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chris |
ah cool |
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jo |
waves at pianohacker - and sends congrats to :) |
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pianohackr|work |
hi jo |
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pianohackr|work |
jo: lots of koha drama since I've been here last, no? |
| 00:09 |
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jo |
yes indeed |
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jo |
but, the community as a whole is definitely stronger for it |
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jo |
facing adversity and all that :) |
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hdl |
hi pianohackr|work |
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hdl |
congrats |
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pianohackr|work |
thanks hdl |
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pianohackr|work |
how are you? |
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hdl |
tired (2.30AM). But.... It is really nice to see you. |
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hdl |
hi brendan and ebegin |
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brendan |
heya hdl |
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pianohackr|work |
Hi brendan |
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brendan |
heya pianohackr|work |
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brendan |
great to see you ;) |
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pianohackr|work |
Heh, thanks. You too |
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pianohackr|work |
Hrm. No such host: contribs.koha-community.org |
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brendan |
is that a call to host it :) |
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pianohackr|work |
In the least direct possible way! |
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pianohackr|work |
But seriously, yes |
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pianohackr|work |
There are some very useful tools buried in there |
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brendan |
yeah some little gems in there |
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brendan |
got run to the store catch you all in a bit |
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brendan |
bye pianohackr|work |
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chris_n |
drat... missed him |
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chris_n |
@later tell pianohackr|work congrats! |
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munin` |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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brendan |
just reading back - I think chris 's comment summed it up best - "holy crap" it's pisnohacker |
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chris |
back |
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brendan |
wb chris |
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brendan |
hopefully it won't be two months until the next time we see jesse |
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chris |
ahh, it'll be fine once he is at college |
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chris |
internet in the dorms and all that :-) |
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chris |
hmm anyone else noticed that sorting by popularity does it alphabetically not numeric? |
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chris_n |
g'night |
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chris |
night chris_n |
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brendan |
night chris_n sleep well |
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nmlib |
Hey there everyone, I was wondering if someone has a minute to help me out with a label batch problem that I am having |
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nmlib |
When I try to add items to a label creator batch, I use a wildcard '%' search on the 'Title' field with no date options |
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nmlib |
Which returns results, however, only the first 22 of the 94 total have data in them. The remaining records have cells laid out for them, but they are blank |
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chris |
ahh youve just missed the labels guru |
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chris |
you might want to drop a mail to the mailing list |
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nmlib |
Ok thank you |
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chris |
ah ha |
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chris |
its ZOOM.pm that is being dumb |
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chris |
http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/N[…]lib/ZOOM.pod#sort() |
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brendan |
hmm.. missed that |
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chris |
yeah i want numeric, not alphanumber sort |
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chris |
sorting by the number of issues alphanumerically just doesnt work |
| 03:44 |
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chris |
yeah and its in the c too |
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chris |
crap |
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kmkale |
good morning all\ |
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Amit |
heya kmkale |
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kmkale |
hi amit |
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Ropuch^__ |
Morning #koha |
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Amit |
heya Ropouch |
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magnus |
good time of the day, #koha |
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chris |
hi all |
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Amit |
heya chris |
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magnus |
so did anyone else notice koha got a mention in Linux Journal? issue 194/june pp. 34-35 |
| 07:34 |
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Ropuch^__ |
Yup :) |
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chris |
issue 106 too |
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chris |
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6350 |
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chris |
magnus: was it a good write up? |
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magnus |
well, the scenario was someone looking to "catalog" his books at home, and i guess the conclusion was "so if you have your own public library, Koha is really neat, but I realized I needed something else" |
| 07:44 |
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chris |
ah yeah, its overkill for a home library |
| 07:44 |
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magnus |
and he then goes on to explore applications like Alexandria, GCstar and Tellico |
| 07:44 |
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chris |
cool |
| 07:45 |
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magnus |
yeah, overkill sums up the conclusion |
| 07:45 |
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chris |
he probably just needs a catalogue |
| 07:45 |
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chris |
without all the circulation, acquisitions, etc |
| 07:45 |
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magnus |
yup, not the whole ILS/MLS thingies |
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chris |
yup |
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magnus |
he also says "as much as i would like to use an industrial-strength tool, the system was too confusing for me as a layperson (my wife was kind enough to point out there is a reason it is called Library Science)" ;-) |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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magnus |
The article is written by someone called Dirk Elmendorf, by the way |
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magnus |
g'day kf |
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kf |
hi magnus |
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kf |
dirk elmendorf? |
| 07:49 |
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kf |
sounds German |
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magnus |
the bio says he is a cofuonder of Rackspace |
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magnus |
cofounder, even |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
thx :) |
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chris |
magnus: i do think we don't need to make it quite as complicated as we do a lot of the time |
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chris |
magnus: unfortunately a lot of librarians think power=complexity |
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magnus |
chris: interesting thoughts! and yes, we do seem to thrive on complexity (e.g. MARC...) |
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magnus |
chris: and not to forget: RDA |
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chris |
yeah |
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chris |
magnus: id like to bring back the non-marc catalogue interface |
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chris |
(it can still store in marc in the back) |
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chris |
there are hundreds of thousands of libraries around the world |
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chris |
with non library school trained librarians |
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magnus |
godd point |
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magnus |
good, even |
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magnus |
perhaps things could be made simpler with a few stripped down frameworks with good labels, too? |
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chris |
yep |
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chris |
things like Author |
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chris |
instead of Personal Name :) |
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magnus |
for example! |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
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chris |
hi chris_n |
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jdavidb |
howdy, #koha. |
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kmkale_ |
is space allowed in item type and branch codes? |
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kmkale_ |
hi jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
hi, kmkale_. :) |
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schuster |
Howdy Koha groupies... |
| 12:32 |
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* owen |
really considers himself more of a Koha rock star... </modest> |
| 12:32 |
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schuster |
LOL... Thanks I needed that... I suspect many of us would agree with you though on that! |
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* jdavidb |
thinks owen is the Ronnie James Dio of OPAC customization. |
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schuster |
Just let us know when your next concert is and we'll show up. |
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schuster |
OPAC - heck... KOHA! |
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* jwagner |
would rate owen right up there with Bruce Springsteen! |
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schuster |
jdavidb - I modified my inventory.pl and am loading inventory records this morning works like a charm. Now to write the reports I need and then talk with PTFS about some enhancements to the process! |
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owen |
You're quite right jwagner, once I was giving this talk on OPAC customization and Courtney Cox came right up on the stage and started dancing |
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nengard |
hehe |
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* jwagner |
wants pictures of that.... |
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schuster |
MORE LOL... stop, I might start crying here in a minute too funny. |
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jdavidb |
If owen is the Ronnie Dio, then gmcharlt must be the Ozzy. Only, without the biting heads off animals part. |
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jdavidb |
...which would probably make me...the Oak Ridge Boys or something. :P |
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* gmcharlt |
is no geek - the chicken heads are *not* to be bitten off! |
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jwagner |
jdavidb, you're more the Bill Staines type. |
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jwagner |
Maybe I can be Mannheim Steamroller? |
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jdavidb |
Yeah, Staines sounds about right for me. (So obscure I had to look 'im up...) |
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nengard |
i have to admit i am so so so so lost right now |
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jwagner |
Staines may be obscure, but he's very very good! |
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jwagner |
To quote one of my favorites, "All God's critters got a place in the choir" |
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jwagner |
(or the version I usually sing, All God's creatures...) |
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owen |
If the issues table doesn't record the issuing branch in the issuingbranch column, what does issues.branchcode record? The home library of the item? |
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owen |
Looks like it must be the holding library? |
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owen |
http://koha.pastebin.com/NdzrRMJ9 |
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owen |
Am I interpreting that right? If that's so, then issues.branchcode == issuing branch, because it records the new holding branch of the item (the branch which circulated it) |
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* owen |
sees that he missed a pianohacker sighting last night |
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* owen |
sees that he's here all by himself, stretches out on the couch in front of the TV with a bag of Cheetos |
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* chris_n |
breaks out the cokes |
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* jwagner |
brings the pizza |
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* magnus |
goes to the fridge to fetch some cheesecake |
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* jwagner |
has nothing else to do -- big power transformer just blew up outside & building has lost power. |
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jwagner |
My puny little UPS isn't going to last very long -- will catch you all later. |
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schuster |
Pass the Cheetos... |
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* owen |
totally bogarts the Cheetos |
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jwagner |
Harrumph |
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* chris_n |
wonders if the number of patches from owen is directly proportional to the number of Cheetos he eats... ;-) |
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owen |
More Cheetos = fewer patches. Can't type with orange fingers. |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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jwagner |
Well, you _can_ but it makes for a messy keyboard.... |
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* nengard |
reading the final proofs of my upcoming OSS book! :) |
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owen |
nengard++ |
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CGI781 |
hello! It's possible to use KOHA with 1 300 000 biblio with 100 biblioitems per biblio ? |
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chris_n |
nengard++ |
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chris_n |
CGI781: I believe that there are some libraries with millions of records running on Koha |
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* chris_n |
looks around for any biblibre people |
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owen |
nengard: I tried my best to come up with a fix for Bug 4418, but all my solutions were way too ugly. I hope you don't mind the change to 'enhancement' |
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CGI781 |
i want believe!! ;) |
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chris_n |
they just did a very large migration iirc |
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chris_n |
maybe nahuel knows |
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magnus |
CGI781: here is a FAQ about the number of items: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/cataloging/#6 looks like 100 should be ok |
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chris_n |
CGI781: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]10-05-14#i_440648 |
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chris_n |
1.2 million |
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owen |
1.2 million items. 1.3 million biblios is not quite the same thing depending on your library |
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owen |
1.3 million x 100 = 130 million! |
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CGI781 |
yes, 130 million of bibioitems! |
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schuster |
That's a big system... |
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CGI781 |
130 millions of book!.. |
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magnus |
http://koha.org/showcase/near-east-university "Over 2 million items" |
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nengard |
owen re: 4418 whatever works :) |
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owen |
nengard: I think it's a worthwhile enhancement...if only someone can take it on. |
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owen |
Hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
hello :_ |
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chris_n |
CGI781: I'd see no reason why Koha would not handle your reqs, however, a post to the list might obtain a more accurate assessment |
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* chris_n |
hands wizzyrea Cheetos |
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CGI781 |
may be, it's MYSQL limit ? |
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chris_n |
not afaik |
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chris_n |
mysql does not have a record limit iirc |
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CGI781 |
cool :-D |
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chris_n |
nor does zebra |
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schuster |
you might inquire with the University of Chicago - they do LOTS of testing with LOTS of different systems. They have LOTS of items and bibs too. On my proprietary system they were the one we all looked to in dealing with size. |
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schuster |
wow in looking things up the 6th floor museum is using what looks like koha to me - http://catalog.jfk.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl |
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schuster |
learn something new every day... |
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* chris_n |
thinks it would be nice to have data available on performance testing with various sized dbs and Koha |
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owen |
I was hoping, long ago, that the community would benefit form all the Waldo work with regard to experiences with large collections |
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collum |
schuster: they posted to the koha list in Feb. http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ruary/022717.html |
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* collum |
couldn't remember why he knew this. |
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nahuel |
CGI781, ? |
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libtek |
chris_n: are you here? |
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libtek |
can anyone tell me, what is the other database that koha uses besides mysql. |
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libtek |
? |
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owen |
libtek: Are you referring to Zebra, the indexing engine? |
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libtek |
not sure. |
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libtek |
I have an issue where a record is still showing up in cataloging. I've thrown out the mysql koha database, and rebuilt it, but the record still shows up. I am trying to figure out where this record still exists so I can wipe it out. |
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chris_n |
nahuel: CGI781 was asking if koha could handle 130 million items |
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nahuel |
it could |
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nahuel |
if you have a huge mysql server :) |
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libtek |
I'm getting the following error when I click on the record: |
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libtek |
Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/catalogue/MARCdetail.pl line 123. |
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nahuel |
and a huge zebra server |
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chris_n |
nahuel: I thought it could |
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nahuel |
And I think you have to patch a bit koha tables |
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* chris_n |
wonders about the performance issues |
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nahuel |
:) |
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nahuel |
with 1 thousand records you have performance issues with koha :) |
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nahuel |
so with 1 000 000 you can have too :) |
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libtek |
anyone know how to scrap the zebra indexing and start fresh? |
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gmcharlt |
libtek: rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r |
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pastebot |
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nmllib |
Hi everyone, I was here last night, and I wanted to check back. I am having problems with the label batch creator |
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libtek |
rebuild failed. |
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nmllib |
Specifically, I have enough rows created when I do a wildcard '%' search on 'Title', but only the first 22 of the 94 have data in them |
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chris_n |
libtek: you forgot to export KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB |
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chris_n |
nmllib: sounds like a bug in the labels search code |
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nmllib |
I'm going to try upgrading to Harley right now and see if the bug still exists |
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nmllib |
Do you have the issue when you try to do it chris_n? |
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chris_n |
it probably does |
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chris_n |
om |
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owen |
nmllib: What version are you on? That will tell us whether Harley is an "upgrade" or not |
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chris_n |
searching on '%' returns no items for me |
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nmllib |
Is there a search target that returns all the items in your library for you? |
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CGI781 |
chris_n: thank, i willsee.. |
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chris_n |
nmllib: you could search by accession date range |
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libtek |
chris_n: export? When/where? I didn't know about this. |
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chris_n |
nmllib: Koha's search code is slated for a major overhaul in 3.4 |
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chris_n |
libtek: we went through this the other day iirc |
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chris_n |
you have them set in your kohauser's crontab |
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libtek |
chris_n:I have those listed in the crontab, if that is what you mean. |
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chris_n |
libtek: yes, but you have to export them into your environment if you run the script from the command line thus: |
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chris_n |
export PERL5LIB=/path/to/C4 |
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chris_n |
export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml |
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chris_n |
and be sure to run the rebuild script as your kohauser or it will break as well |
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nmllib |
chris_n, but if there has been a bug in this for a while then, then how do people generate their item barcodes? |
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chris_n |
nmllib: here, we search by accession date range |
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nmllib |
Ok, let me try that |
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nmllib |
And by that, I assume you mean the two date pickers that appear under the keyword/title/author search box? |
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chris_n |
ie. if you want all of your items, set some extremely long ago date in the added after date and today's date in the added before date |
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chris_n |
right |
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chris_n |
mine returns every item in the catalog by doing that sort of search |
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libtek |
Okay. I've done all that. Still getting the funky record and error. |
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libtek |
I can't figure out where this information is lurking. |
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nmllib |
That's odd, when I leave the search BOX blank and fill in the date after as May 2008 (my library founded in 2009) and the date before as today - I click 'Submit' and am returned right to the same page |
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nmllib |
Its as if the page just refreshed |
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chris_n |
libtek: please run that script with the -v switch and paste the entire output |
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chris_n |
nmllib: do searches work in other parts of Koha on your installation? |
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jcamins |
nmllib: We have that problem too, with the page refreshing. It always works the second time. |
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nmllib |
jcamins, the search refreshes the second time also |
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jcamins |
Oh. Huh. |
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nmllib |
chris_n, if I search the catalogue for '%', then I am returned all 94 records |
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jcamins |
I will see if I do anything different the second time around. |
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chris_n |
nmllib: what version are you using? |
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nmllib |
3.00.04.019 |
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nmllib |
And I am looking into upgrading right now |
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nmllib |
But I have a quick question about that, after I run the MakeMaker pointed to the old install log, will that wipe out all of my database information? |
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libtek |
chris_n: Just a sec. I rebooted the server, and now the record is gone! |
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chris_n |
nmllib: I would suggest going to alpha2 personally if you are not using this system in production atm; the labeling code is much improved there |
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libtek |
chris_n: after all that? That's all it needed? |
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chris_n |
libtek: great; be sure that the zebraqueue daemon is not running |
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owen |
Has anyone tested an "upgrade" from 3.0.4 to Harley? |
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chris_n |
libtek: btw, you can always edit the .bashrc file for you kohauser and add the export lines to the bottom of that file; that way they will automagically export whenever you su to that user |
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libtek |
chris_n: I stopped the daemon...apparently it is starting on it's own. Know of a way to disable it? |
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chris_n |
delete the link to it in /etc/init.d |
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libtek |
chris_n: is .bashrc the ubuntu equivalent of autoexec.bat for dos? |
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chris_n |
uhh actually |
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chris_n |
update-rc.d DAEMON remove iirc |
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chris_n |
libtek: in a rough way of speaking |
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nmllib |
chris_n, can you confirm that by upgrading to the latest version in git that I will NOT lose all of my patrons and items/biblios in my database? |
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libtek |
chris_n: Thanks for the removal of that service. Did that. Now I will update the .bashrc file. I'll see if I can find some documentation on editing that file. |
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gmcharlt |
nmllib: following the upgrade instructions will not cause description of data in the database |
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gmcharlt |
obviously, as with *any* upgrade of *any* software, it is best practice to do a full backup first |
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libtek |
chris_n: thanks again for your patience and help. I'm going to go crawl in a cave with this stuff and try to absorb more. You've been a BIG help, in more ways than I can express. Thanks. |
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chris_n |
libtek: np, glad to help |
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* chris_n |
remembers when he first laid eyes on Koha and required lots of help |
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chris_n |
sadly the individual that provided a bunch of that help is no longer here :-( |
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schuster |
:( |
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schuster |
question about sql - I need to join 2 different tables - and am an SQL newbie. I have the items table and have succesfully join biblioitems using (biblionumber) |
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schuster |
Now I need to join issues using(itemnumber) - what would be the best way to do that? |
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jwagner_meeting |
LEFT JOIN issues on (items.itemnumber = issues.itemnumber) |
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jwagner_meeting |
? |
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jwagner_meeting |
(Can't remember -- I think issues has itemnumber field) |
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owen |
Yes |
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libtek |
This thing hates me :/ |
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libtek |
Anytime I try to add a record to the catalog I get the "CAn't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92." error. Would this be because I am using a newer version of perl? |
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gmcharlt |
no, perl 5.10 is not the problem |
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libtek |
do I need to update the MARC::File::SAX? |
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gmcharlt |
what version of MARC::Record and MARC::File::XML do you have? |
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gmcharlt |
and what results do you get if you run sax_parser_print.pl |
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libtek |
not sure how to tell the version. First line in the file reads: Automatically generated by Pod::Man 2.1801 (Pod::Simple 3.05) |
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chris_n |
libtek: what does 'perl -MMARC::Record -e 'print "$MARC::Record::VERSION\n"' say? |
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libtek |
having trouble with the syntax on sax_parser_print.pl |
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libtek |
chris_n: Just shows ">" |
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wizzyrea |
do you have item types defined? |
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wizzyrea |
have you been through the preferences and defined all of your parameters? |
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* wizzyrea |
likes to start with the simple things :P |
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wizzyrea |
I kind of remember that there are several things that, if you have not defined in the settings, that things break wierdly. |
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libtek |
I do have item types defined. |
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chris_n |
libtek: try this again: perl -MMARC::Record -e 'print "$MARC::Record::VERSION\n"' |
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chris_n |
exactly like that |
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libtek |
Oh, there we go. 2.0.0 |
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chris_n |
libtek: and: perl -MMARC::Record -e 'print "$MARC::File::XML::VERSION\n"' |
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chris_n |
and then run sax_parser_print.pl like: perl /path/to/misc/sax_parser_print.pl |
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chris_n |
libtek: oppss: perl -MMARC::File::XML -e 'print "$MARC::File::XML::VERSION\n"' |
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libtek |
Chris_n:Ah, that's better: 0.92 |
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chris_n |
like: perl /path/to/misc/sax_parser_print.pl says? |
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libtek |
I am seeing people say that there were changes in the 0.92 file that relate to this error, and someone has patched/updated this. |
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libtek |
was that for me? |
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chris_n |
yes |
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chris_n |
jmnnmjj,,mjnhhmhkhulkjhnjml.kjhkl;' |
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* chris_n |
hates it when he spills things on his keyboard :-P |
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wizzyrea |
oh my |
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chris_n |
can you tell which keys got wet? |
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pastebot |
"libtek" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Chris_n: results for sax_parser_print.pl" (5 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/12 |
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chris_n |
bingo |
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libtek |
I love it when you say that. :) |
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chris_n |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1352;hb=HEAD#l142 |
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chris_n |
move all of the lines associated with XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser to the very top |
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chris_n |
and save |
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chris_n |
then re-run the parser test and see if it passes |
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libtek |
Chris_n: Didn't make any difference |
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libtek |
same results |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "[XML::SAX::PurePerl] http://xm" (16 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/13 |
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pastebot |
"chris_n" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "[XML::SAX::PurePerl] http://xm" (16 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/14 |
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chris_n |
opps |
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chris_n |
libtek: make it look like that |
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chris_n |
I should have said bottom |
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libtek |
Yep. That worked. |
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wizzyrea |
I think it has to be.. yea |
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wizzyrea |
bottom |
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libtek |
Should I try to add a record now? Or do I need to rebuild anything first? |
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chris_n |
try adding a record |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
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wizzyrea |
can anyone duplicate this: |
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wizzyrea |
go into a patron record |
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libtek |
Same error |
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wizzyrea |
and try to change messaging settings (add email notification for item due, for example) |
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wizzyrea |
do you get an error? |
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libtek |
Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92. |
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libtek |
Still happening |
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libtek |
I could restart the server again. :) That worked before. :) |
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owen |
wizzyrea: I don't have an option for setting an email notice for item due, but I was able to set email notices for checkout and hold filled. |
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owen |
No errors. |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
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wizzyrea |
mine does http://screencast.com/t/ODlkOTVmZ |
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wizzyrea |
ok I think I figured out when exactly it happens |
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libtek |
chris_n: I do notice that the HASH value on the sax_paser_print.pl is different than what it says it wants, but everything else looks the same and it says it looks good. |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/YjQxMWE2NDI |
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owen |
wizzyrea: I get the same error as you when clicking the "edit" link from the patron detail page |
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wizzyrea |
i'm looking for existing bugs |
| 16:21 |
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wizzyrea |
I wonder if it's related to this http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4486 |
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munin` |
Bug 4486: normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Error logged during member entry |
| 16:22 |
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owen |
One was just filed yesterday I think, related to this... |
| 16:22 |
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owen |
Bug 4508 |
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munin` |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4508 major, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, can't edit patron attributes using little edit link |
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wizzyrea |
AHA, I would not have thought to look for it that way |
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owen |
Yup, that's it |
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wizzyrea |
I was never sure why there were two ways to edit |
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owen |
nengard is way ahead of us as usual |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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nengard |
?? |
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nengard |
what did i do? |
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wizzyrea |
found the bug we were just talking about |
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nengard |
ah |
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wizzyrea |
before us |
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owen |
wizzyrea: The idea is to be able to quickly edit a smaller subset of patron details rather than have to load the whole edit screen |
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nengard |
well when you write the manual you click every link :) |
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nengard |
that's how i find those things |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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nengard |
nothing magic :) |
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wizzyrea |
is it convenience thing or a performance thing |
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owen |
...and it's a remnant of a time when the patron edit screen had been divided up into "wizard"-like steps |
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wizzyrea |
or both |
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wizzyrea |
or that |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 16:24 |
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wizzyrea |
well |
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owen |
...but now I think it's just a convenience thing |
| 16:25 |
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libtek |
I'd like to update the MARC record files from http://sourceforge.net/projects/marcpm/files/. I think this might fix my error. Has anyone ever done this? |
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wizzyrea |
it sort of makes sense to me to eliminate it... but there might be a lot of backlash on that |
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wizzyrea |
what if instead of the little edit links |
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wizzyrea |
you included a toolbar on the main edit screen "jump to: Main Address | Contact | Alt Address | etc" |
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wizzyrea |
wouldn't that simplify the template some? |
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wizzyrea |
it's also interesting to me that the manage patron image bit isn't in the "edit patron" screen |
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libtek |
Has anyone here applied this patch? http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ugust/004176.html |
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libtek |
Not sure what I should do - apply the patch or update the MARC record files. |
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jcamins |
libtek: We are running with MARC::Record 2.0.0 and it works fine, so it's probably not MARC::Record's version. |
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jcamins |
(you did say earlier you had version 2.0.0, right?) |
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libtek |
yes |
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libtek |
Then my other option is the patch. Do you know the steps to apply such a patch? |
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jcamins |
What version of Koha are you running? |
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libtek |
3.00.02.012 |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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libtek |
I'm sorry - I was just reminded of a meeting I have to attend. I'll stop by later about the patch. Thanks to everyone! |
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chris_n |
@later tell libtek you should upgrade to the latest stable release which is 3.0.6 found here: http://download.koha-community.org/ |
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munin` |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
I wanted to suggest that |
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chris_n |
@later tell libtek that patch was applied last year |
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munin` |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
we didn't back off of 3.0.6 did we? |
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chris_n |
he may have a bad record again |
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chris_n |
? |
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wizzyrea |
nothing, I'm losing my mind :( |
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* chris_n |
helps look for it :) |
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wizzyrea |
hm, and 3.0.06 hasn't been put on ohloh yet |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell chris were we going to put 3.0.06 on ohloh? |
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munin` |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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* chris_n |
wonders why mbreeding does not do a news release for the 3.0.6 release |
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wizzyrea |
brendan about? |
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wizzyrea |
irc usage fail. |
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wizzyrea |
(mine, not his) |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell brendan is the demo still running 3.01.00.124? Or is it up to Head? |
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munin` |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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wizzyrea |
speak of the devil >.> |
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* jdavidb |
perks up, then realizes that wizzyrea is speaking of the devil on the other coast. |
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wizzyrea |
hahahaha |
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wizzyrea |
brendan: see your tells |
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brendan |
? |
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wizzyrea |
is the demo still running 3.01.00.124? Or is it up to Head? |
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brendan |
gottacha now |
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brendan |
was at .124 |
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brendan |
I can update it... give me about 20 minutes and then I'll ping you that's it's updated |
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* wizzyrea |
realizes that she should have just looked at the dang thing |
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wizzyrea |
derrrrr. |
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wizzyrea |
it's no biggie, really, just wanted to make sure the website was accurate |
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brendan |
ah it was at 133 now it should be at 134 |
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chris_n |
seems we could setup a hook in git to sync the demo install with the main repo |
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wizzyrea |
is that 3.2.134? |
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wizzyrea |
I'm dumb. |
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wizzyrea |
gah sorry. |
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nmllib |
Hey guys, were you able to install Graphics::Magick 1.3.5 through CPAN? |
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wizzyrea |
I wasn't, I ended up doign it through apt |
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wizzyrea |
doing, even |
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brendan |
chris_n - we have the database refresh every hour - so doing git sync - would cause the web installer to appear every hour |
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brendan |
well eventually the next time the database is updated |
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chris_n |
hmm... maybe a separate script could trigger the updatedatabase.pl... that makes things complicated |
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* brendan |
doesn't mind gentle reminders to update demos |
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brendan |
ok all set Wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
woo! |
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wizzyrea |
updated |
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nmllib |
Does anyone have an RPM for GraphicsMagick? I have tried building 1.3.5 and higher from the source, but Koha's Makefile cannot find it |
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wizzyrea |
anyone have any suggestions for improved verbiage for this page? |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/get-[…]or-library-users/ |
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wizzyrea |
i'm not feeling very creative today |
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mib_mike |
wizzyrea: you could give some examples of the kinds of feedback you're looking for. |
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wizzyrea |
It's a new part of the site, I'm not sure I have any examples |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
but good idea |
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mib_mike |
wizzyrea: "What would make it even easier for you to use your library web site?" |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, good one |
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mib_mike |
"Is there anything that annoys you about your library's website?" |
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wizzyrea |
another fine example |
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mib_mike |
I'm not sure how you envision people arriving at that page. I suspect most library patrons aren't aware of Koha or any ILS. Something about what Koha is might be helpful. |
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wizzyrea |
I'm not sure either, actually |
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wizzyrea |
afk lunch |
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mib_mike |
I've got a problem with zebra indexing. |
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mib_mike |
It seems I've got some substandard marc somewhere. The rebuild zebra kicked back a record, but I'm not sure how I go about deleting that record to allow indexing to condinue |
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mib_mike |
"continue" |
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mib_mike |
Marc seems to be stored in many places, and I don't want to have "half records" |
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schuster |
I know at one time there was some talk about building a report engine that the user then could insert a variable. ie - select barcode, location from items where homebranch = "xxx" and location = "yyy" |
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schuster |
so that the user could select something for xxx and yyy without making them go through the guided reports step by step. |
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jcamins |
mib_mike: What about going directly to the edit biblio screen with the biblionumber? Like so: |
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jcamins |
http://[SERVER]:8080/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl?biblionumber=[BIBLIONUMBER] |
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schuster |
I have 67 locations and have hundreds of reports that I have had to duplicate for each location and link to a separate website. It would be soooo great if I could create the report once and people could run it as they needed with the appropriate variables. |
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jcamins |
(change [SERVER] and [BIBLIONUMBER] to the correct values for your installation, of course) |
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mib_mike |
jcamins: Let me check |
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joetho |
schuster: koha reports are a pretty big sore spot with a lot of librarians, and I don't think that is widely recognized. |
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joetho |
Librarians LOVE reports |
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joetho |
accurate ones, anyway |
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mib_mike |
jcamins: "Software error: Can't call method "title" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 894." |
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mib_mike |
jcamins: Is that because the zebra index doesn't include this record? |
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jcamins |
Hm. Sounds like you have something else going on there. |
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jcamins |
I don't think so, but a Zebra expert could correct me if I'm wrong. |
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mib_mike |
jcamins: That could very well be. Any ideas? |
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jcamins |
Do you have MARC::Record installed? |
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jcamins |
Actually, wait. Earlier question: did you go through the entire Koha installation procedure successfully? |
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mib_mike |
jcamins: yes, but it's the last alpha release. |
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jcamins |
Okay. Hm. |
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jcamins |
Nothing obvious is occurring to me, but I'm just a librarian who can read a bit of code. |
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jcamins |
What OS are you using? |
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mib_mike |
jcamins: Thanks for trying. Can you tell me the tables that should be purged of this record? |
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mib_mike |
jcamins: Ubuntu - it's an old release. |
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jcamins |
It seems to me that if you run "DELETE FROM biblio WHERE biblionumber='?'" the foreign keys should make the change propagate through the database, but you'd want to check with someone else. |
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jcamins |
How did you get the malformed MARC record into Koha in the first place? |
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mib_mike |
Thanks for your help, I'll look into the database structure for foreign keys |
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mib_mike |
I don't know how I got the bad MARC, but I'll find out. |
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chris |
morning |
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owen-away |
Hi chris |
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* owen |
has a whole new list of numbers to crunch for his library's statistics |
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mib_mike |
I'm still having trouble with rebuilding my zebra index |
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mib_mike |
I deleted the record that rebuild_zebra spit out at me, but |
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mib_mike |
I'm still getting: |
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mib_mike |
14:20:47-19/05 zebraidx(15525) [warn] MARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest |
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mib_mike |
14:20:47-19/05 zebraidx(15525) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) |
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mib_mike |
Can anybody suggest a course of action? |
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jcamins |
Did you get the MARC records from a previous ILS? |
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mib_mike |
Some of them, but the problems started when new MARC was added. |
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chris |
wizzyrea: https://www.ohloh.net/p/koha/d[…]0.x&release=3.0.6 |
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chris |
ill do the all translations one when i get to work |
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chris_n |
heya chris |
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brendan |
morning chris |
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chris |
hiy owen, chris_n and brendan |
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wizzyrea |
woot thanks chris |
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chris |
hi cait |
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chris |
right time to start the day, back after breakfast |
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wizzyrea |
mib_mike: I guess I envision very curious, technical savvy or library savvy patrons to end up there. |
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wizzyrea |
perhaps some day we'll add a link from the OPAC. |
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wizzyrea |
One thing I think we should do, as an aside |
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wizzyrea |
is make sure that every deployed koha opac has some kind of link back to k-c.org. It doesn't have to be big, or obvious |
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chris |
yeah some libraries have taken to putting copyright libraryname at the bottome |
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chris |
which is cool and all, but probably want koha there too |
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chris |
ok bus time |
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wizzyrea |
I mean, sirsi does that |
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wizzyrea |
"this library powered by <insert snarky comment here" |
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libtek |
I'm sorry folks. I have returned. :O |
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libtek |
I am currently working on the following error: |
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libtek |
Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92. |
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wizzyrea |
have you tried getting the latest version of koha |
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wizzyrea |
you said you were on 3.0.2 |
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wizzyrea |
we are up to 3.0.6 |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
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libtek |
Yes. And I found a patch at http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ugust/004176.html, but I have no clue how to apply it. |
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wizzyrea |
that patch would be in 3.0.6 |
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libtek |
Oi. I've barely got myself running. I hope an upgrade process is documented somewhere. |
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wizzyrea |
it shouldn't be too difficult |
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jcamins |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e537877b401d#l376 |
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jcamins |
Goodness. That's quite a URL. Sorry about that. |
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jcamins |
(before you follow those instructions, you need to download 3.0.6, of course) |
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jcamins |
(I have never actually done the upgrade myself, though, so I don't know much about it) |
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* jwagner |
snarls. About to go into my FOURTH meeting since 10:00 AM. When am I supposed to get any WORK done???? |
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wizzyrea |
O.O |
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wizzyrea |
you should suggest standing meetings |
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libtek |
So, I assume I will download the file into the build folder and then unpack it there, then the first line of the upgrade will be modified to read "perl Makefile.PL --/build/koha-3.00.02 /build/koha-3.00.06", is that right? |
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wizzyrea |
so they can never be too long |
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owen |
After that you escalate to jumping-jacks meetings |
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wizzyrea |
^^ exactly |
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jwagner |
I'd prefer to de-escalate to NO meetings :-( |
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wizzyrea |
after a week of jumping jack meetings everyone will be too tired to call meetings |
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jwagner |
But those of us with arthritic knees won't survive that long.... |
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wizzyrea |
an excuse to leave the meeting! |
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owen |
jwagner: You get to bow out under ADA rules |
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wizzyrea |
owen: great minds ;) |
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jwagner |
Now if I could just get building mgt to enforce the handicapped parking spots :-( |
| 19:28 |
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libtek |
wizzyrea: I'm starting to understand bits and pieces. :) I just do those 4 lines under upgrade, right? Do I need to reindex or anything after that? Restart the server? |
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jwagner |
Oh well, off to meeting land. See you all tomorrow. |
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jcamins |
libtek: Restarting would probably be a good idea. |
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wizzyrea |
you will probably have to do several things: 1. log in on the staff side and run the update script |
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wizzyrea |
2. reindex |
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wizzyrea |
not sure you actually need to restart the OS |
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wizzyrea |
(I never have) |
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wizzyrea |
(and 1 is automatic, you won't have to do anything) |
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wizzyrea |
(except maybe click next a couple of times) |
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libtek |
the web client will know that I need to run the update script? |
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jcamins |
I think when we upgraded we had to restart Apache. |
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jcamins |
But I wasn't actually the one running the upgrade, so I'm not sure that the instructions were followed. |
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libtek |
It's not like a restart would hurt, since this is only a test box. |
| 19:32 |
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wizzyrea |
yep, the web client wil lknow |
| 19:35 |
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libtek |
So, while I am waiting on the download...the installation guide I had been using was wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy. It said to download 3.00.06. Is that because it is a stable release, or is it just because it is out of date? |
| 19:36 |
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libtek |
excuse me.. |
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libtek |
it said to download 3.00.02 |
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wizzyrea |
it's out of dates |
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wizzyrea |
we are in the process of moving all of that stuff to a new wiki |
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* wizzyrea |
notes that we need to eliminate specific versions where possible |
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wizzyrea |
the instructions are all about the same for the 3.x versions |
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libtek |
Are you involved with the documentation? |
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wizzyrea |
everyone in the koha project is involved with documentation ;) |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
but nengard is really the doc manager |
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jcamins |
Is the border around the SQL box in the "Create Reports from SQL" screen invisible to anyone else (bug 4534)? |
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munin` |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4534 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Box for SQL not visible in "Create Report from SQL" |
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libtek |
wizzyrea: to clarify before I screw something up, where it says --prev-install-log, I am going to instead type --/build/koha-3.00.02, and where it says /path/to/koha-install-log, I am going to instead type /build/koha-3.00.06. I am for sure interpreting that correctly? |
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chris_n |
libtek: that does not look right |
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chris_n |
you can 'locate koha-install-log' to find its location |
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bgkriegel |
libtek: no, you must pass the option --prev-install-log /path /to/koha/prev/log, the last one normally on /usr/share/koha/koha-install-log |
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chris_n |
where did you see this: --/build/koha-3.00.02 |
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richard |
hi |
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libtek |
Sorry. I am trying to interpret the UPGRADE instructions wizzyrea pointed me to. This is why I am clarifying. :) So, as I understand it now, the command should read "per Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /usr/share/koha/koha-install-log". |
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libtek |
oops. should be perl, not per |
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libtek |
although, I show 3 locations for this file. One of them is located at /usr/share/koha/misc/, so I am assuming that is the correct one. The other two are in various locations in the /build/koha-3.00.02 folders |
| 20:26 |
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chris |
the usr/share one is right |
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wizzyrea |
yes, /usr/share should be the right path |
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libtek |
Thank you very mucho for the clarification. I'll get this done yet. And maybe, just maybe, I'll get to catalog something too. :) |
| 20:40 |
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libtek |
I have two issues at the end of the Makefile that came up... |
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libtek |
Warning: prerequisite Biblio::EndnoteStyle 0.05 not found. |
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libtek |
Warning: prerequisite Biblio::EndnoteStyle 0.05 not found. |
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libtek |
[Wed May 19 13:39:30 2010] Makefile.PL: Warning: prerequisite Text::CSV::Encoded 0.09 not found. |
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libtek |
I assume I need to CPAN these and then rerun the Makefile update again. |
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wizzyrea |
uep |
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libtek |
worked like a charm. :D Not bad for improvising. Now I'll do the rest. :) |
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wizzyrea |
:) good luck |
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libtek |
The only issue that came up on the make test was "Use of uninitialized value $string in split at test.pl line 9. |
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libtek |
should I ignore it and move on or is this a major concern? |
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chris_n |
libtek: ignore for now |
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libtek |
I can create records!!!!! Hooray!!!!!!! |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
3.0.6++ |
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* wizzyrea |
does a little dance for libtek |
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wizzyrea |
that wasn't so painful :) |
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libtek |
It's painful every time I have to beg for help. :/ I feel like a freakin 6th grader again. |
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chris_n |
great news libtek |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt bug 4224 - when we looked at this it looked good, 3.4? |
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munin` |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4224 major, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, ASSIGNED, Holds queue report includes items already allocated |
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wizzyrea |
libtek: we have all been there |
| 21:59 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm sure there's probably only 1 person in this channel that hasn't felt like a 6th grader at some point in their koha career. |
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libtek |
* libtek trips while celebrating |
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larsw |
I wish I would feel like a 6th grader. It'd be a big improvement. |
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chris |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
later peeps |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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libtek |
Okay. Got a puzzler. I created my record. I can scan the barcode on checkin to find it, but if I do a plain old search for it, I don't get anything. Any ideas? |
| 22:07 |
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libtek |
The record is there. Search just doesn't find it. |
| 22:09 |
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joetho |
libtek: be patient |
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joetho |
ummmm |
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larsw |
libtek, if you're using zebra, the index has probably not been updated yet |
| 22:09 |
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joetho |
zebra index |
| 22:10 |
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libtek |
I went to the koha account and ran "perl /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null |
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joetho |
manual or cron |
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joetho |
manual |
| 22:10 |
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joetho |
that sounds right. |
| 22:10 |
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libtek |
it's also in the crontab, but for testing I ran it manually. |
| 22:11 |
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joetho |
how to test to see if zebra has been re-indexed? |
| 22:11 |
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libtek |
?? |
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libtek |
I also ran it with the -v switch, and I didn't see any errors. |
| 22:12 |
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chris |
is zebrasrv running? |
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libtek |
how can I tell? |
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larsw |
pgrep -lf zebrasrv (on linux) |
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libtek |
doesn't respond with anything |
| 22:14 |
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libtek |
in ubuntu |
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chris |
yeah then its not running |
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chris |
did you set up the init.d job and start it? |
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libtek |
I turned off and disabled the daemon. Is this the same thing? |
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chris |
no |
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chris |
that was the zebraqueue daemon, you still want the zebrasrv running |
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libtek |
I don't think I see the instructions to start just the zebrasrv |
| 22:17 |
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libtek |
Is there a way to set this up to turn on automatically? |
| 22:18 |
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chris |
looking at the INSTALL.ubuntu ? |
| 22:18 |
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chris |
and yes, it tells you exactly that |
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chris |
look around line 304 |
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libtek |
Let me look. I've been going off a wiki guide this whole time. |
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libtek |
okay. Got it. I'll do that. The docs have been confusing, between options and Zebra Server and Zebraqueue Daemons. I think I understand better. |
| 22:31 |
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libtek |
that did it. Now I just have to figure out why I have 12 results. :) |
| 22:32 |
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chris |
run your rebuild with -r instead of -z .. just once, to flush and rebuild hte index from scratch |
| 22:32 |
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chris |
it probably has all the records from your other attempts indexed |
| 22:38 |
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libtek |
I've got 12 results in the catalog, and 46 in the reservoir. This may be all my attempts, mixed with the fact that I don't really understand the koha cataloging procedures. So, I think I know how to delete the catalog listings. Not sure how to get things out of the reservoir. |
| 22:38 |
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joetho |
time to revisit the care and feeding of the zebra |
| 22:38 |
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joetho |
clarity in the dox |
| 22:39 |
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chris |
patches accepted joetho |
| 22:39 |
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joetho |
although, until I start actually doing the heavy lifting of dox editing, I should shut up |
| 22:39 |
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joetho |
That is however an area I think I would be good at. |
| 22:39 |
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joetho |
Tomorrow. |
| 22:40 |
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joetho |
I like working with Nicole. |
| 22:40 |
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libtek |
okay. I can edit the records, but I actually don't see a way to delete them. |
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| 22:43 |
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libtek |
chris: do you know how to delete records? |
| 22:43 |
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chris |
from where? |
| 22:43 |
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chris |
the catalogue? |
| 22:43 |
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libtek |
cataloging |
| 22:43 |
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chris |
not in cataloguing |
| 22:43 |
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chris |
just search for one |
| 22:43 |
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chris |
in the staff interface |
| 22:44 |
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libtek |
okay |
| 22:44 |
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chris |
then click on edit |
| 22:44 |
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chris |
choose delete |
| 22:44 |
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libtek |
ah |
| 22:46 |
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libtek |
and I take it they continue to show until the cron job runs |
| 22:46 |
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chris |
yep |
| 22:49 |
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libtek |
I'm getting it. |
| 22:50 |
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libtek |
I notice the icon for the item type is not displaying correctly on the results, but when you click on the record and the items are shown below the record, it displays correctly. |
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