| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:42 |
|
|Lupin| |
hello |
| 13:45 |
|
ebegin |
hey |Lupin| |
| 13:58 |
|
|Lupin| |
hey ebegin |
| 14:16 |
|
Snow_Fox |
morning |
| 14:16 |
|
ebegin |
are the accounttype (Rep, L, ...) are defined somewhere? |
| 14:17 |
|
ebegin |
good monring Snow_Fox |
| 14:17 |
|
paul_p |
ebegin: no, afaik, it's hardcoded (a koha 1.0 piece of code...) |
| 14:17 |
|
ebegin |
grr... thanks paul_p |
| 14:18 |
|
|Lupin| |
Is the ccode category predefined in Koha or is there something to do to activate it ? |
| 14:18 |
|
paul_p |
ebegin: have you submitted a patch as of today ? If no, then you may be the 96 or 97th commiter ! |
| 14:20 |
|
ebegin |
no, i didn't :) |
| 14:23 |
|
ebegin |
when was the first line of code written for Koha? 1999? |
| 14:26 |
|
paul_p |
ebegin: yep, end of 1999. but this one may not be that old. (which script ?) |
| 14:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
can anybody help with ccodes pls ? |
| 14:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
wet to administration -> authorized values and couldn't see anything |
| 14:47 |
|
ebegin |
paul_p, you think you can give a try to fill some of those values? http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]opment:hard_coded |
| 15:07 |
|
kf |
|Lupin|: its the right place |
| 15:08 |
|
kf |
|Lupin|: you can import some predefined CCODEs during installation |
| 15:08 |
|
kf |
|Lupin|: when there is no CCODE you can add it |
| 15:08 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: I just had a look to the manual. It mentions the CCODE category, but it does not appear in the drop-down I can see with categories |
| 15:09 |
|
|Lupin| |
after BSort2 I have CAND |
| 15:09 |
|
|Lupin| |
and then COUNTRY |
| 15:09 |
|
kf |
|Lupin|: try adding it with "new category" |
| 15:11 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: ok |
| 15:16 |
|
kf |
|Lupin|: when adding a new category you will add the first value in the same step |
| 15:19 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: oka ! |
| 15:19 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: just surprised that it is not there already |
| 15:19 |
|
kf |
just use CCODE as category code |
| 15:19 |
|
kf |
I dont know why, perhaps you chose not to install example values during isntallation, or its a UNIMARC / french isntallation thing? |
| 15:21 |
|
ebegin |
|Lupin|, IIRC, the CCODE are part of the optional data that is added during the websetup. |
| 15:22 |
|
Snow_Fox |
with the offline transaction tool it notes that the following items will not be process or checked out, and was wonder what it ment by Item barcode fills a request |
| 15:22 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf & ebegin ok, thanks ! |
| 15:24 |
|
|Lupin| |
it may indeed very well be that I didn't instal the example values... |
| 15:58 |
|
ebegin |
|Lupin|, does lynx support JQuery? |
| 16:00 |
|
|Lupin| |
ebegin: no, I don't think so |
| 16:29 |
|
paul_p |
ebegin: lynx don't support javascript. |
| 16:30 |
|
paul_p |
BUT JQuery has a fallback++ without jquery |
| 16:30 |
|
paul_p |
so, it's not as nice & fancy as with jquery "active", but it still works |
| 16:32 |
|
ebegin |
paul_p, good. Thanks for the info. |
| 17:03 |
|
|Lupin| |
bye "koha ! |
| 18:34 |
|
joetho |
what are these -null- things in circ reports?? |
| 18:35 |
|
joetho |
items with no collection code or something like that? Nope. I am perplexed and stymied. |
| 19:10 |
|
atz |
joetho: right |
| 19:10 |
|
atz |
NULL is the value for no value. |
| 19:10 |
|
atz |
select itemnumber from items where ccode IS NULL; |
| 19:11 |
|
atz |
or whatever your field of choice is |
| 19:17 |
|
mib_s1ex4e |
is this just for koha writers or for koha cataloging? Need to know if I need to be in here or not..lol |
| 19:18 |
|
ebegin |
mib_s1ex4e, this is for anybody who want to talk about koha. both librarian and coders |
| 19:18 |
|
mib_s1ex4e |
cool, thankx |
| 19:20 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 19:21 |
|
ricardo |
"Morning" chris! :) |
| 19:21 |
|
ricardo |
(it's 20H21 here in Portugal ;-) |
| 19:22 |
|
ricardo |
Quick question: is there a way in Koha to delete all bibliographic records that belong to a specific "Item Type"? |
| 19:22 |
|
chris |
7.21am here, just feeding my son breakfast then i have to catch a bus to work :) |
| 19:23 |
|
ricardo |
chris: I thought that Koha related work made you a millionaire and that you hadn't to work anymore ;-) |
| 19:23 |
|
chris |
lol |
| 19:23 |
|
ricardo |
Eheh |
| 19:23 |
|
chris |
ricardo: i think you would have to do it in the db with some sql |
| 19:24 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hey on the offline circ program when it says that it wont record a "fills a request" |
| 19:24 |
|
Snow_Fox |
is that refering to a item hold? |
| 19:24 |
|
chris |
my guess is yes, but kyle is who could answer definitively Snow_Fox |
| 19:24 |
|
ricardo |
chris: That's what I'm afraid of :-S And afraid because, besides the biblio.* tables, I don't know if I have to delete other things because of the MARC representations |
| 19:25 |
|
chris |
you want to get rid of biblio, biblioitems and items; |
| 19:25 |
|
chris |
biblioitems contains the marc and marcxml blobs |
| 19:25 |
|
chris |
the trick is |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
itemtype can be at itemlevel |
| 19:26 |
|
Snow_Fox |
.seen kyle |
| 19:26 |
|
Snow_Fox |
duh no x3 |
| 19:26 |
|
Snow_Fox |
heh |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
@seen kyle |
| 19:26 |
|
munin |
chris: I have not seen kyle. |
| 19:26 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Right. But, in my case, i have item types NOT set at "item level" |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
koha-devel mailing list is your best bet Snow_Fox |
| 19:26 |
|
Snow_Fox |
roger that thanks chris |
| 19:27 |
|
chris |
ricardo: cool, in that case its easier, if it was at item level you would definitely have to script it |
| 19:27 |
|
ricardo |
chris: I mean that I set the "item-level_itypes" System Preference to OFF |
| 19:27 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 19:27 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Yeah. Thank God for small favours, right? ;-) |
| 19:27 |
|
chris |
if it was at itemlevel, you would have to edit the marc (removing just the items of the certain type) |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
delete from biblio,biblioitems,items where biblioitems.biblionumber = biblio.biblionumber and items.biblioitemnumber = biblioitems.biblioitemnumber and biblioitems.itemtype='SOMETHING' |
| 19:29 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Right. I must admit that I don't feel very comfortable with editing directly the tables... I wish there was some kind of API for this (or an option for bulkmarcimport). Oh well |
| 19:29 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Thank you very much for the query. :D |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
BACKUP THE DB FIRST :-) |
| 19:29 |
|
ricardo |
chris: *nod* |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
then rebuild_zebra.plk |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
-k |
| 19:29 |
|
ricardo |
Yeah... In my case "rebuild_nozebra" |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
righto |
| 19:30 |
|
chris |
im fairly sure there is work being done on bulkedit/deletes of records |
| 19:30 |
|
chris |
but im not sure where its at |
| 19:30 |
|
ricardo |
chris: OK. Thanks for that info, too |
| 19:32 |
|
ricardo |
(I must say I'm not fond of data migrations, to say the least...) |
| 19:32 |
|
jwagner |
PTFS is working on batch item edit for a client -- code is still in test, so I'm not sure when it will be available. |
| 19:33 |
|
ricardo |
jwagner: Hi Jane! That's great! Thanks for the info :) And don't worry, I won't "nail" you to a deadline... But you said "tomorrow", right? ;-) |
| 19:34 |
|
ricardo |
(just kidding...) |
| 19:36 |
|
jwagner |
Nope. I didn't even say "yesterday" ! |
| 19:36 |
|
ricardo |
jwagner: Eheh |
| 19:36 |
|
chris |
right off to ride my bus |
| 19:36 |
|
jwagner |
Happy commuting, chris! |
| 19:40 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Bye Chris... and thanks! :) |
| 20:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
jwagner: have you looked at the NEKLS specs for bib maintenance? |
| 20:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
(and I'm sure we'd be interested in seeing what you're doing for your client :P) |
| 20:14 |
|
joetho |
we are also spec-ing out a development to deal with merging bibs together, that preserves all the item data. |
| 20:14 |
|
joetho |
I think this will go a long way toward solving problems with batch deletions |
| 20:14 |
|
jwagner |
wizzyrea, Sorry, I've been off on another system. No, I haven't seen the NEKLS specs -- can you point me to them? |
| 20:16 |
|
joetho |
not sure if they are vendor-specific-proprietary at this point. A very murky subject, that. |
| 20:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
no, they are creative commons licensed |
| 20:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
re: joetho |
| 20:16 |
|
joetho |
yer sure. |
| 20:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
yes |
| 20:16 |
|
joetho |
yer totally sure. |
| 20:16 |
|
joetho |
ha. a hesitation. |
| 20:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh for pity's sake. Yes, look closely at what you have, it's printed at the bottom |
| 20:17 |
|
pianohacker |
joetho: LibLime specs I've seen in the past were creative commons licensed |
| 20:17 |
|
joetho |
uh oh dads here |
| 20:17 |
|
ricardo |
joetho: LOL |
| 20:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: yes |
| 20:18 |
|
joetho |
see I toldja |
| 20:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
pbbbt |
| 20:18 |
|
ricardo |
wizzyrea: LOL! |
| 20:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
please send me at least 10% of any money wagered on that question ;) |
| 20:19 |
|
ricardo |
gmcharlt: eheh |
| 20:19 |
|
joetho |
how about ten percent of the money spent on it? |
| 20:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
ooh, shiny! |
| 20:20 |
|
ricardo |
Question: the easy way to remove duplicate bibliographic records in Koha (for a given item type) is...? |
| 20:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
ooh, that's the question of the day |
| 20:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: you crack me up. :) |
| 20:21 |
|
pianohacker |
atz++ |
| 20:21 |
|
joetho |
thus our discussion of the specs for bib merging development. |
| 20:21 |
|
pianohacker |
If you're not careful, you'll be assigned cleanup tasks for the rest of your career |
| 20:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
wow, that was random lol (pianohacker) |
| 20:22 |
|
pianohacker |
Hrmph. Mailing list |
| 20:22 |
|
pianohacker |
random-- |
| 20:22 |
|
ricardo |
joetho: Really? That's great! That means I can stop working on this data migration and wait for you to finish the specs / development ;-) |
| 20:23 |
|
jdavidb |
Yah, wizzyrea...if you kept up with the lists, whilst cutting up on here, you'd have known what pianohacker was talking about...c'mon...do try to keep up. :P |
| 20:23 |
|
ricardo |
@karma random |
| 20:23 |
|
munin |
ricardo: Karma for "random" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
| 20:23 |
|
ricardo |
Poor random! ;-) |
| 20:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
*sigh* |
| 20:23 |
|
joetho |
btw, @atz suggestion for my earlier "null" question didn't work. |
| 20:23 |
|
pianohacker |
Not everyone is glued to their email inboxes (not entirely a bad thing...) |
| 20:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
c'mon, wizzyrea - the whole point of social apps is that you're obligated to keep up with *everything* |
| 20:24 |
|
joetho |
well..... bucks up. |
| 20:24 |
|
jdavidb |
Awwwwww...we wuvs you, wizzyrea! |
| 20:25 |
|
atz |
joetho: you didn't find NULL values in the records? |
| 20:25 |
|
ricardo |
On a related note... |
| 20:26 |
|
pianohacker |
joetho: Is it possible that some of your records have ccodes that are no longer defined in the authorised_values table ? |
| 20:27 |
|
joetho |
hmmm. |
| 20:27 |
|
ricardo |
Is it because that development work is being done in this area, that the only "Record matching rule" (available in its dropdown list) is "Do not look matching records" (in the "Stage MARC Records for Import" screen)? |
| 20:27 |
|
joetho |
I have been very careful about deleting authorized values. |
| 20:27 |
|
pianohacker |
ricardo: You first have to define record matching rules |
| 20:27 |
|
ricardo |
pianohacker: OK. Thanks for the info. Let me check that |
| 20:28 |
|
joetho |
our development spec for this seems fairly extensive. |
| 20:28 |
|
joetho |
it definitely includes expanded functionality for defining matching rules. |
| 20:28 |
|
pianohacker |
joetho: SELECT * from items left join authorised_values on (ccode = authorised_value) where lib is null; |
| 20:28 |
|
pianohacker |
Should pull up anything with a broken ccode |
| 20:28 |
|
ricardo |
pianohacker: OK. I found the screen for adding a matching rule... but I'm beginning to think that I wish I *didn't*! ;-) |
| 20:29 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh |
| 20:29 |
|
pianohacker |
I think you have gmcharlt to blame for that |
| 20:29 |
|
joetho |
I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans. |
| 20:29 |
|
joetho |
I find those on match.com |
| 20:29 |
|
pianohacker |
O_o There is no doubt a section for exactly that, this being the internet |
| 20:30 |
|
atz |
ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking. |
| 20:31 |
|
ricardo |
atz: LOL! I think that would be a good "quip" for Koha's Bugzilla ;-) |
| 20:31 |
|
jdavidb |
Bugzilla? Naah...front page of the Wiki. That's priceless! |
| 20:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
@quote add <atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking. |
| 20:31 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #13 added. |
| 20:31 |
|
Sharon |
joetho I have sql reports to find null itypes and ccodes and locations. |
| 20:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
@quote add joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans. |
| 20:31 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #14 added. |
| 20:32 |
|
ricardo |
jdavidb: eheh |
| 20:32 |
|
pianohacker |
joetho, Sharon: The SQL I posted above should find those, ah, "dysfunctional orphans", rather than just null ccodes |
| 20:32 |
|
ricardo |
@qote |
| 20:32 |
|
munin |
ricardo: I suck |
| 20:32 |
|
ricardo |
@quote |
| 20:32 |
|
munin |
ricardo: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 20:33 |
|
ricardo |
RDA? |
| 20:33 |
|
Sharon |
cool beans |
| 20:33 |
|
joetho |
I resolved all my actual "null" itypes etc, but not the ones that are THERE but no authorized. |
| 20:33 |
|
pianohacker |
@quote random |
| 20:33 |
|
munin |
pianohacker: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009) |
| 20:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 20:34 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: Quote #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source project; clearly your sense of what to avoid to make your life easier has been impaired for a while :)" (added by chris at 07:59 PM, June 23, 2009) |
| 20:34 |
|
ricardo |
pianohacker: Amusingly and sadly insightful! |
| 20:35 |
|
richard |
hi |
| 20:35 |
|
joetho |
pianoist: I haven't got it to work yet. Sqlirrelly something or other in there. |
| 20:35 |
|
pianohacker |
Hrmm. Syntax error, or just don't pull nothin' up? |
| 20:36 |
|
joetho |
syntax. I'm pecking at it. |
| 20:36 |
|
ricardo |
Hi richard |
| 20:36 |
|
jdavidb |
@quote random |
| 20:36 |
|
munin |
jdavidb: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 08:23 PM, June 19, 2009) |
| 20:36 |
|
pianohacker |
I'm starting to talk in soundbites, God help me |
| 20:36 |
|
joetho |
but assuming I DO find some weird values in there- how did they get there? |
| 20:37 |
|
pianohacker |
Accidental delete of ccodes by someone, odd imported data, who knows |
| 20:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
I read drumstick and I thought "chicken drumstick?" |
| 20:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
even though I know it's a drum stick |
| 20:37 |
|
joetho |
An Un-named Employee left me a few code presents in the form of transposed ohs and seroes, but once you find them it's no big deal. |
| 20:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
uh-0h |
| 20:37 |
|
joetho |
zeroes* |
| 20:39 |
|
ricardo |
gmcharlt: I think it's more like "Oh-0h" (pun *fully* intended ;-) |
| 20:39 |
|
joetho |
but I don't see how that could happen with ccodes. One wrong character when you are importing huge batches should give thousands of errors, not 4 or 5 a week. |
| 20:40 |
|
joetho |
In the interest of accuracy, I propose that I use only words and numbers that contain neither a zero nor "letter O". |
| 20:42 |
|
atz |
DROP TABLE biblio; -- done |
| 20:43 |
|
jdavidb |
Awesome! Thanks, atz! |
| 20:43 |
|
jdavidb |
atz's clever patch will also eliminate your duplicate bib issues, see? |
| 20:44 |
|
joetho |
is authorised spelled with a z or an s? |
| 20:44 |
|
joetho |
s, right? |
| 20:44 |
|
pianohacker |
s in the table, z in the interface |
| 20:44 |
|
jwagner |
joetho, the answer is Yes |
| 20:44 |
|
joetho |
Yez, I zee |
| 20:45 |
|
ricardo |
jdavidb: LOL |
| 20:45 |
|
pianohacker |
Learn Latin American Spanish, then you won't have to care about the difference |
| 20:46 |
|
pianohacker |
joetho: What particular syntax error is it giving you? The fact that it worked at all might be a peculiarity of my setup |
| 20:48 |
|
joetho |
Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /home/sek/kohaclone/C4/Reports/Guided.pm line 412. |
| 20:51 |
|
joetho |
SELECT from items LEFT join authorised_values on (ccode = authorised_value) where lib IS null |
| 20:54 |
|
chris |
back |
| 20:54 |
|
ricardo |
Wb chris ! :) |
| 20:54 |
|
pianohacker |
chris: hey |
| 20:54 |
|
ricardo |
How do I export patron data in Koha 2.2.9 (so I can later import it in Koha 3.0.3)? |
| 20:56 |
|
chris |
circulation data and accounts data too? or just borrowers? |
| 20:56 |
|
chris |
the short answer is going to be, there is no tool in 2.2.9 to do it |
| 20:57 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Ideally, those too. But for now, just borrowers (because biblionumbers will change and circulation historical data will probably get "confused" by that) |
| 20:57 |
|
chris |
itemnumbers is what it cares about |
| 20:57 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Oh, you're right. But those will also change :( |
| 20:58 |
|
chris |
they dont have to |
| 20:58 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Meaning...? |
| 20:58 |
|
chris |
the best way to do it, is to take a copy of your 2.2.9 database |
| 20:58 |
|
chris |
and put it somewhere then follow the upgrade to 3.0.0 rules |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
then you end up with a db, that will work with then you can upgrade it to 3.0.3 etc |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
and then you have tables that you can then mysqldump and load straight into your koha 3 |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
and not lose any historical stuff |
| 21:00 |
|
chris |
the next best way, is to do select * from borrowers into outfile '/tmp/borrowersdata'; |
| 21:00 |
|
ricardo |
chris: The upgrade possible doesn't seem possible, I'm afraid (character set problems, and fields that were wrongly filled in our Koha 2.2.9 - like the "sensitive" 100a field in UNIMARC - and that now are (correctly) validated in Koha 3.0.x |
| 21:01 |
|
chris |
load data infile '/tmp/borrowers' into borrowers (column_name,column_name.....) |
| 21:01 |
|
ricardo |
chris: OK. Thank you very much for the tip :) |
| 21:02 |
|
chris |
or you can do the upgrade, paying ignoring the bibliographic stuff |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
so that your borrowers table at least gets upgraded |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
then you can mysqldump and load it in |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
OR |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
you can do the select into outfile |
| 21:03 |
|
ricardo |
chris: Yeah... That's the other option. I don't know what would happen to the biblio stuff then, though |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
well, you;d just ignore that (ie you wouldnt use the upgraded one) |
| 21:04 |
|
ricardo |
chris: And I would then delete the records and do "bulkmarcimport"s afterwards? |
| 21:04 |
|
ricardo |
(records -> *biblio* records, I mean) |
| 21:06 |
|
ricardo |
chris: I'll think about it. Thanks! :) |
| 21:07 |
|
ricardo |
Well, it's past 10 PM here, and I'm still at work and haven't had dinner. Going home now. Take care everyone! And thank you Chris! :) |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
you could do the select into outfile and then munge the file |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
and use the upload borrowers tool in 3 |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
good night :) |
| 21:08 |
|
chris |
(sorry got distracted by my boss) |
| 21:08 |
|
ricardo |
chris: LOL! No problem :) |
| 21:08 |
|
ricardo |
Thanks again |
| 21:08 |
|
ricardo |
Bye (out!) |
| 21:08 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: nice hote? |
| 21:08 |
|
chris |
hotel too |
| 21:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: nice enough; but given that it's a major metro hotel, gouging me for internet access |
| 21:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
annoying, that |
| 21:10 |
|
chris |
ahh i hate when they do that |
| 21:12 |
|
chris |
whats on the cards for tomorrow? |
| 21:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
setting up booth and preparing to wear down our feet |
| 21:13 |
|
chris |
ahh :-) hope you brought a few pair of shoes |
| 21:22 |
|
joetho |
I will peck at this sql crap later. |
| 21:22 |
|
joetho |
thanks for the tips, |
| 21:22 |
|
joetho |
GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD |
| 21:22 |
|
pianohacker |
Bye |
| 21:52 |
|
chris |
http://www.linux.com/news/ente[…]anagement-softwar |
| 21:59 |
|
rhcl |
I see DSpace got a mention. |
| 21:59 |
|
chris |
yep, dspace == fedora now |
| 22:00 |
|
chris |
well duraspace :) |
| 22:00 |
|
chris |
its a nice balanced write up i thought |
| 22:01 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, pretty good. I always forward articles like that to my director. |
| 22:03 |
|
Sharon |
I posted that on our Tech blog |
| 22:04 |
|
chris |
my director just twittered it |
| 22:04 |
|
Sharon |
we're doing an Open Source tech day workshop in August, so that's timely |
| 22:04 |
|
chris |
course my director is also the president of the NZOSS |
| 22:04 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 22:05 |
|
Sharon |
I'm suppose to be putting together a digitization pilot project, so I'm glad the linked to greenstone and others. I need some educatin' |
| 22:05 |
|
rhcl |
Look at DSpace. |
| 22:05 |
|
chris |
and check out kete too |
| 22:05 |
|
rhcl |
IMHO, it's worlds better than Greenstone. |
| 22:05 |
|
chris |
depending on what sort of project you are working on |
| 22:06 |
|
rhcl |
Sharon: where are you located? |
| 22:06 |
|
Sharon |
local history stuff - pictures, family histories, etc. |
| 22:06 |
|
chris |
http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/[…]false#comment-128 |
| 22:06 |
|
Sharon |
rhcl Kansas - part of the NExpress folks |
| 22:06 |
|
rhcl |
I thought so. |
| 22:06 |
|
chris |
http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/about |
| 22:07 |
|
Sharon |
awesome |
| 22:07 |
|
rhcl |
We are about halfway+ through a digitization project- Project Bloodroot |
| 22:08 |
|
Sharon |
big? small? replicable? |
| 22:10 |
|
rhcl |
We have about 25 books with 350-400 pages each, plus some odds and ends like newspaper articles. |
| 22:11 |
|
rhcl |
http://pastebin.com/d25764106 |
| 22:12 |
|
Sharon |
cool! I'll take a gander |
| 22:14 |
|
Snow_Fox |
im gonna assume that the offline circ system is not capible of writing of having multiple stations write to the same file on the network at the same time correct? |
| 22:15 |
|
chris |
pass |
| 22:15 |
|
chris |
never used it |
| 22:16 |
|
Sharon |
there are at least 2 Kansas uses of Dspace |
| 22:17 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, a lot of major universities use it. It's pretty polished and professionally well-done. |
| 22:17 |
|
Sharon |
one is the State gov't. funny |
| 22:17 |
|
Snow_Fox |
hrm |
| 22:17 |
|
Snow_Fox |
the way i figure on setup |
| 22:17 |
|
Snow_Fox |
is if the system goes down |
| 22:17 |
|
Snow_Fox |
have the users create a file on a maped drive on one of our servers |
| 22:18 |
|
Snow_Fox |
so that we can go back and update all at once more or less |
| 22:18 |
|
rhcl |
We are actually using the jumpbox version in a VM. http://www.jumpbox.com/ |
| 22:18 |
|
Snow_Fox |
if we could use one file |
| 22:18 |
|
Snow_Fox |
though |
| 22:18 |
|
Snow_Fox |
it would simplfy everything |
| 22:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
Snow_Fox: I wouldn't count on that working - although since it uses sqlite for the borrowers database copy, it presumably wouldn't be too far from it using sqlite for the transactions record |
| 22:19 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ya i know what you mean, only way to see would be to test it |
| 22:20 |
|
Snow_Fox |
and see if it works |
| 22:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
which would probably give it enough concurrency for what you want |
| 22:20 |
|
Snow_Fox |
true |
| 22:30 |
|
rhcl |
chris: still on? I have been looking at Kete over the past several weeks. From the examples on the site I see it would would be ideal for individuals to contribute to some collective goal. |
| 22:30 |
|
chris |
thats what its for |
| 22:31 |
|
chris |
individuals/organisations |
| 22:31 |
|
chris |
its a tool for building a community and a repository |
| 22:31 |
|
rhcl |
I can't find the link now, but I remember reading a complete page of the memories/writings of an early settler of some part of NZ--way back when. I think it was a transcribed diary. |
| 22:32 |
|
rhcl |
Very interesting. |
| 22:33 |
|
rhcl |
When we finish our actual project, I'm thinking of setting up a 'kete' and trying to get the still living staff of the cancer hospital add their thoughts and memories to it. |
| 22:34 |
|
rhcl |
'to add' |
| 22:34 |
|
chris |
sounds like a great idea |
| 22:36 |
|
rhcl |
another great idea is dinner, and I'm ready! Later... |
| 22:36 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 02:01 |
|
pianohacker |
'night |
| 03:36 |
|
Amit |
hi chris, brendan, Jo |
| 03:36 |
|
Amit |
good morning #koha |
| 04:05 |
|
Jo |
moring Amit |
| 04:06 |
|
brendan |
heya Amit |
| 04:06 |
|
brendan |
hi Jo |
| 04:13 |
|
Amit |
hi indradg |
| 05:41 |
|
kf |
good morning #koha |
| 11:24 |
|
|Lupin| |
hello ! |
| 11:26 |
|
Amit |
hi Lupin |
| 11:29 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi Amit |
| 11:30 |
|
|Lupin| |
Could someone with a Unimarc koha pleasee tell me to which MARC field the ccode is linked ? |
| 11:30 |
|
|Lupin| |
I think it's 995.8, but I'd appreciate a confirmation. |
| 11:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
hmm not sure about 995.8 actually, because this subfield is not listed in the Koha to marc section as a possible target for CCODE |
| 11:36 |
|
kf |
hi Lupin |
| 11:36 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi kf ! |
| 11:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: here ? |
| 11:43 |
|
nicomo |
yes |
| 11:44 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: do you have acess to a unimarc set-up koha ? |
| 11:44 |
|
nicomo |
yes, just reading your question above |
| 11:45 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: ok |
| 11:45 |
|
nicomo |
you have to pick a subfield : there's none prescribed |
| 11:45 |
|
nicomo |
then head to zebra's record.abs and tell it where you put ccode |
| 11:45 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: we don't use zebra here since our collection is small |
| 11:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: but when you install koha and ask for sample datas to be installed, it doesn't link ccode to any marc field either ? |
| 11:46 |
|
nicomo |
not that I know of in unimarc, no |
| 11:47 |
|
nicomo |
you basically select the subfield you want to link ccodes to, then tell the index (either zebra of noZebra) where it's at |
| 11:48 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: any recommendaiton regarding the subfield ? |
| 11:48 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: and, how do you tell the nozebra index where it is ? |
| 11:49 |
|
nicomo |
not really, except perhaps avoiding any subfield already used in the 955 recommandation |
| 11:49 |
|
nicomo |
955$Z might be ok |
| 11:50 |
|
nicomo |
nozebra indexes are defined in the NoZebraIndexes syspref |
| 11:51 |
|
nicomo |
but again : i never used noZebra, so you might want to check with someone else on this |
| 11:51 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: still one can select only those fields that are listed in the drop-down, as far as I can see |
| 11:52 |
|
nicomo |
which dropdown? |
| 11:52 |
|
nicomo |
my install show a textarea for this syspref |
| 11:52 |
|
|Lupin| |
in the koha to mark link |
| 11:52 |
|
|Lupin| |
I chose items |
| 11:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
then ccode |
| 11:53 |
|
nicomo |
yes |
| 11:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
and then I have several drop downs |
| 11:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
one for each marc block |
| 11:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
and in the 9xx one |
| 11:53 |
|
nicomo |
yes |
| 11:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
there is no possibility to select 995Z |
| 11:53 |
|
nicomo |
you have to create it in the marc framework first |
| 11:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
aaaaaaah |
| 11:54 |
|
nicomo |
then it'll appear in koha2marc mappings |
| 11:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: I understand |
| 11:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: thanks |
| 11:54 |
|
nicomo |
you're welcome |
| 11:55 |
|
nicomo |
again, I haven't tested this with noZebra |
| 11:55 |
|
nicomo |
but I'd be interested in the result though |
| 11:55 |
|
nicomo |
keep me posted on this, will you? |
| 11:55 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: sure |
| 11:55 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: it's just that I'm not sure I have understood what exactly interests you |
| 11:56 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: you want to know how well noZebra will be able to earch through C-Codes ? |
| 11:56 |
|
nicomo |
exactly |
| 11:56 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: I don't know whether I'll be able to determine this |
| 11:57 |
|
nicomo |
Well : if you do, ping me, if not, don't worry :-) |
| 11:57 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: but at least if things do not work as expected once ccodes have been set up, I'll know that one possible cause of the problem is the nozebra indexing... |
| 11:57 |
|
nicomo |
indeed |
| 11:57 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: the idea is that we will use ccodes to kep track of different file formats |
| 11:58 |
|
|Lupin| |
nicomo: so one ccode per file format |
