Time Nick Message 22:56 pianohackr|work see you all tomorrow 21:57 * chris_n2-away thinks wizzyrea holds the record on quotes ;-) 21:26 munin wizzyrea: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) 21:26 wizzyrea @quote random 21:26 wizzyrea oof 21:26 munin wizzyrea: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 11:27 PM, October 04, 2009) 21:26 wizzyrea @quote random 21:26 munin wizzyrea: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 09:37 PM, July 17, 2009) 21:26 wizzyrea @quote random 21:26 wizzyrea hehe 21:25 munin wizzyrea: Quote #31: "<@gmcharlt> but hacking Koha *should* be a restful part of any vacation ;)" (added by chris at 11:31 PM, September 02, 2009) 21:25 wizzyrea @quote random 21:13 pianohackr|wor1 see ya 21:13 sekjal time for the train 21:13 sekjal I'll look at it more tomorrow 21:10 sekjal yargh. wish I could hold off making payments until Koha 3.2 drops.... this is proving quite frustrating 21:06 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. 21:06 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo or the fact your code is not uptodate 21:05 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. 21:05 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo could be a problem in your systempreferences 21:05 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. 21:05 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo i used 3.0.x with your command 21:05 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. 21:05 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo you can see it is ok on my box 21:04 munin hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. 21:04 hdl_laptop @later tell ricardo here is my results from my import of your data http://imagebin.ca/view/yHRrkK82.html 21:04 hdl_laptop later tell ricardo here is my results from my import of your data http://imagebin.ca/view/yHRrkK82.html 21:02 Ropuch Flue information is... cute ;> 20:56 wizzyrea also a good one 20:56 wizzyrea www.bonnerlibrary.org 20:52 pianohackr|wor1 that is nice 20:51 wizzyrea natch at 4pm on a friday afternoon 20:50 wizzyrea 3 years, and that's the first time I've had THAT happen. sheesh. 20:50 wizzyrea ok NOW it's working 20:48 wizzyrea indeed 20:48 wizzyrea heh 20:47 pianohackr|work that there's the purtiest error message I ever did see 20:47 wizzyrea sigh 20:47 wizzyrea lol 20:46 wizzyrea www.hiawathalibrary.org 20:46 wizzyrea but we have some gorgeous sites on the project 20:46 wizzyrea sekjal-- yea, it's nearly unmanageable the way it is now 20:45 sekjal pleasant? probably not 20:45 pianohackr|work doing some of that myself 20:45 sekjal shouldn't be impossible to migrate them all 20:45 sekjal last time I was in that codebase, MU was pretty much just a wrapper around regular Wordpress... 20:45 pianohackr|work server administration, fun fun 20:45 wizzyrea project 20:45 wizzyrea the projec 20:45 wizzyrea er, when I started 20:45 wizzyrea when I did it the first time, MU didn't exist 20:45 wizzyrea that would make these updates a whole lot more trivial 20:44 wizzyrea trying to figure out if I can move them all to MU and still have them work, in an easy fashion 20:44 wizzyrea that's wordpress 2.8 20:43 wizzyrea 160 sites (give or take) 20:43 wizzyrea http://www.mykansaslibrary.org -- getting ready for 2.8 upgrade 20:43 pianohackr|work wizzyrea: what's keeping you busy these days? 20:42 pianohackr|work cya 20:42 wizzyrea byeeee 20:42 * chris has to go, bbiab 20:40 Ropuch s/brak/break 20:40 Ropuch ...after little brak ;> 20:40 Ropuch Hello wizzyrea 20:39 wizzyrea oh hi PH 20:39 Ropuch But i can check the item price and have it included in Funds & Budget 20:39 sekjal I'm also finding that my aqorderbreakdown and aqorderdelivery tables clear themselves out when an order is received 20:38 Ropuch I have NULLs all the way 20:38 Ropuch Yup 20:38 sekjal I've build a cronjob to make payments, and I can't seem to get what we actually have to pay 20:37 Ropuch Let me see mine 20:35 sekjal is this normal? 20:35 sekjal my aqorders table isn't getting the totalamount fields filled in at any point in the acquisitions process? 20:34 Ropuch Hi pianohackr|work 20:27 pianohackr|work hi, wizzyrea, Ropuch, chris 20:26 chris excellent 20:10 Ropuch I've received a proposition to speak about Koha on some Open Solaris & open source in small and medium enterprises conf 20:06 Ropuch (mitigating circumstances: i have a beer) 20:05 wizzyrea nah :) 20:03 Ropuch ;> 20:03 Ropuch Does translating intranet on friday night make me a freak? 20:02 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: must have missed your brief apparition 20:01 Ropuch ;> 20:01 chris heh 20:01 wizzyrea :D 19:59 chris_n it must be Friday, everyone is quitting 18:49 gmcharlt hdl_laptop: briefly 18:49 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: around ? 17:24 Ropuch Good evening 17:01 * chris_n heads off in search of food 17:00 chris_n owen: glad you got your zebra kicking... ;-) 16:57 wizzyrea here's a distraction as a reward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWi7CLoZ2Q 16:56 wizzyrea hehehe 16:51 owen So, WIN FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES! Which isn't very catchy. 16:50 owen No, never mind, that's a data problem not a Zebra problem. 16:49 owen Hm, wait, it seems keyword searching is working, itemtype searching isn't 16:46 wizzyrea WIN! ... FAIL! 16:45 owen Returning results that is. Only now 30 seconds later it isn't. 16:42 owen Hmmm... chris_n looks like you were right. After a restart Zebra is running 16:20 wizzyrea (this is definitely the trickiest part of the koha install experience, I think) 16:19 wizzyrea i believe that's the one 16:16 owen ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w 16:13 wizzyrea (i'm assuming you did) 16:13 wizzyrea did you build the indexes? 16:11 owen Hmmm... "sudo ps -ef | grep zebra" is showing more promising results, but I'm not getting anything when searching 15:58 * wizzyrea is glad to read this discussion of zebra starting woes... she feels less dumb now 15:48 chris_n if it is assigned to the correct run level, I think it should start on a reboot ok 15:46 chris_n owen: 'su koha' and then start it 15:44 Colin if you run the zebrasrv command in koha-zerbra-ctl.sh on the commandline with -l filename you may get some info in filename 15:43 owen Thanks brendan 15:43 brendan bye #koha 15:43 brendan I'm off for the day -- going to see the dodgers 15:43 brendan ok good luck owen 15:41 owen Doing so doesn't change the outcome of " ./koha-zebra-ctl.sh start" 15:39 * chris_n says nice things to his zebra so it will keep running 15:38 chris_n so maybe something like 'sudo chown -R koha:koha /home/oleonard/koha-dev' 15:38 chris_n owen: your koha user needs to own everything from /home/oleonard/koha-dev and below 15:36 brendan when I first began with zebrasrv (I had such troubles) I just ran it on screen 15:35 brendan true that 15:34 chris_n zebra is always a pain to get running; the installer needs to be fixed to set the permissions correctly iirc 15:33 * chris_n should read before he leaps :-\ 15:33 chris_n opps 15:33 chris_n owen: sudo ps -ef | grep zebra 15:30 brendan (we could try and change that to /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv ) -- quickly and start zebra (if that doesn't do the trick) put it back in 15:29 brendan and the ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv 15:29 brendan in that top section -- does the user, group, dbname -- all match your information 15:28 brendan ok on the koha-zebra-ctl.sh file 15:28 brendan hmm... 15:27 owen Looks like /usr/bin/zebrasrv is actually pointing to /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv 15:27 owen /etc/alternatives/zebrasrv and /usr/bin/zebrasrv 15:27 brendan or - whereis zebrasrv 15:26 brendan can you do a locate zebrasrv 15:26 brendan so zebrasrv -- is not running 15:25 owen Nope: oleonard 7586 3908 0 11:24 pts/0 00:00:00 grep zebrasrv 15:25 brendan return much ? 15:25 brendan ps -aef | grep zebrasrv 15:24 brendan ok -- that should be good then 15:23 owen The same 15:23 brendan what does yours say? 15:23 brendan ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv 15:23 brendan you should see something near to the top like this 15:22 brendan ok so when you vim -- that file 15:22 owen Yeah 15:22 brendan make sure to use the koha-dev one -- not the kohaclone one 15:22 brendan Oh yeah -- owen 15:21 * owen appreciates that the install guide suggests nano 15:21 * wizzyrea is ashamed to be a nano fan 15:21 brendan I mean looking at -- as in -- vim koha-zebra-ctl.sh 15:20 brendan it should say where it's looking for the zebrasrv 15:20 brendan the reason I ask is --- if you open the koha-zebra-ctl.sh file 15:19 brendan owen -- can you find where your zebrasrv directory is 15:19 owen Both of those commands give me the "Starting..." message and return me to the command prompt. 15:19 wizzyrea and give you your prompt back 15:19 wizzyrea yep, put a & at the end, it should leave the daemon running 15:19 owen and: sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh start 15:19 owen Here's what I'm following in the install guide: sudo ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start 15:18 wizzyrea (can't remember what it is0 15:18 wizzyrea so <zebra start command> & 15:17 wizzyrea then hit enter and it should give you your prompt baack 15:17 wizzyrea if you stop it, ctrl-c, then start it again, put a & at the end 15:17 wizzyrea nope, that means it's running 15:17 owen it doesn't give any additional output. Should it? 15:16 wizzyrea just sits there? 15:16 wizzyrea it doesn't do anything? 15:16 wizzyrea oh ty jwagner 15:16 owen It says "Starting Zebra Server" and "Starting Zebraqueue Daemon" when I run those commands 15:15 owen Okay...Seems like Zebra is refusing to start, but not giving an error. 15:14 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded. Quote #41 added. 15:14 jwagner @quote add owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;) 15:13 wizzyrea oh snap! 15:13 jwagner It does if he gets punched out for it! 15:13 wizzyrea DOH 15:13 munin wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 15:13 wizzyrea @quote add owen: Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;) 15:12 owen Being an ass doesn't qualify as a medical condition ;) 15:11 Colin I hope not 15:10 wizzyrea guess they never seated him in the emergency exit row on airplanes 15:10 wizzyrea oi 15:09 Colin yep. it gave trainers and support staff their own medical conditions 15:09 wizzyrea change was very bad, in that situation 15:09 wizzyrea so... um... 15:08 wizzyrea LOL really!? 15:08 Colin Once had a customer who informed us he had a medical condition that meant he couldnt follow instructions 15:05 wizzyrea ooh, I think you just negative karma'd creativity - how about inner_creativity-- 15:05 jwagner inner creativity-- 15:01 Colin they are just using their inner creativity 15:01 munin wizzyrea: Karma for "pigheaded" has been increased 1 time and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 0. 15:01 wizzyrea @karma pigheaded 15:00 wizzyrea lol 15:00 jwagner and pigheaded-- when it's library staff not doing what we tell them too.... 15:00 jwagner pigheaded++ 14:59 * wizzyrea realizes she's being a bit pig headed this morning 14:54 wizzyrea fortunately, in this case I don't think anybody will lose their job over the change ^.^ 14:53 jwagner Yep. 14:52 jwagner Don't dig on MY account. Some are nimble-minded, while others definitely aren't. And there's not much changing them. 14:52 Colin in many libraries changing workflow is a big political problem 14:52 * wizzyrea 's hole is coming along quite nicely 14:52 wizzyrea <dig dig dig> 14:51 * wizzyrea gets out the shovel 14:51 wizzyrea erm, not that you don't 14:51 wizzyrea :) 14:51 wizzyrea we're actually pretty lucky, we have nimble minded librarians 14:51 wizzyrea yep, I imagine 14:51 jwagner Trying to convince people to change habits is really tough. 14:51 wizzyrea (I'm of the, "hm, this is how it works for us now, so let's do it this way" school) 14:50 jwagner wizzyrea, been there, done that, got the scars.... 14:50 owen skeptical++ 14:50 wizzyrea (as an aside, I'm always kind of skeptical of doing something simply for the sake of preserving historical workflow, so take my statements with a grain of salt) 14:49 jwagner They weren't necessarily resistant, it just came as a bit of a surprise to them. 14:48 wizzyrea not saying it's the best way (tm) just that it's a way that works (tm) 14:48 wizzyrea so they were resistant to the whole "add an item" workflow? 14:48 wizzyrea haha 14:47 jwagner pianohacker is much too refined in his statements. I'd put it a bit more forcefully myself. But this is A Family Show, right? 14:47 wizzyrea :( 14:47 wizzyrea dk, as pianohacker would say, holds/reserves are a giant headache in the code 14:46 wizzyrea add a barcode, change itypes 14:46 jwagner wizzyrea, I wonder if there's anything in, say, one of the 942 subfields that could be used in this manner? For example, one of the 942 subfields is used now as a flag for suppressing display. If there is something unused, maybe it could work like that -- set a flag in the 942 if title-level holds are allowed. 14:46 wizzyrea about the same amount of work 14:46 wizzyrea right, or you can edit the item to make it an official item 14:46 Colin you want the system to also remove the dummy item when the real copies arrive 14:45 wizzyrea and there's nothing unique about the item. Home branch would be the logged in branch. 14:45 wizzyrea because, at least in our workflow, there are 4 fields, always the same, that must be set for an on order item 14:44 jwagner bye, kf! 14:44 wizzyrea have a good weekend :) 14:44 wizzyrea bye kf 14:44 kf ok, I think im to confused today to think about workflows - will start my weekend now :) bye #koha and have a nice weekend 14:43 wizzyrea it would be cool if there was a true "item quick add" that let you, say, check a box to say, this title is on order, create a not for loan item so that holds may be placed on the bib 14:43 hdl_laptop mmm. It is not because it is notforloan that you should not be able to reserve a book for reference 14:42 jwagner Anything relevant to this situation? 14:42 hdl_laptop jwagner: nahuel has worked on reserves at biblio level 14:41 jwagner Colin, yes, that's the situation. I liked wizzyrea's workflow -- creating a dummy item that's marked explicitly as not for loan at the item level. If I understand it, that would prevent holds from being placed _on the dummy item_ but would allow a title level hold. 14:41 kf so you will need to flag them as on order 14:41 owen ...but how to distinguish between those on-order titles and other titles with no holdings? 14:40 * owen agrees with Colin 14:40 Colin A lot of libraries don't like to create items before receipt but do want holds on forthcoming bestseller 14:39 jwagner kf, yes, thank The Great Pumpkin for Fridays! 14:39 kf adding items in acquisiton when placing the order... ... its friday 14:38 brendan or whatever the correct sequence is 14:38 brendan so you'll probaly want to do something like --- chown -R owen:owen /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/ 14:38 kf jwagner: I think another workflow is to add items when ordering items which will be possible with new acquisition as I understand it 14:38 Colin owen: ls -l the norm.LCK file is it the wrong ownership forthe user running zebrasrv or the script 14:38 brendan then you'll need to learn about chown 14:37 brendan cd /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/ 14:37 brendan owen check the permissions on those directories 14:37 owen ...after running rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w 14:36 owen I could use advice on this error: "[warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied]" 14:36 jwagner It's a particular library's existing workflow -- the old system allowed them to create on-order title records with no items, and to have holds placed. Trying to migrate that data into Koha created lots of hiccups because Koha doesn't like title-no-item holds. I've told them they'll probably need to adjust their workflow to create a dummy item, but since I also come from a system that allowed such holds, I wanted to investigate the possibilities in Koha 14:35 kf ah sorry, acquisition 14:34 kf jwagner: for which cases is it necessary to place holds on titles without items? 14:32 jwagner I can't think of any way to flag _title_ records as to whether they can get holds or not, so the idea may be a nonstarter. But I wanted to investigate further. 14:31 owen I would also worry about bibliographic records which had accidentally been left behind after all items were deleted 14:31 owen Right, that's the specific case I'm thinking of as well: cataloged online resources (entries for web sites) 14:31 jwagner (and wizzyrea, thanks for the help yesterday!) 14:30 jwagner Meaning that they might be confused about whether items would be forthcoming? I thought about that -- we have sites that catalog online resources, for example, that will never get items attached and shouldn't get holds. 14:28 owen My objections would be practical ones for patron interactions. 14:28 jwagner Question for you and everyone else, with regard to my problem of yesterday. What would be the implications of allowing Koha to place holds on titles (e.g., on-order) that do not have items attached? Anything in the code or database that would make this A Bad Idea? 14:26 wizzyrea ? 14:26 wizzyrea sup 14:26 wizzyrea heya jwagner 14:18 jwagner wizzyrea, online? 13:56 ricardo I have a meeting now. Back in 2 hours or so 13:55 ricardo Lost power in the room... 13:29 ricardo hdl_laptop: No. Thank YOU. :) 13:29 hdl_laptop ty 13:29 ricardo hdl_laptop: Just sent you an e-mail with the attached records 13:16 ricardo hdl_laptop: "Yes, we can" ;-) Do I send it to you by e-mail? 13:15 hdl_laptop can you send your marc data ? 13:15 ricardo hdl_laptop: UNIMARC - Yes... XSLTs - I don't think so 13:14 hdl_laptop are you using UNIMARC ? XSLTs ? 13:07 ricardo hdl_laptop: Hi again. Do you have any hints that may help me understand the issue I mentioned above? ( http://twitpic.com/lq6bm VS http://twitpic.com/lq6iv ) 12:57 hdl_laptop keep me tuned 12:57 hdl_laptop git add needs some arguments 12:56 hdl_laptop git push 12:56 hdl_laptop git commit 12:56 hdl_laptop git add 12:56 hdl_laptop And then copy your stuff into that directory 12:56 hdl_laptop git clone gitosis@git.biblibre.com:kohadocs.git Kohadocs 12:55 hdl_laptop nengard : 12:54 |Lupin| bye all 12:52 ricardo http://twitpic.com/lq6iv 12:52 ricardo The characters that were weird, in the titles of OPAC search results, appear correctly in the title of OPAC record detail (Koha 3.0.x git, bulkmarcimport) 12:52 ricardo ... the strange thing is: 12:52 nengard hdl_laptop how do I do that? are there instructions online somewhere? 12:52 ricardo http://twitpic.com/lq6bm 12:52 hdl_laptop Then you could clone that. and copy your stuff into that 12:51 ricardo Weird characters in titles in OPAC search results for a Koha 3.0.x git installation (records imported by bulkmarcimport.pl) 12:51 nengard chris_n i think that will have the reverse effect ... 12:51 ricardo Can someone give me hints to debug this: 12:51 hdl_laptop I propose to create the git repository for you. 12:51 nengard here 12:51 hdl_laptop nengard: ? 12:47 jwagner chris_n, does your computer LIKE coffee??? 12:35 ricardo chris_n: LOL! 12:34 * chris_n pours coffee into his keyboard to get his computer going 12:34 chris_n g'morning #koha 12:32 chris_n wow... koha 3.1 on Strawberry; cool 12:17 ricardo (great... link spam sent through pastebot) 12:16 pastebot "gGHcPMGdVYjoKomqOU" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "pnTAnfbB" (1 line) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/12 12:08 Nate wow cant type this morning 12:07 Nate hey nicloe 12:07 nengard hiya Nate 11:59 jwagner Bonjour and Guten tag 11:57 hdl_laptop kf 11:57 hdl_laptop hi K 11:57 kf good morning 11:56 hdl_laptop hi jwagner 11:55 jwagner And good morning everyone 11:55 hdl_laptop hi Ropuch 11:55 nengard morning all 11:55 Ropuch Hi nengard, jdavidb, hdl_laptop 11:54 jdavidb Morning #koha! :) 11:54 nengard hdl_laptop - still no luck :( - will send you my error messages 11:51 hdl_laptop see you then 11:51 hdl_laptop ok 11:51 nengard gonna try restarting - the readme says I need to log out 11:50 nengard thanks hdl_laptop - still having issues - installed git - but it says git is not a command it recognizes :( bleh 11:46 hdl_laptop I answered you. 11:44 nengard nope ... no luck 11:43 nengard trying that now 11:43 nengard but then I saw that i needed to download git for my mac :) hehe - sorry - it's still early and I've been sick and my head is fuzzy 11:42 nengard hdl_laptop was going to say I repllied to your email 11:41 hdl_laptop hi ;) 11:41 hdl_laptop yes 11:40 nengard hdl_laptop around? 09:59 pastebot "ricardo" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Output of "top" in a git Koha 3.0.x installation (in a Debian 5.0.3 Virtual Machine)" (24 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/11 09:56 ricardo (those processes appeared with "top") 09:56 ricardo I did have many processes "search.pl" (that seems strange). I'll have to look into this 09:55 ricardo All swap used... Yep, I will have to increase RAM for this, even for debugging it... Doing it now 09:52 ricardo fredericd: Yeah... I have some Apache settings for other machine, that I may try to use. 09:50 fredericd ricardo: 256MB, it's very short. Apache is known to be RAM hungry... You can try a light weight web server like lighthttp, but be prepared to spend time on its config... 09:49 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK, thanks... I'll do that right now (just finished rebooting the VM) 09:49 hdl_laptop yes 09:48 ricardo hdl_laptop: Should I set the value in *both* places? In the staff client (web) and in the Koha conf file? 09:48 hdl_laptop and set that to 1 09:48 ricardo hdl_laptop: Right... 09:48 hdl_laptop see DebugLevel syspref in Koha 09:48 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK. I'll try that. Thanks! :) 09:48 hdl_laptop ricardo: setenv KOHA_DEBUG 1 09:47 ricardo I did have a "SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 2" (or something like that) in the Koha configuration file... I commented it and rebooted the machine, but the problem persists 09:46 ricardo fredericd: No X11 installed... This is a pretty "clean" Debian 5.0.3 install. I may search for more services, though 09:45 fredericd ricardo: I understand... Can you suppress/disable OS services? Have you X11 installed? 09:44 ricardo fredericd: It's a VPS... In this case, running in "Rackspace Cloud" 09:43 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK. Thanks for the info 09:43 ricardo fredericd: Right... but that costs money in this case :P 09:43 fredericd give more RAM to your VM! 09:43 hdl_laptop not using koha on a VM 09:37 ricardo (Git Koha installation for Koha 3.0.x branch) 09:36 ricardo Is anyone having this problem as well? 09:35 ricardo [33320.859690] Killed process 4560 (circulation.pl) 09:35 ricardo [33320.859642] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 243699 or a child 09:35 ricardo [33320.859642] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 243699 or a child 09:34 ricardo [33279.082988] Killed process 4559 (search.pl) 09:34 ricardo [33279.082924] Out of memory: kill process 3881 (apache2) score 248080 or a child 09:34 ricardo I'm getting a memory leak in a git installation in a Virtual Machine with 256 Megs of RAM :( 09:33 ricardo Hi all... 07:17 |Lupin| hello paul_p 06:54 |Lupin| guten tag kf 06:53 kf morning brendan 06:52 brendan morning kf 06:52 kf morning #koha 06:44 laurence hello |Lupin| 06:43 |Lupin| bonjour laurence 06:25 cait ok, time to go to work, bbl 06:25 cait ;) 06:23 Ropuch I mean cait 06:23 Ropuch Hello |Lupin|, chris_n2-away 06:20 |Lupin| hi cait :) 06:20 cait morning :) 06:18 |Lupin| chris: around ? 06:01 chris_n2 g'night all 05:59 chris_n2 that would be cool 05:58 Ropuch I'm thinking about some 'tool' for uploading custom cover pictures during acquisition 05:57 Ropuch Yes, I'm in Poland 05:54 chris_n2 Ropuch: you must be in Europe 05:50 Ropuch chris_n2: not that late ;> 05:50 brendan nice enjoy your coffee 05:50 chris_n2 1:45 am here... 05:49 Ropuch It's 7:48 am here ;> 05:49 * chris_n2 is pouring the coffee into his eyes at this time of night ;-) 05:48 Ropuch I'm about to get my morning coffee 05:48 Ropuch Good, thanks 05:45 brendan how you doing Ropuch 05:44 brendan heya Ropuch 05:44 chris_n2 hello Ropuch 05:44 Ropuch hi brendan, chris_n2 05:41 chris_n2 I get out with the kids and play occasionally 05:41 chris_n2 hehe 05:41 brendan over for tonight -- so back to working :) 05:40 brendan my hobbie -- baseball 05:40 chris_n2 another even 05:40 chris_n2 yet anther hobbie 05:40 brendan ah 05:40 chris_n2 tonight is genealogy night 05:39 chris_n2 howdy brendan 05:39 brendan you're another one that stays up late 05:39 brendan heya chris_n2 05:39 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 13.0�C (1:19 AM EDT on October 16, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). 05:39 chris_n2 @wunder 28334 04:46 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.6�C (9:41 PM PDT on October 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 9 am PDT Friday... 04:46 brendan @wunder 93117 04:36 brendan evening #koha 03:46 richard it's a pity the national library of NZ isn't more savvy about having MS Word downloads on their site - but there is a nice mention of Koha here - http://www.natlib.govt.nz/catalogues/library-documents/carnaby-lianza-2009 03:45 |Lupin| hey richard 03:45 richard hi |Lupin| 03:35 |Lupin| hi 03:19 chris_n2 yeah, I find myself 'gitting' a lot of things 03:13 brendan I still type -- git -- when I mean give -- or some other word that starts with g 03:02 * chris_n2 just closed a bunch of browser tabs he did not want to :-P 03:02 chris_n2 there's a difference between "File->Exit" and the close window button in FF 03:01 chris_n2 ouch 02:19 chris yeah "safer communities together" it was awesome, id buy that man a beer 02:19 richard rofl 02:17 chris nz policing at it's finest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2NhQmZ3S6E 02:17 gmcharlt hi brendan 02:15 brendan heya gmcharlt 02:11 chris ahhh 02:11 gmcharlt flying home tomorrow morning 02:11 gmcharlt in Chicago coming back from a one day session at UIUC (for library school) 02:10 chris where you flying to today? 02:10 gmcharlt another day, another airline :/ 02:10 gmcharlt hi chris 02:10 chris hi gmcharlt 02:09 brendan working on a new website and was wondering if I should mess with them -- or go with stock... 02:08 brendan just wondering what was out there? 02:08 brendan just wondering if anyone -- has changed them 02:08 richard k 02:08 brendan yes I have seen those 02:07 richard brendan - did you get these ones - http://old.koha.org/community/resources/index.html 02:01 brendan heh 02:01 richard yeah, lot of fecundity around here 02:00 brendan I see babies :) 02:00 richard there's a few there ... but not many 02:00 richard try a search on koha in http://katipo.co.nz/gallery 01:57 brendan yeah -- found a few of those 01:55 richard there used to be a wodge of them on the koha site 01:54 richard wrong # 01:54 richard gah 01:54 richard well all the emails that the creator/approver get now anyway 01:52 brendan anybody got any cool looking koha logo's out there -- or changes to the normal koha logo? 00:02 |Lupin| 'd night all