IRC log for #koha, 2010-01-06

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00:25 brendan anybody got any ideas for me to trace down this issue.  When sending overdues, all the emails that come as a digest or as a text attachment - print the <items.content>
00:26 chris yeah you dont want that, you want
00:26 chris lemme find it
00:26 brendan all of the ones that are individual emails - the <items.content> does not print
00:26 chris yeah you dont want that for individual you want
00:27 chris biblio.title i think
00:27 chris try that
00:27 brendan the weird thing is that on all of my hosted servers -- this is not a problem
00:27 chris_n2 @wunder 28334
00:27 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -1.6�C (7:23 PM EST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Steady).
00:27 chris different versions?
00:27 brendan and on other servers that we all set up by this individual
00:28 brendan all same versions
00:28 chris weird
00:28 brendan yeah weirdness
00:28 chris_n2 weirdness--
00:28 brendan heh
00:29 brendan so reading through the cronjob -- their are options to list out which fields to print -- i.e biblio, title, etc.
00:29 brendan I was wondering if that was an option or if that was depecated
00:31 brendan -itemscontent <list of fields>
00:31 brendan (was also thinking that if I can get access to that machine - I may just swap out the code for that section with the code from head)
00:32 brendan then let her rip and see if I'm able to repeat
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02:29 rhcl1 here or out the window or something?
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02:39 brendan @wunder 93117
02:39 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.3�C (6:35 PM PST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising).
02:41 rhcl_home @wunder 64505
02:41 munin rhcl_home: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -15.2�C (8:38 PM CST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 9 am Wednesday to 6 PM CST Thursday...
02:41 rhcl_home -15.2 C. It's chilly outside.
02:41 chris sure is
02:42 chris crazy cold
02:43 rhcl_home Cold enough that just walking around outside hurts your lungs a little
02:44 chris @wunder wellington, nz
02:44 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (3:00 PM NZDT on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
02:54 chris_n2 @wunder 28334
02:54 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -1.2�C (9:51 PM EST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Rising).
02:55 * chris_n2 wishes for C4::ErrorHandler
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02:58 chris_n2 with browser and log methods
02:58 chris_n2 among others
03:00 chris there is a good error handling module
03:00 chris sorry error logging module
03:00 chris Log::Log4perl
03:02 chris id make the module use that
03:05 brendan ah getting close to linux.conf chris
03:05 chris yup
03:05 chris im all registered now
03:05 brendan good thing
03:05 chris presenting at the education mininconf on koha too
03:05 brendan oh excellent
03:05 brendan any other highlights?
03:07 chris
03:07 chris some good talks
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03:09 chris lol
03:09 chris http://freedomisnothingtofear.[…]ipes/a/office.jpg
03:09 brendan you going to see "code rush"
03:09 chris the sysadmins have built a fort
03:10 brendan heh
03:10 brendan yeah some interesting looking talks there
03:11 brendan Git wrangling
03:11 brendan "The Wolrd's Worst Inventions" feature MARC
03:11 brendan whoops featuring MARC
03:12 chris heh
03:16 * chris_n2 wonders what average screen resolution a koha user runs their monitor at
03:16 brendan yeah that kind of question drives me crazy sometimes
03:18 chris_n2 I work at some unearthly high resolution and my browser interface layouts do strange things at lower "normal" resolutions
03:18 chris_n2 it would be nice to know at what resolution they should be designed
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03:21 brendan yeah I'm guessing that should be discussed in some of the coding-guidelines docs
03:22 brendan I think nengard was just building up some steam to start tackling some of those issues
03:22 masonj the default screen rez these days is 1280X1024 , i think
03:22 chris_n2 that's sort of what I was thinking
03:23 brendan I'd hope so, but I still know some people on dial up
03:23 masonj up from 1024x768, circa 2005
03:23 brendan so I guess that's a good average
03:23 chris_n2 dial up... what's that? ;-)
03:23 brendan heh
03:23 brendan yeah my reaction too
03:23 masonj i guess 1024x768 is the safe option
03:24 chris_n2 although I do maintain dial in management capability on several systems I admin
03:24 chris_n2 just in case
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03:31 thd chris_n2: assuming nothing about minimal screen resolution would be best.
03:31 chris_n2 thd: that would make for some very sorry looking layouts I think
03:32 thd chris_n2: minimal resolution on a pocket sized device may be the computer of the future with some clever way of having full keyboard input
03:32 chris_n2 although I do know some web designers who assume very low resolution
03:33 chris_n2 thd: at that point I think we'd have to feed the browser results based on agent type
03:33 * chris_n2 wonders how Koha looks on a blackberry or iphone
03:33 thd chris_n2: 800 x 600 was the most common resolution of public access computer terminals which kados had found for libraries adopting Koha three years ago
03:34 chris_n2 ahh... I'm thinking primarily in terms of the staff-client side not the opac
03:34 thd kados expressed the view at that time that we should design for 800 x 600
03:34 thd the staff may not necessarily have anything different
03:35 thd I am very concerned about what happens when fonts are magnified for disability access
03:36 thd I have worked with people who have had vision problems and if things do not scroll properly with font magnification it is a real problem
03:37 * chris_n2 finds a nasty bug in the patron card code :-(
03:37 thd I myself spent a very long time recovering from an injury requiring me to be very far from the screen and had to use low resolution and font magnification to use a computer
03:38 richard it depends a bit on the browser. msie8 and ff3 magnify the whole page rather than just the font - so you end up having to scroll right to see it all
03:38 thd good point richard
03:39 thd I am pleased to have overcome my unpleasantly long disability
03:40 thd However, I have learnt what coping with a disability is like
03:40 * thd exercises his able body
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03:41 * chris_n2 also notes that koha has been developed primarily for FF rather than other browsers
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03:51 chris_n2 howdy Amit
03:57 Amit hi chris_n2
03:57 Amit hi brendan, chris
03:58 brendan hi amit
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04:55 chris_n2 nasty bug fixed...
04:55 chris_n2 g'night #koha
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05:21 brendan g'night #koha
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05:47 liz-nekls hey peps
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06:42 Ropuch Morning #koha
06:43 Amit_laptop heya Ropuch
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07:29 nicomo morning koha, morning all
07:33 magnusenger good morning nicomo et al
07:34 nicomo heya magnusenger how are you?
07:35 magnusenger i'm fine, looking forward to above freezing temperatures in a couple of days and trying to work out some xslt weirdness - and you?
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07:56 nicomo magnusenger: actually waiting for the snow to melt
07:57 magnusenger nicomo: you'r in good company then, i guess...
07:57 nicomo yes, but living where I leave that's annoying
07:57 nicomo it's supposed to snow like 2hrs per year
07:58 nicomo not  days
07:59 magnusenger well that's global warming for you... ;-)
08:00 hdl_laptop hi
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08:07 paul_p hello world
08:14 magnusenger hello biblibre
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08:57 chipsy hi can anyone describe how to use barcode & barcode reader with koha
09:05 Ropuch I'm not sure I understand your question
09:06 Ropuch Barcode is used to identify an item, you print the barcode on the label, then when checking in/out a book you just need to scan it
09:07 Ropuch Instead or typing a number/title or whatever
09:07 Ropuch Just like while shopping
09:08 Ropuch ;>
09:09 chipsy do i have to turn any setting on
09:10 Ropuch No afaik
09:10 Ropuch Barcode is simply device
09:11 Ropuch Plug barcode scanner, open test editor and scan some isbn or whatever
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12:32 chris_n g'morning #koha
12:32 chris_n @wunder 28334
12:32 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -5.7�C (7:30 AM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Rising).
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12:39 chris_n hi jwagner
12:39 Ropuch Hi chris_n, jwagner
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12:41 chris_n g'morning (or the appropriate TOD) Ropuch
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13:39 schuster Hey all.
13:40 owen Hi schuster
13:41 schuster Getting ready to bundle up!  supposed to be REALLY cold here for Texas tomorrow!
13:45 owen What's really cold for Texas?
13:46 owen @wunder 45701
13:46 munin owen: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -6.0�C (8:34 AM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
13:48 magnusenger @wunder bodo, norway
13:48 munin magnusenger: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -10.0�C (2:20 PM CET on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
13:49 owen hdl_laptop or paul_p: Should the OPAC search history feature be available to non-logged-in users?
13:50 nengard wizzyrea - will the website upgrade make all links to content be broken? I have linked to your site a lot in the new manual since it had so much info :)
14:17 hdl_laptop owen: I think so
14:21 owen hdl_laptop: So you disagree with my bug report suggesting that search history should be limited to logged in users? I'm worried that users will see that as an invasion of their privacy.
14:22 nengard owen - i'm with you - cause that means the history might be kept on public computers without people logging in first
14:22 hdl_laptop you can delete it with a click iirc.
14:22 owen I realize that it's not much different than clicking the back button, but it seems more overt to provide a link.
14:23 hdl_laptop owen: this was asked... So we did :D
14:23 nengard hehe
14:23 hdl_laptop Maybe should be disabled-able by syspref ?
14:23 owen hdl_laptop: The bug is either (1) Non-logged-in users have their searches logged or (2) Non-logged-in users have no way to view and clear their search history (because the search history link doesn't display at the top)
14:24 hdl_laptop matts_: ?
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14:27 matts_ In fact, the link should appear when the first search as a non-logged user is performed
14:27 matts_ so the bug is (2)
14:37 owen hdl_laptop and matts_ : setting aside the issue of whether anonymous search terms should stored, I think some thought needs to be given to how the history is presented to the logged-in user
14:38 owen If I log in and view my search history, some of those terms are mine, and some are terms searched for by the person who came before me.
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14:39 hdl_laptop owen: use case is this :
14:39 hdl_laptop you first search things... And then, you think.... Oh I forgot to login.... login and you gett all your search history in.
14:40 owen Won't it be confusing to the user if they log in to a public OPAC terminal and find a history of search terms that they don't remember searching for?
14:41 hdl_laptop BUT.... matts_ Maybe we should have a timeout (say 10 minutes) for search_history to be flushed ...
14:41 matts_ A timeout seems a good idea to me...
14:42 hdl_laptop owen: could be. but when they login with their computer, they will enjoy that feature.
14:42 owen It's a two-layered system, correct? Search terms input by non-logged-in users are stored in cookies, terms input by logged-in users are stored in the database?
14:42 hdl_laptop don't you think ?
14:42 hdl_laptop yep
14:42 owen I agree hdl_laptop, I'm not sure how to handle both cases.
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14:43 hdl_laptop hi brendan
14:43 owen Hi brendan
14:43 brendan goodmorning hdl_laptop owen et. al
14:43 owen Perhaps we should do a couple of things: 1) Add a system preference to block access to search history for non-logged-in uers
14:43 * rach is passing through
14:43 owen 2) Change the display of search terms to indicate which terms are stored long-term based on userid?
14:44 owen (not sure if (2) is possible)
14:48 rach owen I think 2 would just add visual complexity to the user
14:48 rach if they use a public OPAC they would expect there to be "remnants" of other users
14:48 rach if they use their own PC then they will never "know" that there are 2 things going on
14:49 owen But a logged-in user will see both a combination of their stored (semi-permanent) search history and whatever random terms they picked up from other users that day
14:49 rach wouldn't a logged in user only see their logged in stuff?
14:50 owen No, a logged in user sees their logged in stuff and whatever was searched for during that session before they logged in
14:51 rach so shoudl they only see their logged in stuff?
14:51 owen ...except for hdl_laptop's example use case: Someone does some seaches, then remembers to log in. Should their previous searches be cleared at that point? They'll have lost that history.
14:52 * owen isn't sure there is a perfect solution here
14:52 rach if you time out the unlogged stuff, then you would only see someone elses if you sat down at an opac they had just vacated?
14:53 * rach can check at her library what they do
14:53 owen Right, so if I'm stalking you I'll swoop in as soon as you finish. ;)
14:53 rach but they are pretty agressive at timeing you out
14:53 hdl_laptop owen : as soon as they login, iirc (matts_ confirm), search history is stored in database.
14:54 owen Ah, I see. So at that point I've permanently stored the search history of everyone who used the OPAC that day!
14:54 matts_ yes
14:54 rach on a per person basis though
14:54 hdl_laptop owen: mmm... timeout HAS to be implemented
14:55 matts_ But the button for clearing history is very visible when it appears (on the top right, near "Log In"... So I guess the user will notice it when he performs his first search...
14:57 owen Some will, some won't
14:57 matts_ Indeed
14:58 rach if you're worried about privacy then you can't rely on that
14:59 rach for a public opac
14:59 rach if you think it might just be anoying then maybe you could
15:01 * rach heads off back to bed
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15:22 hdl_laptop oopps I missed Kyle
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15:52 chris_n thd: I forwarded an email too you just now
15:53 owen hdl_laptop, matts_ : How does the "current session" versus "previous session" work with search history? I thought it was by date, but that's obviously not the case.
15:54 hdl_laptop matts_: ?
15:55 matts_ owen, hdl_laptop, it is session-based...
15:56 owen matts_: If I log out and log in again that is considered a new session?
15:56 hdl_laptop yes... For the system... yes.
15:56 matts_ yes
15:57 hdl_laptop maybe a display by date could be more interesting.
15:58 owen Google's search history feature would be a good thing to look at for ideas.
15:58 owen I think a table for "today" and a table for "previous days" might be better since the concept of a "session" is a little bit obscure to users.
15:58 matts_ hmm... Not so sure... I could make some search about a topic at one time of the day and other searches about another topic later on the day... They would cleary be separated, session-based...
16:01 owen "current session," "earlier today," and "previously?"
16:05 thd chris_n: Thanks
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16:07 chris_n thd: and another
16:11 thd chris_n: Thanks again
16:11 thd chris_n: I have very many subject based mailing addresses
16:12 chris_n ahh... is there another you'd prefer me to use?
16:12 thd chris_n: It would help my attention to such messages if you would send them to koha AT
16:13 chris_n right, np
16:13 thd chris_n: I actually use a separate address for each mailing list
16:14 thd chris_n: When I am busy it can take me a very long time to pay attention to my mailing list mailboxes
16:15 thd chris_n: When I am busy, I can also neglect my email altogether and I tend not use it as a substitute for the telephone like many people do now.
16:16 thd chris_n: I am almost always available by telephone which may be helpful if I am not attending to something.
16:16 * chris_n goes so far as to neglect the telephone on occasion :-)
16:17 schuster owen - question about a blog post -
16:18 owen Which post?
16:18 schuster dealing with the edit/delete script for edit items -
16:18 owen ?
16:19 schuster Yes that one - can I just take the script that is there and put it into the staff javascript area in the system preferences or do I have to do something special to get it to show up?
16:20 owen Have you tried it without success? It's been a while since I wrote that so I don't recall
16:22 owen You definitely don't want to just copy and paste the code in the blog post.
16:22 owen It's too generic
16:23 owen (Now that I look at it again after 6mo.)
16:23 owen $("td").click(function(event){
16:23 owen That targets *every* <td> anywhere. Not what you want to do.
16:25 owen That post was more proof-of-concept than do-it-yourself in nature.
16:25 schuster OK - I copied the code and dropped it in and nothing happens on my test environment so that was why I was asking.
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16:32 chipsy guys i'm having this error when trying to start pazpar :- 21:26:16-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] Error: ICU support requested with element: <relevance>  ...  </relevance> 21:26:16-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library.
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16:35 dreece I know this is a stupid, loaded question, but how long does it usually take for to run.. say with... 25,000 new entries?
16:36 owen dreece: Do you ask because it has run for a long time and you're wondering when it will stop? :)
16:36 dreece indeed. haha
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16:36 owen How long?
16:37 dreece I left it go overnight, had to reboot the server because the Swp had maxed out and was going so slowly.
16:37 dreece Now it's still running... been three hours since reboot.
16:37 owen That definitely seems too long, although I'm not a Zebra expert.
16:37 dreece Bah
16:37 dreece This stinks. haha
16:38 chipsy can anyone help out with this pazpar error
16:39 chipsy But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library.
16:40 hdl_laptop chipsy: install yaz-icu
16:41 chipsy uusind cpan?
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16:42 chipsy i mean i should install yaz-icu using cpan
16:43 hdl_laptop chipsy: no aptitude
16:43 hdl_laptop no, aptitude
16:43 chipsy thanks
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16:55 chipsy hdl_laptop i got this error Following packages haven't been found on the medium:  yaz-icu
16:58 hdl_laptop chipsy: Check if you have Indexdata repositories as sources. You should have them in order to install pazpar2 so I guess you have them installed.
17:00 chris_n wow, no developer/general meetings for koha from 31 Aug 07 to 6 May 09
17:00 chris_n is this true, or have some notes been inadvertently omitted from the wiki?
17:06 wizzyrea nengard re:website We are in the process of rebuilding it
17:06 nengard wizzyrea - will the links remain the same as they were before?
17:06 wizzyrea so no, you should be fine linking to it
17:06 wizzyrea yesm
17:06 nengard ah
17:06 nengard wonderful!
17:06 nengard and I'm sorry you have to rebuild :(
17:06 nengard what happened
17:07 hdl_laptop owen : line 486 in :
17:07 wizzyrea loooong story. :) will tell you later when I have more time
17:07 hdl_laptop expires=>"10m"
17:07 wizzyrea will make a good halloween systemadmin story
17:07 nengard oh my :(
17:07 wizzyrea with flashlights pointed at faces and oooooohs and aaaaaaahs
17:07 hdl_laptop set the cookie for search expires in 10 minutes
17:07 wizzyrea ah, it could be worse
17:07 wizzyrea it could be raining
17:07 wizzyrea :)
17:08 hdl_laptop chris_n unfortunately true
17:08 hdl_laptop mmm... No
17:08 hdl_laptop we had some in 08
17:08 chris_n everyone was too busy I guess
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17:09 dreece I now have 8 threads of running.
17:09 dreece something is not right.
17:09 chris_n hdl_laptop: no minutes from those 08 meetings?
17:09 chris_n or have I missed them?
17:10 hdl_laptop chris_n.... don't know
17:10 hdl_laptop dreece: you should stop all.
17:10 hdl_laptop or you may have a problem.
17:11 * nengard doesn't know if she likes this new 'off' trick - i say make it all public - even the bad stuff :)
17:11 hdl_laptop Also, using -x -nosanitize with biblios is increasing performances.
17:12 dreece hdl_laptop: doing that now.
17:12 dreece i just got rid of the crontab.
17:13 chipsy hdl_laptop i dont have indexdata as repo
17:14 hdl_laptop add that
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17:30 chipsy hdl_laptop i install yaz-3.0.52
17:31 hdl_laptop yaz-icu
17:32 chipsy i couldn't add the repository
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17:54 chipsy hdl_laptop i install yaz-icu but i still get thesame error
17:57 hdl_laptop disable relevancy
17:58 chipsy how
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18:20 chipsy guys i still get this error when i try to start pazpar:  pazpar2 -f pazpar2.cfg 23:12:44-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] Error: ICU support requested with element: <relevance>  ...  </relevance> 23:12:44-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library.
18:21 chris wow John_Brice_MPL ... long time no see
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19:00 brendan @wunder 93117
19:00 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.8�C (10:57 AM PST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising).
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19:15 chris_n @wunder 28334
19:15 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 6.2�C (2:13 PM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Steady).
19:29 nengard hi all - i need a git tip - how do I pull just one file from the git repo?  For some reason my install says I have edited a few files that I didn't :) or don't remember editing - and I don't want them to end up in my commit
19:29 nengard so I want to pull the files as they are not in the repo
19:30 nengard and then do my patch
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19:31 richard hi
19:31 nengard i think chris told me how to do this once - and I didn't write it down
19:36 chris_n nengard: I *think* you want 'git checkout /path/to/file' where the file is the one you want to roll back to the current HEAD...
19:37 nengard thanks chris_n I'll try that
19:38 nengard woo hoo - that worked :)
19:38 nengard patch submitted with help file updates
19:39 chris_n another minor disaster cleverly averted ;-)
19:41 Ropuch :)
19:46 owen-away is now known as owen
19:47 owen What does it mean when you get a "permanent system error" message back from a z39.50 search? Is that a z39.50 message coming from the search target?
19:48 owen Hm, I guess that must be the case:[…]fns/bib1diag.html
19:51 chris yep
19:52 owen I wonder if there could be a way for Koha to track a patron's card numbers in the case where they get a replacement card and change numbers?
19:52 chris HLT use the notes field for that
19:53 brendan I saw sekjal do something with that too
19:54 brendan I think if I remember correctly - his migration from "whatever" had that issue as well
19:54 brendan owen you may want to ask him what he ended up doing
20:00 sekjal owen: we did have multiple barcodes for patrons coming over from our previous ILS.  We kept the "most current", which was the highest number value, and stashed the others in a Patron Attribute 'History'
20:01 owen Interesting! Sounds like a great use of patron attributes
20:02 collum It would also be nice to have the date of the replacement.  We measure abuse by the number of cards that are replaced in a year.
20:02 owen "abuse?"
20:03 collum 5 card replacements in a month is abuse.
20:03 collum 5 card replacements in 10 years is not abuse.
20:03 owen Do you charge for replacement?
20:04 collum Not unless we determine that there is abuse.
20:04 owen I see. We charge no matter what.
20:04 chris we charge $2 if they swear at the card, if they punch it is $9
20:04 owen :)
20:04 collum :)
20:05 owen If they hand it over and it's taped together with clear tape that constitutes criminal neglect.
20:05 chris heh
20:06 nengard oh boy
20:07 collum I'm just glad I'm not in circulation.  It's too complicated.
20:07 nengard too much dealing with people
20:07 nengard I don't do that well - dealing with the public
20:09 brendan that's good to know nengard
20:09 nengard LOL
20:09 chris hehe
20:10 owen You can tell--she avoids speaking in public at all costs
20:10 nengard I do well in training and with colleagues - but when i was in retail I was no good
20:10 chris "just buy it already, sheesh"
20:10 nengard speaking at people is diff than speaking to people
20:10 brendan oh yeah retail is horrible
20:10 nengard well circ is a lot like retail
20:10 brendan I think circ is like bartending
20:10 owen Complete with the sob stories
20:11 * chris_n looks to be sure he is on the right side of the circ desk
20:11 collum I was washing dishes at a hospital when I was 15.  Found a dollar on the ground and turned it in to the boss.
20:11 collum The next week I was a cashier.  Seesh!
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20:19 nengard directtv guy just left - we now officially have HDTV :)
20:19 nengard if you followed my tweets you know it was a struggle!
20:20 owen Congratulations for taking on The Main and winning
20:20 owen Sorry, The Man.
20:20 owen You know the one.
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20:29 nengard owen that was all my hubby - he was mean mean mean - I've never seen him so tough :) hehe and in the end we won
20:29 owen Never come between a man and his HDTV
20:30 nengard LOL
20:30 nengard I guess not
20:30 nengard but I'm the TV junky in the house - he's more about the computer
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21:37 * chris_n has had all the fun he can for one day and so heads home
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22:03 liz-nekls wow seriously this is the quietest afternoon evar
22:06 schuster I was in meetings ;)
22:09 Ropuch ;>
22:12 chris heh
22:16 schuster by all have to go home and stoke the fire supposed to be a high of 30 tomorrow.
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22:16 chris thats below freezing eh?
22:27 chris hmm
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22:43 chris[…]B&T=0&O=D&P=46873
23:02 rhcl @wunder 64505
23:02 munin rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -7.7�C (5:00 PM CST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1027.7 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 PM CST Thursday...
23:05 brendan all right you on
23:05 brendan @wunder 93117
23:05 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.2�C (3:03 PM PST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady).
23:06 brendan oh not bad!
23:06 chris bet thats warmer than here today
23:06 brendan chris - can you beat me
23:06 chris @wunder wellington, nz
23:06 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 07, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
23:06 brendan close
23:06 chris cloudy here today, and its gonna rain soon
23:06 brendan it's amazing outside right now
23:07 brendan could get a better day
23:08 chris :)
23:19 chris_n2 @wunder Dunn, NC
23:19 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.8�C (6:17 PM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady).
23:19 * chris_n2 throws more wood on the fire
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