IRC log for #koha, 2010-07-28

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00:06 munin brendan: The current temperature in Brandon/Evergreen, Goleta, California is 21.3�C (5:00 PM PDT on July 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
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00:31 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'origin/new/bug3756_reenable_local_sysprefs' of git:// <[…]79c8d1f1ca2e24085> / Bug 3756 Don't display as local AutoSelfCheckID syspref and others <[…]af401a7e2bf80f677>
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00:41 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5046 - fix the zebra authorities configuration <[…]cce54cae5609e3a7f>
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03:22 Amit hi chris
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07:23 magnus hiya kf & #koha
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07:27 kf morning magnus
07:52 chris evening
07:52 magnus good time of the day, chris
07:52 chris :)
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09:17 kf fredericd: around?
09:49 fredericd kf: hello
09:55 kf frederic: hi frederic
09:57 kf frederic: I wonder about the yes/no values in the sys prefs
09:57 kf I have a installation where I get no and yes values in the database
09:57 fredericd not good
09:58 fredericd I thing it can't occur anymore
09:58 fredericd you should update your systempreferences table
09:58 kf I have
09:58 kf but the pref file is the problem
09:58 kf I jsut have no idea why it is wrong
09:59 fredericd Do you have an example? I will compare with French .po file
09:59 kf the difference between this installation and my dev installation is standard vs. dev install and updated from 3.01.61 vs. much later install from head
10:00 kf it's "no" and "yes" instead of "" and "1" - the english file is always yes and no - why are the translated files different?
10:01 fredericd Could you give a specific .pref file and a systempreference?
10:02 kf mom
10:02 kf searching :)
10:04 kf I was testing hidelostitems in different installations
10:05 kf hm, ok. I checked the po files - sys pref po file is older than the rest. perhaps my coworker forgot to get a new file from pootle when he updated the server installation
10:07 fredericd kf: In your .po file, what do you have? 0 or no / 1 or yes?
10:07 fredericd You should have 0/1
10:20 kf fredericd: I use the same po files in my dev installtion . everything reight there
10:24 fredericd kf: There is just one test which matter. Switch your koha interface into German. Modify a boolean syspref and after that check that you haven't a yes/no in the DB.
10:25 kf fredericd: in my dev install its 0 or 1, all ok there, let me check again to be sure in our standard install
10:27 kf fredericd: I think the problem is different. In our standard install the translation of sys prefs has a major problem that does not occur in my dev install
10:28 kf fredericd: the text is not translated at all, and when I change something its yes or no in the database
10:28 fredericd On which version is you standard install?
10:28 kf fredericd: after talking to my coworker it seems that he was not able to use the translate script, so he did use another script or process
10:29 kf it's slightly older than dev, last update 2 weeks ago Koha Version:
10:29 fredericd so you have an explanation...
10:29 kf yes, but another problem
10:29 kf why does "perl translate install de-DE" work for me, but not in our standard install? there are a lot of error messages and wrong paths
10:30 kf
10:30 fredericd Are both of those Koha instances development installations?
10:31 kf no, the problem occurs in a standard installation
10:32 chris you exported KOHA_CONF ?
10:32 kf he send me part of the error message, see my paste
10:32 kf hi chris
10:32 chris it uses that to work out the paths to the template files
10:32 kf he did work out a patch, but a strange one
10:33 kf it...
10:33 chris you are sure KOHA_CONF was set before he ran the translate eh?
10:33 fredericd 'translate' script doesn't work with standard installation, only with devel install
10:33 kf I think he did something in the configuration so they are always set - but will go back and ask him - give me a min
10:34 kf hm
10:34 kf fredericd: did you test?
10:34 chris kf: he wrote it, so i'll believe him :)
10:35 chris you can do it with the instead of using translate in standard (the old way)
10:35 kf chris: I think thats what he did
10:35 kf but it does not work for system preferences
10:36 chris right
10:36 kf Im not sure what he did to translate the sys pref files - and it did not work.
10:36 kf ok, so perhaps we need to document that it will not work with a standard install :(
10:37 chris you could run it in the git repo, and copy it over
10:37 kf are there any advantages using a standard install?
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10:38 kf now we even have features that don't work with standard
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10:38 chris that needs to be fixed, 99% of ppl will run standard
10:38 chris ie, download the tarball and install from there
10:38 fredericd kf: It's not a feature for standart install. In a standart install, people will not execute this script
10:39 kf because they get the templates from the tarball - if they choose the big version
10:39 fredericd yes
10:39 kf but I think there are many reasons you might want to update your translations
10:39 fredericd so update your installation
10:39 kf I'm improving them all the time
10:40 fredericd kf: you're not a standart koha user. You have to run a devel installation
10:40 kf ok, at least I know now where the problem is
10:40 kf fredericd: what is a standard koha user?
10:40 fredericd good question...
10:40 kf our production systems are standard installations - because we thought that was the way to go
10:40 chris they dont update translations for a start :)
10:41 chris they install, and use
10:41 kf hmpf. :)
10:41 chris you are a developer
10:42 chris none of us in here are standard users
10:42 kf ok
10:42 chris soon, translations will be packaged
10:42 kf what do you think is the way to go? we talked about using the debian packages - is this for standard users too and git is the way to go for developers?
10:43 chris i use the packages
10:43 chris for production
10:43 fredericd my opinion is that as soon as you have to tweak anything in your koha instance, templates, perl file, translation, you need to run a devel instance
10:43 kf we will want to update translation in production systems - getting rid of all the typos
10:43 chris for our hosted users anyway
10:44 chris yup, you do the updates in testing kf, then roll them out to a staging environment (in a new package)
10:44 chris then if it passes
10:44 chris you upgrade the packages on your production machine
10:44 kf uh, I have no idea how to do that
10:44 kf testing - ok, but I have no idea about package management
10:45 chris you'll learn at the dev conference
10:45 chris its actually not very hard at all, because of the scripts lars and robin have written
10:45 kf but not sure we want to have our own packages -
10:45 chris eventually the translations will be their own package
10:46 kf just a possibility to update installations with po files from pootle
10:46 chris id still do that with packages
10:46 chris update the translations test, then installed the tested packages on all the machines
10:47 kf fredericd: thx for your help. sorry, that it took so long to figure out the problem.
10:48 fredericd chris: This packages stuff seems to be a good argument to come to koha conf...
10:48 kf chris: not sure I can learn all that during the dev conference - you say I am a developer, but I have still very little programming and linux knowledge.
10:48 kf my coworker does the server administation here. We talkes about some major changes for 3.2 - changing from standard install to the packages or a dev install
10:49 chris oh, im sure you can kf
10:49 chris you are a fast learner, and we have some good teachers coming along
10:49 chris fredericd: ... it is ... we plan some good git tips and tricks to, including automated builds
10:50 kf I would like to learn how to merge branches and solve conflicts
10:50 kf some levels below automated builds :)
10:50 chris oh, we can definitely cover that
10:55 kf hmpf. you are very optimistic
10:57 kf although I m sure I will learn a lot - but was thinking about more basic things :)
10:57 chris its really not that bad, it is a 100 times easier to see it in action and try it with someone looking over your shoulder than reading about it
11:00 kf hope you are right - I m really looking forward to the dev conf
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11:14 kf there is a wiki page about adding new languages -[…]ANET_staff_client
11:14 kf document the part about standard installs there?
11:16 chris sounds good
11:17 kf ok, found my wiki password - I think the 3.06 part works
11:18 chris needs another . tho :)
11:18 kf hm?
11:20 chris 3.0.6
11:21 kf ah
11:21 chris sorry pet peeve of mine
11:21 chris along with writing KOHA :)
11:21 kf no, I understand :)
11:27 nengard hey all - can anyone find an easy fix to bug 4961  (I'm still thinking optomistically
11:27 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4961 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Can't overlay catalog records
11:28 kf not sure it's easy to fix - but its a really bad bug for us. all our libraries are trained to overlay fast adds with z39.50 f
11:31 chris you could do a git log on the file
11:31 nengard is it big enough to say it's a blocker - i never know for sure what a blocker is
11:31 chris no its not a blocker
11:31 chris its critical tho
11:32 chris if you want to track it down do a git log on the files it calls, and see if you can find when it was changed, then you might be able to spot a likely culprit
11:32 nengard it's blocking us from being able to do what we need to do for our job - see that's how i see a blocker - and so that's why i never know if it's a blocker
11:32 kf I m with nengard
11:33 kf its something you need in cataloging - and there is no work around
11:33 nengard as for checking the file - which file? the z search or the cataloging file?
11:33 nengard kf - and it was there before
11:33 kf yep
11:33 kf is it obvious that it creates a new record? or do you find out later while searching?
11:36 kf ok, will go and try myelf :)
11:36 chris it could be major or critical
11:37 chris it is breaking a major function in koha
11:37 nengard kf it changes the header on the page from Editing to Adding
11:37 nengard it's not obvious unless you're looking at the top of the page
11:37 nengard until you're brought to the record that has no items ...
11:37 chris nengard: both
11:37 kf and they will not do that
11:38 nengard both? oh - both files... k - hang on fixing a problem I can fix :)
11:38 kf hm, workaround: add new records, move items, delete record
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11:40 chris ill look
11:41 chris hmm it works for me
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11:43 chris i just did one and it edited it not added a new one
11:43 chris from it works (doing the search there)
11:44 chris trying from the edit screen itself
11:44 nengard i'll try again - i'd love for it not to be a problem!!!!
11:44 chris so the workaround is do the z3950 search from the page
11:44 chris try that
11:44 chris and ill test from the edit page
11:44 kf testing too, waiting for my record to be indexed
11:46 nengard chris you are right!!!!!!! see this is why i need people to check my bugs
11:46 chris tried from editing
11:46 nengard i do test on more than one system usually - but probably didn't in this case
11:46 chris works there too
11:46 kf hm I started with a fast add
11:47 chris you shouldnt need to test, if you record changed it worked ie i edited biblio number 256
11:47 kf can not change the framework :(
11:47 kf is there a way to do it?
11:47 chris which was a small record, now its a full record
11:47 chris on the edit screen, shoud be able to change it on the top right
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11:48 kf chris: we must be driving you crazy :)
11:48 kf chris/nengard: added a fast add, saved, waited until indexed, searched for it, edit record from detail screen
11:49 kf started z39.50 search - want to change the framework now, because it's no longer a fast add
11:49 kf but the pull down it set back to fast add
11:49 chris yeah thats a totally different thing
11:49 chris overloadng bug reports is my biggest pet peeve :-)
11:50 nengard that is not only differnet - but very obvious to those cataloging
11:51 chris so back on track
11:51 chris can we confirm that the original bug is no longer occuring?
11:51 chris i cant replicate it
11:52 nengard right and i closed it
11:53 chris cool
11:53 magnus yay!
11:54 nengard thanks for testing all - we always need to test each other's bug reports cause it's not always a bug for everyone :)
11:54 chris and developers should not be scared
11:55 chris to close bugs if they cant replicate
11:55 chris it can always be reopened
11:55 * magnus thinks watching stuff like this happening in real time is pretty amazing - that's one bug solved by people in germany, us & nz!
11:55 kf :)
11:55 kf nengard: is there a bug about the framework problem?
11:56 nengard not one i reported, but i'll search
11:57 nengard i'm not seeing it....
11:58 chris ok time for sleep
11:58 kf good night chris
11:59 kf nengard: not seeing it in the bug database or in your installation?
11:59 nengard sorry - the bug database
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11:59 kf nengard: can you test perhaps? I can not change the framework from fast add to standard in cataloging. when I open the file in marc view (catalog) and change pulldown to standard it shows nothing
12:00 nengard give me a sec and i'll test
12:00 kf thank you :)
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12:01 kf bug 4513
12:01 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4513 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Resetting framework to Default seems impossible
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12:02 nengard kf i saw that but i thought you couldn't change to any template
12:02 nengard not just default
12:03 kf I only have default and fast add - not all frameworks installed
12:03 kf only mandatory
12:07 nengard kf okay i just tested
12:07 nengard i created a record with fast add framework
12:07 nengard i clicked edit record and then did a z39.50 search
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12:07 nengard i found the record and imported it
12:07 nengard it was set to fast add framework still so i chose default from the list
12:08 nengard and it changed to default - i saved and all the values were there
12:08 kf strange
12:08 nengard so it doesn't look like it's a bug for me - unless i did something diff from you
12:08 kf mine kept switching back to default
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12:09 kf did you save your record before editing it?
12:09 nengard yes
12:10 nengard i'm also logged in as superlibrarian - if that makes a diff
12:10 kf let me check
12:10 kf Its always changing back to fast add
12:11 kf I am superlibrarian too
12:11 kf oh I hate bugs like this
12:11 kf let me see if I can reproduce your steps
12:12 kf go to cataloging - new record - choose fast add framework - add 245 and save
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12:13 kf edit record from catalog's normal view
12:13 kf change framework to default - works
12:13 kf so what was different for the first record?
12:15 kf nengard: can you test with a fast add to change framework to default in the marc view from catalog?
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12:18 kf nengard: appears to be a translation problem
12:18 kf nengard: cant change framework in German templates, but with English templates no problem
12:25 kf nengard: closing bug :)
12:26 magnus yay!
12:27 kf recreating the templates did it - perhaps some recent change fixed the problem
12:27 kf magnus++ #for his cheery mood and optimism ;)
12:28 magnus ooh, thanks!
12:28 kf :)
12:29 kf magnus: flight is booked now - will arrive 21st at 3 pm :)
12:29 magnus yay!
12:32 magnus @karma magnus
12:33 munin magnus: Karma for "magnus" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6.
12:33 chris_n g'morning
12:34 kf jwagner: around?
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12:35 jwagner Hi kf
12:35 kf hi jwagner: looking at bug 3046
12:35 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3046 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, System ignores MaxFine syspref
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12:36 kf I did a lot of fines testing but never saw that problem again, do you think we can close the bug? or perhaps change it to enhancemnt because of the suggestions for better fines management in the comments?
12:37 nengard kf which flight booked?
12:37 jwagner I'd say it could be closed.  One of our features has max fines in the circ rules instead, and I think there's other development along those lines.
12:37 kf nengard: zürich - london - bangkok - sydney - auckland :)
12:38 nengard for kohacon?
12:38 kf max fines in circ rules - want it! :)
12:38 kf yes, will be at the road trip first
12:39 jwagner kf, Bug 3507 :-)
12:39 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3507 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Circ rules enhancements, maximum fine warning
12:40 kf nengard: really happy I can attend :)
12:40 nengard woo hoo :)
12:40 nengard mine is booked to i arrive on the 22nd or 23rd - i forget now ;)
12:43 kf booked yesterday, so I still know - will start my journey on 19th
12:44 hdl no owen today ?
12:45 kf @seen owen
12:45 munin kf: owen was last seen in #koha 16 hours, 32 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <owen> See y'all tomorrow
12:48 nengard hdl it's not 9am here yet
12:48 kf hdl: do you know if  bug 3046 fixed in 3.0.x? can I close the bug? the Version says rel_3_0
12:48 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3046 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, System ignores MaxFine syspref
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13:11 indradg gmcharlt, ping
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13:14 indradg any MarcEdit users around?
13:19 nengard i'm no expert, but i've used it
13:26 hdl kf: can't reproduce it.
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13:26 hdl kf: looks like the preference search is not case sensitive.
13:27 hdl So should not be a problem
13:27 kf hdl: I know it is fixed in head, but was not sure its ok to close the bug because of the version it refers to
13:28 hdl should be ok in 3.0
13:34 kf thx
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13:44 nengard can anyone tell me if the patch for bug 3670 was ever pushed? i don't see a record of it being pushed - and it's such a tini tiny fix :)
13:44 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3670 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, Why is DUE all caps on enhanced messages
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13:52 hdl @later tell nengard bug 3670 doesnot seem to be pushed (bug is till in the code)
13:52 munin hdl: The operation succeeded.
13:52 hdl installer/data/mysql/en/optional/s​ample_notices_message_attributes.sql
13:53 hdl in french and polish to
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15:19 fredericd hdl: we've already talked about bug 5067.
15:19 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5067 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, import script removes dashes in ISBN fields
15:19 fredericd Removing dashed in entering biblio records could be seen as a feature
15:19 fredericd but I have librarians who think differently
15:20 wizzyrea what it really needs is an option to leave them or remove them
15:20 wizzyrea or an option to standardize them
15:21 wizzyrea or all 3
15:21 fredericd 'standardize'?
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15:21 wizzyrea insert dashes if none exist and you want them, or remove them if you have them and don't want them
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15:22 wizzyrea but I usppose you could use marcedit for that
15:22 sekjal I assume we're talking about dashes in the MARC, not in the biblioitems.isbn field of the database?
15:23 fredericd both since db isbn is a copy of marc field
15:23 sekjal it would make sense to me to store a 'normalized' version in the database, but leave the MARC field alone (or provide plugins to massage it however one may like)
15:24 hdl fredericd: ?
15:27 fredericd hdl: oui
15:29 fredericd My point of view is that shouldn't be use to do too many thing, link normalizing biblio records.
15:29 fredericd If you want to normalize do it before importing
15:30 sekjal fredericd: that sounds reasonable
15:31 hdl actually bulkmarcimport is now being used with to many options and is doing manythings.
15:32 hdl I quite agree with you.
15:32 hdl bulkmarcimport should import data and not try to process them.
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15:34 hdl But  there would be an impact in the import rate I think doing the process before.
15:34 druthb hi, #koha! :)
15:34 hdl hi druthb
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15:45 kf hi druthb!
15:45 kf where have you been? :)
15:47 druthb We had a fierce storm here Sunday that took out power to about 300K people in the area.  My home will be without power until Thursday night late, most likely.  :/
15:47 kf oh
15:47 druthb The office was down all day Monday, and part of yesterday, too, so no sense coming in...
15:48 kf fredericd: It seems staged marc import does not change the ISBN. Not sure if there is a difference between MARC21 and UNIMARC, we use MARC21.
15:48 kf druthb: glad you are back
15:49 druthb good to be back, thanks. :)
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16:39 mib_75qq2 Hello, would anyknow hazard a guess as to why when I am here ([…]/ and click the NEW button, nothing happens??
16:40 mib_75qq2 No info in the logs, the browser just sites there, doing nothing!
16:43 kf which version are you running?
16:45 kf mib_75qq2: which version? have you defined borrower categories under administration?
16:50 mib_75qq2 3.06
16:54 kf borrower categories defined?
16:56 kf sorry, I have to leave now. getting late here.
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16:57 wizzyrea ^^ check to make sure you have borrower categories defined
16:57 mib_75qq2 thanks, will do
16:57 wizzyrea if you didn't install the default data, you probably don't have any
16:57 wizzyrea :)
17:01 mib_75qq2 your prob gone - but that is what the problem was!
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17:01 briceSanc Hello all
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17:02 briceSanc I'm working on[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5038
17:02 munin Bug 5038: enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Checkout by hour
17:04 sekjal briceSanc: that's a pretty big enhancement
17:05 briceSanc and i want to know something : if i create a new syspref record in circulation.pref. Do i need to add new entries in the  .../installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql ?
17:06 briceSanc thanks sekjal
17:07 sekjal briceSanc: are you implementing the RFC that was originally written for Koha 3.2, or are you doing it a different way?
17:08 briceSanc i don't know what is RFC
17:08 sekjal[…]tion_policies_RFC
17:09 sekjal stands for Request for Comment (I believe)
17:14 briceSanc my features are similar
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17:16 sekjal briceSanc: do you have them written down anywhere?
17:16 sekjal anywhere the Koha community could access to read, I mean
17:17 reva hello chris_n: remember me from Antigua and barbuda Bureau of Standards. I have installed Koha 3.0.6 using a Live CD/Virtual Box install to give it a test run. I have figured out some stuff. But would like help with 1) how to import LOC authority data into Koha 2) how I would have clickable "see from" and "see also" entries in my search hit list. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
17:18 briceSanc sekjal, i have nothing apart a fresh install of Koha 3.2beta
17:19 reva chris_n: I have created some authority using personal name heading on my own and they work fine, it is just that there are no clickable "see also" links showing up on the hit list.
17:20 sekjal briceSanc: I'd recommend working out a full set of requirements for exactly what the system needs to do with hourly circulation periods, and sending that to the Koha listserv
17:25 reva hi anyone? can you help with the two questions that I just asked chris_n? Thanks.
17:26 sekjal reva: for the import of LOC authority data, you'll need to do it from the command line with the script
17:26 sekjal the authorities will need to be in .mrc
17:29 reva sekjal: I am familiar with Unix and so command line interface. So where would I find the bulkimport script? Also the clickable "see also" and "see from" links in the search hit list question.
17:29 sekjal reva:  the script lives in misc/migration_tools
17:30 briceSanc sekjal, i have to follow the request of my customer but every job's done is pull to the Koha GIT
17:30 briceSanc push
17:31 reva sekjar: so I just use the location in the command to run it? what is the command line syntax for running it?
17:32 sekjal reva: from the directory, you can run perl -h to see the usage for the script
17:33 sekjal briceSanc: generally, the way new developments brought into the Koha Git repository is through patches submitted to the patches list, or pull requests.
17:33 sekjal briceSanc: I believe only the release managers and maintainers have push access
17:34 reva sekjal: Sorry for being ignorant. Where would I find the directory?
17:34 sekjal reva: do you have a production or dev installation?
17:36 briceSanc sekjal, yes, i know. I' m a french-canadian user of Koha and my english is not perfect, i should wrote :  every job's done will be proposed to the Koha community
17:36 briceSanc ;)
17:37 reva sekjal: I installed Koha Live CD and it is on VirtualBox right now; This Live Cd is by mizst,: The features I have tested work ok so far.  We hope to be installing it on our hard disk soon for production.
17:37 sekjal briceSanc:  ah, okay.  sorry for my misunderstanding.
17:38 joetho there is a Koha live-cd?
17:38 joetho how cool is THAT?
17:40 sekjal reva: when Koha is installed, there is an option to use the production mode (which copies all the Koha files to new locations, typically /usr/share/koha... and /etc/koha...)
17:40 reva joetho: you bet you; there are two of 3.0.6 and mizst has older version ones on Live CD as well. The 3.0.6 comes with Ubuntu server 10.04. We had to go this route since we are running Windows and we wanted to test it on virtualization.
17:40 sekjal or there is dev mode, which just refers to the code from the unzipped or git-cloned directory immediately
17:42 sekjal dev mode typically has the files living in something like /home/koha/kohaclone...
17:42 sekjal or wherever you downloaded the code initially
17:42 sekjal since this is the Live CD, I'm not sure where the files would be
17:43 jcamins reva, sekjal: I think the LiveCD has a dev install. The LiveCD for 3.0.2 did.
17:43 reva sekjal: When I installed it the LiveCD in VirtualBox, it did not give me any choice as to mode. So I guess I need to install it on my hard drive to find this directory?
17:43 jcamins Try /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/ ...
17:44 jcamins I don't actually know where home directories are under Linux, so you might need to look elsewhere.
17:45 reva sekjal: Ok, I will try it thre and if no successful locating it, I will contact the developer, mizst of this CD. and find out.
17:45 sekjal jcamins: the Live CD is based on Ubuntu, which should put a dev install under /home/**user**/**directory**
17:46 jcamins Even though I started using Ubuntu a while ago, the only directory structure I have memorized is FreeBSD's.
17:46 jcamins One day I will get Ubuntu's straight, too. :)
17:49 reva sekjal: about the clickable links for "see from" and "see also" in the hit list? How do I have them show up. Right now, when I test it with the authority data I created (personal name heading) it works and finds the author through all the access points, but there are no "see also" entry showing up on the hit list.
17:50 sekjal reva: which search are you using: biblio or authority, and which side: OPAC or staff client?
17:53 reva I used the general search box that comes up on the Home screen and on the authority search also. My entry for the variants of the author's name shows up in both the searches. But no clickable "see from" links etc.
17:54 reva Oh, I should say I was in the staff client, because we have not virtual tested the OPAC client.
17:54 reva sekjal: so would I see them only on the OPAC search?
17:58 sekjal reva: it's possible.  I'm running some tests now
18:00 sekjal reva: my testing shows that I'm getting used for/see from info for authorities in the staff client authority search
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18:04 reva sekjal: so I must set something which I have not. But I only used the pere-set 500 field (see also, I believe) for tying (sp?) to 100 field Main entry. Can you long distance diagnose why it is not working for me?
18:05 reva sekjal: that is pre-set Personal Name heading.
18:11 sekjal reva: sorry, one moment please
18:12 reva sekjal: that is ok, I am here for a couple of more hours:).
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18:42 sekjal reva: sorry, have to dash.  will hopefully be back on later
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18:45 reva sekjal: will catch up later. I find the authority search brings up the clickable links for both "see also" and "see from", but no links on the general search on Home page. Bye and Thanks.
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18:46 mRCUTEO hi
18:47 mRCUTEO anyone available for help
18:47 mRCUTEO im trying to install koha using perl 5.8 and i got this error:
18:47 mRCUTEO Can't locate in @INC (@
18:47 mRCUTEO anyone can assist?
18:48 wizzyrea what are you trying to do when you get this message
18:49 mRCUTEO i open http://localhost:8080
18:49 mRCUTEO and i got this message
18:49 mRCUTEO i already fullfiled all the dependencies needed
18:50 mRCUTEO Can't locate in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.​8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5​.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Date/ line 55.
18:50 mRCUTEO BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Date/ line 55.
18:50 mRCUTEO Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 24.
18:52 jcamins mRCUTEO: I think you have to use Perl 5.10 or later.
18:53 mRCUTEO jcamins is there a way i can upgrade my perl from CPAN ?
18:53 mRCUTEO or should i recompile new perl
18:53 jcamins I think you have to install a newer version of perl using your platform's package manager.
18:54 mRCUTEO im using centos
18:54 jcamins rpm, maybe?
18:54 mRCUTEO yerp have tu find perl 5.10 rpm :(
18:54 mRCUTEO then i have to redo all the cpan installation?
18:55 jcamins Yes.
18:56 mRCUTEO my oh my thanks for the info jcamins.. i just figured out i needed 5.10 after i try to view it on the web
18:56 mRCUTEO tough luck :(
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19:52 chris Morning
19:53 wizzyrea heya
19:54 cait hi chris
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20:02 chris @wunder wellington,nz
20:02 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 5.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on July 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
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20:03 chris Hmm this day could go either way
20:04 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:04 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 18.0�C (10:00 PM CEST on July 28, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
20:04 chris Hmm police have adelaide rd blocked
20:05 * chris checks stuff
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20:06 chris Ahh open again, traffic accident I think :(
20:07 chris_n @wunder 28334
20:07 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 34.0�C (4:00 PM EDT on July 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
20:08 chris I always panic if I think its gonna be a big news day
20:08 chris_n hehe
20:08 cait :) finally found my old passport
20:08 chris Cool
20:09 cait only took 1 hour for search... :)
20:09 cait relieved now
20:10 chris Yay
20:10 cait yay :)
20:11 cait where is magnus?
20:11 * cait feels like I am using his word
20:11 chris Hehe
20:11 chris You guys are gonna have a fun road trip
20:12 cait :)
20:19 * larsw waves
20:19 cait hi larsw
20:20 chris Heya larsw
20:24 chris Ur in nyc now?
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20:25 richard hi
20:26 chris Hi richard
20:26 richard hey chris
20:26 * richard at home today - flu alert at hq
20:26 chris Ahh stay away from that
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22:14 Nate gnight all
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23:36 * robin prepares to build the latest Koha packages
23:37 chris sweet
23:46 * robin has deployed the latest Koha packages
23:47 robin The process is now down to 10 minutes :)
23:47 chris noice

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