| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:00 |
|
chris |
i have no idea :) |
| 12:01 |
|
jwagner |
Good night, and pleasant dreams of Footrot Flats! |
| 12:46 |
|
magnusenger |
Using Colloquy on MacOS X, /away doesn't seem to work. Anyone have any experience with that? |
| 13:11 |
|
slef |
coo... TTLLP software.coop now a local phone call in over 300 cities worldwide |
| 13:13 |
|
slef |
or maybe it's only over 200 |
| 13:16 |
|
hdl_laptop |
SIP phone ? |
| 13:16 |
|
slef |
yep |
| 13:17 |
|
slef |
only +33-1-79-99-79-99,*261-822-3595# in France |
| 13:18 |
|
hdl_laptop |
so you have asterisk infrastructure ? |
| 13:18 |
|
slef |
we do, but this doesn't use it |
| 14:42 |
|
wizzyrea_away |
@karma |
| 14:42 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea_away: Highest karma: "paul_p" (50), "hdl_laptop" (39), and "chris" (29). Lowest karma: "savannah" (-3), "encoding" (-3), and "ie" (-2). |
| 14:42 |
|
wizzyrea_away |
aw, paul's winning |
| 14:42 |
|
wizzyrea_away |
I think the french are cheating |
| 14:42 |
|
wizzyrea_away |
:D |
| 14:43 |
|
hdl_laptop |
strange that gmcharlt is not in. |
| 14:43 |
|
wizzyrea_away |
I think he's traveling? |
| 14:43 |
|
hdl_laptop |
in karma i meant |
| 14:43 |
|
danny |
@karma gmcharlt |
| 14:43 |
|
munin |
danny: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 22 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 22. |
| 14:43 |
|
hdl_laptop |
@karma atz |
| 14:43 |
|
munin |
hdl_laptop: Karma for "atz" has been increased 17 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 17. |
| 14:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 14:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
i have like, 2 |
| 14:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 14:44 |
|
hdl_laptop |
which period of time has it taken into account ? |
| 14:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
not sure |
| 14:44 |
|
atz |
wizzyrea: yeah, galen should be in columbus today |
| 14:45 |
|
atz |
or en route anyway (a few storms here) |
| 14:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, we had those storms last night |
| 14:46 |
|
ccurry |
We're testing Koha for a rollout alongside XTF. We'll be using Koha for our printed materials and XTF for our manuscript collections. We'll plan to use Aeon for manuscripts paging in our reading room. Since we don't want to have two separate circulation systems, we plan to try Aeon with Koha as well. Anyone have experience using the two together? Is it possible to disable the circulation syst |
| 14:46 |
|
ccurry |
em in Koha, or do I just have to edit the templates to remove circulation functionality from the public face? |
| 14:47 |
|
atz |
ccurry: the circulation only happens on the staff side |
| 14:48 |
|
ccurry |
I'm referring to the buttons for requesting items from the Koha OPAC |
| 14:48 |
|
atz |
otherwise, you can control the "availability" with normal circ type parameters (not for loan, not for reserve) |
| 14:49 |
|
atz |
and you can disable reserves altogether via sysprefs |
| 14:49 |
|
ccurry |
awesome...I thought I might be able to do that, but I couldn't find the right preference. Thanks...I'll look harder. |
| 14:50 |
|
ccurry |
@karma atz |
| 14:50 |
|
munin |
ccurry: Karma for "atz" has been increased 17 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 17. |
| 14:51 |
|
ccurry |
atz+ |
| 14:51 |
|
ccurry |
obviously, I don't know the syntax for doing that... |
| 14:51 |
|
danny |
atz++ |
| 14:51 |
|
danny |
@karma atz |
| 14:51 |
|
munin |
danny: Karma for "atz" has been increased 18 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 18. |
| 14:51 |
|
atz |
heh, thx danny |
| 14:51 |
|
ccurry |
atz++ |
| 14:52 |
|
danny |
hehe just two ++ and you will add karma, thats it |
| 14:52 |
|
ccurry |
@karma atz |
| 14:52 |
|
munin |
ccurry: Karma for "atz" has been increased 19 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 19. |
| 14:52 |
|
ccurry |
thanks |
| 14:53 |
|
atz |
ccurry: the syspref is "RequestOnOpac" |
| 14:54 |
|
ccurry |
thanks |
| 14:54 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: did you get my fdl link? |
| 15:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
hmm.. no |
| 15:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
but I would like it :) |
| 15:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh, I scrolled back... found it |
| 15:15 |
|
wizzyrea |
...reading |
| 15:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
so slef: if you leave of the -nc of CC license, and only use -by and -sa from the 3.0 licenses... what's the problem there? |
| 15:31 |
|
wizzyrea |
(I see why nc is problematic in terms of koha... plenty of commercial peeps need to be able to use the docs) |
| 15:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
I just (probably ignorantly) think the gpl is for software, and would like a license that covers multimedia |
| 15:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
everything I've seen negative about CC is based on the 2.0 licensing scheme |
| 15:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
In contrast to the CC-SA 2.0 license, version 3.0 is considered to be compatible to the DFSG.[13] |
| 15:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
(wikipedia) |
| 15:48 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: CC's main problem is being long and ambiguous |
| 15:48 |
|
slef |
wizzyrea: it might ban DRM/TPM media but no-one seems sure about that |
| 15:48 |
|
Fox-Workin |
hello all |
| 15:50 |
|
slef |
hello Fox-Workin, who are you? :) |
| 15:50 |
|
Fox-Workin |
well im a tech speciliest out of kansas trying to catch up on a few things |
| 15:50 |
|
Fox-Workin |
Koha being one of them |
| 15:51 |
|
slef |
pleased to meet you. I'm a software.coop worker who should be hacking koha but is spending too much time managing stuff today. |
| 15:51 |
|
Fox-Workin |
ah |
| 15:51 |
|
Fox-Workin |
im a bit of a new hire and its my job to over see koha when its implimented |
| 15:52 |
|
slef |
Who's supplying it, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 15:52 |
|
Fox-Workin |
thats a good question :-P |
| 15:52 |
|
slef |
or is it an in-house task? |
| 15:52 |
|
Fox-Workin |
our support is liblime i belive |
| 15:54 |
|
slef |
erm, why is Kansas City in Missouri, or am I not reading this map? |
| 15:55 |
|
Fox-Workin |
heh |
| 15:55 |
|
Fox-Workin |
Kansas City is in missouri but its also in kansas |
| 15:55 |
|
Fox-Workin |
it was founded on the missouri side of the river |
| 15:55 |
|
slef |
city fathers love swimming |
| 15:56 |
|
Fox-Workin |
im in Salina myself |
| 15:58 |
|
Fox-Workin |
system seems pretty streight forward |
| 15:58 |
|
Fox-Workin |
at least in usability for the users |
| 15:59 |
|
Fox-Workin |
whats the admin side aspect like? |
| 15:59 |
|
slef |
remember - this is recorded and may be used against you later ;-) |
| 15:59 |
|
Fox-Workin |
imagine me noobie green |
| 16:00 |
|
Fox-Workin |
im a network tech thrown into the middle of this :-P |
| 16:10 |
|
jatillaso |
hello |
| 16:11 |
|
pianohacker |
hi |
| 16:11 |
|
jatillaso |
i have a problem with mod_perl under apache2 |
| 16:11 |
|
jatillaso |
configurated with perlRun |
| 16:12 |
|
jatillaso |
anyone has koha under mod_perl with ModPerl::PerlRun ?? |
| 16:13 |
|
jatillaso |
laurence, are you Henry Laurence? |
| 16:14 |
|
laurence |
jatillaso no I am Laurence Lefaucheur :) |
| 16:15 |
|
jatillaso |
ahhh |
| 16:16 |
|
pianohacker |
jatillaso: Koha currently has a few oddities in its code that prevent it from working well with mod_perl (circular dependencies, for one) |
| 16:16 |
|
pianohacker |
Given the speed boost, though, I'd be interested in hearing what problems you're having |
| 16:16 |
|
jatillaso |
i tried to run mod_perl with perl registry |
| 16:17 |
|
jatillaso |
but i had a lot of problems with 500 errors |
| 16:17 |
|
jatillaso |
but under PerlRun, i dont have error like those error 500 |
| 16:18 |
|
pianohacker |
What kind of errors do you have? |
| 16:18 |
|
jatillaso |
now, in our apache logs, we saw a lot of warnings like |
| 16:18 |
|
jatillaso |
Prototype mismatch |
| 16:18 |
|
jatillaso |
functions with this header ($$$;$$) or ($$) ... |
| 16:18 |
|
pianohacker |
Yeah |
| 16:18 |
|
jatillaso |
generated warnings |
| 16:19 |
|
pianohacker |
I don't think koha uses prototypes too much; do they tend to focus on one specific file |
| 16:19 |
|
pianohacker |
? |
| 16:19 |
|
jatillaso |
can i delete those ($$$) ?? |
| 16:19 |
|
jatillaso |
on Koha.pm |
| 16:20 |
|
jatillaso |
and others |
| 16:21 |
|
jatillaso |
aparently when i remove those ($$$) i dont have any warnings, but i dont know if i'll have problems in the future |
| 16:23 |
|
jatillaso |
pianohacker: what do you think |
| 16:23 |
|
jatillaso |
?¿ |
| 16:23 |
|
pianohacker |
Hmm |
| 16:23 |
|
pianohacker |
Could you paste some of the more frequent warnings into pastebin.com ? |
| 16:23 |
|
jatillaso |
yes |
| 16:24 |
|
jatillaso |
wait a second |
| 16:24 |
|
pianohacker |
You _should_ be able to remove those warnings, but it will depend on the function |
| 16:24 |
|
jatillaso |
Prototype mismatch: sub ModPerl::ROOT::ModPerl::PerlRun::var_www_kohaclone_opac_opac_2dsearch_2epl::output_html_with_http_headers: none vs ($$$;$) at /var/www/kohaclone/opac/opac-search.pl line 12 |
| 16:25 |
|
jatillaso |
for example |
| 16:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
Fox-Workin: hi from Lawrence KS |
| 16:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
Fox-Workin: you can also join us in #kohakansas on Freenode |
| 16:26 |
|
Fox-Workin |
ill have to do that |
| 16:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 16:26 |
|
Fox-Workin |
freenode another irc server? |
| 16:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
yessir |
| 16:26 |
|
pianohacker |
jatillaso: line 12 ? That's quite odd. What version of Koha are you running? |
| 16:27 |
|
jatillaso |
we have developed some functionalities on koha |
| 16:27 |
|
jatillaso |
my line 12 is... |
| 16:27 |
|
jatillaso |
use C4::Output; |
| 16:28 |
|
jatillaso |
we have koha running well under CGI |
| 16:28 |
|
pianohacker |
OK, that at least makes some sense |
| 16:28 |
|
pianohacker |
Let me see |
| 16:28 |
|
jatillaso |
but under mod_perl we are debugging some warnings we have |
| 16:29 |
|
jatillaso |
ok |
| 16:29 |
|
pianohacker |
Is the $cgi variable being initialized properly under PerlRun ? |
| 16:30 |
|
jatillaso |
how could i confirm it? |
| 16:30 |
|
wizzyrea |
Fox-Workin: http://public-staff.demo.kohalibrary.com/ user:liblime pass: liblime |
| 16:30 |
|
jatillaso |
i go to paste my perlRun configuration under apache2 |
| 16:30 |
|
jatillaso |
wait |
| 16:30 |
|
jatillaso |
678 PerlModule ModPerl::PerlRun |
| 16:30 |
|
jatillaso |
679 <Files *.pl> |
| 16:30 |
|
jatillaso |
680 SetHandler perl-script |
| 16:30 |
|
jatillaso |
681 PerlResponseHandler ModPerl::PerlRun |
| 16:30 |
|
jatillaso |
682 PerlOptions +ParseHeaders |
| 16:30 |
|
jatillaso |
683 Options +ExecCGI |
| 16:31 |
|
jatillaso |
684 PerlSetVar PerlRunOnce On |
| 16:31 |
|
jatillaso |
685 </Files> |
| 16:31 |
|
jatillaso |
686 PerlRequire /var/www/kohaclone/startup.pl |
| 16:31 |
|
jatillaso |
there is ... |
| 16:32 |
|
Fox-Workin |
thanks wizzyrea ive been playing with that for a good part of the day so far |
| 16:33 |
|
jatillaso |
i have $cgi initialized in opac-search.pl -> my $cgi = new CGI; |
| 16:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
cool :) |
| 16:34 |
|
pianohacker |
Hrm |
| 16:35 |
|
jatillaso |
:( |
| 16:35 |
|
pianohacker |
I'm kind of at a loss. What's in your startup.pl script? |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
this |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
1 #!/usr/bin/perl |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
2 |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
3 use strict; |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
4 use warnings; |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
5 use lib qw(. /var/www/kohaclone /var/www/kohaclone/installer /var/www/kohaclone/C4 ); |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
6 #use lib qw(/koha/rel_3_0); # this line fixe PERL5LIB ! |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
7 |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
8 # you can add here what you want. |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
9 # see perl.apache.org for more details. |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
10 |
| 16:36 |
|
jatillaso |
11 1; |
| 16:36 |
|
pianohacker |
Aha! Is this startup.pl script executed in-line with each script? |
| 16:36 |
|
slef |
cd |
| 16:36 |
|
slef |
oops |
| 16:37 |
|
jatillaso |
yes, because this script is included under apache2.conf |
| 16:37 |
|
pianohacker |
jatillaso: OK. You'll probably have to remove use strict; and use warnings; since there are parts of Koha that cannot yet run under them yet |
| 16:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef: at least you didn't type your password in :D |
| 16:38 |
|
pianohacker |
slef: irc_clients_that_dont_look_like_terminals++ ;) |
| 16:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
pianohacker: SNAP! |
| 16:38 |
|
jatillaso |
pianohacker: when we remove use strict, we have a lot of errors |
| 16:39 |
|
pianohacker |
Hrm. Removing it causes errors? That's odd, what kind? |
| 16:39 |
|
jatillaso |
let me see |
| 16:40 |
|
jatillaso |
no, not a lot of errors, |
| 16:41 |
|
jatillaso |
now i remove those lines, but i have the same warning in error.log of apache2 |
| 16:43 |
|
jatillaso |
we have no warnings, only errors like Prototype mismatch: sub ModPerl::ROOT::ModPerl::PerlRun:: ......... |
| 16:44 |
|
pianohacker |
Grr. You could _probably_ remove the prototype headers, but you'd want to be careful of course |
| 16:44 |
|
pianohacker |
Especially if it involves anything related to the database |
| 16:44 |
|
jatillaso |
ok |
| 16:44 |
|
jatillaso |
i will try it , |
| 16:45 |
|
jatillaso |
thank you pianohacker |
| 16:45 |
|
jatillaso |
bye |
| 16:45 |
|
pianohacker |
Not a problem, sorry I haven't been more helpful than "grargh poke this and see what happens" |
| 16:45 |
|
pianohacker |
Good luck |
| 16:46 |
|
jatillaso |
thanks |
| 17:15 |
|
slef |
pianohacker: I have one of those too. the actual problem is typing faster than the internet connection and not realising which screen has focus |
| 17:15 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh, yeah |
| 17:15 |
|
pianohacker |
I've noticed a similar problem where GVim extends ever so slightly into the next virtual desktop, stealing focus |
| 17:15 |
|
pianohacker |
Drives me nuts- |
| 17:16 |
|
slef |
bbl |
| 17:18 |
|
pianohacker |
atz: around? |
| 17:18 |
|
atz |
? |
| 17:19 |
|
pianohacker |
I'm taking a look at some small modifications to Letters::parseletter. Are you the original author of that code, or should I dig deeper with git-blame ? |
| 17:19 |
|
atz |
i think that was john beppu |
| 17:19 |
|
pianohacker |
Okay. Thanks |
| 17:19 |
|
atz |
i did a lot of cleanup in there, so that's probably what you are seeing |
| 17:19 |
|
atz |
it's a major performance pinch point in our larger configurations |
| 17:20 |
|
pianohacker |
Given that parseletter_sth uses SELECT *, the results should be identical, no? |
| 17:20 |
|
atz |
good question. if the row_from_table is a hashref, then yeah, you should get the same keys |
| 17:21 |
|
atz |
but you won't get them in order, for what that's worth |
| 17:21 |
|
atz |
pianohacker: also, if you don't get a row, then show columns would work, but keys wouldn't |
| 17:22 |
|
pianohacker |
Hmm. That last part could be important |
| 17:23 |
|
pianohacker |
Although I'm pretty certain that most of the code that uses parseletter cleans up any remaining <<>>'s afterwards |
| 17:29 |
|
brendan |
@wunder encino, CA |
| 17:29 |
|
munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Encino, Encino, California is 18.2°C (10:28 AM PDT on June 11, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:29 |
|
brendan |
thanks munin |
| 17:31 |
|
pianohacker |
@wunder Canon City, CO |
| 17:31 |
|
munin |
pianohacker: The current temperature in Rockvale Colorado, Rockvale, Colorado is 17.4°C (11:26 AM MDT on June 11, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.00 in 981.9 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:05 |
|
eb_inLibro |
@wunder montreal, quebec |
| 18:05 |
|
munin |
eb_inLibro: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 21.0°C (1:00 PM EDT on June 11, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:06 |
|
rhcl |
Fox: our publicity guy used to be the newspaper editor in Salina. |
| 18:54 |
|
pianohacker |
chris: ouch, I think I remember you worrying about missing a committer somewhere in the middle |
| 18:57 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 18:57 |
|
chris |
yeah caused a bit of a shuffle |
| 18:58 |
|
pianohacker |
Kahu wake you up again? |
| 18:59 |
|
chris |
nope, my own fault this time |
| 19:00 |
|
pianohacker |
What happened? |
| 19:01 |
|
chris |
at some point in the past, for some reason, i set an alarm for 6.30am today on my mobile phone |
| 19:02 |
|
pianohacker |
Ahh, I've done that |
| 19:02 |
|
chris |
who knows when, or why, or if it was one of my workmates playing a trick on me when i left my phone unlocked at some point |
| 19:02 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 19:03 |
|
pianohacker |
Or Kahu; you might want to keep an eye on him :) |
| 19:03 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, man, my kid is getting far more competent with my iphone than I'd like from a 16mo old |
| 19:06 |
|
pianohacker |
They start earlier and earlier these days |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 19:19 |
|
Fox-Workin |
before long id imagine they will come as a matched set |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-[…]ion-223309871.htm |
| 19:20 |
|
chris |
one of the funniest things ive seen in a while |
| 19:20 |
|
pianohacker |
"bell factory" :D |
| 19:22 |
|
Fox-Workin |
ok |
| 19:22 |
|
Fox-Workin |
thats absolutly funny |
| 19:22 |
|
chris |
whats even more funny is someone is willing to pay 265$ for it, even after reading that :-) |
| 19:23 |
|
Fox-Workin |
someone must hate there neighbors |
| 19:23 |
|
Fox-Workin |
i was kinda tempted to get it |
| 19:23 |
|
Fox-Workin |
just to see how bad it really is |
| 19:25 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
its near auckland pianohacker, they are all weird up there |
| 19:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
chris: ...wow |
| 19:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
that is seriously an epic washer. |
| 19:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
I like the "i drew pictures of the dinosaurs I saw. They're partly red b/c the green felt ran out" |
| 19:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
how long would it take to drive north tip to south tip? |
| 19:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
if you could drive it |
| 19:30 |
|
Fox-Workin |
NZ |
| 19:30 |
|
Fox-Workin |
if i remember right a good whack of the southern half is rain forest |
| 19:30 |
|
chris |
of which island wizzyrea ? |
| 19:31 |
|
chris |
you kinda cant drive all the way, cos umm there is like the ocean |
| 19:31 |
|
chris |
heres how i describe it |
| 19:31 |
|
chris |
NZ is the size of colorado if you squash it up |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
but it has more coast line than the US (not counting alaska) |
| 19:32 |
|
pianohacker |
Ahh, very convenient description |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
from wellington (at the bottom of hte north island, where i live) to auckland nearish the top, is about 10 hours in a car |
| 19:33 |
|
chris |
but then there is the whole south island, and then stewart island |
| 19:34 |
|
chris |
i think about 3 hours by car is the furthest away from the sea you can get, at any point |
| 19:35 |
|
danny |
google maps says it will take 1 day and 7 hours to get from the north to the south, however, there is this like ocean piece in the middle they don't make it real clear about how to get across that, i guess you switch to your boat |
| 19:35 |
|
danny |
hehe |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
yeah, the ferry goes past my house |
| 19:35 |
|
slef |
swim! |
| 19:35 |
|
danny |
there ya go |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
you can take a car on it, the ferry crossing takes about 3 hours |
| 19:35 |
|
pianohacker |
http://xkcd.com/461/ (couldn't resist) |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
and yep, people do swim it too, but they are slightly mental |
| 19:36 |
|
danny |
lol pianohacker |
| 19:37 |
|
chris |
http://www.cookstraitswim.org.[…]st_April_2008.htm |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
pianohacker++ |
| 19:38 |
|
pianohacker |
Wow, he did about 16 miles at faster than walking speed |
| 19:38 |
|
pianohacker |
That's nuts |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
its a nice boat ride on a good day |
| 19:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris++ # may you never have to deal with remembering Koha committer 3.5 ;) |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
course when the 14m swells come in .. its not so pleasant |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: hehe |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
http://image32.webshots.com/33[…]7378UnmChW_ph.jpg |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
fun fun |
| 19:44 |
|
pianohacker |
eek |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
word to the wise, that is the bluebridge ferry |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
which is cheaper than the interislander |
| 19:45 |
|
chris |
but has crappier stabilising .. if the weather is good, take it, if not, get the interislander instead :) |
| 19:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
omg |
| 19:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
seriously?! |
| 19:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
looks terrifying |
| 19:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: does Kansas have any hills made of earth that tall, let alone water? ;) |
| 19:46 |
|
Fox-Workin |
yes |
| 19:46 |
|
Fox-Workin |
we do |
| 19:46 |
|
Fox-Workin |
and pot holes big enough to eat buses |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
http://www.ourspace.tepapa.com/media/10 |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
i live on the hill between owhiro bay, and island bay ... in case anyone cares hehe |
| 19:48 |
|
Fox-Workin |
cool |
| 19:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
Fox-Workin++ |
| 19:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
yes, we do |
| 19:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
in fact, I live in the town with the highest hill in kansas |
| 19:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
and I can't remember the elevation thereof... one moment |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
http://tinyurl.com/mcahar |
| 19:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Oread 1037ft above sea level |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
my house |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
and thats the highest? |
| 19:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
O.o you lucky duck! |
| 19:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
yep |
| 19:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
in kansas |
| 19:50 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: That's much higher than I expected |
| 19:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
indeed |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
@gcalc 1037 feet in metres |
| 19:51 |
|
munin |
chris: 1037 feet = 316.0776 meters |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
thats decently high |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Cook |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
thats our highest |
| 19:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
...google street view is kind of creepy, and neat at the same time |
| 19:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
aoraki is the maori name? |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
south island maori use a k instead of ng |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
so it is in aorangi |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
for north island maori |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
rangi=sky ao=world |
| 19:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
neat! |
| 19:55 |
|
chris |
kahurangi = blue (rangi=sky kahu=cloak) |
| 19:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
so the cloak of the sky is blue? |
| 19:55 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
nice and poetic, I like that |
| 19:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
I was thinking that aoraki would make a neat name for a kid |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
if they were tall :) |
| 19:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 19:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
well I guess you can never guarantee that, eh? |
| 19:57 |
|
chris |
give the drs time, and you will be able to |
| 19:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe, you live close to happy valley |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
hehe yeah |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
its actually cold shadowy valley |
| 19:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
aw |
| 19:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
well that's not as good :/ |
| 19:59 |
|
chris |
yeah, i think a real estate agent named it |
| 19:59 |
|
chris |
or something |
| 19:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
were the namers trying to think positively? |
| 20:00 |
|
chris |
if you do a get directions to 150 willis street wellington, thats pretty much the bus route that i take to work |
| 20:01 |
|
wizzyrea |
what's the story on the odd obviously human shaped jut of land near the stadium? |
| 20:01 |
|
wizzyrea |
humanly* shaped |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
the adelaide road route that is |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
oh yeah we ran out of land so we pushed some of the hills into the harbour |
| 20:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
>.< |
| 20:03 |
|
chris |
those are actually piers :-) |
| 20:03 |
|
chris |
its all on poles |
| 20:03 |
|
chris |
(but we did actually do some land reclamation too) |
| 20:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
Ohhhhh... well that makes more sense |
| 20:04 |
|
chris |
if you zoom in close theres lots of logs |
| 20:04 |
|
chris |
sitting there waiting to be shipped to japan |
| 20:04 |
|
chris |
and tons of containers |
| 20:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
Ahhh I see now |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
if you find lambton quay |
| 20:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
neat! |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
that was the shoreline before a big earthquake |
| 20:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
Seriously?! The earth is neat |
| 20:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
earth++ |
| 20:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
how long ago was that? |
| 20:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh, and you get google traffic... don't take 1... it's very busy |
| 20:07 |
|
chris |
1855 |
| 20:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
lots of earthquakes? |
| 20:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol sorry I'm full of questions :P |
| 20:08 |
|
chris |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]ay-traffic-camera |
| 20:09 |
|
chris |
doesnt look that busy :) |
| 20:09 |
|
chris |
yeah we are on a bunch of faultlines |
| 20:10 |
|
chris |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]ecent_quakes.html |
| 20:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
ooh, a bunch |
| 20:13 |
|
chris |
my wife laurel (an american refugee from pittsburgh hehe) felt her first earthquake ever in wellington in 2000 |
| 20:14 |
|
chris |
which i found quite funny, her .... not so much |
| 20:15 |
|
rhcl |
Gee chris, you have a bunch of earthquakes per month over 3.x. I never realized you had so many. Do you people walk around wearing outriggers so you don't tip over? :) |
| 20:15 |
|
chris |
rhcl: hehe its the depth that gets ya |
| 20:15 |
|
chris |
they are usually very deep |
| 20:16 |
|
chris |
so you mostly never feel them |
| 20:16 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, well, that 6.7 on May 16th probably woulda reached up out of the deep and touched you. |
| 20:17 |
|
chris |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]oric-earthquakes/ |
| 20:17 |
|
chris |
those ones .. people felt them :) |
| 20:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
I imagine i'd probably be fairly alarmed myself in an earthquake |
| 20:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
the google fu is strong with you, chris |
| 20:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
hm... so every 10-20 years you get one that destroys stuff |
| 20:20 |
|
rhcl |
OK, well, just to put in some bragging rights, I was in this one... |
| 20:20 |
|
rhcl |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1[…]alinga_earthquake |
| 20:20 |
|
chris |
rhcl: that was way off the coast .... white island is an active volcano tho, that might blow up and tsunami the crap out of us |
| 20:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
and only for about 3 months a year |
| 20:22 |
|
chris |
rhcl: ohh yeah i remember that one |
| 20:23 |
|
rhcl |
wizzyrea: our tornado warning sirens went off in the thunderstorm last night |
| 20:23 |
|
chris |
generally, just because we have far less people and built up areas, even with bigger quakes we get less damage if that makes sense |
| 20:24 |
|
rhcl |
I presume you have pretty strict building codes too. |
| 20:24 |
|
chris |
course and 8.2 like 1855 |
| 20:24 |
|
chris |
is gonna flatten us |
| 20:24 |
|
chris |
no getting round that :) |
| 20:25 |
|
chris |
yeah, the new museum here is built on rubber stabilisers |
| 20:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
rhcl: texas? |
| 20:25 |
|
rhcl |
Me? St. Joseph Mo |
| 20:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
OH yea, I heard atchison got wholloped |
| 20:25 |
|
Fox-Workin |
never good to hear a town get nailed |
| 20:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
rhcl: you too if you want should come hang out with us in #kohakansas on freenode |
| 20:26 |
|
chris |
tornadoes freak me out |
| 20:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's all about what you're used to I thik |
| 20:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
think |
| 20:26 |
|
Fox-Workin |
chris its just like a typhon only really really smaller |
| 20:26 |
|
rhcl |
Hey Fox, did you see my earlier note? Our publicity guy was the former newpaper editor in Salina. |
| 20:26 |
|
Fox-Workin |
really |
| 20:27 |
|
Fox-Workin |
see this is where i kinda chant its a small world after all |
| 20:27 |
|
Fox-Workin |
:-P |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
now i have to go google what the difference between a typhoon and a hurricane is |
| 20:27 |
|
Fox-Workin |
pacific is typhoon hurricane is atlantic |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
ah ha |
| 20:27 |
|
Fox-Workin |
essentially the same thing except one spins the other way |
| 20:27 |
|
Fox-Workin |
i think..... |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
saved me the trouble, thanks |
| 20:27 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, so he claims. :) He still goes back there pretty often. I think you guys are having a big event this (next?) weekend...a summer festival or something? |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
we get cyclones |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
too |
| 20:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
river festival, right? |
| 20:27 |
|
Fox-Workin |
ya the Smokey Hill River Festival |
| 20:28 |
|
Fox-Workin |
festival jam is actually tonight |
| 20:28 |
|
rhcl |
Yea, that's it. |
| 20:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
ooh... I never understood why it was on a weeknight, festival jam |
| 20:28 |
|
rhcl |
Well, look for Alan this weekend. He's about 7.5 feet tall. |
| 20:28 |
|
Fox-Workin |
ill keep a eye out |
| 20:28 |
|
chris |
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/A1.html |
| 20:28 |
|
rhcl |
or maybe it's only 6 something. :) |
| 20:28 |
|
Fox-Workin |
heh |
| 20:28 |
|
chris |
noaa is cool |
| 20:29 |
|
richard |
hi |
| 20:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
LOL (This is not to be confused with the condition mid-latitude people get during a long, cold and grey winter wishing they could be closer to the equator ;-)) |
| 20:29 |
|
rhcl |
Hi Richard. |
| 20:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
ah meteorologists. |
| 20:29 |
|
chris |
morning richard |
| 20:30 |
|
rhcl |
Anybody know of a users guide to address munin? |
| 20:30 |
|
Fox-Workin |
i used to work pushing carts for Sams so watching the sky became a important aspect of survival |
| 20:30 |
|
rhcl |
Most of the online stuff seems to be for programming. |
| 20:31 |
|
chris |
rhcl: next time gmcharlt is around, ask him |
| 20:31 |
|
rhcl |
yea, will probably do that. |
| 20:32 |
|
rhcl |
@munin info |
| 20:32 |
|
munin |
rhcl: I suck |
| 20:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
munin is a supybot, so presumably you could look up that documentation |
| 20:32 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 20:32 |
|
rhcl |
well, ok, yes, maybe you do, but that didn't work apparently |
| 20:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
munin help |
| 20:32 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 20:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
munin help wunder |
| 20:32 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city. |
| 20:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
munin help bug |
| 20:33 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: (bug <bug_id> [<bug_ids>]) -- Reports the details of the bugs with the listed ids to this channel. Accepts bug aliases as well as numeric ids. Your list can be separated by spaces, commas, and the word "and" if you want. |
| 20:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
munin help gcalc |
| 20:33 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: (gcalc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "Google calc $*". |
| 20:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
munin help karma |
| 20:33 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: (karma [<channel>] [<thing> ...]) -- Returns the karma of <text>. If <thing> is not given, returns the top three and bottom three karmas. If one <thing> is given, returns the details of its karma; if more than one <thing> is given, returns the total karma of each of the things. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. |
| 20:35 |
|
rhcl |
munin help wolframalpha |
| 20:35 |
|
munin |
rhcl: Error: There is no command "wolframalpha". |
| 20:50 |
|
ryan |
@seen kyle |
| 20:50 |
|
munin |
ryan: I have not seen kyle. |
| 20:50 |
|
ryan |
@seen kyleh |
| 20:50 |
|
munin |
ryan: I have not seen kyleh. |
| 20:50 |
|
pianohacker |
@seen gmcharlt |
| 20:50 |
|
munin |
pianohacker: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 59 minutes and 44 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> indeed |
| 21:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
@karma pianohacker |
| 21:11 |
|
munin |
wizzyrea: Karma for "pianohacker" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. |
| 21:12 |
|
wizzyrea |
ooh, you're popular |
| 23:45 |
|
pianohacker |
Paul's got me beat :) |
| 23:56 |
|
brendan |
good late afternoon #koha |
| 23:56 |
|
pianohacker |
Hello |
| 23:57 |
|
brendan |
heya pianohacker |
| 23:57 |
|
brendan |
any new stuff for munin added recently? |
| 23:57 |
|
pianohacker |
Hmm |
| 23:57 |
|
pianohacker |
@marc 245 a |
| 23:57 |
|
munin |
pianohacker: I suck |
| 23:58 |
|
brendan |
I've seen the @wunder @gcalc @quote |
| 23:58 |
|
pianohacker |
Well, there was a MARC command for a short while |
| 23:58 |
|
brendan |
yeah saw that one but don't remember it |
| 23:58 |
|
pianohacker |
There's always the odd problem like bug 2545 |
| 23:58 |
|
munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2545 normal, P3, ---, galen.charlton liblime.com, RESOLVED FIXED, wrong syspref controlling XSLT bib detail display |
| 23:58 |
|
brendan |
right |
| 23:59 |
|
brendan |
munin |
| 23:59 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt and I got old karma stats migrated |
| 23:59 |
|
pianohacker |
@karma |
| 23:59 |
|
munin |
pianohacker: Highest karma: "paul_p" (50), "hdl_laptop" (39), and "chris" (30). Lowest karma: "savannah" (-3), "encoding" (-3), and "ie" (-2). You (pianohacker) are ranked 15 out of 243. |
| 23:59 |
|
brendan |
@karma brendan |
| 23:59 |
|
munin |
brendan: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 00:00 |
|
brendan |
the first one is always the hardest |
| 00:00 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh |
| 00:00 |
|
pianohacker |
You're doing better than poor benighted savannah |
| 00:00 |
|
brendan |
heh |
| 00:58 |
|
pianohacker |
hey |
| 01:36 |
|
brendan |
@wunder goleta, ca |
| 01:36 |
|
munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Near Shadow Hills, Santa Barbara, California is 19.6°C (6:30 PM PDT on June 11, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:39 |
|
brendan |
hehe |
| 01:39 |
|
pianohacker |
It can be a pain, tho |
| 01:39 |
|
brendan |
well I lived inthe humidity for so many years and that was just miserable |
| 01:40 |
|
brendan |
I really like it here in Santa Barbara -- where the temp is close to 80 everyday of the year |
| 01:40 |
|
pianohacker |
That does sound quite nice |
| 01:43 |
|
bignose-work |
enjoy it while it lasts |
| 01:43 |
|
bignose-work |
the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to. |
| 01:44 |
|
brendan |
sigh |
| 01:45 |
|
brendan |
@quote |
| 01:45 |
|
munin |
brendan: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 01:53 |
|
pianohacker |
@help quote |
| 01:53 |
|
munin |
pianohacker: Error: There is no command "quote". |
| 01:53 |
|
pianohacker |
Ahh. @ quote add |
| 01:54 |
|
brendan |
@quote |
| 01:54 |
|
munin |
brendan: downloading the Perl source |
| 01:55 |
|
pianohacker |
@quote random |
| 01:55 |
|
munin |
pianohacker: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) |
| 01:55 |
|
chris |
@quote add < bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to. |
| 01:55 |
|
munin |
chris: The operation succeeded. Quote #3 added. |
| 02:11 |
|
pianohacker |
Good night, all |
| 03:17 |
|
brendan |
hey Jo |
| 03:24 |
|
chris |
hey jo, hope the kids are feeling better |
| 03:28 |
|
brendan |
chris -- I need a vacuum - all I have is a shop vac -- so I only vacuum like every two weeks |
| 03:29 |
|
brendan |
surprisingly missing the evening/morning hello from amit |
| 03:29 |
|
chris |
yeah, i think he is still at home |
| 03:30 |
|
brendan |
so he's back in delhi |
| 03:30 |
|
brendan |
delhi has to be one of the craziest cities on the planet |
| 03:31 |
|
brendan |
@wunder new delhi, india |
| 03:31 |
|
munin |
brendan: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 33.0°C (8:30 AM IST on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:33 |
|
chris |
wow i didnt realise quite how big the company he works for is |
| 03:34 |
|
brendan |
@gcalc 33 celsius in fahrenheit |
| 03:34 |
|
munin |
brendan: 33 degrees Celsius = 91.4 degrees Fahrenheit |
| 03:34 |
|
chris |
jo: http://www.osslabs.biz/kete_di[…]tem/services.html |
| 03:35 |
|
chris |
http://www.osslabs.biz/about/#11 |
| 03:39 |
|
richard |
way cool |
| 03:44 |
|
Jo |
hi ya |
| 03:45 |
|
Jo |
Chris: wow ! |
| 03:45 |
|
Jo |
is that Amit? |
| 03:45 |
|
chris |
they of course do koha too |
| 03:46 |
|
Jo |
his fiorm, I mean |
| 03:46 |
|
Jo |
has walter seen this |
| 03:46 |
|
chris |
yep thats who he works for |
| 03:46 |
|
chris |
not sure |
| 03:47 |
|
chris |
richard can cut and paste it on #katipo for him ;) |
| 03:48 |
|
Jo |
i pasted it too twitter too |
| 03:48 |
|
Jo |
hes busy doing "yes's" lol |
| 03:48 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 03:49 |
|
chris |
that is a great movie |
| 03:49 |
|
richard |
yep - pasted in |
| 03:51 |
|
Jo |
I'm keeping the kids drugged ... seems to work quite well |
| 03:52 |
|
chris |
flu? |
| 03:52 |
|
Jo |
they areall sprawled in front of the wood burner wityh assorted cats and dogs and blankets and teddies |
| 03:53 |
|
Jo |
dunno - they aren't oinking yet |
| 03:53 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 03:53 |
|
Jo |
but i think so |
| 03:53 |
|
chris |
i give it 2 more weeks tops |
| 03:53 |
|
chris |
before all this quarantine thing goes away and they just treat it as a mild form of seasonal flu |
| 03:53 |
|
Jo |
yep - I agree. |
| 03:54 |
|
chris |
more ppl died in one week of seasonal flu in the us, than have died cos of swine flu in the world this whole year |
| 03:54 |
|
Jo |
ok - time to go back to the kitchen ...I'd rather be a librarian than a mummy sometimes! |
| 03:54 |
|
chris |
cya later |
| 03:54 |
|
richard |
they will have to find another tactic to keep the global sense of unease up |
| 03:54 |
|
Jo |
cya |
| 03:54 |
|
richard |
cya |
| 03:54 |
|
Jo |
Richard; the site koha 3.0 opac is gorgeous |
| 03:54 |
|
Jo |
so gorgeous. |
| 03:54 |
|
chris |
be nice if they focused on malaria, or something .. but only brown people get that, so they wont worry |
| 03:55 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 03:55 |
|
Jo |
please do - the artists is thrilled to bits with it. |
| 03:55 |
|
richard |
that is excellent news. i was a bit worried if she wouldn't like it |
| 03:56 |
|
Jo |
no way - quite definitely the oppossite |
| 03:56 |
|
chris |
ohh pleasing that artist, double pats for dean |
| 03:56 |
|
chris |
that=the |
| 03:56 |
|
Jo |
:) |
| 04:00 |
|
Jo |
would be cool to have KohaCon 2012 in India - I havn't been then yet |
| 04:00 |
|
Jo |
and so want to |
| 04:01 |
|
brendan |
hey Jo -- http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=kohausers&s[]=pacifica got my first one up there -- the library posted it up there -- I really need get them on the IRC |
| 04:03 |
|
brendan |
good for amit |
| 04:27 |
|
richard |
cool stuff brendan |
| 04:28 |
|
brendan |
sweet thanks richard |
| 04:37 |
|
brendan |
@gcalc a squared plus b squared equals c squared |
| 04:37 |
|
munin |
brendan: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 04:37 |
|
brendan |
@gcalc a2 + b2 = c2 |
| 04:37 |
|
munin |
brendan: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 04:37 |
|
brendan |
munin the answer is Pythagorean theorem |
| 04:37 |
|
munin |
brendan: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 04:46 |
|
Jo |
Brendan: go you! well done. may it be the first of many |
| 04:46 |
|
brendan |
thanks Jo - hope the kiddos are doing ok |
| 04:50 |
|
brendan |
hey chris -- I forgot what does Korerorero mean ? |
| 04:51 |
|
chris |
discussion |
| 04:51 |
|
brendan |
thanks |
| 04:51 |
|
chris |
korerero = talk, korerorero = discussion |
| 05:16 |
|
bignose-work |
trying to follow (and update, while I go) the instructions at <URL:http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]uide_ubuntu_hardy> |
| 05:16 |
|
bignose-work |
attempting to satisfy the perl package dependencies, I get: |
| 05:16 |
|
bignose-work |
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libnet-z3950-zoom-perl" |
| 05:16 |
|
bignose-work |
is that package needed? where do I get it from if the repositories don't have it? |
| 05:19 |
|
chris |
did you do this bit |
| 05:19 |
|
chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]kage_repositories |
| 05:20 |
|
chris |
if so try http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/ubuntu/ |
| 05:20 |
|
chris |
with hardy instead |
| 05:21 |
|
chris |
i dont know why its trying to use sarge, but the perl module is probably in the backports section anyway |
| 05:22 |
|
bignose-work |
not sure what you're saying. I should change the IndexData repository config? |
| 05:23 |
|
bignose-work |
oh bollocks |
| 05:23 |
|
bignose-work |
I *did* miss that step :-) |
| 05:24 |
|
chris |
yeah add that step, but id leave backports the same, but change the indexdata to do the ubuntu repo instead of sarge |
| 05:24 |
|
bignose-work |
so, change the line to: |
| 05:24 |
|
bignose-work |
deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/debian/ hardy main |
| 05:24 |
|
bignose-work |
? |
| 05:25 |
|
chris |
hmm, do you know your way around apt ? |
| 05:25 |
|
bignose-work |
yes |
| 05:26 |
|
chris |
change debian to ubuntu |
| 05:26 |
|
bignose-work |
deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/ubuntu/ hardy main |
| 05:26 |
|
chris |
yep, that looks ok |
| 05:26 |
|
chris |
that will contain the files you need for zebra and yaz |
| 05:27 |
|
chris |
and backports should have the z3950 perl module, if not you can cpan it on |
| 05:27 |
|
bignose-work |
okay. if that works I'll update the "install on Ubuntu 8.04" instructions with that. |
| 05:27 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 05:27 |
|
bignose-work |
what would be the CPAN package name for z3950? |
| 05:28 |
|
chris |
Net::Z3950 |
| 05:28 |
|
brendan |
something like net::z3950 |
| 05:28 |
|
brendan |
chris ++ |
| 05:30 |
|
bignose-work |
and I *don't* want 'libyaz2-dev', right? |
| 05:30 |
|
bignose-work |
instead I want the 'libyaz-dev' from IndexData? |
| 05:35 |
|
brendan |
bignose-work which manual are you working off ? |
| 05:35 |
|
bignose-work |
brendan: <URL:http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]uide_ubuntu_hardy> |
| 05:36 |
|
bignose-work |
updating it as I go |
| 05:36 |
|
bignose-work |
I mistakenly thought 'libyaz2-dev' was the name needed, before I realised I'd missed the IndexData repository. |
| 05:37 |
|
brendan |
did you get some error with lib-yaz2 |
| 05:37 |
|
bignose-work |
now I'm just confirming that 'libyaz-dev' is actually the name of the package I want. |
| 05:37 |
|
bignose-work |
true? |
| 05:38 |
|
brendan |
i think you can get lib-yaz2 through the backports |
| 05:39 |
|
bignose-work |
I can, yes. do I want that one, or do I want 'libyaz-dev'? |
| 05:39 |
|
bignose-work |
backports has 'libyaz2-dev'. |
| 05:39 |
|
brendan |
did you also add the deb-src data.dk/pub/ubuntu/ hardy main |
| 05:39 |
|
bignose-work |
brendan: see the discussion in this channel for the past half hour |
| 05:40 |
|
bignose-work |
ah, deb-src? no. |
| 05:40 |
|
bignose-work |
why? |
| 05:40 |
|
bignose-work |
none of the instructions need any source packages. |
| 05:40 |
|
brendan |
yaz zebra etc need the source packages |
| 05:41 |
|
brendan |
everything else is in the ubuntu src |
| 05:41 |
|
bignose-work |
okay, it seems there's no 'libyaz-dev' at all. only 'libyaz2-dev' from backports. IndexData doesn't make any difference there. |
| 05:41 |
|
brendan |
yeah not sure about that one |
| 05:42 |
|
bignose-work |
brendan: how do they need the source packages? I just finished installing all the CPAN packages after mistakenly not having IndexData in there at all |
| 05:42 |
|
bignose-work |
and it appeared to work. |
| 05:42 |
|
bignose-work |
is that a false appearance? when are the source packages needed? |
| 05:43 |
|
brendan |
correct -- indexdata is for yaz and zebra... |
| 05:43 |
|
bignose-work |
yes, but when does it need the source? |
| 05:43 |
|
brendan |
not sure what your asking there |
| 05:44 |
|
bignose-work |
you asked me if I have the 'deb-src' line (in addition to the binary packages 'deb' line, I presume). |
| 05:44 |
|
bignose-work |
I'm asking, when are those packages needed? I've gone through the whole "install all the perl packages" process and it didn't seem to be a problem. |
| 05:45 |
|
bignose-work |
AFAICT from the instructions, it never uses any source packages, only the binary 'libfoo-dev' packages. |
| 05:46 |
|
brendan |
correct -- the deb and deb-src you need to add to get yaz and zebra ,, since that is not in the ubuntu binary packages 'deb' line - how I understand it |
| 05:47 |
|
brendan |
sorry debian guy not an ubuntu guy |
| 05:47 |
|
bignose-work |
but do I need both the 'deb' line *and* the 'deb-src' line? the latter is only used when getting a source package, not a binary package. |
| 05:48 |
|
bignose-work |
development versions of libraries are binary packages. |
| 05:48 |
|
brendan |
ok I think I see what you saying -- yes you need both the lines |
| 05:48 |
|
bignose-work |
okay. why? what needs the source packages? |
| 05:49 |
|
bignose-work |
I'm asking to determine if I've already gone too far. |
| 05:49 |
|
brendan |
I think the deb-src line comes in during these commands |
| 05:49 |
|
brendan |
sudo aptitude install yaz idzebra idzebra-doc |
| 05:49 |
|
bignose-work |
no, that cannot install source packages. |
| 05:49 |
|
bignose-work |
that installs binary packages only. |
| 05:49 |
|
brendan |
ok -- not sure then |
| 05:49 |
|
bignose-work |
(there's no way for 'aptitude' to fetch source packages, AFAICT.) |
| 05:50 |
|
bignose-work |
okay. there's no 'libyaz-dev', but there is (now, after setting the IndexData repository) a 'libyaz3-dev' |
| 05:50 |
|
bignose-work |
and it seems I need that for setting up the Perl packages from CPAN |
| 06:00 |
|
mason |
fyi: u dont need the src files... |
| 06:01 |
|
mason |
unless you are building something on an unsupported arch |
| 06:02 |
|
bignose-work |
okay. I'll remove that from the install instructions then, to reduce confusion. |
| 06:02 |
|
mason |
i assume those instrcutions are there as a catch-all |
| 06:03 |
|
bignose-work |
I wouldn't assume that; they are much more like leading-me-by-the-hand |
| 06:03 |
|
mason |
historically amd-64 boxes needed the src to comple - as there wasnt a binary .deb |
| 06:04 |
|
bignose-work |
if I want to hack on the code of dependent packages, or re-build them, I'm going to need rather different steps anyway |
| 06:04 |
|
brendan |
heya mason |
| 06:05 |
|
mason |
heya brendan |
| 06:09 |
|
mason |
agreed - the src line in the ubuntu-guides does look unneeded |
| 06:29 |
|
chris |
good morning europe |
| 06:39 |
|
nicomo |
evening Chris and Oceania |
| 06:45 |
|
thd |
good morning nicomo |
| 06:45 |
|
magnusenger |
good evening, antipodeans |
| 06:45 |
|
nicomo |
hi thd and magnusenger |
| 06:46 |
|
nicomo |
magnusenger: starting to have long hours of sunlight up there, or not yet? |
| 06:47 |
|
magnusenger |
good morning, nicomo! Long hours, indeed! The sun was shining into our living room at half past midnight yesterday (or today, really) |
| 06:48 |
|
nicomo |
very cool |
| 06:48 |
|
nicomo |
i have to go see that some day |
| 06:48 |
|
chris |
i bet you need good curtains :) |
| 06:49 |
|
magnusenger |
good curtains is a must have, yes! |
| 06:49 |
|
nicomo |
shutters |
| 06:49 |
|
nicomo |
with foam injected in the cracks |
| 06:50 |
|
magnusenger |
The hard part isn't getting to sleep, that's why we have dark curtains - the hard part is actually getting into bed, when the sun is shining... ;-) |
| 06:50 |
|
chris |
i can believe that |
| 06:51 |
|
kf |
hi all :) |
| 06:51 |
|
magnusenger |
you're very welcome nicomo! Perhaps we could have some kind of Koha-do up here, some time in the future? :-) |
| 06:51 |
|
thd |
hello kf |
| 06:51 |
|
nicomo |
hi kf |
| 06:54 |
|
nicomo |
well, magnusenger : what's the temperature, and the weather? You know, I live 1 hr and a half from the Mediterranean, I'm not sure I could handle the climate |
| 06:55 |
|
chris |
@wunder bodo, normay |
| 06:55 |
|
munin |
chris: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:55 |
|
chris |
there you go nicomo :) |
| 06:56 |
|
nicomo |
hum |
| 06:56 |
|
magnusenger |
Right now it's all of +11C... We could have a bunch of winter clothes for you mediterraneans... |
| 06:56 |
|
nicomo |
@wunder Lyon, France |
| 06:56 |
|
munin |
nicomo: The current temperature in Lyon Satolas, France is 16.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:56 |
|
nicomo |
that's acceptable : 16°C at 9am |
| 06:56 |
|
magnusenger |
Hah, that's just 4 degrees warmer than here! |
| 06:57 |
|
nicomo |
yes, I'm actually surprised by that |
| 06:57 |
|
nicomo |
we'll run the request next december |
| 06:57 |
|
nicomo |
:-) |
| 06:57 |
|
magnusenger |
the difference might be a bit more then... |
| 06:58 |
|
thd |
@wunder new york city |
| 06:58 |
|
munin |
thd: The current temperature in Peter Cooper Village, New York, New York is 18.1°C (2:57 AM EDT on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:58 |
|
nicomo |
warm, wet and sticky |
| 06:58 |
|
thd |
very wet, I have been waterlogged on my walk home |
| 07:05 |
|
kf |
@wunder konstanz |
| 07:05 |
|
munin |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:06 |
|
chris |
@wunder wellington, new zealand |
| 07:06 |
|
munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:10 |
|
brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
| 07:10 |
|
munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.3°C (12:10 AM PDT on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:15 |
|
magnusenger |
Looks like NY is the winner so far... |
| 07:15 |
|
brendan |
@wunder new delhi, india |
| 07:15 |
|
munin |
brendan: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 40.0°C (12:30 PM IST on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:15 |
|
chris |
40 is crazy talk |
| 07:15 |
|
brendan |
tops for temp |
| 07:16 |
|
brendan |
@wunder miami florida |
| 07:16 |
|
munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Doral, Florida is 26.0°C (3:15 AM EDT on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:16 |
|
chris |
@wunder gainesville florida |
| 07:16 |
|
munin |
chris: The current temperature in Central Gainesville, Gainesville, Florida is 26.2°C (3:16 AM EDT on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:17 |
|
brendan |
@gcalc 40 celsius in fahrenheit |
| 07:17 |
|
munin |
brendan: 40 degrees Celsius = 104 degrees Fahrenheit |
| 07:17 |
|
brendan |
40 is def crazy talk |
| 07:17 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 07:20 |
|
magnusenger |
a bit over the top, yes |
| 07:42 |
|
chris |
hdl_laptop: is paul not around today? i was going to ask if he is watching the rugby tomorrow |
| 07:46 |
|
hdl_laptop |
mmmmm.... He should come in and out |
| 07:46 |
|
brendan |
heya nahuel |
| 07:46 |
|
nahuel |
hey |
| 07:46 |
|
nahuel |
:) |
| 07:47 |
|
brendan |
:) |
| 07:56 |
|
kf |
hi nahuel |
| 07:56 |
|
nahuel |
hi kf |
| 09:05 |
|
slef |
morning |
| 09:06 |
|
slef |
@wunder Weston-super-Mare, SOMERSET |
| 09:06 |
|
munin |
slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 14.1°C (10:05 AM BST on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:06 |
|
chris |
heya slef |
| 09:06 |
|
slef |
that's pretty much it 14C and Mostly Cloudy |
| 09:06 |
|
slef |
ugly summer day |
| 09:11 |
|
davi |
@wunder Madrid. Spain |
| 09:11 |
|
munin |
davi: The current temperature in Madrid, Spain is 27.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:15 |
|
chris |
i think davi wins |
| 09:17 |
|
davi |
I am looking for more humidity |
| 09:18 |
|
chris |
@wunder wellington, new zealand |
| 09:18 |
|
munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (9:00 PM NZST on June 12, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:19 |
|
chris |
you can have some of mine |
| 09:23 |
|
slef |
@bug 2771 |
| 09:23 |
|
munin |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2771 major, P1, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, NEW, 245n and 245p should show in the staff client |
| 09:56 |
|
|Lupin| |
Hi everybody |
| 09:56 |
|
chris |
hi |Lupin| |
| 09:59 |
|
|Lupin| |
Just wondering: what does C4 mean ? |
| 10:02 |
|
chris |
:) ok |
| 10:03 |
|
chris |
horowhenua library trust's old system was called C2 |
| 10:04 |
|
chris |
so the working name for Koha (before we named it Koha) was C4 ... either twice as good, or liable to explode |
| 10:04 |
|
chris |
(it was called kumara for a brief period of time too, before Koha was settled on) |
| 10:04 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: ah I see, thanks. A qite private joke, in the tradition of Unix ones, it seems to me. |
| 10:05 |
|
chris |
had to amuse ourselves somehow :-) |
| 10:05 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: thanks a lot for having explained |
| 10:05 |
|
chris |
no problem |
| 10:07 |
|
chris |
thanks slef |
| 10:07 |
|
|Lupin| |
I thought to something in the same style as C14n for canonicalization, or i18n for internationalization |
| 10:08 |
|
|Lupin| |
:-) |
| 10:08 |
|
slef |
if so, they got it wrong |
| 10:08 |
|
slef |
if you look at it like f5g for a variation of the f-word, it's very rude |
| 10:09 |
|
chris |
dont even go there :) |
| 10:12 |
|
slef |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]_config_and_so_on |
| 10:12 |
|
slef |
updated |
| 10:14 |
|
|Lupin| |
just another question and then I'll keep quite (because lunch time is approaching!) |
| 10:14 |
|
|Lupin| |
is there documentation for the Biblio.pm modules ? |
| 10:14 |
|
|Lupin| |
(and perhaps for oher modules one may want to re-use in scripts...) ? |
| 10:15 |
|
slef |
if there is, it'll be shown by perldoc path/to/C4/Biblio.pm |
| 10:15 |
|
slef |
or sometimes by perldoc C4::Biblio or man C4::Biblio |
| 10:16 |
|
|Lupin| |
slef: oh okay, many many thanks |
| 10:25 |
|
chris |
andrew moore was making html versions of them at one point |
| 10:25 |
|
chris |
which wouldnt be hard to cron |
| 10:27 |
|
chris |
he had the cool smoulder server and was running smoke tests too |
| 10:27 |
|
chris |
i miss him |
| 10:31 |
|
slef |
he's gone? |
| 10:32 |
|
slef |
I think we need a "so long and thanks" from the koha community as well as "welcome to..." ones ;-) |
| 10:32 |
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chris |
yeah good idea |
| 10:32 |
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slef |
I can't keep track |
| 10:32 |
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slef |
maybe we can do it in some semi-automatic way, like 6 months since last activity |
| 10:33 |
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slef |
might even persuade some people to come back or tell us their news |
| 10:33 |
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chris |
good idea |
| 10:33 |
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slef |
some like pate go on to work on other interesting stuff |
| 10:33 |
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slef |
want a "Life After Koha" blog series? |
| 10:34 |
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chris |
i found pate on twitter the other day |
| 10:34 |
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chris |
gnupate |
| 10:34 |
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chris |
hes all ruby'y |
| 10:34 |
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chris |
:) |
| 11:14 |
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nicomo |
chris: "mormon Ruby, Linux, and Soccer geek" |
| 11:14 |
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nicomo |
for gnupate |
| 11:14 |
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nicomo |
that says it all, i guess :-) |
| 11:15 |
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chris |
pate++ |
| 11:15 |
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chris |
hello paul_p :) |
| 11:15 |
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chris |
will you be watching the game tomorrow? |
| 11:15 |
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paul_p |
hello chris & others |
| 11:16 |
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paul_p |
chris: I don't think so. too much work & family needs me. So it will be either Aix-Marseille Universities or Sandrine |
| 11:17 |
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chris |
i wont blurt the score out on irc then :) |
| 11:17 |
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paul_p |
my bet: 45-10 (for NZ of course) |
| 11:17 |
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slef |
I'm out at the regional AGM of one of my co-ops. One of my rare days off from software.coop this month. |
| 11:19 |
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chris |
paul_p: i think it will be a bit closer, but i think nz will win, france are sending quite a strong team this year |
| 11:21 |
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nicomo |
you guys talking about that sport they play in some parts of rural, southern france with an odd-shaped ball? |
| 11:22 |
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chris |
heh |
| 11:22 |
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nicomo |
I don't even get the rules. |
| 11:23 |
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nicomo |
I'd rather see cricket : at least that's exotic to a french northerner like me |
| 11:23 |
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slef |
nicomo: in England, it's played by posh men who like putting their heads by other men's bums |
| 11:23 |
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nicomo |
eheh |
| 11:23 |
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slef |
not cricket |
| 11:24 |
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slef |
cricket is how to stretch a perfectly reasonable sports game into a week off work |
| 11:24 |
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chris |
in england cricket is played by people who like losing to their former colonies :) |
| 11:24 |
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nicomo |
lol |
| 11:24 |
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nicomo |
and win "ashes" |
| 11:24 |
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nicomo |
what's that for a trophy |
| 11:24 |
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slef |
chris: I think you'll find the Netherlands colonised us |
| 11:24 |
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slef |
William of Orange |
| 11:24 |
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chris |
oh true |
| 11:25 |
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chris |
maybe you just lose to everyone now :-) |
| 11:25 |
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slef |
sure we beat someone this week |
| 11:25 |
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chris |
still, at least you made it to the super 8 .. better than australia |
| 11:25 |
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slef |
else we wouldn't be in round 2 |
| 11:25 |
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chris |
yeah |
| 11:26 |
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slef |
nicomo: are you watching the T20? are you in Northern France (= can get BBC easily)? |
| 11:26 |
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nicomo |
slef: the problem with rugby in France is : the "posh" element didn't cross the Channel |
| 11:26 |
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nicomo |
No I can't : I'm FROM northern France, but doesn't live there |
| 11:26 |
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nicomo |
I'm half-exiled half-way to the south |
| 11:26 |
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nicomo |
in Lyon |
| 11:27 |
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slef |
most of France can get BBC but it gets fiddly |
| 11:27 |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
| 11:27 |
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nicomo |
full disclosure : i don't own a tv set |
| 11:27 |
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nicomo |
i'm that type of librarian, you know... |
| 11:27 |
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nicomo |
morning gmcharlt |
| 11:27 |
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chris |
sri lanka vs pakistan starting soon, should be a good game |
| 11:28 |
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slef |
http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/astra2d.html |
| 11:28 |
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chris |
slef: england beat pakistan |
| 11:28 |
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slef |
nicomo: so you're listening on 198kHz, right? Or does RMC blot it out? |
| 11:28 |
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chris |
heya gmcharlt |
| 11:28 |
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slef |
chris: a memorable victory, eh? |
| 11:28 |
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chris |
heh didnt watch that one ;) |
| 11:29 |
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chris |
i watched england vs south africa last night tho |
| 11:29 |
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slef |
might watch that at lunch |
| 11:29 |
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slef |
BBCi highlights loop++ |
| 11:35 |
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nicomo |
"Cannot play media. Sorry, this media is not available in your territory." |
| 11:36 |
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slef |
bounce it off a uk proxy |
| 11:37 |
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slef |
it's pretty easy, like hulu in the USA |
| 11:37 |
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slef |
but broadcast reception is still easier than online |
| 11:37 |
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slef |
which does suck rather |
| 11:37 |
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slef |
especially as it's trivial to copy mpegs from satellite recordings onto my PC |
| 11:38 |
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nicomo |
slef: yes, bus it's just my mother will never "bounce it off a uk proxy" |
| 11:39 |
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chris |
:) |
| 11:40 |
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slef |
yeah, these measures generally punish the people who would obey any copying rules anyway |
| 11:41 |
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slef |
or who would probably pay for what they watched if there was a way to do so |
| 11:41 |
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slef |
but I think nicomo's mother could cope with moving a USB memory stick from the TV to PC and copying files, which is the alternative way to watch on a PC. |
| 11:41 |
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slef |
also harder for the broadcaster to track |
| 11:42 |
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slef |
and easier for mothers to copy for their friends |
| 11:42 |
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slef |
instead of sharing a link to the broadcaster's streaming site |
| 11:42 |
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slef |
so broadcasters can't target advertising as easily |
| 11:43 |
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slef |
anyway, I've been ranting about this for years and it shows no signs of improving. |
| 11:43 |
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slef |
Rumours say that the UK's second broadcaster is contemplating encrypting again. |
| 11:44 |
|
slef |
And we'd only be allowed to subscribe via Rupert Murdoch's non-standard systems.... so that would be "bye bye itv" for me. |
| 11:44 |
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slef |
</rant> |
| 11:45 |
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slef |
lunchtime |
| 11:46 |
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gmcharlt |
is there no media market free for Murdoch's touch? :( |
| 11:46 |
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gmcharlt |
*of |
| 11:47 |
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nicomo |
gmcharlt: yes, italy |
| 11:47 |
|
nicomo |
it's under Berlusconi's fist |
| 11:47 |
|
nicomo |
:-) |
| 11:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
hehe |
| 11:48 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 11:49 |
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|Lupin| |
hi Galen |
| 11:49 |
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gmcharlt |
hi |Lupin| |
| 11:50 |
|
|Lupin| |
(I'm Sebastien IRL) |
| 11:52 |
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chris |
where in france are you |Lupin| ? |
| 11:52 |
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slef |
I guess Paris |
| 11:54 |
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|Lupin| |
yes |
| 11:54 |
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|Lupin| |
slef: how do you know ? |
| 11:57 |
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paul_p |
|Lupin|: reminder: chris is a kiwi, kiwi is the country of all blacks, so chris like Rugby. Sometimes we speek of Rugby. Probability increase when there is a All Black <=> France match. (we were speaking of the match a few minuts ago. You may get some words about that. |
| 11:57 |
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paul_p |
|Lupin|: and if you like Rugby, feel free to give your comment & your bet |
| 11:58 |
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chris |
:) |
| 11:58 |
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magnusenger |
Rugby and Ruby. Hm, is there a connection? |
| 11:59 |
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paul_p |
nope, that's why Koha is in Perl :D |
| 11:59 |
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nicomo |
personally, I'm betting on France to lose, but not too heavily -> that's the best bet for a limited media coverage, which is what I'm aiming for |
| 11:59 |
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gmcharlt |
I'd be interested in seeing a game of Rugby on Rails |
| 11:59 |
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paul_p |
lol |
