| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:10 |
|
|Lupin| |
is it correct that it isnot possible from within Koha to send e-mails to all the patrons at the same time, please ? |
| 12:12 |
|
gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: to every patron at once? now |
| 12:12 |
|
gmcharlt |
*no |
| 12:13 |
|
|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: okay, thanks ! |
| 12:14 |
|
|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: just wanted to double check |
| 12:14 |
|
|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: what are Koha's possibilities regarding e-mails ? |
| 12:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: sending out patron notifications, mostly |
| 12:15 |
|
chris |
thats only available with the "Koha Spam Plugin ... now with the ability to send html mail to all your patrons twice .. for maximum annoyance" |
| 12:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris++ |
| 12:16 |
|
chris |
and with that, im going to sleep |
| 12:16 |
|
chris |
have a good day all |
| 12:16 |
|
|Lupin| |
good night chris |
| 12:17 |
|
|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: I'm sorry, I don't find the feature you were mentionning... where is it in the web interface ? |
| 12:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: enhanced messaging attributes, for one |
| 12:27 |
|
kf |
documenting opac-features today, is there a catalog using OpacBrowser so that I can see how it does look like? |
| 12:28 |
|
kf |
wiki say only works in french dewey catalog |
| 12:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: don't know, sorry |
| 12:30 |
|
|Lupin| |
okay, have to run |
| 12:30 |
|
|Lupin| |
see you later all ! |
| 12:30 |
|
hdl_laptop |
paul_p: is there any opacBrowser on ? |
| 12:30 |
|
paul_p |
hdl_laptop & kf: I don't think so. |
| 12:37 |
|
kf |
ok, thx |
| 12:38 |
|
kf |
paul_p: what does french dewey mean - we have (modified) dewey and MARC21 - UNIMARC needed? |
| 12:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
kf: UDC (universal decimal classification), not DDC (Dewey decimal classification), I suspect |
| 12:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
the opacbrowser feature should work OK for both UNIMARC and MARC21 |
| 12:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
once appropriate configuration tables are created |
| 12:52 |
|
paul_p |
kf: gmcharlt is right. The "only" problem is that we (BibLibre) never took time to integrate into Koha the "browsing description", it's hardcoded into the script. |
| 12:52 |
|
paul_p |
if you want to sponsor this, it should be fairly easy to highly improve the feature (and I have a lot of ideas about how to do that...) |
| 12:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
there's a patch floating around to add English DDC descriptions, but because of potential OCLC copyright issues |
| 12:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
may need to do the work of adding a configuration file for this so that library can supply their own DDC config table |
| 12:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
of course, a config file for this is a good idea anyway |
| 13:02 |
|
owen |
Anyone know the address of AUAF's OPAC? The link on their page is broken: http://www.auaf.edu.af/lib_collections.html |
| 13:02 |
|
owen |
Also: Hi everyone! |
| 13:03 |
|
kf |
gmcharlt & paul_p: thx :) but dont get how it its supposed to work or look like |
| 13:04 |
|
kf |
gmcharlt & paul_p: so difficult to say, if it would work for us or if the library would be interested in this feature |
| 13:06 |
|
kf |
gmcharlt $ paul_p: perhaps similar to our "browse classification" feature? |
| 13:07 |
|
kf |
https://webpac11.bsz-bw.de/WP.aafh.html ? |
| 13:08 |
|
paul_p |
kf: yes, it's something like that. |
| 13:09 |
|
paul_p |
you "browse" a classification, that looks like a "tree", and when you reach the lowest level, you reach a list of results |
| 13:09 |
|
paul_p |
what is missing are some table to explain : |
| 13:09 |
|
paul_p |
- the tree |
| 13:09 |
|
paul_p |
- how it is filled |
| 13:09 |
|
paul_p |
for example : |
| 13:09 |
|
paul_p |
1-economics |
| 13:09 |
|
kf |
ah, ok, I understand now! |
| 13:09 |
|
paul_p |
1a Personnel management |
| 13:09 |
|
paul_p |
1b Finances |
| 13:09 |
|
paul_p |
2 Law |
| 13:10 |
|
paul_p |
2a General |
| 13:10 |
|
paul_p |
2b International |
| 13:10 |
|
paul_p |
... |
| 13:10 |
|
paul_p |
then, you would say "biblios fitting this criteria are in this category" |
| 13:10 |
|
paul_p |
and THIS ... THIS is in a parameter table |
| 13:10 |
|
paul_p |
for example : biblios with callnumber X are 1a |
| 13:10 |
|
paul_p |
biblios with callnumber Y are in 1b |
| 13:11 |
|
paul_p |
... |
| 13:11 |
|
paul_p |
you could even say "biblios from author X are 1a" or "biblios from publisher Z are ..." |
| 13:12 |
|
paul_p |
atm, the only included feature is hardcoded dewey, stored in french |
| 13:12 |
|
paul_p |
(+ some pending patch in english as said galen) |
| 13:15 |
|
kf |
thx for explaining paul! |
| 13:15 |
|
kf |
my job here includes transfering and linking home made classifications to html for opacs - so I really have to test this out sometime |
| 13:16 |
|
kf |
the example I showed you looks not so nice... did it a while ago, but its the only one in english we have :) |
| 13:20 |
|
paul_p |
I learned german at school but... my teachers were poor, the student was not very interested and it was 25 years ago so... |
| 13:22 |
|
kf |
never learned french at school :( |
| 13:34 |
|
owen |
Hi Wizzyrea_ |
| 13:35 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
heya |
| 13:35 |
|
paul_p |
'morning owen & Wizzyrea_ |
| 13:53 |
|
owen |
Does the calendar pop-up widget in the staff client pick up different translations if you're not using English? |
| 13:57 |
|
nicomo |
owen: I'm not sure |
| 13:57 |
|
paul_p |
owen: nope, it's in english |
| 13:57 |
|
nicomo |
it does not just based on the language select within Koha |
| 13:57 |
|
nicomo |
but my browser is in en-US so |
| 13:59 |
|
owen |
I suppose the same is true of the TinyMCE plugin. Are those the only two examples? |
| 14:03 |
|
Snow_Fox |
anyone have mark or beverlys email for liblime? |
| 14:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
Snow_Fox: beverly.church liblime.com |
| 14:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
and mark.bucholtzliblime.com |
| 14:10 |
|
Snow_Fox |
thanks gmcharlt |
| 14:26 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hey just to make sure with the custom reports via SQL if im searching for a specific item say by item id if i wanted to change what that ID is i would have to create a new report, there is no way to edit the sql report after its created, correct? |
| 14:28 |
|
Sharon |
I'm not sure of the version number, but the ability to edit reports was fixed by Chris right after KohaCon |
| 14:29 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i wonder if it will be in the 3.2 rollout |
| 14:30 |
|
Sharon |
http://www.nexpresslibrary.org/may-27-updates/ < info about the edit feature in reports |
| 14:30 |
|
Sharon |
they keep pushing it back. |
| 14:31 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hrm |
| 14:31 |
|
Sharon |
FYI, We're at version: 3.01.00.037 because we have a lot of enhancements, so we have to stay at the bleeding edget |
| 14:31 |
|
Sharon |
edge |
| 14:31 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i bet that gets tiring |
| 14:31 |
|
Snow_Fox |
all the blood and what not |
| 14:31 |
|
Snow_Fox |
:-p |
| 14:32 |
|
Sharon |
We have pretty resilient librarians, but they get tired of the instability |
| 14:32 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ok the edit button is def on the liblime demo |
| 14:32 |
|
Snow_Fox |
so yay |
| 14:35 |
|
Snow_Fox |
well |
| 14:35 |
|
Snow_Fox |
unless |
| 14:35 |
|
Snow_Fox |
the demo is a lie |
| 14:35 |
|
Snow_Fox |
:-p |
| 14:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
Snow_Fox: the edit feature has been in the public HEAD for yonks |
| 14:36 |
|
Snow_Fox |
k |
| 14:37 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
yonks, that's one i don't hear often |
| 14:37 |
|
Snow_Fox |
thats one ive never heard before |
| 14:37 |
|
Snow_Fox |
nuts its not in our test system |
| 14:37 |
|
Snow_Fox |
:( |
| 14:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
hmm - if you believe http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-yon1.htm, Florida is apparently part of the UK |
| 14:41 |
|
Snow_Fox |
uh huh..... |
| 14:46 |
|
Snow_Fox |
gotta love local dialects |
| 14:50 |
|
owen |
Bug 2800 refers to a system pref "maxItemsInSearchResults" which I don't see in my system. |
| 14:50 |
|
munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2800 normal, P3, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, NEW, maxItemsInSearchResults causes confusing display |
| 14:51 |
|
owen |
Has that become numSearchResults and OPACnumSearchResults? |
| 14:52 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hey ive seen that before |
| 14:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi again everybody |
| 14:53 |
|
Snow_Fox |
from what i was told it was a old value that got into the manual but not actually used |
| 14:53 |
|
Snow_Fox |
there was another in there as well |
| 14:55 |
|
|Lupin| |
when I try to git checkout master, it tells me that my branch is of origin/mastr... could someone please tell me how to go to origin/master anyway ? |
| 14:57 |
|
owen |
I guess OPACnumSearchResults refers to titles returned, not items returned. |
| 15:23 |
|
owen |
maxItemsInSearchResults must have gotten lost in an updatedatabase somewhere. It seems to work once added manually |
| 15:25 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hrm piano said it was a custom sys pref |
| 15:25 |
|
Snow_Fox |
bev said it was a outdated item |
| 15:27 |
|
magnusenger |
Hi, all! I'm having some trouble with bulkmarcimport today. It looks like e.g. 952$h = 359.00944 Røk is turned into 952$6 = 359_009440000000000_R?K for biblioitems.marc, and then the record in biblioitems.marcxml is cut short at the "?": http://koha.pastebin.com/m31e02404 Anyone have any clues? |
| 15:28 |
|
owen |
Snow_Fox: It works, and it's in Search.pm and updatedatabase.pl |
| 15:28 |
|
owen |
I'm not sure why my database didn't get updated with it |
| 15:28 |
|
magnusenger |
So any "nordic wowels" (æøå) in 952h results in broken MARCXML |
| 15:29 |
|
magnusenger |
All other occurrences of æøå seem to work fine |
| 15:31 |
|
magnusenger |
sorry, that should of course be 952$o, not $h... |
| 15:34 |
|
magnusenger |
I'm munging records from a proprietary Norewgian system, and putting values in 952o with this: if (my $field096 = $record->field('096')) { $field952->add_subfields('o' => $field096->subfield('a')); } Could that somehow result in values in 952o that are not UTF8, if the value of the original 096a is in UTF8? |
| 15:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
magnusenger: yes, it's possible |
| 15:36 |
|
magnusenger |
gmcharlt: any way to avoid it? |
| 15:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
perldoc Encode # for one way of ensuring that the values are converted to UTF8 |
| 15:36 |
|
|Lupin| |
pls, what's the blib directory ? |
| 15:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: temporary directly created when you ran Makefile.PL. Safe to delete it after installation |
| 15:38 |
|
magnusenger |
gmcharlt: thanks, i'll have a look at it |
| 15:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
for a dev install ? |
| 15:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: even for a dev install ? |
| 15:43 |
|
gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: yes |
| 15:47 |
|
hdl_laptop |
magnusenger: I will be posting a patch proposing a function to ensure marcrecord data are utf8 encoded and donot get double encoded with manipulations |
| 15:50 |
|
Sharon |
we've lost access to our catalog...ugh |
| 15:50 |
|
owen |
http://nekls.kohalibrary.com/ ? |
| 15:51 |
|
Sharon |
yep |
| 15:51 |
|
owen |
Works for me! |
| 15:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
Sharon: works for me as well |
| 15:51 |
|
Sharon |
well crap, i wonder what the hell is going on. |
| 15:54 |
|
paul_p |
Sharon: it works even from France ;-) |
| 15:54 |
|
magnusenger |
hdl_laptop: sounds like a good idea! ;-) |
| 15:54 |
|
paul_p |
and I even have the french version of the OPAC :D |
| 15:54 |
|
Sharon |
it's hit/miss some libraries can get into some sites, but not others...and liz is home sick! |
| 15:54 |
|
Sharon |
how does "nexpress" translate?? |
| 15:55 |
|
rhcl |
Sharon - We just had a complete Internet outage here--maybe affecting you too? We're good now though. |
| 15:55 |
|
paul_p |
Sharon: it doesn't. It just means I have the "koha strings" in french. not the catalogue or your header, footer or left menu |
| 15:56 |
|
Sharon |
that would explain why they can't get into amazon.com...I'll preach patience and hope for the best. |
| 15:57 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, our "ISP" said it was a teleco problem, so it could affect you too I suppose. |
| 15:57 |
|
rhcl |
telco |
| 15:58 |
|
owen |
Sharon: I have a very hard time getting my staff to give me accurate reports in these situations |
| 15:58 |
|
owen |
"Koha is down" could mean Koha is down, it could mean the internet is down. |
| 15:58 |
|
owen |
I could mean they're typing in their password incorrectly :| |
| 15:58 |
|
Sharon |
I have Diana out on the front lines now, so I can get accurate reports for her - with 'parts' of the internet being down, I think rhcl has it right |
| 15:59 |
|
paul_p |
last saturday I had a phone call of a SAN-OP librarian (the regular staff is in holiday) saying "hey, zebra is down". 10mn later, new call "oups, sorry, it's not zebra, it's the internet. We have nothing at all". Fortunatly, I was not on my phone, so got the 2 messages 20mn after that ;-) |
| 16:00 |
|
Sharon |
Yep, our ISP is investigating the outage |
| 16:01 |
|
rhcl |
Sharon: sorry, where are you again? |
| 16:01 |
|
Sharon |
Kansas |
| 16:01 |
|
Sharon |
Lawrence |
| 16:01 |
|
rhcl |
Rgr |
| 16:01 |
|
cait |
Sharon: logos are missing for me |
| 16:03 |
|
Sharon |
...and we're doing a program on cloud computing in a couple of weeks at our Tech Day workshop...I think I'll gloss over this part |
| 16:13 |
|
wizz-work |
can any of you get to catalog.nexpresslibrary.org? It looks like it should be resolving from here but it isn't connecting |
| 16:13 |
|
wizz-work |
it's getting lost in translation somewhere |
| 16:14 |
|
chris |
i can |
| 16:15 |
|
chris |
and no, dont ask why im awake at 4.15am looking at koha catalogues |
| 16:15 |
|
wizz-work |
lulz |
| 16:17 |
|
Sharon |
it's back up |
| 16:18 |
|
Snow_Fox |
you droped off too? |
| 16:18 |
|
wizz-work |
oh was yours not working either snow? |
| 16:18 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ya |
| 16:18 |
|
wizz-work |
must have been some kind of kansas DNS deal |
| 16:18 |
|
wizz-work |
who's your isp? |
| 16:19 |
|
Snow_Fox |
Cox |
| 16:19 |
|
Snow_Fox |
you? |
| 16:19 |
|
wizz-work |
kanren |
| 16:19 |
|
Snow_Fox |
strange |
| 16:19 |
|
wizz-work |
and it's not like we host your DNS |
| 16:19 |
|
Snow_Fox |
must have been further up the pipe |
| 16:19 |
|
wizz-work |
(which was my first thought, because we host nexpresslibrary.org from here) |
| 16:19 |
|
wizz-work |
and kohalibrary.com was resolving |
| 16:20 |
|
wizz-work |
but nexpresslibrary.org wasn't |
| 16:20 |
|
wizz-work |
were you going to a kohalibrary.com address or something custom of your own? |
| 16:20 |
|
Snow_Fox |
kanren dns servers are backe by cox |
| 16:20 |
|
Snow_Fox |
so its a cox dns issue |
| 16:20 |
|
wizz-work |
oh well there you go |
| 16:20 |
|
Snow_Fox |
at least thats what i was told :\ |
| 16:20 |
|
wizz-work |
whew, and I rushed into work because I thought it was our DNS server ^.^ |
| 16:21 |
|
wizz-work |
(our server is backed up by KanRen, who is apparently backed by cox) |
| 16:21 |
|
Snow_Fox |
me and another tech were out getting food for the potluck |
| 16:21 |
|
wizz-work |
well I'm glad to know you snow_fox :) |
| 16:21 |
|
Snow_Fox |
heh |
| 16:21 |
|
wizz-work |
b/c that means it's not my fault ^.^ |
| 16:21 |
|
Snow_Fox |
LOL |
| 16:22 |
|
Snow_Fox |
we lost DNS here so it if it was you did a doozie |
| 16:22 |
|
paul_p |
sounds logic: some computers had DNS cache, so could find the host, some hadn't, so couldn't find the host. |
| 16:23 |
|
wizz-work |
bbiab |
| 16:24 |
|
Snow_Fox |
well google searchs were bringing up links |
| 16:24 |
|
Snow_Fox |
but they were not going anywhere |
| 16:31 |
|
rhcl |
All KS people: MORE.net tells me there's a telco problem in our area--if it's your problem too then you may see flaky behavior. |
| 16:31 |
|
rhcl |
When it was going on I could get to google sometimes, but not other sites, and email was up and down too. |
| 16:32 |
|
rhcl |
We're right on the MOKAN border anyway. |
| 16:33 |
|
Snow_Fox |
rhcl: more.net how do you check? |
| 16:35 |
|
rhcl |
Well, they do our Internet connections, so I can call tech support. |
| 16:36 |
|
rhcl |
We are a member of a program they have that manages our Internet connections up to their router and our firewall. |
| 16:38 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ah |
| 16:38 |
|
rhcl |
-->http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/ Works for me. |
| 16:41 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ok |
| 16:41 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i just got details of what happened |
| 16:41 |
|
Snow_Fox |
apparently a Cox Core router in Oklahoma City barfed |
| 16:41 |
|
Sharon |
I think all is well now, thank goodness |
| 16:43 |
|
Snow_Fox |
heh |
| 16:43 |
|
Snow_Fox |
simply put |
| 16:43 |
|
Snow_Fox |
cox barfed |
| 16:45 |
|
Sharon |
I'll put that in my explanatory email - "Koha was down because a Cox Core router in OKC barfed" |
| 16:45 |
|
Snow_Fox |
nah just simply not our problem cox barfed |
| 16:47 |
|
Sharon |
I had to have Liz explain DNS to me...I'm learning much geek in this job |
| 16:47 |
|
Snow_Fox |
well it wasnt DNS |
| 16:48 |
|
Snow_Fox |
as we had thought |
| 16:48 |
|
Snow_Fox |
it was active directy service server or a core router |
| 16:48 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i could be wrong on my terminiology there |
| 16:48 |
|
Sharon |
I didn't even know we had a DNS server here in the office...or that it could go down...or what that would mean to our libraries. |
| 16:48 |
|
Snow_Fox |
heh |
| 16:48 |
|
cait |
sharon: i know how you feel about learning geek... ) |
| 16:48 |
|
Sharon |
but I do now! |
| 16:49 |
|
Snow_Fox |
if its any consolation im learning alot of librarian |
| 16:49 |
|
Snow_Fox |
:-P |
| 16:49 |
|
Sharon |
hehe |
| 16:51 |
|
rhcl |
->librarian<- something I have resisted learning quite well. I'm vaguely aware there is Mark 10 and Mark 13 and that's all I need to know. |
| 16:52 |
|
Snow_Fox |
it burns usssss |
| 16:52 |
|
rhcl |
MARBI = Multiple Array Recursive Bind Instructions ? |
| 16:53 |
|
Snow_Fox |
I am most decidedly not a programmer :-P |
| 16:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
MARBI = Multi-precision Arbitrary Records Bookmarking Information |
| 16:55 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, well, I was close |
| 16:55 |
|
cait |
isnt that MARC21 commitee also called marbi? |
| 16:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
cait: that is in fact the droid I was looking for :) |
| 16:55 |
|
cait |
yay :) |
| 16:56 |
|
|Lupin| |
rhcl: hmm that was just a joke ! Just tried to invent something funny |
| 16:56 |
|
Sharon |
I had a friend on that committee and I'm a cataloger, so we had long, interesting, truly librarian-geek discussions on cataloging standards |
| 16:57 |
|
rhcl |
You know, I did read an interesting article from some world-famous library guy where he discussed something to the effect that if you threw out Marc and all the ILSies and started from scratch with a bare database, what would you design today. |
| 17:00 |
|
rhcl |
1200 time for lunch! |
| 17:06 |
|
|Lupin| |
1900 time for concert ! |
| 17:08 |
|
cait |
have fun! |
| 17:11 |
|
|Lupin| |
thanks ! |
| 17:11 |
|
|Lupin| |
bye cait, bye all ! |
| 17:18 |
|
paul_p |
ok, time to head back home. see ya tomorrow everybody ! |
| 17:18 |
|
pianohacker |
bye |
| 17:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 17:38 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:58 PM, July 10, 2009) |
| 18:58 |
|
Snow_Fox |
anyone know what the reason for the accountlines table is for? |
| 18:58 |
|
pianohacker |
Snow_Fox: I did answer that question last night, but unfortunately after you left |
| 18:58 |
|
owen |
It stores information about fines and charges |
| 18:58 |
|
pianohacker |
It keeps track of fines and payments |
| 18:58 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ah ok |
| 18:59 |
|
owen |
It's the table you update manually when you can't seem to get rid of that fine on a patron's account ;) |
| 18:59 |
|
Snow_Fox |
lol |
| 18:59 |
|
pianohacker |
It is the source of neverending headaches |
| 18:59 |
|
pianohacker |
We could go on |
| 19:00 |
|
Snow_Fox |
so in other words is a black hole where money goes |
| 19:00 |
|
Snow_Fox |
like congress |
| 19:01 |
|
owen |
Maybe if someone threw some money in it would get fixed! |
| 19:01 |
|
Snow_Fox |
why is there a ethnicity table |
| 19:02 |
|
Snow_Fox |
seems a little redundant imho |
| 19:03 |
|
pianohacker |
owen: True even if it is a bad pun |
| 19:04 |
|
owen |
ethnicity is a requirement of New Zealand systems |
| 19:04 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i suppose it makes sense in that context with different groups in different countrys need a easy way to add and remove data |
| 19:05 |
|
Snow_Fox |
without changing the hard code in the system |
| 19:05 |
|
Snow_Fox |
roatype prob falls under that same category doesnt it |
| 19:05 |
|
pianohacker |
Yup |
| 19:05 |
|
pianohacker |
Though there's talk of moving the roadtype table into authorised_values |
| 19:06 |
|
Snow_Fox |
services_throttle? |
| 19:06 |
|
pianohacker |
Added for the XISBN service |
| 19:07 |
|
pianohacker |
You can only use it 500 times a day, so Koha updates a counter in that table |
| 19:07 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i suppose i gotta ask what is XISBN |
| 19:07 |
|
Snow_Fox |
as a service |
| 19:07 |
|
pianohacker |
It's reset by the misc/cronjobs/services_throttle.pl |
| 19:07 |
|
pianohacker |
cronjob |
| 19:08 |
|
pianohacker |
It allows you to look up other editions of a book, based on its ISBN (it's technically xISBN, but koha miscapitalizes it in a few places) |
| 19:08 |
|
pianohacker |
Run by OCLC |
| 19:08 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ah |
| 19:08 |
|
Snow_Fox |
so where are the images for patrons technically stored |
| 19:08 |
|
Snow_Fox |
in the database or in a file on the server somehwere |
| 19:08 |
|
pianohacker |
In the database |
| 19:08 |
|
pianohacker |
I'm fairly certain |
| 19:09 |
|
Snow_Fox |
whats the limitations on image size and girth |
| 19:09 |
|
pianohacker |
Couldn't tell you that one. I think there's a data size limit, but image dimensions are really only limited by where it goes in the interface |
| 19:09 |
|
pianohacker |
I think the manual could tell you |
| 19:10 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hrm thats what i kinda figured when i played with it |
| 19:10 |
|
Snow_Fox |
according to schemaspy the firled is 16777215 |
| 19:10 |
|
Snow_Fox |
field |
| 19:11 |
|
pianohacker |
brb lunch |
| 19:34 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ok i gotta ask what is z3950 |
| 19:38 |
|
Snow_Fox |
language_rfc4646_to_iso639 |
| 19:38 |
|
Snow_Fox |
totally lost on |
| 19:40 |
|
rhcl |
Z3950 is a protocol to permit searching in other people's drawers |
| 19:40 |
|
rhcl |
or something like that |
| 19:40 |
|
rhcl |
Even I know that. |
| 19:40 |
|
rhcl |
Z39.50 is a client-server protocol for searching and retrieving information from remote computer databases. It is covered by ANSI/NISO standard Z39.50, and ISO standard 23950. The standard's maintenance agency is the Library of Congress |
| 19:41 |
|
Snow_Fox |
thats why it sounded familiar |
| 19:41 |
|
Snow_Fox |
it think its used to connect to various databases |
| 19:41 |
|
Snow_Fox |
from the looks of the table configuration |
| 19:42 |
|
rhcl |
yep |
| 19:47 |
|
Snow_Fox |
language_rfc4646_to_iso639 any idea what this table does? |
| 19:47 |
|
rhcl |
Is Koha Bath compliant? |
| 19:47 |
|
Snow_Fox |
besides maping characters from standard to another? |
| 20:07 |
|
Snow_Fox |
question on the types of Reports from SQL Tabular seems streight forward its just a list of items, sumary is also easy in that its a summation of items, however Matrix kinda baffles me, anyone know what this does? |
| 20:08 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
not sure, the french folks did the guided reports module i think |
| 20:09 |
|
Snow_Fox |
sacre bleu? |
| 20:20 |
|
atz |
Snow_Fox: just use tabular. the others don't do anything (reliably) afaik |
| 20:40 |
|
pianohacker |
Snow_Fox: I think the language_... table maps one kind of language identifier to another |
| 20:40 |
|
pianohacker |
Beats me why we don't just keep it in a data file, but hey |
| 20:48 |
|
richard |
hi |
| 20:50 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 20:50 |
|
Snow_Fox |
wow delayed answer |
| 20:50 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hurts the brain >.< |
| 20:50 |
|
Snow_Fox |
heya richard |
| 20:51 |
|
Snow_Fox |
thanks piano for the info |
| 20:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi chris |
| 20:54 |
|
chris |
heya galen |
| 20:58 |
|
Jo |
Good morning all |
| 20:58 |
|
rhcl |
Afternoon |
| 20:59 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi Jo |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
heya Jo |
| 21:31 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
anybody having problems with buying bibs from OCLC? |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
apart from the fact you have to buy them? |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:36 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
haha |
| 21:36 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
lol |
| 21:36 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
no...every time I buy one today, I get two |
| 21:36 |
|
Snow_Fox |
do you guys mess with overdrive at all? |
| 21:36 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
no |
| 21:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
Snow_Fox: there are at least a couple LL customers using it |
| 21:37 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
and they are not showing up when the barcode is on the book (I think because it's Koha) |
| 21:37 |
|
Snow_Fox |
someone said something about there being a workstation or computer i can buy that users can use like a OPAC |
| 21:37 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
so I don't know what is wrong, OCLC or Koha |
| 21:38 |
|
chris |
mib_0drkh8: are you using zebra? |
| 21:38 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
no, using oclc connexion...EZ cat |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
i mean with koha |
| 21:39 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
Koha is our program |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
and do you the the crontab set up to run rebuild_zebra.pl ? |
| 21:39 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
I don't know what zebra is |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
usually if things arent showing in searches, its becasue the indexes havent been built |
| 21:39 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
I know nothing about that |
| 21:40 |
|
chris |
ahhh, who set up Koha for you? |
| 21:40 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
we don't handle Koha |
| 21:40 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
Incolsa |
| 21:40 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
Liblime |
| 21:41 |
|
Snow_Fox |
Zebra btw is the search engine that Koha uses |
| 21:41 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
ok |
| 21:41 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
I guess I will have to go to Incolsa about it, then, but thankx |
| 21:41 |
|
chris |
ahhh in that case, id expect it was running |
| 21:41 |
|
chris |
yes might pay to ask incolsa |
| 21:42 |
|
chris |
sorry cant be more help |
| 21:42 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
thank you |
| 21:42 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
np |
| 21:42 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
it helped some |
| 21:42 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
lol |
| 21:42 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:42 |
|
Snow_Fox |
it all good mib |
| 21:42 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
:-) |
| 21:42 |
|
Snow_Fox |
im a koha noobie too |
| 21:42 |
|
Snow_Fox |
and already they are trying to make me program |
| 21:42 |
|
Snow_Fox |
RUN! |
| 21:42 |
|
Snow_Fox |
RUN FOR YOU LIFE! |
| 21:42 |
|
Snow_Fox |
:-P |
| 21:42 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 21:43 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
I don't wanna program, I can't keep up as it is.....koha is too damn complicated, either the book shows up, or it doesn't, or it shows up twice |
| 21:43 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
never consistent |
| 21:43 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
oops |
| 21:43 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
sorry for the language |
| 21:43 |
|
mason |
meh, param rail-line dwn due to slip .. |
| 21:43 |
|
chris |
thats just mean Snow_Fox |
| 21:43 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:44 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
don't think it would help..lol |
| 21:44 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i prefer the quick kill |
| 21:44 |
|
Snow_Fox |
:-P |
| 21:44 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
hehe |
| 21:49 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
well, thanks guys about time to wrap it up....maybe tomorrow I'll have some hair left |
| 21:49 |
|
mib_0drkh8 |
:) |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
good luck |
| 21:55 |
|
rhcl |
outta here |
| 21:55 |
|
dipanjan |
gmcharlt: ping |
| 21:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
dipanjan: pong |
| 21:55 |
|
dipanjan |
gmcharlt: where can I find the kohastruture.sql script? |
| 21:55 |
|
dipanjan |
s/kohastruture/kohastructure |
| 21:56 |
|
gmcharlt |
dipanjan: installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql |
| 21:56 |
|
gmcharlt |
from the root of the git clone or unpackaged tarball |
| 21:57 |
|
dipanjan |
gmcharlt: thanks |
| 21:57 |
|
dipanjan |
gmcharlt: thanks |
| 21:59 |
|
dipanjan |
gmcharlt: i found it under the unpacked tarball. thanks |
| 22:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
dipanjan: you're welcome |
| 22:11 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi |
| 22:12 |
|
|Lupin| |
pianohacker: here ? |
| 22:12 |
|
chris |
working late |Lupin| |
| 22:13 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: not really... jst spend a few minutes reading e-mails and saying good night |
| 22:13 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: how was your night ? :-) |
| 22:14 |
|
chris |
got some sleep, so not bad ;) |
| 22:15 |
|
|Lupin| |
ok |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
hmm is kansas internet still bustinated? |
| 22:59 |
|
Snow_Fox |
erm nopers |
| 23:00 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i did get some odd packet drops for a little bit |
| 23:00 |
|
Snow_Fox |
but that was a few hours ago |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
must be just sharon |
| 23:00 |
|
Snow_Fox |
apparently it was a issue in oklahoma city |
| 23:00 |
|
Snow_Fox |
anyways off to home |
| 23:00 |
|
Snow_Fox |
laters all |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
they probably are all out singing |
| 23:01 |
|
chris |
thats all i know about oklahoma |
| 23:35 |
|
|Lupin| |
bye all |
| 23:35 |
|
|Lupin| |
good night / day ! |
| 03:04 |
|
ebegin |
hey #koha! |
| 03:05 |
|
chris |
sup ebegin |
| 03:05 |
|
ebegin |
gmcharlt, I want to thank you for everything you did for koha's community |
| 03:05 |
|
chris |
he's not leaving, we wont let him :) |
| 03:05 |
|
chris |
at least not yet, he is still RM just not working at liblime :) |
| 03:06 |
|
ebegin |
chris: I'm in Gatineau, near ottawa to give a training for a client. Gatineau is about 2 hours from Montreal |
| 03:06 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 03:06 |
|
ebegin |
chris, true for gmcharlt |
| 03:06 |
|
ebegin |
gmcharlt, around? |
| 03:07 |
|
chris |
id imagine he is sleeping |
| 03:08 |
|
ebegin |
I guess so too |
| 03:21 |
|
chris |
ok, im off to head north to Levin for the farewell of Rosalie from HLT |
| 03:21 |
|
pianohacker |
Two farewells close together :/ |
| 03:21 |
|
ebegin |
so long |
| 03:21 |
|
pianohacker |
See ya |
| 03:22 |
|
chris |
ahh she is retiring from HLT ... which means more time for Koha :-) |
| 03:22 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh. That is a good thing. |
| 03:22 |
|
chris |
have a good weekend all |
| 03:22 |
|
ebegin |
it's not even friday over here :) |
| 03:22 |
|
pianohacker |
Thanks, you too |
| 03:23 |
|
pianohacker |
ebegin: Heh, yeah. Time zones are so strange |
| 03:34 |
|
ebegin |
Where should I start to check to know why koha are not sending emails? |
| 03:34 |
|
ebegin |
s/are/is/ |
| 03:36 |
|
ebegin |
ok, this is system related, not Koha related... so... |
| 03:37 |
|
pianohacker |
It usually is. Setting up SMTP is such a pain |
| 03:37 |
|
pianohacker |
Good night, all |
| 03:37 |
|
Amit |
hi chris, richards |
| 03:37 |
|
Amit |
good morning koha |
| 03:37 |
|
ebegin |
Amit, what about me? ;) |
| 03:37 |
|
CGI825 |
http://pastebin.com/m6b2fe58b |
| 03:37 |
|
ebegin |
kidding |
| 03:37 |
|
Amit |
sory |
| 03:37 |
|
Amit |
hi ebegin |
| 03:37 |
|
Amit |
morning |
| 03:37 |
|
CGI825 |
i can't find any good info online |
| 03:38 |
|
CGI825 |
and i'm pretty sure that all the pm's are installed |
| 03:38 |
|
ebegin |
CGI825, are you gp5st? |
| 03:39 |
|
CGI825 |
yes |
| 03:39 |
|
ebegin |
:) |
| 03:39 |
|
CGI825 |
i forgot to change my name when i started the apllet here |
| 03:39 |
|
CGI825 |
applet* |
| 03:39 |
|
ebegin |
np |
| 03:40 |
|
CGI825 |
i didn't even see the server until after |
| 03:40 |
|
ebegin |
My first be would be to check you permissions. What type of install did you do? |
| 03:40 |
|
CGI825 |
maybe it's late and this is just easy, but i just can't think of what to check or do |
| 03:40 |
|
CGI825 |
standard install |
| 03:40 |
|
CGI825 |
all the defaults, except no zoom |
| 03:41 |
|
CGI825 |
maybe i should just del everything and start a new computer form scratch? |
| 03:41 |
|
ebegin |
I guess that you already checked that the files actually exist |
| 03:42 |
|
CGI825 |
yes, i looked at it |
| 03:42 |
|
CGI825 |
and it's a module import, and i tried to install the module, but it said it was installed |
| 03:45 |
|
ebegin |
when are you getting this message^ |
| 03:45 |
|
CGI825 |
when i nav to localhost:8080 |
| 03:46 |
|
ebegin |
do you get something when accesing just localhost |
| 03:47 |
|
CGI825 |
no |
| 03:47 |
|
CGI825 |
i don't have that set up |
| 03:48 |
|
CGI825 |
i could enable it |
| 03:48 |
|
CGI825 |
or just rm -rf / and start from scratch, as this whole machine is just being stubborn |
| 03:48 |
|
ebegin |
hmmm... you should have something like Koha is under maintenance... |
| 03:48 |
|
ebegin |
which OS? |
| 03:49 |
|
CGI825 |
debian |
| 03:49 |
|
ebegin |
ok. the INSTALL.debian file is really straightforward |
| 03:49 |
|
CGI825 |
2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu |
| 03:49 |
|
ebegin |
Ubunto then, not debian. |
| 03:51 |
|
CGI825 |
true, i've considered them the same...i guess i should stop that |
| 03:53 |
|
ebegin |
If I were you, I would switch to debian (if this is possible, of course) |
| 03:54 |
|
CGI825 |
i'm just going through it again; i must have missed something; sorry it's late |
| 03:59 |
|
CGI825 |
http://www.docunext.com/blog/2[…]ocal-version.html solved an issue i was having with apt installing some things |
| 04:00 |
|
CGI825 |
and the issue, now just to make sure the db is set up properly |
| 04:00 |
|
CGI825 |
thanks:) |
| 05:44 |
|
|Lupin| |
good morning #koha |
| 05:47 |
|
Amit |
hi lupin |
| 06:22 |
|
|Lupin| |
hey Amit |
| 06:24 |
|
ebegin |
good night all! |
| 06:39 |
|
|Lupin| |
bonjour laurence |
| 06:40 |
|
laurence |
hello |Lupin| |
| 06:49 |
|
|Lupin| |
any git user around, pls ? |
| 06:58 |
|
|Lupin| |
hey nahuel |
| 07:02 |
|
greenmang0 |
@wunder mumbai |
| 07:02 |
|
munin |
greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0°C (12:10 PM IST on July 24, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:17 |
|
|Lupin| |
@wunder paris |
| 07:17 |
|
munin |
|Lupin|: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:17 |
|
|Lupin| |
@wunder Paris |
| 07:17 |
|
munin |
|Lupin|: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:18 |
|
hdl_laptop |
|Lupin|: ? |
| 07:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: yes ? |
| 07:29 |
|
hdl_laptop |
|Lupin|: hi, you said you wanted a git user. |
| 07:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: yep |
| 07:30 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: because I had a small problem |
| 07:30 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: but I could solve it actually, thanks |
| 07:30 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: just one quick thing: do some tables in the db contain informations about countries ? |
| 07:31 |
|
hdl_laptop |
authorized_values should containe COUNTRY |
| 07:32 |
|
hdl_laptop |
you have it in installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/authorisedvalues. |
| 07:32 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: yes but I mean |
| 07:32 |
|
|Lupin| |
I don't see a column in the db which can contain a country name |
| 07:32 |
|
|Lupin| |
I was looking for that |
| 07:33 |
|
|Lupin| |
because I wanted to add such a lolumn to a table and wanted to see how they are declared in other tables |
| 07:34 |
|
hdl_laptop |
oh.... |
| 07:35 |
|
hdl_laptop |
|Lupin|: in fact you can use such authorised_values in Patron_attribute |
| 07:35 |
|
hdl_laptop |
|Lupin|: or in MARC fwk |
| 07:37 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: yes... and for the moment there is no column which can contain a country per se in the database, right ? |
| 07:37 |
|
hdl_laptop |
no sir |
| 07:37 |
|
|Lupin| |
:) |
| 07:38 |
|
|Lupin| |
what ould a nice type be for country names ? |
| 07:38 |
|
|Lupin| |
mediumtext ? |
| 07:38 |
|
hdl_laptop |
text |
| 07:39 |
|
|Lupin| |
okay, thanks |
| 08:20 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: I'd like to submit a patch that adds a few columns we need to the branches table. Would you agree to review it before it is submitted to koha-patches, please ? |
| 08:34 |
|
hdl_laptop |
yes. |
| 08:36 |
|
|Lupin| |
ok, thanks a lot. Could you please tell me to which address it should be sent ? |
| 10:07 |
|
hdl_laptop |
patcheskoha.org |
