
| 18:21 |
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owen |
And that gets her the 3.2.x development branch right? Not the official release |
| 18:21 |
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chris |
makes it and checks it out |
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chris |
yes owen |
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cait |
oh no, I missed new git tricks |
| 18:21 |
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cait |
hi chris :) |
| 18:21 |
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chris |
if you want the release, you need to check out the tag |
| 18:21 |
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owen |
What about: git checkout v3.02.01 |
| 18:21 |
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chris |
owen that will work, but you wont be on a local branch |
| 18:22 |
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chris |
which is totally fine |
| 18:22 |
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chris |
unless you want to make changes and change to another branch |
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jcamins |
Okay, I have to run, but I'll be back to pick chris's brain on how to solve this problem tomorrow. Thanks for the help! |
| 18:22 |
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jcamins is now known as jcamins_a |
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nengard |
wow - so the calendar did change in 3.2 - it's purty :) |
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nengard |
thought it was something in head |
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nengard |
need to get new screenshots |
| 18:23 |
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owen |
In 3.2.1 I think nengard |
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nengard |
cool |
| 18:23 |
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nengard |
that's fine |
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nengard |
just so it's not a dev branch |
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nengard |
3.2 manual will be for 3.2.x |
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nengard |
and 3.4 manual will be dev branch |
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nengard |
or head |
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chris |
jcamins_a: ping me when you are back, there are a few ways to deal with it |
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nengard |
k - screencast time - will log back in when done - can't have chats popping up in my video |
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| 18:29 |
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chris |
test? |
| 18:29 |
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* ibot |
does a testing dance |
| 18:29 |
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chris |
nice day? |
| 18:29 |
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ibot |
you betcha chris |
| 18:29 |
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chris |
cool |
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Brooke |
heheh |
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* Brooke |
is actually a chat bot. |
| 18:30 |
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chris |
by my calculations we have 13.5 hours until meeting? |
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chris_n |
jcamins: how are you retrieving the patch? |
| 18:30 |
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chris |
who can i lean on to send out a reminder email? |
| 18:31 |
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jwagner |
chris, what meeting? |
| 18:31 |
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chris |
oh, whoops its a whole week away |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
what meeting? |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
lol |
| 18:31 |
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cait |
don't scare us! |
| 18:31 |
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* chris_n |
hands chris strong coffee |
| 18:32 |
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jwagner |
chris just wants us (US east coast anyway) to get up VERY early tomorrow morning for no reason.... |
| 18:32 |
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chris |
chris_n: usually when i run into this its a patch thats been signed off, and the persons mailer has added another content type line |
| 18:32 |
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chris_n |
yup |
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chris |
chris_n: but it sounds like jcamins is in the middle of a rebase |
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chris_n |
that's my experience as well |
| 18:32 |
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* Brooke |
trudges slowly towards the door on the way to the executioner, er family event... |
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druthb |
lol |
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chris_n |
I've also had that happen as well |
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chris |
you can edit the file then too |
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chris |
all the commits get made into files under .git/rebase-apply |
| 18:34 |
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* chris_n |
learns yet another new thing |
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chris |
or if you are doing rebase -i |
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chris |
git? |
| 18:35 |
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ibot |
git is, like, found at http://git.koha-community.org |
| 18:36 |
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chris |
git also freaking rules |
| 18:36 |
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chris |
git? |
| 18:36 |
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ibot |
git is found at http://git.koha-community.org |
| 18:37 |
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chris |
git |
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chris |
git? |
| 18:37 |
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ibot |
freaking rules |
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chris |
git? |
| 18:38 |
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ibot |
freaking rules |
| 18:38 |
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chris |
git? |
| 18:38 |
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ibot |
freaking rules |
| 18:38 |
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chris |
git? |
| 18:38 |
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ibot |
git is found at http://git.koha-community.org |
| 18:38 |
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* chris |
figures out how to make ibot do semi random replies |
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chris |
chris? |
| 18:38 |
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ibot |
you are probably the friendliest of all of us |
| 18:38 |
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chris |
forget chris |
| 18:38 |
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ibot |
chris: I forgot chris |
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| 18:39 |
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chris |
chris is some guy|awake to early|craving coffee |
| 18:39 |
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cait |
chris - don't make ibot forget about you all the time! |
| 18:39 |
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chris |
chris? |
| 18:39 |
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ibot |
you are awake to early |
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chris |
chris? |
| 18:39 |
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ibot |
hmmm... chris is craving coffee |
| 18:39 |
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chris |
like that :) |
| 18:39 |
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cait |
okok |
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chris |
right time to start heading out to the bus |
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magnus_a is now known as magnus |
| 18:43 |
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magnus |
hm, it hought the next meeting was in 2 weeks time? |
| 18:43 |
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magnus |
December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0? |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
8th of december? |
| 18:44 |
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magnus |
yeah, meant 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
it's in the topi |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
c |
| 18:44 |
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owen |
The next general meeting is on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
| 18:44 |
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owen |
The next general meeting? |
| 18:44 |
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ibot |
the next general meeting is on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
meeting is on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
meeting? |
| 18:45 |
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ibot |
meeting is probably on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
| 18:48 |
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cait |
makes it easier to remember the keyword :) |
| 18:51 |
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druthb |
ibot: cait? |
| 18:51 |
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ibot |
hmmm... cait is really sweet. |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
aw |
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druthb |
:D |
| 18:52 |
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* cait |
give ibot a hug |
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jwagner is now known as jwag_mtg |
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cait |
nengard? |
| 18:56 |
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ibot |
i guess nengard is like a good speech: short, and sweet. |
| 18:58 |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder 20817 |
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munin |
druthb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 19.3�C (1:59 PM EST on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 18:59 |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.7�C (7:55 PM CET on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). |
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* druthb |
hands cait an extra cloak. |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
yeah, getting colder and colder now |
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cait |
it's supposed to snow tonight |
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* chris |
waits for the 8am update its gotta be 13 at least and now no clouds |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0�C (7:50 PM CET on November 23, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -10.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:02 |
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* druthb |
shivers. |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on November 24, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
I was close |
| 19:12 |
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magnus |
yay! |
| 19:13 |
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trea |
heh |
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jwag_mtg is now known as jwagner |
| 19:23 |
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nengard |
how do i ask ibot about me? |
| 19:23 |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: nengard? |
| 19:23 |
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ibot |
i heard nengard was like a good speech: short, and sweet. |
| 19:23 |
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nengard |
hmmm yeah -- that was most certainly druthb |
| 19:23 |
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wizzyrea |
ibot: wizzyrea? |
| 19:23 |
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ibot |
i heard wizzyrea was a ray of sunshine. |
| 19:23 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm. yea, def. |
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nengard |
aww :) |
| 19:24 |
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nengard |
and how do we teach ibot those things? |
| 19:24 |
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owen |
nengard has a blog at http://www.web2learning.net/ |
| 19:24 |
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owen |
nengard? |
| 19:24 |
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ibot |
nengard is like a good speech: short, and sweet. |
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| 19:24 |
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owen |
nengard? |
| 19:24 |
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ibot |
nengard is like a good speech: short, and sweet. |
| 19:24 |
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owen |
nengard? |
| 19:24 |
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ibot |
well, nengard is like a good speech: short, and sweet. |
| 19:24 |
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* druthb |
stands mute, and a plea of Not Guilty was entered by the court. |
| 19:24 |
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owen |
Oh, I guess ibot needs the "is" |
| 19:24 |
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nengard |
nengard is a blogger at http://web2learning.net |
| 19:24 |
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nengard |
nengard? |
| 19:24 |
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ibot |
you are like a good speech: short, and sweet. |
| 19:24 |
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nengard |
nope |
| 19:24 |
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wizzyrea |
nengard? |
| 19:24 |
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ibot |
nengard is, like, like a good speech: short, and sweet |
| 19:25 |
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chris |
nengard is also a blogger |
| 19:25 |
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ibot |
okay, chris. |
| 19:25 |
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chris |
Nengard? |
| 19:25 |
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ibot |
i think Nengard is like a good speech: short, and sweet. or a blogger |
| 19:25 |
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nengard |
oh cool :) hehe |
| 19:25 |
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owen |
By the way nengard, I like your new blog template |
| 19:25 |
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nengard |
thanks owen |
| 19:25 |
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nengard |
took me forever to fnd it |
| 19:25 |
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nengard |
find |
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wizzyrea |
hrmnengard |
| 19:26 |
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wizzyrea |
nengard? |
| 19:26 |
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ibot |
somebody said nengard was a blogger at http://www.web2learning.net/ |
| 19:26 |
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wizzyrea |
nengard? |
| 19:26 |
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ibot |
nengard is probably a blogger at http://www.web2learning.net/ |
| 19:26 |
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wizzyrea |
nengard? |
| 19:26 |
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ibot |
it has been said that nengard is like a good speech, short and sweet |
| 19:26 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
| 19:26 |
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wizzyrea |
I win |
| 19:26 |
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wizzyrea |
so what I did was |
| 19:27 |
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wizzyrea |
forgot her (forget nengard) |
| 19:27 |
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wizzyrea |
then nengard is like a good speech, short and sweet | a blogger at http://www.web2learning.net/ |
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wizzyrea |
and that adds 2 things that she is |
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cait |
we need --ammend for ibot :) |
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wizzyrea |
yes, that |
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richard |
hi |
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wizzyrea |
hi richard :) |
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magnus |
hm, at some point in back in time i went and created my XSLT files for the OPAC with nothing but norwegian text in them. Should they have been in english? i guess no-one else than norwegians will be interested in them. and they echo a lot of text from the NORMARC standard... |
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magnus |
s/XSLT/NORMARC XSLT/ |
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gmcharlt |
magnus: that depends; ideally they'd have been in English with a translation to Norwegian, but if they display standard is signficantly different, making the localization mechanism be able to slot in replacement XSLTs could be handy |
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gmcharlt |
of course, the trade-off would be more work to maintain those no-NO XSLTs |
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magnus |
it's not very different from marc21 |
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magnus |
some of the coded fields in 00x have different meanings |
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chris |
http://www.lib.umich.edu/open-[…]iographic-records |
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chris |
some good data for testing |
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magnus |
lots of fields in marc21 are not in normarc |
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magnus |
a few fields in normarc are not in marc21 |
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magnus |
chris: in case you havn't seen it, open library has a lot of bib.records from different sources on archive.org: http://www.archive.org/details/ol_data |
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chris |
yup |
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cait |
chris: https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/doku.ph[…]:openaccess:start |
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chris |
someone should make a page on our wiki linking to all of these :) |
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chris |
thats very cool cait |
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cait |
both very big libraries |
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magnus |
hm good name for the page? "free marc records"? |
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chris |
that'd work |
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wizzyrea |
sources of sample marc data? |
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cait |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
(free) sample marc data |
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cait |
ours include authorities too |
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magnus |
i'm on it |
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chris |
magnus++ |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7727401/ |
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magnus |
it's a start: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_sample_MARC_data |
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chris |
yay! |
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* druthb |
leaps up to go catch the bus. |
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cait |
magnus++ |
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wizzyrea |
magnus++ |
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magnus |
ooh, thanks guys! |
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cait |
magnus? |
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ibot |
it has been said that magnus is an awesome fellow. |
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magnus |
woohoo! |
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magnus |
probably not very often, but anyway... |
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sekjal_a is now known as sekjal |
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wizzyrea |
modest too |
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magnus |
hiya sekjal |
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gmcharlt |
RDA? |
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cait |
hi sekjal:) |
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sekjal |
hi, magnus, cait! |
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gmcharlt |
RDA is a room in a twisty maze of standards |
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gmcharlt |
RDA? |
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ibot |
it has been said that RDA is a room in a twisty maze of standards |
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gmcharlt |
ibot++ |
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LBA is now known as LBA-away |
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* magnus |
needs a reboot |
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wizzyrea |
magnus is in need of a reboot |
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wizzyrea |
magnus? |
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ibot |
magnus is an awesome fellow. |
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wizzyrea |
hmm, interesting question: is there a way to find out how many patrons are logging into the OPAC to use features? |
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chris |
how many login ? |
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chris |
you could tell that from the apache logs |
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chris |
and/or the sessions table |
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chris |
(but you probably purge the sessions table) |
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wizzyrea |
and actually, analytics could give you nice non-specific, non-patron tied user data |
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chris |
you can put analytics into the opac using the js syspref |
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magnus |
could that be seen as an invasion of privacy? |
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wizzyrea |
right, just when you said that the lightbulb went on that that's what we do here. |
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cait |
same thought here |
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wizzyrea |
simply gathering visit data? |
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owen |
If anyone sees Google Analytics as an invasion of privacy they've got bigger problems than the library |
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wizzyrea |
I can see it would be if you were able to say "jane doe logged in at 8:52pm and looked at her account details and renewed a book) |
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owen |
And I know some do |
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magnus |
well, if you use google analytics you are letting google track what pages in the opac they are viewing etc |
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magnus |
i remember thinking "why isn't there a syspref for google analytics?" when i was new to koha... ;-) |
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gmcharlt |
magnus: it's the InviteTheFBI syspref, naturally |
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wizzyrea |
magnus: not to be trite, but that's pretty much the same info (and more) that they give willingly to facebook |
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cait |
wizzyrea: not everybody has a facebook account |
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wizzyrea |
s/facebook/almost every website |
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wizzyrea |
simply by virtue of surfing |
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magnus |
wizzyrea: sure, and i'm not too paranoid myself, but i'm not sure i would want to let google "look over the shoulder" of patrons... |
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cait |
the problem is that those data is linked together by google, it's a whole profile, not single site visits |
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wizzyrea |
so you would be ok with a private webstat engine? |
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magnus |
and lots of people put info into librarything that is similar to what libraries would like to keep - but at least in norway there is a law that says all info about a loan must be deleted on return... |
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cait |
privacy issues are taken very seriously around here - some libraries even refuse to use google books - because it asks google every time |
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chris |
yep, thats why its not on by default and is a per library choice |
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chris |
if they want to enable it, they enter some js in |
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cait |
only to explain it :) |
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nengard |
what goes in the expirationdate in the reserves table - is this where the date goes that the patron can enter - or is this when their hold was canceled? |
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chris |
the latter |
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chris |
actually hang on |
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chris |
lemme check |
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cait |
no |
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wizzyrea |
hm, I wonder if that goes afoul of data collection laws though (not here, but in other more privacy less insane countries) |
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cait |
nengard: is there a cancellation date too? |
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nengard |
cancellationdate |
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nengard |
yes |
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cait |
yeah, thats the latter |
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cait |
I think it's the date you will take the book out of the shelf |
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wizzyrea |
expiration date is when a filled hold expires off of the hold shelf, I think |
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cait |
for the next user |
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cait |
what liz says |
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wizzyrea |
I was going to say "what cait said" |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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cait |
hehe |
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nengard |
so if it's the date i will take it off the shelf then what field is the one where the patron says i don't need this after such and such date |
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cait |
do we have an option for that in the opac? |
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wizzyrea |
^^ I don't recall that feature |
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wizzyrea |
< doesn't know everything though (by a long shot) |
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cait |
there is the hold date in future thing |
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chris |
yeah |
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cait |
but that's something else |
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wizzyrea |
but that's ^^ what she said |
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chris |
im not sure you can set a i dont wnat it after this date |
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nengard |
there are two dates - a hold date in future and a 'not needed after' date |
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nengard |
both can be turned on using sys prefs |
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nengard |
trust the author of the manual :) |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
what is the syspref for the later? |
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cait |
you could add a date like ..01/01/1111 and look where it ends up |
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nengard |
in the interface it says 'hold expires on' |
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nengard |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x6800#AEN6803 |
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nengard |
http://koha-community.org/wp-c[…]aceholdsingle.png |
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nengard |
it's not a preference i was wrong on that count |
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chris |
and i dont think you can do it in the opac |
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nengard |
hmm |
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nengard |
k - but still - where in the database does that date go? |
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nengard |
I think it goes in expireddate |
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nengard |
or expirationdate |
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wizzyrea |
put one in and see |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait |
nengard: I wondered about the notes some time ago |
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cait |
not sure it's really shown somewhere |
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nengard |
chris it's in the opac - it says 'Hold Not Needed After' |
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nengard |
copied from my opac :) |
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wizzyrea |
it's not allowhold date in future? |
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cait |
ah, it shows the notes in the holds list |
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nengard |
testing now |
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cait |
wizzyrea: does not look like it |
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nengard |
no hold date in future means don't start my hold til this date |
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nengard |
but this is different |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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wizzyrea |
i'm looking here too |
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nengard |
yup - expirationdate is populated by the 'not needed after' dates |
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cait |
nengard: you are right |
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chris |
yeah but nothing checks it |
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wizzyrea |
so is there an expirationdate and an expiredate? |
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cait |
perhaps waitingdate is uses for calculation of the date we were talking about? |
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chris |
so unless you are running something to clean out expired ones |
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wizzyrea |
that must be |
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nengard |
so we have waitingdate notificationdate cancellationdate (not expireddate - that was a typo) |
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chris |
they wont actually expire |
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nengard |
chris there is a cron for that |
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nengard |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]h=a13002#AEN13084 |
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nengard |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
ah well there you go |
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nengard |
this by the way is why i can't remember where my shoes are - cause my head is full of koha manual |
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chris |
you shoulda just looked at that file then |
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cait |
nengard: I can understand that |
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cait |
started to write a syspref manual for my coworkers today |
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nengard |
what i'm asking i guess is is there a field where the date goes that an item needs to be pulled from the shelf |
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cait |
it's crazy what is hiding in my head |
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wizzyrea |
it must compute that from the waiting date |
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cait |
I thin harley has features for that |
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wizzyrea |
you mean the hold shelf |
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nengard |
yes hold shelf |
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nengard |
and you're right it must calculate it |
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nengard |
which means it's not stored in the db |
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nengard |
which means i can't run the report i want to run |
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wizzyrea |
harley does a thing re: move into the queue at the following date |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]arley_Integration : 3474 |
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cait |
bug 1532 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1532 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Port dev_week holds enhancements to 3.0 |
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magnus |
good night folks! |
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cait |
night magnus |
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chris |
hmm this mine story is not going to have a happy ending :( |
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cait |
:( |
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chris |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]ll-breaks-through |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
oh, that's gonna be ugly |
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chris |
*nod* |
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wizzyrea |
…only in 2010: AP |
| 21:47 |
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wizzyrea |
The Queen posted a message of congratulations on Twitter. |
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cait |
good night |
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