IRC log for #koha, 2010-05-20

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00:14 brendan wow today disappeared
00:14 brendan @wunder 93117
00:14 munin` brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 20.9�C (5:12 PM PDT on May 19, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 6 PM this evening to 6 am PDT Friday...
00:17 chris[…]-cellphone-ticket
00:17 chris funny
00:23 brendan yup that's funny
00:24 chilts lol
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00:55 nml Hey guys, I recently downloaded the alpha2 release
00:55 nml But am experiencing a bug which I'm wondering if you have encountered before
00:55 nml When I attempt to add a new Label Template, I get the error
00:55 nml Undefined subroutine &main::GetAllLabelTemplates called at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-​bin/labels/ line 57.
01:25 chris_n nml: is this a fresh install? or an upgrade?
01:27 nml this is an upgrade from 3.00.04
01:38 chris_n something appears messed up then
01:39 chris_n adding a new template works fine on a clean install of alpha2
01:39 nml Would it be possible for, rather than using 'make upgrade' but 'make install' at the downloaded alpha2 code to install it fresh?
01:40 chris_n did you install from a tarball?
01:40 nml yes
01:40 nml Well, sorta
01:40 nml yes, actually :P
01:41 chris_n did you 'perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log' ?
01:41 nml Yes
01:41 chris_n and where there any errors when the web installer ran?
01:42 nml There were errors, but only that the tables only existed
01:43 nml I have a backup of my DB
01:43 chris_n good
01:43 nml But I am re-installing the alpha from scratch as I speak
01:44 chris_n that is probably best as it looks like maybe your C4 libraries may have been messed up or something like that
01:44 nml ok
01:45 chris_n larsw: it sounds like your dump script could easily be called from inside the staff client to do an "on demand" dump of the db
01:45 larsw chris_n, yes, except for performance issues
01:45 larsw but it would be the library doing it to themselves, so that'd be ok
01:46 chris_n right; I suspect such a dump could be painful in terms of resources, but hopefully it would be a sort of tool of last resort
01:47 * chris_n imagines the staff client option as more insurance than a regularly used tool
01:48 nml chris_n: is there an easy way to get rid of all of the koha files on my system?
01:48 nml Both alpha and released files
01:50 chris_n I'm not 100% sure where the standard install sticks things, but yes it should be possible
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01:57 chris_n g'night
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03:49 kornelson hello people
03:50 kornelson anybody here
03:50 kornelson ?
03:50 larsw mabye
03:50 kornelson maybe o mabye xd
03:50 larsw maybe :)
03:50 kornelson ok i have a trouble
03:51 kornelson with the koha instalation, and i look for a help in internet but i cant fix the problem :(
03:51 kornelson sorry but my english is no good
03:51 kornelson larsw do you speak spanish?
03:51 larsw no, sorry
03:52 kornelson lars this is my error
03:52 kornelson lock
03:52 kornelson
03:52 kornelson look
03:52 kornelson jaja
03:53 larsw kornelson, sorry, I do not know what the problem is -- I'm new to this stuff myself
03:53 kornelson humm
03:54 kornelson some koha expert
03:54 larsw sounds like a problem with the database interface, though
03:54 larsw are you running mysql or postgres?
03:54 kornelson mysql
03:54 kornelson i find a manual
03:54 kornelson for koha instalation and in the instrucctions puts mysql for db manage
03:56 kornelson hello?
03:56 larsw I don't really know what to look for, sorry
03:59 kornelson i'm look some expert in koha instalation :s
04:00 kornelson this is a channel for help us
04:00 kornelson :P
04:00 kornelson i supouse
04:00 chilts people help where they can
04:00 chilts but people can't always help :)
04:01 kornelson yes
04:01 kornelson i know
04:01 kornelson but may be
04:01 kornelson happends a miracle
04:01 kornelson xD
04:01 kornelson sorry but my english is no good
04:02 kornelson chilts do you make any koha instalation ?
04:03 kornelson do you do any koha instalation?
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04:06 Amit heya brendan, chris
04:07 chilts kornelson: as I said people will help if they can, and at the moment I can't ... sorry
04:08 kornelson :(
04:08 kornelson ok
04:08 chilts personally though, it looks like a problem with DBD::MySQL (like an old version or something)
04:08 chilts maybe not installed correctly
04:08 kornelson i don't know how to fix the problem.
04:08 chilts AutoCommit should have been around for ages, so I think that's a sympton of something else
04:08 chilts me neither I'm afraid
04:10 kornelson :O
04:12 genji hmm..
04:12 chilts have you got DBI and DBD::MySQL installed?
04:12 genji im getting a http::oai test fail
04:13 kornelson y supuse
04:13 kornelson supouse
04:13 kornelson mysql yes
04:13 kornelson but dbi i don't know
04:13 chilts I think you _do_ have DBI, but what about DBD::MySQL
04:13 chilts ?
04:14 larsw would this be the way to test that, chilts: perl -e 'use DBD::MySQL;'
04:14 chilts perl -MDBD::MySQL -e '1'
04:15 chilts it'll either return nothing or explode :)
04:15 kornelson Can't locate DBD/ in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .). BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
04:15 chilts that's your first problem then
04:15 chilts install DBD::MySQL
04:15 kornelson how to chilts
04:15 kornelson sorry
04:15 chilts good idea larsw
04:15 chilts what OS are you on?
04:15 kornelson it's my first time with this
04:15 kornelson debian
04:15 kornelson lenny
04:16 chilts sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl
04:16 chilts hmm, I fear you'll run into a lot of those problems if this one got you
04:16 kornelson jejej sorry
04:16 kornelson ok chilts
04:17 kornelson look
04:18 kornelson libdbd-mysql-perl ya está en su versión más reciente.
04:18 genji anyone know about http oai badbytes?
04:18 kornelson i have the most recent version
04:21 chris i think its lower case
04:22 chris perl -MDBD::mysql -e '1'
04:22 chris try that
04:22 chilts but if it is installed, the why is it blowing up in C4::Auth?
04:22 chris its autocommit that is spazzing
04:23 chilts there is something strange afoot at the Circle K
04:23 chris yeah what i would try
04:23 chris is apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl
04:23 chris cpan DBD::mysql
04:24 genji okay, im trying to install koha 3.0.6 and HTTP::OAI is failing its badbytes test.
04:24 genji so,, won't install.
04:26 chris
04:26 chris seems others have had this problem, ive never run into it before though
04:26 kornelson chris i remove libdbd-mysql-perl ?
04:26 genji ah.. not for me, that mail... hmm...
04:26 Amit heya genji
04:27 kornelson chilts
04:30 genji hey amit.
04:30 brendan hey amit
04:30 genji gah.... what does http::oai have to do with bad bytes?
04:32 kornelson fuck. sorry but i don't know what to do
04:32 kornelson with this error
04:33 kornelson :( i'm desesperated
04:33 chris try apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl
04:33 chris then install it again
04:34 chilts sounds like there is something weird with your system
04:34 chilts yeah, try that :)
04:34 chris im not sure it will do anything
04:34 chris but other people seemed to think it worked :)
04:34 genji .... -sigh-
04:35 kornelson ok
04:35 kornelson jejejej
04:35 kornelson i try but appear other error
04:35 kornelson Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 666. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 30. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 30. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/ line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/
04:36 kornelson :(
04:36 chris is mysql-server running?
04:37 kornelson what command shows mysql is still running
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04:38 chris are you getting these errors when running the web installer?
04:38 kornelson nop.
04:38 chris where?
04:38 kornelson ok wait i reboot my machine
04:39 chris have you run the web installer?
04:39 chris no dont do that
04:39 kornelson that errors ocurred when i type
04:39 cait good morning all
04:39 chris ah so you are running the web installer, ok cool
04:39 chris id do a
04:39 kornelson chris i don't know what happend with mysql
04:40 chris sudo /etc/init.d/mysql-server restart
04:40 kornelson jojo mysql-server no existe el fichero o el directorio
04:40 kornelson :S
04:40 kornelson no appear
04:41 chris ls /etc/init.d
04:41 kornelson in init.d the files are mysql and others but not mysql server
04:41 chris try just mysql then
04:41 kornelson ok
04:42 kornelson ok i type the command but nothing happend, but before the command works, ok i reboot the machine, i work in a virtual machine
04:42 chris worth a try
04:42 kornelson please wait 2 minutes
04:42 kornelson thanks
04:42 chilts sounds like a broken machine to me
04:42 chris normally you dont connect to it on the socket anyway, but on a port
04:42 kornelson broken machine? what tha means?
04:43 chilts maybe it's also the networking between his machine (where he is trying and the virtual machine
04:43 chilts that's what I reckon
04:43 chris could be
04:43 kornelson yes i write the sentence but the error still appear
04:43 kornelson :S
04:44 kornelson koha error
04:44 chilts kornelson: do you have MySQL and Koha on the same machine (either physical or virtual)?
04:44 kornelson can¡'t conect to local mysql server
04:44 kornelson yes
04:44 kornelson in the same machine
04:44 chilts and that's the virtual machine?
04:44 chris still using the socket?
04:44 kornelson i'm installed debian lenny in a virtual machine with virtualbox
04:44 chilts hmm, see if you can connect to mysql from the command line ... I forget what the command args are though
04:45 kornelson and i tray to configure in local the koha instalation
04:45 chris mysql -uusername -p koha
04:45 chris so probably
04:45 chilts chris: would he need a port in that somewhere?
04:45 chris mysql -ukohaadmin -p koha
04:45 chilts ah cool
04:45 kornelson hey
04:45 kornelson mysql not work
04:45 kornelson mysql command not found
04:45 kornelson :( i don't know what happend
04:46 chris sudo apt-get install mysql-server
04:46 kornelson before mysql works
04:46 chilts sudo apt-get install mysql-client
04:46 chris and that
04:46 chilts need client too (just as a test)
04:46 chilts :)
04:46 kornelson ok
04:46 kornelson whait a minute
04:47 kornelson i need to download 34.5mb
04:47 kornelson and i have only 1mb conection
04:48 kornelson ok once waiting i'm read the next irc log and i follow the sentences but don't fix the problem
04:48 kornelson[…]g/koha/2010-03-14
04:48 kornelson 35%
04:51 kornelson 85%
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04:52 CGI686 hola
04:52 CGI686 nelsin
04:52 CGI686 que aburrido es esto
04:53 kornelson ok finish and now install mysql client
04:53 kornelson ok chilst
04:53 kornelson i'm finish
04:54 kornelson i', write again and the same problem persist :(
04:57 kornelson ?
05:01 kornelson the same error continues
05:01 kornelson :(
05:02 kornelson i'm surrended i don't know to do :(
05:03 kornelson ?
05:03 kornelson chilts
05:03 kornelson :(
05:03 chilts I have no idea, I'm sorry
05:03 kornelson but i'm installed sql server and client
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05:07 kornelson ok
05:07 kornelson i come back tomorrow
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05:07 kornelson thank for your help
05:07 kornelson thanks for you help
05:08 kornelson :P
05:08 kornelson chris chilts
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05:08 kornelson bye
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06:31 brendan alright night #koha
06:31 * brendan sleeps
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07:07 magnus good time of the day, #koha
07:07 magnus or night
07:21 hdl hi
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07:51 kf good morning #koha
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08:40 chris evening
08:41 hdl hi chris?
08:42 chris hi hdl
08:42 hdl howdy ?
08:42 chris not bad thanks, and you?
08:43 hdl quite good.
08:47 chris
08:48 chris 220 downloads of 3.0.6 from download.koha-community .. and 52 with all translations
08:48 chris not bad in only 4 days
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09:02 chris cant sleep chris_n` ?
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09:18 mason oooh, nice  ohloh site
09:31 kf1 wizzyrea around?
09:32 kf1 is now known as kf
09:56 chris
09:56 chris hows that look now?
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10:02 chris_n g'morning
10:02 chris_n download looks good chris
10:03 chris_n but the Koha log is full left in my browser
10:05 Amit heya chris_n
10:06 chris the logo?
10:06 chris k
10:11 chris hmm now ive made it disappear totally
10:11 chris css makes my brain hurt
10:12 chris i think ill leave it like that and get wizzyrea to fix it :)
10:17 magnus chris: lookin' good
10:18 magnus perhaps the two links to the "current" downloads could be made to stand out more? make them look like buttons or something?
10:19 * magnus heads to the kitchen in search of lunch
10:25 chris added strong tags
10:34 chris_n bbiab
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10:46 kmkale Good evening all
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11:00 Amit heya kmkale
11:00 kmkale hi Amit
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11:48 kmkale @weather mumbai\
11:48 munin` kmkale: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
11:48 kmkale @weather mumbai
11:48 munin` kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (4:40 PM IST on May 20, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
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12:09 * jdavidb harrumphs.
12:10 * owen says in the voice of David Attenborough, 'The call of the wild jdavidb!'
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12:34 jwagner @quote random
12:34 munin` jwagner: Quote #32: "<wizzyrea> oh, things are not right in the world .... oh good, that makes me feel better. it's just the govt" (added by jdavidb at 09:56 AM, September 09, 2009)
12:34 jdavidb @quote random
12:34 munin` jdavidb: Quote #41: "owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;)" (added by jwagner at 11:13 AM, October 16, 2009)
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12:36 schuster wizzyrea - here yet?
12:36 schuster Howdy all.
12:36 jdavidb hi, schuster!
12:36 schuster jdavidb - that line of code did wonders for my inventory and I have some very excited librarians.  imagine that one... Scarry.
12:37 jdavidb Awesome.  :)
12:37 kmkale what the heck is 620$a anyone?
12:37 jdavidb Bring some of that excitement with you to ALA, eh?
12:37 jdavidb @marc 620
12:37 munin` jdavidb: unknown tag 620
12:37 kmkale none here too
12:38 schuster kmkale - pulling out my handy MARC bibliographic ... There isn't such a thing.
12:38 kmkale i have it slapped on as keywords
12:38 jdavidb In Unimarc, it is the "Printer of illustrations or designs from plates"
12:38 schuster So what do you have in that tag currently? - ah ... Unimarc.
12:38 kmkale any idea where keywords should go?
12:38 kmkale no its marc21
12:39 schuster What's in it?  maybe it was coded wrong and should be a 520 - summary?
12:39 jdavidb schuster++
12:39 kmkale sample data "Microcomputer,Central Processing Unit, Secondary Storage, Techniques of Programming "
12:40 jdavidb that sounds like a 650 Subject.
12:41 schuster not authorized... very odd - where did the data come from?
12:41 jdavidb (kinda sloppy to be an LCSH heading, but it's structured more-or-less right.
12:41 kmkale Title from the above sample data in 620$a is " A Guide to Fortran Programming"
12:41 schuster Does your record have a 040? - that is supposed to help track where it "came from"
12:42 gmcharlt kmkale: your 620 looks like a local field for topical keywords
12:42 kmkale no schuster its a very slipshod marc data I need to port to Koha
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12:42 kmkale would you say it looks better for 650 then?
12:43 gmcharlt for a slightly better place to stick the 620, I'd recommend a 690, which is more commonly used for local, uncontrolled subject terms
12:43 kmkale will 690 show up in subjects in opac?
12:43 schuster It does look better for a 690 - just hope they never think of doing authority work...:)
12:43 gmcharlt hmm, or better yet, 653
12:44 gmcharlt @marc 653
12:44 munin` gmcharlt: An index term added entry that is not constructed by standard subject heading/thesaurus-building conventions. (Repeatable) [a,6,8]
12:44 munin` is now known as munin
12:44 kmkale :) they havent heard of authority yet and its only for opac in
12:45 schuster Might recommend that library run a report on those after they migrate and explore "new" standard records for their data...  But again if they are not stickler librarians then it won't matter.
12:45 schuster gmcharlt 653++
12:46 kmkale schuster: they wont be using Koha for staff use yet. Its only for the union catalouge at
12:46 schuster kmkale - if you can break that string into mulitples it might help in the long run.  ie  4 different 653 tags.
12:47 kmkale I can break it up on the ,'s will the broken up terms then be more useful in some other tag?
12:50 kmkale huh 520 is grandly assigned to a column called remarks
12:50 schuster no it just makes it easier in the long run if they do need to change something or there are common terms in a subject type browse.
12:50 kmkale :(
12:51 schuster 520's are generally a "summary" of what the book is about - often found with fiction books and they don't have subject headings.
12:51 schuster I would again go for the 653
12:51 kmkale right thanks schuster gmcharlt
12:54 kmkale one more please I have a column titled Subject. data is "History" or "Grammer" or "Essay" or "Encyclopedia" etc etc. would you say 655?
12:55 kmkale @marc 655
12:55 munin kmkale: Terms indicating the genre, form, and/or physical characteristics of the materials being described. A genre term designates the style or technique of the intellectual content of textual materials or, for graphic materials, aspects such as vantage point, intended purpose, or method of representation. A form term designates historically and functionally specific kinds of materials distinguished by their (1 more message)
12:55 kmkale @marc 655
12:55 munin kmkale: Terms indicating the genre, form, and/or physical characteristics of the materials being described. A genre term designates the style or technique of the intellectual content of textual materials or, for graphic materials, aspects such as vantage point, intended purpose, or method of representation. A form term designates historically and functionally specific kinds of materials distinguished by their (1 more message)
12:56 kmkale how do I get the (1 more message) part?
12:57 chris_n @more
12:57 munin chris_n: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
12:57 chris_n @more kmkale
12:57 munin chris_n: physical character, the subject of their intellectual content, or the order of information within them. Physical characteristic terms designate historically and functionally specific kinds of materials as distinguished by an examination of their physical character, subject of their intellectual content, or the order of information with them. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,v,x,y,z,2,3,5,6,8]
12:58 kmkale aahh thanks chris_n
12:59 gmcharlt kmkale: yep, 655 sounds like the right choice for that
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13:00 kmkale cool. thanks again
13:07 jwagner Got a philosophical question of sorts for people.  See Bug 3788, where I did a patch to make the OPAC obey the staff viewISBD syspref.  I've also had requests to turn off display of the MARC View and Expanded MARC View in the OPAC.
13:08 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3788 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---,, RESOLVED FIXED, XSLT does not obey viewISBD syspref
13:08 owen OpacUserCSS
13:08 jwagner There are staff sysprefs controlling these -- viewMARC and viewLabeledMARC.  However, I figured out how to hide them in OPAC with jquery.  Would OPAC sysprefs be preferable, or stick with jquery?
13:09 jwagner (OPAC does not obey the existing staff sysprefs)
13:09 owen jwagner: I think that if we offer a switch to turn off one view, we should offer switches for the others as well
13:10 owen If someone wants to set the bibliodefaultview to ISBD and eliminate other choices that should be possible (even if I think they're crazy)
13:10 jwagner That's what I was kind of thinking -- for consistency & ease of understanding.  But since these _can_ be hidden with jquery, I wanted to get people's feelings on it.
13:13 jwagner While I'm at it, I want to do some sysprefs to turn off some more of the tabs in OPAC patron account -- I have a couple of sites that don't want the account info itself visible/editable.  I figured out how to hide the submit button so patrons can't submit changes, but hiding the whole tab is preferable.
13:13 jwagner (These sites get automatic patron loads and don't want the data changed)
13:14 jwagner I'm thinking either change the markup to add IDs to all the tabs (don't think there are now), or sysprefs for them.
13:15 gmcharlt jwagner: one suggestion for the sysprefs - rather than have an on/off syspref for each variation of such things, a single syspref (e.g., an OPACBibViews) that had a list of checkboxes would be more compact
13:15 gmcharlt ditto for things like the patron account tabs
13:15 gmcharlt it would require a bit of coding as well to have a generic 'choices' syspref option
13:16 jwagner That kind of edges into something I've been thinking about, but don't know how to do -- instead of having the OPAC layout controlled by a lot of sysprefs, take all that into a separate configuration page.
13:17 gmcharlt yeah, I think somebody (wizzyrea?) mentioned the idea of having OPAC configuration be done using a more widget-based approach, a la WordPress
13:17 jwagner It would certainly make new installs easier -- present the site with all the options in one place
13:18 jwagner Right now the relevant sysprefs are scattered around, mostly under OPAC but some under searching and I think some under patron & admin.
13:18 jwagner (Enhanced Content would have to be its own separate page, I think)
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13:24 kmkale one more please. freeform name of the supplier 037$b or 530$b ?
13:26 kmkale @marc 037
13:26 munin kmkale: Information needed to order the item or its reproduction. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,f,g,n,6,8]
13:26 kmkale @marc 530$b
13:26 munin kmkale: unknown tag 530$b
13:26 kmkale @marc 530
13:26 munin kmkale: Availability information concerning a different physical format in which the described item is available. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,u,3,6,8]
13:33 kmkale :( any tag for donor of a book? there is a column for Donor
13:36 schuster We have generally put donor in as a 500 general note or on the item record itself - copy statement.
13:36 nahuel kyle_away, ping
13:39 schuster owen - or others question...  On the borrower - print - not the slip but the full record - it doesn't have barcode, but has "format".  Is that easy to change?  I can't figure out where that is being called from.
13:40 schuster members/​rnumber=157443&amp;print=page - end of url for print page.
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13:40 owen "format" is definitely incorrect, since not all libraries use collection codes as format designators
13:42 nengard_ jwagner - just catching up
13:42 nengard_ when you talk about the patron account are you talking about the info about the patron? or the 'fines' ?
13:42 schuster nengard_ - talking to schuster?
13:42 nengard_ talking to jwagner
13:43 schuster ok :) smiles to you...
13:43 nengard_ jwagner if you mean the patron details - see Bug 4127
13:43 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4127 enhancement, P5, ---,, NEW, make OPACPatronDetails a choice with 3 options
13:43 owen schuster: If you wanted to hack the template you'd open up moremember-print.tmpl and add <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="barcode" -->
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13:43 schuster Way cool thanks owen.  makes jwagner and jdavidb shutter... :)
13:43 owen I would think it would be a worthwhile change to make officially
13:44 * jdavidb shudders a little
13:44 * owen is pretty sure that template hasn't been changed in years
13:44 schuster I'll see about getting my support company to do that submission as I don't have anything close to head right now.
13:45 jwagner Sorry, folks, got pulled away for a quickie meeting, catching up.
13:45 jwagner nengard, yes, that would do what I want for patron details.
13:46 owen Item call number would be better to show than item type
13:46 jwagner I think I may go ahead and just add markup IDs to all the tabs so people can hide individual ones if needed.
13:47 owen jwagner: Aren't they already marked with IDs?
13:48 jwagner owen, doesn't look like it.
13:49 owen Are you talking about the tabs on opac-detail for Normal, MARC, etc?
13:51 jwagner owen, sorry, conflating two different suggestions.  The opac-detail tabs have IDs, but the patron account tabs don't
13:52 jwagner And just to make schuster and jdavidb REALLY shudder -- I think it would be most useful if the circ slips (and acq suggestion messages) got transformed into notice files, so libraries could edit the text themselves :-)
13:53 * jdavidb shudders a little more.
13:54 schuster Doesn't make me shudder makes me go hmmm great idea!  My librarians really like the format of this moremembers-print.tmpl - if only I could force a run of ID's through it to get printouts on demand...
13:55 owen Nice idea schuster
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13:57 schuster I feel a new enhancement coming on...  If I could do the overdue - warning page - and when that comes up with my data - say "print" and it used the moremembers-print.tmpl as the template to generate the printout...  PERFECT!
13:57 schuster The more I learn the more money I need for enhancements!
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14:04 schuster owen - OH MY GOSH - that was just too easy.   It's the little things.  AND YES - I keep paper copies and notes of all these types of changes I do on my production server for future upgrades.
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14:07 * owen contemplates this "paper" uncomprehendingly
14:10 jwagner owen, it's filed next to clay tablets :-)
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14:18 libtek Good morning.
14:18 schuster So I can make my local customizations again and recreate if needed.  Some of the things I "tweak" are really Plano ISD related.
14:19 schuster Odd thing though...  I placed a hold and filled it but that isn't showing up on the print options even though it looks to be coded...???
14:20 schuster Slip and full.  Anyone else have that or did I screw something else up when I modified my moremember-print.tmpl?
14:20 libtek Anyone know how to confirm that the crontab is running?  I've got a job in it to reindex every 5 minutes, but it hasn't done it yet.
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14:21 nengard yes
14:21 nengard oops - wrong window - sorry
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14:59 owen Did y'all see massoud's email to the list about that NZ high school OPAC?
14:59 owen Nice:
15:00 nengard need me some regex help .... can anyone tell me the regex to change this date: 20100312124151.0  into a mysql friendly date?
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15:01 kmkale bye all
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15:04 gmcharlt nengard: in Perl, $date =~ s/^(\d{4})(\d{2})(\d{2})/$1-$2-$3/;
15:05 nengard gmcharlt you rock!
15:05 gmcharlt assuming that you care only about the date portion, and not the time
15:05 nengard that should be a-ok
15:05 gmcharlt gah
15:05 nengard ?
15:05 gmcharlt nengard: in Perl, $date =~ s/^(\d{4})(\d{2})(\d{2}).*/$1-$2-$3/;
15:05 chris_n see also C4::Dates
15:05 gmcharlt that will work better
15:06 nengard i'm using it in marcedit chris_n - so i just needed the regex
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15:06 gmcharlt yep, in context of Koha code, C4::Dates routines shoudl be preferred over custom date manipulation code
15:06 gmcharlt marcedit is a different story, of course
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15:07 nengard gmchart, yes it is
15:07 nengard a different story
15:07 nengard but with this i should be able to figure it out - or if someone wants to write it for marcedit i'll take it :)
15:08 libtek Anyone know how to confirm that the crontab is running?  I've got a job in it to reindex every 5 minutes, but it hasn't done it yet.
15:10 jwagner libtek, the every-5-minute cron won't do anything if the zebra daemon itself isn't running.  Have you checked that?
15:11 libtek I turned it on.  Is there a way I can check the status?
15:12 libtek The indexes are showing, as I had to turn it on to see things in the catalog.  However, that is all I know at this point.
15:13 wizzyrea gmcharlt: <3 I love ethat idea
15:13 wizzyrea and yea, I've probably mentioned it several times
15:13 wizzyrea[…]Coding_Guidelines
15:13 wizzyrea but please look this over for correctness
15:13 wizzyrea anybody who has a minute
15:13 libtek I did the sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_}/ /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
15:14 wizzyrea omgosh, just answered a question from like an hour ago
15:14 wizzyrea sheesh
15:14 libtek then the sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults
15:14 libtek then sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/ start
15:25 chris_n nengard: what I meant was that I believe there are regexps in there that would serve to to that conversion
15:25 chris_n but gmcharlt has answered the question :)
15:26 nengard chris_n yeah - it's just that I wasn't doing it on the server, so I didn't think it would help :)
15:27 chris_n wizzyrea, gmcharlt: personally, I'd like to see the license section moved to the license section of the pod so that it shows up when one does perldoc C4::foo
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15:29 wizzyrea chris_n: I should note that I didn't write that, I just converted it fromt he old wiki to the new
15:29 wizzyrea mostly I want to know if I mucked anything up converting the wiki syntax
15:29 wizzyrea but you could add that as a meeting agenda item :)
15:29 chris_n looks fine to me; there are some lines near the bottom that run out of the window
15:30 chris_n maybe they should wrap
15:30 chris_n in the 3.4 proposals
15:32 wizzyrea okies fixed
15:36 wizzyrea anybody have any idea what he is referring to?[…]ge-1/#comment-469
15:37 wizzyrea suppose we should ask for clarification
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15:51 owen wizzyrea: Is there a site-wide feed for comments on
15:51 wizzyrea good question... let me look
15:51 wizzyrea it's wordpress, there should be
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15:57 wizzyrea
15:58 owen wizzyrea++
15:58 owen wordpress++
15:59 owen I'll subscribe even though I end up seeing a comment from Ben Ide in the process
15:59 wizzyrea hehe
16:02 wizzyrea I think I've asked this before... and I kind of remember the answer
16:02 wizzyrea nobody wants a forum type thing for koha, right?
16:03 wizzyrea < wondering because we keep getting people asking questions in unpublished posts on the site, lol
16:04 owen People have proposed it in the past, but the consensus among developers is that it would distract from the mailing list, and would be too much to keep track of
16:04 wizzyrea ok, yea that's what I thought
16:04 owen If we're the ones who are going to be answering questions, we need to limit the venues if we're to keep up
16:05 wizzyrea hm maybe threaded comments would suffice.
16:05 * owen pretty much hates forums because it requires visiting a web site again and again and that's so 2003.
16:05 wizzyrea ^^ agreed
16:05 wizzyrea forums only seem to work for WoW guilds
16:05 wizzyrea :P
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16:10 wizzyrea < can say that, as I have shepherded several WoW guilds' web presences
16:10 jdavidb you really *are* a masochist, aren't you, wizzyrea?
16:10 wizzyrea I know!
16:11 wizzyrea gamers are fun... until they're not
16:11 jdavidb Once is a bad idea; twice is masochism...more than that...
16:12 * wizzyrea can't help it... she likes mucking about with weird online tools
16:12 jdavidb I've been investing in big bags of Drama Llama Chow in my MMO.  Very annoying for a non-pk environment.
16:12 * jdavidb is the wierd hippy peacenik.
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16:22 schuster renewal question - when I check out the book it makes it due next year 5/18/2011 like it should.  If I renew another book on that borrower it only renews it for 30 days.  ???
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16:28 libtek Anyone know how to confirm that the crontab is running?
16:29 libtek I have */5 * * * * KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/ -b -a -z >/dev/null set as the koha user, but nothing has happened yet.
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16:35 libtek I am finding if I run the rebuild manually "/usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/ -b -a -z >/dev/null", it runs, but nothing changes.  If I change the -z switch to a -r switch, it runs, and the changes take affect.  Any ideas?  Should I change this switch in the crontab?  Any issues with doing it this way?  I don't really know what the switches do yet.
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17:03 gmcharlt
17:15 chris_n cool
17:16 chris_n it has some strange formatting in some places, but looks nice overall
17:17 gmcharlt suggestions to changes to the stylesheet welcome
17:18 collum that is cool
17:19 collum gmcharlt: does some of the strange formatting come from the associated perl file?
17:19 gmcharlt collum: quite possibly - depends on what you mean by strange formatting
17:19 collum http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]qui/supplier.html
17:20 gmcharlt collum: yep, that's due to bad POD
17:20 gmcharlt missing a space between the =head1 DESCRIPTION and the next paragraph
17:20 collum ah
17:22 gmcharlt the HTML gets refreshed daily
17:23 cait gmcharlt++ :)
17:24 collum I second that.  gmcharlt++
17:28 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I notice that there is both[…]Coding_Guidelines and[…]Coding_Guidelines
17:29 gmcharlt merging those would be good - I like the code formatting from the former, the TOC from the other
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17:40 chrisd Hi all.  I'm trying to still figure some things out zebra and i figured I would ask here.  What is the difference between zebraqueue and the script?  In normal day to day cataloging should the zebraqueue be running?
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17:51 chris_n chrisd: zebraqueue should not be run at all
17:58 chrisd I've loaded 10000 records with zebraqueue off and then after the load I turned it on and it was putting a load on the processor.  Then I turned it off and ran and then turned it on again and was ok
17:58 libtek Does this happen to anyone else?  When I import a record from z39.50 and then add an item, I end up with two bibs for the item and the item is attached to one of them, and the other bib has no holdings.
17:59 chrisd Is this the order i'm supposed to do it in?  Load records -> -> Turn zebraqueue on
18:00 chrisd I think i'm not getting the big picture of what zebraqueue and does
18:00 owen libtek: What's your browser?
18:02 libtek IE8
18:02 owen Bug 3774
18:02 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3774 minor, P5, ---,, NEW, Original Cataloging leading to duplicate biblio records in Internet Explorer
18:04 libtek Nice.  Anyone know if this is something that has to be corrected in IE, or in Koha?
18:05 owen I've only begun to look at the bug, and I don't know where the problem lies yet.
18:05 libtek owen: are you the Owen L that commented on this bug?
18:05 jdavidb there can be only one!
18:06 owen libtek: Yes
18:06 owen libtek: But I don't know that I tried to add an item at the same time as you say you did
18:07 libtek owen: I was just going to mention that.  I think that might be where part of the issue lies.
18:07 * owen tries it
18:08 libtek I'll try adding the bib and then adding the holding later and see if there is any difference.
18:11 chris_n chrisd: you should never run zebraqueue daemon; setup to run as a cronjob every N minutes where N is whatever works for your catalogers
18:15 chrisd chris_n: ok.  so is what adds the record to the index?
18:15 chris_n correct
18:18 chrisd chris_n: but zebraqueue is supposed to run at startup?
18:20 chris_n chrisd: you should permanently remove zebraqueue
18:20 chris_n ie. never run it, ever
18:20 chris_n :)
18:22 libtek owen: yep, the bug is specific to adding the holding at the same time you add the bib.  It behaves much better adding it separately.  Too bad. :( Doing both at the same time really streamlined things.
18:22 libtek at least there is a work around.  Using another browser is not an option unfortunately.
18:23 chrisd chris_n: :) ok still confused as to why it's in the instructions then.  I'm missing the big picture bear with me.
18:23 owen libtek: Definitely unfortunate. IT policy?
18:24 libtek chrisd: you are not alone.  I suffered the same problem when I was getting things up (a day or two ago!)
18:24 libtek owen: yep
18:24 owen (the most security-backwards IT policy ever)
18:25 chris_n chrisd: there are patches in the queue to remove references to zebraqueue from the INSTALL documentation
18:25 chris_n it is deprecated due to an unresolved memory leak among other issues
18:25 libtek chris_n: woohoo!  :)
18:26 * chris_n thinks one zebra is hard enough to handle, much less a whole queue of them ;-)
18:26 chrisd chris_n cool.  Thanks for the help
18:26 * owen still can't reproduce Bug 3774
18:26 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3774 minor, P5, ---,, NEW, Original Cataloging leading to duplicate biblio records in Internet Explorer
18:27 libtek by the way, I changed out the -z switch with the -r switch instead on the rebuild in crontab, and the job is reindexing properly now.  Don't know why it doesn't work per the instructions.
18:28 chris_n libtek: I seem to recall similar issues caused by permission problems: everything zebra related must be owned by your kohauser
18:29 libtek as far as I know, it is.  I'm not changing anything else when running the rebuild, so I'm not sure why -r will do it and -z won't.
18:30 libtek when I run it manually, I get the same results.  If I use the -z it doesn't work, but the -r switch does.  From the koha user.
18:30 libtek Anyway, it works.
18:32 libtek going to back in an hour.  :)
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18:38 * owen tried again and failed to reproduce Bug 3774
18:38 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3774 minor, P5, ---,, NEW, Original Cataloging leading to duplicate biblio records in Internet Explorer
18:39 * owen ...and got hives from using IE for 10 minutes
18:39 chris_n hehe
18:39 * chris_n hands owen a bag of Cheetos
18:40 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: nice.
18:40 owen Sure IE8 is more standards compliant, but it's still /really damn slow/!
18:40 hdl_laptop (
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18:41 nelsonlib hey everyone, I've recently done a fullly clean install of the latest download from git
18:42 nelsonlib And am trying to import the biblios and items from the previous 3.00.04 install's DB backup
18:42 owen Hi nelsonlib, I work at the Nelsonville Public Library. Do you too?
18:43 nelsonlib However, I am experiencing a problem where I can see that the record has items in the 'Search' view, but no holdings or items are displayed in the record details
18:43 nelsonlib So I suppose, the question is: what DB tables need to be filled in order for all of the appropriate information to appear
18:43 joetho !
18:43 nelsonlib owen: I work at the Nelson Memorial Library around Worcester, MA
18:43 owen :)
18:44 joetho It's evidently a Nelson thing.
18:44 nelsonlib Hah possibly
18:45 owen nelsonlib: The items table is the one which stores holdings.
18:46 owen Take the biblionumber from one of the titles in your search results which says it has items. Query the items table based on that
18:46 owen If your zebra index isn't up to date it might be showing you items which aren't there.
18:47 * owen isn't sure a zebra index could be out of date based on a previous install?
18:47 nelsonlib Ok, let me take a look at my items table
18:48 joetho "full clean install" =
18:49 nelsonlib Haha
18:49 nelsonlib Yeah, it looks like my biblio and biblioitems tables are full
18:49 joetho so zebra
18:49 nelsonlib But items has no records, let me fix that and see what will happen
18:50 wizzyrea omg gmcharlt.... = wowie!
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18:52 joetho you may find this earlier zebra discussion useful, starts around 20:00
18:52 joetho[…]g/koha/2010-05-19
18:53 joetho whoops, make that 22:00
18:54 joetho particularly since this is a new clean install- I thought the zebrasrv notes may be apropos
19:00 wizzyrea der, how do you delete a wiki page?
19:00 wizzyrea I accidentally created a dupe
19:02 gmcharlt wizzyrea: your wiki account needs to be an administrator to do that
19:02 wizzyrea aha
19:02 gmcharlt not that I'd mind giving you that
19:02 gmcharlt which page?
19:02 wizzyrea enhancement submission guidelines
19:02 gmcharlt[…]ission_Guidelines ?
19:03 wizzyrea yep, that's the one
19:03 wizzyrea <3 thanks
19:03 * owen warns Don't do it she's mad with power!
19:03 wizzyrea MUA HAHAHAHAHAHA
19:03 * wizzyrea didn't ask for it, you'll note
19:03 wizzyrea ;)
19:03 gmcharlt wizzyrea: it's gone
19:03 wizzyrea brilliant, thanks
19:04 gmcharlt speaking of power-mad villians, I saw Dr. Horrible's sing along blog for the first time last night
19:04 wizzyrea hehe, did you like it?
19:05 gmcharlt I did
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19:06 gmcharlt I started on the musical commentary track, but didn't have time to finish - I'll be curious to see if they managed to keep it up the entire time
19:07 wizzyrea hehe!
19:07 * wizzyrea has been more than a little addicted to Torchwood lately
19:07 wizzyrea anything else you wantt o link to from here?
19:07 wizzyrea[…]d/for-developers/
19:07 wizzyrea want to*
19:08 * wizzyrea is cleaning up links to old stuffs
19:09 wizzyrea oh good idea adding dev docs to the documentation page
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19:17 sekjal gmcharlt: I've heard some folks say the musical commentary track for Dr. Horrible is better than the music itself
19:18 jwagner Speaking of the wiki, see[…]c32_multiple_opac -- I see it says you can limit by item type or collection code.  Does anyone know if you can limit by multiple collection codes?
19:25 hdl_laptop wizzyrea gmcharlt: I thought there was a discussion on koha-devel recently about enhancement workflow.
19:25 owen Whoa that enhancement submission diagram is a monster!
19:26 wizzyrea Those are just ones being brought over from the old wiki
19:26 chris gmcharlt: i did some work on last night, wizzyrea might have to fix it
19:26 wizzyrea we may need to update it
19:26 gmcharlt cool
19:26 chris
19:26 wizzyrea oh hey, you got ahead of me lol
19:26 hdl_laptop Which talked about RFCs putting on wiki first and then post bugs.
19:27 chris you'll have to tell me how to get the logo to show without it looking bustinated
19:27 wizzyrea hehe ok
19:27 chris ohh and now we can add a link to perldoc too :)
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19:35 chris heh, thanks joetho
19:36 cait oooh
19:36 * jwagner breaks into song -- Happy Birthday!
19:36 cait happy birthday chris
19:36 chris_n wow, two chris's both with birthdays in May
19:36 * cait hugs chris
19:36 chris_n happy birthday chris
19:37 chris_n what year chris?
19:37 chris 73
19:38 chris_n 69 for me
19:38 chris te po atarau is one on the 31st
19:39 chris_n ahh... neat
19:42 joetho wow one chris is 69 and the other one is 73
19:42 joetho I feel SUPER young now!
19:43 brendan Happy Birthday chris
19:43 cm happy b-day!
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19:45 chris heh
19:45 chris right bus time
19:45 chris cyas in a bit
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19:47 cait joetho, what year?
19:49 hdl_laptop happy virtday chris cormack
19:49 hdl_laptop birthday
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19:53 chrisc2 Let's see how much irc on bus uses
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20:06 chrisdroid So far it uses very little cos everyone is quiet :)
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20:08 CGI266 Hello?
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20:09 CGI266 Hello?
20:10 CGI266 Any one there?
20:11 hdl_laptop yes
20:11 CGI266 Have a question about the new release of Koha
20:11 hdl_laptop chrisdroid: HAPPY BIRTHDAY in the buss
20:12 CGI266 REad somewhere that is was going to have a recon feature for scanning an entire catalog.  did it make it in?
20:13 chrisdroid Thanks :)
20:15 chrisdroid 3.0.6 was going to have that?
20:15 chrisdroid Or are you asking about the upcoming 3.2.0?
20:16 CGI266 I just loaded 3.0.6 and am trying to find any information related to the function
20:16 CGI266 might have been reading about 3.2.0
20:19 chrisdroid 3.0.6 is a stable bugfix release so won't have new features
20:19 chrisdroid Its not ringing bells for 3.2 either .... gmcharlt?
20:20 gmcharlt chrisdroid: no bells ringing in my mind either
20:20 joetho I just killed all my 005 tags
20:21 CGI266 I have several libraries on Follett Destiny now.  Big feature needed is to clean up records to a standardized format.  They would like to do the entire catalog at one time.
20:21 CGI266 Destiny does have this feature so  it will be hard to get the librarians off of it, but the cost of the system is stagering.
20:21 joetho that is an ugly job, cgi266
20:21 chrisdroid Id use marcedit for that
20:22 joetho good call numbers?
20:22 chrisdroid Or you could script it
20:22 CGI266 The Follett recon does it by scanning outside z39.50 sources adn allows you to accept the changes into your system
20:23 CGI266 It will do the entire catalog or segments en-bulk, not one at a time
20:23 chrisdroid Or for some fraction of ur license costs could hire a developer to write that
20:23 CGI266 possibility
20:24 chrisdroid its not hard I've done it on the cli, building a nice interface is the trick
20:24 chrisdroid And that helps all koha users:)
20:25 CGI266 does not have to be pretty for now, just functional adn reliable
20:26 chrisdroid Well it will need an interface nicer than the commandline :)
20:27 chrisdroid But for now marcedit will do it
20:27 chrisdroid Export a batch or records
20:27 chrisdroid Change them
20:27 chrisdroid Import them choosing to replace
20:27 CGI266 even if it is run occasionally by a sysadmin on request, it would only need to be run about once a year if that.  usually it would get run after a transition from another ILS
20:28 chrisdroid But id do the cleanup as part of the migration
20:28 joetho I am importing 13,000 records and my 005 tags are now jacked up, no idea what happened. ...Anyone know what happens if I change all my 005 tags to the same number?
20:28 joetho (the 13,000 records have bad 005 tags now)
20:29 CGI266 does marcedit have a seach/correct record function?  Have to look at that one again.
20:29 joetho I don't see anything wrong with making them all some date last week or something
20:29 chrisdroid Ie no point loading bad records, ok bus ride over back in a bit
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20:29 gmcharlt joetho: it affect the bib record date/time last modified search, but that wouldn't be a big deal
20:30 joetho oh I can change them in marcedit easy enough, but I REALLY donm't want to have to try and restore them to their original 005 tag.
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20:30 joetho right- I could pick some date last week or something.
20:31 joetho actually, I should do that anyway, because I modified the bedonkey out of all of em.
20:31 CGI266 It is the date the record  was first put in elect format, does not really affect the needed portions -
20:31 joetho hmmmm, wonder if that's how they got all crazy.
20:32 joetho I thought it was the date modiffied- the originals have all sorts of dates, including verrrrry recent
20:32 joetho Marc records make me crazy.
20:33 CGI266 I found a title of ....Last transaction but a definition of ....first put in .....
20:34 schuster @later tell jdavidb - yes use line was missing.
20:34 munin schuster: The operation succeeded.
20:34 CGI266 MARC is strange!
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20:34 gmcharlt CGI266: date the record was last updated, to be precise, not just when it was first created
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20:34 richard hi
20:34 gmcharlt CGI266: you may be thinking of the 008/00-06
20:36 CGI266 I was looking on the link above.  MARC is still strange!
20:39 libtek I'm searching bugs, but not finding this one: Placed a hold on an on shelf item.  Holds to Pull report shows the item, but there is a listing below (doesn't matter how many items) called undefined.  Doesn't appear if there are no holds waiting.
20:39 libtek Anyone see this?
20:41 cait good night all
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20:47 libtek I'll report the but if anyone can confirm this on their end.
20:49 libtek um, that is BUG, not but.  :/
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21:06 CGI817 hi folks, need some help for importing data
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21:08 CGI817 with multiple copies each) -- none of them have an isbn --- these records have been converted to marc from an excel db--- how can i ensure that each record gets added only once
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21:18 libtek Anyone know of a way to turn off circulation history?
21:19 gpal hi, I need some guidelines for using "Record matching rules"
21:20 gpal I have some data without ISBN numbers, there are quite a few multiple records but they all end up separately after the import...
21:29 gpal I have tried to add field << 026$e Fingerprint >>  as Record matching rules --- but I am unable to get it working !!!
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21:37 wizzyrea libtek: you may want to consult the manual:
21:37 wizzyrea (this would be the only time I would link you to
21:51 brendan Has Bug transfer commenced
21:52 * brendan excited for new bugs database
21:52 brendan
21:53 larsw brendan, I think chris is working on it now
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21:54 chris in 3 mins it will
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21:55 brendan w00t two minutes
21:55 brendan munin we are excited how about you?
21:55 munin brendan: Error: "we" is not a valid command.
21:55 brendan party pooper
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22:29 chris files all being sucked down now
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22:36 brendan nice
22:39 hdl_laptop chris woot
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22:45 libtek Anyone know if there is a way to customize the holds slips?  (i.e. what to print and how to print it?)
22:47 chris[…]3.0/tools/notices
22:52 libtek chris: Thanks.  Those are notices.  What I would like to modify (if possible) is the hold slip that prints when the hold is triggered.  Not the notification to the patron for pickup.
22:53 wizzyrea you have to modify those in the template
22:54 libtek Would you be able to point me to where the templates reside?
22:54 libtek Please.  :)
22:55 wizzyrea / koha-tmpl / intranet-tmpl / prog / en / modules / circ / hold-transfer-slip.tmpl
22:55 libtek Thank you!
22:55 wizzyrea in the  / koha-tmpl / intranet-tmpl / prog / en / modules /  you'll find all of the templates
22:55 wizzyrea you may have to poke around to find the one you want
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22:59 genji hiya all
22:59 genji im having trouble installing koha3 .0.6
22:59 chris 3605
22:59 libtek That's great.  Thanks!  This is awesome!
22:59 libtek goodnight everyone!
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22:59 genji HTTP::OAI tests bad, so it won't install
23:00 genji 03badbytes.t, the second test of 3.
23:00 chris get the .deb from squeeze and try that instead
23:00 genji deb of?
23:00 chris http::oai
23:01 genji hmm..okay. how do i get it?
23:02 chris or you can just install it from the commandline
23:02 chris genji: from
23:02 chris you might be better off just grabbing the tarball from cpan
23:03 chris and installing it from the commandline
23:03 genji tried manually installing it from the tarball cpan downloaded... still errors.
23:04 chris yes
23:04 chris just make install
23:05 genji force it?
23:05 genji the badbytes test is unimportant?
23:05 chris probably not
23:05 chris but if you arent planing to use http::oai and its stopping you doing something else
23:05 chris id ignore it
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23:06 genji i believe its designed to filter out bad bytes before it gets to the xml parser.. and kills that records processing.
23:06 genji what part of koha uses http::oai?
23:06 chris the oai-pmh part
23:07 chris im 99% certain that if you dont know what that is, you wont be using it ;)
23:07 genji okay.. what is oai-pmh?
23:07 chris right you arent using it
23:07 chris :)
23:07 chris google will tell you that
23:07 genji is it mentioned in the installer?
23:07 * chris goes back to work
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23:34 chris bug 1013 imported
23:34 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1013 normal, P2, ---,, RESOLVED FIXED, marclist gets chopped
23:35 chris 1/4 of the way there
23:35 chris we are gonna have to fix munin now
23:37 robin you know, if you just started from a fresh database, it'd be like you had no bugs and could go straight to release.
23:37 larsw robin, don't tempt him...
23:37 chris heh
23:40 chris oh interesting
23:40 chris ive found that sometime in 2007
23:40 chris someone used the upload attachments to try and spam
23:41 chris created bogus bugs and all
23:45 chris koha has problems that can be fixed by zoloft apparently
23:48 larsw if only everything was so easily solved
23:48 chris cpan Koha::Zoloft
23:48 chris fixed
23:49 chris dangit
23:49 chris exploded at bug 2075
23:49 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2075 enhancement, P3, ---,, NEW, complete opac/
23:50 chris well 2076 to be exact
23:56 chris running again

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