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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.5�C (4:43 PM PST on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder 99305 |
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munin |
brendan: Error: No such location could be found. |
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brendan |
@wunder 99705 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Speedway, North Pole, Alaska is -23.9�C (3:41 PM AKST on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: -999%. Dew Point: -65.0�C. Windchill: -24.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003.3 hPa (Falling). |
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pianohacker |
Good evening |
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brendan |
evening pianohcaker |
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brendan |
heh |
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brendan |
man I give up |
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brendan |
pianohacker :) |
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pianohacker |
pianocaker! |
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pianohacker |
Now I'm hungry |
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pianohacker |
How are you doing? |
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brendan |
doing well how about you? |
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pianohacker |
Good, resolved a crisis at the library, now back to school |
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brendan |
crisis averted is good news :) |
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brendan |
cya in a bit #koha |
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pianohacker |
Hola Genji |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 11.3�C (6:08 PM PST on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 12.1�C (10:11 PM EST on December 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady). |
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chris_n2 |
hmmm... dewpoint ~ air temp... no wonder the air is wet |
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brendan |
howdy chris_n2 |
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pianohacker |
chris: around? |
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pianohacker |
also, hi, chris_n2 |
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chris_n2 |
hola brendan, pianohacker |
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* chris_n2 |
exercises one of his five spanish vocabulary ;-) |
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chris |
hiya pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
chris: was thinking of sending a follow-up patch for the test suite to make the extended attributes test less verbose, was curious if that massive debugging output had any use |
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pianohacker |
chris_n2: ¿Solamente sabe usted cinco palabras? |
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chris |
sounds like a good idea to me |
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pianohacker |
cool |
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Amit |
heya brendan, pianohacker, chris |
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Amit |
good morning #koha |
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pianohacker |
Hi, Amit |
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chris_n2 |
pianohacker: unfortunately I barely made it through two years of high school Spanish long ago.... so 'si' |
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pianohacker |
Haha, my response above was coincidentally five words long. Any interest in foreign languages now? |
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brendan |
hi amit |
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Amit |
heya chris_n2 |
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chris_n2 |
pianohacker: greek, latin, hebrew |
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chris_n2 |
hi Amit |
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pianohacker |
oh, cool. Not the typical choices |
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chris_n2 |
pianohacker: interestingly enough, I spend many hours each day with a bunch of folks from Mexico and Spain.... |
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chris_n2 |
so one might think I'd at least speak passing spanish |
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pianohacker |
Meh, depends on your interest. One of the reasons I'm learning spanish from my mom is to be able to talk to my grandparents |
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pianohacker |
Is that through your job? |
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chris_n2 |
coll |
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chris_n2 |
cool, even |
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chris_n2 |
yes |
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pianohacker |
Just from the community it's in? |
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chris_n2 |
we have several students in our student body from those countries as well as four from Mexico on the faculty |
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pianohacker |
ah, cool |
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chris_n2 |
actually one of those on the faculty is from Peru |
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chris_n2 |
pianohacker: llanguage is very interesting around campus at times... students from Singapore, Korea, Philippians, and various other countries makes for very interesting conversations at times |
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* chris_n2 |
had better go find some sleep... |
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chris_n2 |
I hope to get back to Koha next week |
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chris |
sleep well |
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chris_n2 |
tnx chris... g'night #koha |
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CGI433 |
hello |
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CGI433 |
I am a teacher in Shelton Washington |
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CGI433 |
anyone |
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CGI433 |
anyone |
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CGI433 |
anyone |
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CGI433 |
anyone |
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pianohacker |
anyone! |
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brendan |
night all |
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pianohacker |
good night |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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chris |
hi Ropuch |
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Ropuch |
Hello chris (evening for you?) |
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chris |
yep |
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Amit |
heya ropuch |
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Ropuch |
Hi Amit |
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Amit |
hi indradg |
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indradg |
Amit, good afternoon |
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nicomo |
morning evening koha |
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chris |
hi nicomo |
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nicomo |
eh chris how are you? |
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chris |
not too bad, working on fixing C4::Labels so that 3.0.x is passing all it's tests |
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chris |
you'll appreciate this, being a librarian |
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chris |
it now handles callnumbers like MP3-CD F PARKER properly |
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indradg |
chris, that's *nice* :) |
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chris |
and another test fixed |
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chris |
so now, 3.0.5 will run make test and only error on actual errors now :) |
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chris |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/gitbuilder/ |
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chris |
lots of green now |
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Ropuch |
[; |
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kf |
morning #koha |
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chris |
hiya kf |
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Ropuch |
guten Morgen kf :)_ |
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kf |
hi chris |
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kf |
guten Morgen Ropuch |
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CGI847 |
Hi Everybody... A u there Amit |
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CGI847 |
Amit: |
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CGI847 |
Kf? |
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CGI847 |
Chris |
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CGI847 |
Ropuch? |
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imp |
CGI847: just ask your question :) |
| 10:36 |
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CGI847 |
CDS/ISIS records failed to load into the Koha Biblio..only loaded into the resevoir..currently we are entering them manually. |
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CGI847 |
We are running Koha 2.2 on Suse Linux |
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chris |
did you use bulkmarcimport.pl from the commandline ? and why such and old version of koha? |
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CGI847 |
Yes bulkinport.pl was used and the CS/ISIS records were said not vto be MARC-compliant |
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CGI847 |
Have not updraded to lates version yet# |
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chris |
in my experience that is true, cds/isis doesnt produce valid marc, you can use marcedit to fix it though |
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* chris |
has to go to sleep, but take a look on the wiki.koha.org |
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chris |
there is info about cds/isis and koha |
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CGI847 |
I ve tried marcedit on a test Koha server (Windows) but did not succeed |
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chris |
and this http://www.kohadocs.org/CDS_ISIS_to_Koha.html |
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* chris |
goes to bed, good night |
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CGI847 |
Chris: A u saying I shud also hav a look at wiki.koha.org |
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CGI847 |
gud nite chris Ill have a look |
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CGI847 |
But my test server is Windows! |
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CGI847 |
Has anybody experienced problem migratin form CDS/ISIS to Koha |
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Amit |
hi CGI847 |
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Amit |
yes |
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CGI847 |
a u there Amit |
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CGI847 |
Guys what is the best approach to sourcing a Koha consultancy? |
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CGI847 |
See this important system is a fuss considering that one needs to be Linux,SQL and DBA literate |
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CGI847 |
Koha Training I think thats what a novice like me needs rather than fumbling & experimenting around with things |
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jdavidb |
847: There are a number of vendors offering Koha help/training/hosting/installations/support. Where in the world are you? |
| 12:56 |
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CGI847 |
We are in Botswana,Africa and I can tell you the only guys who could help us are in South Africa but there is a fuss also |
| 12:57 |
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jdavidb |
Have you looked at the pay-for-support page at http://koha.org/support/pay-for-support ? It might be worth sending a few of those contacts some email, see what they can do. Won't hurt to ask. |
| 12:58 |
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jdavidb |
Fair Disclaimer: I am biased, as I work for PTFS. I couldn't say for sure if my company would be interested, not knowing your needs, but I can say that our contact, Patrick Jones, would be happy to at least have a conversation with you about it. |
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CGI847 |
Ive sent mail to him. Is he on chat? |
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jdavidb |
The good news, if that doesn't work out for you, is that you don't truly need to be a major expert at Linux or SQL. As long as you're not on the bleeding-edge new stuff, it mostly Just Works, unless your needs are unusual. |
| 12:59 |
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jdavidb |
Patrick is not usually on chat. |
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jdavidb |
He's been out of town for several days, and I don't know if he's back today or not--haven't seen him. |
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CGI847 |
I sent mail to him yesterday |
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* jdavidb |
nods. |
| 13:01 |
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jdavidb |
I'll ping him to look for it, then. May I have your name? |
| 13:02 |
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jdavidb |
We do a fair bit of training via WebEx and similar remote tools, as well as hosting and assisting with on-site installs, so I don't see why we *wouldn't* be able to help, technologically. |
| 13:04 |
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CGI847 |
Hmmm I see.. U see my problem here is that people dont want to engage experts and prefer to get their fingers burnt on something they dont understand |
| 13:05 |
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jdavidb |
I understand. In the current economy, globally, experimentation is sometimes cheaper than expertise, sometimes not, and knowing which way it'll go is challenging. |
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CGI847 |
jdavidb:I would prefer to engage you through my own company |
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jdavidb |
I'll ping Patrick to watch for email from you. He'll be the best one to talk to about an arrangement. :) |
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CGI847 |
Please brief me about the Koha WebEx training |
| 13:11 |
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CGI847 |
How may site has PTFS installed/is supporting? |
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jdavidb |
I personally haven't done too many; we have a couple of folks who do that. It allows for shared-desktop access, along with teleconferencing, for demonstration-style training. Technologically, it's pretty easy to set up and run. It's great for a short how-do-I-do-this, as well as for longer systematic training. |
| 13:12 |
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jdavidb |
Patrick's got all the facts and figures; I'm just the worker bee. :) |
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CGI847 |
Do you have Windows based installations of Koha? |
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jdavidb |
We don't have any Windows sites currently under support, that I know of. |
| 13:17 |
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CGI847 |
I m sure Patrick has replied but problem is our mail server is down.. |
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jdavidb |
I'm fairly sure he has *not* replied yet. He's not in the office yet. |
| 13:18 |
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jdavidb |
Give him a day or two to get caught up, and he'll get back to you. He's good about that |
| 13:19 |
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CGI847 |
Dont you think to a novice Koha is more complicated than commercial systems? |
| 13:21 |
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jdavidb |
To a novice? Lots easier than commercial systems. Most commercial vendors won't give you the time of the day without big stacks of money being involved. With Koha, there is help right here, most any hour of the day. |
| 13:21 |
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jdavidb |
The folks here are very helpful, if you've shown a little initiative, read the docs, tried things, and are able to ask clear, detailed questions. |
| 13:23 |
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CGI847 |
OK I see.. Do you have clients outside the USA |
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jdavidb |
Not currently. Our European partner, PTFS-Europe (http://www.ptfs-europe.com/) has customers all over; not sure if they have any near you or not. |
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CGI847 |
What advice would you give: The Windows or the Linux way? |
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owen |
Hi #koha |
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CGI847 |
What is the distinguising difference between a Linux & a Windows installation of Koha |
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owen |
CGI847: At the moment a Windows installation of 3.x is difficult if not impossible. |
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CGI847 |
3.x is the latest? |
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owen |
Yes |
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owen |
3.0.4, with 3.2 in the works. |
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owen |
However, you can run VirtualBox on Windows and run Linux in a virtual machine. That's what I do for testing. |
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CGI847 |
I see.. |
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CGI847 |
That way youll then be able to run 3.x on Windows ?. |
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owen |
Yes, although I'm not sure how well that would work as a "live" system |
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CGI847 |
Will Koha support for Windows continue in the forseeable future? |
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owen |
People are working on getting Koha to work on Windows, but Windows-compatible version of Koha will probably always lag behind the standard version |
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CGI847 |
So that is to imply that one better go the Linux way..Does Koha support all Linux brands?Suse,mandrake,redhat,ubuntu etc.. |
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nicomo |
CGI847: Debian is best |
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CGI847 |
Hi Nicomo.. why is Debian the best..We are using Suse |
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nicomo |
I'm not a techy guy, I'm a librarian, so you'd have to check with others on this |
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nicomo |
but my understanding is that Debian gives you access to the right list of perl packages |
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nicomo |
more easily than, say, RH |
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ricardo |
Hi everyone |
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ricardo |
@seen hdl |
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munin |
ricardo: hdl was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 13 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <hdl> good. |
| 13:51 |
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ricardo |
@seen hdl_laptop |
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munin |
ricardo: hdl_laptop was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 59 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <hdl_laptop> Is it consolidated figures ? |
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owen |
CGI847: Debian is the distro most developers use, so it's your best bet for everything working properly. Ubuntu has worked fine for my testing system. |
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CGI847 |
Nicomo:Compared to others as per what you know |
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CGI847 |
You mean Koha developers also use Debian? |
| 13:53 |
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nicomo |
I think they mostly do, yes |
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nicomo |
or ubuntu |
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CGI847 |
OR Red Hat??? |
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nicomo |
I think RH has issues with the versions of perl packages |
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owen |
Not that I know of CGI847 |
| 13:55 |
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nicomo |
being out of date on a standard RH install |
| 13:55 |
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ricardo |
CGI847: There is a tutorial of Koha Installation in CentOS |
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ricardo |
CGI847: Installation Manual of Koha 3.03 on CentOS 5.3 |
| 13:55 |
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ricardo |
http://www.dpl.gov.in/centos5-koha3.html |
| 13:55 |
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owen |
CGI847: You can also browse the installation instructions for the various distros: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]cgi?p=Koha;a=tree |
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kf |
we also use ubuntu here |
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CGI847 |
I see.. |
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CGI847 |
I can only see instros for Debian,Debian lenny fedora,Open Suse &Ubuntu ----------What does that imply?? |
| 14:09 |
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owen |
CGI847: I means that installation instructions have only been written for those distros. |
| 14:10 |
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ricardo |
CGI847: It only implies exactly that - that people only submitted installation instructions for those distributions. If you install Koha in other Linux distribution and want to submit instructions for that distribution, then "more power to you"! :) |
| 14:11 |
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CGI847 |
Or could it somehow mean people have not confidently tested it on the other systems?? |
| 14:12 |
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ricardo |
CGI847: I guess that's also possible. I think it's not possible to be sure. Did you want to install Koha in other distribution? Which one? |
| 14:13 |
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CGI847 |
Why is the CentOS Koha instro not published on the Koha site? |
| 14:13 |
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owen |
CGI847: It's also possible that someone has tested it on another distro but didn't contribute installation instructions back to the Koha project. |
| 14:13 |
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ricardo |
CGI847: It is in the Wiki |
| 14:13 |
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ricardo |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php |
| 14:14 |
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ricardo |
"# Koha 3.0.3 on CentOS 5.3 Extremely detailed" |
| 14:14 |
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ricardo |
Maybe because that one is filled with screenshots and those can't go to installation text files? |
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CGI847 |
Hmmm....First time to here on CentOS |
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CGI847 |
Is CentOS popular? first time to hear of the OS |
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ricardo |
CGI847: CentOS is a rebuild of RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) |
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CGI847 |
mY GOD i DIDNT KNOW.. |
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ricardo |
CGI847: No problem :) |
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CGI847 |
So interms of documentation & reliability would one say CentOS has bigger tally than most?? |
| 14:21 |
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owen |
CGI847: Debian is the most used. |
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nahuel |
install of koha on debian is more easier than centos/redhat/fedora |
| 14:22 |
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nahuel |
debian or derivated like ubuntu |
| 14:22 |
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ricardo |
@later tell hdl_laptop Hi Henri! Please read "Will my patches for Bug 3730 (submitted in October) be applied for Koha 3.0.5?" - http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ember/010586.html Thanks! :) |
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munin |
ricardo: The operation succeeded. |
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CGI847 |
With the CentOS Dont we have the issues of versions with perl packges that are in RHEL |
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CGI847 |
With the CentOS Dont we have the issues of versions with perl packges that are in RHEL |
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ricardo |
CGI847: Probably, yes |
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nahuel |
ricardo, if I remember i'll tell him to watch |
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ricardo |
CGI847: Probably, yes (="With the CentOS [you'll probably] have the issues of versions with perl packges that are in RHEL") |
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ricardo |
nahuel: Thanks! :) |
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nahuel |
:) |
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nahuel |
he's not at office today |
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CGI847 |
Who has it at what the Koha developers use?? |
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arturo8a_ |
Im using Ubuntu 9.10 and Koha 3.0.4 =/ |
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nahuel |
our hosting servers are under debian |
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ricardo |
CGI847: I think owen and nahuel are right (most use Debian or Debian derivatives, like Ubuntu). Actually, I'm kind of an exception (I mostly use SUSE - openSUSE / SLES. SLES is SUSE Linux Enterprise Server) |
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nahuel |
But we have clients, under redhat, fedora, centos, suse |
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nahuel |
and has one client under solaris |
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CGI847 |
Nahuel,Owen:I see |
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arturo8a_ |
I could never install and configure zebra on Opensuse = ( |
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arturo8a_ |
so i changed to ubuntu server =) no problems here |
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CGI847 |
What factors would one consider to choose the OS to use? size,reliability,documentation etc?????? |
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nahuel |
packages :) |
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arturo8a_ |
comunity =) |
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nahuel |
and sysadmin choice |
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owen |
Yeah, don't pick one your sysadmin hates ;) |
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arturo8a_ |
yeah, of course... |
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xD |
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arturo8a_ |
emmm how i can show item types on opac - zebra search? |
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nahuel |
arturo8a_, in search result ? |
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nahuel |
or in record view ? |
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ricardo |
arturo8a_: Regarding Zebra on openSUSE, I had (have) the same problem. I'm guessing it is possible to work around it, by using the same approach that the guy that created the CentOS tutorial used. But, for now, I'm just skipping Zebra altogether |
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owen |
arturo8a_: item type information is item-level, and information from search results is title-level |
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nahuel |
owen, depends of item-level_itype |
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tirabo |
arturo8a_: I think that you must modify MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl in order to show 942$c |
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arturo8a_ |
in search result |
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tirabo |
yes |
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arturo8a_ |
MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl ? |
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arturo8a_ |
ok, i will search.. |
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rhcl_away |
@seen chris |
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munin |
rhcl_away: chris was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 8 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: * chris goes to bed, good night |
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arturo8a_ |
tirabo |
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maybe you can help mi on this: |
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tirabo |
arturo8a_: MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl is in /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt or something like this |
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arturo8a_ |
i need to index some authorities marc fields on biblioserver -zebra |
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for users can search some authorities fields on opac normal search |
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woahh =( i need to put every item and image manually? |
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owen |
arturo8a_: What do you mean? |
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arturo8a_ |
in xslt file , MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl |
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arturo8a_ |
i have activate the XSL stylesheet on OPAC config |
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arturo8a_ |
but shows me all items as "Book" >.< |
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arturo8a_ |
I have Books, Articles, CD's ,etc.. =/ |
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owen |
When it shows "Book" it is showing the material type based on the information in your MARC record |
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owen |
It is unrelated to itemtype or collection code. |
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arturo8a_ |
uhmmm |
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arturo8a_ |
i see the problem is the following |
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arturo8a_ |
i have the correctly itemtype on 942c |
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arturo8a_ |
but... in 008, i have a "t" |
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xls searchs on 008 and i think all my items have a t :S there is a way to change this? if i change all items code manually ... will be a problem? |
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arturo8a_ |
look: |
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<xsl:when test="$leader6='t'"><img src="/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/book.png" alt="book" title="book"/> Book</xsl:when> <xsl:when test="$leader6='p'"><img src="/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/report_disk.png" alt="mixed materials" title="mixed materials"/>Mixed Materials</xsl:when> <xsl:when test="$leader6='m'"><img src="/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/computer_link.png" alt="computer file" ti |
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arturo8a: if you 008 is not correct - there is a sys pref so that the icons are not shown in opac |
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kf |
if you want to correct your 008 you can use a tool like marcedit and reimport your records |
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owen |
Hi schuster |
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arturo8a_ |
hi schustr |
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arturo8a_ |
kf,... uhmmm when i creating a new marc record, in 008 edit, it shows date-format on 008-06 field :S not a item type |
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kf |
arturo8a_ im not sure I understand your problem, the small icons in opac are not related to your item types |
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kf |
they are generated from values in coded MARC21 fields, I think 007 or/and 008 |
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kf |
if you are not able to correct your data you can use a sys pref to deactivate those small icons, or you can correct your data using koha cataloging or a tool like marc edit for batch editing |
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arturo8a_ |
mmm |
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arturo8a_ |
my opac is showing correctly icons and items types now |
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arturo8a_ |
but... i "coded" this solution... in the past... |
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arturo8a_ |
looks like here : |
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http://img138.imageshack.us/im[…]820/itemtypes.jpg |
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kf |
ok, so your problem is that it shows correctly but search is not working? |
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arturo8a_ |
no no I thought that are an easy way to define it in style |
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arturo8a_ |
because i coded it... an every time that updates koha, i will need to copy it code and other =S |
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tirabo |
arturo8a_: xslt is highly programmable, so you could modify it in such a way that consider only 942$c to show icons of itemtypes |
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schuster |
Hey all... Beware - I found my old laptop that I had debian and the original 3.0 install!! I'm planning to use it as my "test" 3.2 machine! There may be questions as I get started playing with GIT! |
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owen |
schuster: We're all hiding! |
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schuster |
You know me well! |
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arturo8a_ |
hi tirabo =) Yeah, i obtain a good result for showing item type and it works, the problem is to show the relation image-itemtype ... needs to be maually ? |
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tirabo |
arturo8a_: If I understand the question you should chage in the xsl a few lines to stablish the relations (in esence changing 008x by 952$c) |
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owen |
Anyone around familiar with suggestion management in HEAD? I see "accepted," "rejected," and "checked" as statuses for suggestions |
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owen |
What is "checked?" |
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arturo8a_ |
tirabo: mm sorry tirabo, the problem is in my library... i asked to my librarian and she said that here she puts Books,Articles,thesis as diferent item type... when the correct way is to put all articles,thesis, and books just as "Books"... my mistake =) |
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owen |
Opinions welcomed on proposed changes to suggestion management interface: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3844 |
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munin |
Bug 3844: trivial, P5, ---, oleonard myacpl.org, ASSIGNED, Manage Suggestions Design Needs Work |
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arturo8a_ |
anyone more thinks that language files needs to be in a separate file and template in another? |
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nicomo |
owen: +1 |
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brendan |
morning |
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chris |
morning |
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owen |
Hi chris, brendan |
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kf |
morning chris :) |
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rhcl |
This is interesting. |
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rhcl |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2[…]ware_freedom_law/ |
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kf |
and bye #koha, bbl |
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chris |
yeah they have been selling modified versions without the source code, it seems a pretty clear cut case |
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chris |
soon as you dont comply with the GPL, standard copyright law kicks in, and then you're toast |
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owen |
Is there a way to make my templates fail if I've got an unclosed TMPL tag? |
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chris |
i know how to do that with template toolkit, dunno with html::template sorry owen |
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arturo8a_ |
dvanced search by publication date doesnt work for me... anyone has tested it? |
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schuster |
debian question - how can I tell if samba is installed? I'm trying to setup a fileshare with I believe a windows machine |
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owen |
schuster: What about dpkg -l "samba*" ? |
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chris |
apt-cache policy samba |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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Ropuch |
Hi #koha :) |
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jdavidb |
howdy, #koha! |
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chris |
wb cait, and hi jdavidb and Ropuch |
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veryinky |
:| |
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jdavidb |
hi, veryinky. |
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veryinky |
Hey. Got koha running fine. My new task is to enter every book in the place. So feeling very : | |
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veryinky |
It's 4000+ books, so I don't think I'll be doing much else for quite a while. |
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jdavidb |
yikes! Yeah, that'll keep you busy for a while! |
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Ropuch |
veryinky: No that bad, actually |
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schuster |
veryinky - I sure hope you are using biblios.net or a z39.50 to find the MARC! |
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moodaepo |
veryinky How are you entering them? |
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Ropuch |
I have: 6k+6K and other 1,5k aproaching in january |
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schuster |
I also have been using a macro program to help me fill in some of the data on the item record. |
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veryinky |
Yeah. z39.5. By hand. These are 100 to 200 year old books. |
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Ropuch |
Ow |
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veryinky |
So it's not like I can look them up by their isbn number. Some are really neat. Like this 250 year old bible. Thing is huge. Leather cover, gold trim, huge lock. |
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veryinky |
(not that I understand why a bible would need a lock) |
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moodaepo |
veryinky I love books with locks one them ; ) |
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Ropuch |
My task is easy with z3950, I have 1950+ books, most of them are 1975+ |
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Ropuch |
veryinky: libri catenati? |
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veryinky |
That one is probably going into a cabinet or display since it's rather valuable. |
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veryinky |
Sorry, I'm not a librarian. Engineering student and this is a part time job. So no idea. |
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veryinky |
I can ask the historian if you want. |
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Ropuch |
heheh, it's ok |
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Ropuch |
No, libri catenati are "chained books" - mediaval libraries often had books bound to the desk |
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Ropuch |
veryinky: why a library with such old and specific books want to catalog them with your hands? |
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veryinky |
Historical Society, "La société historique du marigot" |
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veryinky |
It's a small organization which stores historical documents for the south shore of montreal, quebec. Mostly for genealogy research, old documents. It's not big enough to be a museum though. |
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veryinky |
http://www.marigot.ca/ |
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veryinky |
The big projects right now are digitizing and classifying old documents, making 3d models of 17th century forts from old blueprints, and my project of going through the various books they have in storage. |
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jdavidb |
Lots of museum collections smaller than that, veryinky. Be proud; those are interesting projects! |
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veryinky |
The historian also wants to set it up so people can search for books and documents in nearby universities and government historical archives. Hence koha |
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veryinky |
Thanks. He's rather impressed with koha so far. |
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martinmorris |
i'm just checking this out myself and biblios.net has more records than i expected |
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martinmorris |
however, if i want to send any records direct to my system i'm not sure of which settings to put into my biblios.net account |
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jdavidb |
For what your institution needs, it is *very* good. Some of the things that still make some circulating libraries twitch just don't apply to you. A little bit of time, and you can get it ticking along like a well-tuned watch for 'em. |
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martinmorris |
can anybody point me to some documentation there, i can't quite find the answer? |
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schuster |
Generally I save them to the completed folder and later export them in MARC 21 and then use the Koha import function to get them into Koha. |
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schuster |
There are lots of Large university collections so I suspect you may have a fairly good hit rate due to rare book collections.] |
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martinmorris |
that's fair enough |
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martinmorris |
but does koha have a way of directly accepting records? |
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richard |
hi |
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imp |
heyho |
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schuster |
If you have control - local server - you can set it up I believe as a "send target" I think is what it was called - but I don't know how that works with indexing. |
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schuster |
Schuster out - holiday work party meeting with 60 librarians. |
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* cait |
need patient person to help with zebra problem |
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cait |
can somebody help me with zebra? im out of ideas :( |
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brendan |
cait - I'm around for a minute or two and if you paste your question maybe someone else will pop in |
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cait |
zebraserver is running (user koha) and rebuild_zebra runs as crontab every 3 minutes |
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cait |
I looked in zebra_queue tables and i see that new and updated records get in there |
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cait |
and after indexing column done is changed from 0 to 1 |
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cait |
i see no problem and have no error message, but search does not work :( |
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cait |
and hi brendan :) |
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brendan |
cait if you type this -- ps -aef | grep zebra |
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brendan |
do you have more than a few lines that appear? |
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brendan |
sorry I mean on your command line |
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cait |
koha 2620 2586 0 01:51 pts/0 00:00:00 zebrasrv -f /home/katrin/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
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cait |
koha 3760 3719 0 02:35 pts/1 00:00:00 grep --color=auto zebra |
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cait |
no problem, thx for the command, my linux vocabulary is very small :) |
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brendan |
cait - phone is ringing |
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brendan |
be back later :( |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
thx brendan |
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ricardo |
Gotta go. Take care people! |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
I start rebuild_zebra with -v, there are no errors, but this: 01:54:02-15/12 zebraidx(2723) [log] Records: 0 i/u/d 0/0/0 |
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arturo8a_ |
hi cait |
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do you put nozebra off in koha syspref? |
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cait |
hi arturo8a_ no its on |
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cait |
ok nozebra is off , so zebra is on :) |
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cait |
other ideas? |
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cait |
this is the third evening im working on this zebra problem - plz help me to fix it so I can start testing and writing patches ;) |
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cait |
i solved part of the problem, can still not search, but zebraidx(2723) [log] Records: 0 i/u/d 0/4/0 now |
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cait |
it works! |
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cait |
good night #koha |
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Nate |
good night #koha |
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be back in a bit koha :) |
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