| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:15 |
|
vedran |
is there any Linux plication equivalent to Marc Edit? |
| 12:15 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: not as far as I know |
| 12:16 |
|
gmcharlt |
vedran: nothing that covers the whole panapoly |
| 12:16 |
|
gmcharlt |
but you can run MarcEdit on mono |
| 12:16 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: hi |
| 12:16 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi gmcharlt |
| 12:17 |
|
vedran |
gmcharlt: OK, I guess there are some tools that I see on sourceforge.net, but I do not know all their features and how they work in practise |
| 12:19 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: what do you need to do ? |
| 12:20 |
|
vedran |
|Lupin|: I need to transfer existing library data into Marc21 format |
| 12:20 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: and the existing system does not provide an export to marc21 feature ? |
| 12:21 |
|
vedran |
|Lupin|: no, existing system is a sort of very basic application based on ph/mysql |
| 12:22 |
|
vedran |
|Lupin|: I can try to export as csv and then try to generate Marc21 |
| 12:22 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: why not, yes |
| 12:23 |
|
vedran |
I want to see is there anything in Linux that can do it |
| 12:23 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: if you are a bit familiar with perl |
| 12:23 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: you may want to use MARC::Record |
| 12:23 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: IMO it's wrth learning to use this module, and there is a good tutorial for it |
| 12:23 |
|
vedran |
|Lupin|: I am not perl developer |
| 12:24 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: ok |
| 12:24 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: then I have no suggesiton, sorry |
| 12:24 |
|
vedran |
|Lupin|: ok, thanks, where I can find documentation for it |
| 12:25 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: for what ? |
| 12:25 |
|
ebegin |
vedran, you may have overlooked gmcharlt comment. You may be able to run MarcEdit on Linux by using mono (http://mono-project.com/) |
| 12:25 |
|
vedran |
|Lupin|: Marc::Record |
| 12:26 |
|
|Lupin| |
vedran: perldoc MARC::Doc::Tutorial |
| 12:28 |
|
vedran |
ebegin: thanks |
| 12:28 |
|
vedran |
I have to ho now, bbl |
| 12:45 |
|
|Lupin| |
brb |
| 14:28 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hey RHCL |
| 14:28 |
|
Snow_Fox |
sorry about Kansas being in the wash cycle more comming your way |
| 14:30 |
|
rhcl |
Hey hey |
| 14:30 |
|
rhcl |
We've got decent WX here right now. |
| 14:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's byoootiful in Lawrence |
| 14:30 |
|
rhcl |
Sun shining, not too hot (yet)... |
| 14:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
@wunder Lawrence, KS |
| 14:30 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 21.0°C (9:30 AM CDT on July 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:31 |
|
Snow_Fox |
its spiffy here |
| 14:32 |
|
rhcl |
Morning (afternoon?) slef |
| 14:43 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hey when i worked fast food, i gave up trying to keep track of what time period i was in and would sometimes go |
| 14:43 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hey good temperal period to ya |
| 14:45 |
|
rhcl |
I am a little confusted... |
| 14:46 |
|
jdavidb |
@wunder bethesda, md |
| 14:46 |
|
munin |
jdavidb: The current temperature in WRC-Tenlytown, Washington, District of Columbia is 28.9°C (10:46 AM EDT on July 17, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:46 |
|
rhcl |
I used to live in Laurel. |
| 14:46 |
|
jdavidb |
Hotter here than in Kansas? Wow. |
| 14:46 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hey were def colder |
| 14:46 |
|
Snow_Fox |
kansas is the land of extremes |
| 14:48 |
|
jdavidb |
I would expect that, in the winter...but in the middle of summer? |
| 14:49 |
|
Snow_Fox |
its Kansas :-P |
| 14:57 |
|
nicomo |
magnusenger: around? |
| 15:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
owen: what plugin are you using to display code on your blog? |
| 15:56 |
|
owen |
http://www.beyondcoding.com/20[…]highlighter-plus/ |
| 15:56 |
|
owen |
...but I guess I should be looking at http://wordpress.org/extend/pl[…]yntaxhighlighter/ |
| 15:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
owen: awesome, thanks |
| 15:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
you are cranking out some sweet posts these days :) |
| 15:57 |
|
owen |
Yeah, I just have to pick some other things to neglect ;) |
| 15:58 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen++ |
| 16:00 |
|
owen |
Hey, anyone know of a good example of an OPAC which ties record URLs to a session so they can't be shared? |
| 16:09 |
|
owen |
Hmmm... Maybe not such a common problem anymore? |
| 16:18 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: Cool, looks like you're home safe |
| 16:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: buried in cats, but safe |
| 16:19 |
|
pianohacker |
owen: You mean like http://.../opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=800 ? |
| 16:19 |
|
pianohacker |
Heheh |
| 16:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: no, more like http://..../&sessionid=5482u9pgrjkl089543809&second_session_id=2398ewjkvbdsfdsafdsa - that sort of think |
| 16:21 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah, yes. Verso spits out urls like that, I believe |
| 16:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin[…]90717122058&SID=1 |
| 16:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: from LC's catalog |
| 16:22 |
|
owen |
That works for me. Will it expire? |
| 16:22 |
|
gmcharlt |
although to be fair, they also have a more reasonably permalink |
| 16:22 |
|
gmcharlt |
http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin[…]26%22&v3=1&CNT=10 |
| 16:22 |
|
pianohacker |
http://nexus-verso.auto-graphi[…]9c73-35f924f6828b |
| 17:03 |
|
atz |
owen: yeah, LOC is a punk that way |
| 18:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
owen: sirsi ties catalog searches to a session |
| 18:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
at least it used to |
| 18:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://kcaqua.kclibrary.org/re[…]ame=1247854457986 |
| 18:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
lordy |
| 18:25 |
|
pianohacker |
Has anyone else been getting emails from SMECC when sending to the Koha mailing list? |
| 18:25 |
|
owen |
Yes |
| 18:25 |
|
owen |
If enough of us email back and complain maybe they'll turn it off |
| 18:25 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah, good. Where did I put my DDOS botnet... |
| 18:25 |
|
pianohacker |
I'll show them a complaint |
| 18:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
if we don't hear from them in the next day or two, I'm going to ask chris to remove them from the Koha mailing list |
| 18:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
absolutely unacceptable behavior |
| 18:26 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: Sounds good |
| 18:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
but I'll assume that they're being clueness for now rather than malicious |
| 18:29 |
|
pianohacker |
What's even better is that they include the usual annoying and pointless confidentiality warning, too |
| 18:33 |
|
pianohacker |
brb |
| 18:42 |
|
jdavidb |
gmcharlt: Another believer in Hanlon's Razor, I see. :) Me too. Cluelessness is far more common than malice. |
| 18:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
indeed |
| 18:59 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 19:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi chris |
| 19:00 |
|
rhcl |
hi chris |
| 19:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
Chris, happy weekend |
| 19:09 |
|
chris |
so far so good |
| 19:09 |
|
chris |
kahu and I are watching maisy under blankets on the couch |
| 19:10 |
|
rhcl |
Is maisy cold? |
| 19:11 |
|
owen |
:P |
| 19:11 |
|
chris |
yeah, i needed some comma's in there :) |
| 19:11 |
|
chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
| 19:11 |
|
munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on July 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:11 |
|
rhcl |
Oh, maisy isn't under the blankets. |
| 19:13 |
|
chris |
maisy is currently in a library, and charlie is being loud |
| 19:17 |
|
rhcl |
maisy must not be cereal |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
yeah, charlie is awesome |
| 19:18 |
|
chris |
big crocodile that laughs all the time |
| 19:18 |
|
owen |
Now see what we did chris? Patches will lie untouched while gmcharlt immerses himself in Maisy mythology |
| 19:18 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:18 |
|
chris |
welcome to our world :) |
| 19:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
well, since my rugrats have four legs apiece, not much worry of that :-P |
| 19:18 |
|
owen |
Actually I'm kinda bummed because Maisy isn't on anymore here. Thatcher's never even seen it |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
ohhh thats a shame |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
(we have dvd's) |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
safer than watching tv |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
you dont get ambushed by little einsteins |
| 19:20 |
|
chris |
which makes me want to throw things at the tv |
| 19:20 |
|
owen |
How else are the tykes going to get indoctrinated into the white male perspective? |
| 19:21 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:21 |
|
chris |
words of wisdom from kahu just now "I love wheelbarrows!" |
| 19:21 |
|
chris |
i have no idea where that one came from |
| 19:25 |
|
chris |
wizzyrea: you feeling any better? |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/2[…]-All-Blacks-storm |
| 19:33 |
|
chris |
(nz vs australia in rugby tonight... thats all ppl will be talking about for the day) |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
hi sekjal |
| 19:53 |
|
sekjal |
does anyone in here know what would happen if I tried to import a MARC record with multiple subfield 'o' in the 952 field? |
| 19:53 |
|
sekjal |
hi, chris |
| 19:54 |
|
pianohacker |
Multiple callnumbers? I think Koha would just use the first one |
| 19:54 |
|
sekjal |
that's what I'm hoping |
| 19:54 |
|
pianohacker |
The others _might_ be kept in more_subfields_xml, but I wouldn't count on it |
| 19:54 |
|
Snow_Fox |
im gonna go out on a limb here and say chaos destruction end of days type thing |
| 19:54 |
|
Snow_Fox |
but thena gian |
| 19:54 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i dont know Koha that well |
| 19:55 |
|
pianohacker |
Snow_Fox: How are your Koha escapades going these days? |
| 19:55 |
|
Snow_Fox |
going well enough |
| 19:55 |
|
chris |
i think it will use the first one, and all of them will exist in the xml, until you edit it |
| 19:55 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i think i have a handle of the system basics and how to fiddle with stuff |
| 19:55 |
|
chris |
thats my guess anyway |
| 19:55 |
|
Snow_Fox |
still havnt a clue about MARC and other biblio stuff cause i didnt start life as a Librarian |
| 19:55 |
|
Snow_Fox |
but it goes |
| 19:56 |
|
pianohacker |
sekjal: (01:55:37 PM) chris: i think it will use the first one, and all of them will exist in the xml, until you edit it |
| 19:56 |
|
pianohacker |
I know enough MARC to get around and little enough not to go insane, just through having to work with it |
| 19:57 |
|
sekjal |
sorry for disappearing... using the Mibbit widgit on my iGoogle page. need to stop that |
| 19:57 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
screen + irssi = never disappearing :) |
| 19:58 |
|
sekjal |
so, Koha will likely grab the first itemcallnumber it sees, and ignore a second |
| 19:58 |
|
pianohacker |
Yup |
| 19:58 |
|
sekjal |
good |
| 19:58 |
|
pianohacker |
The other item subfields should be much the same |
| 19:59 |
|
sekjal |
I'm trying to come up with a way to put our biblio level call numbers into our items, unless an item level call number already exists |
| 20:00 |
|
pianohacker |
sekjal: I _think_ the itemcallnumber system preference will do that for you |
| 20:00 |
|
pianohacker |
Not sure if it will do so on import, YMMV |
| 20:01 |
|
sekjal |
I'll investigate. I need to do another import with my updated XSLT, |
| 20:02 |
|
sekjal |
and we're also working to standardize all our call numbers into the 090 field |
| 20:02 |
|
sekjal |
(currently mixed 090 and 050) |
| 21:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
chris: I feel less icky than yesterday. But still icky :P |
| 21:16 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: Ouch. Icky in what way? |
| 21:25 |
|
chris |
hopefully you get some sleep over the weekend |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
um... half cold-like and half flu-like |
| 21:29 |
|
rhcl |
Cold Swine Flu? |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh snap |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
probably |
| 21:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
Bacon Flu? |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol |
| 21:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
mmm bacon |
| 21:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
sorry :) |
| 21:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
get well soon |
| 21:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
nah I like it, that amuses me |
| 21:30 |
|
pianohacker |
If it's Cold Bacon Flu, I have _exactly_ the cure for that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9dskxN10N0 |
| 21:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
but ty, I hope to get well soon |
| 21:30 |
|
chris |
mmm bacon |
| 21:31 |
|
chris |
its brunch day today |
| 21:31 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh |
| 21:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
...wow... simply... |
| 21:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
wow |
| 21:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
pianohacker: that is, I have no words |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
which basically consist of getting everything done so that there is utterly no need to be in town from about 5pm onwards |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
hehe that is pretty special |
| 21:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
Flaming bacon may become my new favorite curse |
| 21:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
"holy flaming bacon batman!" |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
hehe thats yet another thing laurel misses from america |
| 21:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
bacon? |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
the cut of it |
| 21:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
ahh |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
we dont do the streaky strips, fried until they break |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
mostly shoulder bacon here |
| 21:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
then, what do you do with the belly? |
| 21:34 |
|
pianohacker |
Bacon's just not the same unless it's ridiculously unhealthy |
| 21:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
pianohacker speaks truth |
| 21:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think) |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
well you can get belly too |
| 21:35 |
|
jdavidb |
Now, how to get Munin to add that line from wizzyrea ... |
| 21:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
but you have to ask for "belly bacon" |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
shoulder is actually more fatter |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 21:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
hrm. |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
well middle bacon |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
http://www.freedomfarms.co.nz/[…]shoulderbacon.asp |
| 21:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
I like pork in general. I think I'd be ok with this |
| 21:36 |
|
chris |
is what is in my fridge |
| 21:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol jdavidb |
| 21:37 |
|
chris |
http://www.freedomfarms.co.nz/[…]/streakybacon.asp <--- might have to find this next time |
| 21:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's really "streaky bacon" |
| 21:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
like, that's the term for it? |
| 21:37 |
|
chris |
@quote add < wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think) |
| 21:37 |
|
munin |
chris: The operation succeeded. Quote #16 added. |
| 21:37 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 21:37 |
|
chris |
nzers are kinda literal |
| 21:38 |
|
pianohacker |
Streaky doesn't immediately sound like something I'd want in my food |
| 21:38 |
|
pianohacker |
"Sorry Dad, the ham went all streaky, had to throw it out" |
| 21:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
kind of reminds me of windows |
| 21:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
the glass things, not the OS |
| 21:38 |
|
jdavidb |
@quote add <wizzyrea>"holy flaming bacon batman!" |
| 21:38 |
|
munin |
jdavidb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 21:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
@help register |
| 21:38 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: (register <name> <password>) -- Registers <name> with the given password <password> and the current hostmask of the person registering. You shouldn't register twice; if you're not recognized as a user but you've already registered, use the hostmask add command to add another hostmask to your already-registered user, or use the identify command to identify just for a session. This (1 more message) |
| 21:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
@more |
| 21:38 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: command (and all other commands that include a password) must be sent to the bot privately, not in a channel. |
| 21:39 |
|
rhcl |
So how much does a pound (how many grams is that?) of bacon in NZ? |
| 21:39 |
|
rhcl |
cost I mean |
| 21:39 |
|
gmcharlt |
@gcalc 1 lb in grams |
| 21:39 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: 1 pound = 453.59237 grams |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
lemme check woolworths online |
| 21:39 |
|
rhcl |
Can you imbed munin commands? |
| 21:40 |
|
jdavidb |
@quote add <wizzyrea> "holy flaming bacon batman!" |
| 21:40 |
|
munin |
jdavidb: The operation succeeded. Quote #17 added. |
| 21:40 |
|
jdavidb |
Better. :D |
| 21:40 |
|
rhcl |
So how much does a @gcalc 1 lb in grams of bacon cost in NZ? |
| 21:40 |
|
rhcl |
No |
| 21:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
@google price of bacon in NZ |
| 21:40 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: What's really in your bacon? - Manufacturing - NZ Herald News: <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/manu[…]objectid=10576920>; Makin' bacon - features - waikato-times | Stuff.co.nz: <http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato[…]68358/Makin-bacon>; JSTOR: Wartime Agriculture in Australia and New Zealand, 1939-50: (2 more messages) |
| 21:40 |
|
pianohacker |
rhcl: Some commands do parse whatever you say (that's bug 2343) |
| 21:40 |
|
munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2343 major, P3, ---, joe.atzberger liblime.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Memberentrygen should not give a default expiry date |
| 21:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
@more |
| 21:40 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: <http://links.jstor.org/sici?si[…]AN%3E2.0.CO%3B2-N>; Francisco Bacon price | The Nile - Compare Prices & Save shopping ...: <http://www.getprice.com.au/Fra[…]302--33892445.htm>; Bacon, Ham and Smallgood Manufacturing in Australia - Industry ...: <http://www.just-food.com/store[…]uct.aspx?id=78087>; New Zealand 1855 Perkins (1 more message) |
| 21:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
@more |
| 21:40 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Bacon Chalon stamp set sells for $380542.00: <http://www.glenstephens.com/snapril06.html>; Bacon, Ham and Smallgood Manufacturing Industry Research in ...: <http://www.ibisworld.com.au/in[…]ult.aspx?indid=92>; In The Sticks - R L Bacon for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand: <http://www.trademe.co.nz/Books[…]ion-230048262.htm> |
| 21:41 |
|
chris |
right |
| 21:41 |
|
pianohacker |
rhcl: And of course karma (parsing++) |
| 21:41 |
|
chris |
$8.95 for 400grams |
| 21:41 |
|
chris |
of streaky |
| 21:41 |
|
rhcl |
So how much does a '@gcalc 1 lb in grams' of bacon cost in NZ? |
| 21:41 |
|
rhcl |
OH wow. |
| 21:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
wow seriously |
| 21:42 |
|
chris |
@gcalc 8.95 nzd in USD |
| 21:42 |
|
munin |
chris: 8.95 New Zealand dollars = 5.753955 U.S. dollars |
| 21:42 |
|
chris |
there ya go |
| 21:42 |
|
pianohacker |
@gcalc 5.75 * 2.5 |
| 21:42 |
|
munin |
pianohacker: 5.75 * 2.5 = 14.37500 |
| 21:42 |
|
chris |
yeah we export most of ours |
| 21:42 |
|
pianohacker |
So $14.38 per kg |
| 21:42 |
|
rhcl |
$2.50 for 453.59237 grams here. About 1/2 NZ. |
| 21:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea if you get the cheapie stuff (and don't let them lie, there *is* a difference :P) |
| 21:43 |
|
chris |
its the same with fish, we can get a much better price exporting |
| 21:43 |
|
chris |
so it keeps the price up for local |
| 21:43 |
|
rhcl |
If Kohacon is in NZ next year we need to take chris some bacon. |
| 21:43 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 21:43 |
|
chris |
you wont get that through the airport :) |
| 21:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
doh! |
| 21:44 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, that'll be considered terrorist material-biohazard or something. |
| 21:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
do you ever get tired of answering (dumb) questions about NZ? |
| 21:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
(mostly from me) |
| 21:45 |
|
chris |
http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/enter/declare |
| 21:45 |
|
chris |
we dont care about terrorists |
| 21:46 |
|
chris |
well not as much as we care about rabies, and TB |
| 21:46 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:46 |
|
chris |
liv tyler was famously fined $250 instantly for trying to bring in an apple undeclared |
| 21:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
silly actresses |
| 21:47 |
|
rhcl |
That's fifty pounds of bacon worth in one apple. |
| 21:47 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 21:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
mmm bacon and apples *drool* |
| 21:48 |
|
chris |
traveling tip, just declare anything you are even slightly unsure of |
| 21:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
and that NZ bacon producer chris sent suggests wrapping prunes in bacon. Best. Idea. Ever. |
| 21:49 |
|
rhcl |
And you do what with that? Bake it? |
| 21:49 |
|
Snow_Fox |
prunes in bacon? |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
oh yeah, that is good |
| 21:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
I"d guess you'd fry it |
| 21:49 |
|
pianohacker |
Deep fry that sucker |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
bake it normally |
| 21:49 |
|
Snow_Fox |
.... |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
but yeah, you americans would probably fry it |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
and then put peanut butter and chocolate on it |
| 21:49 |
|
pianohacker |
I wonder if you can deep fry bacon |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 21:49 |
|
Snow_Fox |
........ |
| 21:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
you can deep fry anything |
| 21:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
:P |
| 21:50 |
|
Snow_Fox |
:\ was hungry but no more |
| 21:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
my hometown has a treat that is rye bread and swedish meatballs, dipped in batter and deep fried |
| 21:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
the "viking on a stick" |
| 21:50 |
|
chris |
lol |
| 21:50 |
|
pianohacker |
Elvis was a fan of peanut butter and bacon sandwiches |
| 21:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
which is both hilarious and slightly unsettling |
| 21:50 |
|
pianohacker |
Dear god |
| 21:50 |
|
Snow_Fox |
Lindsborg? |
| 21:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
yep, in your neighborhood |
| 21:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 21:51 |
|
Snow_Fox |
im so going next time |
| 21:51 |
|
Snow_Fox |
just for viking on a stick |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol |
| 21:51 |
|
chris |
the nz thing is not deep frying everything, its sticking it into a pie |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
ooh, pie |
| 21:51 |
|
Snow_Fox |
just to disturb people with |
| 21:51 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hehe |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's too bad they don't give them horns |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
I think they onlyl do them at hyllningsfest |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
every 2 year |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
s |
| 21:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
for tacos :P |
| 21:52 |
|
Snow_Fox |
im looking forward to good fajitas tonight |
| 21:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
ooh also good |
| 21:52 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ie where the onions are nicely carmeled |
| 21:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
with bacon! |
| 21:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh wait |
| 21:52 |
|
Snow_Fox |
you and my girl friend would def get along |
| 21:52 |
|
rhcl |
Our local Long John Silver's is selling fish tacos now. Doesn't sound particularly great to me. |
| 21:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 21:53 |
|
Snow_Fox |
i noticed it at mine too |
| 21:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
fish tacos (for eating) can be amazing |
| 21:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
but they have got to be fresh |
| 21:53 |
|
Snow_Fox |
pass |
| 21:53 |
|
Snow_Fox |
wizzy stop messign with my appitite |
| 21:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
fajitas! |
| 21:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
my roommate in college used to make water chestnuts, wrapped in bacon, and baked in bbq sauce |
| 21:54 |
|
pianohacker |
Snow_Fox: fresh macaroni and cheese with cheddar, pepperjack, parmesan and mozzarella |
| 21:55 |
|
pianohacker |
Mom made that last night, was pretty much fantastic |
| 21:55 |
|
jdavidb |
Fish tacos are yummy! I had some when I was in San Diego. |
| 21:55 |
|
Snow_Fox |
the chicken carbonara from Martinelles here in salina |
| 21:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
the best ones I've had (fish tacos) were in hawaii |
| 21:55 |
|
Snow_Fox |
has bacon fresh choped green onions with ham and smothered with alfrado sauce |
| 21:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
mac and cheese, yum |
| 21:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
carbonara = yummy too |
| 21:56 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 21:56 |
|
rhcl |
bacon, lettuce and tom sandwich |
| 21:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
OMG |
| 21:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
my favorite thing ever AND i have garden tomatoes! |
| 21:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
must remember to get lettuce... |
| 21:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
what sucks is that in our climate the lettuce is a spring veg and tomatoes are heartily entrenched in summer |
| 21:57 |
|
pianohacker |
rhcl: Homemade ones of those are pretty good |
| 21:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
so it's tough to get garden lettuce and garrden tomatoes at the same time |
| 21:57 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: Ahh, so you can't localvore a good BLT? |
| 21:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
well you *can* |
| 21:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
but you have to replant your lettuce in early june |
| 21:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
or mid june, or somesuch |
| 21:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
ok, gotta go, peps |
| 21:58 |
|
pianohacker |
bye |
| 21:58 |
|
Snow_Fox |
kk |
| 21:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
ty for the most amusing end to a friday I've had in a while. |
| 21:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 21:58 |
|
Snow_Fox |
BACON! |
| 21:59 |
|
pianohacker |
Hey, my productivity is going to be pretty much busted till dinner, I don't think that's so amusing |
| 21:59 |
|
chris |
cya later |
| 22:02 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, think I'm outta here too... |
| 22:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
exactly why you keep him around? ;) |
| 22:18 |
|
jdavidb |
Her. Yes, she's good for that sort of thing, gmcharlt. People ask me why I call her "Minion". I usually calmly point out that good guys have "Sidekicks." |
| 22:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
gotcha |
| 23:25 |
|
pianohacker |
Good night |
| 04:18 |
|
chris |
afternoon |
| 04:37 |
|
thd |
chris: I am trying to reconfigure a small Koha with a test set of records but Zebra keeps showing me the previous large test set. |
| 04:39 |
|
thd |
s/Zebra/something mysterious/ |
| 04:39 |
|
chris |
have you done a rebuild_zebra.pl -r |
| 04:39 |
|
chris |
to reset |
| 04:39 |
|
chris |
(ie delete and rebuild the indexes) |
| 04:39 |
|
thd |
yes but as a bare command that fails |
| 04:40 |
|
chris |
with what message? |
| 04:40 |
|
thd |
it must be rebuild_zebra -b or -a with -r |
| 04:40 |
|
chris |
yeah thats right |
| 04:40 |
|
chris |
so give it a b :) |
| 04:40 |
|
chris |
-r -b |
| 04:40 |
|
chris |
or -a (if you want to rebuild the authorities) |
| 04:40 |
|
thd |
must the -r come first? |
| 04:40 |
|
chris |
doesnt matter |
| 04:41 |
|
thd |
should not matter |
| 04:41 |
|
thd |
I have done it many times |
| 04:41 |
|
chris |
put a -v there too |
| 04:41 |
|
chris |
so you can see what its doing |
| 04:41 |
|
chris |
and do you run at as the same user who runs the cron job? |
| 04:42 |
|
thd |
I ran as root. |
| 04:42 |
|
chris |
because if you are running it with a user that doesnt have permissions to update the files, they wont be updated |
| 04:42 |
|
thd |
root must have permissions must it not |
| 04:42 |
|
thd |
I have checked and the files are updated |
| 04:42 |
|
chris |
run it with -v |
| 04:42 |
|
chris |
ull see how many its updating that way |
| 04:48 |
|
thd |
-v is an unsupported option in one version but I have found another instance of Koha or Zebra perhaps running on the machine |
| 04:48 |
|
chris |
that would do it, if you are rebuilding one, and another one is being searched |
| 04:50 |
|
thd |
yes, that is it. I have been testing the wrong database |
| 04:50 |
|
thd |
:) |
| 04:53 |
|
thd |
I should have looked more carefully at which Koha instance was being served by Apache. |
| 05:04 |
|
greenmang0 |
@wunder mumbai |
| 05:04 |
|
munin |
greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0°C (10:10 AM IST on July 18, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:08 |
|
chris |
pretty warm |
| 08:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi all |
| 08:41 |
|
chris |
hi |Lupin| |
| 08:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
hello chris ! |
| 08:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
how are you ? |
| 08:43 |
|
chris |
good thanks |
| 08:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
great |
| 08:49 |
|
|Lupin| |
is there something special to tell to cpan so that it installs modules in the user's home directory rather than system-wide ? |
| 08:51 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 08:51 |
|
chris |
when configuring it |
| 08:51 |
|
chris |
you can give it a prefix to install them in |
| 08:52 |
|
chris |
https://help.webfaction.com/in[…]e&kbarticleid=132 |
| 08:52 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: ah I didn't do that, thanks. |
| 08:56 |
|
|Lupin| |
it's strange: step 1 is okay, so I jumped to step 3, which is installing modules, but this didn't work. |
| 08:57 |
|
chris |
you need to do step 2, the configure part of it |
| 08:57 |
|
chris |
you can go |
| 08:57 |
|
chris |
cpan -e shell |
| 08:57 |
|
chris |
and then restart the configuration |
| 08:58 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: I did a cpan initialize and this seemed to work... |
| 08:58 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: however I selected automatic configuration. Should I rather use a manual configuration ? |
| 08:58 |
|
chris |
thats right |
| 08:59 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: ok so let's redo that :) |
| 08:59 |
|
chris |
you need to do it manually and when you get to the question about parameters for Makefile.PL |
| 08:59 |
|
chris |
put in something similair to that webpage |
| 09:06 |
|
|Lupin| |
oho |
| 09:06 |
|
|Lupin| |
just pressed enter to the question... |
| 09:07 |
|
chris |
whoops |
| 09:07 |
|
chris |
have to get to the end and start again |
| 09:07 |
|
|Lupin| |
guess there is no way to go to previous question :) |
| 09:07 |
|
|Lupin| |
oh maybe it's not too late actually |
| 09:08 |
|
|Lupin| |
the question for which I pressed enter had 'site' as a default |
| 09:08 |
|
chris |
right |
| 09:09 |
|
|Lupin| |
oh no it's too late actually |
| 09:09 |
|
|Lupin| |
now it's asking for the parameters for make |
| 09:09 |
|
|Lupin| |
make_arg |
| 09:10 |
|
chris |
yeah its the Makefile.PL one you want |
| 09:10 |
|
|Lupin| |
Parameters for the 'perl Makefile.PL' command? [INSTALLDIRS=site] was the previous one |
| 09:10 |
|
|Lupin| |
I think it's there I had to give the right parameters... will have to restart :) |
| 09:11 |
|
|Lupin| |
actually I think it is possible to reconfigure just one variable... |
| 09:21 |
|
chris |
yes thats right |
| 09:21 |
|
chris |
i cant remember the syntax tho |
| 09:21 |
|
chris |
right, nz just beat australia .. now i can watch prince caspian and relax :) |
| 09:22 |
|
|Lupin| |
:-))) |
| 09:22 |
|
|Lupin| |
is it rugby you are talking about ? |
| 09:22 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 09:23 |
|
|Lupin| |
k :) |
| 09:28 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: will there be something special to do at koha install time so that the fresshly installed perl modules (in home dir) are found ? |
| 09:29 |
|
chris |
you probably need to set PERL5LIB before running perl Makefile.PL so it looks in the right place |
| 09:31 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: ok, done already. And with that, even when the script will be run by apache, it will know where to look ? |
| 09:31 |
|
chris |
nope |
| 09:31 |
|
chris |
you will need to edit the koha-httpd.conf |
| 09:32 |
|
chris |
to make sure the PERL5LIB there includes where the koha modules are, plus where you installed the modules via cpan |
| 09:42 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: okay, thanks a lot |
| 09:42 |
|
chris |
np |
| 10:37 |
|
martinmorris |
hello, i'm having trouble indexing with zebra, anybody who can assist? |
| 10:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: not sure, but e can try |
| 10:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: what is your problem exactly ? |
| 10:43 |
|
martinmorris |
actually i might have sorted it, although i'm not sure my export directories are set up entirely correctly |
| 10:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: ok |
| 10:43 |
|
martinmorris |
can you say what the permissions should be on my /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios and authorities directories? |
| 10:44 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: I'd say they have to be readable by the user which is running apache |
| 10:44 |
|
martinmorris |
ah |
| 10:44 |
|
martinmorris |
and the koha user as well? |
| 10:45 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: and also if you have a cron job for the indexing the user running this job must be able to write there, I assume |
| 10:45 |
|
martinmorris |
so that would be a cron job running rebuild_zebra.pl? |
| 10:45 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: by koha user you mean the one that logs in to the staff client ? |
| 10:45 |
|
martinmorris |
no, the koha unix user i had to set up during installation |
| 10:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: ah I think this user is a mysql user used to connect to the database, so I think this user does not need special permissions... |
| 10:46 |
|
martinmorris |
ok |
| 10:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: I'm not even sure there is really a need to create a _system_ koha user |
| 10:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
I thought it's just a database user... |
| 10:47 |
|
martinmorris |
well i certainly have that too |
| 10:47 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: I mean... you may be able to remove the koha system user because it is not necessary |
| 10:47 |
|
martinmorris |
well, if it's doing no harm... :) |
| 10:47 |
|
|Lupin| |
unless you have been asked to create it by a documentation... |
| 10:48 |
|
martinmorris |
i seem to remember creating it during the installatino |
| 10:48 |
|
martinmorris |
doesn't matter |
| 10:48 |
|
martinmorris |
i'm all a bit rusty, i did this last year but now coming back to it all |
| 10:48 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: no it can't harm, so you can probably keep it at least until your koha installation works |
| 10:48 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: in the long run, though, I'd say it's not a very good idea to have useless system accouns |
| 10:49 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: k |
| 10:49 |
|
martinmorris |
brb |
| 10:49 |
|
|Lupin| |
why not starting with a clean system then ? i.e. removing everything you did before and just follow the whole procedure again... |
| 11:06 |
|
martinmorris |
it's ok, it's working fine :) |
| 11:06 |
|
martinmorris |
and probably will remove the koha account but will check through the documentation first just in case |
| 11:16 |
|
|Lupin| |
martinmorris: looks wise, yeah |
| 11:17 |
|
|Lupin| |
see you all |
| 11:17 |
|
|Lupin| |
bye |
