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Morning #koha |
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hi Ropuch |
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chris_n |
g'morning #koha |
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jwagner |
Morning, chris_n |
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rhcl |
I thought I'd be the first person to log on this morning. |
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jwagner |
Nope. |
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rhcl |
Well, I'm an hour different from you. |
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jwagner |
But those earlybird Europeans have us all beat :-) |
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rhcl |
I need the waitress to bring me some coffee. |
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* jdavidb |
wonders how rhcl got a gig with waitresses. |
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jdavidb |
We don't have any of those in our office here. |
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rhcl |
Yea, our library has waitresses for the staff. |
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rhcl |
Free coffee, lots of other amenities. |
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thinks we need to have a discussion about amenities with our bosses.... |
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jdavidb |
jwagner++ |
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rhcl |
We're working on a fitness center with swimming pool, but that's going to be a hard one to swing. |
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jwagner |
Way back in my first library job, I kept suggesting that they turn the rare book room into a library staff spa, complete with hot tub. They didn't listen to me :-( |
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jdavidb |
rhcl, knowing your library as I do, I'm kinda wondering where they'd *put* it. |
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* collum |
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rhcl |
Well, yea, of course we'd need to buy a new building. |
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jdavidb |
might build onto the back of the one you've got, away from the street frontage, maybe? I don't know what's back there. |
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rhcl |
or kick out all the books downstairs |
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rhcl |
nothing in back. |
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wonders if rhcl's building was built by hobbits. "Nassssty little hobbitsessss..." |
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rhcl |
No, it was build to some massive standards originally to support a paint store, one of the primary tenants |
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rhcl |
the floor is doubly reinforced to support the weight of xxx gallons of paint |
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jdavidb |
The whole notched-into-a-hill thing is just cool as heck, though, even though it doesn't give the library proper main-street frontage. I was a little confused when I showed up there and saw the door where I came in.. ;-) |
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rhcl |
Yea, that's a common thought. We actually own the whole building, and would like someday to expand into all of our rented spaces, including the paint store. |
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rhcl |
That would give us all the upstairs too, which would be a better presentation. |
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yep. That's the first time I'd seen a Friends bookstore right there in the building, tho, and that was nifty, too. Our Friends of the PL here has two standalone bookstores, plus a shelf or two at each branch, I think. |
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jwagner |
OPAC search question for folks. When you display a title now with XSLT, and the Related Subjects has an entry like College teachers -- United States -- Periodicals, the hyperlinked subject search only goes against the first part (College teachers in this case). One of my sites wants it to go against all the subfields. Would that be generally useful? |
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owen |
There is a bug for that already I'm pretty sure |
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jwagner |
So there is, Bug 4276 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, "Related subjects" search is OPAC doesn't work with chained subject terms |
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jwagner |
OK, I'll work on that one separately from the other changes I'm doing for them, & see if I can come up with a fix. |
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collum |
jwagner: I looked at that a couple of weeks ago. The display is easy, but I believe the other subfields in the subject heading need to be indexed. |
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collum |
I've never played with indexing. |
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jwagner |
collum, I hadn't thought to check the subfield indexing; I will. Thanks. |
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biglego |
good morning, I installed the latest koha 3.01 as of 3 weeks ago. I'm wanting to update to the latest version is the command just 'git fetch' other than load data i've made not changes to commit back, which i'd be asking how to do that as well right now |
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biglego |
okay dummy me it was just a matter of understanding what I was reading 'git pull', do I now just rerun MakeFile.PL, make, make test, make install? |
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hdl_laptop |
you only have to do updatedatabase, and updates your translation |
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biglego |
hdl_laptop, apologies but I'm not following. I'm thinking you are assuming I did the dev installation, i performed a standard installation. |
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hdl_laptop |
oh. |
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biglego |
so I'm thinking stop apache, and zebra daemons, MakeFile.PL, make, make test, make install, then run updatedatabase? Restart the daemons and life should be good? |
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gmcharlt |
biglego: there is a make update target you can use - see the INSTALL doc for details |
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biglego |
thanks I think that answers my question |
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nengard |
jwagner around? |
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chris_n |
she's probably on chocolate break :) |
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sekjal |
mmmm, chocolate |
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jwagner |
No, have been eyeballs-deep in a lot of stuff. I WISH I had a chocolate break! |
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thinks about a trip to the vending machine. |
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jwagner |
nengard, did you need me for something? |
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nengard |
I did - but I think I got it - was documenting the new features added in the fix for bug 3482 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3482 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kohaprogrammersptfs.com, NEW, Print overdue and hold notices for patrons without email addresses |
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nengard |
I think I got it all - and will commit it now and you can check my work :) |
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nengard |
one thing for you or jdavidb - there is no perldoc for gather_print_notices.pl |
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hdl_laptop |
jwagner: anychance one of you checks the patches I sent about that ? |
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jwagner |
OK. We also need to check that commit -- we added one more piece to it, but I'm not sure if that was before the git pull request or after. |
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jwagner |
hdl_laptop, I'll test it as soon as I get a chance, and also see if we need to update with the last thing we added. FYI, that was a syspref to allow sites to specify how many items to list on the print notices. |
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nengard |
can you give me a one liner on what gather_print_notices.pl does? |
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jwagner |
That's intended for sites using z-mailers where they have to limit the page length. |
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hdl_laptop |
good |
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jwagner |
nengard, there are two parts of print notices. For regular overdue notices, the print piece is incorporated into the overdues script and print notices are generated there. However, hold notices don't go through a script -- Koha generates them immediately. |
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nengard |
jwagner so the gather_print_notices.pl script is only for hold notices? |
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jwagner |
the gather_print_notices script runs nightly and looks through the message queue. If there was no email address for a patron, & thus the regular hold notice couldn't go, it grabs them & generates a print notice based on the HOLD_PRINT notice file. |
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wizzyrea |
ooh jane that's a cool feature |
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wizzyrea |
does that supercede some of the koha extras stuff that right now is an addon to koha? |
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jwagner |
Both sets of notices are wrapped in <pre> tags so the layout in the notice setup is used (lines down, spacing across, etc.). The scripts also do a page break between notices -- the output is an html file that staff call up & print, so this means one notice per page. |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, I'm not familiar with the koha extras stuff -- what are you referring to? |
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nengard |
thanks!! |
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nengard |
okay I'll write this up and then send you the link |
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jwagner |
nengard, I've been working on internal documentation, including screen shots, for all our features. That's the documentation meant for library staff; it should probably be incorporated into your manual as well. |
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nengard |
great - you can send it to me as a patch or an email |
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jwagner |
It's a humongous Word document right now -- how about I send you pieces as stuff gets added :-) It's still under construction. |
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nengard |
jwagner - here's what I wrote: http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]839712fe6f2a72d96 |
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nengard |
some of the updates in there were just spacing issues - but you should be able to find the stuff I wrote |
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jwagner |
Looks like that syspref did make it in, but we'll still check the head version. For the writeup on the syspref, it needs to be modified (I didn't understand it properly originally). Use: |
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jwagner |
the print notice script will only print the number of items in that syspref and truncate the list of items at that point, with a note that the patron should check the full list of overdues in the OPAC. Calculate that figure by counting number of lines in your notice text. Then decide how many lines/items can print and still stay within the page length. This setting only affects print notices. |
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jwagner |
So the syspref is the number of _items_ that should be included, not the total page length. |
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jwagner |
nengard, what's your email address? I'll send you that part of the writeup with screen shots. |
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nengard |
nengardgmail.com |
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jwagner |
nengard, note that the screen shot shows a <pre> tag in the notice text, but it's not necessary to include it there. It's in the script (so that no one accidentally removes it when editing the notice text). |
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nengard |
k |
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rhcl |
Do you have to catalog from the managed file or can you catalog from the circ catalog? When you do a search from the circ search nothing shows up until you have a full record. (you have to go into edit to save the record). |
| 16:05 |
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jwagner |
rhcl managed file = reservoir? |
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wizzyrea |
ok peeps, I need a list of Frequently Asked questions re: koha |
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wizzyrea |
are they on the wiki? |
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wizzyrea |
(working on the website) |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: there is FAQ-like material there, I'm sure, but I don't think anybody's done a full FAQ in quite a while |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, from which perspective? Admins? Library staff? Patrons? |
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wizzyrea |
all of the above |
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wizzyrea |
want different sections |
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wizzyrea |
nengard, as docmanager do you want to help with this project? |
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wizzyrea |
I mean, i can think of questions like "I can't search, why?" |
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wizzyrea |
I want to customize X, can I? How? |
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wizzyrea |
where x = something specific like UI |
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nengard |
what project? sorry was away |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - there are old faqs here: http://koha.org/documentation/faq |
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nengard |
a lot i pulled together from messages on the mailing list |
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nengard |
i haven't gotten them all into the new manual yet |
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nengard |
but some are here: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=a9503 |
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nengard |
i am also up for working on a different style of FAQ if that will help people more!! |
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gmcharlt |
regarding jwagner's comment, having different types of FAQs makes sense to me |
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gmcharlt |
and an FAQ for patrons of Koha libraries would be a novelty |
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nengard |
we can probably find an FAQ plugin for WP and add it to the koha site |
| 16:44 |
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gmcharlt |
+1 |
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SJeffery |
One day someone will put a default framework of "Brief record" in and make my life a whole lot easier. |
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jwagner |
That would be useful. I can probably come up with some questions/answers whenever I have some of that mythical free time.... |
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jwagner |
SJeffery, there is one in the latest code (Fast Add) |
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SJeffery |
Free time. I have heard of that. Isn't that what we get when we retire (which is about six weeks before we keel over)? |
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jwagner |
I _HOPE_ not.... |
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SJeffery |
What code? Development or production? |
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gmcharlt |
SJeffery: current HEAD |
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SJeffery |
I have no idea what HEAD means in this context. |
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gmcharlt |
sorry, the current development version |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: that part is already done |
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wizzyrea |
I just need the content |
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nengard |
oh the faq plugin? |
| 16:52 |
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nengard |
k - well i gave you links to lots of content i already have compiled |
| 16:52 |
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nengard |
we just have to copy paste |
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SJeffery |
Any idea when that version will go into production (roughly)? I will hold up deployment if it is soonish. |
| 16:53 |
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nengard |
or find a way to scrape it |
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wizzyrea |
sweet, thanks for the links nengard |
| 16:53 |
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nengard |
np :) |
| 16:53 |
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nengard |
i can help move them over |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, let me do a little setup on it this afternoon and then we can start that project in earnest |
| 16:53 |
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nengard |
okey dokey |
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wizzyrea |
and I lurve the idea of a faq for patrons |
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gmcharlt |
SJeffery: beta for that version should be out in a cuople weeks, but it's possible to extract and aply the fast-add template sooner than that |
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gmcharlt |
as long as you have a version of Koha that's post-3.0.0 |
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wizzyrea |
it has it's flummoxing quirks, and it might be nice to include a link to the general patron faq on the default OPAC somewhere |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - as long as we make it clear that the faq is written assuming koha is set to the default |
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nengard |
i've seen lots of customizations that might make a patron faq confusing :) |
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wizzyrea |
yea, it ought to be a preference to show it or not. Maybe put it on the default Nav area instead of the "put your text here" notice that's on current new installations |
| 17:08 |
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wizzyrea |
Actually, yes, I like that |
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owen |
gmcharlt: Is it still your plan to remove Rotating collections from 3.2? |
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gmcharlt |
owen: yes, or at least disable it for now |
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rhcl |
test |
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jwagner |
rhcl, pass/fail or a grade? |
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jdavidb |
@quote random |
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munin |
jdavidb: Quote #69: "<schuster> Now if I could only figure out how to control those daemons... or at least the ones in my head..." (added by jwagner at 10:02 AM, March 17, 2010) |
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jdavidb |
@karma jdavidb |
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munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18. |
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jdavidb |
@karma jwagner |
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munin |
jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 22 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 22. |
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* jwagner |
snickers |
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grumps a little. |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
now children :) let's behave :) |
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jwagner |
Who, us???? |
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nengard |
hehe |
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jwagner |
@wunder 20817 |
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munin |
jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 21.2�C (2:36 PM EDT on March 18, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising). |
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sings "it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day in the neighborhood" |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 13.6�C (1:36 PM CDT on March 18, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: do you have a sec? |
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nengard |
yup |
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wizzyrea |
do you want the faq's all on one page or links to individual pages, I can't decide which is better |
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wizzyrea |
(all on one page is how it is now) |
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nengard |
i want them findable :) |
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* owen |
gets in line to speak to nengard |
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nengard |
If the plugin is part of wordpress then they'll be searchable |
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nengard |
so i think whatever looks the least scary is best |
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nengard |
maybe having different pages for categories makes sense |
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nengard |
anyone else have an opinion? |
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wizzyrea |
ok, well look at this |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/#_ |
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wizzyrea |
so installing/upgrading is how the faq plugin displays them |
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wizzyrea |
the other categories haven't been populated yet |
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gmcharlt |
it's a balancing act - one question per page would be annoying, but 100 questions on a page would be scary |
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nengard |
why not a category per page |
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gmcharlt |
that works |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I was thinking, see below where it says "acquisitions, administration |
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nengard |
also - i did a search and the faq don't seem to be in the search ... which might mean we want to make it as easy as possible to navigate |
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wizzyrea |
ok, so look at this then |
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wizzyrea |
one minute |
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wizzyrea |
ok, click that same link again |
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owen |
nengard: I think I have a fix for Bug 4173, but I have a question |
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nengard |
while she does that - what does owen need? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4173 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, Statuses not appearing in the OPAC |
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owen |
In particular, a fix to show Use Restrictions |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - yeah i think that makes sense |
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nengard |
and owen - clicking now |
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wizzyrea |
(remember, installing/upgrading is the only one with any populated questions |
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wizzyrea |
) |
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nengard |
owen - great - what's the question? |
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owen |
Since setting a value for Use Restrictions doesn't affect the availability of the item, I'm assuming it should display alongside the "available" status |
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owen |
Does that sound correct? |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: that works. q though, is the order of the headings strictly alphabetical? |
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nengard |
maybe in parens - yeah |
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nengard |
my reply was to owen |
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gmcharlt |
i.e., installing/upgrading might be best going before the functionality categories |
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nengard |
the librarian in me wants it all alpha :) |
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gmcharlt |
AAA Installation and Upgrade ;) |
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nengard |
LOL |
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bank |
question anout cron job to rebuild zebra index? |
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bank |
should that be run as root or my koha user? |
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oceb |
koha user |
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oceb |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
nengard: it should be searchable now |
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wizzyrea |
needed to find a plugin that parsed the shortcode content |
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bank |
ok |
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bank |
that I did but I am getting no search results |
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wizzyrea |
oh it doesn't have to be alphabetical |
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wizzyrea |
sorry I was off making things searchable :P |
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wizzyrea |
in fact, nengard |
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nengard |
off to test :) |
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wizzyrea |
that plugin I did ought to do the manual as well, but I'm not SURE about that. |
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wizzyrea |
maybe not, now that I think about it |
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nengard |
i like the tabs across the top :) |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - yes having the manual searchable is a must - but if we can make it a separate search that would be best |
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nengard |
cause it's hard to search it and the entire koha site at once |
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nengard |
chris recommended a google search |
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nengard |
in the search results - or on the page itself (and then the search results) it would be nice to know that you just found an FAQ |
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bank |
oceb: my tail -f /var/log/syslog shows the (koha) CMD (KOHA_CONF=/home/koha/etc/koha-dev/koha-conf.xml /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null) |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I was looking at a google search, and I think it would work |
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wizzyrea |
except that I couldn't find the "free" one |
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wizzyrea |
the one I saw cost some (admittedly trivial) amount of money |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: done, inst/upg is 1st in the list, the rest ar alpha |
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wizzyrea |
(and all of the categories aren't in yet, just fyi) |
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wizzyrea |
I wanted to work out the display before I went all crazy like >.> |
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gmcharlt |
question 1: do you want a dev install; answer: yes |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
roflcopter |
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wizzyrea |
question: enable/disable comments on these pages? |
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wizzyrea |
i like them clean, so off is my preference |
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wizzyrea |
but comments *are* helpful |
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wizzyrea |
opinions? |
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wizzyrea |
harro jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
harro wizzyrea! :D |
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gmcharlt |
imo - if possible, enable comments, but don't show them by default - just show that there are comments that one could click through |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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nengard |
i like gmcharlt's idea |
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nengard |
and we'll have to wait for chris to come on to ask what search he meant |
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nengard |
maybe it was google or another ... i forget now |
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wizzyrea |
hm, that's one I haven't done before, but I'm sure it can be done |
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gmcharlt |
maybe with a statement to the effect that every now and again comments will be incoprorated into the FAQ , then purged |
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nengard |
makes sense |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - probably look at the homepage script - cause it shows the comment count but not the comment text |
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wizzyrea |
Yepper |
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jwagner |
nengard, I'm catching up with things. With regard to Bug 4173, how about adding it to the OPAC note display area? If there's either an OPAC note or a Use Restriction entry in the item area, put it in that column? That would separate it a bit from all the other status information, which might make it more visible to patrons. |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4173 normal, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, Statuses not appearing in the OPAC |
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nengard |
jwagner that works too - owen what do you think? |
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nengard |
I'm not picky - it just needs to show |
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jwagner |
From what you were saying, the function of the entry is more like an OPAC note than a real status. |
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nengard |
true |
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chris |
morning |
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jwagner |
morning chris |
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nelsonf |
hi brendan et. al. |
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sekjal |
hi, nelsonf. |
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nelsonf |
hi sekjal! long time. I'm wearing my code4lib shirt proudly these days |
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sekjal |
most excellent. I'm hoping to get a drawer-full before my days are done |
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nelsonf |
I have several koha challenges today I'd like to put out there and see if any of ya'll might comment... |
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nelsonf |
one relates to e-mail notifications DUE and PREDUE under advanceMessaging; the second is how to find and install a patch; the third is that our db seems to be growing and I'm not sure why 24mb to 74mb in 2 months. |
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chris |
right |
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chris |
starting backwards |
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chris |
the db will grow, things like the statistics table, oldissues etc legitimately grow |
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chris |
but things like the sessions table |
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chris |
and the zebraqueue table |
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chris |
need to be cleaned out from time to time |
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chris |
both those tables can get big fast |
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nelsonf |
I guess this could be addressed in the daily crontab? |
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chris |
yup, i think there are some scripts to do it ... can anyone remember? |
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gmcharlt |
misc/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl |
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brendan |
hey nelsonf |
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brendan |
hi all too |
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chris |
thanks gmcharlt |
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nelsonf |
howdy brendan. gmcharlt: I'll see if I can find this and then run it manually thru putty the first time? I don't think it is in our crontab currently. |
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gmcharlt |
that will work |
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nelsonf |
back in a few... :-) |
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jwagner |
nelsonf, you don't want to run it in the middle of the day because it will kick out anyone who's presently logged in. Run it manually after/before hours, or cron it for overnight. |
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nelsonf |
fortunately the patrons are in South Africa, so now will work just fine! |
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jwagner |
One case where time zones are your friend :-) |
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nelsonf |
gmcharlt: I'm not finding the cleanup_database.pl at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs Does another cronjobs folder exist? I don't seem to have a root /misc/.. folder. |
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gmcharlt |
nelsonf: what version are you running? |
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nelsonf |
koha 3.00.01.005 |
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nelsonf |
another problem is that I went into crontab -e, but can't seem to close the file with the usual :q! that I learned from you guys at code4lib. How to close without saving changes (from within putty)? The file says --- INSERT --- at the bottom. |
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SJeffery |
Anyone know the status of Koha for Windows? Doesn't seem like it has been updated in several years. |
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gmcharlt |
nelsonf: hit escape, then try saving |
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gmcharlt |
cleanup_database.pl may not be in that version Koha |
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nelsonf |
you are SO right. Escape worked. |
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nelsonf |
re cleanup_database.pl, can I download and put it in the cronjob folder? |
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gmcharlt |
yes, or upgrade to at least 3.0.4 |
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nelsonf |
I would much prefer to upgrade. can I download and run a command or two, or would I need to know more than this? |
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nelsonf |
I think you guys said something about getting into a git stream, so that upgrades become easier... |
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nelsonf |
also, I'm aware that the need for the patch that I mentioned at the beginning of this conversation would not be necessary as the bug was fixed in a later version. |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt, still online? |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner: yep |
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jwagner |
See Bug 3164 -- was there ever a revised fix sent? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3164 major, P5, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, OPAC-placed holds broken in SingleBranchMode |
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gmcharlt |
not as far as I can tell |
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jwagner |
OK, thanks. |
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Jo |
hi all |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 15.6�C (4:46 PM CDT on March 18, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling). |
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CGI990 |
Hi guys |
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CGI990 |
I've made a change that's helped my system, but I'm not sure my system is a reliable basis for generalization |
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CGI990 |
Can somebody confirm that the behavior I was experiencing was not unique to my system? |
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pastebot |
"CGI990" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "missing circ error message" (34 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/23 |
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wizzyrea |
what do you guys think about this: http://koha-community.org/about/enhancing-koha/ |
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CGI990 |
Have all the wizards gone home? |
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wizzyrea |
the US ones, anyway |
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wizzyrea |
speaking of which |
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hdl_laptop |
CGI990: makes sense |
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CGI990 |
Is there somewhere I should put this to get it into wider circulation then? |
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gmcharlt |
CGI990: koha-devel, perhaps |
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CGI990 |
Is that another irc? |
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gmcharlt |
ah, no the koha-devel mailing list |
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gmcharlt |
but that particular issue is also being worked on so that it will be possible to let a loan through with an override if the user has overdues |
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gmcharlt |
or to also allow the current behavior of forbidding such loans outright |
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CGI990 |
It seems to me the idea of a hash for "errors" and a hash for "overrides" isn't a good one. |
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CGI990 |
A hash of circ preferences co-responding to errors seems a better way to go. |
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gmcharlt |
well, it could probably be more flexible, but there are legitamately cases when a loan is in fact impossible |
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CGI990 |
Perhaps, but why make assumptions. If a library wants to make a policy rule, give them the option. |
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CGI990 |
I suppose that makes configuration more complicated, though |
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gmcharlt |
I'm not disagreeing |
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Fallor |
hi all |
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Fallor |
hmm... nobody here now, obviously |
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Fallor |
so i'm off too |
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chris |
gmcharlt: about? |
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chris |
GetRenewCount is currently busted |
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chris |
its trying to use renewalsallowed on itemtypes |
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chris |
but we the rest of the renewal code now uses issuingrules |
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chris |
-we |
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chris |
ill try to fix it and send a patch |
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