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| 00:09 |
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Steven |
anybody there? |
| 00:10 |
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Steven |
i still haven't solve my problem for crontab fines.pl |
| 00:10 |
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Steven |
it is really appreciate if somebody can give me some guide on it |
| 00:11 |
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robin |
Steven: you haven't said what your problem is. |
| 00:11 |
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Steven |
i cant make the fines.pl works to me |
| 00:12 |
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Steven |
i have read the cronjob.example.......but i have no idea how to set the env variable in the first place |
| 00:12 |
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Steven |
especially the kona-conf.xml and build_zebra.pl |
| 00:13 |
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Steven |
i have to run a cronjob for these 2 variable first? |
| 00:13 |
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robin |
You mean the PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF ones? |
| 00:13 |
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Steven |
yaya |
| 00:14 |
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Steven |
this 2 files were located in different path.....so i cant use the example given in the cronjob.example |
| 00:14 |
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robin |
you just put those in the crontab file like they are in the example, and they will be set when they are used. |
| 00:14 |
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robin |
Oh. Just edit those lines in your actual crontab. |
| 00:15 |
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Steven |
let me give u my actually path for both files...can u pls write the crontab for me? |
| 00:16 |
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robin |
Not the whole thing, but it's just a matter of changing the paths of the values given to those variables. |
| 00:16 |
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Steven |
my koha-conf.xml is located at /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml, my rebuild_zebra.pl located at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 00:16 |
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Steven |
but there are 2 example in the cronjob.example |
| 00:17 |
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Steven |
which one should i use.....single core base or separate core base |
| 00:17 |
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robin |
In that case, you'll set: KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 00:18 |
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robin |
I'd expect just the same codebase one. |
| 00:18 |
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Steven |
okok.... |
| 00:19 |
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Steven |
so the fines.pl will only work after i have run the cronjob for these 2 env variables? |
| 00:19 |
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robin |
the 'PERL5LIB' one will need to change also, that will point to the directory that the Koha Perl libraries are in. |
| 00:19 |
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robin |
It should do, yes. |
| 00:20 |
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Steven |
so i will need to put 2 actions in the crontab? one is the env varible which run first.......then for fines.pl? |
| 00:21 |
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Steven |
so the PERL5LIB is it the path to the rebuild_zebra.pl? |
| 00:21 |
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robin |
No, you set the environment variables up first, and then they will apply to the commands that are run later. |
| 00:21 |
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Steven |
i dont get it....pls explain more... |
| 00:21 |
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Steven |
how to set it? |
| 00:22 |
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robin |
PERL5LIB should be the directory that Koha is extracted to. It'll probably have a subdirectory called "C4" among other things. |
| 00:23 |
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robin |
In the crontab file, you set these values, and then the commands like fines.pl will use them. |
| 00:24 |
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robin |
It tells them where to find the information they need to run, especially where to find the koha configuration, and where to find the koha libraries. |
| 00:24 |
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Steven |
i m really noob on it.....not use to ubuntu actually |
| 00:25 |
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Steven |
just guide me step by step |
| 00:25 |
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Steven |
so what i have to do in the very first place.... |
| 00:25 |
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robin |
It's hard to guide you, because I don't have all the information. Start with: how did you install Koha? |
| 00:25 |
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robin |
And what version are you using? |
| 00:26 |
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Steven |
i m using 3.0.6...under Ubuntu server edition...i m using the Koha Live CD at the beginning |
| 00:27 |
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Steven |
so after Ubuntu is installed....i run the Koha Installer Wizard from the firefox browser....and set up koha for installation |
| 00:28 |
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robin |
ah. I haven't seen how the koha live CD sets things up, looking now. |
| 00:28 |
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robin |
From the look of this: http://sourceforge.net/project[…]eadme.r5.txt/view |
| 00:28 |
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robin |
it should be ready to go, and you don't need to set the crontabs. |
| 00:28 |
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robin |
(as in, it should be doing it for you) |
| 00:29 |
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Steven |
no there is no crontab running.....in the first place |
| 00:30 |
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Steven |
i have key in some sample for testing.... |
| 00:30 |
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Steven |
even the system show the title is overdue....but fines is remain at zero |
| 00:31 |
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robin |
ah. Hmm. |
| 00:33 |
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robin |
I'd really expect that it's running it for you. Have a look in /var/log/syslog and see if you see a line along the lines of CRON[12345]: (root) CMD ( .... fines.pl ...) |
| 00:33 |
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robin |
that'll let you know that it is being run. |
| 00:34 |
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robin |
Otherwise, I'm not sure. I've never used the live CD, someone who has may have to help you out there. Oh, you do have fines set in the borrower profile in the administration? |
| 00:34 |
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robin |
'patron categories' is what I mean by that... |
| 00:35 |
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Steven |
setting is all done under the koha admin.....finemode is in 'production'.....circulation rules is done too |
| 00:36 |
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robin |
OK. I'm not sure then, it seems strange to me that it's not set up to work by default. |
| 00:37 |
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robin |
But, like I said, I've never used it, and don't have time at the moment to try installing it. |
| 00:37 |
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Steven |
there is no crontab being running.....i have check under terminal with crontab -l |
| 00:37 |
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robin |
Maybe ask on the mailing list. I think everyone else here must be asleep :) |
| 00:37 |
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robin |
crontab -l won't tell you about the system crontabs, just user ones. |
| 00:38 |
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Steven |
can u give me some guide to set up the 2 env variables? |
| 00:38 |
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Steven |
i assume the fines.pl is only working after i set up the 2 env varibales |
| 00:38 |
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robin |
have a look in /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.d to see if there's anything relating to koha in any of them. |
| 00:39 |
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| 00:39 |
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Steven |
i dont have crontab directory......cron.d has nothing about koha |
| 00:40 |
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robin |
'cat /etc/crontab' should give you something... |
| 00:43 |
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* robin |
has to go to lunch |
| 00:47 |
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Steven |
wait let me check n see |
| 00:54 |
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Steven |
robin u went out for lunch? |
| 00:54 |
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| 00:55 |
|
Steven |
there is a CRON :(root) CMD (...fines.pl...) in the syslog |
| 01:02 |
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Steven |
anybody there? |
| 01:07 |
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larsw |
what's up? |
| 01:08 |
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Steven |
my fines.pl is not working |
| 01:09 |
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Steven |
so i was wondering....is it bcoz i have not set up the 2 env varibale |
| 01:09 |
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larsw |
the syslog entry would indicate that cron does run it, so the problem must be something else; I know nothing about how fines.pl works, though, so can't help much there |
| 01:10 |
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Steven |
larsw,....u have idea on how to set up the 2 env variables....KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB |
| 01:11 |
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larsw |
they should be set in the apache config: /etc/apache2/sites-available/foo for some value of foo |
| 01:12 |
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Steven |
bcoz i assume this is the reason y fines.pl is running but nothing being charge to the patron in koha system |
| 01:15 |
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Steven |
bcoz stated in the cronjob.example file....i need to set the 2 env variable first..... |
| 01:15 |
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Steven |
and i have no idea how to set it up |
| 01:15 |
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chris |
if you look at the example, it sets the 2 values |
| 01:15 |
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chris |
you just copy that, and change the paths |
| 01:16 |
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larsw |
ah yeah, cronjob does not run from apache, silly me |
| 01:17 |
|
chris |
# ENVIRONMENT: |
| 01:17 |
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chris |
# First, establish Koha's two important ENV variables. |
| 01:17 |
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chris |
PERL5LIB=/path/to/where/C4_lives |
| 01:17 |
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chris |
KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 01:17 |
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chris |
you will definitely have to change the first path, but the 2nd might be right |
| 01:17 |
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Steven |
yaya....where i can find my C4_lives path? |
| 01:18 |
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Steven |
the PERL5LIB is it leading to the rebuild_zebra.pl? |
| 01:18 |
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chris |
no |
| 01:18 |
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chris |
look in /usr/share/koha/lib |
| 01:18 |
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chris |
is there a directory in there called C4 ? |
| 01:19 |
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chris |
if so |
| 01:19 |
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chris |
then /usr/share/koha/lib is what you set PERL5LIB to |
| 01:19 |
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| 01:19 |
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Steven |
okok.....pls guide me on how to write in on the crontab |
| 01:20 |
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Steven |
how to establish them? |
| 01:20 |
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chris |
you just put those lines in, like i pasted, but with the right paths, at the top |
| 01:21 |
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Steven |
so the PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib.....m i right? |
| 01:22 |
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chris |
if that is where your C4 directory is |
| 01:22 |
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chris |
did you check? |
| 01:22 |
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Steven |
yaya...there is a C4 directory there |
| 01:22 |
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chris |
yep then that line |
| 01:22 |
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chris |
plus the KOHA_CONF= |
| 01:22 |
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chris |
one |
| 01:23 |
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Steven |
ok...first i type crontab -e in terminal |
| 01:23 |
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Steven |
then i key in it?\ |
| 01:23 |
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chris |
yes |
| 01:25 |
|
Steven |
then? |
| 01:25 |
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chris |
its above your other entries in that file right? |
| 01:25 |
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Steven |
yaya |
| 01:26 |
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chris |
then quit the editor |
| 01:26 |
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Steven |
but below it i got the cronjob for koha-conf.xml, rebuild_zebra.pl and fines.pl....how? |
| 01:27 |
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chris |
what? |
| 01:27 |
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Steven |
bcoz b4 that i have set the crontab for fines.pl...... |
| 01:28 |
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Steven |
i m still in the editor now..... |
| 01:30 |
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Steven |
so after the 2 env variable written in the crontab...folllowing is like */10 * * * * KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 01:30 |
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Steven |
so should i delete it....or just leave it there? |
| 01:31 |
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chris |
are you using zebra? |
| 01:31 |
|
Steven |
not really |
| 01:31 |
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chris |
take the line out then |
| 01:33 |
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Steven |
then how about the fines? eg. 1 0 * * * /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl......? |
| 01:33 |
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chris |
don't you want to run the fines? |
| 01:33 |
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chris |
if you do, leave it there |
| 01:33 |
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Steven |
yes of course.... |
| 01:34 |
|
Steven |
all i want is to get the overdue fine generated automatically |
| 01:34 |
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Steven |
so? |
| 01:35 |
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chris |
so leave that line there |
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| 01:35 |
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Steven |
then is it mean the 2 env varibales are established? |
| 01:36 |
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chris |
hopefully |
| 01:37 |
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Steven |
wait let me try to overdue fine first...to see whether it got auto-generated or not.... |
| 01:37 |
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chris |
it wont |
| 01:37 |
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chris |
until that cronjob runs |
| 01:38 |
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Steven |
i will change the system time for it... |
| 01:40 |
|
Steven |
so the fines will be added into the patron acc? |
| 01:41 |
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Steven |
it works!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:42 |
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chris |
cool |
| 01:42 |
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Steven |
ok....next step now is how to do back up process? |
| 01:43 |
|
Steven |
using crontab too? |
| 01:59 |
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Steven |
anybody? |
| 02:01 |
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| 02:31 |
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chris_n is now known as code_mule |
| 02:39 |
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| 02:44 |
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Steven |
chris: u there? |
| 02:44 |
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wasabi |
code_mule: nice handle chris ;) |
| 02:45 |
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code_mule |
its what /me feels like atm :) |
| 02:47 |
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wasabi |
Steven: you can back up your mysql database using mysqldump |
| 02:47 |
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wasabi |
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]en/mysqldump.html |
| 02:48 |
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code_mule |
ok, now that I've churned out a patch its bedtime |
| 02:48 |
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code_mule is now known as chris_n |
| 02:48 |
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chris_n |
g'night |
| 02:48 |
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chris |
:) |
| 02:49 |
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Steven |
anyway to use crontab for backup? |
| 02:49 |
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wasabi |
i use backup-manager |
| 02:49 |
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wasabi |
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/backup-manager |
| 02:51 |
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wasabi |
http://paste.koha-community.org/27 |
| 03:17 |
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wasabi |
Steven: i hope that was of some help to you... |
| 03:29 |
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Steven |
wasabi: Thanks |
| 03:29 |
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Steven |
i m testing out with the Koha Live CD actually |
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chrisc |
hi brendan |
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| 06:08 |
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cait |
good morning all |
| 06:25 |
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cait |
good morning fredericd |
| 06:42 |
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cait |
time for work, bye all |
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kmkale |
good morning |
| 06:55 |
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kmkale |
In staff advanced search when I do a item type + location search it only searches in the permanent location not holding branch. Is there a way to change this behaviour to search in holding branch instead? |
| 07:18 |
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| 07:18 |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
| 07:18 |
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Ropuch |
Good morning kf |
| 07:19 |
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kf |
hi Ropuch! |
| 07:20 |
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kf |
are you going to KohaCon |
| 07:20 |
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kf |
? |
| 07:24 |
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Ropuch |
Not likely |
| 07:25 |
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Ropuch |
We're thinking about getting some credit and buying a flat |
| 07:25 |
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| 07:25 |
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kf |
ok |
| 07:26 |
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Ropuch |
I bet my fiance would tear me apart if I was to spent so much money on NZ-trip ;> |
| 07:26 |
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Ropuch |
And you? Have you decided yet? |
| 07:28 |
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kf |
yes, I will go |
| 07:29 |
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kf |
decided last week |
| 07:31 |
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Ropuch |
Nice :) |
| 07:43 |
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chrisc |
yay! |
| 07:44 |
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Ropuch |
Hi chrisc |
| 07:45 |
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chrisc is now known as chris |
| 07:47 |
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chris |
kmkale: what is your HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref set to? |
| 07:50 |
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robin |
http://awfullibrarybooks.wordpress.com/ <-- chris, should we want test data for Koha, this is the perfect source of current and useful information! |
| 07:51 |
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chris |
heh |
| 07:56 |
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kf |
hi chris |
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chris |
hiya kf |
| 08:04 |
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| 08:06 |
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Steven |
Anybody still using koha 2.2.9? |
| 08:07 |
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hdl |
Steven: not using it but what is your question about it. |
| 08:07 |
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Steven |
is it true that fines.pl cant never run under koha 2.2.9? |
| 08:08 |
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Steven |
bcoz there is a library using koha 2.2.9 windows version in my country |
| 08:09 |
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Steven |
asking me about the fines.pl....but there is no crontab under windows platform...i m just wondering how to generate it |
| 08:12 |
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Steven |
cant be resolved? |
| 08:13 |
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hdl |
Steven: fines.pl as it stands in 3.0 cannot run in 3.0 yes. |
| 08:14 |
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hdl |
Steven: fines.pl as it stands in 3.0 cannot run in 2.2.9 yes. |
| 08:14 |
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hdl |
sorry |
| 08:14 |
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Steven |
there is a file named fines2.pl in the directory of koha 2.2.9 |
| 08:15 |
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Steven |
if it cant be run....why the file is existing in the first place? |
| 08:15 |
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hdl |
And about Windows platform, i am afraid I cannot tell you. I think you could use Windows Scheduled tasks to act as a crontab. |
| 08:15 |
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hdl |
fines.pl is not fines2.pl |
| 08:16 |
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Steven |
emm....then no way to generate overdue fine for 2.2.9? |
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hdl |
I never had to generate fines in 2.2.9 But i hink fines2.pl could do it. |
| 08:19 |
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kmkale |
hi chris HomeOrHoldingBranch is set to "The library the item was checked out from" |
| 08:20 |
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kmkale |
how does it affect item type + location search in staff advance search? I dont get it.. |
| 08:20 |
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Steven |
fines2.pl is workable in 2.2.9? really??? |
| 08:34 |
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Steven |
anybody can give some alternative how to make koha 2.2.9 overdue fines workable |
| 08:34 |
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hdl |
Steven: have you tried to launch fines2.pl ? |
| 08:38 |
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Steven |
i just launch by double clicking it....seem like nothing happen |
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hdl |
Steven: fines2.pl is a command-line script. |
| 08:47 |
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Steven |
how to run it under command prompt then? |
| 08:47 |
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Steven |
obviously, not like sudo fines2.pl..... |
| 08:49 |
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hdl |
It has to be run as such. |
| 08:49 |
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hdl |
http://www.kohadocs.org/command_line_scripts.html |
| 08:52 |
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Steven |
it didnt mention clearly.... |
| 08:52 |
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Steven |
how to run command line script under windows platform |
| 09:00 |
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hdl |
I never installed Koha on windows |
| 09:00 |
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hdl |
so cannot help. |
| 09:00 |
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hdl |
sorry |
| 09:00 |
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hdl |
http://www.koha.rwjr.com/Koha_on_Windows.html |
| 09:01 |
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hdl |
I have seen no helpful hint here either |
| 09:04 |
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Steven |
feel so helpless..... |
| 09:05 |
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Steven |
if koha can really develop for windows platform...i m sure more library will be benefited.....bcoz nowadays....most of the server is using windows os |
| 09:06 |
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imp |
erm :D |
| 09:07 |
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chris |
yeah, not going to get much traction on that one :) |
| 09:08 |
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Steven |
in my country....really hard to find linux engineer....so it is quite hard to see library is using linux platform server |
| 09:09 |
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imp |
where are you from? |
| 09:10 |
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Steven |
Malaysia |
| 09:10 |
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Steven |
here...most of IT specialist only familiar with windows server platform.... |
| 09:11 |
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imp |
ah, that's sad |
| 09:12 |
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chris |
there is quite a big koha community in malaysia |
| 09:12 |
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Steven |
then is it possible to run koha 3.0.6 in VMware under windows platform? |
| 09:12 |
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chris |
and they are running under linux |
| 09:12 |
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chris |
one of the speakers at kohacon10 is talking about it |
| 09:14 |
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Steven |
icic....we got few libraries here using Koha.....less than 10 |
| 09:16 |
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chris |
do you know Amzari Abu Bakar? |
| 09:19 |
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Steven |
nope....i m new to koha community |
| 09:22 |
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chris |
i would recommend you talk to some of the others in malaysia who are running koha under linux, most of us here have very little interest in proprietary software |
| 09:23 |
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Steven |
okok |
| 09:23 |
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chris |
and yes, you can run Koha under vmware |
| 09:33 |
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Steven |
ok...gtg.... |
| 09:33 |
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Steven |
thx for all the helps |
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kf |
lunch bbl |
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kf |
back |
| 10:36 |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.3�C (12:36 PM CEST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
check your sources munin, its defnitely over 27 degrees |
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braedon|h |
@wunder auckland |
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munin |
braedon|h: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 8.0�C (10:00 PM NZST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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imp |
@wunder hannover germany |
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munin |
imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is 32.0�C (12:00 PM CEST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.6�C (12:46 PM CEST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
hmpf. |
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kf |
@wunder Wollmatingen, Germany |
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munin |
kf: Error: No such location could be found. |
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kf |
@Wunder singen germany |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Bodensee, Ramsen, Germany is 30.3�C (12:01 PM CEST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
howdy, #koha. |
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chris |
hi druthb |
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kf |
hi druthb :) |
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Ropuch |
@wunder Wroclaw |
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munin |
Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is 32.0�C (1:00 PM CEST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
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Ropuch |
32 degrees, feels like 40 ;/ |
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kf |
Ropuch: you are right |
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kf |
really feels like 40 |
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druthb |
@wunder 20817 |
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munin |
druthb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 18.9�C (7:13 AM EDT on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
Much cooler here this morning. |
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@wunder wellington, nz |
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chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 5.0�C (11:00 PM NZST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
brr! |
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hands chris an extra blanket or two. |
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kf |
5 degrees sounds like heaven |
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wasabi |
this is worth a giggle... |
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wasabi |
http://linux.slashdot.org/stor[…]Copied-Into-Linux |
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kf |
hi jwagner |
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kf |
@wunder wollmatingen germany |
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munin |
kf: Error: No such location could be found. |
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kf |
@wunder konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.9�C (1:34 PM CEST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
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jwagner |
Morning, kf |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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jwagner |
morning, gmcharlt |
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nengard |
woke up and went right to writing the manual and forgot to log in and say hi to everyone! good morning all |
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druthb |
hi, nengard! |
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nengard |
howdy |
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kf |
hi nengard |
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nengard |
morning kf |
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@wunder singen germany |
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kf: The current temperature in Bodensee, Ramsen, Germany is 31.9�C (2:01 PM CEST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
g'day #koha |
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owen |
Hi from me too |
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owen |
nengard: I just saw your latest comment on Bug 4018, but I can't reproduce the error. Is that still an issue for you? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4018 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Coins support problems and xslt |
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nengard |
retesting |
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nengard |
yes, it is still an issue for me ... this on HEAD with most recent FF and most recent Zotero |
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nengard |
maybe it's something with my install though .... |
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owen |
nengard: The error pops up instead of the list of titles added? |
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hdl |
hi nengard..... and all koha world |
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nengard |
no the errors pop up and the titles are added |
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nengard |
oh owen - sorry |
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nengard |
yes - the errors appear on the right instead of the list of titles, but the titles are added to zotero too |
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owen |
Hmmm... Windows 7, Firefox 3.6.6, Zotero 2.0.3. No errors. |
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owen |
If I can remember I'll try to test it when I'm on my Mac at home. |
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nengard |
Mac OS X, Firefox 3.6.6, Zotero 2.0.3 -- error :) |
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nengard |
like i said it's not a huge deal - I've seen it on other sites too |
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owen |
nengard: Have you searched zotero's forums for the same problem? |
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nengard |
nope |
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kf |
can someone explain to me how encumbrance and expenditure work? |
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kf |
I entered 100 in expenditure and saved, now when I edit the fund it says 100.00000 and I get an error message 'Budget total exceeds period allocation' |
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owen |
that is a known bug |
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owen |
I'm not sure why it's not a blocker, since it prevents you from editing funds |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
so it should be a blocker |
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kf |
you cant change your amount |
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owen |
Bug 4438 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4438 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, incorrect "Budget total exceeds period allocation" error when editing fund |
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kf |
normal? |
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kf |
I think of libraries getting more money at the end of the year, so they will want to change the amount |
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kf |
or change expenditure to a higher value |
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kf |
? |
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owen |
I agree that it is more severe than "normal" |
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kf |
am I brave enough to make it a blocker? |
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owen |
Hey, gmcharlt can always swat it down if he disagrees |
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kf |
gmcharlt: around? |
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gmcharlt |
kf: I'd call it a major |
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owen |
That does better match the official severity descriptions: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]html#bug_severity |
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jcamins_a |
Good morning, #koha |
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owen |
But I'm not sure all the blockers match that list either |
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kf |
gmcharlt: can I argue for a critical? |
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kf |
Our libraries often get additional funds at the end of the year, so they need to change the funds |
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gmcharlt |
you may, although technically not a data loss bug |
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kf |
no |
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kf |
but I think it prevents working with acq |
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kf |
or you want to add one more person to be allowed to use that fund |
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kf |
or you just make a mistake at a higher fund level, start ordering and cant correct it |
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kf |
I updated the bug to major. |
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kf |
And saved my fund by deactivating javascript. |
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nengard |
got a cron job question - there is the message queue cron and then there is one for advance notice ... aren't advanced notices part of the message queue? |
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druthb |
nengard, as I understand it, advance_notices and overdue_notices merely create notices, and put them in the message_queue. process_message_queue actually sends them out. |
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nengard |
ahhhh!! thank you for the clarification - updating the manual |
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nengard |
k - so i have a problem then |
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nengard |
in the messages you can get - check in, check out, and holds notices need to be sent out frequently - but due notice, overdues, and advanced notice don't need to be sent more than once a day |
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nengard |
but they all are controlled by one cron |
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Fred |
Hello |
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druthb |
no, they're all *sent out* by one cron. They're controlled by other things. you want process_message_queue to run more frequently, as check in and checkout notices aren't done by a cron at all, as I see it. |
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nengard |
according to the manual (which may be wrong) i wrote that misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl and misc/cronjobs/advance_notices.pl put things in the message queue and then misc/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl sends the messages |
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druthb |
Exactly. |
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nengard |
k - hold messages then |
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nengard |
they're in the message queue |
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nengard |
which means they can only be sent once a day if i set it to send out the advanced notice and the overdues once a day |
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druthb |
Those go in the message queue, and are put there when you trigger the hold, not by a cron. |
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nengard |
oh?! |
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druthb |
process_message_queue can run every hour if you like. |
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nengard |
oh!! it has all just clicked!!! |
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nengard |
:) |
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druthb |
It looks in message_queue, and processes whatever is *there*, and that's all. |
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nengard |
i get it - i use the other crons to decide when to put the messages in the queue - so that i do once a day but i send messages found in the queue every hour and it won't send overdues and advanced notice unless i had that set to put them in the queue |
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nengard |
thank you! |
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Fred |
One question (as usual ) when i do a search on opac and when i got this message '::84: parser error : PCDATA invalid Char value 2' with the subfield, it means i need to clean up my records no? |
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kf |
nengard: I think the message_queue job only sends out the mails marked as pending |
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nengard |
yup |
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kf |
I think we run it hourly, because of holds messages |
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nengard |
next question - there is a cron for print hold notices, but not for print overdues? is that part of the main overdue cron? |
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druthb |
correct, nengard. |
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nengard |
thank you |
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nengard |
i think that the enhancedmessaging preference should be in circulation along with the other notices/msgs - anyone disagree? |
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kf |
where is it now? but sounds logical |
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nengard |
patrons |
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kf |
a new group in in circulation would be nice |
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nengard |
of messages? |
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kf |
I think checkout policy is not quite right |
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kf |
hm I think there are a lot of sys prefs you can argue about |
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kf |
OpacFineNoRenewals is under OPAC, but I think circulation > fines would be nice too |
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nengard |
yeah i know ... |
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nengard |
guess that's the next system pref rewrite :) a way to have one pref in multiple places :) |
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kf |
hm might be confusing, better one in a different structure |
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nengard |
maxfine is under patrons too ... but seems to be a circ pref |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
I normally search for fines and get a lot of save buttons :) |
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kf |
ie and new acq dont like each other |
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kf |
hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
hwy |
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wizzyrea |
ER |
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wizzyrea |
heya |
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wizzyrea |
how is everyone today |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: not too bad. you? |
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* jwagner |
is grumpy, dunno about anyone else :-( |
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* mle |
is also quite grumpy but really trying hard to stay optimistic |
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mle |
: D |
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wizzyrea |
wowie, ok. Am I going to have to tell jokes to cheer everyone up? |
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wizzyrea |
(and I'm doing ok, I think_ |
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wizzyrea |
_ |
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wizzyrea |
) |
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mle |
no no not the jokes |
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* jwagner |
would take chocolate instead :-) |
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mle |
good call |
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* jwagner |
is unfortunately doing my best to also make druthb grumpy -- sorry about that :-( |
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druthb |
naah...you're not making me grumpy, jwagner. the door-slamming noise a moment ago was, in fact, me, but not because of you. |
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jwagner |
No, I know what that was due to -- almost joined you :-) |
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* kf |
is grumpy because its too warm to think about or concentrate on anything |
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jwagner |
How about we all declare this to be not-Monday? Maybe that would help the general grumpiness level. Or maybe it wouldn't. |
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druthb |
jwagner: now, if we could deal with the noisy neighbor in between our offices... |
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kf |
why are my budgets and funds not showing up on acq start page? |
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kf |
why? |
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* kf |
gets even grumpier |
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* jwagner |
sends chocolate to kf |
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* mle |
passes out chocolate truffles |
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kf |
jwagner |
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kf |
it gets even better: cant change my library, because all pull downs have only one entry |
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kf |
altough I have 3 libraries in my system |
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kf |
jwagner = thx jwagner |
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kf |
any ideas? |
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kf |
I cant even select a branch on login |
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kf |
I checked independent branches and singlebrnachmode |
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nengard |
oh crap!! i just got a call - i was supposed to be teaching a workshop this morning - but i had it on the calendar for next monday!!!! waiting to hear back to se eif they want me to do it this afternoon instead - this is a sign that i'm overbooked!!!!!! |
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magnus |
nengard: and ripe for a bit of a summer holiday? ;-) |
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nengard |
i'm ripe for a year long holiday - but i'd never take it - too much of a workaholic |
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nengard |
anyway, i'm dressed and ready to leave the house for presenting if they call and say to come anyway |
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nengard |
i feel so so so bad |
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kf |
forget what I asked... I m blind |
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* kf |
shares some of her chocolate with nengard |
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nengard |
aww shucks ;) thanks |
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kf |
I think leaving early is a great plan for this monday - bye all, bbl :) |
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nengard |
HA!!! not my fault!!! found an email where i was told the date was changed |
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nengard |
WHEW!!! |
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nengard |
doesn't change the fact that students are sitting there waiting for a teacher .. but makes me feel like i'm not losing my mind |
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wizzyrea |
you're not losing your mind |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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jwagner |
You didn't lose it, you just misplaced it :-) |
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druthb |
hi, wizzyrea! |
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wizzyrea |
it's backed up on disk somewhere |
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wizzyrea |
Hey there chums |
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nengard |
thank goodness for google & gmail & email searching or i would have thought i was a bad bad presenter |
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nengard |
who can't keep track of dates |
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druthb |
hey, at least it was something local-ish. Imagine if you'd fumbled a date for something in LA. |
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* sekjal |
is getting grumpier and grumpier as the morning wears on |
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* jwagner |
sends chocolate to sekjal too -- join the club! |
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owen |
collum: Thanks for taking a look at Bug 4901 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4901 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Title & Subtitle w/out space in Zotero |
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nengard |
druthb that would have been horrible, but this is a 2 hour train ride away |
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collum |
owen: NP. I don't know enought about unAPI and COINS to know if unAPI can just be removed from the page. |
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owen |
Yeah me neither |
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jcamins |
owen, collum: I don't know anything unAPI, but I can tell you that removing it made Zotero play nice with our catalog. I'm not sure what else uses unAPI. |
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jcamins |
(I mean, we had it disabled for months, and never encountered any problems with that) |
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owen |
jcamins: You can use unAPI to grab XML data from the catalog for use by other web applications, but in my tests I always used the distinct unapi url I think (rather than opac-detail) |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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nengard |
okay talk rescheduled |
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nengard |
now back to the manual |
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nengard |
but first to change back into comfy clothes versus my presentation outfit |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
:( sekjal you can have the chocolate that kf gave me |
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nengard |
and you can have my help if you can use it :) |
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* magnus |
heads back to the woods |
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* owen |
wonders where he put that unapi test he put together |
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sekjal |
thanks, nengard. I think part of the stress is coming off a nice weekend into fairly urgent stuff, first thing |
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nengard |
yeah - that happens :( |
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wizzyrea |
Where do tadpoles change? |
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wizzyrea |
In a croakroom! |
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druthb |
woah... wizzyrea, where on *earth* did you find that? |
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wizzyrea |
I cannot reveal my secrets. |
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druthb |
heheh |
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wizzyrea |
What is "out of bounds"? |
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wizzyrea |
An exhausted kangaroo! |
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wizzyrea |
munin needs jokes |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Error: "needs" is not a valid command. |
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jwagner |
munin needs a sense of humor, too.... |
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munin |
jwagner: Error: "needs" is not a valid command. |
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nengard |
LOL |
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wizzyrea |
What do you call an American drawing? |
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wizzyrea |
Yankee doodle! |
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nengard |
hehe - are you at home with your little one?? |
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wizzyrea |
lol no |
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wizzyrea |
everybody was grumpy |
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wizzyrea |
I am bringing cheer to the grumpy mondays of #koha! |
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* wizzyrea |
channels Galadriel, in a funny way |
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* jwagner |
applauds wizzyrea's efforts, but isn't sure they're working.... |
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wizzyrea |
aw |
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wizzyrea |
ok fine. :/ |
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jwagner |
Sorry, go-live days are always a little grumpy-producing.... |
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druthb |
keep trying though; your jokes are cleaner than mine. |
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wizzyrea |
ooh yea |
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wizzyrea |
Here's another interesting book title: "Race To The Outhouse" by these authors: |
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wizzyrea |
Will E. Makit and Betty Wont ! |
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nengard |
NO WAY!! :) hehe |
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wizzyrea |
lol, I highly doubt it |
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wizzyrea |
but I made you laugh! |
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wizzyrea |
How do you get a book to like you? |
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wizzyrea |
You check it out. |
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* druthb |
groans.. |
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wizzyrea |
ok sorry |
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wizzyrea |
business. |
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* jwagner |
starts singing tunes from How To Succeed in Business Without Really Trying |
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wizzyrea |
I think my work here is done. We've got her singing, I think that's improvement. :) |
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cait |
hi again all |
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wizzyrea |
hey cait |
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cait |
ice cream, cold shower, cool apartment *sighs happily* |
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wizzyrea |
you missed joke time in #koha |
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druthb |
welcome back, cait. :) |
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hdl |
jwagner: are you on a golive day ? |
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jwagner |
Yep. And doing the dataload myself instead of harassing others :-( |
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* hdl |
sympathizes |
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jwagner |
I don't speak MySQL! Fortunately, I can harass druthb, at least.... |
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jwagner |
Speaking of which... |
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jwagner |
druthb++ # both for helping & for not yelling at me :-) |
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jwagner |
Ya know, now I know why I wanted to get into project management. It's so I can harass OTHERS instead of doing the work myself :-) |
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* druthb |
enjoyed giving jwagner the chops to do her own dataloads. now that she's learned how, a few more practice go-rounds, she'll be ready to take it over without help. |
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* jwagner |
thinks druthb is overly optimistic, there. |
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druthb |
That's why I said a "few". Deliberately vague. |
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owen |
Hmmm... the calendar tables have a slot for "title," the template outputs "title," but the interface won't let you add or edit a title along with the other details |
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* druthb |
grumps a little, about paranoid network administrators. |
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collum |
Are you talking about me druthb? :) |
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wizzyrea |
speaking of paranoia |
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wizzyrea |
was someone working on a web interface "download this whole DB" function? |
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druthb |
nope. A certain paranoia is a useful job skill, but there is such a thing as Way Too Much. Blocking *outbound* connections from a server that almost no-one has a login to, approaches that very closely. |
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druthb |
:-O |
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wizzyrea |
because I was going to remind them that it needs to be extra secure :P |
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druthb |
wizzyrea: while I can see the usefulness of being able to snap off a backup whenever you like....*shudder* |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, I'd personally remind them that it's a Bad Idea.... |
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wizzyrea |
well when I think of such a thing, I think of it more like "scheduule this to be done" |
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jwagner |
As opposed to "do this right now and bring my server to a screaming halt?" |
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wizzyrea |
hehe yes, something like that. I can fathom several ways around that, but it all involves more hardware |
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jwagner |
Circ question -- a renewal should have the same time period as the original checkout, yes? If the checkout was two weeks, the renewal should also be two weeks? |
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wizzyrea |
not necessarily |
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jwagner |
I knew that was coming, sigh.... |
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wizzyrea |
some of our libs have 2 week checkout, 1 week renewals |
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jwagner |
What are the exceptions? |
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cait |
wizzyrea: how do they do it with koha? |
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wizzyrea |
well I'll have to look, gimme a min (gosh, I hope I'm not saying something crazy wrong here...) |
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cait |
jwagner: im even worse, I think renewal should only be allowed x days before the item is due... but this does not work with koha now |
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jwagner |
I'm not seeing any place to specify a time period for a renewal. |
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cait |
jwagner: I dont think its possible in current koha, but I saw a development lik that on biblibres git I think |
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jwagner |
We have some development along those lines too, but not on this particular system. |
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wizzyrea |
no, I stand corrected, there isn't a place to set that |
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wizzyrea |
i'm probably remembering the discussion that "we want to do this" "well we can't" |
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wizzyrea |
sorry, I'll be quiet now |
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cait |
yep, biblibre has a renewals period in smart rules |
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jwagner |
Aha! figured out the problem -- different circ rules between branches. Seems like the circ rule for the patron applied to the original checkout, but the circ rule for the library owning the item (different from patron) applied to the renewal. Much puzzlement. |
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jwagner |
Should it work that way? |
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wizzyrea |
yep, that's one we know of |
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wizzyrea |
no |
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wizzyrea |
there's a bug in bugzilla for it |
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wizzyrea |
I believe it's one of our pets |
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wizzyrea |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3378 |
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munin |
Bug 3378: major, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Renewal policy should match pickup library's policies |
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jwagner |
Yep, just found that one. Thanks. |
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wizzyrea |
oh, a patch even for head. Neat! |
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wizzyrea |
assuming that works, that one should be closed. |
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cait |
outlook-- |
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joetho |
jwagnor = I just checked the log for today and see you are working on my bug? |
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joetho |
I looked in bugzilla but didn't find it |
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joetho |
but I guess I wasn't looking for the right keywords |
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jwagner |
joetho, you just missed the discussion :-) Am responding now on the ticket. |
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joetho |
I read it on the log for this channel |
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joetho |
thanks Jane! |
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joetho |
but ... |
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joetho |
checking my notes for that... two other items renewed correctly, but they were from the patron's home library. I missed that! |
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cait |
@karma pianohack |
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munin |
cait: Karma for "pianohack" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
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cait |
@karma pianohacker |
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munin |
cait: Karma for "pianohacker" has been increased 29 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 29. |
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cait |
pianohacker++ |
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hdl |
@karma |
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munin |
hdl: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (156), "chris" (151), and "owen" (123). Lowest karma: "<!" (-59), "failed" (-40), and "-" (-26). You (hdl) are ranked 29 out of 911. |
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hdl |
@karma hdl |
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gmcharlt |
hi hdl |
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munin |
hdl: Karma for "hdl" has been increased 11 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 11. |
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hdl |
hi gmcharlt |
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hdl |
@karma hdl_laptop |
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wizzyrea |
oh that's just not right |
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munin |
hdl: Karma for "hdl_laptop" has been increased 59 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 59. |
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wizzyrea |
hdl++ |
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wizzyrea |
hdl_laptop++ |
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druthb |
@karma druthb |
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munin |
druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 36 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 36. |
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hdl |
wizzyrea: no ++ for free |
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druthb |
@karma jwagner |
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munin |
druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 37 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 37. |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt is going to have to pull his karma-merge trick for hdl and pianohacker |
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druthb |
ooo...better watch it, jwagner; I'm-a gunnin' for ya |
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wizzyrea |
no, it's for all of your hard work on the 3.0.x releases |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
which I'm sure I have had not appreciated publicly, but am very appreciative for |
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jwagner |
druthb: Harrumph! |
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druthb |
eep! |
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* druthb |
hides behind wizzyrea. |
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hdl |
wizzyrea: thanks then |
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owen |
Handy tool to use before you add color to the CSS: http://www.hextractor.com/ |
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wizzyrea |
oh that is neat |
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jwagner |
owen, looks interesting. You just paste in a snippet of css? You don't have to paste the whole file? |
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wizzyrea |
or point it to the website |
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owen |
jwagner: The use I see for it is to put in the URL of an existing file (or upload one) so that you can see the palette of existing colors. That gives you the opportunity to pick an existing color before adding a new one to the CSS |
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jwagner |
Somewhat related question -- is there any tool online that can look at an image file & say what the color is? If someone's trying to match, say, the masthead to an existing image? |
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owen |
Maybe this? http://www.colr.org/ I don't know how precise it is. |
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jwagner |
Looks like it lets you upload an image file -- could be very useful. Thanks. I'll try it out next time I have one of those. |
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chris |
morning |
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brendan |
morning |
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jwagner |
morning, chris |
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cait |
morning chris |
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chris |
wizzyrea: the download a dump feature is in wip branch |
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chris |
and only superlibrarians can do it |
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chris |
and it does just that, downloads a dump, not creates one |
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chris |
a cron job creates them nightly |
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chris |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]21f3713c09ef52b7d |
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chris |
personally i think it is essential to help avoid vendor lockin |
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* chris |
goes to catch his bus |
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nengard |
howdy chris |
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chris |
Hi from the bus |
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nengard |
gotta love smart phones :) |
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chris |
Yup |
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chris |
The windchill I love not so much |
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chris_n |
heya chris |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.6�C (12:57 PM PDT on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.4�C (9:58 PM CEST on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
light rain showers :) |
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chris_n |
ok, here's a quick and dirty fix for the local-use editor problem: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]10b131ecb30dfc6ab |
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chris_n |
if someone could abuse it a bit I'd be appreciative |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
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chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 6.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on July 13, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
Will look at work |
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owen |
I must have lost a branch somewhere along the way because I swear I've worked on this before... |
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chris |
larsw: got the ok for tonight so ill be there |
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* chris_n |
suggests looking in the wood pile for lost branches |
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larsw |
chris, excellent! |
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chris |
It only cost some vacuuming, laundry, dishes and lunch making :) |
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* chris_n |
recognizes that currency ;-) |
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chris_n |
it seems the exchange rate varies somewhat, though |
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chris |
I had some stored karma too :) |
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chris |
The trick is stay out of debt |
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chris |
The interest will slay you |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n++ # heh; yep, that should do it for the moment |
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cait |
:) |
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chris |
Yay chris_n |
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cait |
chris_n++ |
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* chris_n |
shrugs off his screaming 'efficiency oriented" conscience ;-) |
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chris_n |
and does the pragmatic thing |
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owen |
Pragmatically speaking, very efficient :) |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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hdl |
gmcharlt: Do you know why to_adress is not calculated at once when letter is enqueued ? Why do we have to wait to process letter in order to know who/which adress/which phone number we are sending the letter to ? |
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gmcharlt |
hdl: well, there's a mild argument for waiting until the queue is processed to determine the address, to guarantee that the most current address is used |
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gmcharlt |
but most important thing is ensuring that the address is determined in exactly one spot in the code |
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hdl |
well if it was only done in EnqueueLetter, this would be quite interesting since you would keep the adress you send the notice to in the database. And would be able to produce that to user in case of argument. |
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cait |
good night all |
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hdl |
and if process_message_queue is done once an hour, the argument about the "accurate" address is questionable. |
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hdl |
But I agree with you about "most important thing is ensuring that the address is determined in exactly one spot in the code" |
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jcamins |
Does anyone know anything about the merge_authorities.pl script described in the manual? |
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jcamins |
Specifically, what is its relationship to the merge_authority.pl script that's actually in 3.2? |
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hdl |
jcamins: ? |
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hdl |
should be about the same thing. |
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jcamins |
That's what I would've thought, but they seem to be about totally different things. |
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jcamins |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]manual/?ch=a11146 |
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jcamins |
If you go down to L.1.5.2, it says merge_authorities.pl is related to the dontmerge syspref. |
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jcamins |
But merge_authority.pl seems to take two authorities, and merge them into one. |
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nengard |
what was the question for me?? |
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jcamins |
What is the relationship between merge_authorities.pl (described in the manual) and merge_authority.pl. |
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jcamins |
Does the second replace the first, and, if so, how? |
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jcamins |
Oops. There was supposed to be a question mark tere. |
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nengard |
oh that's not a manual question :) i didn't know there was a new file - if there is a new file maybe i'm supposed to update the documentation ... what does the perl doc for each say? |
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nengard |
or is it a typo on my part? |
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jcamins |
I don't think it's a typo, because merge_authority.pl doesn't seem to have anything to do with dontmerge. |
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jcamins |
I can't find any merge_authorities.pl script at all, but there's still a dontmerge syspref. |
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hdl |
jcamins: there are two modes of processing authorities |
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hdl |
jcamins: and MergeAuthoritiesOnUpdate deplaced dontmerge system preference since dontmerge was negative. |
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jcamins |
Hm. I think maybe that was since 3.2-alpha1. |
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hdl |
merge_authorities can merge 2 different authorities (in fact replace the from with the to authority, it is not really a true MERGE since the from authority is replaced) |
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munin |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bugfix 3419: fixes typo in inequality. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]22f1159ebe41f0100> |
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hdl |
And it can also process all the authorities which Heading changed to copy that heading change into biblios |
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nengard |
hdl that patch wasn't pushed to 3.2 - the one replacing the system preference |
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nengard |
or if it was - it's not in HEAD cause mine still says dontmerge |
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nengard |
got to log out now - email me if i need to change the manual |
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jcamins |
hdl: I see, so that one script does two separate things? |
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hdl |
can do. |
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gmcharlt |
no patch removing dontmerge appears to have been submitted for HEAD |
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* chris_n |
takes bug 3756 off of gmcharlt 's list |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3756 blocker, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, new sys prefs - no way to add a new local use preference |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: no blockers stay off my list permanently ;) |
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* chris |
tests the commits, ill squash them and signoff and send them up, works a treat |
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chris |
bug 4310 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4310 blocker, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, No Migration for budgets from 3.0 to 3.2 |
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sekjal |
Paine snapshot is done, btw |
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gmcharlt |
sekjal: ? |
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brendan |
hi gmcharlt - think that was for me :) |
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sekjal |
the dreaded wrong window |
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gmcharlt |
figured as much |
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sekjal |
apologies all |
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chris |
patch sent |
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heh, just spotted a bug in my git_committer_email env variable, fixed |
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@wunder 28334 |
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chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 26.8�C (6:41 PM EDT on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Falling). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 458 in effect until 9 PM EDT this evening... |
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wonders if thunderstorms hold the clue to cloning |
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@wunder roulette |
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joetho: The current temperature in Jenkins Hill area, Coudersport, Pennsylvania is 21.6�C (7:20 PM EDT on July 12, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling). |
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whoa |
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roulette |
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used to be more exciting than THE WEATHER |
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hiya all' |
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Chris: I am about to enter the budgets for the 2010/2011 year into acquisitions. Do I enter 1 budget ie $200k, and then a bunch of different funds (Large print, Junior picturebooks etc) which together add up to $200k? |
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With my lack of knowledge and extensive hate for all things MARC I'm at a loss for an answer for this question but I'm hoping someone here can help |
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We have 508 and 586 records that are not searchable in koha but need to make that happen if possible. Anyone know what setting to change? |
