Time  Nick       Message
23:56 chris      running again
23:50 chris      well 2076 to be exact
23:49 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2075 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, complete opac/opac-showreviews.pl
23:49 chris      exploded at bug 2075
23:49 chris      dangit
23:48 chris      fixed
23:48 chris      cpan Koha::Zoloft
23:48 larsw      if only everything was so easily solved
23:45 chris      koha has problems that can be fixed by zoloft apparently
23:41 chris      created bogus bugs and all
23:40 chris      someone used the upload attachments to try and spam
23:40 chris      ive found that sometime in 2007
23:40 chris      oh interesting
23:37 chris      heh
23:37 larsw      robin, don't tempt him...
23:37 robin      you know, if you just started from a fresh database, it'd be like you had no bugs and could go straight to release.
23:35 chris      we are gonna have to fix munin now
23:35 chris      1/4 of the way there
23:34 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1013 normal, P2, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, RESOLVED FIXED, marclist gets chopped
23:34 chris      bug 1013 imported
23:07 * chris    goes back to work
23:07 genji      is it mentioned in the installer?
23:07 chris      google will tell you that
23:07 chris      :)
23:07 chris      right you arent using it
23:07 genji      okay.. what is oai-pmh?
23:07 chris      im 99% certain that if you dont know what that is, you wont be using it ;)
23:06 chris      the oai-pmh part
23:06 genji      what part of koha uses http::oai?
23:06 genji      i believe its designed to filter out bad bytes before it gets to the xml parser.. and kills that records processing.
23:05 chris      id ignore it
23:05 chris      but if you arent planing to use http::oai and its stopping you doing something else
23:05 chris      probably not
23:05 genji      the badbytes test is unimportant?
23:05 genji      force it?
23:04 chris      just make install
23:04 chris      yes
23:03 genji      tried manually installing it from the tarball cpan downloaded... still errors.
23:03 chris      and installing it from the commandline
23:02 chris      you might be better off just grabbing the tarball from cpan
23:02 chris      genji: from packages.debian.org
23:02 chris      or you can just install it from the commandline
23:01 genji      hmm..okay. how do i get it?
23:00 chris      http::oai
23:00 genji      deb of?
23:00 chris      get the .deb from squeeze and try that instead
23:00 genji      03badbytes.t, the second test of 3.
22:59 genji      HTTP::OAI tests bad, so it won't install
22:59 libtek     goodnight everyone!
22:59 libtek     That's great.  Thanks!  This is awesome!
22:59 chris      3605
22:59 genji      im having trouble installing koha3 .0.6
22:59 genji      hiya all
22:55 wizzyrea   you may have to poke around to find the one you want
22:55 wizzyrea   in the  / koha-tmpl / intranet-tmpl / prog / en / modules /  you'll find all of the templates
22:55 libtek     Thank you!
22:55 wizzyrea   / koha-tmpl / intranet-tmpl / prog / en / modules / circ / hold-transfer-slip.tmpl
22:54 libtek     Please.  :)
22:54 libtek     Would you be able to point me to where the templates reside?
22:53 wizzyrea   you have to modify those in the template
22:52 libtek     chris: Thanks.  Those are notices.  What I would like to modify (if possible) is the hold slip that prints when the hold is triggered.  Not the notification to the patron for pickup.
22:47 chris      http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/tools/notices
22:45 libtek     Anyone know if there is a way to customize the holds slips?  (i.e. what to print and how to print it?)
22:39 hdl_laptop chris woot
22:36 brendan    nice
22:29 chris      files all being sucked down now
21:55 brendan    party pooper
21:55 munin      brendan: Error: "we" is not a valid command.
21:55 brendan    munin we are excited how about you?
21:55 brendan    w00t two minutes
21:54 chris      in 3 mins it will
21:53 larsw      brendan, I think chris is working on it now
21:52 brendan    bugs.koha-community.org++
21:52 * brendan  excited for new bugs database
21:51 brendan    Has Bug transfer commenced
21:37 wizzyrea   (this would be the only time I would link you to koha.org.)
21:37 wizzyrea   libtek: you may want to consult the manual: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0
21:29 gpal       I have tried to add field << 026$e Fingerprint >>  as Record matching rules --- but I am unable to get it working !!!
21:20 gpal       I have some data without ISBN numbers, there are quite a few multiple records but they all end up separately after the import...
21:19 gpal       hi, I need some guidelines for using "Record matching rules"
21:18 libtek     Anyone know of a way to turn off circulation history?
21:08 CGI817     with multiple copies each) -- none of them have an isbn --- these records have been converted to marc from an excel db--- how can i ensure that each record gets added only once
21:06 CGI817     hi folks, need some help for importing data
20:49 libtek     um, that is BUG, not but.  :/
20:47 libtek     I'll report the but if anyone can confirm this on their end.
20:41 cait       good night all
20:39 libtek     Anyone see this?
20:39 libtek     I'm searching bugs, but not finding this one: Placed a hold on an on shelf item.  Holds to Pull report shows the item, but there is a listing below (doesn't matter how many items) called undefined.  Doesn't appear if there are no holds waiting.
20:36 CGI266     I was looking on the link above.  MARC is still strange!
20:34 gmcharlt   CGI266: you may be thinking of the 008/00-06
20:34 richard    hi
20:34 gmcharlt   CGI266: date the record was last updated, to be precise, not just when it was first created
20:34 CGI266     MARC is strange!
20:34 munin      schuster: The operation succeeded.
20:34 schuster   @later tell jdavidb - yes use line was missing.
20:33 CGI266     I found a title of ....Last transaction but a definition of ....first put in .....
20:32 joetho     Marc records make me crazy.
20:32 joetho     I thought it was the date modiffied- the originals have all sorts of dates, including verrrrry recent
20:31 joetho     hmmmm, wonder if that's how they got all crazy.
20:31 CGI266     It is the date the record  was first put in elect format, does not really affect the needed portions - http://www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/hd005.html
20:31 joetho     actually, I should do that anyway, because I modified the bedonkey out of all of em.
20:30 joetho     right- I could pick some date last week or something.
20:30 joetho     oh I can change them in marcedit easy enough, but I REALLY donm't want to have to try and restore them to their original 005 tag.
20:29 gmcharlt   joetho: it affect the bib record date/time last modified search, but that wouldn't be a big deal
20:29 chrisdroid Ie no point loading bad records, ok bus ride over back in a bit
20:29 joetho     I don't see anything wrong with making them all some date last week or something
20:29 CGI266     does marcedit have a seach/correct record function?  Have to look at that one again.
20:28 joetho     (the 13,000 records have bad 005 tags now)
20:28 joetho     I am importing 13,000 records and my 005 tags are now jacked up, no idea what happened. ...Anyone know what happens if I change all my 005 tags to the same number?
20:28 chrisdroid But id do the cleanup as part of the migration
20:27 CGI266     even if it is run occasionally by a sysadmin on request, it would only need to be run about once a year if that.  usually it would get run after a transition from another ILS
20:27 chrisdroid Import them choosing to replace
20:27 chrisdroid Change them
20:27 chrisdroid Export a batch or records
20:27 chrisdroid But for now marcedit will do it
20:26 chrisdroid Well it will need an interface nicer than the commandline :)
20:25 CGI266     does not have to be pretty for now, just functional adn reliable
20:24 chrisdroid And that helps all koha users:)
20:24 chrisdroid its not hard I've done it on the cli, building a nice interface is the trick
20:23 CGI266     possibility
20:23 chrisdroid Or for some fraction of ur license costs could hire a developer to write that
20:23 CGI266     It will do the entire catalog or segments en-bulk, not one at a time
20:22 CGI266     The Follett recon does it by scanning outside z39.50 sources adn allows you to accept the changes into your system
20:22 chrisdroid Or you could script it
20:22 joetho     good call numbers?
20:21 chrisdroid Id use marcedit for that
20:21 joetho     that is an ugly job, cgi266
20:21 CGI266     Destiny does have this feature so  it will be hard to get the librarians off of it, but the cost of the system is stagering.
20:21 CGI266     I have several libraries on Follett Destiny now.  Big feature needed is to clean up records to a standardized format.  They would like to do the entire catalog at one time.
20:20 joetho     I just killed all my 005 tags
20:20 gmcharlt   chrisdroid: no bells ringing in my mind either
20:19 chrisdroid Its not ringing bells for 3.2 either .... gmcharlt?
20:19 chrisdroid 3.0.6 is a stable bugfix release so won't have new features
20:16 CGI266     might have been reading about 3.2.0
20:16 CGI266     I just loaded 3.0.6 and am trying to find any information related to the function
20:15 chrisdroid Or are you asking about the upcoming 3.2.0?
20:15 chrisdroid 3.0.6 was going to have that?
20:13 chrisdroid Thanks :)
20:12 CGI266     REad somewhere that is was going to have a recon feature for scanning an entire catalog.  did it make it in?
20:11 hdl_laptop chrisdroid: HAPPY BIRTHDAY in the buss
20:11 CGI266     Have a question about the new release of Koha
20:11 hdl_laptop yes
20:10 CGI266     Any one there?
20:09 CGI266     Hello?
20:08 CGI266     Hello?
20:06 chrisdroid So far it uses very little cos everyone is quiet :)
19:53 chrisc2    Let's see how much irc on bus uses
19:52 AndChat|   Bought myself a bigger data cap
19:49 hdl_laptop birthday
19:49 hdl_laptop happy virtday chris cormack
19:47 cait       joetho, what year?
19:45 chris      cyas in a bit
19:45 chris      right bus time
19:45 chris      heh
19:43 cm         happy b-day!
19:43 brendan    Happy Birthday chris
19:42 joetho     I feel SUPER young now!
19:42 joetho     wow one chris is 69 and the other one is 73
19:39 chris_n    ahh... neat
19:38 chris      te po atarau is one on the 31st
19:38 chris_n    69 for me
19:37 chris        73
19:37 chris_n    what year chris?
19:36 chris_n    happy birthday chris
19:36 * cait     hugs chris
19:36 chris_n    wow, two chris's both with birthdays in May
19:36 cait       happy birthday chris
19:36 * jwagner  breaks into song -- Happy Birthday!
19:36 cait       oooh
19:35 chris      heh, thanks joetho
19:33 joetho     HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS CORMACK
19:27 chris      ohh and now we can add a link to perldoc too :)
19:27 wizzyrea   hehe ok
19:27 chris      you'll have to tell me how to get the logo to show without it looking bustinated
19:26 hdl_laptop Which talked about RFCs putting on wiki first and then post bugs.
19:26 wizzyrea   oh hey, you got ahead of me lol
19:26 chris      http://download.koha-community.org/
19:26 gmcharlt   cool
19:26 wizzyrea   we may need to update it
19:26 chris      gmcharlt: i did some work on download.koha-community.org last night, wizzyrea might have to fix it
19:26 wizzyrea   Those are just ones being brought over from the old wiki
19:25 owen       Whoa that enhancement submission diagram is a monster!
19:25 hdl_laptop wizzyrea gmcharlt: I thought there was a discussion on koha-devel recently about enhancement workflow.
19:18 jwagner    Speaking of the wiki, see http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:rfcs3.2:rfc32_multiple_opac -- I see it says you can limit by item type or collection code.  Does anyone know if you can limit by multiple collection codes?
19:17 sekjal     gmcharlt: I've heard some folks say the musical commentary track for Dr. Horrible is better than the music itself
19:09 wizzyrea   oh good idea adding dev docs to the documentation page
19:08 * wizzyrea is cleaning up links to old koha.org stuffs
19:07 wizzyrea   want to*
19:07 wizzyrea   http://koha-community.org/get-involved/for-developers/
19:07 wizzyrea   anything else you wantt o link to from here?
19:07 * wizzyrea has been more than a little addicted to Torchwood lately
19:07 wizzyrea   hehe!
19:06 gmcharlt   I started on the musical commentary track, but didn't have time to finish - I'll be curious to see if they managed to keep it up the entire time
19:05 gmcharlt   I did
19:04 wizzyrea   hehe, did you like it?
19:04 gmcharlt   speaking of power-mad villians, I saw Dr. Horrible's sing along blog for the first time last night
19:03 wizzyrea   brilliant, thanks
19:03 gmcharlt   wizzyrea: it's gone
19:03 wizzyrea   ;)
19:03 * wizzyrea didn't ask for it, you'll note
19:03 wizzyrea   MUA HAHAHAHAHAHA
19:03 * owen     warns Don't do it she's mad with power!
19:03 wizzyrea   <3 thanks
19:03 wizzyrea   yep, that's the one
19:02 gmcharlt   http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Enhancement_Submission_Guidelines ?
19:02 wizzyrea   enhancement submission guidelines
19:02 gmcharlt   which page?
19:02 gmcharlt   not that I'd mind giving you that
19:02 wizzyrea   aha
19:02 gmcharlt   wizzyrea: your wiki account needs to be an administrator to do that
19:00 wizzyrea   I accidentally created a dupe
19:00 wizzyrea   der, how do you delete a wiki page?
18:54 joetho     particularly since this is a new clean install- I thought the zebrasrv notes may be apropos
18:53 joetho     whoops, make that 22:00
18:52 joetho     http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-05-19
18:52 joetho     you may find this earlier zebra discussion useful, starts around 20:00
18:50 wizzyrea   omg gmcharlt.... perldoc.koha-community.org = wowie!
18:49 nelsonlib  But items has no records, let me fix that and see what will happen
18:49 joetho     so zebra
18:49 nelsonlib  Yeah, it looks like my biblio and biblioitems tables are full
18:49 nelsonlib  Haha
18:48 joetho     "full clean install" =
18:47 nelsonlib  Ok, let me take a look at my items table
18:47 * owen     isn't sure a zebra index could be out of date based on a previous install?
18:46 owen       If your zebra index isn't up to date it might be showing you items which aren't there.
18:46 owen       Take the biblionumber from one of the titles in your search results which says it has items. Query the items table based on that
18:45 owen       nelsonlib: The items table is the one which stores holdings.
18:44 nelsonlib  Hah possibly
18:44 joetho     It's evidently a Nelson thing.
18:43 owen       :)
18:43 nelsonlib  owen: I work at the Nelson Memorial Library around Worcester, MA
18:43 joetho     !
18:43 nelsonlib  So I suppose, the question is: what DB tables need to be filled in order for all of the appropriate information to appear
18:43 nelsonlib  However, I am experiencing a problem where I can see that the record has items in the 'Search' view, but no holdings or items are displayed in the record details
18:42 owen       Hi nelsonlib, I work at the Nelsonville Public Library. Do you too?
18:42 nelsonlib  And am trying to import the biblios and items from the previous 3.00.04 install's DB backup
18:41 nelsonlib  hey everyone, I've recently done a fullly clean install of the latest download from git
18:40 hdl_laptop (perldoc.koha-community.org)
18:40 owen       Sure IE8 is more standards compliant, but it's still /really damn slow/!
18:40 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: nice.
18:39 * chris_n  hands owen a bag of Cheetos
18:39 chris_n    hehe
18:39 * owen     ...and got hives from using IE for 10 minutes
18:38 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3774 minor, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, Original Cataloging leading to duplicate biblio records in Internet Explorer
18:38 * owen     tried again and failed to reproduce Bug 3774
18:32 libtek     going to lunch...be back in an hour.  :)
18:30 libtek     Anyway, it works.
18:30 libtek     when I run it manually, I get the same results.  If I use the -z it doesn't work, but the -r switch does.  From the koha user.
18:29 libtek     as far as I know, it is.  I'm not changing anything else when running the rebuild, so I'm not sure why -r will do it and -z won't.
18:28 chris_n    libtek: I seem to recall similar issues caused by permission problems: everything zebra related must be owned by your kohauser
18:27 libtek     by the way, I changed out the -z switch with the -r switch instead on the rebuild in crontab, and the job is reindexing properly now.  Don't know why it doesn't work per the instructions.
18:26 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3774 minor, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, Original Cataloging leading to duplicate biblio records in Internet Explorer
18:26 * owen     still can't reproduce Bug 3774
18:26 chrisd     chris_n cool.  Thanks for the help
18:26 * chris_n  thinks one zebra is hard enough to handle, much less a whole queue of them ;-)
18:25 libtek     chris_n: woohoo!  :)
18:25 chris_n    it is deprecated due to an unresolved memory leak among other issues
18:25 chris_n    chrisd: there are patches in the queue to remove references to zebraqueue from the INSTALL documentation
18:24 owen       (the most security-backwards IT policy ever)
18:24 libtek     owen: yep
18:24 libtek     chrisd: you are not alone.  I suffered the same problem when I was getting things up (a day or two ago!)
18:23 owen       libtek: Definitely unfortunate. IT policy?
18:23 chrisd     chris_n: :) ok still confused as to why it's in the instructions then.  I'm missing the big picture bear with me.
18:22 libtek     at least there is a work around.  Using another browser is not an option unfortunately.
18:22 libtek     owen: yep, the bug is specific to adding the holding at the same time you add the bib.  It behaves much better adding it separately.  Too bad. :( Doing both at the same time really streamlined things.
18:20 chris_n    :)
18:20 chris_n    ie. never run it, ever
18:20 chris_n    chrisd: you should permanently remove zebraqueue
18:18 chrisd     chris_n: but zebraqueue is supposed to run at startup?
18:15 chris_n    correct
18:15 chrisd     chris_n: ok.  so rebuild_zebra.pl is what adds the record to the index?
18:11 chris_n    chrisd: you should never run zebraqueue daemon; setup rebuild_zebra.pl to run as a cronjob every N minutes where N is whatever works for your catalogers
18:08 libtek     I'll try adding the bib and then adding the holding later and see if there is any difference.
18:07 * owen     tries it
18:07 libtek     owen: I was just going to mention that.  I think that might be where part of the issue lies.
18:06 owen       libtek: But I don't know that I tried to add an item at the same time as you say you did
18:06 owen       libtek: Yes
18:05 jdavidb    there can be only one!
18:05 libtek     owen: are you the Owen L that commented on this bug?
18:05 owen       I've only begun to look at the bug, and I don't know where the problem lies yet.
18:04 libtek     Nice.  Anyone know if this is something that has to be corrected in IE, or in Koha?
18:02 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3774 minor, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, NEW, Original Cataloging leading to duplicate biblio records in Internet Explorer
18:02 owen       Bug 3774
18:02 libtek     IE8
18:00 owen       libtek: What's your browser?
18:00 chrisd     I think i'm not getting the big picture of what zebraqueue and rebuild_zebra.pl does
17:59 chrisd     Is this the order i'm supposed to do it in?  Load records -> rebuild_zebra.pl -> Turn zebraqueue on
17:58 libtek     Does this happen to anyone else?  When I import a record from z39.50 and then add an item, I end up with two bibs for the item and the item is attached to one of them, and the other bib has no holdings.
17:58 chrisd     I've loaded 10000 records with zebraqueue off and then after the load I turned it on and it was putting a load on the processor.  Then I turned it off and ran rebuild_zebra.pl and then turned it on again and was ok
17:51 chris_n    chrisd: zebraqueue should not be run at all
17:40 chrisd     Hi all.  I'm trying to still figure some things out zebra and i figured I would ask here.  What is the difference between zebraqueue and the rebuild_zebra.pl script?  In normal day to day cataloging should the zebraqueue be running?
17:36 chris_n    heay chris_n`
17:29 gmcharlt   merging those would be good - I like the code formatting from the former, the TOC from the other
17:28 gmcharlt   wizzyrea: I notice that there is both http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Coding_Guidelines
17:24 collum     I second that.  gmcharlt++
17:23 cait       gmcharlt++ :)
17:22 gmcharlt   the HTML gets refreshed daily
17:20 collum     ah
17:20 gmcharlt   missing a space between the =head1 DESCRIPTION and the next paragraph
17:20 gmcharlt   collum: yep, that's due to bad POD
17:19 collum     http://perldoc.koha-community.org/acqui/supplier.html
17:19 gmcharlt   collum: quite possibly - depends on what you mean by strange formatting
17:19 collum     gmcharlt: does some of the strange formatting come from the associated perl file?
17:18 collum     that is cool
17:17 gmcharlt   suggestions to changes to the stylesheet welcome
17:16 chris_n    it has some strange formatting in some places, but looks nice overall
17:15 chris_n    cool
17:03 gmcharlt   http://perldoc.koha-community.org/
16:35 libtek     I am finding if I run the rebuild manually "/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null", it runs, but nothing changes.  If I change the -z switch to a -r switch, it runs, and the changes take affect.  Any ideas?  Should I change this switch in the crontab?  Any issues with doing it this way?  I don't really know what the switches do yet.
16:29 libtek     I have */5 * * * * KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null set as the koha user, but nothing has happened yet.
16:28 libtek     Anyone know how to confirm that the crontab is running?
16:22 schuster   renewal question - when I check out the book it makes it due next year 5/18/2011 like it should.  If I renew another book on that borrower it only renews it for 30 days.  ???
16:12 * jdavidb  is the wierd hippy peacenik.
16:12 jdavidb    I've been investing in big bags of Drama Llama Chow in my MMO.  Very annoying for a non-pk environment.
16:12 * wizzyrea can't help it... she likes mucking about with weird online tools
16:11 jdavidb    Once is a bad idea; twice is masochism...more than that...
16:11 wizzyrea   gamers are fun... until they're not
16:10 wizzyrea   I know!
16:10 jdavidb    you really *are* a masochist, aren't you, wizzyrea?
16:10 wizzyrea   < can say that, as I have shepherded several WoW guilds' web presences
16:05 wizzyrea   :P
16:05 wizzyrea   forums only seem to work for WoW guilds
16:05 wizzyrea   ^^ agreed
16:05 * owen     pretty much hates forums because it requires visiting a web site again and again and that's so 2003.
16:05 wizzyrea   hm maybe threaded comments would suffice.
16:04 owen       If we're the ones who are going to be answering questions, we need to limit the venues if we're to keep up
16:04 wizzyrea   ok, yea that's what I thought
16:04 owen       People have proposed it in the past, but the consensus among developers is that it would distract from the mailing list, and would be too much to keep track of
16:03 wizzyrea   < wondering because we keep getting people asking questions in unpublished posts on the site, lol
16:02 wizzyrea   nobody wants a forum type thing for koha, right?
16:02 wizzyrea   I think I've asked this before... and I kind of remember the answer
15:59 wizzyrea   hehe
15:59 owen       I'll subscribe even though I end up seeing a comment from Ben Ide in the process
15:58 owen       wordpress++
15:58 owen       wizzyrea++
15:57 wizzyrea   http://koha-community.org/comments/feed/
15:51 wizzyrea   it's wordpress, there should be
15:51 wizzyrea   good question... let me look
15:51 owen       wizzyrea: Is there a site-wide feed for comments on koha-community.org?
15:37 wizzyrea   suppose we should ask for clarification
15:36 wizzyrea   anybody have any idea what he is referring to? http://koha-community.org/download-koha/comment-page-1/#comment-469
15:32 wizzyrea   okies fixed
15:30 chris_n    in the 3.4 proposals
15:30 chris_n    maybe they should wrap
15:29 chris_n    looks fine to me; there are some lines near the bottom that run out of the window
15:29 wizzyrea   but you could add that as a meeting agenda item :)
15:29 wizzyrea   mostly I want to know if I mucked anything up converting the wiki syntax
15:29 wizzyrea   chris_n: I should note that I didn't write that, I just converted it fromt he old wiki to the new
15:27 chris_n    wizzyrea, gmcharlt: personally, I'd like to see the license section moved to the license section of the pod so that it shows up when one does perldoc C4::foo
15:26 nengard    chris_n yeah - it's just that I wasn't doing it on the server, so I didn't think it would help :)
15:25 chris_n    but gmcharlt has answered the question :)
15:25 chris_n    nengard: what I meant was that I believe there are regexps in there that would serve to to that conversion
15:14 libtek     then sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start
15:14 libtek     then the sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults
15:14 wizzyrea   sheesh
15:14 wizzyrea   omgosh, just answered a question from like an hour ago
15:13 libtek     I did the sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
15:13 wizzyrea   anybody who has a minute
15:13 wizzyrea   but please look this over for correctness
15:13 wizzyrea   http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
15:13 wizzyrea   and yea, I've probably mentioned it several times
15:13 wizzyrea   gmcharlt: <3 I love ethat idea
15:12 libtek     The indexes are showing, as I had to turn it on to see things in the catalog.  However, that is all I know at this point.
15:11 libtek     I turned it on.  Is there a way I can check the status?
15:10 jwagner    libtek, the every-5-minute cron won't do anything if the zebra daemon itself isn't running.  Have you checked that?
15:08 libtek     Anyone know how to confirm that the crontab is running?  I've got a job in it to reindex every 5 minutes, but it hasn't done it yet.
15:07 nengard    but with this i should be able to figure it out - or if someone wants to write it for marcedit i'll take it :)
15:07 nengard    a different story
15:07 nengard    gmchart, yes it is
15:06 gmcharlt   marcedit is a different story, of course
15:06 gmcharlt   yep, in context of Koha code, C4::Dates routines shoudl be preferred over custom date manipulation code
15:06 nengard    i'm using it in marcedit chris_n - so i just needed the regex
15:05 gmcharlt   that will work better
15:05 chris_n    see also C4::Dates
15:05 gmcharlt   nengard: in Perl, $date =~ s/^(\d{4})(\d{2})(\d{2}).*/$1-$2-$3/;
15:05 nengard    ?
15:05 gmcharlt   gah
15:05 nengard    that should be a-ok
15:05 gmcharlt   assuming that you care only about the date portion, and not the time
15:05 nengard    gmcharlt you rock!
15:04 gmcharlt   nengard: in Perl, $date =~ s/^(\d{4})(\d{2})(\d{2})/$1-$2-$3/;
15:01 kmkale     bye all
15:00 nengard    need me some regex help .... can anyone tell me the regex to change this date: 20100312124151.0  into a mysql friendly date?
14:59 owen       Nice: http://library.ashs.school.nz/
14:59 owen       Did y'all see massoud's email to the list about that NZ high school OPAC?
14:21 nengard    oops - wrong window - sorry
14:21 nengard    yes
14:20 libtek     Anyone know how to confirm that the crontab is running?  I've got a job in it to reindex every 5 minutes, but it hasn't done it yet.
14:20 schuster   Slip and full.  Anyone else have that or did I screw something else up when I modified my moremember-print.tmpl?
14:19 schuster   Odd thing though...  I placed a hold and filled it but that isn't showing up on the print options even though it looks to be coded...???
14:18 schuster   So I can make my local customizations again and recreate if needed.  Some of the things I "tweak" are really Plano ISD related.
14:18 libtek     Good morning.
14:10 jwagner    owen, it's filed next to clay tablets :-)
14:07 * owen     contemplates this "paper" uncomprehendingly
14:04 schuster   owen - OH MY GOSH - that was just too easy.   It's the little things.  AND YES - I keep paper copies and notes of all these types of changes I do on my production server for future upgrades.
13:57 schuster   The more I learn the more money I need for enhancements!
13:57 schuster   I feel a new enhancement coming on...  If I could do the overdue - warning page - and when that comes up with my data - say "print" and it used the moremembers-print.tmpl as the template to generate the printout...  PERFECT!
13:55 owen       Nice idea schuster
13:54 schuster   Doesn't make me shudder makes me go hmmm great idea!  My librarians really like the format of this moremembers-print.tmpl - if only I could force a run of ID's through it to get printouts on demand...
13:53 * jdavidb  shudders a little more.
13:52 jwagner    And just to make schuster and jdavidb REALLY shudder -- I think it would be most useful if the circ slips (and acq suggestion messages) got transformed into notice files, so libraries could edit the text themselves :-)
13:51 jwagner    owen, sorry, conflating two different suggestions.  The opac-detail tabs have IDs, but the patron account tabs don't
13:49 owen       Are you talking about the tabs on opac-detail for Normal, MARC, etc?
13:48 jwagner    owen, doesn't look like it.
13:47 owen       jwagner: Aren't they already marked with IDs?
13:46 jwagner    I think I may go ahead and just add markup IDs to all the tabs so people can hide individual ones if needed.
13:46 owen       Item call number would be better to show than item type
13:45 jwagner    nengard, yes, that would do what I want for patron details.
13:45 jwagner    Sorry, folks, got pulled away for a quickie meeting, catching up.
13:44 schuster   I'll see about getting my support company to do that submission as I don't have anything close to head right now.
13:44 * owen     is pretty sure that template hasn't been changed in years
13:44 * jdavidb  shudders a little
13:43 owen       I would think it would be a worthwhile change to make officially
13:43 schuster   Way cool thanks owen.  makes jwagner and jdavidb shutter... :)
13:43 owen       schuster: If you wanted to hack the template you'd open up moremember-print.tmpl and add <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="barcode" -->
13:43 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4127 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, make OPACPatronDetails a choice with 3 options
13:43 nengard_   jwagner if you mean the patron details - see Bug 4127
13:43 schuster   ok :) smiles to you...
13:42 nengard_   talking to jwagner
13:42 schuster   nengard_ - talking to schuster?
13:42 nengard_   when you talk about the patron account are you talking about the info about the patron? or the 'fines' ?
13:42 nengard_   jwagner - just catching up
13:40 owen       "format" is definitely incorrect, since not all libraries use collection codes as format designators
13:40 schuster   members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=157443&amp;print=page - end of url for print page.
13:39 schuster   owen - or others question...  On the borrower - print - not the slip but the full record - it doesn't have barcode, but has "format".  Is that easy to change?  I can't figure out where that is being called from.
13:36 nahuel     kyle_away, ping
13:36 schuster   We have generally put donor in as a 500 general note or on the item record itself - copy statement.
13:33 kmkale     :( any tag for donor of a book? there is a column for Donor
13:26 munin      kmkale: Availability information concerning a different physical format in which the described item is available. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,u,3,6,8]
13:26 kmkale     @marc 530
13:26 munin      kmkale: unknown tag 530$b
13:26 kmkale     @marc 530$b
13:26 munin      kmkale: Information needed to order the item or its reproduction. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,f,g,n,6,8]
13:26 kmkale     @marc 037
13:24 kmkale     one more please. freeform name of the supplier 037$b or 530$b ?
13:18 jwagner    (Enhanced Content would have to be its own separate page, I think)
13:18 jwagner    Right now the relevant sysprefs are scattered around, mostly under OPAC but some under searching and I think some under patron & admin.
13:17 jwagner    It would certainly make new installs easier -- present the site with all the options in one place
13:17 gmcharlt   yeah, I think somebody (wizzyrea?) mentioned the idea of having OPAC configuration be done using a more widget-based approach, a la WordPress
13:16 jwagner    That kind of edges into something I've been thinking about, but don't know how to do -- instead of having the OPAC layout controlled by a lot of sysprefs, take all that into a separate configuration page.
13:15 gmcharlt   it would require a bit of coding as well to have a generic 'choices' syspref option
13:15 gmcharlt   ditto for things like the patron account tabs
13:15 gmcharlt   jwagner: one suggestion for the sysprefs - rather than have an on/off syspref for each variation of such things, a single syspref (e.g., an OPACBibViews) that had a list of checkboxes would be more compact
13:14 jwagner    I'm thinking either change the markup to add IDs to all the tabs (don't think there are now), or sysprefs for them.
13:13 jwagner    (These sites get automatic patron loads and don't want the data changed)
13:13 jwagner    While I'm at it, I want to do some sysprefs to turn off some more of the tabs in OPAC patron account -- I have a couple of sites that don't want the account info itself visible/editable.  I figured out how to hide the submit button so patrons can't submit changes, but hiding the whole tab is preferable.
13:10 jwagner    That's what I was kind of thinking -- for consistency & ease of understanding.  But since these _can_ be hidden with jquery, I wanted to get people's feelings on it.
13:10 owen       If someone wants to set the bibliodefaultview to ISBD and eliminate other choices that should be possible (even if I think they're crazy)
13:09 owen       jwagner: I think that if we offer a switch to turn off one view, we should offer switches for the others as well
13:09 jwagner    (OPAC does not obey the existing staff sysprefs)
13:08 jwagner    There are staff sysprefs controlling these -- viewMARC and viewLabeledMARC.  However, I figured out how to hide them in OPAC with jquery.  Would OPAC sysprefs be preferable, or stick with jquery?
13:08 owen       OpacUserCSS
13:08 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3788 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jmf@liblime.com, RESOLVED FIXED, XSLT does not obey viewISBD syspref
13:07 jwagner    Got a philosophical question of sorts for people.  See Bug 3788, where I did a patch to make the OPAC obey the staff viewISBD syspref.  I've also had requests to turn off display of the MARC View and Expanded MARC View in the OPAC.
13:00 kmkale     cool. thanks again
12:59 gmcharlt   kmkale: yep, 655 sounds like the right choice for that
12:58 kmkale     aahh thanks chris_n
12:57 munin      chris_n: physical character, the subject of their intellectual content, or the order of information within them. Physical characteristic terms designate historically and functionally specific kinds of materials as distinguished by an examination of their physical character, subject of their intellectual content, or the order of information with them. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,v,x,y,z,2,3,5,6,8]
12:57 chris_n    @more kmkale
12:57 munin      chris_n: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
12:57 chris_n    @more
12:56 kmkale     how do I get the (1 more message) part?
12:55 munin      kmkale: Terms indicating the genre, form, and/or physical characteristics of the materials being described. A genre term designates the style or technique of the intellectual content of textual materials or, for graphic materials, aspects such as vantage point, intended purpose, or method of representation. A form term designates historically and functionally specific kinds of materials distinguished by their (1 more message)
12:55 kmkale     @marc 655
12:55 munin      kmkale: Terms indicating the genre, form, and/or physical characteristics of the materials being described. A genre term designates the style or technique of the intellectual content of textual materials or, for graphic materials, aspects such as vantage point, intended purpose, or method of representation. A form term designates historically and functionally specific kinds of materials distinguished by their (1 more message)
12:55 kmkale     @marc 655
12:54 kmkale     one more please I have a column titled Subject. data is "History" or "Grammer" or "Essay" or "Encyclopedia" etc etc. would you say 655?
12:51 kmkale     right thanks schuster gmcharlt
12:51 schuster   I would again go for the 653
12:51 schuster   520's are generally a "summary" of what the book is about - often found with fiction books and they don't have subject headings.
12:50 kmkale     :(
12:50 schuster   no it just makes it easier in the long run if they do need to change something or there are common terms in a subject type browse.
12:50 kmkale     huh 520 is grandly assigned to a column called remarks
12:47 kmkale     I can break it up on the ,'s will the broken up terms then be more useful in some other tag?
12:46 schuster   kmkale - if you can break that string into mulitples it might help in the long run.  ie  4 different 653 tags.
12:46 kmkale     schuster: they wont be using Koha for staff use yet. Its only for the union catalouge at granthalaya.org
12:45 schuster   gmcharlt 653++
12:45 schuster   Might recommend that library run a report on those after they migrate and explore "new" standard records for their data...  But again if they are not stickler librarians then it won't matter.
12:44 kmkale     :) they havent heard of authority yet and its only for opac in granthalaya.org
12:44 munin`     gmcharlt: An index term added entry that is not constructed by standard subject heading/thesaurus-building conventions. (Repeatable) [a,6,8]
12:44 gmcharlt   @marc 653
12:43 gmcharlt   hmm, or better yet, 653
12:43 schuster   It does look better for a 690 - just hope they never think of doing authority work...:)
12:43 kmkale     will 690 show up in subjects in opac?
12:43 gmcharlt   for a slightly better place to stick the 620, I'd recommend a 690, which is more commonly used for local, uncontrolled subject terms
12:42 kmkale     would you say it looks better for 650 then?
12:42 kmkale     no schuster its a very slipshod marc data I need to port to Koha
12:42 gmcharlt   kmkale: your 620 looks like a local field for topical keywords
12:41 schuster   Does your record have a 040? - that is supposed to help track where it "came from"
12:41 kmkale     Title from the above sample data in 620$a is " A Guide to Fortran Programming"
12:41 jdavidb    (kinda sloppy to be an LCSH heading, but it's structured more-or-less right.
12:41 schuster   not authorized... very odd - where did the data come from?
12:40 jdavidb    that sounds like a 650 Subject.
12:39 kmkale     sample data "Microcomputer,Central Processing Unit, Secondary Storage, Techniques of Programming "
12:39 jdavidb    schuster++
12:39 schuster   What's in it?  maybe it was coded wrong and should be a 520 - summary?
12:38 kmkale     no its marc21
12:38 kmkale     any idea where keywords should go?
12:38 schuster   So what do you have in that tag currently? - ah ... Unimarc.
12:38 jdavidb    In Unimarc, it is the "Printer of illustrations or designs from plates"
12:38 kmkale     i have it slapped on as keywords
12:38 schuster   kmkale - pulling out my handy MARC bibliographic ... There isn't such a thing.
12:37 kmkale     none here too http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd6xx.html
12:37 munin`     jdavidb: unknown tag 620
12:37 jdavidb    @marc 620
12:37 jdavidb    Bring some of that excitement with you to ALA, eh?
12:37 kmkale     what the heck is 620$a anyone?
12:37 jdavidb    Awesome.  :)
12:36 schuster   jdavidb - that line of code did wonders for my inventory and I have some very excited librarians.  imagine that one... Scarry.
12:36 jdavidb    hi, schuster!
12:36 schuster   Howdy all.
12:36 schuster   wizzyrea - here yet?
12:34 munin`     jdavidb: Quote #41: "owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;)" (added by jwagner at 11:13 AM, October 16, 2009)
12:34 jdavidb    @quote random
12:34 munin`     jwagner: Quote #32: "<wizzyrea> oh, things are not right in the world .... oh good, that makes me feel better. it's just the govt" (added by jdavidb at 09:56 AM, September 09, 2009)
12:34 jwagner    @quote random
12:17 * jwagner  harrumphs back
12:10 * owen     says in the voice of David Attenborough, 'The call of the wild jdavidb!'
12:09 * jdavidb  harrumphs.
11:48 munin`     kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0�C (4:40 PM IST on May 20, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
11:48 kmkale     @weather mumbai
11:48 munin`     kmkale: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
11:48 kmkale     @weather mumbai\
11:00 kmkale     hi Amit
11:00 Amit       heya kmkale
10:46 kmkale     Good evening all
10:34 chris_n    bbiab
10:25 chris      added strong tags
10:19 * magnus   heads to the kitchen in search of lunch
10:18 magnus     perhaps the two links to the "current" downloads could be made to stand out more? make them look like buttons or something?
10:17 magnus     chris: lookin' good
10:12 chris      i think ill leave it like that and get wizzyrea to fix it :)
10:11 chris      css makes my brain hurt
10:11 chris      hmm now ive made it disappear totally
10:06 chris      k
10:06 chris      the logo?
10:05 Amit       heya chris_n
10:03 chris_n    but the Koha log is full left in my browser
10:02 chris_n    download looks good chris
10:02 chris_n    g'morning
09:56 chris      hows that look now?
09:56 chris      http://download.koha-community.org/
09:31 kf1        wizzyrea around?
09:18 mason      oooh, nice  ohloh site
09:02 chris      cant sleep chris_n` ?
08:48 chris      not bad in only 4 days
08:48 chris      220 downloads of 3.0.6 from download.koha-community .. and 52 with all translations
08:47 chris      https://www.ohloh.net/p/koha/download
08:43 hdl        quite good.
08:42 chris      not bad thanks, and you?
08:42 hdl        howdy ?
08:42 chris      hi hdl
08:41 hdl        hi chris?
08:40 chris      evening
07:51 kf         good morning #koha
07:21 hdl        hi
07:07 magnus     or night
07:07 magnus     good time of the day, #koha
06:31 * brendan  sleeps
06:31 brendan    alright night #koha
05:08 kornelson  bye
05:08 kornelson  quit
05:08 kornelson  chris chilts
05:08 kornelson  :P
05:07 kornelson  thanks for you help
05:07 kornelson  thank for your help
05:07 kornelson  i come back tomorrow
05:07 kornelson  ok
05:03 kornelson  but i'm installed sql server and client
05:03 chilts     I have no idea, I'm sorry
05:03 kornelson  :(
05:03 kornelson  chilts
05:03 kornelson  ?
05:02 kornelson  i'm surrended i don't know to do :(
05:01 kornelson  :(
05:01 kornelson  the same error continues
04:57 kornelson  ?
04:54 kornelson  i', write again http://127.0.1.1:8080 and the same problem persist :(
04:53 kornelson  i'm finish
04:53 kornelson  ok chilst
04:53 kornelson  ok finish and now install mysql client
04:52 CGI686     que aburrido es esto
04:52 CGI686     nelsin
04:52 CGI686     hola
04:51 kornelson  85%
04:48 kornelson  35%
04:48 kornelson  http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2010-03-14
04:48 kornelson  ok once waiting i'm read the next irc log and i follow the sentences but don't fix the problem
04:47 kornelson  and i have only 1mb conection
04:47 kornelson  i need to download 34.5mb
04:46 kornelson  whait a minute
04:46 kornelson  ok
04:46 chilts     :)
04:46 chilts     need client too (just as a test)
04:46 chris      and that
04:46 chilts     sudo apt-get install mysql-client
04:46 kornelson  before mysql works
04:46 chris      sudo apt-get install mysql-server
04:45 kornelson  :( i don't know what happend
04:45 kornelson  mysql command not found
04:45 kornelson  mysql not work
04:45 kornelson  hey
04:45 chilts     ah cool
04:45 chris      mysql -ukohaadmin -p koha
04:45 chilts     chris: would he need a port in that somewhere?
04:45 chris      so probably
04:45 chris      mysql -uusername -p koha
04:45 kornelson  and i tray to configure in local the koha instalation
04:44 chilts     hmm, see if you can connect to mysql from the command line ... I forget what the command args are though
04:44 kornelson  i'm installed debian lenny in a virtual machine with virtualbox
04:44 chris      still using the socket?
04:44 chilts     and that's the virtual machine?
04:44 kornelson  in the same machine
04:44 kornelson  yes
04:44 kornelson  can¡'t conect to local mysql server
04:44 chilts     kornelson: do you have MySQL and Koha on the same machine (either physical or virtual)?
04:44 kornelson  koha error
04:43 kornelson  :S
04:43 kornelson  yes i write the sentence but the error still appear
04:43 chris      could be
04:43 chilts     that's what I reckon
04:43 chilts     maybe it's also the networking between his machine (where he is trying http://127.0.1.1:8080) and the virtual machine
04:42 kornelson  broken machine? what tha means?
04:42 chris      normally you dont connect to it on the socket anyway, but on a port
04:42 chilts     sounds like a broken machine to me
04:42 kornelson  thanks
04:42 kornelson  please wait 2 minutes
04:42 chris      worth a try
04:42 kornelson  ok i type the command but nothing happend, but before the command works, ok i reboot the machine, i work in a virtual machine
04:41 kornelson  ok
04:41 chris      try just mysql then
04:41 kornelson  in init.d the files are mysql and others but not mysql server
04:41 chris      ls /etc/init.d
04:40 kornelson  no appear
04:40 kornelson  :S
04:40 kornelson  jojo mysql-server no existe el fichero o el directorio
04:40 chris      sudo /etc/init.d/mysql-server restart
04:39 kornelson  chris i don't know what happend with mysql
04:39 chris      id do a
04:39 chris      ah so you are running the web installer, ok cool
04:39 cait       good morning all
04:39 kornelson  that errors ocurred when i type http://127.0.1.1:8080
04:39 chris      no dont do that
04:39 chris      have you run the web installer?
04:38 kornelson  ok wait i reboot my machine
04:38 chris      where?
04:38 kornelson  nop.
04:38 chris      are you getting these errors when running the web installer?
04:37 kornelson  what command shows mysql is still running
04:36 chris      is mysql-server running?
04:36 kornelson  :(
04:35 kornelson  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 30. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 30. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/
04:35 kornelson  i try but appear other error
04:35 kornelson  jejejej
04:35 kornelson  ok
04:34 genji      .... -sigh-
04:34 chris      but other people seemed to think it worked :)
04:34 chris      im not sure it will do anything
04:34 chilts     yeah, try that :)
04:34 chilts     sounds like there is something weird with your system
04:33 chris      then install it again
04:33 chris      try apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl
04:33 kornelson  :( i'm desesperated
04:32 kornelson  with this error
04:32 kornelson  fuck. sorry but i don't know what to do
04:30 genji      gah.... what does http::oai have to do with bad bytes?
04:30 brendan    hey amit
04:30 genji      hey amit.
04:27 kornelson  chilts
04:26 Amit       heya genji
04:26 genji      ah.. not for me, that mail... hmm...
04:26 kornelson  chris i remove libdbd-mysql-perl ?
04:26 chris      seems others have had this problem, ive never run into it before though
04:26 chris      http://markmail.org/thread/i6wzmspwpttoyyvg
04:24 genji      so,, won't install.
04:24 genji      okay, im trying to install koha 3.0.6 and HTTP::OAI is failing its badbytes test.
04:23 chris      cpan DBD::mysql
04:23 chris      is apt-get remove libdbd-mysql-perl
04:23 chris      yeah what i would try
04:23 chilts     there is something strange afoot at the Circle K
04:22 chris      its autocommit that is spazzing
04:22 chilts     but if it is installed, the why is it blowing up in C4::Auth?
04:22 chris      try that
04:22 chris      perl -MDBD::mysql -e '1'
04:21 chris      i think its lower case
04:18 kornelson  i have the most recent version
04:18 genji      anyone know about http oai badbytes?
04:18 kornelson  libdbd-mysql-perl ya está en su versión más reciente.
04:17 kornelson  look
04:16 kornelson  ok chilts
04:16 kornelson  jejej sorry
04:16 chilts     hmm, I fear you'll run into a lot of those problems if this one got you
04:16 chilts     sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl
04:15 kornelson  lenny
04:15 kornelson  debian
04:15 kornelson  it's my first time with this
04:15 chilts     what OS are you on?
04:15 chilts     good idea larsw
04:15 kornelson  sorry
04:15 kornelson  how to chilts
04:15 chilts     install DBD::MySQL
04:15 chilts     that's your first problem then
04:15 kornelson  Can't locate DBD/MySQL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .). BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
04:15 chilts     it'll either return nothing or explode :)
04:14 chilts     perl -MDBD::MySQL -e '1'
04:14 larsw      would this be the way to test that, chilts: perl -e 'use DBD::MySQL;'
04:13 chilts     ?
04:13 chilts     I think you _do_ have DBI, but what about DBD::MySQL
04:13 kornelson  but dbi i don't know
04:13 kornelson  mysql yes
04:13 kornelson  supouse
04:13 kornelson  y supuse
04:12 genji      im getting a http::oai test fail
04:12 chilts     have you got DBI and DBD::MySQL installed?
04:12 genji      hmm..
04:10 kornelson  :O
04:08 chilts     me neither I'm afraid
04:08 chilts     AutoCommit should have been around for ages, so I think that's a sympton of something else
04:08 kornelson  i don't know how to fix the problem.
04:08 chilts     maybe not installed correctly
04:08 chilts     personally though, it looks like a problem with DBD::MySQL (like an old version or something)
04:08 kornelson  ok
04:08 kornelson  :(
04:07 chilts     kornelson: as I said people will help if they can, and at the moment I can't ... sorry
04:06 Amit       heya brendan, chris
04:03 kornelson  do you do any koha instalation?
04:02 kornelson  chilts do you make any koha instalation ?
04:01 kornelson  sorry but my english is no good
04:01 kornelson  xD
04:01 kornelson  happends a miracle
04:01 kornelson  but may be
04:01 kornelson  i know
04:01 kornelson  yes
04:00 chilts     but people can't always help :)
04:00 chilts     people help where they can
04:00 kornelson  i supouse
04:00 kornelson  :P
04:00 kornelson  this is a channel for help us
03:59 kornelson  i'm look some expert in koha instalation :s
03:56 larsw      I don't really know what to look for, sorry
03:56 kornelson  hello?
03:54 kornelson  for koha instalation and in the instrucctions puts mysql for db manage
03:54 kornelson  i find a manual
03:54 kornelson  mysql
03:54 larsw      are you running mysql or postgres?
03:54 larsw      sounds like a problem with the database interface, though
03:54 kornelson  some koha expert
03:53 kornelson  humm
03:53 larsw      kornelson, sorry, I do not know what the problem is -- I'm new to this stuff myself
03:52 kornelson  jaja
03:52 kornelson  look
03:52 kornelson  http://www.pastebin.org/256417
03:52 kornelson  lock
03:52 kornelson  lars this is my error
03:51 larsw      no, sorry
03:51 kornelson  larsw do you speak spanish?
03:51 kornelson  sorry but my english is no good
03:51 kornelson  with the koha instalation, and i look for a help in internet but i cant fix the problem :(
03:50 kornelson  ok i have a trouble
03:50 larsw      maybe :)
03:50 kornelson  maybe o mabye xd
03:50 larsw      mabye
03:50 kornelson  ?
03:50 kornelson  anybody here
03:49 kornelson  hello people
01:57 chris_n    g'night
01:50 chris_n    I'm not 100% sure where the standard install sticks things, but yes it should be possible
01:48 nml        Both alpha and released files
01:48 nml        chris_n: is there an easy way to get rid of all of the koha files on my system?
01:47 * chris_n  imagines the staff client option as more insurance than a regularly used tool
01:46 chris_n    right; I suspect such a dump could be painful in terms of resources, but hopefully it would be a sort of tool of last resort
01:45 larsw      but it would be the library doing it to themselves, so that'd be ok
01:45 larsw      chris_n, yes, except for performance issues
01:45 chris_n    larsw: it sounds like your dump script could easily be called from inside the staff client to do an "on demand" dump of the db
01:44 nml        ok
01:44 chris_n    that is probably best as it looks like maybe your C4 libraries may have been messed up or something like that
01:43 nml        But I am re-installing the alpha from scratch as I speak
01:43 chris_n    good
01:43 nml        I have a backup of my DB
01:42 nml        There were errors, but only that the tables only existed
01:41 chris_n    and where there any errors when the web installer ran?
01:41 nml        Yes
01:41 chris_n    did you 'perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log' ?
01:40 nml        yes, actually :P
01:40 nml        Well, sorta
01:40 nml        yes
01:40 chris_n    did you install from a tarball?
01:39 nml        Would it be possible for, rather than using 'make upgrade' but 'make install' at the downloaded alpha2 code to install it fresh?
01:39 chris_n    adding a new template works fine on a clean install of alpha2
01:38 chris_n    something appears messed up then
01:27 nml        this is an upgrade from 3.00.04
01:25 chris_n    nml: is this a fresh install? or an upgrade?
00:55 nml        Undefined subroutine &main::GetAllLabelTemplates called at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-templates.pl line 57.
00:55 nml        When I attempt to add a new Label Template, I get the error
00:55 nml        But am experiencing a bug which I'm wondering if you have encountered before
00:55 nml        Hey guys, I recently downloaded the alpha2 release
00:24 chilts     lol
00:23 brendan    yup that's funny
00:17 chris      funny
00:17 chris      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3716897/Driver-fights-80-cellphone-ticket
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