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|Lupin| |
'd night all |
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rich-away is now known as richard |
| 01:52 |
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brendan |
anybody got any cool looking koha logo's out there -- or changes to the normal koha logo? |
| 01:54 |
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richard |
well all the emails that the creator/approver get now anyway |
| 01:54 |
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richard |
gah |
| 01:54 |
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richard |
wrong # |
| 01:55 |
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richard |
there used to be a wodge of them on the koha site |
| 01:57 |
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brendan |
yeah -- found a few of those |
| 02:00 |
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richard |
try a search on koha in http://katipo.co.nz/gallery |
| 02:00 |
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richard |
there's a few there ... but not many |
| 02:00 |
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brendan |
I see babies :) |
| 02:01 |
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richard |
yeah, lot of fecundity around here |
| 02:01 |
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brendan |
heh |
| 02:07 |
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richard |
brendan - did you get these ones - http://old.koha.org/community/[…]ources/index.html |
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brendan |
yes I have seen those |
| 02:08 |
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richard |
k |
| 02:08 |
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brendan |
just wondering if anyone -- has changed them |
| 02:08 |
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brendan |
just wondering what was out there? |
| 02:09 |
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brendan |
working on a new website and was wondering if I should mess with them -- or go with stock... |
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chris |
hi gmcharlt |
| 02:10 |
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gmcharlt |
hi chris |
| 02:10 |
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gmcharlt |
another day, another airline :/ |
| 02:10 |
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chris |
where you flying to today? |
| 02:11 |
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gmcharlt |
in Chicago coming back from a one day session at UIUC (for library school) |
| 02:11 |
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gmcharlt |
flying home tomorrow morning |
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chris |
ahhh |
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brendan |
heya gmcharlt |
| 02:17 |
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gmcharlt |
hi brendan |
| 02:17 |
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chris |
nz policing at it's finest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2NhQmZ3S6E |
| 02:19 |
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richard |
rofl |
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chris |
yeah "safer communities together" it was awesome, id buy that man a beer |
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chris_n2 |
ouch |
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chris_n2 |
there's a difference between "File->Exit" and the close window button in FF |
| 03:02 |
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* chris_n2 |
just closed a bunch of browser tabs he did not want to :-P |
| 03:13 |
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brendan |
I still type -- git -- when I mean give -- or some other word that starts with g |
| 03:19 |
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chris_n2 |
yeah, I find myself 'gitting' a lot of things |
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|Lupin| |
hi |
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richard |
hi |Lupin| |
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|Lupin| |
hey richard |
| 03:46 |
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richard |
it's a pity the national library of NZ isn't more savvy about having MS Word downloads on their site - but there is a nice mention of Koha here - http://www.natlib.govt.nz/cata[…]rnaby-lianza-2009 |
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brendan |
evening #koha |
| 04:46 |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
| 04:46 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.6�C (9:41 PM PDT on October 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 am PDT Friday... |
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chris_n2 |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 13.0�C (1:19 AM EDT on October 16, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
| 05:39 |
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brendan |
heya chris_n2 |
| 05:39 |
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brendan |
you're another one that stays up late |
| 05:39 |
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chris_n2 |
howdy brendan |
| 05:40 |
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chris_n2 |
tonight is genealogy night |
| 05:40 |
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brendan |
ah |
| 05:40 |
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chris_n2 |
yet anther hobbie |
| 05:40 |
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chris_n2 |
another even |
| 05:40 |
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brendan |
my hobbie -- baseball |
| 05:41 |
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brendan |
over for tonight -- so back to working :) |
| 05:41 |
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chris_n2 |
hehe |
| 05:41 |
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chris_n2 |
I get out with the kids and play occasionally |
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Ropuch |
hi brendan, chris_n2 |
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chris_n2 |
hello Ropuch |
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brendan |
heya Ropuch |
| 05:45 |
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brendan |
how you doing Ropuch |
| 05:48 |
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Ropuch |
Good, thanks |
| 05:48 |
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Ropuch |
I'm about to get my morning coffee |
| 05:49 |
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* chris_n2 |
is pouring the coffee into his eyes at this time of night ;-) |
| 05:49 |
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Ropuch |
It's 7:48 am here ;> |
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chris_n2 |
1:45 am here... |
| 05:50 |
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brendan |
nice enjoy your coffee |
| 05:50 |
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Ropuch |
chris_n2: not that late ;> |
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chris_n2 |
Ropuch: you must be in Europe |
| 05:57 |
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Ropuch |
Yes, I'm in Poland |
| 05:58 |
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Ropuch |
I'm thinking about some 'tool' for uploading custom cover pictures during acquisition |
| 05:59 |
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chris_n2 |
that would be cool |
| 06:01 |
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chris_n2 |
g'night all |
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|Lupin| |
chris: around ? |
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cait |
morning :) |
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|Lupin| |
hi cait :) |
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Ropuch |
Hello |Lupin|, chris_n2-away |
| 06:23 |
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Ropuch |
I mean cait |
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cait |
;) |
| 06:25 |
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cait |
ok, time to go to work, bbl |
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|Lupin| |
bonjour laurence |
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laurence |
hello |Lupin| |
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kf |
morning #koha |
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brendan |
morning kf |
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kf |
morning brendan |
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|Lupin| |
guten tag kf |
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|Lupin| |
hello paul_p |
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| 09:33 |
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ricardo |
Hi all... |
| 09:34 |
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ricardo |
I'm getting a memory leak in a git installation in a Virtual Machine with 256 Megs of RAM :( |
| 09:34 |
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ricardo |
[33279.082924] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 248080 or a child |
| 09:34 |
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ricardo |
[33279.082988] Killed process 4559 (search.pl) |
| 09:35 |
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ricardo |
[33320.859642] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 243699 or a child |
| 09:35 |
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ricardo |
[33320.859642] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 243699 or a child |
| 09:35 |
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ricardo |
[33320.859690] Killed process 4560 (circulation.pl) |
| 09:36 |
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ricardo |
Is anyone having this problem as well? |
| 09:37 |
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ricardo |
(Git Koha installation for Koha 3.0.x branch) |
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hdl_laptop |
not using koha on a VM |
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fredericd |
give more RAM to your VM! |
| 09:43 |
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ricardo |
fredericd: Right... but that costs money in this case :P |
| 09:43 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: OK. Thanks for the info |
| 09:44 |
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ricardo |
fredericd: It's a VPS... In this case, running in "Rackspace Cloud" |
| 09:45 |
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fredericd |
ricardo: I understand... Can you suppress/disable OS services? Have you X11 installed? |
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ricardo |
fredericd: No X11 installed... This is a pretty "clean" Debian 5.0.3 install. I may search for more services, though |
| 09:47 |
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ricardo |
I did have a "SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 2" (or something like that) in the Koha configuration file... I commented it and rebooted the machine, but the problem persists |
| 09:48 |
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hdl_laptop |
ricardo: setenv KOHA_DEBUG 1 |
| 09:48 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: OK. I'll try that. Thanks! :) |
| 09:48 |
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hdl_laptop |
see DebugLevel syspref in Koha |
| 09:48 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Right... |
| 09:48 |
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hdl_laptop |
and set that to 1 |
| 09:48 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Should I set the value in *both* places? In the staff client (web) and in the Koha conf file? |
| 09:49 |
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hdl_laptop |
yes |
| 09:49 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: OK, thanks... I'll do that right now (just finished rebooting the VM) |
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fredericd |
ricardo: 256MB, it's very short. Apache is known to be RAM hungry... You can try a light weight web server like lighthttp, but be prepared to spend time on its config... |
| 09:52 |
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ricardo |
fredericd: Yeah... I have some Apache settings for other machine, that I may try to use. |
| 09:55 |
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ricardo |
All swap used... Yep, I will have to increase RAM for this, even for debugging it... Doing it now |
| 09:56 |
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ricardo |
I did have many processes "search.pl" (that seems strange). I'll have to look into this |
| 09:56 |
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ricardo |
(those processes appeared with "top") |
| 09:59 |
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pastebot |
"ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Output of "top" in a git Koha 3.0.x installation (in a Debian 5.0.3 Virtual Machine)" (24 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/11 |
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nengard |
hdl_laptop around? |
| 11:41 |
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hdl_laptop |
yes |
| 11:41 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi ;) |
| 11:42 |
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nengard |
hdl_laptop was going to say I repllied to your email |
| 11:43 |
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nengard |
but then I saw that i needed to download git for my mac :) hehe - sorry - it's still early and I've been sick and my head is fuzzy |
| 11:43 |
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nengard |
trying that now |
| 11:44 |
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nengard |
nope ... no luck |
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hdl_laptop |
I answered you. |
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nengard |
thanks hdl_laptop - still having issues - installed git - but it says git is not a command it recognizes :( bleh |
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nengard |
gonna try restarting - the readme says I need to log out |
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hdl_laptop |
ok |
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hdl_laptop |
see you then |
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nengard |
hdl_laptop - still no luck :( - will send you my error messages |
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jdavidb |
Morning #koha! :) |
| 11:55 |
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Ropuch |
Hi nengard, jdavidb, hdl_laptop |
| 11:55 |
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nengard |
morning all |
| 11:55 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi Ropuch |
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jwagner |
And good morning everyone |
| 11:56 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi jwagner |
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kf |
good morning |
| 11:57 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi K |
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hdl_laptop |
kf |
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jwagner |
Bonjour and Guten tag |
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nengard |
hiya Nate |
| 12:07 |
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Nate |
hey nicloe |
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Nate |
wow cant type this morning |
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pastebot |
"gGHcPMGdVYjoKomqOU" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "pnTAnfbB" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/12 |
| 12:17 |
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ricardo |
(great... link spam sent through pastebot) |
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chris_n |
wow... koha 3.1 on Strawberry; cool |
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chris_n |
g'morning #koha |
| 12:34 |
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* chris_n |
pours coffee into his keyboard to get his computer going |
| 12:35 |
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ricardo |
chris_n: LOL! |
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jwagner |
chris_n, does your computer LIKE coffee??? |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard: ? |
| 12:51 |
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nengard |
here |
| 12:51 |
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hdl_laptop |
I propose to create the git repository for you. |
| 12:51 |
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ricardo |
Can someone give me hints to debug this: |
| 12:51 |
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nengard |
chris_n i think that will have the reverse effect ... |
| 12:51 |
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ricardo |
Weird characters in titles in OPAC search results for a Koha 3.0.x git installation (records imported by bulkmarcimport.pl) |
| 12:52 |
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hdl_laptop |
Then you could clone that. and copy your stuff into that |
| 12:52 |
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ricardo |
http://twitpic.com/lq6bm |
| 12:52 |
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nengard |
hdl_laptop how do I do that? are there instructions online somewhere? |
| 12:52 |
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ricardo |
... the strange thing is: |
| 12:52 |
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ricardo |
The characters that were weird, in the titles of OPAC search results, appear correctly in the title of OPAC record detail (Koha 3.0.x git, bulkmarcimport) |
| 12:52 |
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ricardo |
http://twitpic.com/lq6iv |
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|Lupin| |
bye all |
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hdl_laptop |
nengard : |
| 12:56 |
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hdl_laptop |
git clone gitosis git.biblibre.com:kohadocs.git Kohadocs |
| 12:56 |
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hdl_laptop |
And then copy your stuff into that directory |
| 12:56 |
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hdl_laptop |
git add |
| 12:56 |
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hdl_laptop |
git commit |
| 12:56 |
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hdl_laptop |
git push |
| 12:57 |
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hdl_laptop |
git add needs some arguments |
| 12:57 |
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hdl_laptop |
keep me tuned |
| 13:07 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Hi again. Do you have any hints that may help me understand the issue I mentioned above? ( http://twitpic.com/lq6bm VS http://twitpic.com/lq6iv ) |
| 13:14 |
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hdl_laptop |
are you using UNIMARC ? XSLTs ? |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: UNIMARC - Yes... XSLTs - I don't think so |
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hdl_laptop |
can you send your marc data ? |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: "Yes, we can" ;-) Do I send it to you by e-mail? |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Just sent you an e-mail with the attached records |
| 13:29 |
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hdl_laptop |
ty |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: No. Thank YOU. :) |
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ricardo |
Lost power in the room... |
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ricardo |
I have a meeting now. Back in 2 hours or so |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, online? |
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wizzyrea |
heya jwagner |
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wizzyrea |
sup |
| 14:26 |
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wizzyrea |
? |
| 14:28 |
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jwagner |
Question for you and everyone else, with regard to my problem of yesterday. What would be the implications of allowing Koha to place holds on titles (e.g., on-order) that do not have items attached? Anything in the code or database that would make this A Bad Idea? |
| 14:28 |
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owen |
My objections would be practical ones for patron interactions. |
| 14:30 |
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jwagner |
Meaning that they might be confused about whether items would be forthcoming? I thought about that -- we have sites that catalog online resources, for example, that will never get items attached and shouldn't get holds. |
| 14:31 |
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jwagner |
(and wizzyrea, thanks for the help yesterday!) |
| 14:31 |
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owen |
Right, that's the specific case I'm thinking of as well: cataloged online resources (entries for web sites) |
| 14:31 |
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owen |
I would also worry about bibliographic records which had accidentally been left behind after all items were deleted |
| 14:32 |
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jwagner |
I can't think of any way to flag _title_ records as to whether they can get holds or not, so the idea may be a nonstarter. But I wanted to investigate further. |
| 14:34 |
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kf |
jwagner: for which cases is it necessary to place holds on titles without items? |
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kf |
ah sorry, acquisition |
| 14:36 |
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jwagner |
It's a particular library's existing workflow -- the old system allowed them to create on-order title records with no items, and to have holds placed. Trying to migrate that data into Koha created lots of hiccups because Koha doesn't like title-no-item holds. I've told them they'll probably need to adjust their workflow to create a dummy item, but since I also come from a system that allowed such holds, I wanted to investigate the possibilities in Koha |
| 14:36 |
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owen |
I could use advice on this error: "[warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]" |
| 14:37 |
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owen |
...after running rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w |
| 14:37 |
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brendan |
owen check the permissions on those directories |
| 14:37 |
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brendan |
cd /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/ |
| 14:38 |
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brendan |
then you'll need to learn about chown |
| 14:38 |
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Colin |
owen: ls -l the norm.LCK file is it the wrong ownership forthe user running zebrasrv or the script |
| 14:38 |
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kf |
jwagner: I think another workflow is to add items when ordering items which will be possible with new acquisition as I understand it |
| 14:38 |
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brendan |
so you'll probaly want to do something like --- chown -R owen:owen /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/ |
| 14:38 |
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brendan |
or whatever the correct sequence is |
| 14:39 |
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kf |
adding items in acquisiton when placing the order... ... its friday |
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jwagner |
kf, yes, thank The Great Pumpkin for Fridays! |
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Colin |
A lot of libraries don't like to create items before receipt but do want holds on forthcoming bestseller |
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* owen |
agrees with Colin |
| 14:41 |
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owen |
...but how to distinguish between those on-order titles and other titles with no holdings? |
| 14:41 |
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kf |
so you will need to flag them as on order |
| 14:41 |
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jwagner |
Colin, yes, that's the situation. I liked wizzyrea's workflow -- creating a dummy item that's marked explicitly as not for loan at the item level. If I understand it, that would prevent holds from being placed _on the dummy item_ but would allow a title level hold. |
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hdl_laptop |
jwagner: nahuel has worked on reserves at biblio level |
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jwagner |
Anything relevant to this situation? |
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hdl_laptop |
mmm. It is not because it is notforloan that you should not be able to reserve a book for reference |
| 14:43 |
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wizzyrea |
it would be cool if there was a true "item quick add" that let you, say, check a box to say, this title is on order, create a not for loan item so that holds may be placed on the bib |
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kf |
ok, I think im to confused today to think about workflows - will start my weekend now :) bye #koha and have a nice weekend |
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wizzyrea |
bye kf |
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wizzyrea |
have a good weekend :) |
| 14:44 |
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jwagner |
bye, kf! |
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wizzyrea |
because, at least in our workflow, there are 4 fields, always the same, that must be set for an on order item |
| 14:45 |
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wizzyrea |
and there's nothing unique about the item. Home branch would be the logged in branch. |
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Colin |
you want the system to also remove the dummy item when the real copies arrive |
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wizzyrea |
right, or you can edit the item to make it an official item |
| 14:46 |
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wizzyrea |
about the same amount of work |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, I wonder if there's anything in, say, one of the 942 subfields that could be used in this manner? For example, one of the 942 subfields is used now as a flag for suppressing display. If there is something unused, maybe it could work like that -- set a flag in the 942 if title-level holds are allowed. |
| 14:46 |
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wizzyrea |
add a barcode, change itypes |
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wizzyrea |
dk, as pianohacker would say, holds/reserves are a giant headache in the code |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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jwagner |
pianohacker is much too refined in his statements. I'd put it a bit more forcefully myself. But this is A Family Show, right? |
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wizzyrea |
haha |
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wizzyrea |
so they were resistant to the whole "add an item" workflow? |
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wizzyrea |
not saying it's the best way (tm) just that it's a way that works (tm) |
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jwagner |
They weren't necessarily resistant, it just came as a bit of a surprise to them. |
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wizzyrea |
(as an aside, I'm always kind of skeptical of doing something simply for the sake of preserving historical workflow, so take my statements with a grain of salt) |
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owen |
skeptical++ |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, been there, done that, got the scars.... |
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wizzyrea |
(I'm of the, "hm, this is how it works for us now, so let's do it this way" school) |
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jwagner |
Trying to convince people to change habits is really tough. |
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wizzyrea |
yep, I imagine |
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wizzyrea |
we're actually pretty lucky, we have nimble minded librarians |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
erm, not that you don't |
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* wizzyrea |
gets out the shovel |
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wizzyrea |
<dig dig dig> |
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* wizzyrea |
's hole is coming along quite nicely |
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Colin |
in many libraries changing workflow is a big political problem |
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jwagner |
Don't dig on MY account. Some are nimble-minded, while others definitely aren't. And there's not much changing them. |
| 14:53 |
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jwagner |
Yep. |
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wizzyrea |
fortunately, in this case I don't think anybody will lose their job over the change ^.^ |
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* wizzyrea |
realizes she's being a bit pig headed this morning |
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jwagner |
pigheaded++ |
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jwagner |
and pigheaded-- when it's library staff not doing what we tell them too.... |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
@karma pigheaded |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Karma for "pigheaded" has been increased 1 time and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 0. |
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Colin |
they are just using their inner creativity |
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jwagner |
inner creativity-- |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, I think you just negative karma'd creativity - how about inner_creativity-- |
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Colin |
Once had a customer who informed us he had a medical condition that meant he couldnt follow instructions |
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wizzyrea |
LOL really!? |
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wizzyrea |
so... um... |
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wizzyrea |
change was very bad, in that situation |
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Colin |
yep. it gave trainers and support staff their own medical conditions |
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wizzyrea |
oi |
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wizzyrea |
guess they never seated him in the emergency exit row on airplanes |
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Colin |
I hope not |
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owen |
Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;) |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;) |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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wizzyrea |
DOH |
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jwagner |
It does if he gets punched out for it! |
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wizzyrea |
oh snap! |
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jwagner |
@quote add owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;) |
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munin |
jwagner: The operation succeeded. Quote #41 added. |
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owen |
Okay...Seems like Zebra is refusing to start, but not giving an error. |
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owen |
It says "Starting Zebra Server" and "Starting Zebraqueue Daemon" when I run those commands |
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wizzyrea |
oh ty jwagner |
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wizzyrea |
it doesn't do anything? |
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wizzyrea |
just sits there? |
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owen |
it doesn't give any additional output. Should it? |
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wizzyrea |
nope, that means it's running |
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wizzyrea |
if you stop it, ctrl-c, then start it again, put a & at the end |
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wizzyrea |
then hit enter and it should give you your prompt baack |
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wizzyrea |
so <zebra start command> & |
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wizzyrea |
(can't remember what it is0 |
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owen |
Here's what I'm following in the install guide: sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start |
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owen |
and: sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh start |
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wizzyrea |
yep, put a & at the end, it should leave the daemon running |
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wizzyrea |
and give you your prompt back |
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owen |
Both of those commands give me the "Starting..." message and return me to the command prompt. |
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brendan |
owen -- can you find where your zebrasrv directory is |
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brendan |
the reason I ask is --- if you open the koha-zebra-ctl.sh file |
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brendan |
it should say where it's looking for the zebrasrv |
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brendan |
I mean looking at -- as in -- vim koha-zebra-ctl.sh |
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* wizzyrea |
is ashamed to be a nano fan |
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* owen |
appreciates that the install guide suggests nano |
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brendan |
Oh yeah -- owen |
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brendan |
make sure to use the koha-dev one -- not the kohaclone one |
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owen |
Yeah |
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brendan |
ok so when you vim -- that file |
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brendan |
you should see something near to the top like this |
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brendan |
ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv |
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brendan |
what does yours say? |
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owen |
The same |
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brendan |
ok -- that should be good then |
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brendan |
ps -aef | grep zebrasrv |
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brendan |
return much ? |
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owen |
Nope: oleonard 7586 3908 0 11:24 pts/0 00:00:00 grep zebrasrv |
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brendan |
so zebrasrv -- is not running |
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brendan |
can you do a locate zebrasrv |
| 15:27 |
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brendan |
or - whereis zebrasrv |
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owen |
/etc/alternatives/zebrasrv and /usr/bin/zebrasrv |
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owen |
Looks like /usr/bin/zebrasrv is actually pointing to /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv |
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brendan |
hmm... |
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brendan |
ok on the koha-zebra-ctl.sh file |
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brendan |
in that top section -- does the user, group, dbname -- all match your information |
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brendan |
and the ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv |
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brendan |
(we could try and change that to /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv ) -- quickly and start zebra (if that doesn't do the trick) put it back in |
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chris_n |
owen: sudo ps -ef | grep zebra |
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chris_n |
opps |
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* chris_n |
should read before he leaps :-\ |
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chris_n |
zebra is always a pain to get running; the installer needs to be fixed to set the permissions correctly iirc |
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brendan |
true that |
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brendan |
when I first began with zebrasrv (I had such troubles) I just ran it on screen |
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chris_n |
owen: your koha user needs to own everything from /home/oleonard/koha-dev and below |
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chris_n |
so maybe something like 'sudo chown -R koha:koha /home/oleonard/koha-dev' |
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* chris_n |
says nice things to his zebra so it will keep running |
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owen |
Doing so doesn't change the outcome of " ./koha-zebra-ctl.sh start" |
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brendan |
ok good luck owen |
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brendan |
I'm off for the day -- going to see the dodgers |
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brendan |
bye #koha |
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owen |
Thanks brendan |
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Colin |
if you run the zebrasrv command in koha-zerbra-ctl.sh on the commandline with -l filename you may get some info in filename |
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chris_n |
owen: 'su koha' and then start it |
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chris_n |
if it is assigned to the correct run level, I think it should start on a reboot ok |
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* wizzyrea |
is glad to read this discussion of zebra starting woes... she feels less dumb now |
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owen |
Hmmm... "sudo ps -ef | grep zebra" is showing more promising results, but I'm not getting anything when searching |
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wizzyrea |
did you build the indexes? |
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wizzyrea |
(i'm assuming you did) |
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owen |
./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w |
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wizzyrea |
i believe that's the one |
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wizzyrea |
(this is definitely the trickiest part of the koha install experience, I think) |
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owen |
Hmmm... chris_n looks like you were right. After a restart Zebra is running |
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owen |
Returning results that is. Only now 30 seconds later it isn't. |
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wizzyrea |
WIN! ... FAIL! |
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owen |
Hm, wait, it seems keyword searching is working, itemtype searching isn't |
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owen |
No, never mind, that's a data problem not a Zebra problem. |
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owen |
So, WIN FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES! Which isn't very catchy. |
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wizzyrea |
hehehe |
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wizzyrea |
here's a distraction as a reward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWi7CLoZ2Q |
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chris_n |
owen: glad you got your zebra kicking... ;-) |
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heads off in search of food |
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Ropuch |
Good evening |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: around ? |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: briefly |
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chris_n |
it must be Friday, everyone is quitting |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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chris |
heh |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: must have missed your brief apparition |
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Ropuch |
Does translating intranet on friday night make me a freak? |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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wizzyrea |
nah :) |
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Ropuch |
(mitigating circumstances: i have a beer) |
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Ropuch |
I've received a proposition to speak about Koha on some Open Solaris & open source in small and medium enterprises conf |
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chris |
excellent |
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pianohackr|work |
hi, wizzyrea, Ropuch, chris |
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Ropuch |
Hi pianohackr|work |
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sekjal |
my aqorders table isn't getting the totalamount fields filled in at any point in the acquisitions process? |
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sekjal |
is this normal? |
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Ropuch |
Let me see mine |
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sekjal |
I've build a cronjob to make payments, and I can't seem to get what we actually have to pay |
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Ropuch |
Yup |
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Ropuch |
I have NULLs all the way |
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sekjal |
I'm also finding that my aqorderbreakdown and aqorderdelivery tables clear themselves out when an order is received |
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Ropuch |
But i can check the item price and have it included in Funds & Budget |
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wizzyrea |
oh hi PH |
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Ropuch |
Hello wizzyrea |
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Ropuch |
...after little brak ;> |
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Ropuch |
s/brak/break |
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* chris |
has to go, bbiab |
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wizzyrea |
byeeee |
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pianohackr|work |
cya |
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pianohackr|work |
wizzyrea: what's keeping you busy these days? |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.mykansaslibrary.org -- getting ready for 2.8 upgrade |
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wizzyrea |
160 sites (give or take) |
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wizzyrea |
that's wordpress 2.8 |
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wizzyrea |
trying to figure out if I can move them all to MU and still have them work, in an easy fashion |
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wizzyrea |
that would make these updates a whole lot more trivial |
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wizzyrea |
when I did it the first time, MU didn't exist |
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wizzyrea |
er, when I started |
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wizzyrea |
the projec |
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wizzyrea |
project |
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pianohackr|work |
server administration, fun fun |
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sekjal |
last time I was in that codebase, MU was pretty much just a wrapper around regular Wordpress... |
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sekjal |
shouldn't be impossible to migrate them all |
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pianohackr|work |
doing some of that myself |
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sekjal |
pleasant? probably not |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal-- yea, it's nearly unmanageable the way it is now |
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wizzyrea |
but we have some gorgeous sites on the project |
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wizzyrea |
www.hiawathalibrary.org |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
sigh |
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pianohackr|work |
that there's the purtiest error message I ever did see |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
indeed |
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wizzyrea |
ok NOW it's working |
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wizzyrea |
3 years, and that's the first time I've had THAT happen. sheesh. |
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wizzyrea |
natch at 4pm on a friday afternoon |
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pianohackr|wor1 |
that is nice |
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wizzyrea |
www.bonnerlibrary.org |
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wizzyrea |
also a good one |
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Ropuch |
Flue information is... cute ;> |
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hdl_laptop |
later tell ricardo here is my results from my import of your data http://imagebin.ca/view/yHRrkK82.html |
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hdl_laptop |
@later tell ricardo here is my results from my import of your data http://imagebin.ca/view/yHRrkK82.html |
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munin |
hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
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hdl_laptop |
@later tell ricardo you can see it is ok on my box |
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munin |
hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
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hdl_laptop |
@later tell ricardo i used 3.0.x with your command |
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munin |
hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
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hdl_laptop |
@later tell ricardo could be a problem in your systempreferences |
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munin |
hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
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hdl_laptop |
@later tell ricardo or the fact your code is not uptodate |
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munin |
hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
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sekjal |
yargh. wish I could hold off making payments until Koha 3.2 drops.... this is proving quite frustrating |
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sekjal |
I'll look at it more tomorrow |
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sekjal |
time for the train |
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pianohackr|wor1 |
see ya |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 11:31 PM, September 02, 2009) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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wizzyrea: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 09:37 PM, July 17, 2009) |
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@quote random |
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wizzyrea: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 11:27 PM, October 04, 2009) |
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oof |
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@quote random |
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wizzyrea: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) |
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thinks wizzyrea holds the record on quotes ;-) |
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