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brendan |
anybody got any ideas for me to trace down this issue. When sending overdues, all the emails that come as a digest or as a text attachment - print the <items.content> |
| 00:26 |
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chris |
yeah you dont want that, you want |
| 00:26 |
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chris |
lemme find it |
| 00:26 |
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brendan |
all of the ones that are individual emails - the <items.content> does not print |
| 00:26 |
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chris |
yeah you dont want that for individual you want |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
biblio.title i think |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
try that |
| 00:27 |
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brendan |
the weird thing is that on all of my hosted servers -- this is not a problem |
| 00:27 |
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chris_n2 |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -1.6�C (7:23 PM EST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
different versions? |
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brendan |
and on other servers that we all set up by this individual |
| 00:28 |
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brendan |
all same versions |
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chris |
weird |
| 00:28 |
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brendan |
yeah weirdness |
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chris_n2 |
weirdness-- |
| 00:28 |
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brendan |
heh |
| 00:29 |
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brendan |
so reading through the cronjob -- their are options to list out which fields to print -- i.e biblio, title, etc. |
| 00:29 |
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brendan |
I was wondering if that was an option or if that was depecated |
| 00:31 |
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brendan |
-itemscontent <list of fields> |
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brendan |
(was also thinking that if I can get access to that machine - I may just swap out the code for that section with the code from head) |
| 00:32 |
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brendan |
then let her rip and see if I'm able to repeat |
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* chris_n2 |
watches the people come and go |
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rhcl1 |
here or out the window or something? |
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| 02:39 |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.3�C (6:35 PM PST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising). |
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rhcl_home |
@wunder 64505 |
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munin |
rhcl_home: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -15.2�C (8:38 PM CST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.58 in 1035.4 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 9 am Wednesday to 6 PM CST Thursday... |
| 02:41 |
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rhcl_home |
-15.2 C. It's chilly outside. |
| 02:41 |
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chris |
sure is |
| 02:42 |
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chris |
crazy cold |
| 02:43 |
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rhcl_home |
Cold enough that just walking around outside hurts your lungs a little |
| 02:44 |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
| 02:44 |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (3:00 PM NZDT on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 02:54 |
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chris_n2 |
@wunder 28334 |
| 02:54 |
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munin |
chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -1.2�C (9:51 PM EST on January 05, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Rising). |
| 02:55 |
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* chris_n2 |
wishes for C4::ErrorHandler |
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chris_n2 |
with browser and log methods |
| 02:58 |
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chris_n2 |
among others |
| 03:00 |
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chris |
there is a good error handling module |
| 03:00 |
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chris |
sorry error logging module |
| 03:00 |
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chris |
Log::Log4perl |
| 03:02 |
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chris |
id make the module use that |
| 03:05 |
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brendan |
ah getting close to linux.conf chris |
| 03:05 |
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chris |
yup |
| 03:05 |
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chris |
im all registered now |
| 03:05 |
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brendan |
good thing |
| 03:05 |
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chris |
presenting at the education mininconf on koha too |
| 03:05 |
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brendan |
oh excellent |
| 03:05 |
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brendan |
any other highlights? |
| 03:07 |
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chris |
http://www.lca2010.org.nz/programme/schedule |
| 03:07 |
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chris |
some good talks |
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chris |
lol |
| 03:09 |
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chris |
http://freedomisnothingtofear.[…]ipes/a/office.jpg |
| 03:09 |
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brendan |
you going to see "code rush" |
| 03:09 |
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chris |
the sysadmins have built a fort |
| 03:10 |
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brendan |
heh |
| 03:10 |
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brendan |
yeah some interesting looking talks there |
| 03:11 |
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brendan |
Git wrangling |
| 03:11 |
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brendan |
"The Wolrd's Worst Inventions" feature MARC |
| 03:11 |
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brendan |
whoops featuring MARC |
| 03:12 |
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chris |
heh |
| 03:16 |
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* chris_n2 |
wonders what average screen resolution a koha user runs their monitor at |
| 03:16 |
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brendan |
yeah that kind of question drives me crazy sometimes |
| 03:18 |
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chris_n2 |
I work at some unearthly high resolution and my browser interface layouts do strange things at lower "normal" resolutions |
| 03:18 |
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chris_n2 |
it would be nice to know at what resolution they should be designed |
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brendan |
yeah I'm guessing that should be discussed in some of the coding-guidelines docs |
| 03:22 |
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brendan |
I think nengard was just building up some steam to start tackling some of those issues |
| 03:22 |
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masonj |
the default screen rez these days is 1280X1024 , i think |
| 03:22 |
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chris_n2 |
that's sort of what I was thinking |
| 03:23 |
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brendan |
I'd hope so, but I still know some people on dial up |
| 03:23 |
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masonj |
up from 1024x768, circa 2005 |
| 03:23 |
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brendan |
so I guess that's a good average |
| 03:23 |
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chris_n2 |
dial up... what's that? ;-) |
| 03:23 |
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brendan |
heh |
| 03:23 |
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brendan |
yeah my reaction too |
| 03:23 |
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masonj |
i guess 1024x768 is the safe option |
| 03:24 |
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chris_n2 |
although I do maintain dial in management capability on several systems I admin |
| 03:24 |
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chris_n2 |
just in case |
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| 03:31 |
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thd |
chris_n2: assuming nothing about minimal screen resolution would be best. |
| 03:31 |
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chris_n2 |
thd: that would make for some very sorry looking layouts I think |
| 03:32 |
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thd |
chris_n2: minimal resolution on a pocket sized device may be the computer of the future with some clever way of having full keyboard input |
| 03:32 |
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chris_n2 |
although I do know some web designers who assume very low resolution |
| 03:33 |
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chris_n2 |
thd: at that point I think we'd have to feed the browser results based on agent type |
| 03:33 |
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* chris_n2 |
wonders how Koha looks on a blackberry or iphone |
| 03:33 |
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thd |
chris_n2: 800 x 600 was the most common resolution of public access computer terminals which kados had found for libraries adopting Koha three years ago |
| 03:34 |
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chris_n2 |
ahh... I'm thinking primarily in terms of the staff-client side not the opac |
| 03:34 |
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thd |
kados expressed the view at that time that we should design for 800 x 600 |
| 03:34 |
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thd |
the staff may not necessarily have anything different |
| 03:35 |
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thd |
I am very concerned about what happens when fonts are magnified for disability access |
| 03:36 |
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thd |
I have worked with people who have had vision problems and if things do not scroll properly with font magnification it is a real problem |
| 03:37 |
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* chris_n2 |
finds a nasty bug in the patron card code :-( |
| 03:37 |
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thd |
I myself spent a very long time recovering from an injury requiring me to be very far from the screen and had to use low resolution and font magnification to use a computer |
| 03:38 |
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richard |
it depends a bit on the browser. msie8 and ff3 magnify the whole page rather than just the font - so you end up having to scroll right to see it all |
| 03:38 |
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thd |
good point richard |
| 03:39 |
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thd |
I am pleased to have overcome my unpleasantly long disability |
| 03:40 |
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thd |
However, I have learnt what coping with a disability is like |
| 03:40 |
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* thd |
exercises his able body |
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* chris_n2 |
also notes that koha has been developed primarily for FF rather than other browsers |
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chris_n2 |
howdy Amit |
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Amit |
hi chris_n2 |
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Amit |
hi brendan, chris |
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brendan |
hi amit |
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chris_n2 |
nasty bug fixed... |
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chris_n2 |
g'night #koha |
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brendan |
g'night #koha |
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liz-nekls |
hey peps |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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Amit_laptop |
heya Ropuch |
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nicomo |
morning koha, morning all |
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magnusenger |
good morning nicomo et al |
| 07:34 |
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nicomo |
heya magnusenger how are you? |
| 07:35 |
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magnusenger |
i'm fine, looking forward to above freezing temperatures in a couple of days and trying to work out some xslt weirdness - and you? |
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nicomo |
magnusenger: actually waiting for the snow to melt |
| 07:57 |
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magnusenger |
nicomo: you'r in good company then, i guess... |
| 07:57 |
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nicomo |
yes, but living where I leave that's annoying |
| 07:57 |
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nicomo |
it's supposed to snow like 2hrs per year |
| 07:58 |
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nicomo |
not days |
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magnusenger |
well that's global warming for you... ;-) |
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hdl_laptop |
hi |
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paul_p |
hello world |
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magnusenger |
hello biblibre |
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chipsy |
hi can anyone describe how to use barcode & barcode reader with koha |
| 09:05 |
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Ropuch |
I'm not sure I understand your question |
| 09:06 |
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Ropuch |
Barcode is used to identify an item, you print the barcode on the label, then when checking in/out a book you just need to scan it |
| 09:07 |
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Ropuch |
Instead or typing a number/title or whatever |
| 09:07 |
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Ropuch |
Just like while shopping |
| 09:08 |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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chipsy |
do i have to turn any setting on |
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Ropuch |
No afaik |
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Ropuch |
Barcode is simply device |
| 09:11 |
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Ropuch |
Plug barcode scanner, open test editor and scan some isbn or whatever |
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chris_n |
g'morning #koha |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -5.7�C (7:30 AM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1002.9 hPa (Rising). |
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chris_n |
hi jwagner |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris_n, jwagner |
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chris_n |
g'morning (or the appropriate TOD) Ropuch |
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schuster |
Hey all. |
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owen |
Hi schuster |
| 13:41 |
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schuster |
Getting ready to bundle up! supposed to be REALLY cold here for Texas tomorrow! |
| 13:45 |
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owen |
What's really cold for Texas? |
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owen |
@wunder 45701 |
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munin |
owen: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -6.0�C (8:34 AM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -8.0�C. Windchill: -13.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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magnusenger |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
magnusenger: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -10.0�C (2:20 PM CET on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:49 |
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owen |
hdl_laptop or paul_p: Should the OPAC search history feature be available to non-logged-in users? |
| 13:50 |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - will the website upgrade make all links to content be broken? I have linked to your site a lot in the new manual since it had so much info :) |
| 14:17 |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: I think so |
| 14:21 |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: So you disagree with my bug report suggesting that search history should be limited to logged in users? I'm worried that users will see that as an invasion of their privacy. |
| 14:22 |
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nengard |
owen - i'm with you - cause that means the history might be kept on public computers without people logging in first |
| 14:22 |
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hdl_laptop |
you can delete it with a click iirc. |
| 14:22 |
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owen |
I realize that it's not much different than clicking the back button, but it seems more overt to provide a link. |
| 14:23 |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: this was asked... So we did :D |
| 14:23 |
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nengard |
hehe |
| 14:23 |
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hdl_laptop |
Maybe should be disabled-able by syspref ? |
| 14:23 |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: The bug is either (1) Non-logged-in users have their searches logged or (2) Non-logged-in users have no way to view and clear their search history (because the search history link doesn't display at the top) |
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hdl_laptop |
matts_: ? |
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matts_ |
In fact, the link should appear when the first search as a non-logged user is performed |
| 14:27 |
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matts_ |
so the bug is (2) |
| 14:37 |
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owen |
hdl_laptop and matts_ : setting aside the issue of whether anonymous search terms should stored, I think some thought needs to be given to how the history is presented to the logged-in user |
| 14:38 |
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owen |
If I log in and view my search history, some of those terms are mine, and some are terms searched for by the person who came before me. |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: use case is this : |
| 14:39 |
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hdl_laptop |
you first search things... And then, you think.... Oh I forgot to login.... login and you gett all your search history in. |
| 14:40 |
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owen |
Won't it be confusing to the user if they log in to a public OPAC terminal and find a history of search terms that they don't remember searching for? |
| 14:41 |
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hdl_laptop |
BUT.... matts_ Maybe we should have a timeout (say 10 minutes) for search_history to be flushed ... |
| 14:41 |
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matts_ |
A timeout seems a good idea to me... |
| 14:42 |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: could be. but when they login with their computer, they will enjoy that feature. |
| 14:42 |
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owen |
It's a two-layered system, correct? Search terms input by non-logged-in users are stored in cookies, terms input by logged-in users are stored in the database? |
| 14:42 |
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hdl_laptop |
don't you think ? |
| 14:42 |
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hdl_laptop |
yep |
| 14:42 |
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owen |
I agree hdl_laptop, I'm not sure how to handle both cases. |
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hdl_laptop |
hi brendan |
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owen |
Hi brendan |
| 14:43 |
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brendan |
goodmorning hdl_laptop owen et. al |
| 14:43 |
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owen |
Perhaps we should do a couple of things: 1) Add a system preference to block access to search history for non-logged-in uers |
| 14:43 |
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* rach |
is passing through |
| 14:43 |
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owen |
2) Change the display of search terms to indicate which terms are stored long-term based on userid? |
| 14:44 |
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owen |
(not sure if (2) is possible) |
| 14:48 |
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rach |
owen I think 2 would just add visual complexity to the user |
| 14:48 |
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rach |
if they use a public OPAC they would expect there to be "remnants" of other users |
| 14:48 |
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rach |
if they use their own PC then they will never "know" that there are 2 things going on |
| 14:49 |
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owen |
But a logged-in user will see both a combination of their stored (semi-permanent) search history and whatever random terms they picked up from other users that day |
| 14:49 |
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rach |
wouldn't a logged in user only see their logged in stuff? |
| 14:50 |
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owen |
No, a logged in user sees their logged in stuff and whatever was searched for during that session before they logged in |
| 14:51 |
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rach |
so shoudl they only see their logged in stuff? |
| 14:51 |
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owen |
...except for hdl_laptop's example use case: Someone does some seaches, then remembers to log in. Should their previous searches be cleared at that point? They'll have lost that history. |
| 14:52 |
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* owen |
isn't sure there is a perfect solution here |
| 14:52 |
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rach |
if you time out the unlogged stuff, then you would only see someone elses if you sat down at an opac they had just vacated? |
| 14:53 |
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* rach |
can check at her library what they do |
| 14:53 |
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owen |
Right, so if I'm stalking you I'll swoop in as soon as you finish. ;) |
| 14:53 |
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rach |
but they are pretty agressive at timeing you out |
| 14:53 |
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hdl_laptop |
owen : as soon as they login, iirc (matts_ confirm), search history is stored in database. |
| 14:54 |
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owen |
Ah, I see. So at that point I've permanently stored the search history of everyone who used the OPAC that day! |
| 14:54 |
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matts_ |
yes |
| 14:54 |
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rach |
on a per person basis though |
| 14:54 |
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hdl_laptop |
owen: mmm... timeout HAS to be implemented |
| 14:55 |
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matts_ |
But the button for clearing history is very visible when it appears (on the top right, near "Log In"... So I guess the user will notice it when he performs his first search... |
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owen |
Some will, some won't |
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matts_ |
Indeed |
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rach |
if you're worried about privacy then you can't rely on that |
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rach |
for a public opac |
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rach |
if you think it might just be anoying then maybe you could |
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heads off back to bed |
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hdl_laptop |
oopps I missed Kyle |
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chris_n |
thd: I forwarded an email too you just now |
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owen |
hdl_laptop, matts_ : How does the "current session" versus "previous session" work with search history? I thought it was by date, but that's obviously not the case. |
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hdl_laptop |
matts_: ? |
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matts_ |
owen, hdl_laptop, it is session-based... |
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owen |
matts_: If I log out and log in again that is considered a new session? |
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hdl_laptop |
yes... For the system... yes. |
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matts_ |
yes |
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hdl_laptop |
maybe a display by date could be more interesting. |
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owen |
Google's search history feature would be a good thing to look at for ideas. |
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owen |
I think a table for "today" and a table for "previous days" might be better since the concept of a "session" is a little bit obscure to users. |
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matts_ |
hmm... Not so sure... I could make some search about a topic at one time of the day and other searches about another topic later on the day... They would cleary be separated, session-based... |
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owen |
"current session," "earlier today," and "previously?" |
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thd |
chris_n: Thanks |
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chris_n |
thd: and another |
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thd |
chris_n: Thanks again |
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thd |
chris_n: I have very many subject based mailing addresses |
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chris_n |
ahh... is there another you'd prefer me to use? |
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thd |
chris_n: It would help my attention to such messages if you would send them to koha AT agogme.com |
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chris_n |
right, np |
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thd |
chris_n: I actually use a separate address for each mailing list |
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thd |
chris_n: When I am busy it can take me a very long time to pay attention to my mailing list mailboxes |
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thd |
chris_n: When I am busy, I can also neglect my email altogether and I tend not use it as a substitute for the telephone like many people do now. |
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thd |
chris_n: I am almost always available by telephone which may be helpful if I am not attending to something. |
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goes so far as to neglect the telephone on occasion :-) |
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schuster |
owen - question about a blog post - http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?cat=6 |
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owen |
Which post? |
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schuster |
dealing with the edit/delete script for edit items - |
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owen |
http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=298 ? |
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schuster |
Yes that one - can I just take the script that is there and put it into the staff javascript area in the system preferences or do I have to do something special to get it to show up? |
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owen |
Have you tried it without success? It's been a while since I wrote that so I don't recall |
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owen |
You definitely don't want to just copy and paste the code in the blog post. |
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owen |
It's too generic |
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owen |
(Now that I look at it again after 6mo.) |
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owen |
$("td").click(function(event){ |
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owen |
That targets *every* <td> anywhere. Not what you want to do. |
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owen |
That post was more proof-of-concept than do-it-yourself in nature. |
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schuster |
OK - I copied the code and dropped it in and nothing happens on my test environment so that was why I was asking. |
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chipsy |
guys i'm having this error when trying to start pazpar :- 21:26:16-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] Error: ICU support requested with element: <relevance> ... </relevance> 21:26:16-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library. |
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dreece |
I know this is a stupid, loaded question, but how long does it usually take for rebuild_zebra.pl to run.. say with... 25,000 new entries? |
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owen |
dreece: Do you ask because it has run for a long time and you're wondering when it will stop? :) |
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dreece |
indeed. haha |
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owen |
How long? |
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dreece |
I left it go overnight, had to reboot the server because the Swp had maxed out and was going so slowly. |
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dreece |
Now it's still running... been three hours since reboot. |
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owen |
That definitely seems too long, although I'm not a Zebra expert. |
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dreece |
Bah |
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dreece |
This stinks. haha |
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chipsy |
can anyone help out with this pazpar error |
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chipsy |
But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library. |
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hdl_laptop |
chipsy: install yaz-icu |
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chipsy |
uusind cpan? |
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chipsy |
i mean i should install yaz-icu using cpan |
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hdl_laptop |
chipsy: no aptitude |
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hdl_laptop |
no, aptitude |
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chipsy |
thanks |
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chipsy |
hdl_laptop i got this error Following packages haven't been found on the medium: yaz-icu |
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hdl_laptop |
chipsy: Check if you have Indexdata repositories as sources. You should have them in order to install pazpar2 so I guess you have them installed. |
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chris_n |
wow, no developer/general meetings for koha from 31 Aug 07 to 6 May 09 |
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chris_n |
is this true, or have some notes been inadvertently omitted from the wiki? |
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wizzyrea |
nengard re:website We are in the process of rebuilding it |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - will the links remain the same as they were before? |
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wizzyrea |
so no, you should be fine linking to it |
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wizzyrea |
yesm |
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nengard |
ah |
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nengard |
wonderful! |
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nengard |
and I'm sorry you have to rebuild :( |
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nengard |
what happened |
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hdl_laptop |
owen : line 486 in opac-search.pl : |
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wizzyrea |
loooong story. :) will tell you later when I have more time |
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hdl_laptop |
expires=>"10m" |
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wizzyrea |
will make a good halloween systemadmin story |
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nengard |
oh my :( |
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wizzyrea |
with flashlights pointed at faces and oooooohs and aaaaaaahs |
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hdl_laptop |
set the cookie for search expires in 10 minutes |
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wizzyrea |
ah, it could be worse |
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wizzyrea |
it could be raining |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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hdl_laptop |
chris_n unfortunately true |
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hdl_laptop |
mmm... No |
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hdl_laptop |
we had some in 08 |
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chris_n |
everyone was too busy I guess |
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dreece |
I now have 8 threads of rebuild_zebra.pl running. |
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dreece |
something is not right. |
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chris_n |
hdl_laptop: no minutes from those 08 meetings? |
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chris_n |
or have I missed them? |
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hdl_laptop |
chris_n.... don't know |
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hdl_laptop |
dreece: you should stop all. |
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hdl_laptop |
or you may have a problem. |
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* nengard |
doesn't know if she likes this new 'off' trick - i say make it all public - even the bad stuff :) |
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hdl_laptop |
Also, using -x -nosanitize with biblios is increasing performances. |
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dreece |
hdl_laptop: doing that now. |
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dreece |
i just got rid of the crontab. |
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chipsy |
hdl_laptop i dont have indexdata as repo |
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hdl_laptop |
add that |
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chipsy |
hdl_laptop i install yaz-3.0.52 |
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hdl_laptop |
yaz-icu |
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chipsy |
i couldn't add the repository |
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chipsy |
hdl_laptop i install yaz-icu but i still get thesame error |
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hdl_laptop |
disable relevancy |
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chipsy |
how |
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chipsy |
guys i still get this error when i try to start pazpar: pazpar2 -f pazpar2.cfg 23:12:44-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] Error: ICU support requested with element: <relevance> ... </relevance> 23:12:44-06/01 pazpar2 [fatal] But no ICU support is compiled into the YAZ library. |
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chris |
wow John_Brice_MPL ... long time no see |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.8�C (10:57 AM PST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder 28334 |
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chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 6.2�C (2:13 PM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -19.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa (Steady). |
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nengard |
hi all - i need a git tip - how do I pull just one file from the git repo? For some reason my install says I have edited a few files that I didn't :) or don't remember editing - and I don't want them to end up in my commit |
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nengard |
so I want to pull the files as they are not in the repo |
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nengard |
and then do my patch |
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richard |
hi |
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nengard |
i think chris told me how to do this once - and I didn't write it down |
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chris_n |
nengard: I *think* you want 'git checkout /path/to/file' where the file is the one you want to roll back to the current HEAD... |
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nengard |
thanks chris_n I'll try that |
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nengard |
woo hoo - that worked :) |
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nengard |
patch submitted with help file updates |
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chris_n |
another minor disaster cleverly averted ;-) |
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Ropuch |
:) |
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owen |
What does it mean when you get a "permanent system error" message back from a z39.50 search? Is that a z39.50 message coming from the search target? |
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owen |
Hm, I guess that must be the case: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agenc[…]fns/bib1diag.html |
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chris |
yep |
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owen |
I wonder if there could be a way for Koha to track a patron's card numbers in the case where they get a replacement card and change numbers? |
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chris |
HLT use the notes field for that |
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brendan |
I saw sekjal do something with that too |
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brendan |
I think if I remember correctly - his migration from "whatever" had that issue as well |
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brendan |
owen you may want to ask him what he ended up doing |
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sekjal |
owen: we did have multiple barcodes for patrons coming over from our previous ILS. We kept the "most current", which was the highest number value, and stashed the others in a Patron Attribute 'History' |
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owen |
Interesting! Sounds like a great use of patron attributes |
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collum |
It would also be nice to have the date of the replacement. We measure abuse by the number of cards that are replaced in a year. |
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owen |
"abuse?" |
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collum |
5 card replacements in a month is abuse. |
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collum |
5 card replacements in 10 years is not abuse. |
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owen |
Do you charge for replacement? |
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collum |
Not unless we determine that there is abuse. |
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owen |
I see. We charge no matter what. |
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chris |
we charge $2 if they swear at the card, if they punch it is $9 |
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owen |
:) |
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collum |
:) |
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owen |
If they hand it over and it's taped together with clear tape that constitutes criminal neglect. |
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chris |
heh |
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nengard |
oh boy |
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collum |
I'm just glad I'm not in circulation. It's too complicated. |
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nengard |
too much dealing with people |
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nengard |
I don't do that well - dealing with the public |
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brendan |
that's good to know nengard |
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nengard |
LOL |
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chris |
hehe |
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owen |
You can tell--she avoids speaking in public at all costs |
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nengard |
I do well in training and with colleagues - but when i was in retail I was no good |
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chris |
"just buy it already, sheesh" |
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nengard |
speaking at people is diff than speaking to people |
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brendan |
oh yeah retail is horrible |
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nengard |
well circ is a lot like retail |
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brendan |
I think circ is like bartending |
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owen |
Complete with the sob stories |
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* chris_n |
looks to be sure he is on the right side of the circ desk |
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collum |
I was washing dishes at a hospital when I was 15. Found a dollar on the ground and turned it in to the boss. |
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collum |
The next week I was a cashier. Seesh! |
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nengard |
directtv guy just left - we now officially have HDTV :) |
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nengard |
if you followed my tweets you know it was a struggle! |
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owen |
Congratulations for taking on The Main and winning |
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owen |
Sorry, The Man. |
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owen |
You know the one. |
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nengard |
owen that was all my hubby - he was mean mean mean - I've never seen him so tough :) hehe and in the end we won |
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owen |
Never come between a man and his HDTV |
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nengard |
LOL |
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nengard |
I guess not |
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nengard |
but I'm the TV junky in the house - he's more about the computer |
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liz-nekls |
wow seriously this is the quietest afternoon evar |
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schuster |
I was in meetings ;) |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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chris |
heh |
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schuster |
by all have to go home and stoke the fire supposed to be a high of 30 tomorrow. |
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chris |
thats below freezing eh? |
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chris |
hmm |
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chris |
https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bi[…]B&T=0&O=D&P=46873 |
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rhcl |
@wunder 64505 |
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munin |
rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -7.7�C (5:00 PM CST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1027.7 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 PM CST Thursday... |
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rhcl |
National Weather Service: THE DEADLY COMBINATION OF BELOW ZERO TEMPERATURES AND BLUSTERY NORTHWEST WINDS WILL YIELD WIND CHILL VALUES OF 25 TO 35 BELOW ZERO OVER MUCH OF THE THURSDAY NIGHT-SATURDAY MORNING PERIOD. |
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brendan |
all right you on |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.2�C (3:03 PM PST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). |
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brendan |
oh not bad! |
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chris |
bet thats warmer than here today |
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brendan |
chris - can you beat me |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 07, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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brendan |
close |
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chris |
cloudy here today, and its gonna rain soon |
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brendan |
it's amazing outside right now |
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brendan |
could get a better day |
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chris |
:) |
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chris_n2 |
@wunder Dunn, NC |
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chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 1.8�C (6:17 PM EST on January 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -21.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Steady). |
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throws more wood on the fire |
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