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Genji |
hiya all. with tmpl engine is it possible to have a tmpl_var inside the name element of a tmpl_if? |
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Genji |
I'd want to do <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="jbranchid_<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="jbranchid" -->" -->checked<!-- /TMPL_IF --> |
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chris |
no |
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Genji |
how do i do something like this? |
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* robin |
has a few things that are waiting on the move to replace that template engine. |
| 02:21 |
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chris |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ranchprinter.tmpl |
| 02:21 |
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chris |
check out from about line 57 on |
| 02:56 |
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Genji |
oh, by the way, translation of arabic staff po file fails on koha 3.2 |
| 02:56 |
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Genji |
that is... tmpl_process3 segfaults. |
| 02:57 |
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robin |
Creating a koha installation the modern way: |
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robin |
robin kohadev:~$ time sudo koha-create --create-db newtest |
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robin |
... |
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robin |
real0m5.820s |
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chris |
:) |
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robin |
5.8 seconds from scratch :) |
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Genji |
impressive |
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Genji |
anyway, what would cause tmpl_process to segfault? |
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chris |
it wont be it segfaulting |
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chris |
it will be gettext |
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chris |
you have to work pretty hard to make perl segfault, the c libraries it use on the other hand |
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Genji |
what would cause gettext to segfault then? |
| 03:01 |
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chris |
probably a really long string or something |
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Genji |
hrm... |
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chris |
email me the .po file and ill test it |
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Genji |
its the one in the koha 3.2 distro. |
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chris |
easy then |
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Genji |
err... in Head? r master? |
| 03:02 |
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chris |
ill try it right now |
| 03:02 |
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chris |
master |
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Genji |
thanks. |
| 03:02 |
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Genji |
arabic - staff |
| 03:03 |
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chris |
ar ? |
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chris |
ar-Arab that is? |
| 03:06 |
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chris |
Creating /home/chrisc/git/koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab/xslt/compact.xsl... |
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chris |
Creating /home/chrisc/git/koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab/xslt/MARC21slim2RDFDC.xsl... |
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chris |
Creating /home/chrisc/git/koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab/xslt/MARC21slim2ATOM.xsl... |
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chris |
The install seems to be successful. |
| 03:06 |
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chris |
works for me |
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Genji |
hrm... |
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Genji |
Creating /home/mudrupal/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_007.tmpl... |
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Genji |
Segmentation fault |
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chris |
how much ram do you have on that box? |
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Genji |
total used free shared buffers cached |
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Genji |
Mem: 1034896 916600 118296 0 332300 264560 |
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chris |
wonder if thats it |
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Genji |
how much do i need for a small koha library anyway? |
| 03:15 |
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chris |
that'd be fine for running but that could be what is busting it |
| 03:15 |
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chris |
what version of Locale::PO do you have installed? |
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Genji |
how do i find that out? |
| 03:17 |
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chris |
Creating /home/chrisc/git/koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_007.tmpl... |
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chris |
Creating /home/chrisc/git/koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/ar-Arab/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/unimarc_field_123g.tmpl... |
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chris |
cos it certainly gets past there for me |
| 03:20 |
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robin |
That sounds a lot like running out RAM to me. |
| 03:20 |
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chris |
*nod* |
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chris |
i have 3 gig |
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Genji |
Locale::PO::VERSION 0.21 |
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chris |
yep, same |
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chris |
so yeah im suspecting ram |
| 03:23 |
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chris |
can you run top at the same time in another window, see if it runs out of ram |
| 03:25 |
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Genji |
goes from 113mb free to 98 mb free. |
| 03:25 |
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robin |
problem is, if there's a big malloc in there for some reason, it'll fail and gettext will crash if it doesn't expect it. |
| 03:26 |
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robin |
without obviously chewing up ram |
| 03:26 |
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Genji |
could it be something to dowith libxml? |
| 03:26 |
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chris |
ah true |
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chris |
nope, doesnt use that |
| 03:26 |
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chris |
heres something to try |
| 03:26 |
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chris |
move that file out of the en dir |
| 03:26 |
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chris |
and see if it does all the rest fine |
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Genji |
right.. cause my LibXML version and my libxml versions dont match... but all the tests succeded. |
| 03:27 |
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Genji |
hrmm... move 007 out/ |
| 03:27 |
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Genji |
? |
| 03:27 |
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chris |
yep |
| 03:27 |
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Genji |
kay... |
| 03:28 |
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Genji |
yea |
| 03:28 |
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Genji |
its just that one file. |
| 03:28 |
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Genji |
it installed fine. |
| 03:28 |
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chris |
so now you just have to figure out what is wrong with that file |
| 03:30 |
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Genji |
its huge? 300kb or so big.. |
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Genji |
5446 lines. |
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Genji |
329kb |
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chris |
yep, same here and yet it works fine |
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Genji |
hrm.. would you be able to email me the produced arabic template? |
| 03:42 |
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chris |
yep |
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Genji |
thanks |
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Genji |
chris++ |
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chris |
done |
| 03:45 |
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Genji |
huh.. doesn't appear to have any arabic in it. |
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chris |
it may not have been translated in the .po file |
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chris |
http://translate.koha.org/ar/intranet3_1/ |
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chris |
very little has been |
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Genji1 |
ah |
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Genji |
Its so difficult trying to get people to understand the upgrade path, and how its broken by editing the non-english templates... and what a headache it will cause me. |
| 03:57 |
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chris |
*nod* |
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chris |
tell me about it |
| 03:58 |
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chris |
theres a whole thread on the mailing list over the last 2 days, tyring to explain why straying off the path just makes a mess |
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Genji |
hmm.. Koha releases? |
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chris |
yeah |
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Genji |
im thinking i need to move all my koha lists to my gmail account, to get the cool conversation threading thing happening. |
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chris |
its not a silly idea |
| 04:05 |
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Genji |
cause following conversations by flat is horrible. |
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chris |
mutt does an ok job of threading |
| 04:06 |
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robin |
everything does threading these days, I think. |
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Genji |
my koha list is coming to my yahoo mail account |
| 04:06 |
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robin |
oh. That might be an issue, yeah. |
| 04:07 |
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chris |
ah yeah, everything except yahoo mail that is :) |
| 04:10 |
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Genji |
.. four to five years for LEK features to come into koha... |
| 04:12 |
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chilts |
lol |
| 04:12 |
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chilts |
if you're lucky :) |
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richard |
Genji, do you have to do anything special for zebra to index arabic text? |
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Genji |
just a few rules to transcode... but eh... they should be putting some stemming into the Search.pm stemming routine... but they're not. |
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Genji |
7 transliterate rules. |
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Genji |
i have no idea why .. i can't read arabic. don't know what they do. |
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richard |
:) |
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Genji |
you know arabic grammer, richard? |
| 04:17 |
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richard |
nope. we just had a query about zebra not working for chinese text and i was wondering if there were similar problems with other languages |
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richard |
other non-latin languages, that is |
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Genji |
ouch! |
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Genji |
"Today, someone from Liblime contacted me to explain that the estimate |
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Genji |
of 4 or 5 years as the time for the community to integrate such a |
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Genji |
large amount of code was a "humorous ad lib comment" rather than a |
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Genji |
serious answer to my question" |
| 04:22 |
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Genji |
translation.... someone from Liblime doesn't like the koha community. |
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cait |
hi koha |
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fredericd |
Genji: Do you succeed in handling properly Arabic language with Koha and Zebra? |
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cait |
good morning fredericd |
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fredericd |
hello cait |
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fredericd |
How is it in Germany today? |
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cait |
not sure, Im still at home hiding |
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fredericd |
Don't forget to look deeply affected |
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Genji |
by what? |
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cait |
:) perhaps I am deeply affected ;) |
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cait |
Genji: Germany:Spain 0:1 |
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Genji |
fredericd; apparently, its fine, they've got icu transliteration in place... |
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Genji |
oh.... oh.. uhh.... shouldn't of allowed Octopus oracle paul a say. |
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cait |
yeah, the octopus oracle was right |
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fredericd |
Genji: Is it documented somewhere? |
| 06:12 |
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Genji |
... no... people believed in the octopus.. and so it happened. |
| 06:12 |
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fredericd |
I could be tricky and would be nice to have it directly into Koha |
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fredericd |
octopus? |
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Genji |
fredericd: no, its not ducumented... i personally think its not enough to stem properly. |
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cait |
octopus oracle: http://www.spiegel.de/internat[…]18,704954,00.html |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
I think we used this for icu: http://spedr.com/5hwak but have made some changes to transliteration files |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
to find ü as ue and make search without diacritics possible |
| 06:15 |
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* Genji |
nods. "Arabic icu transliterate apparently does a bit of stemming. |
| 06:15 |
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fredericd |
Yes, Arabic is different and not so simple |
| 06:16 |
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fredericd |
That's why it would be intersting to gather what's have been done |
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thd is now known as thd-away |
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Genji |
fredericd: you know arabic grammer? |
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cait |
fredericd: I think some documentation would be really useful |
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cait |
fredericd: we use it for Hebrew |
| 06:17 |
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cait |
or better, we needed it because of our Hebrew records, German works fine withoug icu |
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fredericd |
Genji: I started and stopped few days later... |
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Genji |
fredericd: too complex? |
| 06:17 |
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fredericd |
yes and not enough time. But I will retry later |
| 06:19 |
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fredericd |
we have several projects with Catalogs containing a lot of Arabic biblio records. So we will have to improve that part of Koha-Zebra |
| 06:19 |
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fredericd |
Any feedback from others is welcome! |
| 06:19 |
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Genji |
there is a perl stemming module for arabic |
| 06:20 |
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fredericd |
cait: Could you consult the octopus about Koha 3.2 release date? |
| 06:20 |
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cait |
I think some search options dont work with icu or rtl languages |
| 06:20 |
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cait |
we had to deactivate some, I think the main problem is fuzzy |
| 06:20 |
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fredericd |
yes, same issue with any non-latin language |
| 06:21 |
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fredericd |
This issue is that Zebra ICU support is under-documented. |
| 06:22 |
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Genji |
oh... zebra truncation doesn't work with icuchain and rtl languages. |
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cait |
which severity for translation bugs? non-translatable strings in acq |
| 06:26 |
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cait |
no suggestions? :) |
| 06:27 |
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fredericd |
i would say minor |
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cait |
there are a lot in acq :( |
| 06:29 |
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cait |
ok, time for work, will be back later |
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cait |
bye fredericd and Genji |
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greenmang |
@wunder mumbai |
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munin |
greenmang: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (3:10 PM IST on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
hi, #koha. |
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magnus |
hiya druthb |
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magnus |
hiya jwagner |
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jwagner |
Hi magnus |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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jwagner |
Guten tag, kf |
| 11:42 |
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kf |
guten Tag jwagner :) |
| 11:42 |
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druthb |
hi, kf! :D |
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hdl |
hi magnus |
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hdl |
hi all |
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kf |
hi hdl |
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magnus |
hi hdl |
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kf |
hdl: do you know if it is possible to edit a basket? (before you close, print...) |
| 11:57 |
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magnus |
kf: sorry you havn't heard from me about nz travel plans - havn't got round to it yet... |
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kf |
I wondered about that yesterday |
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hdl |
kf: yes it should be. |
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kf |
magnus: no problem. But would be nice if cou can let me know once you got round .) |
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magnus |
kf: will do! |
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kf |
hdl: perhaps it was me yesterday. I created an order and wanted to check my settings, found no way to edit it |
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kf |
for example change the price, change the fund |
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kf |
oh, I just read nicole's mail on the mailing list |
| 12:00 |
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kf |
I think she has a similar problem |
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kf |
hdl: I have an acq presentation next week, trying to understand how everything works |
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owen |
munun: Please examine the entire Koha codebase and file a new bug for each "TODO" comment you find. Thanks buddy. |
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druthb |
Hi, owen! |
| 12:51 |
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druthb |
@quote random |
| 12:51 |
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munin |
druthb: Quote #18: "<pianohacker> nitpicking synergy FTW" (added by gmcharlt at 01:35 PM, July 24, 2009) |
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owen |
Hi druthb |
| 12:51 |
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owen |
I'm surprised munin didn't have a smartass comeback for me |
| 12:51 |
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druthb |
@eightball Do you have a smartass comeback for owen? |
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munin |
druthb: What are you asking me for? |
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druthb |
whoa. I just got *served* by a bot. |
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owen |
It's entirely appropriate for bots to serve us. munin: Get me a scone please. |
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druthb |
@roulette |
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munin |
druthb: *click* |
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druthb |
@roulette |
| 12:52 |
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munin |
druthb: *click* |
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druthb |
hm. |
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druthb |
@roulette |
| 12:52 |
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munin |
druthb: *click* |
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druthb |
@roulette |
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munin |
druthb: *click* |
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* druthb |
raises an eyebrow. |
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druthb |
@roulette |
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druthb was kicked by munin: BANG! |
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* munin |
reloads and spins the chambers. |
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druthb |
That's better. |
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imp |
:D |
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kf |
@roulette |
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munin |
kf: *click* |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.2�C (2:55 PM CEST on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). |
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imp |
@wunder hannover germany |
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munin |
imp: The current temperature in Hannover, Germany is 29.0�C (2:20 PM CEST on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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imp |
and no wind... |
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imp |
owen: it'll generate 284 new tickets ;) |
| 12:57 |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0�C (2:20 PM CEST on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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owen |
imp: We'll have munin use git blame to discover the author of the TODO note and assign accordingly |
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imp |
hehe :D |
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* owen |
wonders if munin has gotten started... Still don't have that scone... |
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druthb |
munin: Please bring me some wheat toast with a little orange marmalade, and a glass of OJ. |
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munin |
druthb: Error: "Please" is not a valid command. |
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* druthb |
chuckles. |
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gmcharlt |
munin: hop to it, people are waiting for their food |
| 13:01 |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Error: "hop" is not a valid command. |
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kf |
munin: icecream, now! |
| 13:02 |
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munin |
kf: Error: "icecream," is not a valid command. |
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kf |
ok, does not work, polite or impolite |
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druthb |
@karma munin |
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munin |
druthb: Karma for "munin" has been increased 8 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 5. |
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is a little bit confused right now |
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imp |
diff -u koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/tabview/tabview.js koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/tabview/tabview-debug.js |
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imp |
sounds like the path to maintenance hell... 2 files, nearly same content |
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imp |
and some day, somebody will change only one... |
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wonders if there is some way to get at the complete SQL statement that was actually run, after doing $sth=$dbh->prepare("SELECT * FROM items WHERE items.itemnumber = ?"); $sth->execute($itemnumber); |
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jcamins_a |
Good morning, #koha |
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kf |
hi jcamins_a |
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Fred |
Hello |
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owen |
Hi Fred |
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hdl |
magnus: maybe in mysql logs |
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Fred |
What to do if we find an error in a xsl stylesheet, i mean about reporting |
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hdl |
Fred file a bug on bugs.koha-community.org |
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magnus |
hdl: thanks, that was just too obvious for my poor brain... ;-) |
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hdl |
If you happen to know what the problem is propose a solution. |
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hdl |
magnus: mysql is not logging all transactions by default. |
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hdl |
You have to enable that. |
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magnus |
hdl: yeah, i'm just on a vm anyway, so i'll try that |
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Fred |
ok, for now i ve corrected it, but i am wondering about the origin of the error |
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owen |
Anyone up for a Perl question? If a script already has "use C4::Dates;," why would it complain about format_date being undefined? Is it always necessary to say "qw(format_date)" ? |
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Fred |
cause the error is inside a translated xsl file |
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kf |
Fred: what problem do you have? |
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Fred |
UNIMARCslimUtils.xsl in fr-FR version got a little error |
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druthb |
owen: It might not be EXPORTed from C4::Dates; I've seen that kind of behavior when that's the case. |
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Fred |
which error doesn t exist in en version |
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owen |
druthb: So the "use C4::Dates" makes *some* of what's in Dates.pm available, and adding the "qw(format_date) ensures that format_date is available as well? |
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kf |
Fred: strange, im not aware of translation text in utils |
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druthb |
correct. Anything that's the subject of an EXPORT in Dates.pm will be available for freebies, with "use C4::Dates". If you have some routine that is not EXPORTed, adding the "qw(format_date)" will guarantee it. You can also call non-EXPORTed routines the long way with: $foo = C4::Dates::format_date($params); |
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druthb |
That's my understandin' anyway. |
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owen |
Thanks druthb |
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Fred |
the error is just a nbsp who magically appeared |
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owen |
Hi wizzyrea_ |
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wizzyrea_ |
Hi owen |
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kf |
Fred: check your po files |
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kf |
Fred: I noticed that there are  s in pootle (translate.koha.org) |
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Fred |
ok i will check them to look for some other  s |
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Fred |
does it come from copy/paste? |
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Fred |
Sorry got to go, i will file a bug for that later |
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Fred |
Thanks for your answers |
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for some reason, the language selection div is not showing... |
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Genji |
in koha 3.2 |
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owen |
Genji: OPAC or staff client? |
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sees the language-selection footer in both the OPAC and staff client in his test system running HEAD |
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kf |
Genji: is opaclanguagedisplay on? |
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Genji |
yes, opac section - language display set to on. |
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kf |
and opaclanguages are selected? |
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Genji |
opac languages and intranet languages are both selected, and saved. |
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owen |
I notice my system preferences list opaclanguagesdisplay twice. I wonder if that is related. |
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owen |
Genji, can you try doing a search in system preferences for "opaclanguagesdisplay" ? |
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kf |
owen: there is a patch from nicole for that problem, but not pushed yet |
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owen |
If one was off and one was on which one would win? |
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Genji |
wheres opaclanguagesdisplay? |
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Genji |
err |
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Genji |
the search for/ |
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owen |
At the top of the page |
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kf |
owen: they work, just 2 entries |
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Genji |
only opaclanguagesdisplay at the top of opac section |
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owen |
Okay Genji never mind. kf is right--it just displays twice, it's not two which conflict |
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jcamins |
Does anyone have any idea why our catalog would say "1 suggestions waiting" when I'm in the acquisitions module, but when I click that link, none show up? |
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sekjal |
jcamins: that's a known bug, I believe |
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wizzyrea_ |
is it perhaps that you are logged in as the wrong branch? |
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wizzyrea_ |
like, if you log in as superlibrarian do you see it? |
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sekjal |
bug 4498 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4498 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Acq always shows '1 suggestions waiting' |
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jcamins |
Well, my user has superlibrarian. |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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wizzyrea_ |
ya, then it's not that. it's the bug |
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jcamins |
Okay, as long as I'm not doing something stupid. |
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magnus |
not my best koha day. been researching my koc-problem on a vm, and now suddenly i get "Syck parser (line 2485, column 14): syntax error at /usr/lib/perl5/YAML/Syck.pm line 71." hrmpf?!? |
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mib_071gn |
'lo all - any Authorities experts around willing to lend a hand? |
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hdl |
what kind of authorities ? |
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mib_071gn |
Well its more to do with the Authorities not being there when I try adding a new bib |
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mib_071gn |
in the Authorites link page |
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mib_071gn |
Author authorities |
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mib_071gn |
Anyone! |
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jcamins |
What is it you're trying to do? I don't really use authorities correctly, yet, but a second set of eyes might help. |
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mib_071gn |
When adding a new bib record and select the 245 tag $a I can click the "..." button to bring up another box........ |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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mib_071gn |
In this box I should be able to search for author authorites and link it to the new bib |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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mib_071gn |
whatever I search for in this box, the results are always 0 |
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mib_071gn |
even though there are authorities setup |
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jcamins |
You made sure that the authorities you're search for are the ones you entered in? |
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mib_071gn |
do you mean I made sure I searched for authorites that exist? |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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magnus |
i've never used authorities, but have you indexed them with something like "rebuild_zebra.pl -a"? |
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mib_071gn |
just gonna check my crontab now...... |
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kf |
magnus is right, you need -b -a for bibliographic and authority records - we use authorities .) |
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jcamins |
You could try running rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r |
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mib_071gn |
I am using -b -z -a in my cron - running every 2 mins |
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jcamins |
That will rebuild the authorities index. |
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jcamins |
Actually, we should probably check... are you able to search for authorities in the authorities screen? |
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mib_071gn |
Just checking........ |
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jcamins |
jwagner, kf: It turns out my problem with searching for diacritics was a misconfiguration on our part. ByWater got us a server set up, and the searches work exactly the way they should. |
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jcamins |
(yesterday we were trying to figure out why searches with diacritics didn't seem to bring up one record) |
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jwagner |
jcamins, good to hear. |
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kf |
jcamins: :) |
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mib_071gn |
OK, that zebra rebuild didn't make a difference - when you say search in Authorities Screen, where do you mean? |
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jwagner |
Hmmmm. If I turn the autoMemberNum syspref off (i.e., don't automatically generate patron barcodes), and import a .csv file that doesn't have a barcode (long story), is Koha going to choke? |
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kf |
More > Authorities |
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mib_071gn |
Thanks - that is also not working |
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kf |
hm, perhaps try and ran -a and -v for verbose |
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kf |
ran = run |
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kf |
to see if authorities are indexed |
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mib_071gn |
yeah, I did that when I ran it a minute ago, it does say it added records but doesn't say what they were, a lot of these errors too ----->>>17:15:12-08/07 zebraidx(22403) [warn] Index 'Heading-Main' not found in attset(s) |
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jcamins |
jwagner: barcode isn't the primary key (thank goodness!), so Koha should be fine. |
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kf |
mib_071gn: I think there is your problem, the index is not ok |
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mib_071gn |
Just looking at the bug database and it appears to be a bug (3072) - nightmare! |
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kf |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]ember/021216.html |
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kf |
not sure this is stil the problem |
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kf |
it works in our 3.1.61 - which is older thant he bug |
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mib_071gn |
do you mean 3.06? |
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kf |
no, we run a development version of 3.2 |
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jcamins |
mib_071gn: What version of Koha are you running? |
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kf |
sorry, I have to run, too late to be still at work |
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mib_071gn |
3.06 |
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kf |
bye all :) |
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jcamins |
mib_071gn: Did you try the fix that is described in that bug report? |
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mib_071gn |
just doing that now! will let you know....... |
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jwagner |
kf, thanks. We'll find out.... |
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jwagner |
Sorry, that was jcamins I needed to thank -- got confused on the screen. |
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jcamins |
Don't thank me yet... I could be wrong. |
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jwagner |
We'll have to do some experimenting. |
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owen |
Can someone remind me who is now hosting Bugzilla? |
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wizzyrea_ |
catalyst/linode, I believe |
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mib_071gn |
That fix didn't work for me. Is there any way to change index type from dom to grs etc? |
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jcamins |
I don't know, sorry. |
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jcamins |
We never got 3.0.x to work. |
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mib_071gn |
ok, thanks anyway! |
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druthb |
hi, pianohack and hdl! :D |
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cait |
hi all |
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druthb |
welcome back, cait. :) |
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cait |
:) |
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pianohack |
Hi druthb |
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collum |
@wunder 41011 |
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munin |
collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 34.9�C (1:35 PM EDT on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.8�C (10:36 AM PDT on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady). |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20817 |
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munin |
jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 34.6�C (1:40 PM EDT on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). |
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* jwagner |
doesn't speak Centigrade, but that's HOT |
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* collum |
has decided anything of 30 C is hot |
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druthb |
@wunder 79603 |
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munin |
druthb: The current temperature in ABI 5mi. true N of Downtown, Abilene, Texas is 28.6�C (12:37 PM CDT on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). Flash Flood Watch in effect from 7 am CDT this morning through Friday evening... |
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druthb |
Cooler in the west Texas plains than it is here. |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11105 |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 29.4�C (1:40 PM EDT on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 5 PM EDT this afternoon... |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0�C (7:20 PM CEST on July 08, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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jcamins |
Yay! It's not nearly so hot today. |
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collum |
jwagner++ and druthb++ Just for the heck of it. |
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fredericd |
jwagner: Reading mailing list... I should have prefered not to see my name embedded into your email :-( |
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jwagner |
fredericd, I can understand that, but your original message (with your name) went out to the list. I just quoted it. |
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fredericd |
It will be difficult now not to reply |
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jwagner |
Feel free |
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fredericd |
Even if it's what I'd prefer to do |
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* cait |
starts reading |
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* magnus |
finally figured out the koc-problem - bugzilla here i come! |
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jwagner |
Yay magnus! |
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magnus |
:-) |
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magnus |
chomp() seems to be leaving an \r at the end of the barcodes... |
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druthb |
thanks, collum! :) |
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pianohack |
magnus: Are these windows-style \r\n lines? |
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magnus |
pianohack: probably |
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pianohack |
magnus: All chomp does is remove the line ending on the platform you're running on |
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pianohack |
linux server, windows client? |
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magnus |
yup |
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magnus |
adding $command_line =~ s/\r//g; solves it |
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gmcharlt |
s/\r$//g; would be slightly more precise |
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pianohack |
magnus: You might consider just replacing chomp entirely with s/[\r\n]*$//g |
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pianohack |
No reason to have both, I don't think |
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magnus |
hm, i'm gonna have to just report the bug for now... |
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magnus |
i'll include your comments |
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cait |
hmpf. low battery. |
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* druthb |
hmpf-s back at cait. |
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cait |
ey, hmpf is mine :) |
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cait |
jwagner++ you make some good points |
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druthb |
Let's see...jwagner has "harrumph!", cait has "hmpf", and wizzyrea has assorted squee-ing sounds. Gonna have to find one all my own. |
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pianohack |
Are we trying to phase out patcheskoha.org? |
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cait |
:) druthb++ |
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pianohack |
Quick to type, but I know we don't admin it anymore |
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gmcharlt |
pianohack: koha-patcheslists.koha-community.org |
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pianohack |
Okay, that's what I thought, thanks gmcharlt |
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* gmcharlt |
is still looking for your missing "er" |
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jwagner |
cait, thanks. I try to stay out of discussions as a rule, but... |
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druthb |
@karma druthb |
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munin |
druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 35 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 35. |
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druthb |
@karma jwagner |
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munin |
druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 37 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 37. |
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pianohack |
Handy tip for anyone who only sends koha patches to the list: git config sendemail.to koha-patcheslists.koha-community.org |
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pianohack |
Skip some typing in git send-email |
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druthb |
hi, nengard! :D |
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nengard |
howdy |
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cait |
hi nengard |
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cait |
nengard: funny, I was asking hdl about editing baskets/orders the moment I saw your mail on the list |
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cait |
nengard: I was not able to edit an order - perhaps it has to do with item creation? but I think its a really bad thing. you can for example not find out which fund you chose, not all information from the order is shown on the screen after you saved. |
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nengard |
yea - it was a feature that has now disappeared |
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nengard |
i have to log off now though .. sorry |
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cait |
hm hope I did not scare her away :( |
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chris |
smorning |
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cait |
morning chris |
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pianohack |
good morning, chris |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
| 18:56 |
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pianohack |
wizzyrea_ or anyone else with koha on an ubuntu personal machine: do you have apache2 successfully starting on boot? |
| 18:56 |
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chris |
yes |
| 18:57 |
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pianohack |
Grr, okay. update-rc.d and dpkg-reconfigure have both failed to solve the problem, so I'll have to see if I can figure out what's what |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
If you're using regular Ubuntu, I seem to recall there being some GNOME control panel applet that does the trick. |
| 18:58 |
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chris |
i dont recall havng to do anything special on my laptop |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
I installed ubuntu with apache, mysql, ssh and it worked right from start |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
magnus: around? |
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magnus |
cait: a bit... ;-) |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
are you signed up for the road trip? |
| 19:02 |
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magnus |
yep |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
ah, ok. writing joann a mail now and asking if threre is room for one more :) |
| 19:05 |
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chris |
yay! |
| 19:07 |
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* druthb |
is off to catch the bus. |
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magnus |
cait: cool! |
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chris |
heh, its funny how we catch buses around the same time, me to work, druthb home :) we should punch in and punch out :) |
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cait |
:) |
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* jwagner |
thinks we should be careful about punching out :-) |
| 19:10 |
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chris |
magnus: sounds to me like the script is losing its db connection when processing, and not handling that cleanly |
| 19:10 |
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chris |
but thats just a guess without reading the code |
| 19:10 |
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magnus |
chris: could be, i'm afraid it's a bit above me |
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chris |
ill try to get some time today to look at it |
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magnus |
chris: very, very cool! |
| 19:13 |
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* magnus |
heads out to the little cabin in the woods again, for some more of that summer holiday... |
| 19:15 |
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chris_n |
pianohack: koha worked fine out-of-box on ubuntu here (several times in fact) |
| 19:16 |
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pianohack |
chris_n: Okay, so it's likely this laptop. Thanks, all |
| 19:16 |
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* chris_n |
hands pianohack a bigger hammer |
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pianohack |
Death to weird init bugs! |
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| 19:17 |
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pianohack |
chris_n: Actually, are you on one of these ubuntu machines at the moment? |
| 19:17 |
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pianohack |
I was just wondering whether anything showed up in daemon.log or similar when they got started |
| 19:17 |
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chris_n |
yup |
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chris_n |
om |
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chris |
pianohack: the main apache2 error log shows it starting |
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hdl |
cait: sawwhat you wrote at 20:49 |
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chris_n |
nothing in daemon.log |
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hdl |
mmmm... bad thing i think. |
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pianohack |
Bleh, will probably have to hack at this in single-user mode. Curse you upstart! |
| 19:20 |
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pianohack |
I might be running low on my curses and death for the day |
| 19:20 |
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chris |
heh |
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jwagner |
There are limits on curses? Rationing? |
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cait |
hdl: yes, if I dont missed something its bad |
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cait |
hdl: and should be repaired before 3.2 in my opinion |
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cait |
I wanted to do more testing today, but training session and travel plans for next week stole my time |
| 19:22 |
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hdl |
have you filed a bug? |
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cait |
wanted to test a bit more, perhaps with different settings for item creation |
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chris |
cait: id file the bug anyway |
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cait |
really tired today, but will try to file a bug later |
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chris |
cool thank you |
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chris |
then if i find anything i can update it |
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chris |
(the bug that is) |
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cait |
ok, let me first finish this mail |
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chris |
hopefully have a solution by the time europe wakes up again, or at least know where to start |
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chris |
:) |
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CGI745 |
Suddenly my Koha system won't let me search "history" and other specific words in the catalog. I had been able to search for these terms earlier in the day but now it brings up an error message. Any suggestions? |
| 19:29 |
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cait |
which error message? what koha version do you use? did you change something? |
| 19:29 |
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CGI745 |
Error: Can't call method "as_usmarc" on an undefined value at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 2384. |
| 19:29 |
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CGI745 |
I have Koha 3.01 |
| 19:30 |
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CGI745 |
The weird things is that it allows me to search other terms |
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jcamins |
Are you using Zebra? |
| 19:31 |
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wizzyrea_ |
745: that is usually a bad record |
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wizzyrea_ |
I would try to reindex and see if there are any errors, |
| 19:31 |
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* wizzyrea_ |
has seen this many times in our catalog |
| 19:31 |
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wizzyrea_ |
usually a full reindex fixes it |
| 19:32 |
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CGI745 |
I'm still pretty new at this and am not very computer savvy. How do I "reindex"? |
| 19:34 |
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wizzyrea_ |
usually it would be something like rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v |
| 19:35 |
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CGI745 |
I'm pretty sure we aren't using zebra |
| 19:36 |
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CGI745 |
Actually, I'm positive we aren't using Zebra |
| 19:37 |
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CGI745 |
Since I'm not using Zebra, I do not need to reindex. Correct? |
| 19:37 |
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jcamins |
Well, there's also a rebuild_nozebra.pl script. |
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wizzyrea_ |
no, I think that's incorrect |
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wizzyrea_ |
it would be rebuild_nozebra.pl -b or somesuch |
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CGI745 |
so should I input "rebuild_nozebra.pl script" from the command line? |
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wizzyrea_ |
right, it's located in misc/migration/tools |
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wizzyrea_ |
er migration-tools (sorry I'm not right in front of my install atm) |
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jcamins |
migration_tools |
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jcamins |
(I just checked) |
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wizzyrea_ |
^^ that, yes lo |
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wizzyrea_ |
l |
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CGI745 |
ok, I'll try that and be back in a few minutes |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea_: I'm impressed you got that close. I just know the directory as mi<tab>mi<tab> |
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wizzyrea_ |
hehe |
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cait |
:) |
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CGI369 |
So I was just on here as "CGI1745"... |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
perhaps choose a better name with /name |
| 19:51 |
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CGI369 |
I got down to migration_tools and input "rebuild_nozebra.pl" but it said "command not found" |
| 19:51 |
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wizzyrea_ |
you probably need to perl rebuild_nezebra.pl |
| 19:52 |
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CGI369 |
I tried that as well and it failed... |
| 19:53 |
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jcamins |
perl ./rebuild_nozebra.pl |
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wizzyrea_ |
can you be specific about how it failed? |
| 19:54 |
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CGI369 |
It said "Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC..." |
| 19:54 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 19:54 |
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jcamins |
You'll need to set your PERL5LIB and KOHACONF variables. |
| 19:55 |
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pianohack |
CGI369: What kind of installation did you do? The default? |
| 19:55 |
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jcamins |
When you installed Koha, it should have told you what to set them to. |
| 19:55 |
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wizzyrea_ |
^^ you'll need to set the ENV vars |
| 19:55 |
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CGI369 |
pianohack: I believe so |
| 19:55 |
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CGI369 |
jcamins and wizzyrea: how do I set those? |
| 19:57 |
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jcamins |
What is the result of running the command pwd? |
| 19:57 |
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pianohack |
CGI369: Does the directory /usr/lib/koha/C4 exist? |
| 19:57 |
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wizzyrea_ |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#18 |
| 19:57 |
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CGI369 |
jcamins: what is "pwd"? |
| 19:57 |
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wizzyrea_ |
print working directory |
| 19:59 |
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wizzyrea_ |
so, according to the faq, you would "export PERL5LIB=/path/to/koha" and "export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml" |
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pianohack |
Though you have to find out what those two paths actually are first |
| 20:00 |
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wizzyrea_ |
yep |
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CGI369 |
how do I find out wha the paths are? |
| 20:01 |
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jcamins |
pwd will tell you what the first is. |
| 20:01 |
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jcamins |
And the following will help you find the second: |
| 20:02 |
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jcamins |
find / -name koha-conf.xml -print |
| 20:02 |
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CGI369 |
"/home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools" is what came up for the first |
| 20:02 |
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CGI369 |
does that help? |
| 20:02 |
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wizzyrea_ |
ah a dev install |
| 20:02 |
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jcamins |
Yup. So the path to koha is /home/koha/kohaclone |
| 20:03 |
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CGI369 |
so the firs thing i should input at this point is "export PERL5LIB=/path/to/koha/kohaclone"? |
| 20:03 |
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CGI369 |
(*first thing) |
| 20:03 |
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jcamins |
export PERL5LIB=/home/koha/kohaclone |
| 20:03 |
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wizzyrea_ |
no quotes of course, but yes |
| 20:04 |
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wizzyrea_ |
^^ |
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pianohack |
CGI369: So your KOHA_CONF is likely in /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
| 20:04 |
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CGI369 |
Should I first scroll back up the directory to home? |
| 20:04 |
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wizzyrea_ |
so export KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
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jcamins |
CGI369: No need to return to home. |
| 20:05 |
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CGI369 |
After "export PERL5LIB=/home/koha/kohaclone", I input "export KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml"? |
| 20:07 |
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CGI369 |
(Sincere thanks to all of you for your patience and help) |
| 20:07 |
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CGI369 |
Is "export KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml" the next step? |
| 20:07 |
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wizzyrea_ |
yep |
| 20:07 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
| 20:08 |
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CGI369 |
So now should I try "perl rebuild_nozebra.pl" again? |
| 20:08 |
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wizzyrea_ |
yep |
| 20:09 |
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CGI369 |
looks like it worked! Now I'll check if that same error occurs when I search certain terms |
| 20:11 |
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CGI369 |
The error doesn't come up anymore! You guys rock! |
| 20:11 |
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wizzyrea_ |
yay! |
| 20:11 |
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CGI369 |
How often should I reindex in the future? |
| 20:11 |
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jcamins |
How many records do you have? |
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wizzyrea_ |
lol |
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| 20:14 |
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CGI369 |
I only have 9 records now but will have around 4000-5000 after I've input everything from our library |
| 20:14 |
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CGI369 |
So how often should I reindex with that amount? |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins |
My inclination would be to say "daily." |
| 20:15 |
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wizzyrea_ |
ok, you'll have to forgive me, I'm pretty sure on my nozebra system we have to run an index to have items show in the search |
| 20:15 |
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chris |
A totaly reindex, id cron it to run at midnight once a week |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins |
Is there an option for anything other than a total reindex? I've never used NoZebra, of course. |
| 20:16 |
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chris |
It indexes as it goes |
| 20:16 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 20:16 |
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CGI369 |
Ok. Often...daily or at least weekly. When I do reindex, do I only need to scroll down the directory to "migration_tools" and input "perl rebuild_nozebra.pl"? Or do I need to go through the other two steps first? |
| 20:16 |
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chris |
But a reindex stops searching while its done |
| 20:17 |
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chris |
So not at busy times :) |
| 20:20 |
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CGI369 |
The two earlier steps I'm asking about are "export PERL5LIB=/home/koha/kohaclone" and "export KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/et/koha-conf.xml"...do I need to input those two commands every time before I reindex w/ "perl rebuild_nozebra.pl" in the future? |
| 20:21 |
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pianohack |
CGI369: Add them to the end of /home/koha/.bashrc |
| 20:22 |
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CGI369 |
How do I do that? |
| 20:22 |
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pianohack |
chris: You're the perl guru; do circular dependencies cause those random within-module undefined sub problems? |
| 20:22 |
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pianohack |
CGI369: Run nano ~/.bashrc |
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chris |
Sometimes |
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chris |
They are bad in other ways |
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pianohack |
Right, memory leaks, architectural nastiness, etc. |
| 20:23 |
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chris |
Stop us doing persistance |
| 20:23 |
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chris |
Yeah |
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chris |
Chocolate fish for any u fix |
| 20:23 |
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pianohack |
Just wondering if that was the reason that you sometimes have to write C4::Module::sub instead of sub for no good reason |
| 20:24 |
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CGI369 |
pianohack: if I don't do what you suggest, will I simply need to input those two commands each time I want to reindex? |
| 20:24 |
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chris |
I think yes |
| 20:24 |
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pianohack |
CGI369: Yes |
| 20:24 |
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chris |
We should bug any circular dependencies we have |
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chris |
Cos for performance its crucial to fix |
| 20:25 |
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CGI369 |
So I should input "nano ~/.bashr" and then what? |
| 20:25 |
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pianohack |
Ah, nano ~/.bashrc |
| 20:25 |
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chris |
On bus so can't type good and stuff |
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pianohack |
There should already be stuff in the file |
| 20:26 |
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pianohack |
I don't care, I'm only a grammar nazi for myself and those who ask ;) |
| 20:26 |
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pianohack |
CGI369: Once you have the file open |
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pianohack |
Hold the down arrow until you get to the bottom of the file |
| 20:26 |
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pianohack |
Then add each one of the export commands on a new line by themselves |
| 20:28 |
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chris |
U up for showing crontab -e next pianohack? |
| 20:28 |
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CGI369 |
I can't see my cursor...I'm just going to exit and remember to input the other two commands before reindexing in the future. Can I do that? |
| 20:29 |
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pianohack |
CGI369: Yes, you can, though it sounds like something strange is going on |
| 20:29 |
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pianohack |
Oh, hey, I know |
| 20:30 |
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CGI369 |
pianohack: what is it? |
| 20:30 |
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pianohack |
Run echo -e 'export PERL5LIB=/home/koha/kohaclone\nexport KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml' | tee -a ~/.bashrc |
| 20:30 |
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CGI369 |
what does that do? |
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CGI369 |
do I need to exit out of nano first? |
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richard |
hi |
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jcamins |
It will add those two lines to the end of your .bashrc file. |
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chris |
Hi richard |
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jcamins |
Yes, exit nano. |
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CGI369 |
I think I'll just pass on that last step and just remember to input the two commands in the future...I don't want to get too confused or complicated. Thanks a ton to all of you though! |
| 20:35 |
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CGI369 |
What does reindexing actually do? |
| 20:35 |
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jcamins |
It creates the indexes that you're searching. |
| 20:35 |
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CGI369 |
Is it basically database maintenance? |
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CGI369 |
how do I exit bash without messing it up? |
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CGI369 |
It looks like I'm adjusting the bash code |
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jcamins |
Ctrl-X Ctrl-C |
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CGI369 |
Thanks. Thanks again for all of the help everyone. I'm sure I'll be back asking for help in the future |
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jcamins |
Good luck. |
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jcamins |
Should I have said something about NoZebra being deprecated? |
| 20:53 |
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cait |
hdl: Im really confused now - I see a link now to modify my order. not sure what differnt in this installation compared to my installation at work. will try to find out more tomorrow. |
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hdl |
cait: permissions, rights on the budget ? |
| 20:54 |
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cait |
hm, will check |
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cait |
but got a perl error before I saved... more tests needed |
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chris |
oh yes, that would make sense |
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cait |
filing a lot of bugs, just trying to get everything written down I see |
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chris |
thats great |
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chris |
bugs that turn out to be invalid, are no problem |
| 20:58 |
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chris |
they are much better than not reported ones |
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chris |
if you see what i mean |
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cait |
I hope so, dont want to make people get angry with me :) |
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chris |
who could get angry with you?? :) |
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cait |
oh, its really easy |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
but not trying to make that happen |
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chris |
heh |
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jcamins |
Apparently the script that I carefully crafted to install Koha on FreeBSD doesn't actually work on other computers. |
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chris |
jcamins: so it installs on precisely 1 freebsd machine? :) |
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jcamins |
So it would seem. |
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jcamins |
I guess I'll strengthen my note about not recommending FreeBSD for Koha on the wiki. |
| 21:14 |
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chris |
:) |
| 21:18 |
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cait |
hdl: edit links show as root, as superlibrarian without additional permissions and with all permissions. will check my user at work tomorrow for missing permissions. perhaps I forgot to add permissions after update - hope it can be solved that easily! |
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hdl |
cait: so do i |
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cait |
chris made me change my xml parser settings, hope that will kill the other error I saw |
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chris |
i am the xml dictator |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
bad news: error 500 page instead of parser error |
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chris |
check the error log |
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chris |
thats not really bad news, 500 errors are normally much easier to fix than 3rd party xml parsing errors :) |
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pianohack |
office_politics-- |
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cait |
bug 4955 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4955 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, adding to basket with no item throws error |
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cait |
same xml parser problem I think |
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sekjal |
goodnight, #koha! |
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cait |
good night all :) |
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chris |
night cait |
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pianohack |
jwagner: still around? |
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jwagner |
Yes |
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pianohack |
okay |
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pianohack |
Would you be up for increasing the pendingreserves range slightly, to 4 days ago to today? |
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pianohack |
I know the 10 years was excessive for large libraries |
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jwagner |
The default on the page? |
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pianohack |
And I'd rather not add yet another tiny syspref |
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pianohack |
yes |
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jwagner |
I was just going to write that I'd love this to be a syspref :-) so sites could control it themselves. |
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jwagner |
I have some large libraries that think even 2 days is excessive. |
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pianohack |
Hrrng okay |
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jwagner |
I'm all for giving sites as much control over the behavior as possible. |
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pianohack |
Less commits to rebase, right :/ |
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* jwagner |
isn't going there :-) |
| 22:02 |
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jwagner |
But we've talked at various times about moving some configuration out of individual sysprefs and into some kind of general module configuration. This would be another candidate for that kind of setup. |
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pianohack |
right |
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jwagner |
Trouble is (of course) the time to do it. |
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jwagner |
And even a configuration by library -- so branch A could have different settings from branch B |
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jwagner |
I think I'm envisioning something like a web interface (through staff client) to a .conf-type file. |
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pianohack |
jwagner: I just had a crazy idea |
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pianohack |
Are you in a crazy idea mode? |
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* jwagner |
cowers in fear |
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jwagner |
Go for it (my bolder side says)! |
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pianohack |
Have it, by default, show holds that have appeared since the last time the report was run |
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pianohack |
It would still have date granularity, so if the report was last run today, it would still show today's holds |
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pianohack |
It automatically adjusts for small libraries like ours that run the report weekly, and huge ones that run it twice a day :) |
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jwagner |
Oh, YES -- I think that would be the best solution. But I don't work in a library & run this myself in a work environment, so I'd pass that idea by some other folks for comment too. |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea_, you online? What would your libraries think? |
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wizzyrea_ |
which report is this? sorry I haven't been following all too closely |
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jwagner |
Holds to pull -- we're talking about the default date range. |
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wizzyrea_ |
ohhh... we don't use that one, we use the hold queue and the holds awaiting pickup reports |
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jwagner |
I had sent a patch a long time ago to change the default date range from 10 years to 2 days (1 day? I forget). pianohack wants a longer range for his library. |
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jwagner |
Any other large libraries online? May need to float the idea in different time zones for feedback. |
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wizzyrea_ |
well I think that making it configurable is a good idea (just scrolled back) |
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pianohack |
wizzyrea_: what do you think about since-report-last-run, just off the top of your head? |
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wizzyrea_ |
I don't feel like I can speak to that from a practical standpoint, since we don't use it :/ |
| 22:18 |
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wizzyrea_ |
theoretically it seems like a good idea |
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jwagner |
pianohack, out of curiosity, how would you do that? Set a flag somewhere on the server? |
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pianohack |
ahaha, well, there's the rub |
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pianohack |
A hidden syspref would be nice, but is global for all libraries and staff |
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jwagner |
It can't be a cookie or something on the workstation -- different staff at different desks can run this. |
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wizzyrea_ |
yea, and which last run |
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wizzyrea_ |
say you have 3 circ computers |
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pianohack |
Probably per-library is best; it's not so much that they were seen as that they were seen and assumed to be dealt with |
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jwagner |
Hmmm. How about some kind of specially formatted entry in the sessions table? Would that confuse the system? |
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jwagner |
Maybe something like Holds-BRANCH with the timestamp? Wouldn't work if you're running druthb's cleanup script on the sessions table every night, though. |
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jwagner |
(meaning it wouldn't work if you didn't run the report every day) |
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pianohack |
maybe just set a column on the branches table |
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pianohack |
I'll send a patch, and if it bounces, I'll revise :) |
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jwagner |
That might work. |
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jwagner |
I'm not logged into a system right now & can't remember -- do you have to select a branch when you run the report? |
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pianohack |
jwagner: Do you have independentbranches turned on for your libraries? That's the only time it filters out separate branches at all |
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jwagner |
I have it for some sites, not for others. I'd have to go look on those servers & see what it does for multilibrary setups. |
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jwagner |
Ping me tomorrow if you want me to check |
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pianohack |
k, thanks for your help |
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jwagner |
no problem -- sounds like a good improvement |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Fixes Bug 4978: longoverdues.pl claims undefined subroutine ModItem <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]051d937a4a14ba742> |
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