Time Nick Message 23:51 ricardo (Updating Firefox) 23:51 ricardo BRB 23:13 ricardo chris: Still here? 23:05 ricardo brendan: That's cool. I received one from a friend some days ago. I think that I won't explore it for a few days, though 22:51 brendan got my invite for google wave today 22:41 * chris_n2 heads off for some BoJangle's chicken 22:36 pianohacker cool 22:36 pianohacker photographic evidence, even :) 22:35 chris_n2 pianohacker: checkout http://i36.tinypic.com/1pe0t5.jpg 22:28 pianohacker back 21:00 rickw perhaps ALL the mapping have to be exactl correct before it will work properly (syngery amongst the MARC tags, that sort of thing) 20:59 rickw strange thing is: the mapping for onloan is correct, but a few others are not 20:59 rickw does make sense 20:58 chris_n2 rickw: I believe you do 20:55 rickw once the hanges are in, do I need to rebuild the zebra index? 20:54 rickw changing 20:54 rickw i am chaning things (MARc map) in record.abs 20:54 rickw hello again 20:46 pianohackr|work bbl, headed home from work 20:32 pianohackr|work see ya 20:31 rickw cheers guys 20:31 rickw i best be off and discuss this with our MARC expert 20:31 rickw i posted to the indexdata list ... it will be intereting to see how much those guys knpow about Koha specifically in the zebra context 20:31 rickw i guess IRC rulz! 20:30 rickw thanks for helping out here and on the list ... you solved our indexing prob a while back (Local thingy wasn't mappe in record.abs) 20:30 pianohackr|work this is my response to your email 20:30 pianohackr|work yes I am :) 20:30 rickw btw: are you Jesse on the Koha list? 20:30 rickw thanks! hope will nail this today :) 20:29 pianohackr|work yup 20:29 rickw it must be in the MARC mapping in mysql 20:29 pianohackr|work okay 20:29 rickw since teh record.abs files on the working and non working instance are the same 20:29 rickw okay wil have a play with that 20:29 pianohackr|work melm 947$q onloan:n,onloan:w 20:29 pianohackr|work It's pretty direct, here's an excerpt: 20:28 rickw and how does record.abs map into the MARC? 20:28 pianohackr|work yup, so in that case, just rinse and repeat with items.holdingbranch 20:27 rickw branch 20:27 rickw similar prob with 20:26 rickw ok 20:25 pianohackr|work basically, you want to make sure that items.onloan is mapped and that record.abs is pointing at the same marc subfield as koha 20:24 pianohackr|work it's a conf problem, works here 20:23 rickw ah ... a known problem? 20:20 pianohackr|work yes; for some reason, koha/zebra is having trouble getting from to "items available" to correct subfield of 952 20:19 rickw and refinement to "Brisbane branch only: fails as well 20:19 rickw the refinement to "items available" fails 20:18 rickw okay ... might be something to do with the refining the serach, i.e. basic search is fine, but when we add more terms to it, ERROR 114 20:17 chris 114 tells you its trying to search on a attribute that hasnt been defined 20:17 pianohackr|work there's also etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs 20:16 rickw (this zebra stuff is a big black box to me) 20:16 rickw "ccl.properties" ... will have a look into that 20:16 rickw but I will pass on anthing i learn :) 20:16 rickw unforuntaely, someone else is doing the MARC stuff, not me 20:16 chris its definitely a conf problem 20:15 chris_n2 bbiab 20:15 * chris_n2 has to run 20:15 chris_n2 rickw: I had some issues with marc records exported from koha 3.0.x and imported back into HEAD... isbn, issn fields were too long 20:15 pianohackr|work rickw: do you have all of your item fields mapped correctly? 20:15 rickw or perhaps differences in the MARCs (the 229 migration MARC is different from the other one) 20:15 rickw strongly suspect it is the result of the 229 conversion cuasing the troubles 20:14 rickw the second (that does not work right) has a catalogue imported from Koha/2.2.9 (using the notes on the wiki for for 22_to_30 migration) 20:14 pianohackr|work chris: Ahh, so master is the union of all of those customizations? 20:14 rickw the firt has a catalogue built in situ in Koha 3 20:14 chris_n2 http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1diag.html 20:14 rickw here is the diff between the two separate kohas: 20:14 chris_n2 rickw: also 114 appears to be 'Unsupported Use attribute'... perhaps your ccl.properties maybe messed up? 20:13 rickw chris_n2: yup, many times 20:13 chris ie a branch for each feature 20:13 chris pianohackr|work: yep, i try and keep local customisations in their own branches, and then merge them in .. to reduce the risk of conflicts or to at least make them small conflicts 20:11 chris_n2 rickw: have you tried 'rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r' 20:11 pianohackr|work right; main headache is resolving updates from head with local customizations 20:10 chris rebase into originmaster, merge or cherry-pick across 20:10 chris pianohackr|work: i run an originmaster and a master 20:09 chris np 20:09 pianohackr|work Thanks again, chris 20:09 pianohackr|work Not in the mood to deal with the merge conflicts a complete merge from origin would cause, I'll just cherry-pick it 20:08 pianohackr|work Oh-hoh, I see what happened. gmcharlt's b59e0166125efdd381078ccf57ef7fd7b03b1cd4 , which I have not applied to our local copy yet, fixed this problem along with some others 20:08 chris it returns if that condition is met (before ModDateLastSeen) 20:07 chris if ($hbr ne $branch && C4::Context->preference("IndependantBranches")){ 20:07 chris pianohackr|work: it could have something to do with that maybe? 20:07 rickw on anthoer Koha/3.0.1 the original search and refinment to "avilable items" does work fine, so i suspect it is something to do with differences in config between the two kohas 20:07 chris pianohackr|work: ahh i lie, its when independent branches are on that it bails out 20:07 pianohackr|work chris: okay, yes it should. There's something else wrong, thanks for jamming my brain into gear 20:06 rickw when we ask for "items available" we get 0 results (there should be many) and the ERROR 114 occurs 20:06 chris pianohackr|work: looking at AddReturn ModDateLastSeen should get called, it would only not if the item was withdrawn 20:06 rickw the catalogue searhc works on our Koha/3.0.1 instance when we do a simple search, e.g. for "drama" 220 books returned 20:05 rickw we are getting an ERROR 114 from zebra 20:05 * pianohackr|work tries this again 20:05 chris hmm weird pianohackr|work, the item i checked in wasnt checked out 20:05 pianohackr|work maybe 20:04 rickw may I ask a zerbra relateed searching pquestion? 20:04 pianohackr|work chris: this is really confusing. ModDateLastSeen is the only function that would reset itemlost, and it seems like it wouldn't be called if the item wasn't checked out 20:03 pianohackr|work hi rickw 20:03 chris_n2 hi rickw 20:02 rickw good morning ... n e 1 awake! 20:00 chris latest master 20:00 pianohackr|work Blergh. Are you on latest master, and if not, do you have a link to your git repo? 19:59 chris hmm it seems to be working for me 19:55 chris lemme check the code im running 19:54 chris yep that seems to set it back 19:53 chris is what i get on the screen lemme check the db 19:53 chris Item was lost, now found. 19:53 chris Not checked out. 19:52 pianohackr|work A simple ModItem( { itemlost => 0 }, undef, $item->{'itemnumber'} ); above $messages->{'WasLost'} = 1; in AddReturn fixes the problem for me 19:49 chris_n2 a 6.5 hour production 19:49 * chris_n2 contemplates going to see http://playmakersrep.blogspot.com/ 19:49 chris lemme try it 19:49 chris_n2 hehe 19:49 chris :) 19:49 chris a regression from 1999 19:48 chris_n2 a regression probably 19:48 * chris_n2 agrees 19:48 pianohackr|work you would think 19:48 chris i wonder when it got introduced, cos that sounds like something people would have noticed 19:48 pianohackr|work Am I smoking something, is this not a bug, ...? 19:48 pianohackr|work I haven't seen anything that would fix the bug in latest master 19:47 pianohackr|work on my local version, items are not set to itemlost = 0 when returned 19:47 chris ricardo: maybe nz will play portugal :) 19:47 chris_n2 there has been quite a bit of help from some of the folks who maintain Strawberry as well 19:47 pianohackr|work now, I have a circ-related question for you all 19:47 pianohackr|work chris_n2++ 19:47 * chris_n2 now will try to remember how he did it 19:46 pianohackr|work Yay! 19:46 chris_n2 well, it appears that Koha is fully functional now on my MSWin32 XP Pro machine 19:45 ricardo Going to watch the Portugal - Bosnia soccer game now (for the World Cup 2010). Take care! :) 19:44 ricardo http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2009-November/004847.html 19:44 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref 19:44 ricardo [Koha-patches] [PATCH] Bug 3754: Follow-up patch 19:44 ricardo chris: 19:40 ricardo chris: *Nod* acmoore++ 19:40 chris_n2 yeah 19:40 chris_n2 the zebra manual shows the @ in that position, but it does not work here 19:40 chris silent_errors-- 19:39 chris cool 19:39 chris ah ha 19:39 chris_n2 works like a charm now 19:39 chris_n2 chris: found it: <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:@:9998/bibliosocket</listen> should be <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:localhost:9998/bibliosocket</listen> 19:39 chris was a good start along making it a little bit easier, at least you would spot things that blew up fast 19:38 chris he had started work on a smoke test server, which could be used to apply patches and run automated tests 19:37 chris (amongst all the other developers too) 19:37 chris its a shame liblime lost acmoore 19:37 ricardo chris: Sure 19:36 chris if its not submitted, it just doesnt even get seen 19:36 ricardo chris: Right 19:36 chris but at least it will be in the queue to get tested 19:36 chris oh it wont get accepted untested 19:35 ricardo chris: OK. That's the tradeoff - is it better or worse to accept "untested patch"? I guess that depends on the RM. Because you will be the RM, more power to you :) 19:35 chris yep, we'll figure something out 19:34 ricardo And then, you could do what you're saying: commit to newest branch and cherry pick it to oldest 19:34 chris an untested patch is better than no patch in my book, because at least the RM will see it 19:34 ricardo chris: If you get some testers so that people can test patches submitted by people that haven't tested them for the newest branch, that's great 19:34 chris the main solution i think will be the maintainer and manager will have to constantly be making sure bugfixes are applied to both 19:33 chris i thnk that outweighs all pros 19:33 ricardo chris: *nod* Regression 19:33 chris the major con is bugs that are fixed, all come back with 3.2 19:32 ricardo chris: I understand awhat you're saying... I see several pros and cons for the several choices, so I'll leave it up to you (and others) for the best decision if/when this decision happens again for 3.4 19:30 chris that are going to be missed for master .. just dont want to repeat that for 3.4 19:30 chris thats fine for now, like i say whats done is done, there are a bunch of patches that have been only applied for 3.0.x 19:29 ricardo I can only do (partial) tests for 3.0.x 19:29 ricardo chris: I can send the patches for both... but I can NOT test them now. I don't have a setup for "master". And I don't like to submit things that I haven't tested :( 19:29 chris (by both it will be master and 3.2.x) 19:29 chris either ppl send patches for both, or just master :) 19:28 ricardo chris: That's your right :) 19:28 chris yep, be aware that if i am RM for 3.4 i will be stricter about it though 19:27 chris patches should go for master, and be cherry picked to 3.0.x if they are valid bugfixes 19:27 ricardo chris: I understand that, but people test things that are closer to their setups. My installations are 3.0.x so those are the one that I have setups 19:27 chris wrong way round 19:26 ricardo chris: Well... If the RM wants to save time, I guess he could as well cherry-pick the two patches as they are from 3.0.x... If he wants a tidier patch, he may ask for it or do it himself 19:26 chris but what's done is done now 19:26 chris ideally every patch should apply to master, patches only for 3.0.x branch makes life hard 19:25 chris so someone will have to do it for him 19:25 chris and the RM is not going to have time to do that 19:25 ricardo chris: *nod* 19:25 chris otherwise this will just break again for 3.2 19:25 ricardo chris: Fine by me! :) 19:25 ricardo OK... So I'll submit my patch as a follow-up patch for Nahuel's for 3.0.x branch. I'll let the "powers to be" to decide if they apply it to the Master as well or not 19:25 chris we will have to cherry-pick and make the 2 patches into one tidier one for master 19:24 ricardo chris: OK. Got it. 19:24 chris yeah 19:24 ricardo This bug ^^^ ? 19:24 chris but hasnt allowed that as an option 19:24 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref 19:24 ricardo Bug 3754 19:23 chris where someone has the templates for de lying around 19:23 chris different bug 19:23 ricardo chris: "but it will stop it using languages that havent been set in the syspref". Stop "it"... By "it" do you mean "the bug"? 19:23 chris_n2 interesting... ZOOM::Connection returns a connection object without a port or host attribute set 19:22 chris but it will stop it using languages that havent been set in the syspref 19:22 chris i doubt it 19:21 ricardo chris: But maybe Nahuel + My solution works for the case when "http accept language" misses some language that is set in the cookie and translations (like "pt-PT", that doesn't exist in the list of languages in Firefox as that, but only as "pt") 19:20 chris yep, the master implementation of that sub routine seems much cleaner to me ricardo 19:20 ricardo chris: And my patch is based on the version from Nahuel (should be applied *after* applying his patch) 19:19 ricardo http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commitdiff;h=df25509e8c500c0e91b9f2343ebca1c7c98238cf 19:19 pianohackr|work Unintentional POD humor, vol 23: "FIXME: This function reflects how inscrutable fines logic is. Fix both." 19:18 ricardo chris: Yes, but the version in 3.0.x is different (patch from Nahuel): 19:18 chris ricardo: that is what is in master and that seems to work fine 19:17 pastebot "chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "The code in master" (7 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/58 19:17 chris richardo: can you paste the diff of your changes 19:16 chris_n2 I assume Zconn is responsible for the connection? 19:15 chris even if then the search failed with a 109 or something, would still see the connect 19:15 chris because you should get at least that 19:14 chris see if its actually managing to connect to zebra 19:14 chris_n2 ok 19:14 chris you proobably need to do some warns in C4::Context 19:14 chris_n2 <listen id="authorityserver" >tcp:@:9999/authoritysocket</listen> 19:14 chris_n2 <listen id="biblioserver" >tcp:@:9998/bibliosocket</listen> 19:14 chris i bet its not actually connecting 19:14 chris right 19:14 chris_n2 but made the changes in koha-conf.xml 19:13 chris_n2 but I am using tcp for zebra since I'm on win32 19:13 ricardo chris: OK... Because I'm setting lang in the else block, I guess that's OK. Right, you convinced me. Let me do that then. 19:13 chris_n2 checked earlier and it is not 19:13 chris check nozebra isnt on 19:13 chris_n2 koha-conf.xml problem? 19:13 chris koha that is 19:13 chris chris_n2: i bet its not talking to zebra then 19:12 chris_n2 yet, yaz-client works fine on both 19:12 chris then it wont ever complain abou uninitialized variables 19:12 chris_n2 chris: ok, lots of output on a working install during a search; *no* output on the none working install doing a search 19:12 chris more paranoid is to go if ($lang && $lang ne ''){ 19:12 chris well what you have there will cause warns in the error log 19:12 ricardo http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paranoid+programming?jss=0 19:11 ricardo chris: Like I said, I wasn't sure. So, I preferred to apply "paranoid programming" :) 19:11 chris_n2 ok gobs of output now ;-) 19:11 chris no it wouldnt 19:10 chris try -v debug 19:10 ricardo chris_n2: Right... But then the "else" could apply to any of the 2 cases. And I don't want that 19:10 * chris_n2 cannot get any output from cli with those 19:10 chris yep 19:10 chris_n2 -v none,fatal,warn ? 19:10 chris that would stop any warns 19:10 chris_n2 chris: what switches do you start zebra with when troubleshooting? 19:10 chris yes it would the first if would be better as if ($lang && $lang ne ''){ 19:09 ricardo (I didn't know if $lang was UNDEF it it would appear equal or different from "") 19:08 ricardo chris: Right... I though so too, but wasn't sure. 19:08 chris apart from that it looks fine 19:08 chris since you will only get to that point if $lang is set 19:08 chris you dont need the extra if $lang 19:05 ricardo chris: This works for me. Give me your opinion and I'll submit this as a patch if this looks good for you 19:05 pastebot "ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Proposed fix for the "themelanguage" sub in Output.pm" (17 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/57 19:01 chris chris_n2: i normally stop zebra, then run it from the commandline, so i can see whats happening, then hit a search url and see what it says 19:00 chris_n2 any thoughts on why a search produces results in yaz-client, but not in koha staff-client or opac? 18:59 ricardo Now, I just have to test this with other languages and without cookies working 18:59 ricardo Woo-hoo! :) 18:56 ricardo chris: I may have an idea for a fix... Let me try it 18:55 ricardo chris: Yep... It's "accept_language" that's overwriting the value of "pt-PT" that was (correcty) written in the cookie 18:50 ricardo chris: Right 18:50 chris just put a warn in there showing what language it thnks it should be showing 18:48 ricardo chris: OK... So, I'll debug "themelanguage" now 18:47 chris right so the cookie is being set, it just doesnt look like its being read 18:46 ricardo Same results, apparently :( 18:45 ricardo I'll delete them all and try again 18:45 ricardo Path: / 18:45 ricardo myhost.mydomain.info 18:45 ricardo pt-PT 18:45 ricardo KohaOpacLanguage 18:44 chris in prefences 18:44 ricardo chris: Well, the Web Developer extension shows it: 18:44 ricardo chris: Where in Firefox? (if it's hard to explain it, I'll google it) 18:44 chris_n2 tnx chris 18:43 chris_n2 pianohacker|work: that worked; tnx! 18:43 chris ricardo: you can view cookies in firefox, i would look and see if it is being set 18:43 chris chris_n2: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ is back 18:42 pianohackr|work chris_n2: you can set the right database in yaz-client by using base biblios 18:41 ricardo chris: That's where I'm now actually ("setlanguagecookie") 18:41 chris and it is setting the cookie? 18:39 ricardo chris: I'm trying to debug this now 18:39 ricardo chris: That's in Firefox... In IE, the Bug is reversed (I start in "Português" and can't change it to "English") 18:39 ricardo chris: I'm getting a bug (may be due to my setup). I'm getting correctly the "Português" and "English" links in the lower part of the screen, but when I click on "Português", nothing happens: I remain in English 18:38 ricardo chris: Nice 18:37 chris ricardo: huge parties in wellington last night 18:36 chris_n2 wb logbot_backup 09:02 chris 1-0 vs bahrain 09:01 chris 2nd time ever, and 27 years since the last time 09:01 * chris is happy 09:01 chris nz just qualified for the football world cup in 2010 07:40 Ropuch Morning #koha 04:56 chris_n g'night 04:56 chris_n time to find sleep 04:38 chris_n bye 04:34 brendan :P 04:34 brendan catchya tomorrow 04:34 brendan Ok good night -- sleep well all 04:29 chris_n :-) 04:28 chris you guys should sleep :) 04:28 chris ok time to go cook my family some food 04:25 chris_n I thought black bears were bad for going after food 04:25 chris yep 04:25 chris_n aggressive critters! 04:24 chris (thru the skylight) 04:24 chris brendan: they eat rubber seals off the roof of campervans, and get inside and eat all the food 04:24 Wizzyrea_ ohhh true 04:24 chris hehe 04:24 chris_n you know you're up past your bedtime when you see the emails from your cron jobs dropping in your inbox 04:23 Wizzyrea_ haha how funny 04:22 chris_n I wonder if one could write perl code to open an electronic door for food? 04:21 * chris_n finds himself cheering 04:21 brendan wow that's pretty amazing 04:21 chris_n cool 04:19 chris and smart 04:19 chris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRW4ztbY8Ok 04:19 brendan bbiab 04:17 chris they are really big 04:17 chris yep 04:17 brendan I heard the kea are really silly and actually much bigger than one would think 04:17 brendan There are some birds that live hear -- that I've been searching for 15 years for and haven't seen 04:16 brendan yeah I've heard that about kiwi's 04:16 chris i have seen kea in the wild tho 04:16 brendan cool 04:16 chris i never have 04:16 chris unlikely to ever see a kiwi in the wild 04:16 chris you can see both of those in the wellington zoo 04:16 brendan or a kiwi 04:16 chris yep, only in the south island tho (in the wild) 04:15 brendan I want to see some of the crazy rubber eating kea's (is that right chris) 04:15 * chris_n tends to drive on the left side of the road occasionally even here :-) 04:15 chris get off the plane, jetlagged, 13 hour flight, get a car, crash it driving out of the airport 04:15 brendan I'm excited to see the birds of NZ 04:15 chris plus US tourists have a habit of crashing into things :) 04:14 chris_n cheap, quick, and neat 04:14 chris_n buses, trains, subway 04:14 chris_n sounds like spain 04:13 chris buses and the train go everywhere, and parking costs a lot 04:13 chris id thoroughly recommend not hiring a car for the time you are in wellington 04:13 chris (you have to pay for your own gas) 04:12 chris $65 a day 04:12 chris but here they are fine 04:12 chris buses are fine here, i know aht some places in the US buses are scary 04:12 Wizzyrea_ bus++ 04:12 chris $4 on the bus 04:12 chris_n what's a rental car cost? 04:11 chris (no tip and tax on top of that) 04:11 chris nz 04:11 chris 20 min ride = about 22$ 04:11 chris hmmm 04:11 * chris_n thinks a taxi in NZ could be expensive... no? 04:10 chris i should add that 04:10 chris or call them 04:10 chris you either have to get them at a taxi stand 04:10 chris oh.. also you cant hail taxi's 04:10 brendan yeah the taxi thing is interesting 04:09 Wizzyrea_ tip - don't eat yellow snow 04:09 chris the taxi is a good tip, lots of people dont know that its deregulated 04:09 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded. Quote #46 added. 04:09 chris_n @quote add <brendan> tip - don't pet a burning dog 04:09 chris heh 04:08 brendan tip - don't pet a burning dog 04:08 chris_n I think that wait staff is permitted pay less than minimum 04:07 chris http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=kohacon2010wellington#travel_tips 04:07 Wizzyrea_ god, i wish they'd just pay wait staff properly 04:06 chris_n chris: here they are so spoiled that way that some places go ahead and add the tip into your bill for you :-P 04:05 chris_n lol 04:05 brendan heh 04:05 chris :) 04:05 chris i added some tips, like dont tip, for god sakes dont start that trend here 04:05 brendan that's all going to be good information 04:04 chris in one place, to make it easier 04:04 chris im just gonna try and list all the ones i know of 04:04 chris yep 04:04 brendan yeah -- most people should be able to find their own accommodations too. 04:04 chris and its right in the cbd 04:03 chris but that doesnt sound too bad, i think it is less than it cost me for the holiday inn in plano 04:02 chris i plan to give a big range, so that ppl can suit their budget 04:02 chris (you can get cheaper, quite a lot cheaper in the backpackers or yha, and the motels) 04:00 chris that would be more like 70 04:00 chris so assuming it returns closer to normal 03:59 chris and we are at all time high 03:59 brendan that's pretty nice 03:59 chris 84, and 95 in USD (under current exchange rates) 03:58 brendan in NZD 03:58 chris_n nice looking outfit 03:58 chris $114.00 incl GST (single) or $129.00 incl GST (double/ twin) 03:58 chris they offered a nice deal on accom to 03:58 Wizzyrea_ how conveeeenient 03:58 chris so im gonna go look on monday 03:57 chris also that is the same street as my work, just 1 block away 03:57 Wizzyrea_ yes, that would likely be important 03:57 chris without having to use their caterers 03:57 brendan Photo's always look great 03:57 chris they are one of the few that offer just the venue 03:57 Wizzyrea_ ooh fancy 03:56 chris http://www.mercure.com/gb/hotel-5985-mercure-wellington-willis-street/meeting.shtml 03:55 Wizzyrea_ although I have read that sometimes the mexican stuff is toxic :( 03:55 chris_n we have friends bring us a quart every so often from MX 03:55 brendan sweet - let's see 03:55 chris_n Wizzyrea: mexican vanilla ++ 03:53 chris ok, this is the front runner for the conference 03:53 * chris_n is going to try Wizzyrea's pesto this weekend 03:52 Wizzyrea_ http://www.grouprecipes.com/5799/green-tea-soy-ice-cream.html another one of ours 03:52 Wizzyrea_ yikes! 03:52 * chris_n checks to see if his life jacket and raft are still nearby 03:51 chris_n thursday probably nearly the same 03:51 Wizzyrea_ jebus 03:51 chris_n wednesday we had 6 inches (15cm) of rain 03:51 Wizzyrea_ chris_n is there lots of flooding or are you just getting wind and rain 03:50 Wizzyrea_ hehe 03:50 chris rain would be ideal 03:50 chris_n heh 03:50 chris_n nasty here too; we're just escaping the remnants of ida 03:50 chris so the bahrain soccer players get too cold 03:50 chris it needs to get colder here 03:50 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (4:00 PM NZDT on November 14, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 03:50 chris @wunder wellington, nz 03:50 chris_n gotcha both beat ;-) 03:49 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 13.0�C (10:39 PM EST on November 13, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising). 03:49 chris_n @wunder 28334 03:49 chris heh 03:48 brendan brrrrr.... it feels colder than that here 03:47 munin Wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 15.6�C (9:46 PM CST on November 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002.6 hPa (Rising). 03:47 Wizzyrea_ @wunder 66047 03:47 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.4�C (7:45 PM PST on November 13, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 am PST Saturday... 03:47 brendan @wunder 93117 03:46 brendan howdy Wizzyrea_ 03:45 Wizzyrea_ welcome back brendan 03:42 Wizzyrea_ http://www.grouprecipes.com/3724/easy-pesto-cauliflower.html 03:40 chris_n man, now I'm hungry and nowhere near the fridge... :-( 03:39 Wizzyrea_ we used to make the most awesome pesto mashed cauliflower 03:39 chris_n come to think of it... I like most anything. 03:39 chris_n I like most anything with cauliflower in it 03:26 Wizzyrea_ I've had cauliflower tempura before, yum 03:25 chris sounds good 03:25 chris heh 03:23 chris_n make up your favorite shrimp batter, cut up the cauliflower, dip, drop in the deep fat fryer, cook until golden brown, add salt (to help taste and blood pressure), enjoy 03:22 chris_n ever tried fried cauliflower? 03:22 chris hehe 03:21 chris_n yeah, not your typical "Wal-Mart, etc" sizes 03:21 Wizzyrea_ holy moly 03:20 chris_n 25 to 30cm across 03:20 chris_n monster sizes this year 03:19 * chris_n is just finishing up harvesting broccoli and cauliflower 03:19 chris pretty much done for the day 03:19 chris_n hi chris, how's the garden doing there? 03:18 chris heya chris_n 03:18 chris_n g'evening 03:04 Wizzyrea_ eh, it's ok. 03:04 chris bummer 03:03 Wizzyrea_ today has been overall a poor day experience 03:03 chris ahh 03:03 Wizzyrea_ ever 03:02 Wizzyrea_ heather doesn't drink 03:02 Wizzyrea_ heh yea 03:02 chris looked like fun 03:02 Wizzyrea_ no, I wish I had though 03:02 chris you didnt go out drinking with sharon and heather? 02:59 Wizzyrea_ haha. I like to garden, but we rent so there's not much point 02:57 chris well i detest gardening, but apart from that, it's good :) 02:57 Wizzyrea_ :) sounds like a lovely saturday 02:56 chris yep, now im just waiting for kickoff at in 3.5 hours to see if we can qualify for the football world cup 02:55 Wizzyrea_ sounds like a productive day 02:53 chris ive finished gardening and was poking at solr 02:53 chris not a lot 02:50 Wizzyrea_ what excitement is going on here this evening 02:49 Wizzyrea_ hello :) 02:49 chris hey netbook wizzy 02:48 chris heh 02:44 wizzyrea_mobile bah, going to get my netbook brb 02:42 wizzyrea_mobile Ought to set up my irc bouncer I guess so it doesn't kick me out every time I quit the app 02:41 wizzyrea_mobile How is everybody? 02:40 wizzyrea_mobile Hi, actually no trouble just dipping annoyingly in and out, is how it works on the phone 02:11 wizzyrea_mobile Hey 01:23 brendan later all