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jransom++ #great response to the negative comment |
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good morning äkoha |
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#koha |
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cait1 |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 24.2�C (9:27 AM CEST on July 10, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi chris |
| 08:13 |
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chris |
we dont have a 'i forgot my password' thing in koha eh? |
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cait |
no |
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cait |
but it would be a nice features |
| 08:13 |
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cait |
feature |
| 08:20 |
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chris |
yeah, i saw the evergreen devs talking about it,ill put it on the list |
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cait |
:) |
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chris |
only will work for ppl with an email address, but thats lots of people these days |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "mod_perl circ" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/25 |
| 08:29 |
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chris |
@later tell brendan http://paste.koha-community.org/25 |
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munin |
chris: The operation succeeded. |
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Genji |
with zebra, there is no way to return just one field instead of a whole record? |
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cait |
hi koha |
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chris_n |
heya pianohack (er) |
| 17:58 |
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pianohack |
Hi, chris_n |
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chris_n |
question about the systempreference table in light of the new editor |
| 17:59 |
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chris_n |
are the systempreference.options and systempreference.explanation fields still used? |
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chris_n |
or just variable, value, and type? |
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is hacking up some local prefs code |
| 18:05 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 32.0�C (8:00 PM CEST on July 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
chris_n++ |
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pastebot |
"chris_n" at 71.50.127.34 pasted "system preference types" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26 |
| 18:18 |
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chris_n |
chris, gmcharlt, whoever, are all of those types correct? |
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wonders about NULL |
| 18:19 |
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gmcharlt |
yeah, there shouldn't be a null type |
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chris_n |
and the blank as well |
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gmcharlt |
also, Upload isn't supported at present |
| 18:19 |
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chris_n |
should 'free' be capitolized? |
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chris_n |
capitalized even |
| 18:21 |
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gmcharlt |
doesn't matter, really, except for consistency |
| 19:19 |
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chris |
chris_n++ |
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cait |
hi chris |
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chris |
hi cait, watching the game? |
| 19:21 |
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cait |
uuh I forgot! |
| 19:21 |
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chris |
kahu is eating his breakfast then its time to take him to play football |
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cait |
remind him not to pick up the ball :) |
| 19:22 |
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chris |
hehe |
| 19:22 |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
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chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 4.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on July 11, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:23 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 29.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on July 10, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
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chris |
better wrap him up good, cold hands today |
| 19:23 |
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cait |
it was very warm today, but it seems like we wll get some rain tonight :) |
| 19:26 |
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chris |
rain in summer is good :) |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
yes |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
we were swimming today, it was great |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
but outside of the water it was hot |
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| 19:31 |
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Steven |
anybody there? |
| 19:31 |
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Steven |
i m unable to run fines.pl under crontab |
| 19:31 |
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chris |
do you get an error message? |
| 19:31 |
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Steven |
nope... |
| 19:32 |
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Steven |
is shown installing |
| 19:32 |
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chris |
what else is in your crontab, and do they run? |
| 19:32 |
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Steven |
but when the loan is overdue.....and when i check in tat time....overdue fines still remain zero |
| 19:33 |
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Steven |
this is my step to edit the crontab |
| 19:33 |
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Steven |
1. run terminal 2.type "crontab -e" |
| 19:34 |
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Steven |
key in "* * * * * usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl |
| 19:34 |
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chris |
um |
| 19:35 |
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Steven |
then i check out a book with selected date......then i changed the system date to make it overdue.... |
| 19:35 |
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chris |
its not desinged to be run continuously, just once a day |
| 19:36 |
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Steven |
i m just wondering should i need to modify fines.pl b4 i run it in crontab? |
| 19:36 |
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chris |
no |
| 19:36 |
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chris |
but you will need to set environment variables |
| 19:36 |
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chris |
look at misc/cronjobs/crontab.example |
| 19:36 |
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Steven |
enlighten me pls |
| 19:37 |
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chris |
and also, running it multiple times a day will result in bad behaviour, so once you get it running you certainly dont want to be doing that |
| 19:38 |
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Steven |
i have used the example given "5 1 * * * usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl" |
| 19:38 |
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Steven |
so which mean the fines.pl will run at 1:05am everyday, right? |
| 19:38 |
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chris |
yep |
| 19:39 |
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Steven |
ok.....and wat the meaning of fines grace day in circulation rules? |
| 19:39 |
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chris |
PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF are the 2 variables you need to set |
| 19:40 |
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chris |
thats how many days an item is overdue before a fine is applied |
| 19:40 |
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Steven |
ops....i put 14 days.....it is the reason fines.pl not working? |
| 19:41 |
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chris |
well, there could be lots, if you dont have those 2 variables set, it wont run |
| 19:42 |
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chris |
and yes if you have 14 it wont put a fine on for 2 weeks |
| 19:42 |
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Steven |
how to set the 2 variables actually? |
| 19:42 |
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chris |
did you look at that crontab.example? |
| 19:43 |
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Steven |
bcoz i dont really understand what is stated in crontab.example |
| 19:46 |
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Steven |
pls guide me step by step |
| 19:46 |
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chris |
i have to take my son to football, im running out of time |
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cait |
steven: normally you dont need to change the example |
| 19:46 |
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Steven |
just a simple step will do |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
you just have to get your configuration right and use the crontab as in the example |
| 19:47 |
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Steven |
anybody just guide me on it |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
have you set your conditions? |
| 19:47 |
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Steven |
so wat is the files tat i need to pre-configure actually? |
| 19:47 |
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Steven |
condition? |
| 19:48 |
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Steven |
i have set the circulation rules under system pref |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x3206#AEN3449 |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
you dont need to pre-configure any files |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
you need to have loan conditions with fines set up |
| 19:50 |
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Steven |
i have checked out a book with selected date.....then i change the system date to make it bcome overdue |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
and run the conjob once a day |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
ok, what is your grace period? |
| 19:50 |
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Steven |
i put it 1 day |
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cait |
ok |
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Steven |
fines day is wat? |
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cait |
fines interval? |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
dont use that if you use fines |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
leave it blank |
| 19:51 |
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Steven |
interval is 1 |
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cait |
its used by french libraries to suspend a user, its used instead of fines |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
no fine days set? |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
and check your sys prefs - search for fines |
| 19:52 |
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cait |
finesmode must be set to production to generate fines |
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Steven2 |
i m steven |
| 19:55 |
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Steven2 |
so is there anything set wrongly with my circulation rules? |
| 19:55 |
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Steven2 |
fines day leave it blank? |
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| 19:58 |
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Steven2 |
anybody? |
| 19:59 |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
leave fine day blank |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
but more importatn: administration > sys prefs finemode |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
set finemode to production |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
with your settings of fine interval 1 and grace period 1 you should get a fine 2 days after the due date |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
so if the due date is today, first fine is set on tuesday |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
the calendar can also be important, check for holidays and your syspref settings how to deal with that |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
a search for fine in the syspref editor will bring up the importatn settings |
| 20:02 |
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Steven2 |
so i have set "5 4 * * * usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl" |
| 20:03 |
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Steven2 |
so the fines.pl will run at 4.05am everyday? |
| 20:04 |
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cait |
Im dont know about the right setting, never changed them |
| 20:04 |
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cait |
ok, I dont know how the time setting in cron jobs work |
| 20:04 |
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cait |
I took them as they werw |
| 20:04 |
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cait |
and for testing i start fines.pl manually |
| 20:05 |
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Steven2 |
manually? |
| 20:05 |
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Steven2 |
u mean u click the file manually everyday? |
| 20:05 |
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cait |
no, for testing I start it manually, but in production we run it as a cron job |
| 20:06 |
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Steven2 |
so the fines only will be calculated once u check in? |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
no |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
koha generates fines by calendar, they are added to the account when the cron job is run |
| 20:08 |
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Steven2 |
just tested.....i m not sure the crontab run or not.... |
| 20:08 |
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Steven2 |
but the book shown overdue....but fines show nothing.... |
| 20:09 |
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cait |
what is the due date? |
| 20:09 |
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Steven2 |
due date is on 12/7.....i have change my system time to 15/7 |
| 20:10 |
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Steven2 |
i checked the patron summary....item is overdue...but fines column show nothing |
| 20:10 |
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cait |
have you set holidays in your calendarß |
| 20:10 |
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Steven2 |
nope....didnt set anything at all |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
finemodeß |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
finemode? |
| 20:12 |
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Steven2 |
production |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
ok, im out of ideas |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
that should work, perhaps something wrong with your crontab |
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| 20:13 |
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Steven2 |
what is the problem with my crontab? |
| 20:14 |
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Steven2 |
first time when i set the crontab.....there got some sample there like "# f d..... command" i delete it oriti |
| 20:15 |
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Steven2 |
so i replaced with my setting "15 4 * * * usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl" |
| 20:16 |
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Steven2 |
m i wrongly set? |
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cait |
sorry, battery low |
| 20:17 |
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Steven2 |
m i set wrongly? |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
? |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
I would check my settings by running fines.pl manually |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
If fines are set, you know everything is right in koha |
| 20:18 |
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cait |
and you just have to get the cronjob right |
| 20:18 |
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cait |
but its late here, time to sleep for me |
| 20:18 |
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Steven2 |
first time when i set the crontab...there got some sample like "# f d.... command " i deleted it oriti |
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cait |
I dont know much about the crontrabs |
| 20:19 |
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cait |
cron jobs... ok, really tired. |
| 20:20 |
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cait |
bye all |
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Steven2 |
anybody there can help me |
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magnus |
@later tell Steven there's a missing slash in your cron command, try something like "15 4 * * * /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl" - /usr/share... not usr/share... |
| 21:33 |
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munin |
magnus: The operation succeeded. |
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magnus |
in case he comes back or reads the log... |
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brendan |
afternoon #koha |
