IRC log for #koha, 2009-10-16

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00:02 |Lupin| 'd night all
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01:52 brendan anybody got any cool looking koha logo's out there -- or changes to the normal koha logo?
01:54 richard well all the emails that the creator/approver get now anyway
01:54 richard gah
01:54 richard wrong #
01:55 richard there used to be a wodge of them on the koha site
01:57 brendan yeah -- found a few of those
02:00 richard try a search on koha in
02:00 richard there's a few there ... but not many
02:00 brendan I see babies :)
02:01 richard yeah, lot of fecundity around here
02:01 brendan heh
02:07 richard brendan - did you get these ones -[…]ources/index.html
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02:08 brendan yes I have seen those
02:08 richard k
02:08 brendan just wondering if anyone -- has changed them
02:08 brendan just wondering what was out there?
02:09 brendan working on a new website and was wondering if I should mess with them  -- or go with stock...
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02:10 chris hi gmcharlt
02:10 gmcharlt hi chris
02:10 gmcharlt another day, another airline :/
02:10 chris where you flying to today?
02:11 gmcharlt in Chicago coming back from a one day session at UIUC (for library school)
02:11 gmcharlt flying home tomorrow morning
02:11 chris ahhh
02:15 brendan heya gmcharlt
02:17 gmcharlt hi brendan
02:17 chris nz policing at it's finest
02:19 richard rofl
02:19 chris yeah "safer communities together" it was awesome, id buy that man a beer
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03:01 chris_n2 ouch
03:02 chris_n2 there's a difference between "File->Exit" and the close window button in FF
03:02 * chris_n2 just closed a bunch of browser tabs he did not want to :-P
03:13 brendan I still type -- git -- when I mean give -- or some other word that starts with g
03:19 chris_n2 yeah, I find myself 'gitting' a lot of things
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03:35 |Lupin| hi
03:45 richard hi |Lupin|
03:45 |Lupin| hey richard
03:46 richard it's a pity the national library of NZ isn't more savvy about having MS Word downloads on their site - but there is a nice mention of Koha here -[…]rnaby-lianza-2009
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04:36 brendan evening #koha
04:46 brendan @wunder 93117
04:46 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.6�C (9:41 PM PDT on October 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 am PDT Friday...
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05:39 chris_n2 @wunder 28334
05:39 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 13.0�C (1:19 AM EDT on October 16, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
05:39 brendan heya chris_n2
05:39 brendan you're another one that stays up late
05:39 chris_n2 howdy brendan
05:40 chris_n2 tonight is genealogy night
05:40 brendan ah
05:40 chris_n2 yet anther hobbie
05:40 chris_n2 another even
05:40 brendan my hobbie -- baseball
05:41 brendan over for tonight -- so back to working :)
05:41 chris_n2 hehe
05:41 chris_n2 I get out with the kids and play occasionally
05:44 Ropuch hi brendan, chris_n2
05:44 chris_n2 hello Ropuch
05:44 brendan heya Ropuch
05:45 brendan how you doing Ropuch
05:48 Ropuch Good, thanks
05:48 Ropuch I'm about to get my morning coffee
05:49 * chris_n2 is pouring the coffee into his eyes at this time of night ;-)
05:49 Ropuch It's 7:48 am here ;>
05:50 chris_n2 1:45 am here...
05:50 brendan nice enjoy your coffee
05:50 Ropuch chris_n2: not that late ;>
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05:54 chris_n2 Ropuch: you must be in Europe
05:57 Ropuch Yes, I'm in Poland
05:58 Ropuch I'm thinking about some 'tool' for uploading custom cover pictures during acquisition
05:59 chris_n2 that would be cool
06:01 chris_n2 g'night all
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06:18 |Lupin| chris: around ?
06:20 cait morning :)
06:20 |Lupin| hi cait :)
06:23 Ropuch Hello |Lupin|, chris_n2-away
06:23 Ropuch I mean cait
06:25 cait ;)
06:25 cait ok, time to go to work, bbl
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06:43 |Lupin| bonjour laurence
06:44 laurence hello |Lupin|
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06:52 kf morning #koha
06:52 brendan morning kf
06:53 kf morning brendan
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06:54 |Lupin| guten tag kf
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07:17 |Lupin| hello paul_p
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09:33 ricardo Hi all...
09:34 ricardo I'm getting a memory leak in a git installation in a Virtual Machine with 256 Megs of RAM  :(
09:34 ricardo [33279.082924] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 248080 or a child
09:34 ricardo [33279.082988] Killed process 4559 (
09:35 ricardo [33320.859642] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 243699 or a child
09:35 ricardo [33320.859642] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 243699 or a child
09:35 ricardo [33320.859690] Killed process 4560 (
09:36 ricardo Is anyone having this problem as well?
09:37 ricardo (Git Koha installation for Koha 3.0.x branch)
09:43 hdl_laptop not using koha on a VM
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09:43 fredericd give more RAM to your VM!
09:43 ricardo fredericd: Right... but that costs money in this case  :P
09:43 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK. Thanks for the info
09:44 ricardo fredericd: It's a VPS... In this case, running in "Rackspace Cloud"
09:45 fredericd ricardo: I understand... Can you suppress/disable OS services? Have you X11 installed?
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09:46 ricardo fredericd: No X11 installed... This is a pretty "clean" Debian 5.0.3 install. I may search for more services, though
09:47 ricardo I did have a "SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 2" (or something like that) in the Koha configuration file... I commented it and rebooted the machine, but the problem persists
09:48 hdl_laptop ricardo: setenv KOHA_DEBUG 1
09:48 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK. I'll try that. Thanks!  :)
09:48 hdl_laptop see DebugLevel syspref in Koha
09:48 ricardo hdl_laptop: Right...
09:48 hdl_laptop and set that to 1
09:48 ricardo hdl_laptop: Should I set the value in *both* places? In the staff client (web) and in the Koha conf file?
09:49 hdl_laptop yes
09:49 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK, thanks... I'll do that right now (just finished rebooting the VM)
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09:50 fredericd ricardo: 256MB, it's very short. Apache is known to be RAM hungry... You can try a light weight web server like lighthttp, but be prepared to spend time on its config...
09:52 ricardo fredericd: Yeah... I have some Apache settings for other machine, that I may try to use.
09:55 ricardo All swap used... Yep, I will have to increase RAM for this, even for debugging it... Doing it now
09:56 ricardo I did have many processes "" (that seems strange). I'll have to look into this
09:56 ricardo (those processes appeared with "top")
09:59 pastebot "ricardo" at pasted "Output of "top" in a git Koha 3.0.x installation (in a Debian 5.0.3 Virtual Machine)" (24 lines) at
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11:40 nengard hdl_laptop around?
11:41 hdl_laptop yes
11:41 hdl_laptop hi ;)
11:42 nengard hdl_laptop was going to say I repllied to your email
11:43 nengard but then I saw that i needed to download git for my mac :) hehe - sorry - it's still early and I've been sick and my head is fuzzy
11:43 nengard trying that now
11:44 nengard nope ... no luck
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11:46 hdl_laptop I answered you.
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11:50 nengard thanks hdl_laptop - still having issues - installed git - but it says git is not a command it recognizes :( bleh
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11:51 nengard gonna try restarting - the readme says I need to log out
11:51 hdl_laptop ok
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11:51 hdl_laptop see you then
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11:54 nengard hdl_laptop - still no luck :( - will send you my error messages
11:54 jdavidb Morning #koha! :)
11:55 Ropuch Hi nengard, jdavidb, hdl_laptop
11:55 nengard morning all
11:55 hdl_laptop hi Ropuch
11:55 jwagner And good morning everyone
11:56 hdl_laptop hi jwagner
11:57 kf good morning
11:57 hdl_laptop hi K
11:57 hdl_laptop kf
11:59 jwagner Bonjour and Guten tag
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12:07 nengard hiya Nate
12:07 Nate hey nicloe
12:08 Nate wow cant type this morning
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12:16 pastebot "gGHcPMGdVYjoKomqOU" at pasted "pnTAnfbB" (1 line) at
12:17 ricardo (great... link spam sent through pastebot)
12:32 chris_n wow... koha 3.1 on Strawberry; cool
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12:34 chris_n g'morning #koha
12:34 * chris_n pours coffee into his keyboard to get his computer going
12:35 ricardo chris_n: LOL!
12:47 jwagner chris_n, does your computer LIKE coffee???
12:51 hdl_laptop nengard: ?
12:51 nengard here
12:51 hdl_laptop I propose to create the git repository for you.
12:51 ricardo Can someone give me hints to debug this:
12:51 nengard chris_n i think that will have the reverse effect ...
12:51 ricardo Weird characters in titles in OPAC search results for a Koha 3.0.x git installation (records imported by
12:52 hdl_laptop Then you could clone that. and copy your stuff into that
12:52 ricardo
12:52 nengard hdl_laptop how do I do that? are there instructions online somewhere?
12:52 ricardo ... the strange thing is:
12:52 ricardo The characters that were weird, in the titles of OPAC search results, appear correctly in the title of OPAC record detail (Koha 3.0.x git, bulkmarcimport)
12:52 ricardo
12:54 |Lupin| bye all
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12:55 hdl_laptop nengard :
12:56 hdl_laptop git clone Kohadocs
12:56 hdl_laptop And then copy your stuff into that directory
12:56 hdl_laptop git add
12:56 hdl_laptop git commit
12:56 hdl_laptop git push
12:57 hdl_laptop git add needs some arguments
12:57 hdl_laptop keep me tuned
13:07 ricardo hdl_laptop: Hi again. Do you have any hints that may help me understand the issue I mentioned above? (  VS )
13:14 hdl_laptop are you using UNIMARC ? XSLTs ?
13:15 ricardo hdl_laptop: UNIMARC - Yes... XSLTs - I don't think so
13:15 hdl_laptop can you send your marc data ?
13:16 ricardo hdl_laptop: "Yes, we can"  ;-)  Do I send it to you by e-mail?
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13:29 ricardo hdl_laptop: Just sent you an e-mail with the attached records
13:29 hdl_laptop ty
13:29 ricardo hdl_laptop: No. Thank YOU.  :)
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13:55 ricardo Lost power in the room...
13:56 ricardo I have a meeting now. Back in 2 hours or so
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14:18 jwagner wizzyrea, online?
14:26 wizzyrea heya jwagner
14:26 wizzyrea sup
14:26 wizzyrea ?
14:28 jwagner Question for you and everyone else, with regard to my problem of yesterday.  What would be the implications of allowing Koha to place holds on titles (e.g., on-order) that do not have items attached?  Anything in the code or database that would make this A Bad Idea?
14:28 owen My objections would be practical ones for patron interactions.
14:30 jwagner Meaning that they might be confused about whether items would be forthcoming?  I thought about that -- we have sites that catalog online resources, for example, that will never get items attached and shouldn't get holds.
14:31 jwagner (and wizzyrea, thanks for the help yesterday!)
14:31 owen Right, that's the specific case I'm thinking of as well: cataloged online resources (entries for web sites)
14:31 owen I would also worry about bibliographic records which had accidentally been left behind after all items were deleted
14:32 jwagner I can't think of any way to flag _title_ records as to whether they can get holds or not, so the idea may be a nonstarter.  But I wanted to investigate further.
14:34 kf jwagner: for which cases is it necessary to place holds on titles without items?
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14:35 kf ah sorry, acquisition
14:36 jwagner It's a particular library's existing workflow -- the old system allowed them to create on-order title records with no items, and to have holds placed.  Trying to migrate that data into Koha created lots of hiccups because Koha doesn't like title-no-item holds.  I've told them they'll probably need to adjust their workflow to create a dummy item, but since I also come from a system that allowed such holds, I wanted to investigate the possibilities in Koha
14:36 owen I could use advice on this error: "[warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/va​r/lock/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]"
14:37 owen ...after running -b -w
14:37 brendan owen check the permissions on those directories
14:37 brendan cd /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/
14:38 brendan then you'll need to learn about chown
14:38 Colin owen: ls -l the norm.LCK file is it the wrong ownership forthe user running zebrasrv or the script
14:38 kf jwagner: I think another workflow is to add items when ordering items which will be possible with new acquisition as I understand it
14:38 brendan so you'll probaly want to do something like --- chown -R owen:owen /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/
14:38 brendan or whatever the correct sequence is
14:39 kf adding items in acquisiton when placing the order... ... its friday
14:39 jwagner kf, yes, thank The Great Pumpkin for Fridays!
14:40 Colin A lot of libraries don't like to create items before receipt but do want holds on forthcoming bestseller
14:40 * owen agrees with Colin
14:41 owen ...but how to distinguish between those on-order titles and other titles with no holdings?
14:41 kf so you will need to flag them as on order
14:41 jwagner Colin, yes, that's the situation.  I liked wizzyrea's workflow -- creating a dummy item that's marked explicitly as not for loan at the item level.  If I understand it, that would prevent holds from being placed _on the dummy item_ but would allow a title level hold.
14:42 hdl_laptop jwagner: nahuel has worked on reserves at biblio level
14:42 jwagner Anything relevant to this situation?
14:43 hdl_laptop mmm. It is not because it is notforloan that you should not be able to reserve a book for reference
14:43 wizzyrea it would be cool if there was a true "item quick add" that let you, say, check a box to say, this title is on order, create a not for loan item so that holds may be placed on the bib
14:44 kf ok, I think im to confused today to think about workflows - will start my weekend now :) bye #koha and have a nice weekend
14:44 wizzyrea bye kf
14:44 wizzyrea have a good weekend :)
14:44 jwagner bye, kf!
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14:45 wizzyrea because, at least in our workflow, there are 4 fields, always the same, that must be set for an on order item
14:45 wizzyrea and there's nothing unique about the item. Home branch would be the logged in branch.
14:46 Colin you want the system to also remove the dummy item when the real copies arrive
14:46 wizzyrea right, or you can edit the item to make it an official item
14:46 wizzyrea about the same amount of work
14:46 jwagner wizzyrea, I wonder if there's anything in, say, one of the 942 subfields that could be used in this manner?  For example, one of the 942 subfields is used now as a flag for suppressing display.  If there is something unused, maybe it could work like that -- set a flag in the 942 if title-level holds are allowed.
14:46 wizzyrea add a barcode, change itypes
14:47 wizzyrea dk, as pianohacker would say, holds/reserves are a giant headache in the code
14:47 wizzyrea :(
14:47 jwagner pianohacker is much too refined in his statements.  I'd put it a bit more forcefully myself.  But this is A Family Show, right?
14:48 wizzyrea haha
14:48 wizzyrea so they were resistant to the whole "add an item" workflow?
14:48 wizzyrea not saying it's the best way (tm) just that it's a way that works (tm)
14:49 jwagner They weren't necessarily resistant, it just came as a bit of a surprise to them.
14:50 wizzyrea (as an aside, I'm always kind of skeptical of doing something simply for the sake of preserving historical workflow, so take my statements with a grain of salt)
14:50 owen skeptical++
14:50 jwagner wizzyrea, been there, done that, got the scars....
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14:51 wizzyrea (I'm of the, "hm, this is how it works for us now, so let's do it this way" school)
14:51 jwagner Trying to convince people to change habits is really tough.
14:51 wizzyrea yep, I imagine
14:51 wizzyrea we're actually pretty lucky, we have nimble minded librarians
14:51 wizzyrea :)
14:51 wizzyrea erm, not that you don't
14:51 * wizzyrea gets out the shovel
14:52 wizzyrea <dig dig dig>
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14:52 * wizzyrea 's hole is coming along quite nicely
14:52 Colin in many libraries changing workflow is a big political problem
14:52 jwagner Don't dig on MY account.  Some are nimble-minded, while others definitely aren't.  And there's not much changing them.
14:53 jwagner Yep.
14:54 wizzyrea fortunately, in this case I don't think anybody will lose their job over the change ^.^
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14:59 * wizzyrea realizes she's being a bit pig headed this morning
15:00 jwagner pigheaded++
15:00 jwagner and pigheaded-- when it's library staff not doing what we tell them too....
15:00 wizzyrea lol
15:01 wizzyrea @karma pigheaded
15:01 munin wizzyrea: Karma for "pigheaded" has been increased 1 time and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 0.
15:01 Colin they are just using their inner creativity
15:05 jwagner inner creativity--
15:05 wizzyrea ooh, I think you just negative karma'd creativity - how about inner_creativity--
15:08 Colin Once had a customer who informed us he had a medical condition that meant he couldnt follow instructions
15:08 wizzyrea LOL really!?
15:09 wizzyrea so... um...
15:09 wizzyrea change was very bad, in that situation
15:09 Colin yep. it gave trainers and support staff their own medical conditions
15:10 wizzyrea oi
15:10 wizzyrea guess they never seated him in the emergency exit row on airplanes
15:11 Colin I hope not
15:12 owen Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;)
15:13 wizzyrea @quote add owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;)
15:13 munin wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
15:13 wizzyrea DOH
15:13 jwagner It does if he gets punched out for it!
15:13 wizzyrea oh snap!
15:14 jwagner @quote add owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;)
15:14 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded.  Quote #41 added.
15:15 owen Okay...Seems like Zebra is refusing to start, but not giving an error.
15:16 owen It says "Starting Zebra Server" and "Starting Zebraqueue Daemon" when I run those commands
15:16 wizzyrea oh ty jwagner
15:16 wizzyrea it doesn't do anything?
15:16 wizzyrea just sits there?
15:17 owen it doesn't give any additional output. Should it?
15:17 wizzyrea nope, that means it's running
15:17 wizzyrea if you stop it, ctrl-c, then start it again, put a & at the end
15:17 wizzyrea then hit enter and it should give you your prompt baack
15:18 wizzyrea so <zebra start command> &
15:18 wizzyrea (can't remember what it is0
15:19 owen Here's what I'm following in the install guide: sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/ start
15:19 owen and: sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/ start
15:19 wizzyrea yep, put a & at the end, it should leave the daemon running
15:19 wizzyrea and give you your prompt back
15:19 owen Both of those commands give me the "Starting..." message and return me to the command prompt.
15:19 brendan owen -- can you find where your zebrasrv directory is
15:20 brendan the reason I ask is --- if you open the file
15:20 brendan it should say where it's looking for the zebrasrv
15:21 brendan I mean looking at -- as in --    vim
15:21 * wizzyrea is ashamed to be a nano fan
15:21 * owen appreciates that the install guide suggests nano
15:22 brendan Oh yeah -- owen
15:22 brendan make sure to use the koha-dev one -- not the kohaclone one
15:22 owen Yeah
15:22 brendan ok so when you vim -- that file
15:23 brendan you should see something near to the top like this
15:23 brendan ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv
15:23 brendan what does yours say?
15:23 owen The same
15:24 brendan ok -- that should be good then
15:25 brendan ps -aef | grep zebrasrv
15:25 brendan return much ?
15:25 owen Nope: oleonard  7586  3908  0 11:24 pts/0    00:00:00 grep zebrasrv
15:26 brendan so zebrasrv -- is not running
15:26 brendan can you do a locate zebrasrv
15:27 brendan or - whereis zebrasrv
15:27 owen /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv and /usr/bin/zebrasrv
15:27 owen Looks like /usr/bin/zebrasrv is actually pointing to /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv
15:28 brendan hmm...
15:28 brendan ok on the file
15:29 brendan in that top section -- does the user, group, dbname -- all match your information
15:29 brendan and the ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv
15:30 brendan (we could try and change that to /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv )  -- quickly and start zebra (if that doesn't do the trick) put it back in
15:33 chris_n owen: sudo ps -ef | grep zebra
15:33 chris_n opps
15:33 * chris_n should read before he leaps :-\
15:34 chris_n zebra is always a pain to get running; the installer needs to be fixed to set the permissions correctly iirc
15:35 brendan true that
15:36 brendan when I first began with zebrasrv (I had such troubles) I just ran it on screen
15:38 chris_n owen: your koha user needs to own everything from /home/oleonard/koha-dev and below
15:38 chris_n so maybe something like 'sudo chown -R koha:koha /home/oleonard/koha-dev'
15:39 * chris_n says nice things to his zebra so it will keep running
15:41 owen Doing so doesn't change the outcome of " ./ start"
15:43 brendan ok good luck owen
15:43 brendan I'm off for the day -- going to see the dodgers
15:43 brendan bye #koha
15:43 owen Thanks brendan
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15:44 Colin if you run the zebrasrv command in on the commandline with -l filename you may get some info in filename
15:46 chris_n owen: 'su koha' and then start it
15:48 chris_n if it is assigned to the correct run level, I think it should start on a reboot ok
15:58 * wizzyrea is glad to read this discussion of zebra starting woes... she feels less dumb now
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16:11 owen Hmmm... "sudo ps -ef | grep zebra" is showing more promising results, but I'm not getting anything when searching
16:13 wizzyrea did you build the indexes?
16:13 wizzyrea (i'm assuming you did)
16:16 owen ./ -b -w
16:19 wizzyrea i believe that's the one
16:20 wizzyrea (this is definitely the trickiest part of the koha install experience, I think)
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16:42 owen Hmmm... chris_n looks like you were right. After a restart Zebra is running
16:45 owen Returning results that is. Only now 30 seconds later it isn't.
16:46 wizzyrea WIN! ... FAIL!
16:49 owen Hm, wait, it seems keyword searching is working, itemtype searching isn't
16:50 owen No, never mind, that's a data problem not a Zebra problem.
16:51 owen So, WIN FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES! Which isn't very catchy.
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16:56 wizzyrea hehehe
16:57 wizzyrea here's a distraction as a reward:
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17:00 chris_n owen: glad you got your zebra kicking... ;-)
17:01 owen is now known as owen-away
17:01 * chris_n heads off in search of food
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17:24 Ropuch Good evening
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18:49 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: around ?
18:49 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: briefly
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19:59 chris_n it must be Friday, everyone is quitting
20:01 wizzyrea :D
20:01 chris heh
20:01 Ropuch ;>
20:02 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: must have missed your brief apparition
20:03 Ropuch Does translating intranet on friday night make me a freak?
20:03 Ropuch ;>
20:05 wizzyrea nah :)
20:06 Ropuch (mitigating circumstances: i have a beer)
20:10 Ropuch I've received a proposition to speak about Koha on some Open Solaris & open source in small and medium enterprises conf
20:26 chris excellent
20:27 pianohackr|work hi, wizzyrea, Ropuch, chris
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20:34 Ropuch Hi pianohackr|work
20:35 sekjal my aqorders table isn't getting the totalamount fields filled in at any point in the acquisitions process?
20:35 sekjal is this normal?
20:37 Ropuch Let me see mine
20:38 sekjal I've build a cronjob to make payments, and I can't seem to get what we actually have to pay
20:38 Ropuch Yup
20:38 Ropuch I have NULLs all the way
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20:39 sekjal I'm also finding that my aqorderbreakdown and aqorderdelivery tables clear themselves out when an order is received
20:39 Ropuch But i can check the item price and have it included in Funds & Budget
20:39 wizzyrea oh hi PH
20:40 Ropuch Hello wizzyrea
20:40 Ropuch ...after little brak ;>
20:40 Ropuch s/brak/break
20:42 * chris has to go, bbiab
20:42 wizzyrea byeeee
20:42 pianohackr|work cya
20:43 pianohackr|work wizzyrea: what's keeping you busy these days?
20:43 wizzyrea -- getting ready for 2.8 upgrade
20:43 wizzyrea 160 sites (give or take)
20:44 wizzyrea that's wordpress 2.8
20:44 wizzyrea trying to figure out if I can move them all to MU and still have them work, in an easy fashion
20:45 wizzyrea that would make these updates a whole lot more trivial
20:45 wizzyrea when I did it the first time, MU didn't exist
20:45 wizzyrea er, when I started
20:45 wizzyrea the projec
20:45 wizzyrea project
20:45 pianohackr|work server administration, fun fun
20:45 sekjal last time I was in that codebase, MU was pretty much just a wrapper around regular Wordpress...
20:45 sekjal shouldn't be impossible to migrate them all
20:45 pianohackr|work doing some of that myself
20:45 sekjal pleasant?  probably not
20:46 wizzyrea sekjal-- yea, it's nearly unmanageable the way it is now
20:46 wizzyrea but we have some gorgeous sites on the project
20:46 wizzyrea
20:47 wizzyrea lol
20:47 wizzyrea sigh
20:47 pianohackr|work that there's the purtiest error message I ever did see
20:48 wizzyrea heh
20:48 wizzyrea indeed
20:50 wizzyrea ok NOW it's working
20:50 wizzyrea 3 years, and that's the first time I've had THAT happen. sheesh.
20:51 wizzyrea natch at 4pm on a friday afternoon
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20:52 pianohackr|wor1 that is nice
20:56 wizzyrea
20:56 wizzyrea also a good one
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21:02 Ropuch Flue information is... cute ;>
21:04 hdl_laptop later tell ricardo here is my results from my import of your data
21:04 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo here is my results from my import of your data
21:04 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded.
21:05 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo you can see it is ok on my box
21:05 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded.
21:05 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo i used 3.0.x with your command
21:05 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded.
21:05 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo could be a problem in your systempreferences
21:05 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded.
21:06 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo or the fact your code is not uptodate
21:06 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded.
21:10 sekjal yargh.  wish I could hold off making payments until Koha 3.2 drops.... this is proving quite frustrating
21:13 sekjal I'll look at it more tomorrow
21:13 sekjal time for the train
21:13 pianohackr|wor1 see ya
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21:25 wizzyrea @quote random
21:25 munin wizzyrea: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 11:31 PM, September 02, 2009)
21:26 wizzyrea hehe
21:26 wizzyrea @quote random
21:26 munin wizzyrea: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 09:37 PM, July 17, 2009)
21:26 wizzyrea @quote random
21:26 munin wizzyrea: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 11:27 PM, October 04, 2009)
21:26 wizzyrea oof
21:26 wizzyrea @quote random
21:26 munin wizzyrea: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009)
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21:57 * chris_n2-away thinks wizzyrea holds the record on quotes ;-)
22:56 pianohackr|work see you all tomorrow
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