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Kohan00b |
Hello everyone. |
| 01:17 |
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Kohan00b |
Using Koha 3.0 on Debian, I've migrated MARC records from Follett Circ+ to Koha. I've used MarcEdit to change 852 field to 952 field but I'm still getting "No physical itmes for this record" |
| 01:18 |
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Kohan00b |
The MARC record in Koha contains the item level information but it is not listing it in Holdings. . . not sure why |
| 01:22 |
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wasabi |
Kohan00b: your mapping are prolly incorrect |
| 01:23 |
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wasabi |
create a test bib, create an item for it. |
| 01:24 |
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wasabi |
look at the 952 block in biblioitems.marcxml and item record, an compare it to your imported ones. |
| 01:26 |
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wasabi |
well, theres actually a bunch of issues that can cause your import to fail... |
| 01:27 |
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wasabi |
but the 1st place to look is incorrect/partical $952 info in your source bibs |
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Thanks wasabi, will try that |
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morning #koha |
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chris |
evening |
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magnus |
g'day |
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smustafa |
good day all, |
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smustafa |
Using GIT of koha for the first time, and I need to know if I want to always be up to date...do I use the [origin/master] or [3.0.x] branch |
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smustafa |
I am confused....the branch seems at 3.0.1 at the moment, while the 3.0x is at 3.0.6.. |
| 09:32 |
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smustafa |
I can't clone the main and the branch because I will get very confused and not know what to do...so one main repository is better...*New to git* |
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smustafa |
Assuming I go for the 3.0.x branch..and remotly track that....What happens in the future when the HEAD becomes 3.2?? Does this 3.0.x branch disappear? and will I get disconnected and have to connect again to the HEAD and lose everything.. |
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smustafa |
I hope I am making some sort of sense :) *** Awaitng response....* |
| 10:09 |
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magnus |
smustafa: i'm no git expert, but i do know that all the branches are in the one repository |
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magnus |
you can view them with "git branch -a" |
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magnus |
http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]s/git-branch.html |
| 10:10 |
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smustafa |
yes I do know that. But when I start working....what branch should I be working on?? |
| 10:11 |
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magnus |
and "check one out" with "git checkout name-of-branch" |
| 10:11 |
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magnus |
http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]git-checkout.html |
| 10:11 |
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smustafa |
The reason I ask, is I made a branch that tracks the origion/master branch. |
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smustafa |
Then I thought oh oh....I don't think I am getting the 3.0.6 changes, since the master is at 3.0.1 :) |
| 10:11 |
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magnus |
that sounds good to me |
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smustafa |
so I think the master/origin is behind.. |
| 10:12 |
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kf |
smustafa: I understand what you mean, but I don't know how it works :( |
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chris |
master is at 3.1.x |
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chris |
not 3.0.1 |
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chris |
its certainly not behind 3.0.x |
| 10:13 |
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smustafa |
Chris, I get the following message |
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smustafa |
on the web installer |
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smustafa |
We are upgrading from Koha 3.00.00.107 to 3.01.00.145, you must update your database |
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chris |
yes |
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smustafa |
That is why I said 3.0.1 :) |
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smustafa |
and this is the clone of origin/master |
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chris |
see the dots there |
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chris |
3.01.00.145 |
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chris |
not 3.0.1 |
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smustafa |
oh I see...hmmm sorry. My fault! |
| 10:14 |
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smustafa |
now I understand. The master/origin is good to go on |
| 10:14 |
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chris |
if you want to upgrade to what will soon be 3.2 then yes |
| 10:14 |
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smustafa |
Now on to my next question. I did a fresh install using the [dev] setup. However now if I want to make changes lets say to any of the code...do I do it on the location of the git repostory clone, or go directly to /usr/share/koha |
| 10:14 |
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smustafa |
and change there?? |
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chris |
change it in your git clone |
| 10:17 |
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smustafa |
how do the changes apply on the site? I need to run perl MakeFile, then make, then test, then install again? after every change?? |
| 10:17 |
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smustafa |
Because it seems it copies all the important files to /usr/share/koha after every make install.... |
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smustafa |
*sorry for my stupid questions....I was doing it all wrong for 1 year*.... |
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chris |
no it doesnt |
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chris |
not if you choose a dev install |
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smustafa |
I did do a [dev] install.. |
| 10:18 |
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chris |
then its running the code from out of your clone |
| 10:18 |
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chris |
you can check that by looking at the koha-httpd.conf |
| 10:18 |
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smustafa |
what about that code in /usr/share/?? |
| 10:19 |
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chris |
thats just the config, and zebra files |
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smustafa |
ok dear, I shall try |
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smustafa |
Thank you |
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zer0c00l |
I am new to koha. I installed koha on windows following http://www.koha.rwjr.com/ . After adding couple of books through "Add biblio" link. I tired to search it. But the search is not showing added books. how to resolve? |
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zer0c00l |
What is Marc tags ? Do i need to configure them and link them to database before adding books to koha? |
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zer0c00l |
any one out there? |
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jwagner |
Morning, all |
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hdl |
hi jwagner |
| 11:43 |
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zer0c00l |
Hi jwagner |
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zer0c00l |
hdl, jwagner Do i need to configure koha after successfully installing it? |
| 11:44 |
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zer0c00l |
I just tried to add some records through http://intranet , but can't search them |
| 11:47 |
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kf |
hi hdl and jwagner |
| 11:49 |
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kf |
zer0c00l: check the faq http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#16 |
| 11:51 |
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kf |
if you have installed koha with zebra you need set up rebuild_zebra as cronjob for indexing |
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zer0c00l |
kf: Thank you. No i am not using zebra. |
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zer0c00l |
kf: Just trying it on windows (koha 2.2.9 ) for my school |
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kf |
2.2.9 is very old |
| 11:53 |
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kf |
you will miss a lot of features and there can be bugs too |
| 11:53 |
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kf |
I would recommend testing the current stable or development version on linux |
| 11:53 |
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zer0c00l |
kf: ok, I have downloaded some koha live cd (ubuntu 10.04) will consider using it |
| 11:55 |
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kf |
you can use virtual box - I have my development installation on windows with virtual box. i |
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zer0c00l |
kf :-) . Yeah i am going to test it with virtual box. I run fedora :-) |
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kf |
I have a meeting now, will be back later |
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zer0c00l |
kf: ok. bye , later |
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owen-away is now known as owen |
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zer0c00l |
quit |
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owen |
Computer: End program. |
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* chris_n |
hands owen a cup of coffee |
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owen |
Thanks chris_n. You know how it is, sometimes you have to make sure you're not living inside a Holodeck program concocted by the holographic projection of Professor Moriarty. |
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chris_n |
yup... or making sure you still have control of HAL |
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owen |
Barking ineffective commands to the computer to end the current simulation confirms (I hope) that I'm not in a simulation. Randomly asking HAL to open doors for me will only make me worry when the doors don't open. |
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cait_mtg |
magnus, still around? |
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magnus |
cait_mtg: yup |
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* owen |
has really got to stop asking his 3.0.x repo to "rebase origin." The poor thing. |
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kf |
hm confusing my identities. no good sign |
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kf |
magnus: have you booked your hotel for wellington yet? |
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magnus |
yup, or rather b&b: http://www.booklovers.co.nz/ |
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magnus |
(tip from chris) |
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kf |
ah ok |
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magnus |
think there was one spare room (with separate, private bathroom (not ensuite)) when i booked |
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kf |
Home made chocolate chip cookies |
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magnus |
say no more... ;-) |
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* jwagner |
perks up ears -- cooookkkkkkiiiiiieeeeeessssss? |
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kf |
jwagner: is your pile of cookies already history? |
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hdl |
hi all |
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jwagner |
kf, there's a few left. This is because druthb was out of the office for most of yesterday.... |
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kf |
hi hdl |
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kf |
jwagner: cookies... *sighs* |
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owen |
Don't blame druthb, jwagner, I would have eaten them if I was there! |
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* jwagner |
sends owen and kf cookies |
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kf |
yay :) |
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druthb |
*perks at the mention of her name |
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* druthb |
has already had a cookie this morning. |
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kf |
hi druthb |
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kf |
:) |
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briceSanc |
hi all |
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jcamins |
Good morning. |
| 13:18 |
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jcamins |
I see someone is trying to install Koha on FreeBSD. |
| 13:21 |
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* owen |
is trying to resist the urge to reply with a rant about the term "community edition" |
| 13:22 |
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jcamins |
owen: at least the e-mail didn't start out with "I installed the latest version of Koha, Koha Harley," right? |
| 13:22 |
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jcamins |
Because that would just be confusing. |
| 13:22 |
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owen |
True |
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jcamins |
I will leave the ranting to you either way. |
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brendan |
Heh |
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owen |
That would have definitely provoked a rant |
| 13:23 |
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jcamins |
In fact, it looks like I will leave the replying to someone else. Grrr. |
| 13:27 |
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kf |
jcamins: need cookie? |
| 13:27 |
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jcamins |
It took four minutes, but I successfully managed to coax a "compose e-mail" window out of Thunderbird. |
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jcamins |
kf: if you have a spare cookie, I would not say no. Especially since I never got around to baking yesterday. We had to leave the windows open because our apartment smelled of paint, so it would've been a bit warm. |
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* kf |
sends jcamins a cookie |
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jcamins |
owen: ... Koha 3.2 beta (note that what you are calling "Community edition" is actually "Koha") ... |
| 13:33 |
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jcamins |
any corrections? |
| 13:36 |
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owen |
jcamins: chris_n beat you to the rant |
| 13:37 |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
| 13:38 |
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* jcamins |
bangs side of computer # stupid e-mail! |
| 13:38 |
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jcamins |
There it is. |
| 13:40 |
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jcamins |
Is there some way to make preformatted lines in mediawiki wrap politely? |
| 13:41 |
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kf |
owen++ #translation bug fixing |
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owen |
kf: I'm amazed that some of these bugs haven't gotten reported ealrier |
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owen |
People really put up with a lot of rough edges |
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jcamins |
owen: ::cough:: Voyager ::cough:: Aleph ::cough:: |
| 13:43 |
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kf |
owen: yep, they do. And I often enough work with english templates :( |
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kf |
have to force myself to use German templates and fix all those small things |
| 13:45 |
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kf |
one really rough edge is fines |
| 13:45 |
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kf |
the fines tab in opac and staff |
| 13:45 |
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kf |
no way to translate the entries there |
| 13:45 |
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owen |
I think that's Bug 2188 |
| 13:45 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2188 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED, Accounts.pm outputs untranslatable English strings |
| 13:45 |
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kf |
I think I will use jWuery to fix that (once I find time to write the code) |
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kf |
Query |
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kf |
owen: yep, an old and ugly bug |
| 13:46 |
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owen |
or jKwery for those without a Q in their alphabet? |
| 13:47 |
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kf |
hmpf. |
| 13:47 |
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kf |
:) |
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jwagner |
owen, do you know if there's a site somewhere that lists what fonts most browsers will recognize/use? I have an odd font request that Firefox isn't recognizing (Edwardian Script). I can get it to recognize other fonts, though. |
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owen |
Browsers will recognize any font which is installed on the user's machine. |
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jwagner |
So the trick is to find something that's within a common e.g. Windows install? |
| 14:04 |
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owen |
Yes, and those choices are very limited |
| 14:04 |
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jwagner |
OK, thanks. |
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owen |
http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesi[…]dowsMacFonts.html |
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owen |
http://web.mit.edu/jmorzins/www/fonts.html |
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jwagner |
Very useful pages -- thanks! |
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hdl |
owen: jwagner beware, those fonts may not support Unicode very well. |
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briceSanc |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5038 NEW Comment |
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munin |
Bug 5038: enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Checkout by hour |
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owen |
No apparent error is displayed when running rebuild_zebra.pl, but I'm getting no results from my searches |
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owen |
Can anyone suggest where to look next? |
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kf |
zebrasrv running? |
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jcamins |
permissions error? |
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sekjal |
owen: full reindex, or from zebraqueue? |
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owen |
jcamins: I'm assuming a permissions error would be displayed onscreen when running rebuild_zebra.pl? |
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jcamins |
owen: I don't think so. |
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jcamins |
Well, I guess it depends where the permissions are wrong. |
| 15:01 |
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owen |
I've changed the user/group for koha-dev/var/lib/zebradb and koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb |
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owen |
I'm running rebuild_zebra.pl as the koha user |
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jcamins |
Hm, that was what we did wrong (wrong group). |
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owen |
Oh wait, I didn't see this before: "Could not select database biblios errCode=109" |
| 15:06 |
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owen |
Oh, never mind, I was trying again but forgot to switch users |
| 15:09 |
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owen |
Still no luck |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Did it used to work? |
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jcamins |
*use |
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owen |
This is a new install of 3.0.x |
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owen |
"zebraidx(32023) [log] Records: 2344 i/u/d 2344/0/0" |
| 15:11 |
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owen |
Doesn't that mean 2344 records inserted? |
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owen |
If I ever did an install where zebra worked right the first time I'd probably die of shock. |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure. You have exceeded my knowledge of Zebra. |
| 15:15 |
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wasabi |
owen: pastebin your rebuild output, ill take a look... |
| 15:15 |
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wasabi |
http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
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pastebot |
"owen" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Zebra reindex output from fresh 3.0.x installation" (66 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/35 |
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wasabi |
looks correct ;) |
| 15:19 |
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jcamins |
Maybe zebrasrv isn't running properly? |
| 15:19 |
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wasabi |
so yr searching problems are to do with zebrasrv.... |
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wasabi |
killall zebrasrv; zebrasrv -f /path/to/koha-conf.xml |
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wasabi |
yeah, restart zebrasrv - outputing to the screen |
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wasabi |
and watch the debug, while searching... |
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owen |
that was it, zebraserv hadn't started properly |
| 15:25 |
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owen |
wasabi++ |
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owen |
jcamins++ |
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owen |
Thanks for your help |
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owen |
I'll be back to ask the same questions the next time I do a Koha install ;) |
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wasabi |
owen, i chortled reading your recent email |
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owen |
? |
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wasabi |
the 'community-edition' email |
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owen |
Today? It wasn't mine. I was only threatening to send one :) |
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jcamins |
owen: isn't it great how you automatically get credit? |
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wasabi |
ahh, twas chris.n .. |
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* kf |
feels a bit ignored ;) |
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wasabi |
yours was *next* email in my koha-inbox |
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wasabi |
wasabi pays full-attention to kf... |
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jcamins |
kf++ # because she figured out the zebrasrv problem before anyone else |
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:) |
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owen |
Sorry kf! |
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owen |
kf++ |
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jcamins |
@karma kf |
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munin |
jcamins: Karma for "kf" has been increased 22 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 22. |
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kf |
now I feel silly... :) |
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jcamins |
@karma jcamins |
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munin |
jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6. |
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jcamins |
Ooh! I have a karma of 6! Watch out, kf, I'm catching up! Slowly. |
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kf |
jcamins++ :) |
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kf |
for cookieeees |
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druthb |
@karma druthb |
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druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 36 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 36. |
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druthb |
@karma jwagner |
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druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 40 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 40. |
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kf |
@karma cait |
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munin |
kf: Karma for "cait" has been increased 16 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 16. |
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kf |
late :( bye all! |
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owen |
Hi pianohack, what's up? |
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pianohack |
Hey owen |
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pianohack |
not much |
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owen |
You working on Koha stuff these days? |
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pianohack |
Some, yes :) Trying to finish up at the library, which will involve sending in as much custom code as possible |
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pianohack |
you? |
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owen |
When I can get away with it. |
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* owen |
is getting away with it today |
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pianohack |
owen: Anything interesting? |
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owen |
Just going through my bug list |
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owen |
Including bugs like Bug 5006 which I don't even remember filing just two weeks ago |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5006 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Invalid XHTML in record matching rules template |
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* owen |
will shop for a memory expansion kit during lunch |
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nengard |
hehe |
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owen |
Can anyone explain to me the different between a match point and a match check? |
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owen |
different->difference |
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cait |
staged marc import? |
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owen |
Admin -> Record Matching Rules |
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cait |
vb is booting |
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owen |
Welcome back CGI627 |
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CGI627 |
I had learned how to reindex a few weeks ago but I can't seem to get it to work now. Thanks |
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owen |
What you were doing before isn't working, or you don't remember what you did before? |
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CGI627 |
i logged in as "koha" and then "kohaclone", scrolled down the directory to "migration_tools", and input "export PERL5LIB=/home/koha/kohaclone" then "export KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/et/koha-conf.xml" and lastly "perl rebuild_nozebra.pl" |
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owen |
just "perl rebuild_nozebra.pl," or with flags ("-b") ? |
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CGI627 |
Then an error message said "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 307" |
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CGI627 |
no flags |
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CGI627 |
I had done it w/o flags several weeks ago and it worked fine. |
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owen |
Are you sure your path to koha-conf.xml is correct? |
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CGI627 |
Not really. I'm just using what I used last time. |
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owen |
ls /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/ |
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owen |
(assuming when you typed "et" above you meant "etc") |
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CGI627 |
I just scrolled down the directory and I think you're right. let me check it |
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owen |
Any luck CGI627? |
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CGI627 |
yeah, I got the reindex to work |
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CGI627 |
thanks |
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CGI627 |
I'm playing with a few other issues so you might see me back here later |
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CGI627 |
take it easy, owen |
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owen |
What are the defaults of rebuild_zebra.pl if run without parameters? |
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jcamins |
It just displays the help, I think. I think you need to specify -b and/or -a. |
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jcamins |
I could be mistaken, though. |
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owen |
Oh yeah, it just says "Must specify -b or -a to reindex bibs or authorities" |
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owen |
why_not_just_try_it_for_yourself++ |
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@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 21.9�C (12:49 PM PDT on August 03, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
morning |
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sekjal |
morning chris |
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chris |
hiya sekjal :) |
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chris |
keeping busy? |
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sekjal |
but of course :) |
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sekjal |
analyzing some nicely done research from one of clients about the nature of (what appears to be) bug 3536 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3536 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Checked In item requiring transfer does not consistently trigger transfer prompt |
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chris |
ah yes, hlt have mentioned that too |
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sekjal |
they are getting the worst behaviour when checking out an item belonging to Library A at Library B, then returning it to Library A. |
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chris |
ahh |
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chris |
in that case it should wipe the transfer eh? since its back where it belongs? |
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sekjal |
what they're reporting is that it asks them to transfer to Library B, then when they checkin at Library B it asks to transfer to Library A, then it clears up |
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sekjal |
so, some sort of weird double swap |
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chris |
ah right |
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wizzyrea_ |
whoa, can't say I've seen that one vefore |
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sekjal |
it gets even more complicated when there holds involved |
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wizzyrea_ |
I am sure that will affect us |
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sekjal |
so much so I'm having trouble interpreting the report.... |
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wizzyrea_ |
:( |
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wizzyrea_ |
do you need help? |
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sekjal |
or maybe that's just the headcold slowing me down... |
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wizzyrea_ |
< has a massive number of holds |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea_: do you experience transfer weirdness often? |
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wizzyrea_ |
every day, more or less. |
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sekjal |
our client recorded the series of actions and the various states of data associated at each stage |
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sekjal |
step one: checkout Item A at Library B |
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sekjal |
list the home branch, holding branch, message, and current status |
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sekjal |
continue with checkins at various libraries, etc. |
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sekjal |
I guess the extension of that would be to record holds actions in the list, as well. |
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sekjal |
so, step 2: place hold, listing patron home branch, designated pickup branch, and title or item level |
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wizzyrea_ |
question, are they changing the pickup branch from the default? |
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wizzyrea_ |
(the logic supplied pickup branch) |
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wizzyrea_ |
(or is a human changing it) |
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sekjal |
not sure |
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sekjal |
report didn't go much into depth about holds |
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sekjal |
just branch transfers during normal checkout/checkin |
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wizzyrea_ |
aha |
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sekjal |
a full test would need to look at both cases (default supplied and human-set) |
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wizzyrea_ |
I wonder if 4373 is affecting you |
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wizzyrea_ |
bug 4373 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4373 major, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Placing and Processing Items Simultaneously causes multiple issues |
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wizzyrea_ |
how many branches? |
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sekjal |
2 |
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wizzyrea_ |
mmm probably not very likely |
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sekjal |
yeah, I'm gunning for that bug, too, when I get a chance |
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richard |
hi |
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sekjal |
cheers, #koha. I'm out |
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brendan |
was there a protocol for getting pages off the old wiki? I'm looking for http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ncodingscratchpad |
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brendan |
I guess I could use the waybackmachinge |
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brendan |
:) |
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chris |
its been done |
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chris |
but we need to kill it |
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chris |
and write it again |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]cter_Sets_in_Koha |
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wizzyrea_ |
doesn't gmcharlt have a backup of the wiki |
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chris |
because nengard pulled it over from the old wiki |
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brendan |
ah |
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brendan |
thanks |
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chris |
but since kados wrote it, we have no permission |
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chris |
im about to wipe that page |
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gmcharlt |
yes, although it's fairly old |
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chris |
so look at it quickly |
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chris |
:) |
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brendan |
got it in wayback - so wipe away |
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wizzyrea_ |
! it's gmcharlt! |
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gmcharlt |
but to be clear - content of uncertain copyright needs to be rewritten |
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gmcharlt |
(nad updated anyway |
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chris |
right its gone |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ha&action=history |
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pianohack |
Hi, fellow sysadmins |
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pianohack |
How do you manage the problem of shared access to passwords (server root passwords, etc.) |
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imp |
pianohack: sudo and no rootpassword |
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wizzyrea_ |
^^ |
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pianohack |
imp: Where possible, yes :) |
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jcamins_a |
pianohack: Likewise. |
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pianohack |
Still, the access passwords need to be somewhere, to avoid the bus problem :) |
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pianohack |
As in, "our sysadmin got hit by a bus, and he was the only one that had a sudo-capable login!" |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh. I keep mine in a file on a thumb drive in the fire safe |
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wizzyrea_ |
locked up |
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jcamins_a |
Oh, I thought you meant for multiple users who need to administer the server at once. |
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pianohack |
Nah. I do all of my server admin through a personal account with sudo rights |
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pianohack |
In my case, it's because I'm leaving this library and need to make sure everything's written down or saved somewhere :) |
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imp |
create a second account with the same privileges and hand that one over |
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wizzyrea_ |
^^ |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 31.2�C (5:14 PM CDT on August 03, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 28.94 in 979.9 hPa (Falling). |
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imp |
cryptofilesystems and such are the only problems i can imagine (the rest is rootable ;) |
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pianohack |
I trust that the people I'm handing these servers to would create a sudo account if given a root password, but no reason not to just do it for them :) |
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