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Hi, actually no trouble just dipping annoyingly in and out, is how it works on the phone |
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wizzyrea_mobile |
How is everybody? |
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wizzyrea_mobile |
Ought to set up my irc bouncer I guess so it doesn't kick me out every time I quit the app |
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bah, going to get my netbook brb |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
hey netbook wizzy |
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Wizzyrea_ |
hello :) |
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Wizzyrea_ |
what excitement is going on here this evening |
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chris |
not a lot |
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chris |
ive finished gardening and was poking at solr |
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Wizzyrea_ |
sounds like a productive day |
| 02:56 |
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chris |
yep, now im just waiting for kickoff at in 3.5 hours to see if we can qualify for the football world cup |
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Wizzyrea_ |
:) sounds like a lovely saturday |
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chris |
well i detest gardening, but apart from that, it's good :) |
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Wizzyrea_ |
haha. I like to garden, but we rent so there's not much point |
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chris |
you didnt go out drinking with sharon and heather? |
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Wizzyrea_ |
no, I wish I had though |
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chris |
looked like fun |
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Wizzyrea_ |
heh yea |
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Wizzyrea_ |
heather doesn't drink |
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Wizzyrea_ |
ever |
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chris |
ahh |
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Wizzyrea_ |
today has been overall a poor day experience |
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chris |
bummer |
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Wizzyrea_ |
eh, it's ok. |
| 03:18 |
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chris_n |
g'evening |
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chris |
heya chris_n |
| 03:19 |
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chris_n |
hi chris, how's the garden doing there? |
| 03:19 |
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chris |
pretty much done for the day |
| 03:19 |
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* chris_n |
is just finishing up harvesting broccoli and cauliflower |
| 03:20 |
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chris_n |
monster sizes this year |
| 03:20 |
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chris_n |
25 to 30cm across |
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Wizzyrea_ |
holy moly |
| 03:21 |
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chris_n |
yeah, not your typical "Wal-Mart, etc" sizes |
| 03:22 |
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chris |
hehe |
| 03:22 |
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chris_n |
ever tried fried cauliflower? |
| 03:23 |
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chris_n |
make up your favorite shrimp batter, cut up the cauliflower, dip, drop in the deep fat fryer, cook until golden brown, add salt (to help taste and blood pressure), enjoy |
| 03:25 |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
sounds good |
| 03:26 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
I've had cauliflower tempura before, yum |
| 03:39 |
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chris_n |
I like most anything with cauliflower in it |
| 03:39 |
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chris_n |
come to think of it... I like most anything. |
| 03:39 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
we used to make the most awesome pesto mashed cauliflower |
| 03:40 |
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chris_n |
man, now I'm hungry and nowhere near the fridge... :-( |
| 03:42 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
http://www.grouprecipes.com/37[…]-cauliflower.html |
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Wizzyrea_ |
welcome back brendan |
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brendan |
howdy Wizzyrea_ |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.4�C (7:45 PM PST on November 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PST Saturday... |
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Wizzyrea_ |
@wunder 66047 |
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munin |
Wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 15.6�C (9:46 PM CST on November 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002.6 hPa (Rising). |
| 03:48 |
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brendan |
brrrrr.... it feels colder than that here |
| 03:49 |
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chris |
heh |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 13.0�C (10:39 PM EST on November 13, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
| 03:50 |
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chris_n |
gotcha both beat ;-) |
| 03:50 |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (4:00 PM NZDT on November 14, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
it needs to get colder here |
| 03:50 |
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chris |
so the bahrain soccer players get too cold |
| 03:50 |
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chris_n |
nasty here too; we're just escaping the remnants of ida |
| 03:50 |
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chris_n |
heh |
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chris |
rain would be ideal |
| 03:50 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
hehe |
| 03:51 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
chris_n is there lots of flooding or are you just getting wind and rain |
| 03:51 |
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chris_n |
wednesday we had 6 inches (15cm) of rain |
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Wizzyrea_ |
jebus |
| 03:51 |
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chris_n |
thursday probably nearly the same |
| 03:52 |
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checks to see if his life jacket and raft are still nearby |
| 03:52 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
yikes! |
| 03:52 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
http://www.grouprecipes.com/57[…]oy-ice-cream.html another one of ours |
| 03:53 |
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* chris_n |
is going to try Wizzyrea's pesto this weekend |
| 03:53 |
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chris |
ok, this is the front runner for the conference |
| 03:55 |
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chris_n |
Wizzyrea: mexican vanilla ++ |
| 03:55 |
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brendan |
sweet - let's see |
| 03:55 |
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chris_n |
we have friends bring us a quart every so often from MX |
| 03:55 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
although I have read that sometimes the mexican stuff is toxic :( |
| 03:56 |
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chris |
http://www.mercure.com/gb/hote[…]eet/meeting.shtml |
| 03:57 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
ooh fancy |
| 03:57 |
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chris |
they are one of the few that offer just the venue |
| 03:57 |
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brendan |
Photo's always look great |
| 03:57 |
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chris |
without having to use their caterers |
| 03:57 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
yes, that would likely be important |
| 03:57 |
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chris |
also that is the same street as my work, just 1 block away |
| 03:58 |
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chris |
so im gonna go look on monday |
| 03:58 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
how conveeeenient |
| 03:58 |
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chris |
they offered a nice deal on accom to |
| 03:58 |
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chris |
$114.00 incl GST (single) or $129.00 incl GST (double/ twin) |
| 03:58 |
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chris_n |
nice looking outfit |
| 03:58 |
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brendan |
in NZD |
| 03:59 |
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chris |
84, and 95 in USD (under current exchange rates) |
| 03:59 |
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brendan |
that's pretty nice |
| 03:59 |
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chris |
and we are at all time high |
| 04:00 |
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chris |
so assuming it returns closer to normal |
| 04:00 |
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chris |
that would be more like 70 |
| 04:02 |
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chris |
(you can get cheaper, quite a lot cheaper in the backpackers or yha, and the motels) |
| 04:02 |
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chris |
i plan to give a big range, so that ppl can suit their budget |
| 04:03 |
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chris |
but that doesnt sound too bad, i think it is less than it cost me for the holiday inn in plano |
| 04:04 |
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chris |
and its right in the cbd |
| 04:04 |
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brendan |
yeah -- most people should be able to find their own accommodations too. |
| 04:04 |
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chris |
yep |
| 04:04 |
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chris |
im just gonna try and list all the ones i know of |
| 04:04 |
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chris |
in one place, to make it easier |
| 04:05 |
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brendan |
that's all going to be good information |
| 04:05 |
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chris |
i added some tips, like dont tip, for god sakes dont start that trend here |
| 04:05 |
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chris |
:) |
| 04:05 |
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brendan |
heh |
| 04:05 |
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chris_n |
lol |
| 04:06 |
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chris_n |
chris: here they are so spoiled that way that some places go ahead and add the tip into your bill for you :-P |
| 04:07 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
god, i wish they'd just pay wait staff properly |
| 04:07 |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ngton#travel_tips |
| 04:08 |
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chris_n |
I think that wait staff is permitted pay less than minimum |
| 04:08 |
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brendan |
tip - don't pet a burning dog |
| 04:09 |
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chris |
heh |
| 04:09 |
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chris_n |
@quote add <brendan> tip - don't pet a burning dog |
| 04:09 |
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munin |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. Quote #46 added. |
| 04:09 |
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chris |
the taxi is a good tip, lots of people dont know that its deregulated |
| 04:09 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
tip - don't eat yellow snow |
| 04:10 |
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brendan |
yeah the taxi thing is interesting |
| 04:10 |
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chris |
oh.. also you cant hail taxi's |
| 04:10 |
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chris |
you either have to get them at a taxi stand |
| 04:10 |
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chris |
or call them |
| 04:10 |
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chris |
i should add that |
| 04:11 |
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thinks a taxi in NZ could be expensive... no? |
| 04:11 |
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chris |
hmmm |
| 04:11 |
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chris |
20 min ride = about 22$ |
| 04:11 |
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chris |
nz |
| 04:11 |
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chris |
(no tip and tax on top of that) |
| 04:12 |
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chris_n |
what's a rental car cost? |
| 04:12 |
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chris |
$4 on the bus |
| 04:12 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
bus++ |
| 04:12 |
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chris |
buses are fine here, i know aht some places in the US buses are scary |
| 04:12 |
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chris |
but here they are fine |
| 04:12 |
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chris |
$65 a day |
| 04:13 |
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chris |
(you have to pay for your own gas) |
| 04:13 |
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chris |
id thoroughly recommend not hiring a car for the time you are in wellington |
| 04:13 |
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chris |
buses and the train go everywhere, and parking costs a lot |
| 04:14 |
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chris_n |
sounds like spain |
| 04:14 |
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chris_n |
buses, trains, subway |
| 04:14 |
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chris_n |
cheap, quick, and neat |
| 04:15 |
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chris |
plus US tourists have a habit of crashing into things :) |
| 04:15 |
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brendan |
I'm excited to see the birds of NZ |
| 04:15 |
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chris |
get off the plane, jetlagged, 13 hour flight, get a car, crash it driving out of the airport |
| 04:15 |
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* chris_n |
tends to drive on the left side of the road occasionally even here :-) |
| 04:15 |
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brendan |
I want to see some of the crazy rubber eating kea's (is that right chris) |
| 04:16 |
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chris |
yep, only in the south island tho (in the wild) |
| 04:16 |
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brendan |
or a kiwi |
| 04:16 |
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chris |
you can see both of those in the wellington zoo |
| 04:16 |
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chris |
unlikely to ever see a kiwi in the wild |
| 04:16 |
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chris |
i never have |
| 04:16 |
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brendan |
cool |
| 04:16 |
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chris |
i have seen kea in the wild tho |
| 04:16 |
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brendan |
yeah I've heard that about kiwi's |
| 04:17 |
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brendan |
There are some birds that live hear -- that I've been searching for 15 years for and haven't seen |
| 04:17 |
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brendan |
I heard the kea are really silly and actually much bigger than one would think |
| 04:17 |
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chris |
yep |
| 04:17 |
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chris |
they are really big |
| 04:19 |
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brendan |
bbiab |
| 04:19 |
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chris |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRW4ztbY8Ok |
| 04:19 |
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chris |
and smart |
| 04:21 |
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chris_n |
cool |
| 04:21 |
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brendan |
wow that's pretty amazing |
| 04:21 |
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* chris_n |
finds himself cheering |
| 04:22 |
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chris_n |
I wonder if one could write perl code to open an electronic door for food? |
| 04:23 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
haha how funny |
| 04:24 |
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chris_n |
you know you're up past your bedtime when you see the emails from your cron jobs dropping in your inbox |
| 04:24 |
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chris |
hehe |
| 04:24 |
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Wizzyrea_ |
ohhh true |
| 04:24 |
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chris |
brendan: they eat rubber seals off the roof of campervans, and get inside and eat all the food |
| 04:24 |
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chris |
(thru the skylight) |
| 04:25 |
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chris_n |
aggressive critters! |
| 04:25 |
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chris |
yep |
| 04:25 |
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chris_n |
I thought black bears were bad for going after food |
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chris |
ok time to go cook my family some food |
| 04:28 |
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chris |
you guys should sleep :) |
| 04:29 |
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chris_n |
:-) |
| 04:34 |
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brendan |
Ok good night -- sleep well all |
| 04:34 |
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brendan |
catchya tomorrow |
| 04:34 |
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brendan |
:P |
| 04:38 |
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chris_n |
bye |
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chris_n |
time to find sleep |
| 04:56 |
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chris_n |
g'night |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
| 09:01 |
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chris |
nz just qualified for the football world cup in 2010 |
| 09:01 |
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* chris |
is happy |
| 09:01 |
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chris |
2nd time ever, and 27 years since the last time |
| 09:02 |
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chris |
1-0 vs bahrain |
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Topic for #koha is now Discussion channel for the Koha ILS | Next foundation forming meeting is scheduled at 19:00 UTC+0 on 3 December 2009 |
| 18:36 |
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chris_n2 |
wb logbot_backup |
| 18:37 |
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chris |
ricardo: huge parties in wellington last night |
| 18:38 |
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ricardo |
chris: Nice |
| 18:39 |
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ricardo |
chris: I'm getting a bug (may be due to my setup). I'm getting correctly the "Português" and "English" links in the lower part of the screen, but when I click on "Português", nothing happens: I remain in English |
| 18:39 |
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ricardo |
chris: That's in Firefox... In IE, the Bug is reversed (I start in "Português" and can't change it to "English") |
| 18:39 |
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ricardo |
chris: I'm trying to debug this now |
| 18:41 |
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chris |
and it is setting the cookie? |
| 18:41 |
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ricardo |
chris: That's where I'm now actually ("setlanguagecookie") |
| 18:42 |
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pianohackr|work |
chris_n2: you can set the right database in yaz-client by using base biblios |
| 18:43 |
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chris |
chris_n2: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ is back |
| 18:43 |
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chris |
ricardo: you can view cookies in firefox, i would look and see if it is being set |
| 18:43 |
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chris_n2 |
pianohacker|work: that worked; tnx! |
| 18:44 |
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chris_n2 |
tnx chris |
| 18:44 |
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ricardo |
chris: Where in Firefox? (if it's hard to explain it, I'll google it) |
| 18:44 |
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ricardo |
chris: Well, the Web Developer extension shows it: |
| 18:44 |
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chris |
in prefences |
| 18:45 |
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ricardo |
KohaOpacLanguage |
| 18:45 |
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ricardo |
pt-PT |
| 18:45 |
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ricardo |
myhost.mydomain.info |
| 18:45 |
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ricardo |
Path: / |
| 18:45 |
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ricardo |
I'll delete them all and try again |
| 18:46 |
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ricardo |
Same results, apparently :( |
| 18:47 |
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chris |
right so the cookie is being set, it just doesnt look like its being read |
| 18:48 |
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ricardo |
chris: OK... So, I'll debug "themelanguage" now |
| 18:50 |
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chris |
just put a warn in there showing what language it thnks it should be showing |
| 18:50 |
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ricardo |
chris: Right |
| 18:55 |
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ricardo |
chris: Yep... It's "accept_language" that's overwriting the value of "pt-PT" that was (correcty) written in the cookie |
| 18:56 |
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ricardo |
chris: I may have an idea for a fix... Let me try it |
| 18:59 |
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ricardo |
Woo-hoo! :) |
| 18:59 |
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ricardo |
Now, I just have to test this with other languages and without cookies working |
| 19:00 |
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chris_n2 |
any thoughts on why a search produces results in yaz-client, but not in koha staff-client or opac? |
| 19:01 |
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chris |
chris_n2: i normally stop zebra, then run it from the commandline, so i can see whats happening, then hit a search url and see what it says |
| 19:05 |
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pastebot |
"ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Proposed fix for the "themelanguage" sub in Output.pm" (17 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/57 |
| 19:05 |
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ricardo |
chris: This works for me. Give me your opinion and I'll submit this as a patch if this looks good for you |
| 19:08 |
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chris |
you dont need the extra if $lang |
| 19:08 |
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chris |
since you will only get to that point if $lang is set |
| 19:08 |
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chris |
apart from that it looks fine |
| 19:08 |
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ricardo |
chris: Right... I though so too, but wasn't sure. |
| 19:09 |
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ricardo |
(I didn't know if $lang was UNDEF it it would appear equal or different from "") |
| 19:10 |
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chris |
yes it would the first if would be better as if ($lang && $lang ne ''){ |
| 19:10 |
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chris_n2 |
chris: what switches do you start zebra with when troubleshooting? |
| 19:10 |
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chris |
that would stop any warns |
| 19:10 |
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chris_n2 |
-v none,fatal,warn ? |
| 19:10 |
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chris |
yep |
| 19:10 |
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* chris_n2 |
cannot get any output from cli with those |
| 19:10 |
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ricardo |
chris_n2: Right... But then the "else" could apply to any of the 2 cases. And I don't want that |
| 19:10 |
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chris |
try -v debug |
| 19:11 |
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chris |
no it wouldnt |
| 19:11 |
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chris_n2 |
ok gobs of output now ;-) |
| 19:11 |
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ricardo |
chris: Like I said, I wasn't sure. So, I preferred to apply "paranoid programming" :) |
| 19:12 |
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ricardo |
http://dictionary.reference.co[…]programming?jss=0 |
| 19:12 |
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chris |
well what you have there will cause warns in the error log |
| 19:12 |
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chris |
more paranoid is to go if ($lang && $lang ne ''){ |
| 19:12 |
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chris_n2 |
chris: ok, lots of output on a working install during a search; *no* output on the none working install doing a search |
| 19:12 |
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chris |
then it wont ever complain abou uninitialized variables |
| 19:12 |
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chris_n2 |
yet, yaz-client works fine on both |
| 19:13 |
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chris |
chris_n2: i bet its not talking to zebra then |
| 19:13 |
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chris |
koha that is |
| 19:13 |
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chris_n2 |
koha-conf.xml problem? |
| 19:13 |
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chris |
check nozebra isnt on |
| 19:13 |
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chris_n2 |
checked earlier and it is not |
| 19:13 |
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ricardo |
chris: OK... Because I'm setting lang in the else block, I guess that's OK. Right, you convinced me. Let me do that then. |
| 19:13 |
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chris_n2 |
but I am using tcp for zebra since I'm on win32 |
| 19:14 |
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chris_n2 |
but made the changes in koha-conf.xml |
| 19:14 |
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chris |
right |
| 19:14 |
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chris |
i bet its not actually connecting |
| 19:14 |
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chris_n2 |
<listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:@:9998/bibliosocket</listen> |
| 19:14 |
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chris_n2 |
<listen id="authorityserver" >tcp:@:9999/authoritysocket</listen> |
| 19:14 |
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chris |
you proobably need to do some warns in C4::Context |
| 19:14 |
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chris_n2 |
ok |
| 19:14 |
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chris |
see if its actually managing to connect to zebra |
| 19:15 |
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chris |
because you should get at least that |
| 19:15 |
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chris |
even if then the search failed with a 109 or something, would still see the connect |
| 19:16 |
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chris_n2 |
I assume Zconn is responsible for the connection? |
| 19:17 |
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chris |
richardo: can you paste the diff of your changes |
| 19:17 |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "The code in master" (7 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/58 |
| 19:18 |
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chris |
ricardo: that is what is in master and that seems to work fine |
| 19:18 |
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ricardo |
chris: Yes, but the version in 3.0.x is different (patch from Nahuel): |
| 19:19 |
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pianohackr|work |
Unintentional POD humor, vol 23: "FIXME: This function reflects how inscrutable fines logic is. Fix both." |
| 19:19 |
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ricardo |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]43ebca1c7c98238cf |
| 19:20 |
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ricardo |
chris: And my patch is based on the version from Nahuel (should be applied *after* applying his patch) |
| 19:20 |
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chris |
yep, the master implementation of that sub routine seems much cleaner to me ricardo |
| 19:21 |
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ricardo |
chris: But maybe Nahuel + My solution works for the case when "http accept language" misses some language that is set in the cookie and translations (like "pt-PT", that doesn't exist in the list of languages in Firefox as that, but only as "pt") |
| 19:22 |
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chris |
i doubt it |
| 19:22 |
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chris |
but it will stop it using languages that havent been set in the syspref |
| 19:23 |
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chris_n2 |
interesting... ZOOM::Connection returns a connection object without a port or host attribute set |
| 19:23 |
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ricardo |
chris: "but it will stop it using languages that havent been set in the syspref". Stop "it"... By "it" do you mean "the bug"? |
| 19:23 |
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chris |
different bug |
| 19:23 |
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chris |
where someone has the templates for de lying around |
| 19:24 |
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ricardo |
Bug 3754 |
| 19:24 |
|
munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref |
| 19:24 |
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chris |
but hasnt allowed that as an option |
| 19:24 |
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ricardo |
This bug ^^^ ? |
| 19:24 |
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chris |
yeah |
| 19:24 |
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ricardo |
chris: OK. Got it. |
| 19:25 |
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chris |
we will have to cherry-pick and make the 2 patches into one tidier one for master |
| 19:25 |
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ricardo |
OK... So I'll submit my patch as a follow-up patch for Nahuel's for 3.0.x branch. I'll let the "powers to be" to decide if they apply it to the Master as well or not |
| 19:25 |
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ricardo |
chris: Fine by me! :) |
| 19:25 |
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chris |
otherwise this will just break again for 3.2 |
| 19:25 |
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ricardo |
chris: *nod* |
| 19:25 |
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chris |
and the RM is not going to have time to do that |
| 19:25 |
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chris |
so someone will have to do it for him |
| 19:26 |
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chris |
ideally every patch should apply to master, patches only for 3.0.x branch makes life hard |
| 19:26 |
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chris |
but what's done is done now |
| 19:26 |
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ricardo |
chris: Well... If the RM wants to save time, I guess he could as well cherry-pick the two patches as they are from 3.0.x... If he wants a tidier patch, he may ask for it or do it himself |
| 19:27 |
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chris |
wrong way round |
| 19:27 |
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ricardo |
chris: I understand that, but people test things that are closer to their setups. My installations are 3.0.x so those are the one that I have setups |
| 19:27 |
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chris |
patches should go for master, and be cherry picked to 3.0.x if they are valid bugfixes |
| 19:28 |
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chris |
yep, be aware that if i am RM for 3.4 i will be stricter about it though |
| 19:28 |
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ricardo |
chris: That's your right :) |
| 19:29 |
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chris |
either ppl send patches for both, or just master :) |
| 19:29 |
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chris |
(by both it will be master and 3.2.x) |
| 19:29 |
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ricardo |
chris: I can send the patches for both... but I can NOT test them now. I don't have a setup for "master". And I don't like to submit things that I haven't tested :( |
| 19:29 |
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ricardo |
I can only do (partial) tests for 3.0.x |
| 19:30 |
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chris |
thats fine for now, like i say whats done is done, there are a bunch of patches that have been only applied for 3.0.x |
| 19:30 |
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chris |
that are going to be missed for master .. just dont want to repeat that for 3.4 |
| 19:32 |
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ricardo |
chris: I understand awhat you're saying... I see several pros and cons for the several choices, so I'll leave it up to you (and others) for the best decision if/when this decision happens again for 3.4 |
| 19:33 |
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chris |
the major con is bugs that are fixed, all come back with 3.2 |
| 19:33 |
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ricardo |
chris: *nod* Regression |
| 19:33 |
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chris |
i thnk that outweighs all pros |
| 19:34 |
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chris |
the main solution i think will be the maintainer and manager will have to constantly be making sure bugfixes are applied to both |
| 19:34 |
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ricardo |
chris: If you get some testers so that people can test patches submitted by people that haven't tested them for the newest branch, that's great |
| 19:34 |
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chris |
an untested patch is better than no patch in my book, because at least the RM will see it |
| 19:34 |
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ricardo |
And then, you could do what you're saying: commit to newest branch and cherry pick it to oldest |
| 19:35 |
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chris |
yep, we'll figure something out |
| 19:35 |
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ricardo |
chris: OK. That's the tradeoff - is it better or worse to accept "untested patch"? I guess that depends on the RM. Because you will be the RM, more power to you :) |
| 19:36 |
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chris |
oh it wont get accepted untested |
| 19:36 |
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chris |
but at least it will be in the queue to get tested |
| 19:36 |
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ricardo |
chris: Right |
| 19:36 |
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chris |
if its not submitted, it just doesnt even get seen |
| 19:37 |
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ricardo |
chris: Sure |
| 19:37 |
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chris |
its a shame liblime lost acmoore |
| 19:37 |
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chris |
(amongst all the other developers too) |
| 19:38 |
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chris |
he had started work on a smoke test server, which could be used to apply patches and run automated tests |
| 19:39 |
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chris |
was a good start along making it a little bit easier, at least you would spot things that blew up fast |
| 19:39 |
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chris_n2 |
chris: found it: <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:@:9998/bibliosocket</listen> should be <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:localhost:9998/bibliosocket</listen> |
| 19:39 |
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chris_n2 |
works like a charm now |
| 19:39 |
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chris |
ah ha |
| 19:39 |
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chris |
cool |
| 19:40 |
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chris |
silent_errors-- |
| 19:40 |
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chris_n2 |
the zebra manual shows the @ in that position, but it does not work here |
| 19:40 |
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chris_n2 |
yeah |
| 19:40 |
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ricardo |
chris: *Nod* acmoore++ |
| 19:44 |
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ricardo |
chris: |
| 19:44 |
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ricardo |
[Koha-patches] [PATCH] Bug 3754: Follow-up patch |
| 19:44 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinettibiblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref |
| 19:44 |
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ricardo |
http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ember/004847.html |
| 19:45 |
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ricardo |
Going to watch the Portugal - Bosnia soccer game now (for the World Cup 2010). Take care! :) |
| 19:46 |
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chris_n2 |
well, it appears that Koha is fully functional now on my MSWin32 XP Pro machine |
| 19:46 |
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pianohackr|work |
Yay! |
| 19:47 |
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* chris_n2 |
now will try to remember how he did it |
| 19:47 |
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pianohackr|work |
chris_n2++ |
| 19:47 |
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pianohackr|work |
now, I have a circ-related question for you all |
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chris_n2 |
there has been quite a bit of help from some of the folks who maintain Strawberry as well |
| 19:47 |
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chris |
ricardo: maybe nz will play portugal :) |
| 19:47 |
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pianohackr|work |
on my local version, items are not set to itemlost = 0 when returned |
| 19:48 |
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pianohackr|work |
I haven't seen anything that would fix the bug in latest master |
| 19:48 |
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pianohackr|work |
Am I smoking something, is this not a bug, ...? |
| 19:48 |
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chris |
i wonder when it got introduced, cos that sounds like something people would have noticed |
| 19:48 |
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pianohackr|work |
you would think |
| 19:48 |
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* chris_n2 |
agrees |
| 19:48 |
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chris_n2 |
a regression probably |
| 19:49 |
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chris |
a regression from 1999 |
| 19:49 |
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chris |
:) |
| 19:49 |
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chris_n2 |
hehe |
| 19:49 |
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chris |
lemme try it |
| 19:49 |
|
* chris_n2 |
contemplates going to see http://playmakersrep.blogspot.com/ |
| 19:49 |
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chris_n2 |
a 6.5 hour production |
| 19:52 |
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pianohackr|work |
A simple ModItem( { itemlost => 0 }, undef, $item->{'itemnumber'} ); above $messages->{'WasLost'} = 1; in AddReturn fixes the problem for me |
| 19:53 |
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chris |
Not checked out. |
| 19:53 |
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chris |
Item was lost, now found. |
| 19:53 |
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chris |
is what i get on the screen lemme check the db |
| 19:54 |
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chris |
yep that seems to set it back |
| 19:55 |
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chris |
lemme check the code im running |
| 19:59 |
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chris |
hmm it seems to be working for me |
| 20:00 |
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pianohackr|work |
Blergh. Are you on latest master, and if not, do you have a link to your git repo? |
| 20:00 |
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chris |
latest master |
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rickw |
good morning ... n e 1 awake! |
| 20:03 |
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chris_n2 |
hi rickw |
| 20:03 |
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pianohackr|work |
hi rickw |
| 20:04 |
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pianohackr|work |
chris: this is really confusing. ModDateLastSeen is the only function that would reset itemlost, and it seems like it wouldn't be called if the item wasn't checked out |
| 20:04 |
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rickw |
may I ask a zerbra relateed searching pquestion? |
| 20:05 |
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pianohackr|work |
maybe |
| 20:05 |
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chris |
hmm weird pianohackr|work, the item i checked in wasnt checked out |
| 20:05 |
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* pianohackr|work |
tries this again |
| 20:05 |
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rickw |
we are getting an ERROR 114 from zebra |
| 20:06 |
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rickw |
the catalogue searhc works on our Koha/3.0.1 instance when we do a simple search, e.g. for "drama" 220 books returned |
| 20:06 |
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chris |
pianohackr|work: looking at AddReturn ModDateLastSeen should get called, it would only not if the item was withdrawn |
| 20:06 |
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rickw |
when we ask for "items available" we get 0 results (there should be many) and the ERROR 114 occurs |
| 20:07 |
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pianohackr|work |
chris: okay, yes it should. There's something else wrong, thanks for jamming my brain into gear |
| 20:07 |
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chris |
pianohackr|work: ahh i lie, its when independent branches are on that it bails out |
| 20:07 |
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rickw |
on anthoer Koha/3.0.1 the original search and refinment to "avilable items" does work fine, so i suspect it is something to do with differences in config between the two kohas |
| 20:07 |
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chris |
pianohackr|work: it could have something to do with that maybe? |
| 20:07 |
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chris |
if ($hbr ne $branch && C4::Context->preference("IndependantBranches")){ |
| 20:08 |
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chris |
it returns if that condition is met (before ModDateLastSeen) |
| 20:08 |
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pianohackr|work |
Oh-hoh, I see what happened. gmcharlt's b59e0166125efdd381078ccf57ef7fd7b03b1cd4 , which I have not applied to our local copy yet, fixed this problem along with some others |
| 20:09 |
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pianohackr|work |
Not in the mood to deal with the merge conflicts a complete merge from origin would cause, I'll just cherry-pick it |
| 20:09 |
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pianohackr|work |
Thanks again, chris |
| 20:09 |
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chris |
np |
| 20:10 |
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chris |
pianohackr|work: i run an originmaster and a master |
| 20:10 |
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chris |
rebase into originmaster, merge or cherry-pick across |
| 20:11 |
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pianohackr|work |
right; main headache is resolving updates from head with local customizations |
| 20:11 |
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chris_n2 |
rickw: have you tried 'rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r' |
| 20:13 |
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chris |
pianohackr|work: yep, i try and keep local customisations in their own branches, and then merge them in .. to reduce the risk of conflicts or to at least make them small conflicts |
| 20:13 |
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chris |
ie a branch for each feature |
| 20:13 |
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rickw |
chris_n2: yup, many times |
| 20:14 |
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chris_n2 |
rickw: also 114 appears to be 'Unsupported Use attribute'... perhaps your ccl.properties maybe messed up? |
| 20:14 |
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rickw |
here is the diff between the two separate kohas: |
| 20:14 |
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chris_n2 |
http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agenc[…]fns/bib1diag.html |
| 20:14 |
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rickw |
the firt has a catalogue built in situ in Koha 3 |
| 20:14 |
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pianohackr|work |
chris: Ahh, so master is the union of all of those customizations? |
| 20:14 |
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rickw |
the second (that does not work right) has a catalogue imported from Koha/2.2.9 (using the notes on the wiki for for 22_to_30 migration) |
| 20:15 |
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rickw |
strongly suspect it is the result of the 229 conversion cuasing the troubles |
| 20:15 |
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rickw |
or perhaps differences in the MARCs (the 229 migration MARC is different from the other one) |
| 20:15 |
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pianohackr|work |
rickw: do you have all of your item fields mapped correctly? |
| 20:15 |
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chris_n2 |
rickw: I had some issues with marc records exported from koha 3.0.x and imported back into HEAD... isbn, issn fields were too long |
| 20:15 |
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* chris_n2 |
has to run |
| 20:15 |
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chris_n2 |
bbiab |
| 20:16 |
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chris |
its definitely a conf problem |
| 20:16 |
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rickw |
unforuntaely, someone else is doing the MARC stuff, not me |
| 20:16 |
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rickw |
but I will pass on anthing i learn :) |
| 20:16 |
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rickw |
"ccl.properties" ... will have a look into that |
| 20:16 |
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rickw |
(this zebra stuff is a big black box to me) |
| 20:17 |
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pianohackr|work |
there's also etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs |
| 20:17 |
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chris |
114 tells you its trying to search on a attribute that hasnt been defined |
| 20:18 |
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rickw |
okay ... might be something to do with the refining the serach, i.e. basic search is fine, but when we add more terms to it, ERROR 114 |
| 20:19 |
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rickw |
the refinement to "items available" fails |
| 20:19 |
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rickw |
and refinement to "Brisbane branch only: fails as well |
| 20:20 |
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pianohackr|work |
yes; for some reason, koha/zebra is having trouble getting from to "items available" to correct subfield of 952 |
| 20:23 |
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rickw |
ah ... a known problem? |
| 20:24 |
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pianohackr|work |
it's a conf problem, works here |
| 20:25 |
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pianohackr|work |
basically, you want to make sure that items.onloan is mapped and that record.abs is pointing at the same marc subfield as koha |
| 20:26 |
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rickw |
ok |
| 20:27 |
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rickw |
similar prob with |
| 20:27 |
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rickw |
branch |
| 20:28 |
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pianohackr|work |
yup, so in that case, just rinse and repeat with items.holdingbranch |
| 20:28 |
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rickw |
and how does record.abs map into the MARC? |
| 20:29 |
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pianohackr|work |
It's pretty direct, here's an excerpt: |
| 20:29 |
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pianohackr|work |
melm 947$q onloan:n,onloan:w |
| 20:29 |
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rickw |
okay wil have a play with that |
| 20:29 |
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rickw |
since teh record.abs files on the working and non working instance are the same |
| 20:29 |
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pianohackr|work |
okay |
| 20:29 |
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rickw |
it must be in the MARC mapping in mysql |
| 20:29 |
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pianohackr|work |
yup |
| 20:30 |
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rickw |
thanks! hope will nail this today :) |
| 20:30 |
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rickw |
btw: are you Jesse on the Koha list? |
| 20:30 |
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pianohackr|work |
yes I am :) |
| 20:30 |
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pianohackr|work |
this is my response to your email |
| 20:30 |
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rickw |
thanks for helping out here and on the list ... you solved our indexing prob a while back (Local thingy wasn't mappe in record.abs) |
| 20:31 |
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rickw |
i guess IRC rulz! |
| 20:31 |
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rickw |
i posted to the indexdata list ... it will be intereting to see how much those guys knpow about Koha specifically in the zebra context |
| 20:31 |
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rickw |
i best be off and discuss this with our MARC expert |
| 20:31 |
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rickw |
cheers guys |
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pianohackr|work |
see ya |
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pianohackr|work |
bbl, headed home from work |
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rickw |
hello again |
| 20:54 |
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rickw |
i am chaning things (MARc map) in record.abs |
| 20:54 |
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rickw |
changing |
| 20:55 |
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rickw |
once the hanges are in, do I need to rebuild the zebra index? |
| 20:58 |
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chris_n2 |
rickw: I believe you do |
| 20:59 |
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rickw |
does make sense |
| 20:59 |
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rickw |
strange thing is: the mapping for onloan is correct, but a few others are not |
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rickw |
perhaps ALL the mapping have to be exactl correct before it will work properly (syngery amongst the MARC tags, that sort of thing) |
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pianohacker |
back |
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chris_n2 |
pianohacker: checkout http://i36.tinypic.com/1pe0t5.jpg |
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pianohacker |
photographic evidence, even :) |
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pianohacker |
cool |
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* chris_n2 |
heads off for some BoJangle's chicken |
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brendan |
got my invite for google wave today |
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ricardo |
brendan: That's cool. I received one from a friend some days ago. I think that I won't explore it for a few days, though |
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ricardo |
chris: Still here? |
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ricardo |
BRB |
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ricardo |
(Updating Firefox) |
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