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00:20 |
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ricardo |
Going to bed. Take care! |
00:20 |
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00:31 |
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pianohacker |
chris: one of these days (after sysprefs editor, powerline, etc.; probably not till next summer), I'd like to spend some time resolving the memory leak problems in koha so we can have daemons |
00:31 |
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pianohacker |
chris: if you have any mentoring or advice on the subject, it'd be greatly appreciated |
00:31 |
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chris |
cool,id be keen to help out with that |
00:32 |
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pianohacker |
awesome |
00:44 |
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00:49 |
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pianohacker |
good night |
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01:04 |
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01:51 |
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01:55 |
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chris_n2 |
hehe.... "The ubiquitous Asian woman who appears on every page and on the cover sheet, and always next to Abram’s name, making it seem like maybe that’s what he looks like." |
02:11 |
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chris_n2 |
chris++ # "...three guys with a pizza watching some debugging stack..." |
02:12 |
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chris |
heh |
02:13 |
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chris |
one of my fave comments to date is |
02:13 |
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chris |
http://www.librarian.net/stax/[…]1/#comment-128700 |
02:19 |
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chris_n2 |
opps... sorry chris I thought that quote was your's (sure sounds like it ;-) |
02:21 |
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chris |
:) |
02:23 |
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chris |
ive decided not to comment on his blog anymore, since he feels the need to post every comment with his rebuttal attached |
02:23 |
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chris |
all it does is give him more platform to spin |
02:24 |
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chris_n2 |
yeah, he does seem to smell like a rose in spite of it all |
02:24 |
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chris |
one thing i notice, is that with all these kinds of attack pieces, as soon as they called on it, they start trying to play the martyr card |
02:25 |
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chris |
yeah thats entirely his job, and why i wish librarians would stop getting him to keynote |
02:25 |
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chris |
he is a spin dr, and i wouldnt believe him if he told me the sky is blue, without going to check for myself first |
02:25 |
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chris_n2 |
heh |
02:26 |
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* chris_n2 |
steps outside for a minute... :-) |
02:28 |
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chris |
so my advice to anyone, is don't play in his sandpit where he controls the game, rebut him on a blog where you have some control |
02:29 |
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chris_n2 |
indeed, one has to be careful not to spit into the wind |
02:32 |
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chris_n2 |
and the prevailing wind seems to be coming from the direction of the lighthouse atm |
02:32 |
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chris |
heh |
02:32 |
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chris |
tep |
02:32 |
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chris |
yep even |
02:44 |
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chris |
just tweeted that suggestion |
02:45 |
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02:45 |
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ian |
Hey Chis:::hey - if something is done where the branch is insecure - where do the stats go? |
02:46 |
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chris |
branch is insecure? |
02:46 |
|
ian |
set branch |
02:47 |
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ian |
actually that's a point |
02:47 |
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ian |
you can't set it to insecure |
02:47 |
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chris |
yeah it shouldnt be set to that |
02:47 |
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ian |
but when someone "fools" with firefox versions etc branch comes up initially as insecure |
02:48 |
|
ian |
until you reset it |
02:48 |
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chris |
in that case they wotn be logged against any branch |
02:49 |
|
ian |
logged at all ya reckon? |
02:50 |
|
ian |
will try a flat count vs group by branch |
02:50 |
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chris |
yeah good idea |
02:52 |
|
ian |
same fig... |
03:00 |
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ian |
looks like they aren't logged...possible? |
03:01 |
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chris |
could be, it might be that logging requires a branch |
03:01 |
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ian |
any other place where i can check? |
03:02 |
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chris |
select count(*) from statistics where branch is NULL; |
03:03 |
|
ian |
yipes... |
03:03 |
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ian |
lots |
03:03 |
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chris |
yeah most of them will be reserves from the opac |
03:03 |
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chris |
but i suspect in there are where the missing ones are, if they are anywhere |
03:04 |
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ian |
roger |
03:04 |
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ian |
but opac reserves are in there? |
03:05 |
|
ian |
and opac renewals? |
03:05 |
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ian |
:-0 |
03:05 |
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chris |
yes |
03:05 |
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chris |
since they dont actually have a branch |
03:11 |
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ian |
for the stats - can i "assume" that the null stuff in the stats table (with type and date parameters set) ARE opac happenings |
03:11 |
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ian |
? |
03:11 |
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chris |
they might be transactions with no branch set too |
03:12 |
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chris |
most of them will be opac happenings though |
03:13 |
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ian |
i mean narrowing it down to say renewals in OCT with branch null |
03:15 |
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chris |
yep most of them will be opac |
03:15 |
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chris |
but some might be staff with no branch set doing renewals too |
03:16 |
|
ian |
right - just looking now... |
03:22 |
|
ian |
select count(*) from statistics where type = 'renew' and datetime >= '2009-10-01' and datetime < '2009-11-01' and branch is NULL; |
03:22 |
|
ian |
this gives me nuttin' |
03:22 |
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ian |
0 |
03:23 |
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03:23 |
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ian |
don't know where my opac renewals are... |
03:23 |
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Amit |
hi chris, brendan |
03:23 |
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Amit |
good morning #koha |
03:24 |
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brendan |
evening Amit |
03:24 |
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Amit |
heya richard |
03:24 |
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ian |
this 'insecure' is making me just that... |
03:25 |
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chris |
it may be now that they are actually logged against a branch, i know that was a bug that was logged, so it might be fixed now, and they are logged against the branch they were issued from |
03:26 |
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ian |
that's what i kinda assumed |
03:31 |
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ian |
sorry, don't wanna bug - but the branchcode in reserves is where they want to pick-up from?????? |
03:31 |
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ian |
is that rigt....? |
03:31 |
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ian |
not getting results where branchcode is NULL; |
03:39 |
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chris |
yeah there should never be a null branchcode in reserves |
03:39 |
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chris |
in the reserves table that is |
03:40 |
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chris |
no idea without checking the code what branch it puts in statistics |
03:46 |
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ian |
ok, I've calmed down now - thought i might have stumbled onto a treasure trove of previously unfound stats... |
03:46 |
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ian |
had a touch of gold fever... |
04:08 |
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04:11 |
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Amit_G |
@wunder Bangalore |
04:11 |
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munin |
Amit_G: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 24.0�C (8:30 PM IST on November 01, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. |
04:12 |
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Amit_G |
@wunder New Delhi |
04:12 |
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munin |
Amit_G: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 21.0�C (9:00 AM IST on November 02, 2009). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
04:12 |
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Amit_G |
@wunder Dehradun |
04:12 |
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munin |
Amit_G: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 16.0�C (8:30 AM IST on November 02, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa. |
04:13 |
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Amit_G |
@wunder Bhopal |
04:13 |
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munin |
Amit_G: The current temperature in Bhopal / Bairagarh, India is 23.0�C (8:30 AM IST on November 02, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa. |
04:14 |
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Amit_G |
@wunder Chandigarh |
04:14 |
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munin |
Amit_G: Error: No such location could be found. |
04:15 |
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Susan-Dev |
good morning |
04:15 |
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Susan-Dev |
Someone a awake? Need help with Koha - Authorities. |
04:17 |
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04:22 |
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04:24 |
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Susan-Dev |
I can explain the issue I guess for whoever is out there :). I create an authority - such as Corporate Name, or Personal name, and I only fill Tab 1, Tag @ [name] |
04:24 |
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Susan-Dev |
I do rebuild zebra - a, i see it exported the new authority that I added |
04:24 |
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chris |
its those permission errors |
04:24 |
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chris |
[warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/authorities/norm..LCK [Permission denied] 14:04:21-15/11 zebrasrv(108) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/var/lock/koha/zebradb/authorities/shadow..LCK [Permission denie |
04:25 |
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chris |
it cant access the database because it doesnt have permissions too |
04:25 |
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Susan-Dev |
I fixed those permissions Chris |
04:25 |
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04:25 |
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Susan-Dev |
Now they don't show up, but still nothing is returned to me by searching |
04:25 |
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chris |
what error are you getting now? |
04:25 |
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chris |
still an ERROR 109 ? |
04:25 |
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Susan-Dev |
and lookinga t the list, some say change MainDHeading to "Haeding" but I already have that fixed in my version of Koha |
04:26 |
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Susan-Dev |
Yes, but kindly give me a minute or 2 to load it up aagain |
04:26 |
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Susan-Dev |
and post the error message |
04:26 |
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chris |
k |
04:26 |
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chris |
you can use http://paste.workbuffer.org |
04:28 |
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Susan-Dev |
ok let me try |
04:30 |
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pastebot |
"Susan-Dev" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Zebra rebuilding" (84 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/31 |
04:30 |
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Susan-Dev |
Please Help: Authority Search - Not returning Result. Zebra Index Picks up 4 Authority Records |
04:30 |
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Susan-Dev |
Kindly note, this is my rebuild zebra with -a -b -r options |
04:31 |
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Susan-Dev |
Now I will add a new authority to see if I get any errors. I am running this on my test machine "fresh", since I think I might have ruined my dev |
04:35 |
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pastebot |
"Susan-Dev" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "marc record of new authority" (19 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/32 |
04:36 |
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* chris |
has to head home very shortly |
04:36 |
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chris |
but i will be back after i have fed my sons and put them to bed :) |
04:36 |
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Susan-Dev |
ok Chris, but pleaseee come back |
04:36 |
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Susan-Dev |
:) |
04:36 |
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Susan-Dev |
I will stay online till I get this issue fixed |
04:38 |
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pastebot |
"Susan-Dev" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Koha zebraqueue output log file after searching for "Chris"" (10 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/33 |
04:39 |
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04:54 |
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Susan-Dev |
While exporting the authorities, there is an issue that shows in the log file of zebra_rebuild |
04:55 |
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Susan-Dev |
it says "No such record type: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml |
04:55 |
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Susan-Dev |
but this file exists.... |
04:55 |
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Susan-Dev |
and I just checked on its permissions, its full 777 owned by Koha user |
05:26 |
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Susan-Dev |
when is chris coming back............? :) |
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06:19 |
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fredericd |
hi |
06:25 |
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Amit_G |
hi fredericd |
06:28 |
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fredericd |
Amit_G: hi |
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06:48 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Hi did Chris come back? |
06:48 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
My irc chat froze and I don't know what hapepnd |
06:48 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
?? |
06:48 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Anyone :) |
06:50 |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
06:55 |
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chris |
ok, kids in bed |
06:55 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
thank god |
06:55 |
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06:55 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
:) |
06:55 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
So how do I start to get you to help me with this? |
06:56 |
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chris |
ok, its not the zebraqueue log we want |
06:56 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Your the brain |
06:56 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
what log do we want? |
06:57 |
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chris |
its koha-zebradaemon one |
06:57 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok let me see |
06:57 |
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06:58 |
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|Lupin| |
good day all |
06:58 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
output or error file Chris?? |
06:58 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
My output one is empty.... |
06:58 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
completly empty |
06:58 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Because I erased it an hour ago, but I still did alot of work after that {adding new authority/searching} |
06:59 |
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06:59 |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
07:00 |
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chris |
well that should get something in it everytime you search |
07:00 |
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chris |
are you using debian? |
07:00 |
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chris |
if so |
07:00 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
OpenSUSe |
07:00 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
sorry Ubuntu |
07:01 |
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fredericd |
|Lupin|: hello! |
07:01 |
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chris |
ok, stop your zebraserver |
07:01 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
this is stupid..but how? |
07:01 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
:) |
07:02 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
should I just do kill all processes that grep with zebrasrv?? |
07:03 |
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Amit_G |
hi lupin, kf |
07:03 |
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chris |
no dont do that, the daemon will just restart it |
07:03 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
so how should I shut it? |
07:03 |
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chris |
there should be a script in /etc/init.d/ |
07:04 |
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kf |
hi Amit |
07:04 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I know you must be busy chris, but I really hope you could help. |
07:04 |
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chris |
that you would have put there when you installed koha |
07:04 |
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chris |
find what that is called |
07:04 |
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|Lupin| |
guten tag kf :) |
07:04 |
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chris |
then sudo /etc/init.d/that_script stop |
07:04 |
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07:04 |
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Ropuch |
Guten Tag, kf [;\ |
07:05 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
There is only three with zebra |
07:05 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
koha-zebra-daemon |
07:05 |
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|Lupin| |
anyone know if there is a way to control the way apache errors are logged, please ? |
07:05 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
koha-zebra-deamon --< i guess I did two daemons hehe with mispelled names |
07:05 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and koha-zebraqueue-daemon |
07:05 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
which one should I go stop?? |
07:05 |
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|Lupin| |
ErorLog specifies only the file, I'm looking for something to control the formatting of errors. LogFormat is not taken into account when logging erors... |
07:06 |
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chris |
the first one, and you shouldnt be using the second one, you should have a cronjob that calls rebuild_zebra.pl instead of the zebraqueue one |
07:06 |
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kf |
Guten Tag, Ropuch. how is your German course going? |
07:06 |
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|Lupin| |
(the problem I'd like to address is that the date is logged twice in error logs and I don't know why...) |
07:06 |
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chris |
i think frederic just said that in an email too :) |
07:07 |
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Ropuch |
kf: I'm still at german-is-quite-easy point [; |
07:07 |
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kf |
Ropuch: hope you can stay there :) |
07:07 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
so I should look at the crontab file?? |
07:07 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
My crontab is running as ROOT |
07:07 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
its a root crontab |
07:08 |
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Ropuch |
kf: me too :) |
07:08 |
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chris |
not yet, just stop that koha-zebra-daemon one |
07:08 |
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fredericd |
chris: INSTALL.debian-lenny, line 200: it's suggested to use zebraqueue_daemon... |
07:08 |
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chris |
yeah, that needs to be fixed |
07:08 |
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chris |
but not now, first lets get susan able to search authorities |
07:09 |
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chris |
so stop, and verify zebrasrv isnt running |
07:09 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
i forgot how to edit my root cron |
07:09 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I tried crontabl -e -u root |
07:09 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but that does not work.. |
07:09 |
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chris |
leave the cron alone for now |
07:09 |
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chris |
first we need to stop zebra |
07:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
so to stop zebra I have to go koha-zebra-daemon stop? |
07:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
correct?? |
07:10 |
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chris |
sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon stop |
07:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok I stopped it |
07:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and to check that it is stopped, do I do ps -ef | grep zebra |
07:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
?? |
07:10 |
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kf |
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ now Drupal - nice |
07:10 |
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chris |
yes |
07:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Looking at my processes. I see daemon --name=koha-zebraueue4-ctl-koha running?? |
07:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and perl -I /usr/share/koha/bin/zebraqueeu_daemon.pl also running |
07:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but thats it.. |
07:11 |
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chris |
yeah ignore those for now |
07:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok |
07:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
check |
07:12 |
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chris |
ok, look at that file, and on line to it says USER=something |
07:12 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
what file sorry?? |
07:12 |
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chris |
what is something? (probably koha, but we need to check) |
07:12 |
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chris |
/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
07:12 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok let me check for you |
07:12 |
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chris |
line two that should be |
07:13 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
koha |
07:13 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
USER=koha |
07:13 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Group=koha |
07:13 |
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chris |
cool |
07:13 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
by the way, my biblios work A+++, only authorities don't pick up |
07:13 |
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chris |
ok, now we are going to start zebrasrv by hand |
07:13 |
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chris |
so first |
07:13 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok |
07:13 |
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chris |
sudo su - koha |
07:13 |
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chris |
(changes us to the koha user) |
07:14 |
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chris |
then |
07:14 |
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chris |
zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
07:14 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
wait wait |
07:14 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I tried sudo su - koha |
07:14 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but its weird..it doesnt seem to switch me to user koha |
07:14 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I only get $ |
07:14 |
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chris |
type whoami |
07:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
it says I am koha |
07:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
hehe |
07:15 |
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chris |
then you are :) |
07:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Yes I am |
07:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok so now I go |
07:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-confxml |
07:15 |
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chris |
yep |
07:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
it says |
07:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
starting server PID 20923 |
07:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
everything looks good from start |
07:16 |
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chris |
cool, now try an authorities search |
07:16 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
do I do rebuild zebra first??? |
07:16 |
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chris |
and you should see stuff happen in zebra |
07:16 |
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chris |
no, not yet |
07:16 |
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chris |
lets just try a search and see what the error is first |
07:16 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok then..so whatever it exported before, I should test it on that..I will do that now |
07:17 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok I am in now..I did a search |
07:17 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
do you want me to copy/paste for you?? |
07:17 |
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chris |
yes please |
07:17 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok one minute |
07:19 |
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pastebot |
"Susan-Dev2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Search authorities ERROR 109 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @or @attr "1=Heading" @attr 7=1 0 @and @attr" (35 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/34 |
07:19 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
this is the contents of what showed up |
07:19 |
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chris |
yep, ERROR 109 still |
07:19 |
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chris |
thats the salient bit |
07:19 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
:( :( |
07:20 |
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chris |
so all the advice about Heading etc wont make any difference |
07:20 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
No I did that |
07:20 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
It is not "Main Heading", its "heading" |
07:20 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
in my current version of Koha which is 3.00.00 |
07:20 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I think? |
07:21 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
any other advice? Like connecting to the authoritysocket to see if it connects even?? |
07:21 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
or something like that...sighs |
07:21 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I don't even know how to go about anything now..I did my research..alot |
07:22 |
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chris |
that means database unavailable |
07:22 |
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chris |
so its not that its searching the wrong thing, but that there is no authorities database |
07:22 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Right...but why it is not unavailable? Is it username/password issue, is it permissions issue? I have no idea |
07:22 |
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chris |
no, it doesnt exist |
07:23 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
why is that?? I installed Koha correctly with no issues |
07:23 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
HOw do I create it?? |
07:23 |
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chris |
well you had permissions issues, so it probably wasnt initialised correctly |
07:23 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
by the way, i don't know if this si helpful or not..but during the authority section of the rebuild_zebra...I got a message saying no record type found: dom./etc/stuf stuf stuf |
07:23 |
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chris |
2 seconds ill find out |
07:24 |
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chris |
yes, that will probably have meant it didnt build the indexes hence the ERROR 109 |
07:24 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but that .xml file exists |
07:24 |
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chris |
can you run |
07:24 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I went to it and I found it |
07:24 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and I checked its permissions its 777 and owned by khoa |
07:24 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
koha |
07:25 |
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chris |
rebuild_zebra.pl -a -v |
07:25 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok let me try |
07:25 |
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chris |
and paste the whole of the output |
07:26 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
It does not like -v |
07:26 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
it says not found in list of commands or something like that |
07:28 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I can do it with only -a or -b..or other things..but -v is not there |
07:28 |
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chris |
ah, it is in newer versions, that is annoying |
07:28 |
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chris |
ok try it with just -b |
07:29 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
-b is for biblios? ok |
07:29 |
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chris |
sorry -a |
07:29 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok chris |
07:29 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I will copy/paste it now |
07:30 |
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pastebot |
"Susan-Dev2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "No such record type: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml" (45 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/35 |
07:30 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
done |
07:30 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Hope this can give you a clue |
07:31 |
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chris |
11:27:12-02/11 zebraidx(10017) [log] Records: 0 i/u/d 0/0/0 |
07:32 |
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chris |
yes, it didnt insert any records at all |
07:32 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
any ideas why?? |
07:32 |
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chris |
that is why you are getting 109, because there are no records |
07:32 |
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chris |
no |
07:32 |
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chris |
not off the top of my head |
07:32 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
oh.. |
07:33 |
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chris |
but if you paste that whole bit, plus the zebra log |
07:33 |
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chris |
then hopefully one of the people who knows about authorities, like HDL will be able to help |
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chris |
(paste into an email) |
07:33 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok |
07:37 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I did chris.. |
07:37 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I don't know what else to do..this issue has been going on for 3 days now |
07:37 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
non stop working on it..to no avail |
07:40 |
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chris |
yep, it always helps to give more information than less ... i think now there should be enough for some of the people who use authorities to spot the problem |
07:41 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok chris. But I have another question. We need authorities right? When when create a new marc record, we have to create authors before hand?? |
07:41 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
It does not allow us to enter details..we have to choose from pop up window |
07:41 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
so they are important?? |
07:42 |
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fredericd |
Susan-Dev2: You can ignore completely authorities if you don't need them. |
07:42 |
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chris |
librarians think so :) |
07:42 |
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chris |
but yeah you can turn that off in the marc frameworks, so you can just enter authors straight away |
07:43 |
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chris |
its not a koha requirement to use authorities but your librarians might want them |
07:45 |
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fredericd |
Susan-Dev2: You can try to switch your zebra authorities DB from DOM to GRS1 |
07:46 |
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fredericd |
In you koha-conf.xml file, locate a line containing zebra-authorities-dom.cfg |
07:46 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
let me see |
07:46 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
hi fredericd first |
07:46 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and now let me see |
07:46 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
:) |
07:46 |
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fredericd |
Suppress -dom to get zebra-authorities.cfg |
07:46 |
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fredericd |
then rebuild_zebra and see what happens |
07:47 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
um where do I go to edit this dom feature?? |
07:47 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
in koha-conf.xml?? |
07:47 |
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fredericd |
yes |
07:48 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok I see zebra-authorities-dom.cfg |
07:48 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
what do I change it to?? |
07:49 |
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fredericd |
remove '-dom' (in the line <config>...) |
07:50 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok let me do that |
07:50 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
done now? Should I just do rebuild_zebra -a? |
07:50 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
without restarting the zebra server? |
07:51 |
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fredericd |
not required, just rebuilt indexes |
07:51 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
it gave me a dfiferent error now |
07:51 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
it says Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1, Local-Number) |
07:51 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Bad Match criteria |
07:51 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and also 0 records are entered into DB |
07:52 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I will copy/paste it |
07:52 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
give mea minute please |
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fredericd |
There is really something strange in your installation... |
07:53 |
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pastebot |
"Susan-Dev2" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-Number)" (49 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/36 |
07:54 |
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fredericd |
Local-Number is defined in marc21/authorities/record.abs |
07:54 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I followed the documents online and I never had any issues during installation..maybe only permissions when I tried to do biblio serach before |
07:54 |
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fredericd |
which document and what Koha version? |
07:54 |
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fredericd |
Are you in MARC21? |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I dont know |
07:54 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
how can I tell?? |
07:55 |
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fredericd |
In Koha Administration, system preference 'marcflavour' |
07:56 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
MARC21 |
07:56 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Yes |
07:57 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
do you want to see what my record.abs |
07:57 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
has?? |
07:58 |
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fredericd |
In record.abs, you should have a line: |
07:58 |
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fredericd |
melm 001 Local-Number |
07:58 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Yes |
07:58 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Yes I have that |
07:58 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
sighs...i worry that I may never able able to solve this.....:( |
07:58 |
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fredericd |
In order for zebra to identify authoriy records, you need to have 001 tag with koha authority uniq ID |
07:58 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
* think positive thoughts* |
07:59 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
it says |
07:59 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
all any |
07:59 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
melm 001 Local-Number |
07:59 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
melm 942$a authtype |
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fredericd |
it's ok |
08:00 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and when I create an authority..I go to tab 1..and fill in ONLY tag @a with information |
08:00 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
only tag a) |
08:00 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
then save..then search |
08:00 |
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fredericd |
Go in Administration > Authority types |
08:00 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but I get nothing... |
08:00 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
is there any other data that I have to fill in?? OK I will go there now |
08:01 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok I am in |
08:01 |
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fredericd |
click on MARC structure |
08:01 |
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fredericd |
link |
08:01 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
of which one?? there are many?? |
08:01 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
the default? personal name [which I use} |
08:02 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
or which ones? |
08:02 |
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fredericd |
so personal name |
08:02 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok |
08:02 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
in |
08:02 |
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fredericd |
On 001 tag, click subfields |
08:03 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok |
08:03 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
i only se one |
08:03 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
@ |
08:03 |
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fredericd |
You MUST see auth_header.authid in Constraints |
08:03 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
auth_header.authid |
08:03 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
is there |
08:04 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Tab :0, |Koha field: auth_header.authid, Not repeatable, Not Mandatory |
08:05 |
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fredericd |
Do you have access to your MySQL DB? |
08:05 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
yes I do |
08:05 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
before anything, do I leave zebra-authorities.cfg in the config..or do i put back -dom?? |
08:06 |
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fredericd |
leave it as it is, you get a better error message. but at the end, you will have to switch back in dom mode |
08:07 |
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fredericd |
In MySQL: |
08:07 |
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fredericd |
SELECT * FROM auth_header\G |
08:07 |
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fredericd |
you will see all your authorities |
08:08 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok let me try |
08:08 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok I see some data |
08:08 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
should I copy/paste for you?? |
08:09 |
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fredericd |
You have a authid for each record. |
08:09 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
authid the column in mysql? Yes 1, 2, 3 |
08:09 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
with authtypecode PERSO_NAME |
08:09 |
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fredericd |
You must have it also in marcxml field, in <controlfield tag="001"> |
08:09 |
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fredericd |
001 tag MUST contain authid |
08:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
my marcxml colum in mysqldatabase is just TEXT |
08:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
There is no xml tags in here |
08:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
so I don't know how to find it... |
08:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but looking at the patterns, I see 1, 2, 3 |
08:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but of course not in XML tags |
08:10 |
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fredericd |
You have a field named 'marcxml', isn't it? |
08:10 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
yes |
08:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but not xml text inside |
08:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
just normal text |
08:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
doyou know what I mean? |
08:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Nothing <tag></tag>' |
08:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
just normal text |
08:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I will copy paste it for you |
08:11 |
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fredericd |
What MySQL client do you use? |
08:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
...umm I am using webmin to view my database entries |
08:11 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
so maye it does not like to show me xml tags |
08:12 |
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fredericd |
that's it |
08:12 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
whats it? |
08:12 |
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fredericd |
xml tags are removed by your MySQL client... |
08:12 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
...ummm?? but Biblios dont have marcxml also?? |
08:12 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
because biblios work.. |
08:13 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but I have mysql installed in ubuntu |
08:13 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
this webmin is just "Viewing" mode |
08:13 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
not changing anything |
08:13 |
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fredericd |
!!! |
08:13 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
am i wrong? *sighs.. |
08:14 |
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fredericd |
If you can see xml tags for biblio record, you should see them also for authoriy records |
08:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
where do I go to see the xml tags for biblios? What table |
08:15 |
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fredericd |
biblioitems |
08:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
crap you are so right |
08:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I see XML in biblioITEMS |
08:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but no xml in auth_types |
08:15 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
so how do I fix this now?? |
08:16 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
sorry auth_header |
08:17 |
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fredericd |
very strange |
08:17 |
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fredericd |
you authority are not properly recorded |
08:18 |
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fredericd |
during installation, have you runned sax_parser_print.pl script? |
08:19 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I don't remember |
08:19 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
so what should I do now? |
08:20 |
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fredericd |
You may have something wrong in XML SAX parser used by Koha |
08:20 |
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fredericd |
find sax_parser_print.pl script and run it. Tell me what you get |
08:20 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok let me try |
08:20 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
thanks for your patience fredericd |
08:21 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I there is one under /usr/share/koha/bin/sax_parser_print.pl |
08:22 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
do i run it like perl -I /usr/share/koha/bin/sax_parser_print.p. |
08:22 |
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fredericd |
-I is not required |
08:23 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
ok I get |
08:23 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x873c788) |
08:24 |
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fredericd |
it's correct :-( |
08:24 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
aye... |
08:24 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I am dying here :( |
08:25 |
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fredericd |
Yes, that's your only way out... |
08:25 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
hehe |
08:25 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Do you know when hdl might come online??? |
08:26 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I doand where does he live, I think we have a time diference |
08:26 |
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fredericd |
Could you try to see your first authority in your browser by appending that to your koha server: |
08:26 |
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fredericd |
/cgi-bin/koha/authorities/detail.pl?authid=1 |
08:27 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
oh..I can do that? Let me try |
08:27 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
I get data |
08:28 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but I also used to get it before..because it shows it to me after I create a new authority |
08:28 |
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fredericd |
What you you have in 001? |
08:28 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
tag @ 1 |
08:29 |
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fredericd |
which is correct |
08:29 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and 001 - CONTROL NUMBER |
08:29 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
there is only the issue if it NOT being stored in the zebradb |
08:29 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
why? I don't know |
08:29 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
why why!! sighs |
08:29 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
Koha creates the authority fine. But the indexing is from zebra, thats how koha does its search |
08:30 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and Chris saysid that my database for Authority is not making indexes |
08:30 |
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chris |
its not creating it fine, if it is not xml |
08:30 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
but I am killing myself here, why does biblio work and not authority........... |
08:30 |
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chris |
thats why it cant index it |
08:30 |
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chris |
because biblio has xml |
08:30 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
and who is responsible for making it xml?? |
08:30 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
any speific file? So I can look at the code |
08:30 |
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fredericd |
chris: But Susan-Dev2 can see authority in detail.pl... |
08:31 |
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chris |
yes, but that might be displaying it from the sql |
08:31 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
yes..most likley |
08:31 |
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chris |
not the marcxml |
08:32 |
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chris |
we need someone who uses authorities to tell us what is in their table |
08:32 |
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fredericd |
or from marc field? |
08:32 |
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fredericd |
usually, there is something in marcxml field |
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chris |
Susan-Dev2: can you run rebuild_zebra.pl -a -k |
08:33 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
let me try that |
08:33 |
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chris |
that will not delete the files after |
08:33 |
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chris |
then you can cut and paste what the file looks like |
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Susan-Dev2 |
please fred don't leave...stay with the conversation with chris |
08:34 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
two heads better than 1 |
08:34 |
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Susan-Dev2 |
do you want me to look at the weird file at /tmp/UzzPEMDpwy?? |
08:34 |
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chris |
yes |
08:35 |
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chris |
that is actually a directory, you need to find the in there |
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Susan-Dev2 |
.... |
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Koha-Susan |
sorry |
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Koha-Susan |
I am back |
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Koha-Susan |
give mea minute please and let me see how to go into this directory |
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Koha-Susan |
I am in |
08:37 |
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Koha-Susan |
should I go into exported_records |
08:37 |
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chris |
yes |
08:38 |
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Koha-Susan |
I see the same data that was in the marcxml |
08:38 |
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Koha-Susan |
without the XML |
08:38 |
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Koha-Susan |
so normal text data |
08:38 |
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Koha-Susan |
with 3 records |
08:38 |
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Koha-Susan |
should I paste it?? |
08:38 |
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fredericd |
Enter yaz-marcdump <filename> |
08:39 |
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chris |
so if its normal textdata, that will be why |
08:39 |
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Koha-Susan |
yaz-marcdump is not installed |
08:39 |
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chris |
fredericd: that should definitely be marc eh? |
08:39 |
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Koha-Susan |
so who is responsible for converting to xml |
08:40 |
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Koha-Susan |
and why is it different than our friend biblios? Shouldnt koha use the same procedures to do everything related to MARC? |
08:40 |
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Koha-Susan |
yaz-marcdump is not installed |
08:40 |
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Koha-Susan |
should I install it?? |
08:40 |
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chris |
yes it should, and it works for others, so we are trying to find what is different in your setup |
08:40 |
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Koha-Susan |
oh i see... |
08:41 |
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Koha-Susan |
I hope you find the issue.. |
08:41 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi all |
08:41 |
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Koha-Susan |
HDL..I hope this is the HDL you guys are talking about |
08:42 |
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Koha-Susan |
any ideas gentlmen? |
08:42 |
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Koha-Susan |
as to why my authorities are not stored as XML |
08:42 |
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Koha-Susan |
while biblios are?? |
08:42 |
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Koha-Susan |
during zebra_rebuild -a |
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hdl_laptop |
Koha-Susan : authorities are not stored as XML where ? |
08:44 |
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Koha-Susan |
Hi hdl first. |
08:44 |
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fredericd |
chris: rebuild_zebra exports authority records in ISO2709 not in XML |
08:44 |
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Koha-Susan |
yes..I see alot of ISO2709 files under the Biblios |
08:44 |
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Koha-Susan |
but not under Authorities.. |
08:44 |
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fredericd |
and it is supposed to fix 001 tag if not present |
08:44 |
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Koha-Susan |
HDL, let me introduce the issue real quick. I create authority, I save authority, I rebuild -a , I get no results |
08:45 |
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fredericd |
Koha-Susan: Install yaz-marcdump |
08:45 |
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Koha-Susan |
with an error telling me 109 |
08:45 |
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hdl_laptop |
database unavailable |
08:45 |
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chris |
fredericd: she said it is a plain text file, not a marc one |
08:45 |
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Koha-Susan |
search authorities error 109 1 1+0 RPN et et et |
08:45 |
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hdl_laptop |
have you tried to init the zebra authorities base. |
08:45 |
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Koha-Susan |
in my MYSQL , under AUTH_HEADER, under the column MARCXML |
08:45 |
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Koha-Susan |
I only see normal text |
08:45 |
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chris |
can you paste that file please Koha-Susan |
08:45 |
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hdl_laptop |
and reindex ? |
08:45 |
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Koha-Susan |
while looking under biblioItems i see FULL XML |
08:45 |
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Koha-Susan |
what file??? |
08:46 |
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Koha-Susan |
...init?? |
08:46 |
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Koha-Susan |
ummmmm |
08:46 |
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Koha-Susan |
I think so?? but I am not sure |
08:46 |
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chris |
no the one rebuild created |
08:46 |
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Koha-Susan |
ok let me copy/paste contents of this file |
08:46 |
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Koha-Susan |
ok? |
08:47 |
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Koha-Susan |
are you guys going to be available later on or not?? crap I have a meeting in 15 minutes and I don't want to go |
08:47 |
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Koha-Susan |
I was lucky enough to get all three of you at once!! |
08:47 |
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hdl_laptop |
zebraidx -d authorities -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg init |
08:47 |
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hdl_laptop |
to initialize your database. |
08:48 |
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pastebot |
"Koha-Susan" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Content of the file generated from zebra -a -k" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/37 |
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chris |
hdl_laptop:shoud the stuff in marcxml in the database be xml or text? |
08:48 |
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hdl_laptop |
xml |
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hdl_laptop |
zebraidx has to be used by the user which has write access to zebra files |
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chris |
ahh that is marc Koha-Susan |
08:49 |
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Koha-Susan |
.umm so koha?? |
08:49 |
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Koha-Susan |
or root?? |
08:49 |
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Koha-Susan |
the user owning those files is koha |
08:49 |
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Koha-Susan |
with 777 permissions |
08:49 |
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chris |
koha |
08:50 |
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Koha-Susan |
now when I do rebuild, |
08:50 |
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Koha-Susan |
can I rebuild as root?? |
08:50 |
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fredericd |
hdl_laptop: read back. You will see that Koha-Susan issue is that zebra indexer can't find authority record number |
08:50 |
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hdl_laptop |
fredericd: yes. |
08:51 |
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Koha-Susan |
do I do rebuild now hdl? |
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hdl_laptop |
But it is owed to access to database. |
08:51 |
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hdl_laptop |
Koha-Susan: yes. rebuild_zebra.pl -a -reset |
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chris |
not as root |
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fredericd |
I think we need to see how your exported authority record look like before beeing send to zebra indexer |
08:51 |
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chris |
as koha |
08:52 |
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Koha-Susan |
just reinding zebra |
08:52 |
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Koha-Susan |
it still says Record didn't contan match fields in (bib1, Local-Number) |
08:52 |
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Koha-Susan |
bad match criteria |
08:52 |
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Koha-Susan |
records: 0 |
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chris |
fredericd: you can take that file she pasted and marcdump it |
08:53 |
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fredericd |
Koha-Susan: could paste your rebuild_zebra.pl file? |
08:53 |
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Koha-Susan |
this is of course when I changed the koha-config.xml for authorities to point to zebra-authorities.cfg, instead of zebra-authorities-dom.cfg...before it was telling me that zebra-authorities-dom.cfg is not a record thats found |
08:53 |
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Koha-Susan |
sure thing |
08:53 |
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Koha-Susan |
give me minute please |
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pastebot |
"Koha-Susan" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "rebuild zebra file contents" (916 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/38 |
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Koha-Susan |
pasted |
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kf |
just reading back - we are using authorities, but not biblios. just tell me when you need me to look in our database. |
08:55 |
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Koha-Susan |
pardon?? |
08:56 |
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Koha-Susan |
I am trying to search "Authorities" that I added/saved |
08:56 |
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Koha-Susan |
Biblios is A++++ working fine |
08:56 |
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Koha-Susan |
but Authorities is NOT |
08:56 |
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Koha-Susan |
I save it, then search for it...it tells me database not found..or Error 109 |
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chris |
<!-- Record 1 offset 0 (0x0) --> |
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chris |
00214nz a2200109n 4500 |
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chris |
(Directory offset 108: Bad value for data length and/or length starting) |
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chris |
001 O |
08:56 |
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Koha-Susan |
which also means dadtabase not found |
08:56 |
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chris |
all of them have 0 for 001 |
08:56 |
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chris |
that is the problem |
08:57 |
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Koha-Susan |
confused./.... |
08:57 |
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chris |
<!-- Record 2 offset 413 (0x19d) --> |
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chris |
21:55 ~ $ yaz-marcdump test.mrc |
08:57 |
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chris |
00214nz a2200109n 4500 |
08:57 |
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chris |
(Directory offset 108: Bad value for data length and/or length starting) |
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chris |
001 O |
08:58 |
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chris |
so all of them are coming through with 0 in the 001 field |
08:58 |
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Koha-Susan |
so what do I do?? |
08:58 |
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Koha-Susan |
anything? |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "marcxml from yaz-marcdump" (26 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/39 |
09:00 |
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Koha-Susan |
I don't know what you did exactly chris |
09:00 |
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Koha-Susan |
but I also don't understand this result |
09:00 |
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Koha-Susan |
or a solution to it |
09:00 |
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Koha-Susan |
:( |
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chris |
its for hdl and fredericd to look at |
09:01 |
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Koha-Susan |
so what do I do guys?? |
09:01 |
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Koha-Susan |
is there any hope.. |
09:01 |
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chris |
the problem is, your records dont have 001 set properly |
09:01 |
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chris |
Koha-Susan: just give us some time to look at it, we cant react instantly |
09:01 |
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Koha-Susan |
and thats perfectly fine chris...I am going to leave my chat online right now. I have a meeting for 2 hours. |
09:01 |
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Koha-Susan |
If I come back , will you guys be still here? |
09:01 |
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Koha-Susan |
I am not sure what time it is for you there |
09:02 |
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hdl_laptop |
I shall be. |
09:02 |
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Koha-Susan |
Thank you very much |
09:02 |
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hdl_laptop |
But there sure is some problem with your authority import. |
09:02 |
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Koha-Susan |
I will be back in 2 hours I hope they don't make me stay there for more.. |
09:02 |
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hdl_laptop |
you should have some authid set. |
09:02 |
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chris |
hdl_laptop: it isnt an import |
09:02 |
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Koha-Susan |
Yes definitly it is my authority import. Maybe if you tell me how to create a "Good" authority??? correctly? |
09:02 |
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chris |
its creating the authority in koha |
09:03 |
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Koha-Susan |
Because the only thing I do is fill in tab 1, tag a with a name |
09:03 |
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Koha-Susan |
and the rest I just click Save and then try searching for it |
09:03 |
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Koha-Susan |
maybe thats a wrong way fo creating authroity? I don't know |
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hdl_laptop |
Koha-Susan: are you using MARC21 or UNIMARC ? |
09:03 |
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Koha-Susan |
oh...so maybe its indexing then? Rather than Import?? or maybe the import is ok, but NOT fully OK, because like Fredereic said, NO xml IN MARCXML colum |
09:03 |
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Koha-Susan |
MARC21 |
09:04 |
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Koha-Susan |
while in MARCXML colum in BIBLIOITEMS, I see XML tags... |
09:05 |
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Koha-Susan |
Hi, just checking that |I am still connected |
09:05 |
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Koha-Susan |
please say yes |
09:06 |
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Koha-Susan |
I am in a meeting now, be back 2 hours |
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susan-meeting-2 |
I am now in a meeting, but I am still looking at the logs, just can't type anyting |
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susan-meeting-2 |
\be back in 2 hours |
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chris |
personally i would check your library actually needs authorities, and if not, turn them off, and then solve this problem when you dont have a deadline |
09:33 |
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susan-meeting-2 |
my library director is _______ |
09:33 |
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susan-meeting-2 |
so I have to get her authorities, she yelled at me yesterday |
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susan-meeting-2 |
still in a meeting, back maybe 30 minutes, I cut it short so I can get some help |
09:34 |
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susan-meeting-2 |
be back in 30 or 40 minutes to continue this |
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susan-meeting-2 |
] |
09:34 |
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susan-meeting-2 |
would you believe I didnt even eat lunch today |
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susan-meeting-2 |
sighs |
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audun |
hey guys. I'm trying to import using z39.50. When I click "add Item", I get the following msg: "found MARCXML element datafield, but the <record> wrapper is missing at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MARC/File/XML.pm line 445" |
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audun |
any ideas? |
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|Lupin| |
audun: no, no idea, sorry |
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|Lupin| |
chris: ? |
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susan-meeting-2 |
i am back |
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susan-meeting-2 |
so, who will help me? Ldp here? or chris? or fredreicd? |
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Susan-Tired |
um.... |
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hdl_laptop |
Susan-Tired: ? |
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magnusenger |
audun: do you get the same for all z39.50 servers? which one are you searching? |
10:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
thats me |
10:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
susan-koha, koha-dev |
10:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
thats all me hehe |
10:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
I can't seem to log out of irc for some reason..it always keeps my name there |
10:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
I am using the web system |
10:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
so hdl, could you please go with me step by step from the beginning of authority, I believe you are the expert in this part |
10:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
:) please?? |
10:26 |
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Susan-Tired |
no reply? busy? |
10:26 |
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kf |
hi Susan, which version of Koha are u using? I just added an authority and it seemed to work ok. |
10:27 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok, I am using Koha 3.00.00 |
10:27 |
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Susan-Tired |
I can't ugrade because I made a lot of customizations |
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kf |
where are u adding the authorities? cataloging or authorities module? |
10:28 |
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Susan-Tired |
let me see how I am adding it |
10:28 |
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Susan-Tired |
give mea sec please |
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kf |
I tried from authorites, will go to cataloging now |
10:28 |
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Susan-Tired |
Main page, under Cataloging, i see Authorities |
10:28 |
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Susan-Tired |
click on new "authority" |
10:29 |
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kf |
ok |
10:29 |
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kf |
thats what I did |
10:30 |
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kf |
I chose personal name |
10:30 |
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Susan-Tired |
when you search for the authority, do you get it back>?? |
10:30 |
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Susan-Tired |
yah personal name, then? |
10:30 |
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kf |
I added 100 a |
10:30 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok then? |
10:31 |
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kf |
tried to save, got prompted with missing mandatory fields, they got auto-filled and saved again |
10:31 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok thats what I did too |
10:31 |
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kf |
ok |
10:31 |
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Susan-Tired |
then you search for this authority and you find it? |
10:31 |
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kf |
yes |
10:31 |
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Susan-Tired |
after you do rebuild-zebra? |
10:32 |
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kf |
in authorities it seems to work immediately |
10:32 |
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Susan-Tired |
if you go to your mysql database, under table AUTH_header, for column marcxml |
10:32 |
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Susan-Tired |
do you see normal text data, OR xml data |
10:32 |
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kf |
one moment |
10:32 |
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kf |
I have to find it :) |
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Susan-Tired |
please do |
10:33 |
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kf |
over 26.000 authorities there |
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Susan-Tired |
I just wantt os ee if this is my issue or everyone |
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Susan-Tired |
oh |
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audun |
magnusenger: searching z3950.bibsys.no and z3950.nb.no |
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Susan-Tired |
just select * from auth_header where authid=1 |
10:33 |
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Susan-Tired |
returns first one |
10:33 |
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magnusenger |
audun: let me test... |
10:34 |
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kf |
hm |
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Susan-Tired |
well? |
10:35 |
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kf |
give me a sec |
10:35 |
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kf |
ah wrong database |
10:35 |
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Susan-Tired |
hehe |
10:35 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok I will wait |
10:35 |
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hdl_laptop |
Susan-Tired: can you pastebin marcxml data ? |
10:36 |
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magnusenger |
audun: bibsys works for me. What version are you on? |
10:36 |
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kf |
xml |
10:36 |
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kf |
and it created 001 |
10:36 |
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Susan-Tired |
<Susan-Tired> I really dont know how to tell <Susan-Tired> can you go to the main koha site hdl..or you want private so no one bothers you? <Susan-Tired> I don't mind either.. <Susan-Tired> hdl, notice that once I do rebuild_zebra <Susan-Tired> I get the error No such record type: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml <Susan-Tired> then it tells me Records: 0 i/u/d 0/0/0 |
10:37 |
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Susan-Tired |
kindly tell me how can I paste marxml data?? |
10:37 |
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Susan-Tired |
what command should I use?? |
10:37 |
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audun |
magnusenger: 3.00.00.107 |
10:37 |
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Susan-Tired |
or you want the result from MYSQL?? |
10:37 |
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audun |
magnusenger: and perl 5.10 |
10:38 |
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kf |
Susan-Tired: looks like this for me: http://pastebin.com/d6ec1ba4e |
10:38 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok let me check please |
10:39 |
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Susan-Tired |
oh i see.... |
10:39 |
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Susan-Tired |
hdl_laptop, kindly note that his marcxml from mysql is nice and all xmly |
10:39 |
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Susan-Tired |
while mine is just normal text |
10:39 |
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Susan-Tired |
I will show you |
10:41 |
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Susan-Tired |
http://pastebin.com/m36c62614 |
10:42 |
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kf |
looks like .mrc |
10:42 |
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Susan-Tired |
maybe my data is simple text because of this issue "no such record type: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/athorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml">> That I get during rebuild -a |
10:42 |
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Susan-Tired |
I tried to search for this issue in google, ALSO nothing |
10:43 |
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kf |
I was testing with : 3.01.00.061 |
10:43 |
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kf |
I dont think its a problem with idexing |
10:44 |
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kf |
it should be stored as xml |
10:44 |
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Susan-Tired |
i dont really know kf. |
10:44 |
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Susan-Tired |
I am very confused.. |
10:44 |
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kf |
hm |
10:45 |
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kf |
sorry, I am not a programmer - so I dont know exactly how koha is supposed to work here |
10:45 |
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Susan-Tired |
its ok kf |
10:45 |
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hdl_laptop |
Susan-Tired: Your problem might be of a configuration problem |
10:46 |
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hdl_laptop |
I am much used to GRS configuration and not to DOM configuration. |
10:46 |
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Susan-Tired |
some say it might be because of the modules for authorities |
10:47 |
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Susan-Tired |
mine point to /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules |
10:47 |
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Susan-Tired |
but that is the right place I think... |
10:47 |
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Susan-Tired |
I can change it to GRS...just as long as it fixes my issue...what do I have to do?read? |
10:48 |
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Susan-Tired |
the modules is not the issue..It is pointing to /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0 which is correct |
10:50 |
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kf |
grs or dom is chosen during installation |
10:51 |
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kf |
but dont know how if you can change it easily after that |
10:51 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok... |
10:52 |
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hdl_laptop |
Susan-Tired: it is not that easy. |
10:52 |
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Susan-Tired |
so in your professional opinion, there is no solution for this matter, except reinstall?? |
10:53 |
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Susan-Tired |
and maybe a newer version than 3.0.0? |
10:53 |
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hdl_laptop |
Susan-Tired: That could be the easiest way to cope with that. |
10:53 |
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Susan-Tired |
what if I disable zebra?? and simply do myself?? |
10:53 |
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Susan-Tired |
simply do mysql? |
10:53 |
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Susan-Tired |
Will that fix the issue?? |
10:54 |
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Susan-Tired |
We don't have a lot of data, maybe 1000-300 max |
10:55 |
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kf |
is your system in production? |
10:55 |
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Susan-Tired |
yes but still not used |
10:55 |
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Susan-Tired |
but I made alot of modifications to it |
10:56 |
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Susan-Tired |
relative to design and such |
10:56 |
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hdl_laptop |
oh.... |
10:56 |
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kf |
you changed the templates? |
10:56 |
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Susan-Tired |
yes many times.. |
10:57 |
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Susan-Tired |
do you guys know anyone who might be able to help with this at all? |
10:57 |
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Susan-Tired |
or do I have to give up and get the library director to yell at me? |
10:58 |
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kf |
customizations that prevent you from updating are a general problem |
10:58 |
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hdl_laptop |
you could also change all the zebra-authorities-dom.cfg in your installation file to zebra-authorities.cfg |
10:58 |
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Susan-Tired |
I have done that...that PRODUCES a different issue |
10:58 |
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Susan-Tired |
let me do it again and tell you of the issue that it gives me |
10:58 |
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Susan-Tired |
give me 1 minute please |
11:00 |
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Susan-Tired |
I will copy/paste now |
11:00 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok? |
11:02 |
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pastebot |
"Susan-Tired" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "mistuserMIST-Koha-Test:/tmp/U" (56 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/40 |
11:02 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok I pasted it |
11:02 |
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Susan-Tired |
kindly please view it, I hope it can trigger something in your head |
11:06 |
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Susan-Tired |
.... |
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kf |
Susan-Tired: perhaps try again with your problem in the afternoon when usa is awake too |
11:09 |
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kf |
ok... timezones |
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kf |
from my point of view afternoon (Germany ;) ) |
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hdl_laptop |
Susan-Tired: mmm... If the mysqldata is broken, then the result cannot really be good. |
11:11 |
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hdl_laptop |
Can you reset your auth_header table and re create one or two authorities please ? |
11:13 |
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Susan-Tired |
kindly tell me how to reset this table? |
11:14 |
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Susan-Tired |
just delete all the data in this table?? |
11:14 |
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|Lupin| |
Susan-Tired: yes |
11:14 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok I will do that |
11:14 |
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Susan-Tired |
and I will keep you udated |
11:15 |
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|Lupin| |
Susan-Tired: or maybe do a truncate auth_head; |
11:15 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok did that |
11:15 |
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Susan-Tired |
now should I do rebuild zebra again? |
11:15 |
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Susan-Tired |
the problem is rebuild zebra gives me issues on its own, because it does not index anything!! |
11:16 |
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Susan-Tired |
Now should I add a new authority first? Before indexing?? |
11:16 |
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|Lupin| |
Susan-Tired: yes |
11:17 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok I added a new Authority now |
11:17 |
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kf |
lunch time - good luck Susan, I hope your problem can be solved! |
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Susan-Tired |
same issue. it tells me tmp/XXXXXX/authority/exported_records:0 record.abs:13: couln't find att 'any' in attset |
11:18 |
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Susan-Tired |
then unable to acquire abstract syntax for 'record' |
11:18 |
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Susan-Tired |
then record didn't contain match fields in (bib1, Local-Number) |
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hdl_laptop |
huh... |
11:19 |
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Susan-Tired |
IF These errors are helpfull, I would figure it out...but its like trying to read turkish.. |
11:19 |
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Susan-Tired |
this is AFTER I removed the -dom section from authorities.cfg |
11:19 |
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Susan-Tired |
in koha-conf.xml |
11:19 |
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hdl_laptop |
unable to acquire 'abstract syntax' this is really strange. |
11:20 |
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hdl_laptop |
have you launched zebraidx -d authorities -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg init ? |
11:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
after I made those changes??? |
11:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
no I have not |
11:20 |
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Susan-Tired |
but before YES I have |
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hdl_laptop |
can you do that now ? and then try to reindex ? |
11:22 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok just did that |
11:22 |
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Susan-Tired |
and now I will reindex |
11:23 |
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Susan-Tired |
same exact problem hdl |
11:23 |
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Susan-Tired |
I don't know what is wrong with this...WHY does my biblios WORK and this does not |
11:23 |
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Susan-Tired |
I DONT know....... |
11:23 |
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Susan-Tired |
How do I know if a database was created for authorities?? I know that no records are entered into the database, BUT how do I know if a database has been created??? |
11:24 |
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Susan-Tired |
http://paste.workbuffer.org/40 |
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Susan-Tired |
the error it shows |
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Susan-Tired |
hey guys on production. It gives me the same issue no dom file record type found |
11:56 |
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Susan-Tired |
but when I search for a user |
11:56 |
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Susan-Tired |
the returned error is search authorities error 114 |
11:56 |
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Susan-Tired |
which is different than 109 |
11:56 |
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Susan-Tired |
any help with that??? |
11:56 |
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Susan-Tired |
my production is different than my test machine |
11:58 |
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mason |
fyi: you've got an old verion of zebra susan. |
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mason |
'zebra_start /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-authorities.cfg 1.3.50' |
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mason |
s/verion/version/ |
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Susan-Tired |
how do I check sorry for version?? |
12:00 |
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Susan-Tired |
and would update zebra fix all these darn issues? sorry for the language... |
12:01 |
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mason |
$ zebraidx -V |
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mason |
Zebra 2.0.42 |
12:01 |
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Susan-Tired |
zebra 1.3.50 date 2007 |
12:01 |
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Susan-Tired |
should I update it?? |
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mason |
it would be a great start ;) |
12:01 |
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Susan-Tired |
and would thsi mess up my system???? |
12:01 |
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Susan-Tired |
how do I update it... |
12:01 |
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mason |
depends on your system... |
12:01 |
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Susan-Tired |
Ubuntu |
12:02 |
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mason |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]83b9ef6912db031f9 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok I will see |
12:03 |
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mason |
1.3 Install the Yaz and Zebra packages |
12:03 |
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mason |
Run the following command to update your system: |
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mason |
$ sudo apt-get update |
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mason |
$ sudo apt-get install yaz idzebra-2.0 idzebra-2.0-doc |
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Susan-Tired |
but I have this idzebra-2.0 |
12:03 |
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Susan-Tired |
under /etc/lib or somewhere like that |
12:03 |
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Susan-Tired |
or /usr/lib |
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mason |
$ which zebraidx |
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mason |
you have 2 versions of zebraidx your box? |
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Susan-Tired |
did you get that? |
12:04 |
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mason |
i guess... :/ |
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Susan-Tired |
it says |
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Susan-Tired |
ahhh why can't I write " |
12:05 |
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Susan-Tired |
stupid |
12:05 |
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Susan-Tired |
let me try again "under usr bin zebraidx"\ |
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mason |
/usr/bin/zebraidx |
12:05 |
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Susan-Tired |
thats what it says |
12:05 |
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Susan-Tired |
yes |
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mason |
so you have bad paths on your box, and multiple versions of zebra ? |
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Susan-Tired |
How can I fix this? but Mason...my Biblios work fine |
12:06 |
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Susan-Tired |
both adding/saving/searching |
12:06 |
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Susan-Tired |
but only Authorities is giving me stupid trouble |
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Susan-Tired |
I can save...but when I do rebuild_zebra -a it gives me no record type found dom....et etc etc |
12:07 |
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mason |
AKAIK authorities work using DOM, which needs zebra-2 |
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Susan-Tired |
but biblios work why?? |
12:07 |
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Susan-Tired |
please help me understand?? |
12:07 |
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Susan-Tired |
and how do I fix this path issues.....I suck at linux :) |
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Susan-Tired |
i have two versions of zebra!! i can see them idzebra-config |
12:08 |
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Susan-Tired |
and idzebra-config 2.0 |
12:08 |
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Susan-Tired |
and similar repaeated files for all others when I go locate zebra |
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mason |
update your deb packages 1st |
12:09 |
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Susan-Tired |
should I just delete each one manualy..sounds time consuming |
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mason |
remove your old (and problematic) zebra1 packages |
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Susan-Tired |
.how?? |
12:09 |
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mason |
manually ;) |
12:10 |
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Susan-Tired |
no uninstall feature here ubuntu where I can uninstall zebra? |
12:10 |
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Susan-Tired |
and just install again?? |
12:10 |
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Susan-Tired |
hehehe |
12:11 |
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mason |
$ apt-get remove idzebra |
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Susan-Tired |
actually sorry just a question |
12:11 |
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Susan-Tired |
can I just change the path to point to the new zebra?? |
12:11 |
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Susan-Tired |
does it not work this way?? |
12:11 |
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Susan-Tired |
or no? |
12:12 |
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mason |
its safer for you to remove the old one |
12:12 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok I will do that then |
12:13 |
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mason |
its already causing you trouble... |
12:13 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok... |
12:13 |
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Susan-Tired |
it removed idzebra |
12:13 |
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Susan-Tired |
what should I do now?:? |
12:14 |
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mason |
heres what i did in your exact situation.... |
12:15 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok...listening.. |
12:15 |
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mason |
set up release version of koha3, and experiment with authorities on it |
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mason |
for me zebra-GRS1 didnt work, only a DOM install :/ |
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Susan-Tired |
I am using Koha 3.0.0 |
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Susan-Tired |
and I cant update because I did alot of template changing... |
12:17 |
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Susan-Tired |
so all my hard work is gone.. |
12:17 |
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mason |
use the cmdline bulk-marc-import scripts to load in some sane test records |
12:18 |
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mason |
not really... |
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Susan-Tired |
by the way...now my rebuild_zebra stopped working |
12:18 |
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Susan-Tired |
I guess this apt-get remove did some funky things |
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mason |
after your record import, check that your got real auth data in the 'auth_header' table.. |
12:19 |
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Susan-Tired |
do you think the liblime people might be able to help me |
12:19 |
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Susan-Tired |
if my company pays money?? |
12:20 |
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mason |
yep |
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Susan-Tired |
I just hope it does not get to this point...my company might rethink why they hired me |
12:21 |
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Susan-Tired |
hehe |
12:21 |
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Susan-Tired |
thought o be fair, I didn't even eat lunch today just so I can work on this problem |
12:21 |
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Susan-Tired |
and no fix yet :( |
12:21 |
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mason |
well, it sure took me a few days to work out :) |
12:22 |
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mason |
but, haaay - you do need a *sane* koha system to work on.. |
12:22 |
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mason |
with a recent zebra too! ;) |
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Susan-Tired |
I understand. From what I understand...I have a feeling that I need to re-install everything |
12:23 |
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Susan-Tired |
on a fresh install... |
12:23 |
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Susan-Tired |
The problem is..I will loose all my fancy templating.. |
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mason |
yep, but dont wipe all your old hard-work! |
12:23 |
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Susan-Tired |
and the deadline for Koha-prod will have to be delayed |
12:23 |
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Susan-Tired |
and you have no IDEA how _ the director of the library is |
12:27 |
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mason |
http://www.library.northwester[…]c/gsafd/gsafd.mrc |
12:28 |
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mason |
i used these sample auth-records to start import testing, in my koha3 |
12:31 |
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Susan-Tired |
I have a question kindly help me with it |
12:32 |
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Susan-Tired |
Right now zebra is being a **** with Authorities |
12:32 |
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Susan-Tired |
Can I make authorities NOT use zebra? While Biblios DO?? |
12:33 |
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mason |
nope |
12:34 |
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Susan-Tired |
i see... |
12:35 |
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Susan-Tired |
how about if I want to disable zebra |
12:35 |
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Susan-Tired |
and make it work with nozebra |
12:35 |
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Susan-Tired |
can I do that?? |
12:35 |
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Susan-Tired |
it seems to make my life easier |
12:36 |
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mason |
no, stick with zebra, just update to ver2... |
12:37 |
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Susan-Tired |
but Mason, I have both |
12:37 |
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Susan-Tired |
and when I did remove idzepra |
12:37 |
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Susan-Tired |
that messed up everything so now my test machine is unusable |
12:37 |
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Susan-Tired |
so I went back to dev...I don't know how to remove ver1 and replace everything to use ver2 |
12:37 |
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Susan-Tired |
can you direct me somewhere , like a tutorial or something? If you know of any |
12:38 |
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mason |
# dpkg -l|grep -i zeb |
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mason |
says what? |
12:38 |
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mason |
ie: what zebra packages do you currently have installed... |
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Susan-Tired |
idzebra |
12:39 |
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Susan-Tired |
idzebra-2 |
12:39 |
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Susan-Tired |
both of those |
12:39 |
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mason |
right... |
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hdl_laptop |
Susan-Tired: reading back logs. |
12:40 |
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mason |
# apt-get remove idzebra |
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hdl_laptop |
error 114 is really different from Error 109 : |
12:40 |
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Susan-Tired |
yes it is |
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hdl_laptop |
109 : database unavailable |
12:40 |
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Susan-Tired |
I get this error on my production system |
12:40 |
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Susan-Tired |
which is the latest... |
12:40 |
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hdl_laptop |
114 : error on attribute. |
12:40 |
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Susan-Tired |
my dev and test..sometimes I forget to update them |
12:40 |
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Susan-Tired |
I know, I work on prod first hehe |
12:40 |
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Susan-Tired |
any ideas on a fix hdl?? |
12:41 |
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mason |
focus susan.... remove your old zebra! |
12:41 |
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hdl_laptop |
I just saw that Mason had great ideas. |
12:41 |
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Susan-Tired |
Yes mr.Mason |
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hdl_laptop |
About zebra versions. |
12:41 |
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Susan-Tired |
but I cant!! |
12:41 |
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Susan-Tired |
I don't want to use sudo apt-get remove idzebra |
12:41 |
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Susan-Tired |
it removed ALOT of things and it messed up my test server |
12:41 |
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Susan-Tired |
there must be a nother way |
12:41 |
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Susan-Tired |
like telling ubutnu alternatives or something!@ |
12:41 |
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Susan-Tired |
please |
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mason |
i doesnt remove a lot of things, it removes zebra |
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mason |
s/i/it/ |
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Susan-Tired |
I can tell you what happened. When I did it on the test machine. It removed many pre-important packages/lib |
12:43 |
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Susan-Tired |
so later whe I did rebuild-b |
12:43 |
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Susan-Tired |
it didn't tell me anything about the "Indexing" section, just left it empty |
12:43 |
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Susan-Tired |
so even my biblios got ruined |
12:43 |
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Susan-Tired |
so it does not use the idzebra 2.0 |
12:43 |
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Susan-Tired |
I even tried to install this idzebra 2.0 |
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Susan-Tired |
but it does not allow me ..something with libyaz3 or stuff like that |
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mason |
yes... that 'stuff' is important |
12:44 |
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Susan-Tired |
yes...but I can't install them |
12:44 |
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Susan-Tired |
it says no installable package |
12:44 |
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Susan-Tired |
I can put the error mesage for you? Give me a minute please |
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mason |
then remove *both* zebras, and install zebra-2 |
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Susan-Tired |
ok give me a minute please mason |
12:49 |
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mason |
and dont start on your auths problem, until you've sorted out your zebra issue |
12:49 |
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mason |
my hunch is that auths need zebra2... |
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Susan-Tired |
..I can't install idzebra.20 |
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Susan-Tired |
it says idzebra-1.9 depends idzebra-2.0-utils but it is not going to be installed |
12:51 |
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Susan-Tired |
then I stid sudo apt-get install idzebra-2.0-utils |
12:51 |
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Susan-Tired |
it gaves me otherissues, like libgnutls13 , libicu36 and libyaz3 |
12:51 |
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Susan-Tired |
...??? |
12:51 |
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Susan-Tired |
The problem is before I followed tutorials on how to do all this...so it told me what to install before hand and such |
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Susan-Tired |
now I am lost.. |
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hdl_laptop |
the tutorial also told you to use indexdata repositories and not ubuntu as far as i can tell. |
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mason |
yep, that is your missed step, susan... |
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mason |
the ubuntu versions of zebra are 1.9... |
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hdl_laptop |
(Indexdata repository is the uptodate source for zebra server and yaz) |
12:54 |
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mason |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]de_ubuntu_hardy&s[]=ubuntu&s[]=install |
12:55 |
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mason |
add this... |
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mason |
deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/ubuntu/ hardy main |
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hdl_laptop |
Susan-Tired: I have just read INSTALL.ubuntu from the tarball and it doesnot mention indexdata source. |
12:56 |
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mason |
ah, its missing from there :/ |
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hdl_laptop |
Sorry. It should have. |
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Susan-Tired |
give me a minute please |
12:57 |
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mason |
fyi: its in the debian INSTALL file. |
12:57 |
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mason |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]83b9ef6912db031f9 |
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mason |
/me sneaks some food.... |
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Susan-Tired |
Thank you mason, I will leave you to rest now |
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kernel_2 |
is there a way to run independent branches with seperate dbs(preferably on seperate machines)? The only point of integration being opac search.... |
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Susan-Tired |
I am going to go kill something hehe, jk..I hae to leave.. |
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Susan-Tired |
soooooooooooo tired |
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kernel_2 |
know it sounds outlandish but still wanted to give it a try |
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Susan-Tired |
what I amg oing to do though mason is, in 1 week, I will setup a different machine and install the latest version of Koha, AND NO more template customizeations! |
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Susan-Tired |
hehe |
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Susan-Tired |
thank you very much, I am going to go rest now |
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mason |
no problemo, its always great to help someone out |
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kf |
Susan-Tired: you can do a lot of nice things just with css and jquery, owen is a great source for tips :) |
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Susan-Tired |
thanks... |
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Susan-Tired |
Do you guys think the newest version of koha has these issues fixed?? |
13:05 |
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Susan-Tired |
especially if I just install idzebra2.0?? |
13:05 |
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Susan-Tired |
or maybe I should go without zebra |
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Susan-Tired |
since our library is not huge right now |
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kernel_2 |
the setup is of different libraries with their own servers, and wanting a way to search among all these libraries.... |
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mason |
susan, your problem isnt a koha problem, you have an old version of zebra |
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* gmcharlt |
is driving from Gainesville to Atlanta, back online in a bit |
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Susan-Tired |
ok mason |
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mason |
your system (for whatever reason) is using the old zeb, not your new zeb |
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mason |
fyi: use zebra, nozeb has old functionallity gaps, and no-one is working on fixing them |
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Susan-Tired |
ok mason |
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jdavidb |
Good morning, owen! |
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owen |
Hi |
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ftherese |
I have a really simple question |
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jdavidb |
I got presented with an interesting puzzler last week; someone wants to run two Koha servers in a consortium--including multiple mysql servers. Multimaster replication is tricky, but they've got a good clean network between the two sites, so it oughta work |
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jdavidb |
Ask it, ftherese. :) |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
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ftherese |
I want to move from a filemaker database to kola |
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ftherese |
I've already installed kola |
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ftherese |
working... |
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ftherese |
but how do I import into the kola database? |
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ftherese |
I am not exactly sure where the "import" button is... and as I look at it, it is perhaps a bit more complicated |
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ftherese |
Is there a page I can read? |
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fredericd |
ftherese: You can't directly. You need first to convert you FM records into UNIMARC. |
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ftherese |
ok |
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ftherese |
I can do that |
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jdavidb |
yup. First thing, your records are going to have to be in some fairly-standard MARC form...then the import is pretty straightforward. |
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ftherese |
then how do I go about importing the unimarc formatted data? |
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jdavidb |
Here's one document on it: http://koha.org/documentation/[…]ecords-for-import |
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jdavidb |
It's under "Tools" in Koha. |
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ftherese |
ok great... I'll read that |
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ftherese |
ahh.. there we go! Thanks... I most likely will be back, but that should keep me busy for a while |
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jdavidb |
:) Glad to help. |
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paul_p |
ftherese: hello. do you know we have a french speaking channel on freenode (#koha-fr) |
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ftherese |
yeah... I was there for a couple of minute, but no one else was in there |
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ftherese |
oh -fr |
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ftherese |
ok |
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ftherese |
I am actually English speaking, but will be installing in french |
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ftherese |
so I might find myself going over there eventually, thanks :) |
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fallor |
hi |
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owen |
Hi fallor |
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fallor |
would you be able to help me with autobarcode? |
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owen |
Not me, I don't have any experience with it. Maybe someone else who's here? |
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fallor |
oh, I think i got it working now |
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fallor |
simple misconfiguration |
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fallor |
yep |
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fallor |
all well now |
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fallor |
:) |
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howdy, nengard! |
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hiya jdavidb |
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wow, busy morning |
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wizzyrea |
hi! |
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hdl_laptop |
hi american folks |
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jdavidb |
Hi, hdl_laptop :) |
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mornin hdl |
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ftherese |
hello... trying to access koha from other computers (other than the localhost) what do I need to change in the configuration of apache or kola-httpd.conf to accomplish this |
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ftherese |
they are all on the same intranet |
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Ropuch |
<VirtualHost 127.0.0.1:8080> |
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Ropuch |
and:80 |
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Ropuch |
Change the ip |
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ftherese |
ok |
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ftherese |
thank you! |
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Ropuch |
:) |
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Ropuch |
fredericd: in ubuntu/debian it's in /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha |
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ftherese |
got it... perfect |
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ftherese |
works! |
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if you http://ip.address.of.koha:8080 you can't get in? |
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wanders off in search of food |
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wizzyrea |
Yea, that waws where I was headed, but had to leave my desk, so thanks for taking care of her Ropuch :) |
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[; |
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kf |
ok, time to leave work - bye #koha |
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:) |
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brendan |
hello and good morning #koha |
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jdavidb |
Hi, brendan! :) |
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Hi brendan, jdavidb, nengard |
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jwagner |
owen, online? |
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owen |
Yes |
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jwagner |
Question for you and/or any catalogers around. I ran into a title CONCUR '99 ISBN: 3540664254 with an odd (to me) 111 field. |
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jwagner |
a International Conference on Concurrency Theory -- n (10th : -- d 1999 : c Eindhoven, Netherlands) |
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jwagner |
LC standard for 111 subfield n says it's Number of part/section/meeting. However, XSLT doesn't have it set to display, which means that part of the author field looks like |
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jwagner |
Baeten, J. C. M ; Mauw, S .International Conference on Concurrency Theory 1999 : Eindhoven, Netherlands). -- note the closing paren without the opening paren, |
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jdavidb |
That looks pretty normal for a conference author, Jane. I've eyeballed a few of them before. Might need some XSLT love. |
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jwagner |
For this particular site, I set both results and display to check for a 111n, and if present to display before 111a. Is that the best solution overall? If so, I'll do a patch. |
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* owen |
has no technical knowledge of the proper solution, would choose the solution that looks the most sensible |
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jdavidb |
That should be sensible, Jane, based on the MARC standard for 111. |
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jwagner |
Wasn't sure how widespread the 111n might be, and if it's used like this. I also want to take the XSLT closing period off the last occurrence of the 111/711 fields -- usually the entry has its own period, which means there are two in the display. |
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jwagner |
Looking at the LC MARC, it probably needs the same subfield n fix for the 711 as for the 111. |
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chris |
morning |
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nengard |
pianohacker - as I go through the prefs for documentation I have been reporting bugs to you :) |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris, pianohacker |
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Ropuch |
hello nengard |
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pianohacker |
hi, Ropuch, nengard |
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nengard |
brb |
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pianohacker |
@later tell nengard I've noticed :) working my way down through them in order of severity, will send a pull-request for all of them at once |
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munin |
pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
i need to do another pull request for translations too |
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* chris_n |
greets chris |
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chris |
hiya chris_n |
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Ropuch |
Which remids i should find time to finish translating staff |
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chris_n |
and pianohacker |
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Ropuch |
s/remids/reminds me |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris_n |
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chris_n |
hi Ropuch |
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pianohacker |
hi, chris_* |
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chris_n |
heh |
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pianohacker |
It's actually rather satisfying to work through a list of bugs |
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chris |
has anyone tried the new live cd? |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]_based_opac_kiosk |
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chris_n |
what obvious thing am I missing here when perl -e 'print (4 - 2) + 4;' yields 2? |
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Ropuch |
perl -e 'print ((4 - 2) + 4)' |
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chris_n |
ok, why? precedence? |
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* chris_n |
tries to get his math co-processor untied out of a gordian knot :-P |
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chris |
no its just printing the first bit |
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Ropuch |
chris_n: I have no idea, I don't know perl, I've just figured this out [; |
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chris |
perl -e '$a = (4 - 2) + 4 ; print $a' |
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chris |
its just a function of the print |
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chris |
not the math |
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Ropuch |
Hm, Live CD is worth trying |
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chris_n |
tnx |
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* chris_n |
always thought he was fairly good at math, but was beginning to doubt it |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
ok bus time |
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nengard |
well then pianohacker I'm glad to be of service :) |
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pianohacker |
nengard: I do appreciate the checking, a lot of the descriptions are a bit... byzantine |
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nengard |
I'm glad I'm re-writing the manual - it requires me to pay more attention than copying the old one into XML |
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wizzyrea |
so this kiosk is basically just a web browser + ubuntu defaulted to your koha catalog? |
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wizzyrea |
(we do this using a thing called webconverger) |
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nengard |
okay - question about stopwrods |
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nengard |
stopwords |
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nengard |
we have a pref for them - but the link from the admin panel for them is gone .... |
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owen |
nengard: The link is hidden if you use Zebra |
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owen |
The link only shows now if noZebra is turned on |
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nengard |
thanks owen - then pianohacker - you may want to remove the link to stop words from the preferences |
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nengard |
off to write another bug |
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owen |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3564 |
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munin |
Bug 3564: minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Hide Stop Words configuration if NoZebra is ON |
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owen |
That's when it changed. |
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nengard |
thanks |
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cait |
not sure if its a bug or a feature: staff can add books to every public list, but only in list module, its not possible from detail or result |
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owen |
cait: I think it's not correct that any staff member should be able to add to any public list |
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cait |
hm oh i like it, but i think it should be possible everywhere |
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owen |
One should only be able to add to lists which you created |
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cait |
its in nicoles documentation on lists to |
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cait |
so I dont think its a bug, but intended to work this way in lists |
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nengard |
owen - I disagree |
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nengard |
I'd like that the staff should be able to alter the public lists |
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nengard |
or - I think that the staff should be able to alter the public lists |
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nengard |
sorry -brain tired |
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cait |
in my libary staff wants to make heavy use of lists, but once one created the list, the other cant add books easily (only by barcode) |
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cait |
nengard: do you think it should work on result list and detail page too? |
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nengard |
right - so the staff should be able to edit all but private lists |
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nengard |
it should work all over - if it works at all |
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cait |
nengard: I think this makes sense |
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cait |
ok, I will retest it later (just to be sure) and file a bug |
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nengard |
okay - off to eat lunch |
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* nengard |
lunching |
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chris |
back at work |
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owen |
Hi chris |
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chris |
heya owen, hows things? |
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owen |
Going pretty well |
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chris |
good to hear |
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owen |
I managed to miss another Athens Halloween block party |
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chris |
:) |
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brendan |
howdy owen chris |
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brendan |
hi gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
hi brendan |
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chris |
heya brendan, i see your client went live today? |
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brendan |
hmm... pacifica |
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chris |
sweet |
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brendan |
not sure how live they are making it |
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brendan |
I think they are keeping it internal |
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chris |
ah righto |
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brendan |
at least live in no old system :) |
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gmcharlt |
brendan++ |
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brendan |
@karma |
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brendan |
not bad |
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brendan |
thanks gmcharlt |
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owen |
Poor "<!" |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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magnusenger |
heh, think i found a tiny bug in marc21_field_008.pl: line 145 should probably be "f30$f30" => $f30, not "f230$f30" => $f30, |
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chris |
oh can you send a patch? :) |
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chris |
get your name in the history doc :) |
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magnusenger |
sorry, not quite sure how to do that yet... |
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magnusenger |
would love to have my name in the history doc, though... ;-) |
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nengard |
magnusenger i wrote some tutorials when chris was teaching me how to submit patches |
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nengard |
hang on i'll get the links |
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nengard |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ntation:tutorials |
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nengard |
under ad-hoc git tutorials |
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magnusenger |
hm, which one? |
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nengard |
all of them :) hehe |
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magnusenger |
a ha! |
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nengard |
this also helps: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]pment:git_usage&s[]=git |
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magnusenger |
ok, i'm giving it a try! |
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Ropuch |
Ow, these tutorials are handy |
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nengard |
thanks Ropuch, it's because gmacharlt and chris were so patient with me while I was learning - I was able to write down all they told me |
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nengard |
or instead of gmacharlt I meant to say gmcharlt |
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wizzyrea |
gmacharlt is gmcharlt's grandma |
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wizzyrea |
oh I make myself laugh |
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owen |
:D |
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* jdavidb |
cackles |
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* gmcharlt |
suddenly suffers a bout of serious identity confusion |
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jdavidb |
aww! |
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wizzyrea |
nooo! |
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jwagner |
As long as all of you retain your Master Of Koha (tm) status! |
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wizzyrea |
yes, gmcharlt is a Koha National Treasure (tm) |
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* jdavidb |
is merely a Bachelor of Koha. |
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wizzyrea |
(with all of the associated intrigue... we could write a book!) |
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* wizzyrea |
is a Serf of Koha |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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jwagner |
Can I be a Graduate Student of Koha? |
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* nengard |
guesses she's the Secretary of Koha |
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jdavidb |
chris is one of the Seven Wonders of the Koha World, for sure. |
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jdavidb |
howdy, rhcl! |
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chris |
heh |
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cait |
dont know who I am *too tired* |
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jdavidb |
'cuz it's late in the day, where you are, cait? |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.6�C (9:30 PM CET on November 02, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Rising). |
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cait |
;) |
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nengard |
okay - finished a bunch more of the new manual - time for a nap - my body is so confused with the time changes and travel and daylight svaings and I only have 6 days to recover before the next trip |
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nengard |
be back later |
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cait |
and Im translating MARC21 frameworks... torture |
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jwagner |
cait, my sympathy! They don't make any sense in English, let alone trying to translate them. |
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magnusenger |
chris et al: should i register a bug before i try to submit the patch? |
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chris |
yes please |
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cait |
jwagner: just copy&paste from official German translation - not difficult but incredibly boring |
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jwagner |
Well, that's at least better than trying to translate official Library of Congress-ese.... |
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cait |
ok, it is better :) |
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magnusenger |
chris: and assign it to myself? |
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rhcl |
Hi Hi all |
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cait |
hi rhcl |
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chris |
magnusenger: yup :) |
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magnusenger |
chris: okidoki! |
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Ropuch |
cait: how you're translating the marc framework? Making sql statements? |
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cait |
yes, translating the sql file |
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cait |
first step translation, second step adding new fields and subfields we need for authority linking / bib linking / "subject chains" |
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cait |
not sure how this will work out |
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Ropuch |
I've tried to make .po out of sql file |
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Ropuch |
But I've failed and found that trabslating the sql is quicker |
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* magnusenger |
thought i managed to send a patch about 20 minutes ago, but it doesn't show up anywhere - does that mean i failed, or am i just being impatient? |
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chris_n |
magnusenger: maybe sendmail is not setup? |
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chris_n |
you can send it as an attachment via your regular email client |
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magnusenger |
chris_n: could very well be! I'll try to configure them email-stuff in git and have another go... |
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magnusenger |
chris_n: but sending from git is way cooler, right? ;-) |
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cait |
you must be subscribed to koha-patches |
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magnusenger |
cait: i am |
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chris_n |
magnusenger: definitely :-) |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: when's the next dev meeting? |
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pianohacker |
chris_n: 4 November: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]etingnotes09oct07 |
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chris_n |
tnx |
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chris_n |
opps |
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pianohacker |
Perhaps we should wait until after the general meeting to show the Foundation meeting? topic's getting a bit crowded |
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chris_n |
crowded-topics-- |
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chris_n |
still could not find the 4 november notice? |
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chris_n |
ahh.. transcript |
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magnusenger |
chris_n: seems i can't figure out the smtp-stuff, and i need some sleep... so do i just send the patch-file as an ordinary attachment from my gmail to koha-patcheslists.koha.org? |
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chris |
thats right |
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magnusenger |
chris: nothing in the body of the message? |
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chris |
you can if you want, just put something like, pathc for bug whatever |
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magnusenger |
i thought that wnt in the subject? |
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chris |
yep, that too |
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chris |
you can leave the body blank, normally the body is the patch, but thats an attachment in this case |
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magnusenger |
ok, here goes... |
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chris |
got your email :) |
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chris |
and patch looks fine |
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magnusenger |
that was quick! ;-) And then i change the priority of the bug to PATCH-Sent, right? |
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chris |
thats right |
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magnusenger |
nice |
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cait |
magnusenger: grats :) |
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magnusenger |
cait: thanks! That's one small step for #koha, one giant leap for me... ;-) |
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chris |
:) |
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magnusenger |
and thanks to everyone for their patience and good humour - you rock! |
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wizzyrea |
yay magnusenger! |
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magnusenger |
wizzyrea: ;-) |
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cait |
ok, no more MARC21 today - good night #koha :) |
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magnusenger |
...and so to bed. |
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ftherese |
well... so I downloaded MarcEdit... but I still don't understand how I am going to export my filemaker database in a format that can be imported into MarcEdit |
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ftherese |
anyone? |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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ftherese |
I guess my problem is I don't understand what Marc is... |
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ftherese |
is it a predefined order of fields |
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ftherese |
with names and such |
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ftherese |
or is it just a format? |
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ftherese |
I am reading from the lists: |
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ftherese |
There is a freeware Windows MARC editor called MarcEdit |
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ftherese |
(http://oregonstate.edu/~reeset[…]t/html/index.php) that has a |
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ftherese |
function to convert a delimited text file to MARC format. You could |
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ftherese |
save your spreadsheet as tab-delimited text or CSV, then use MarcEdit |
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ftherese |
to create a file that you can import into Koha. |
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wizzyrea |
have you been able to export your filemaker in a delimited format? |
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wizzyrea |
tab or comma? |
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ftherese |
I can do either |
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ftherese |
I am just trying to figure out which fields should be included |
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ftherese |
and if they need to be named properly before importing |
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ftherese |
and if there is an order they need to be in |
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wizzyrea |
Ah, ok, so start there. MARC edit should help with that part (at least, in my limited experience) |
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wizzyrea |
I believe you can use marc edit to associate to the correct field no matter where it lies |
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wizzyrea |
how to explain... |
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ftherese |
So... I can just dump my filemaker data into csv |
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ftherese |
and import that into marc |
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wizzyrea |
yea, pretty much |
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wizzyrea |
at least, in my limited experience with marcedit |
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chris |
with the caveat |
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ftherese |
and then edit the info from there... ok... |
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wizzyrea |
there's a process for "tagging" the marc fields |
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chris |
you have to tell marcedit what field goes to what |
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chris |
ie if its MARC21 |
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chris |
title = 245a |
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wizzyrea |
right, I can't remember what the little subapp is called that does that |
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wizzyrea |
or lets you do that tagging |
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chris |
you will want to find a cataloguer to help you with that |
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wizzyrea |
we had pretty good luck looking through the koha frameworks |
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wizzyrea |
to find the bits we wanted |
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wizzyrea |
it's time consuming, for sure |
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ftherese |
well it couldn't take as much time as re-entering all the books by hand |
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ftherese |
re-keying them that is |
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ftherese |
ok... another question |
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wizzyrea |
absolutely it won't take as long as that :) |
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chris |
bbiab |
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ftherese |
my library database has a few different "objects" in fact, within filemaker they were split into different databases that are conencted |
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ftherese |
so, one database for the card catalogue... which I imagine is the only thing Marc is concerned with |
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ftherese |
another database full of users and account information |
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wizzyrea |
patrons, good |
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wizzyrea |
circ history? |
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ftherese |
another database filled with the individual books and their identification number |
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wizzyrea |
ah, ok, so bibs, patrons, and item data are all separate |
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ftherese |
yeah... |
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ftherese |
is that pretty straightforward to get into koha? |
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ftherese |
or does koha even deal with all the practicalities of a library |
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ftherese |
like printing the call numbers |
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wizzyrea |
well, in koha each item is a set of (god forgive me, i'm not a cataloger) 952 fields |
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wizzyrea |
yep it does all of that stuff |
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wizzyrea |
so you could map your data (honestly, we only had to deal with exporting the data, we had a team of pros do our actual migration, which I would heartily recommend) |
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ftherese |
when you say item... you are referring to an individual book for example? |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
so in koha, you have a bib record, and you "hang" items in the 952 associated with that bib |
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wizzyrea |
so you have title records with item records attached to it |
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ftherese |
and then you hang patrons on the items? |
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ftherese |
(or you hang the patrons if they don't return the items) |
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wizzyrea |
LOL :) |
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ftherese |
how does the cataloging work? |
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ftherese |
If we have our own cataloging system for example |
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wizzyrea |
a couple of ways, you can do ztarget searches to search for an item by ISBN and pull records from a trusted source, or you can type them in yourself through the interface |
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wizzyrea |
or you can bulk load them |
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ftherese |
sorry... I meant to ask a different question |
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wizzyrea |
hehe ok |
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ftherese |
if we have our own system of "call numbers" |
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wizzyrea |
yep, there's a marc field for that |
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ftherese |
for example... we have a section "A" with a number of books in a number of subcategories |
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ftherese |
then B |
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wizzyrea |
in the item record |
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ftherese |
so it is pretty flexible? |
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ftherese |
you don't have to do Dewey or something I mean |
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wizzyrea |
i believe you can type in whatever call number you want |
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wizzyrea |
(somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that_ |
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ftherese |
combinations of letters and numbers then? |
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wizzyrea |
yesm |
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ftherese |
good... |
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ftherese |
I am starting to feel more at ease... we'll see what happens next |
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wizzyrea |
yay! |
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ftherese |
thanks :) |
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wizzyrea |
but yea, dump your data to some delimited format, then fiddle around with marcedit |
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wizzyrea |
yep, no problem |
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joetho |
ftherese: |
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ftherese |
yes |
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ftherese |
I have another question :) |
23:11 |
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joetho |
yes? |
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ftherese |
I did an install of koha, french language |
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joetho |
yes? |
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ftherese |
first time I visited the site |
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ftherese |
french |
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ftherese |
Now when I visit it English |
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joetho |
which site? |
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ftherese |
my local koha installation |
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joetho |
ah. |
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ftherese |
I can't seem to find anywhere to change the language either |
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joetho |
I believe that is a local preference setting |
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ftherese |
well. the default one should be french |
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ftherese |
as we will be using it in france |
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ftherese |
with primarily french speaking people |
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ftherese |
do you know how to set that? |
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joetho |
I am looking. |
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joetho |
it was in French after you installed it? Correct? |
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ftherese |
correct |
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ftherese |
first time I visited it |
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joetho |
but now it has become English? |
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ftherese |
yes |
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ftherese |
now it is half english half french |
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ftherese |
I remember very clearly that it was totally in french the first time around |
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joetho |
I can't find that preference setting |
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joetho |
Please post this question again |
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joetho |
here in this forum |
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ftherese |
ok |
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joetho |
or add an email address to your question |
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joetho |
so someone can email you a solution |
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ftherese |
what else did you find out... you started messaging me a few min. ago |
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joetho |
about your records |
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joetho |
? |
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joetho |
nicole! |
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nengard |
joetho! |
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joetho |
the cavalry is here! |
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nengard |
uh oh |
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nengard |
what did I miss |
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joetho |
ftherese has a local install |
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joetho |
using french language setting |
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joetho |
worked fine |
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joetho |
but now is half english half french |
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joetho |
?? |
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nengard |
ummmm |
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nengard |
are you saying it just happened? |
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nengard |
something had to have changed? |
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nengard |
was there an upgrade done? |
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joetho |
ftherese- is this in the opac view? |
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nengard |
or a sys pref changed? |
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ftherese |
I am checking the I18N/L10N |
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ftherese |
tab |
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ftherese |
and it looks like everything is set to french |
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ftherese |
but all the tab names and layout comes up in english |
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ftherese |
Patrons |
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ftherese |
Searching |
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ftherese |
Tools |
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joetho |
Hmmm. |
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ftherese |
there is a setting at the bottom of the page |
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ftherese |
opaclanguagesdisplay |
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ftherese |
which is on |
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joetho |
that is the only syspref I am aware of that might help |
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ftherese |
and means that users can modify the language of OPAC |
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ftherese |
but opac is not the problem here I don't think |
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ftherese |
ok... I figured it out |
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ftherese |
my browser had english defined as its default language, and that was overriding the french language setting |
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ftherese |
I think you ought to be able to change the display language without having to change your brower setting though |
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ftherese |
I am also looking for a Z39 server for french books |
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ftherese |
specifically religious ones |
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nengard |
ftherese you might want to document your problems and the way you solved it in a bug report so that maybe someone can make it so that that doesn't happen to others |
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nengard |
I've never heard of such a thing happening before - but it might happen again |
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ftherese |
ok... so do you know anything about the Z39 servers? |
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joetho |
yes, but not in french |
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ftherese |
do you know what you need to authenticate with the zcat.oclc.com server? |
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joetho |
I think you can find z39 servers in france that might be very helpful to you |
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joetho |
hmmm |
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joetho |
actually, that server is on a list of servers I need to set up |
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ftherese |
I am checking the MarcEdit Z39 client |
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joetho |
for our installation here |
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ftherese |
and it has a listing for the zcat.oclc.org database OLUCWorldCat port 210 |
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ftherese |
but it doesn't work for some reason |
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ftherese |
and I am wondering if you need a username and password |
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joetho |
I doubt if you need a username:pw |
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joetho |
whoops |
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joetho |
username and password |
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ftherese |
I get this error |
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ftherese |
zcat.oclc.org:210 rejected our init request |
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joetho |
do any of your other targets work? |
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ftherese |
yeah library of congress and the Oregon State University |
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joetho |
Hmmm. |
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joetho |
the name of the db is OLUCWorldCat ? |
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rhcl is now known as rhcl_out |
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ftherese |
yeah |
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ftherese |
I am wondering if this is the problem: http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipe[…]-July/002484.html |
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ftherese |
if it is, I am stuck because I can't do anything about the charset in MarcEdit |
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ftherese |
there is a receive unicode setting, but it doesn't do anything helpful |
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joetho |
i think we may have the wrong database name |
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ftherese |
ok |
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ftherese |
looks like you need a user name and password |
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ftherese |
http://www.oclc.org/support/do[…]950/config_guide/ |