IRC log for #koha, 2010-06-22

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00:47 chris hi brendan
00:47 brendan heya chris
00:55 gmcharlt_ hi brendan
00:56 brendan hi gmcharlt_ - see you at ALA in a few days :)
00:56 gmcharlt_ indeed
00:56 gmcharlt_ how's the booth looking?
00:57 brendan great - that's all Nate's department
00:57 brendan no big tree though ;)
00:58 gmcharlt_ heh
00:58 gmcharlt_ no big tree for us either, this time
01:05 brendan how am I going to find you all?
01:05 brendan I guess I'll have to rely on booth numbers
01:14 chris :)
01:14 chris gps
01:16 wasabi i'm in the middle of a tricky zebra issue...
01:18 wasabi ... trying to work out why a title-search on a single chinese character, returns a result *without* that character in the $TITLE string
01:19 wasabi ahh, its a subtle mapping issue, in the zebra *chr* files
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01:24 chris wb wizzyrea_
01:29 wasabi hmmmm, it looks like 'å®®'  gets mapped to '中'  in the zebra *chr* files
01:30 * wasabi finds the needle in the haystack...
01:31 wizzyrea_ ty ty
01:35 reed robin is the king of freaky unicode issues, he might can help
01:35 reed (at least he seems to be able to generate a lot of them)
01:44 wasabi heh, thanx reed
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02:36 wasabi hmm, the zebra-searching issue continues...
02:37 wasabi i'm testing on a small 500 bib set
02:38 wasabi and a title-search for '中' returns 3 results
02:39 wasabi one result's title is simply 'Favourite Philippine folk songs [sound recording]'
02:39 wasabi why zebra returned that result is a mystery to me
02:40 chris you have totally flushed the index, ie, dropped and recreated it?
02:40 wasabi yep '  -r -b -v -x'
02:40 wasabi -r is reset
02:41 chris sometimes, not always, it doesnt work
02:41 wasabi aaah
02:41 chris[…]/faq/searching/#5
02:42 chris might not fix anything, but might be worth a try
02:42 wasabi very nice
02:42 wasabi ok, ill retest, doing that
02:49 wasabi still no change - for now.. :/
02:49 chris dang
02:52 wasabi[…]dx=ti&q=%E4%B8%AD
02:52 chris i see why the middle one matches
02:53 wasabi yah ;) , but the other two... ?!
02:53 chris theres not something else in the marc .. thats not viewable in the web view, ie, have you checked the marcxml ?
02:53 wasabi zebrasrv says....
02:53 wasabi zebrasrv(46) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x019)(\xE4\xB8\xAD.*)
02:54 wasabi yes, i generally eyeballed the marcxml
02:54 chris ok
02:55 chris is it that *
02:55 wasabi but not for records 1-3 yet..
02:55 chris in your options
02:55 chris try turning stemming off?
02:55 wasabi aah, click
02:56 wasabi zebra's doing clever stemming/fuzzy stuff ?
02:56 chris thats my guess
02:56 chris you should be able to turn that off in sysprefs
02:56 wasabi yeah, makes sense
02:57 wasabi ta, ill do that now..
02:57 chris good luck
02:58 wasabi thanx again for the brain-slap!
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03:00 Amit heya chris
03:00 chris hi Amit
03:04 wasabi ive flicked OFF QueryStemming, QueryWeightFields, QueryFuzzy sysprefs
03:05 wasabi still the same 3 results
03:06 wasabi and still the same search-request to zebra
03:06 wasabi 15:12:12-22/06 zebrasrv(55) [log] dict_lookup_grep: (\x019)(\xE4\xB8\xAD.*)
03:06 wasabi 15:12:12-22/06 zebrasrv(55) [request] Search biblios OK 3 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=4 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 中
03:06 chris im out of ideas
03:06 wasabi yeah, me too - for now at least
03:07 wasabi at least it's an easy to replicate search-glitch
03:08 wasabi which means more people can observe/poke at it
03:17 * wasabi waves at amit
03:17 Amit heya wasabi(mason)
03:17 wasabi ;) back from your holiday ?
03:24 Amit yes
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04:30 pianohack 'night!
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06:15 brendan @roulette
06:15 munin brendan: *click*
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06:50 kf good morning #koha
06:54 magnus good morning kf et al
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06:58 kf good morning magnus
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06:59 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
06:59 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (8:50 AM CEST on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
06:59 magnus @wunder tromso, norway
06:59 munin magnus: Error: No such location could be found.
06:59 magnus @wunder tromsoe, norway
06:59 munin magnus: Error: No such location could be found.
06:59 magnus hm
06:59 fredericd @wunder paris, france
06:59 munin fredericd: The current temperature in Paris, France is 13.0�C (9:00 AM CEST on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
06:59 fredericd hello magnus
07:00 magnus @wunder oslo, norway
07:00 munin magnus: The current temperature in Harestua, Harestua, Norway is 18.9�C (9:00 AM CEST on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Steady).
07:00 magnus hello fredericd
07:01 kf hi fredericd
07:01 kf @wunder Konstanz
07:01 munin kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 13.0�C (9:00 AM CEST on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
07:01 kf hm perhaps no rain toda
07:01 kf y
07:02 kf does someone know what mantis is?
07:03 kf ah, googled it. biblibre's bugzilla.
07:03 magnus yep
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07:48 chris evening
07:50 kf hi chris
07:52 magnus hiya chris
07:52 magnus looks like you will have plenty to do as RM... ;-)
07:52 chris heh
07:52 chris yup
07:53 chris ill be leaning on others to help too
07:53 magnus good!
08:02 chris ill be trying to use it to show people how i use branches etc as well, which with git, like perl, is just one way to do it
08:02 chris but it might be helpful
08:14 kf hmpf
08:14 chris ?
08:15 kf sorry
08:15 kf writing on a sql report
08:17 kf fighting with joins, hmpf is my harrumph
08:18 chris ah
08:20 kf a report with dates of fines and notices for a borrowernumber
08:20 chris cool
08:23 kf not yet
08:23 kf I wanted something to get a quick overview for testing
08:26 chris what bit are you stuck on?
08:28 kf im quite at the beginning, but thx :)
08:28 chris :)
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08:30 hdl Hi all
08:30 GuruAhuja Greeting to all Koha Members
08:32 kf hi hdl and GuruAhuja
08:32 GuruAhuja can any one help me with the installation and implementation of koha
08:34 hdl have you tried debian packages install ?
08:35 GuruAhuja not yet
08:35 chris
08:35 GuruAhuja can you give me the line for the same
08:36 Amit heya guruAhuja
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08:58 GuruAhuja hi Amit
08:58 GuruAhuja how are you
08:58 GuruAhuja seems another Indian there
08:58 Amit yes
09:00 GuruAhuja Amit ur location please
09:00 Amit Bangalore urs
09:04 GuruAhuja Chandigarh
09:04 GuruAhuja have you deployed Koha
09:04 Amit y
09:06 GuruAhuja that means you can help us
09:06 GuruAhuja I have just started to do so.
09:10 GuruAhuja can pls you help
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11:21 chris hi jdavidb
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11:22 jdavidb hi, chris! :D
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11:29 kf hi jdavidb
11:30 jdavidb hi, kf!  :D
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11:40 kf hi jwagner
11:41 * jdavidb waves at jwagner
11:41 hdl hi all
11:43 jwagner Morning, all.
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11:45 chris_n g'morning
11:49 Nate morning chris_n!
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11:55 magnus good morning us of a
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12:40 owen Hi #koha
12:43 jdavidb hi, owen!  :D
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14:16 kf hm
14:16 kf I cant save a new notice in head - can someone perhaps confirm?
14:16 kf I have no error message in koha-error.log
14:18 kf ok, I thinkt here is a problem when you change the module for the notice
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14:32 * chris_n checks in to see if anyone is awake
14:33 * owen is awake but in Drupal-land again
14:34 sekjal if I'm still asleep, this is the most realistic work dream yet
14:35 kf not asleep, playing with selenium ide
14:53 chris_n @wunder 28334
14:53 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 34.0�C (10:56 AM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady).
14:53 chris_n bad day for the ac to break down
15:13 jdavidb @wunder 20817
15:13 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 31.3�C (11:20 AM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising).
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15:26 * collum is also in Drupal-land basking in the rays of Solr
15:27 * jwagner feels all lonely, stuck in the real world of DC-area heat and humidity. No Solr fun....
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16:22 jwagner @quote random
16:22 munin jwagner: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 04:23 PM, June 19, 2009)
16:27 chris_n @quote random
16:27 munin chris_n: Quote #24: "<kmkale> interesting word munin. in many indian languages we have a word munim who used to be a sort of accountant for all businessmen" (added by gmcharlt at 10:07 AM, August 07, 2009)
16:32 schuster jwagner - schuster feels your pain...
16:32 schuster wunder 75074
16:34 schuster @wunder 75074
16:34 munin schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 35.6�C (11:30 AM CDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.38 in 994.8 hPa (Steady).
16:45 jwagner schuster, whose bright idea was it to have August heat and humidity in June???
16:45 schuster Not mine - we've been running almost 100 degrees since June 2nd.
16:46 brendan @wunder 93117
16:46 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.5�C (9:52 AM PDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising).
16:46 * brendan goes to grab a sweater ;)
16:46 collum @wunder 41011
16:47 munin collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 30.7�C (12:50 PM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling).
16:47 collum perfect
16:47 jwagner Harrumph.
16:47 * jwagner goes off to see if lunch will improve the day :-(
16:50 * collum unfortunately can't see the weather from his basement bunker
16:53 schuster brendan don't make me slap you through the monitor...
16:54 schuster jwagner sounds about right for me too...  working 7-5:30 to have fridays off makes for a long day!
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17:02 kf by äkoha
17:02 kf #koha
17:03 kf ok, again: bye #koha
17:03 kf really time to go :)
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17:28 * jwagner is still grumpy :-(
17:30 * pianohack gives jwagner food
17:30 pianohack That's my way of staying happy
17:31 pianohack Which reminds me
17:31 * pianohack goes and heats up some pizza
17:31 jwagner mmmmmmm.......
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18:10 Mathieu Hi everyone, looking for help on displaying remainder of title in opac aside the title. First part of title is 245a then remainder 245b. Right now opac only displays the first part of the title, even in detail view
18:19 jwagner Mathieu, what version of Koha, and are you using XSLT for the display?
18:20 Mathieu Version is alpha2, xslt is enabled for the detail view
18:20 Mathieu field displays in marc view but not in normal
18:21 brendan[…]?ch=x3651#AEN3887
18:21 brendan that should do the trick for you
18:21 Mathieu perfect thats what I was looking for, thanks
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18:47 cait hi #koha
18:49 jdavidb hi, cait! :)
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18:56 |Lupin| hello there
18:57 cait hi jdavidb
18:57 cait hi |Lupin|!
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18:58 cait now i have scared him away :)
19:00 |Lupin| hi cait :)
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19:10 reva chris_n: hello again from Antigua; have a quick question: When I was trying to use the demo for Koha provided by Liblime, I was not able to value in the author field. This happened once before and I found the solution on the forum from someone who had the same issue. As far as I can recall I had turn something on (or off) in the Admininstration part of the demo. Would you know, or could you find out from someone there, please? Thank
19:15 chris_n reva: it sounds like an syspref dealing with authorities, however I"m not sure about the demos by LibLime and I don't have any association with them so you'll have to find out from them from another route
19:15 chris_n sorry
19:19 reva chris_n: ok thanks, Your answer seems correct about turning some option on in Authorities. I searched for the same solution I found about a month back, but I am not stumbling upon it today:(. Just to let you know, we at the Antigua and Barbuda Bureau of Standards have opted to go with a Koa Live CD install:). Hope all of that will go well for us.
19:20 cait reva: there is a koha demo available at bywater solutions too and I think you can perhaps find your answer in one of the faqs on the site
19:21 reva cait: thanks for the info. I will try bywater faq and see.
19:21 cait different things, give me aminute
19:22 cait there is a link to the demos at
19:22 cait Im not sure which version the demos at liblime are, but perhaps you want to compare
19:23 cait and the faq is here:[…]faq/cataloging/#7
19:23 wizzyrea_ with LibLime Enterprise Koha build: 4.0100009
19:23 wizzyrea_ is what their demo says
19:23 wizzyrea_ so not really koha at all, strictly speaking.
19:23 reva cait: I was using the express staff client demo. Ok thanks for the ready link, I will try it now.
19:24 wizzyrea_ express is
19:24 wizzyrea_
19:25 wizzyrea_ which would be an older stable release
19:26 sekjal the demo hosted by ByWater Solutions is running version
19:26 sekjal I should really update that... I'm three db revisions behind
19:27 brendan I think I just updated it two days ago
19:27 wizzyrea_ hehe
19:27 sekjal nice, thanks brendan
19:28 pianohack Hahaha, our stable is still on .041
19:28 pianohack Just barely beating out LibLime!
19:28 wizzyrea_ heh
19:28 wizzyrea_ ours is only slightly ahead of LEK
19:28 wizzyrea_ it's like, the LEK jumping off point
19:29 pianohack well, you have a... reason
19:29 wizzyrea_ heh
19:29 pianohack Until I got started on an earnest attempt to get everything submitted for our next koha supporter's sake this last month, I hadn't touched our install in months
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19:30 pianohack Too many fast-coded, fragile modifications that broke after the last insufficiently tested rebase
19:30 wizzyrea_ really interesting discussion on the dev list re: the biblibre/co-op situation
19:30 wizzyrea_ interestingto watch
19:34 chris_n interesting and good imho
19:34 cait but a lot of work to do for 3.4
19:34 reva chris_n and cait: yeah, setting BibAddsAuthorities to ON lets me enter the Person Name, etc. in their fields. Thanks.
19:34 cait reva: :)
19:34 chris_n reva: cool
19:35 * chris_n wonders if the underscore following one's nick is the latest irc fad
19:35 wizzyrea_ meh
19:35 chris_n is now known as chris_n_
19:35 wizzyrea_ ;)
19:35 wizzyrea_ is now known as _undersco
19:36 _undersco is now known as ___
19:36 chris_n_ hehe... and you're at the top of the list
19:36 ___ there we go
19:36 chris_n_ is now known as _chris_n
19:36 ___ showoff
19:36 ___ is now known as wizzyrea_
19:36 _chris_n is now known as chris_n
19:36 wizzyrea_ is now known as wizzy
19:36 wizzy is now known as wizzyrea
19:36 chris_n lol
19:37 chris_n @wunder 28334
19:37 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 34.8�C (3:29 PM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 9%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Falling).
19:37 wizzyrea Interesting that the | doesn't have the same effect as the _
19:37 chris_n yeah
19:39 chris_n I think the biblibre/co-op problems have good solutions and hashing through them will help avoid similar problems in the future
19:40 chris_n they are good growing pains
19:40 wizzyrea well there are applications there for every support provider, I think
19:40 wizzyrea and situations I think they all have gotten into, give or take
19:40 chris_n and I think they are to be commended for their transparency
19:40 wizzyrea ya, I like that
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20:06 |Lupin| hey Liz
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20:29 chris morning
20:29 cait morning chris :)
20:29 wizzyrea is da chris, good morning
20:30 |Lupin| hello chris :)
20:31 chris hiya |Lupin| ltns .. how are things?
20:32 chris_n heya chris, |Lupin|
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20:34 richard hi
20:34 chris hi richard
20:34 brendan @wunder 93117
20:34 richard hi chris
20:34 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.3�C (1:38 PM PDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling).
20:34 brendan heya all
20:34 richard hi brendan
20:35 |Lupin| chris: things go very well, thanks a lot. Very nice life. HOpe things go well for you too ?
20:36 chris most of the time yep :)
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20:52 |Lupin| chris: how are the children ? you have several of them, haven't you ?
20:54 chris yep i have 2 of them, one 3.5 and one 1 year old they are doing well
20:54 |Lupin| chris: ok, that's nice to read
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21:33 zevlag I've inherited 5 koha servers, and I'm just inventoring my systems, and it looks like we are running version, I see at that latest release is 3.0.6, so I'm not sure where my version fits in.
21:34 cait 3.01 is means that your install is not a released stable version but an install from master branch for 3.2
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21:36 zevlag *nod*
21:36 zevlag how stable is the 3.2 branch/trunk?
21:37 chris pretty stable, it is due for a beta release soon
21:37 cait we are in production with
21:38 cait and its pretty stable
21:38 chris the latest version is (i think)
21:38 zevlag ok
21:39 zevlag Are upgrades as simple a 'git pull'?
21:39 zevlag how are datbases changes managed?
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21:40 chris it will automatically spot the version has changed and redirect you to the webiinstaller where it can upgrade
21:40 chris of course, do not do this on a production system
21:40 chris without testing it first :)
21:42 zevlag *nod*
21:42 zevlag where is the best documentation on koha? seems to be dead
21:43 chris yeah all the
21:43 chris and
21:44 chris_n @wunder 28334
21:44 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 33.0�C (4:41 PM EDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
21:47 chris_n Catalyst++
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21:49 chris having_a_dedicate_qa_team_at_your_work_place++
21:55 cait chris++ catalyst++
21:58 chris richard: is si about?
21:59 chris just made a change to the ircd config and was going to bounce the server
21:59 richard he's just leaving for work - will give you a call
21:59 chris cool
21:59 chris thanks
22:00 chris i just wanted to check doing so would be ok
22:00 richard he says ok
22:00 chris cool thanks
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22:03 chris ah munin isnt back yet ;)
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22:05 chris @wunder 56001
22:05 munin chris: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 32.3�C (5:11 PM CDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 28.89 in 978.2 hPa (Falling).
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22:07 moodaepo chris: graci munin must have got annoyed at the awesome weather brendan keeps getting
22:08 chris heh, no i restarted the irc server
22:08 chris just to up the max connections allowed
22:08 moodaepo What was it set to?
22:09 larsw too many connections? everyone using bip or screen?
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22:09 brendan @wunder 93117
22:09 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.1�C (3:13 PM PDT on June 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling).
22:09 brendan eat that :)
22:10 brendan the weather he is kind of boring though (really)
22:10 cait @wunder Konstanz
22:10 brendan s/he/here
22:10 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0�C (12:00 AM CEST on June 23, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
22:10 * moodaepo gets to taste it in 10 days : )
22:10 brendan sweet
22:10 moodaepo brendan: you are in Santa Barbara right?
22:11 brendan yes
22:12 chris larsw: too many per ident response, and since no one runs identd anymore .. :)
22:12 moodaepo Flying in to LA just so I can drive up to Portland and do the 101.
22:13 chris moodaepo: we did that on our honeymoon
22:13 chris started in seattle though
22:13 chris it is a great trip
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22:13 larsw if I could stomach driving in the US, I might want to drive LA-Portland in July, hmm
22:14 chris[…]hp?g2_itemId=1233
22:14 moodaepo chris brendan: tips suggestions mail to (name is on the /whois)
22:14 chris go to coos bay
22:15 brendan how long do you have?
22:16 chris we also cut inland to go to yosemite park, that was worth it if you have time
22:16 moodaepo Reaching LA 2nd evening/night probably take off on the 3rd return flight is on the 10th
22:16 brendan and sequoia is out of this world too
22:17 chris oh yeah, and the redwoods
22:17 brendan so 7 days to make a round trip
22:17 moodaepo Been to Glaciar/Yose when I did the trip from Chicago to Neah Bay WA
22:17 moodaepo oops Glacier
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22:18 brendan if you spend a day in LA - disney is worth it
22:19 * moodaepo hates crowds
22:19 chris[…]hp?g2_itemId=1611
22:20 moodaepo chris++
22:21 chris larsw: it is a fun drive, and beautiful too
22:21 chris i only freaked out driving in the cities ;)
22:21 brendan I'd say drive the big sur, stop in monterey (clint eastwood was the mayor there), redwoods and then spend time going up the oregon coast nice and slow
22:22 chris yeah, astoria is really nice too
22:22 chris watch out for the goonies though!!
22:22 brendan right next to monterey is castroville (the world capital of artichokes) - if you like artichokes stop there for some good eats
22:22 brendan goonies++
22:23 brendan @karma goonies
22:23 munin brendan: Karma for "goonies" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
22:23 brendan nice I was beaten to the punch
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22:30 brendan @roulette
22:30 munin brendan: *click*
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22:35 cait @roulette
22:35 munin cait: *click*
22:35 cait @roulette
22:35 munin cait: *click*
22:35 cait @roulette
22:35 cait was kicked by munin: BANG!
22:35 * munin reloads and spins the chambers.
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22:45 brendan bye cait
22:46 chris heh
22:46 moodaepo brendan chris: many thanks
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