| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:09 |
|
eiro |
i want to create an INSTALL.macports directory in the koha root with all required files. any objection ? |
| 12:10 |
|
gmcharlt |
eiro: none from me |
| 12:11 |
|
eiro |
so i do |
| 12:11 |
|
gmcharlt |
eiro++ |
| 12:12 |
|
eiro |
:) |
| 13:26 |
|
slef |
I don't like the INSTALL.freds-pet-OS proliferation |
| 13:26 |
|
slef |
INSTALL should cover the basic principles with some "install as much as possible from packages and here's some ways to find them" section |
| 13:27 |
|
slef |
but maybe I'm a lone voice |
| 13:59 |
|
elwell |
IMHO it should be INSTALL.os and within that differences between versions (case in point - deb4/5 should be same file with notes about whats provided as std by vendor) |
| 15:08 |
|
eiro |
slef, i agreed ... i just do as the others |
| 15:09 |
|
eiro |
i don't try to change the abits of koha people |
| 15:09 |
|
eiro |
just using it |
| 15:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
one thing to keep in mind is a lot of newbie sysadmins try to install Koha |
| 15:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
until a one-stop package is available for a particular platform |
| 15:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
the INSTALL.foo have value IMO |
| 15:11 |
|
eiro |
gmcharlt, i think it would never be like this with macports because you have to install mysql and apache as seraparated process |
| 15:12 |
|
eiro |
the best we can do is use Module::Build to make a cpan Koha::Bundle and create a p5-koha-bundle port |
| 15:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
eiro: there is a Bundle::Koha, but it hasn't been updated for nearly a year |
| 15:14 |
|
gmcharlt |
Bundle::KohaSupport, rather |
| 15:15 |
|
eiro |
gmcharlt, it's easier for me to create a new one than to hijack the old |
| 15:16 |
|
eiro |
gmcharlt, the old one is using MakeMaker, afaik |
| 15:16 |
|
gmcharlt |
eiro: go for it, then, though Mike probably should get a courtesy email |
| 15:16 |
|
eiro |
this is the old way to build modules and i'm not confortable with it |
| 15:24 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: variously, they'll look at INSTALL if there's no INSTALL.my-pet-os and newbie sysadmins maybe should be a little scared |
| 15:25 |
|
slef |
eiro: is Module::Build better than MakeMaker in this situation? Didn't look like it gave much benefit when I looked a few years ago. |
| 15:25 |
|
slef |
except M::B reduced portability very slightly IIRC |
| 16:41 |
|
joetho |
I'm talkin but I ain't hearin. |
| 16:42 |
|
joetho |
<---whoops, wrong channel. Excuse my dumbness. |
| 16:44 |
|
slef |
huh? |
| 19:46 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: What's the story behind chris's signoffs on your add warnings patches? One-time request for review? |
| 19:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: yes |
| 19:49 |
|
pianohacker |
ok |
| 20:07 |
|
chris |
eiro you should talk to mike, who did koha::bundlesupport, and discuss your plans |
| 20:07 |
|
chris |
i hate dupiclated work |
| 20:07 |
|
chris |
sorry bundle::kohasupport |
| 20:07 |
|
chris |
he updated it with the 3.0.0 release, im sure he would be happy to work with you |
| 20:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
elwell: how would you know if the backup system silently stops working? |
| 20:14 |
|
elwell |
gmcharlt: same as now - I only check the status once in a blue moon and then have to wade through mails. I cast an eye over the bacula client on wifes windows machine once in a while when I'm using it (handy systray icon) but the debian box that is the headless server rareley gets logged into |
| 20:15 |
|
elwell |
(this is at home, not a production site) |
| 20:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
could be just as important if you lose your wife's photos ;) |
| 20:16 |
|
elwell |
meh, all the good ones are on flickr and my laptop :-) |
| 20:17 |
|
elwell |
'lost - one sipura voip adapter' I can see the LEDs blinking but can't remmber its IP. nmap time... |
| 20:17 |
|
pianohacker |
elwell: http://bash.org/?5273 |
| 20:18 |
|
elwell |
that the ping but can |
| 20:18 |
|
elwell |
t find it one? |
| 20:29 |
|
pianohacker |
yup |
| 20:29 |
|
elwell |
Product Information |
| 20:29 |
|
elwell |
Product Name:SPA-3102 |
| 20:30 |
|
elwell |
:-) success |
| 20:37 |
|
chris |
kahu just picked up the phone and 'called' his daycare and said "kahu not coming today, staying to watch dinosaurus rex with daddy" |
| 20:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
chris: omg... too funny |
| 20:38 |
|
chris |
1/ he is going, and 2/ even if he wasnt, i have no idea where to find a tyrannosaurus rex in wellington anywyay |
| 20:38 |
|
pianohacker |
dinosaurus rex! |
| 20:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
well there's always the library, right? |
| 20:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
probably plenty of tyrannosaurs there... |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
yeah, but they use TLC and i cant make their catalogue work |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 20:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
HA |
| 20:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
touché |
| 20:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
LOL |
| 20:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris++ |
| 20:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
devious, I like it |
| 20:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
chris++ |
| 20:41 |
|
pianohacker |
Just sic the billing manager on 'im, he'll get his fill of tyrannosaurs |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 20:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
that's tyrants... oh never mind |
| 20:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
this is my favorite time of day in #koha |
| 20:43 |
|
chris |
end of the day for you? |
| 20:46 |
|
elwell |
chris: age of koha? |
| 20:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, end of day for n. americans, beginning of the day for NZ, everyone has the promise of the rest of the day ahead of them |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
koha or kahu? |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
wizzyrea: heh yep, and i dont have to go to work either :) |
| 20:47 |
|
elwell |
kahu sorry, I'm waiting for the 'my daddy is <something embarrasing>' when asked to say about home life. :-) |
| 20:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
a little sad that the french folks are mostly asleep |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
elwell: 2 years and 7 months |
| 20:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
chris: nice! |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
he is really dawdling on eating his toast |
| 20:48 |
|
elwell |
... we then moved :-) |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
delaying tactics |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
heheh thats mean |
| 20:50 |
|
elwell |
chris: enjoy it while you can -- the days of being able to bribe them to do X with some smarties have long evolved into more expensive things. curses at apple for creating the ipod. |
| 20:51 |
|
chris |
i can still bribe him with stories |
| 20:51 |
|
chris |
long may it last |
| 20:51 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 20:51 |
|
elwell |
aye |
| 21:04 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: did you see we passed 10,000 ? |
| 21:05 |
|
pianohacker |
$ git log --oneline | wc -l |
| 21:05 |
|
pianohacker |
10004 <- Yay! |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
and thats just in master, so thats pretty neat |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
ill add that to the history doc, and ill leave it for gmcharlt to blog about :) |
| 21:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
celebrating_arbitrary_numbers++ ;) |
| 21:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
s/arbitrary/symbolic/ |
| 21:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
I think I"ll get excited when we hit 12345 patches |
| 21:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
12:34 is my favorite time of day |
| 21:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
11:23 is a close second |
| 21:27 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: Would it be possible to take the old newlogbot logs, grep for '++|--', and feed them into munin, for total karma? |
| 21:28 |
|
pianohacker |
Hehe, 12:34 is fun (12:34, too, if you're a night owl) |
| 21:28 |
|
pianohacker |
*12:34 AM |
| 21:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: better get cracking then |
| 21:28 |
|
wizzyrea |
man, I bet you do 1k patches a month... I'm not sure if/when you sleep |
| 21:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: let's make a deal - I'll give you a text file of all log entries with ++ or --, and you give me a python script to feed it into munin's database |
| 21:29 |
|
pianohacker |
Hmm. Sounds like a plan :) |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
ooh, it's a geek challenge! |
| 21:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
a clever disguise for my plan to make pianohacker do most of the work |
| 21:30 |
|
pianohacker |
Bah, I need a distraction from my Japanese kanji flashcards anyway |
| 21:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
not such a clever disguise now that you've admitted it! |
| 21:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
doh! |
| 21:37 |
|
pianohacker |
Hello, owen |
| 21:38 |
|
owen |
Hi pianohacker |
| 21:38 |
|
pianohacker |
How're the kids treating you? |
| 21:41 |
|
owen |
Sorry, I'd have answered sooner but they all started yelling at once ;) |
| 21:41 |
|
pianohacker |
That's actually a fairly good answer :P |
| 21:43 |
|
owen |
Hopping onto #koha when I'm at home usually is their cue to become needy |
| 21:43 |
|
pianohacker |
Young children do have, if nothing else, a sense of timing |
| 21:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: I just emailed you the data file for karma |
| 21:46 |
|
pianohacker |
Ok, thanks |
| 21:53 |
|
pianohacker |
There are not _nearly_ enough IE--'s in here |
| 21:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
no stuffing the ballot box! |
| 21:54 |
|
pianohacker |
Bah, I'll just have diebold write the script for me |
| 21:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
considering Diebold used MS Access in their voting machines, I'd watch out for lots of IE++ |
| 21:55 |
|
pianohacker |
heh |
| 22:22 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: are you anywhere near the Rangeview Library District? http://www.rangeviewld.org/ran[…]ng-dewey%E2%80%9D |
| 22:23 |
|
pianohacker |
Hmm, about two hours away |
| 22:23 |
|
pianohacker |
I need to organize a road trip with some colleagues from my library |
| 22:23 |
|
pianohacker |
thanks |
| 22:30 |
|
chris |
3back |
| 22:30 |
|
chris |
-3 |
| 22:44 |
|
chris |
and now away again |
| 22:54 |
|
pianohacker |
Okay, data sent back |
| 22:56 |
|
pianohacker |
Bah, gmcharlt: |
| 23:01 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: Logging off for day, let me know if the import succeeds |
| 23:01 |
|
pianohacker |
Bye, all |
| 23:02 |
|
chris |
that dudes a legend |
| 23:02 |
|
chris |
pianohacker++ |
| 23:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma |
| 23:06 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Highest karma: "paul_p" (50), "hdl_laptop" (39), and "chris" (28). Lowest karma: "savannah" (-3), "encoding" (-3), and "ie" (-2). You (gmcharlt) are ranked 6 out of 221. |
| 23:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker++ |
| 23:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
@later tell pianohacker karma imported successfully |
| 23:07 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma koha |
| 23:08 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "koha" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 23:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:08 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. |
| 23:34 |
|
ryan |
uh, git++ ? |
| 23:34 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 23:35 |
|
chris |
@karma git |
| 23:35 |
|
munin |
chris: Karma for "git" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. |
| 23:35 |
|
chris |
@karma uh, git |
| 23:35 |
|
munin |
chris: git: 3. uh, has neutral karma. |
| 23:35 |
|
chris |
@karma uh, git? |
| 23:35 |
|
munin |
chris: I didn't know the karma for any of those things. |
| 23:35 |
|
chris |
i wonder where that karma went :) |
| 23:35 |
|
chris |
git++ |
| 23:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:36 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 23:36 |
|
chris |
i think the uh, must have confused it? |
| 23:36 |
|
chris |
or maybe the ? |
| 23:36 |
|
ryan |
i guess it doesn't count such noncommittal kudos :) |
| 23:37 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 23:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
or is it the spaces git++ |
| 23:37 |
|
ryan |
git++ !!! |
| 23:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:37 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 23:37 |
|
ryan |
dang |
| 23:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
git++ ? |
| 23:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:37 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 23:37 |
|
chris |
yeah seems nothing can trail the ++ |
| 23:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
we'll see about that |
| 23:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
@reload Karma |
| 23:41 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
git++ # smarter, now? |
| 23:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:41 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 23:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
git++ # smarter, now? |
| 23:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:42 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 23:43 |
|
gmcharlt |
@reload Karma |
| 23:43 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:43 |
|
gmcharlt |
git++ # smarter, now? |
| 23:43 |
|
chris |
he's mocking you |
| 23:43 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:43 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 23:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
space git++ |
| 23:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:44 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 23:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma space git |
| 23:44 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: git: 4. space has neutral karma. |
| 23:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
git++ # work, damn you! |
| 23:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:46 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 23:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
git++ |
| 23:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma |
| 23:46 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Highest karma: "paul_p" (50), "hdl_laptop" (39), and "chris" (28). Lowest karma: "savannah" (-3), "encoding" (-3), and "ie" (-2). You (gmcharlt) are ranked 6 out of 224. |
| 23:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:47 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
| 23:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
fine, be that way for now |
| 23:51 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 23:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
git++ # work, damn you! |
| 23:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
@karma git |
| 23:53 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Karma for "git" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6. |
| 23:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
success! |
| 23:56 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 23:56 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt++ |
| 01:14 |
|
LBA |
Hi Chris, thought you should know I made it in. Thanks! |
| 01:15 |
|
chris |
excellent :) |
| 01:15 |
|
bignose-work |
howdy all |
| 01:16 |
|
bignose-work |
I'm hoping to figure out why LDAP authentication isn't working, as per my message to the mailing list yesterday |
| 01:16 |
|
chris |
ahh you have missed gmcharlt and atz, who know the most about it |
| 01:16 |
|
bignose-work |
missed them? they're gone for the day? sheesh, bloomin' early knock-off kiwis :-) |
| 01:17 |
|
chris |
they are americans |
| 01:17 |
|
bignose-work |
ah. well then I wonder why they didn't respond to my message yesterday? |
| 01:17 |
|
chris |
i only just saw it on the mailing list this morning |
| 01:17 |
|
chris |
it may have got held up |
| 01:18 |
|
bignose-work |
right. I made sure to send it last night so that a USA business day would elapse with that message in their face :-) |
| 01:19 |
|
chris |
yep, they are pretty busy people, and have a bunch of clients they have to look after, so i suspect they just got busy |
| 01:19 |
|
bignose-work |
understood. |
| 01:19 |
|
bignose-work |
what can I do to troubleshoot further? |
| 01:19 |
|
chris |
no idea, LDAP isnt used by any of the people i do Koha work for im afraid |
| 01:20 |
|
bignose-work |
is it possible to see more detail of what Koha is doing when I try to authenticate? |
| 01:20 |
|
chris |
you could put some warns in the code |
| 01:20 |
|
bignose-work |
is there a logging level parameter I can tweak? |
| 01:21 |
|
chris |
some scripts have a $DEBUG switch you can set to on, not sure about the LDAP module |
| 01:22 |
|
bignose-work |
hmm. no configuration-file parameter for logging level? |
| 01:22 |
|
chris |
there is one in system preferences |
| 01:30 |
|
bignose-work |
hold on, what exactly does the “Unauthorized user� message mean? |
| 01:30 |
|
bignose-work |
it is displayed from the ‘auth.tmpl’ template if ‘nopermission’ is set |
| 01:31 |
|
bignose-work |
but that doesn't mean the *authentication* failed, does it? |
| 01:31 |
|
bignose-work |
Could it be that I've actually succeeded in logging in, but the account has no authorization? |
| 01:31 |
|
chris |
could well be |
| 01:31 |
|
chris |
what permissions does the user have? |
| 01:32 |
|
bignose-work |
I've no idea. |
| 01:32 |
|
bignose-work |
I'm not a Koha user, I'm setting it up for a client, so I'm very new at how it works. |
| 01:32 |
|
bignose-work |
how can I tell whether a user is known to Koha and what permissions they have? |
| 01:32 |
|
chris |
if you go to the librarian interface, and search for that user, then you can check the permissions |
| 01:33 |
|
bignose-work |
the librarian interface, is that what I get when I log in as the administrator of the Koha database? |
| 01:33 |
|
bignose-work |
or do I need to visit a different page for that? |
| 01:33 |
|
chris |
as long as your arent going to the opac thats right |
| 01:33 |
|
bignose-work |
okay, I searched for the user by name and got no results. |
| 01:35 |
|
bignose-work |
but if I succssfully authenticate, and the config has ‘<replicate>1</replicate>’ in the ‘<ldapserver>’ section, that should mean the user is replicated when they first log in. right? |
| 01:36 |
|
chris |
i think so, as i said, i have never used the LDAP part of koha |
| 01:39 |
|
bignose-work |
okay. which database table should I be querying to know whether the user is in it? |
| 01:39 |
|
bignose-work |
the ‘user_permissions’ table has no records. |
| 01:40 |
|
chris |
borrowers |
| 01:40 |
|
bignose-work |
also empty. |
| 01:40 |
|
chris |
doesnt look like it made the user then |
| 01:41 |
|
bignose-work |
thanks. can you think of any further diagnosis I can do, before sending another message for our friends across the pond? |
| 01:41 |
|
chris |
not apart from putting some warns in the code and seeing where its getting stuck |
| 01:42 |
|
bignose-work |
I'd like to leave the code untouched since I'm not prepared to root around fixing it if I mess it up :-) |
| 01:42 |
|
bignose-work |
thanks for your help |
| 01:42 |
|
chris |
fair enough, good luck :) |
| 02:51 |
|
chris |
hmm can anyone get to http://koha.org ? |
| 02:52 |
|
Jo |
hi Chris. |
| 02:52 |
|
Jo |
hows the family? |
| 02:53 |
|
chris |
pretty good, kahu is at daycare and atarau is chilling on the couch with me |
| 02:53 |
|
Jo |
lovely :) |
| 03:50 |
|
chris |
wow koha.org is totally dead |
| 06:00 |
|
thd |
chris: at least we know that the problem is not that NZ lost internet access as in times in the past :) |
| 06:09 |
|
kf |
good morning #koha |
| 06:09 |
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thd |
good morning kf |
| 06:31 |
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eiro |
chris, i read your lines: i will (if i work on it) |
| 06:50 |
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chris |
thd: nope, im getting proxy error? looks like the plone instance is down |
| 06:50 |
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chris |
eiro: excellent :-) |
| 06:51 |
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thd |
chris: yes scripts to ensure your Zope instance keeps running are important |
| 06:59 |
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paul_p |
hi chris & thd & anyone else |
| 06:59 |
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chris |
hi there paul_p |
| 06:59 |
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thd |
hello paul_p |
| 07:00 |
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eiro |
hi paul_p |
| 07:07 |
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chris |
hi Kivutar |
| 07:07 |
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Kivutar |
hello all :) |
| 07:07 |
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chris |
i noticed with your patches, that you might need to run git-config |
| 07:08 |
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chris |
to set your email address |
| 07:08 |
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Kivutar |
it's strange, I ran it to set my name and email, but it doesn't seem to work |
| 07:08 |
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chris |
ahh did you do the --global option? |
| 07:09 |
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Kivutar |
and I checked my .gitconfig too |
| 07:09 |
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chris |
weird |
| 07:09 |
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Kivutar |
yeah I did |
| 07:09 |
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Kivutar |
this is my .gitconfig : |
| 07:09 |
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Kivutar |
[user] |
| 07:09 |
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Kivutar |
name = Jean-André Santoni |
| 07:09 |
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Kivutar |
email = jeanandre.santoni biblibre.com |
| 07:10 |
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chris |
odd, not sure what happened ... unless they are old commits? |
| 07:10 |
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Kivutar |
no they aren't |
| 07:10 |
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Kivutar |
ahhh maybe! |
| 07:11 |
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Kivutar |
yeah, you're right, I commited before setting these options |
| 07:13 |
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Kivutar |
thanks |
| 07:17 |
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nahuel |
gmcharlt, hi |
| 07:17 |
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nahuel |
gmcharlt, my patch about diacritics in categorycodes, it's because diacritics are allowed in the code |
| 07:17 |
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nahuel |
gmcharlt, It's logical diacritics should not be allowed in "codes", but well, some installation already have diacritics. |
| 07:20 |
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chris |
i think he might still be asleep |
| 07:23 |
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chris |
right, getting kahu ready for bed, bbiab |
| 07:23 |
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nicomo_laptop |
hi all |
| 07:23 |
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nahuel |
chris, hmmm |
| 07:23 |
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nahuel |
chris, hi ! |
| 07:23 |
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nahuel |
:) |
| 07:23 |
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nahuel |
munin, tell gmcharlt my patch about diacritics in categorycodes, it's because diacritics are allowed in the code |
| 07:23 |
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nahuel |
munin, tell gmcharlt It's logical diacritics should not be allowed in "codes", but well, some installation already have diacritics. |
| 07:24 |
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nahuel |
hehe |
| 07:31 |
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chris |
you can do this nahuel |
| 07:34 |
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chris |
@later tell gmcharlt something :) |
| 07:34 |
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munin |
chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:34 |
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chris |
but it works on login i think |
| 07:34 |
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chris |
@help later |
| 07:34 |
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munin |
chris: Error: There is no command "later". |
| 07:34 |
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nahuel |
ok |
| 07:35 |
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nahuel |
well i'll retell him when he'll be alive |
| 07:35 |
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chris |
so it only works for people who have logged out :) |
| 07:35 |
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chris |
paul_p: did you see this? |
| 07:35 |
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chris |
@karma |
| 07:35 |
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munin |
chris: Highest karma: "paul_p" (50), "hdl_laptop" (39), and "chris" (28). Lowest karma: "savannah" (-3), "encoding" (-3), and "ie" (-2). You (chris) are ranked 3 out of 224. |
| 07:36 |
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chris |
you can do 50 bad things now :-) |
| 07:36 |
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paul_p |
hehe... I'm quite surprised, as I am quite silent here ;-) |
| 07:42 |
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chris |
@later tell nicomo_laptop stick around a bit longer this time :) |
| 07:42 |
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munin |
chris: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:42 |
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kf |
hi there, I have a question about Koha and nonfiling characters and sorting - I found that sortbynonfiling (Sort search results by MARC nonfiling characters) is deprecated - so Koha cant sort according to nonfiling characters? |
| 07:43 |
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kf |
speaking of MARC21 |
| 07:43 |
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chris |
ahh, i dont know im afraid |
| 07:44 |
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kf |
my tests say Koha cant - but dont wanted to say something like that without asking |
| 07:45 |
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kf |
http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ruary/005805.html < Koha was able to do it |
| 07:46 |
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chris |
interesting, i think you might need to ask gmcharlt |
| 07:46 |
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kf |
cant find out, why its deprecated in bugzilla @bug 1960 :( |
| 07:46 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1960 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, ASSIGNED, sortbynonfiling deprecated |
| 07:49 |
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kf |
ok, thx chris |
| 07:54 |
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chris |
hmm maybe paul_p knows |
| 07:57 |
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kf |
I think its handled differently in UNIMARC, with nonfiling characters, marc21 uses second indicator |
| 07:58 |
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chris |
@wunder lyno |
| 07:58 |
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munin |
chris: I suck |
| 07:58 |
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chris |
@wunder lyon |
| 07:58 |
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munin |
chris: downloading the Perl source |
| 07:58 |
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chris |
@wunder lyon, france |
| 07:58 |
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munin |
chris: downloading the Perl source |
| 07:58 |
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chris |
gah |
| 07:58 |
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hdl_laptop |
Kf it depends on the ILS. |
| 07:58 |
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paul_p |
kf: yep, it's handled differentsly in UNIMARC |
| 07:59 |
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hdl_laptop |
kf: with MARC21 indicator, it could be managed with dom-config for MARC21.xml |
| 08:00 |
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kf |
for sorting or for search? |
| 08:01 |
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hdl_laptop |
for sorting, at leaset, and if you want for search |
| 08:01 |
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kf |
dont know what can be done with MARC21.xml and to make it more complicate we are using Zebra with ICU |
| 08:01 |
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kf |
ok, will have to ask my colleague to look into this |
| 08:02 |
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hdl_laptop |
we have done some testing on dom config and icu, and it worked out quite well, But I couldnot send the configuration and integrate it well into the project. |
| 08:04 |
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kf |
will ICU be part of Koha soon? We are using a file, I found on the mailing list |
| 08:04 |
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kf |
and you cant use fuzzy search with ICU |
| 08:05 |
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chris |
what are the benefits of ICU kf? |
| 08:06 |
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kf |
you cant search for hebrew without it |
| 08:07 |
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kf |
as far as I understand, without you can only index up to 256 characters |
| 08:07 |
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kf |
when searching for hebrew before using icu, you always got all hebrew titles back |
| 08:08 |
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kf |
in results |
| 08:11 |
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chris |
ahh |
| 08:11 |
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chris |
in that case its probably needed for lots of other languages |
| 08:25 |
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kf |
and ICU has some awesome features for transliteration |
| 08:25 |
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chris |
is there an RFC for it on the wiki? |
| 08:28 |
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kf |
no |
| 08:29 |
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chris |
i think we should write one up, would you be able to start one? |
| 08:29 |
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chris |
feel free to say no, if you dont have time |
| 08:30 |
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kf |
I cant do it, perhaps we can share the file we use |
| 08:30 |
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kf |
but all we did so far came from snippets on the mailing list |
| 08:30 |
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kf |
Im searching for one particular mail to show you atm |
| 08:31 |
|
kf |
http://spedr.com/5j29b |
| 08:32 |
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chris |
i will try to talk to galen about it |
| 08:33 |
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kf |
Marc Nürnberger is German - found out last week |
| 08:33 |
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chris |
i see that other people have been trying to do it, (someone from thailand) |
| 08:33 |
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kf |
they have Chinese, Japanese and Korean titles |
| 08:34 |
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chris |
so definitely it is wanted |
| 08:34 |
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chris |
ohh cool |
| 08:34 |
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kf |
perhaps we can put something together |
| 08:34 |
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chris |
that would be awesome |
| 08:35 |
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kf |
dont know if hes here *looking around* but writing an email is on my list |
| 08:35 |
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chris |
:) |
| 08:46 |
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chris |
kf++ |
| 08:49 |
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hdl_laptop |
chris: we already have one which is getting better and better for french |
| 08:50 |
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chris |
ohh, cool, so maybe we need a place like the sql page, where we can put all the files for people to use? or maybe a directory in git we can store them? |
| 08:50 |
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kf |
hi hdl, sorry, I did not remember you working on ICU :( |
| 08:53 |
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hdl_laptop |
chris: directory in git rather. |
| 08:54 |
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hdl_laptop |
hehe Kf I think it is I who sent first icu.xml ;) |
| 08:54 |
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chris |
yep that would be good, easier to track |
| 08:54 |
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kf |
uh |
| 08:54 |
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hdl_laptop |
or rather nahuel |
| 08:54 |
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kf |
I did not remember and when searching for the mail, I thought it was Galen - im sorry, again |
| 08:55 |
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hdl_laptop |
no problem |
| 08:55 |
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kf |
hdl++ (for the file :) ) |
| 09:09 |
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chris |
paul_p: are you going to watch the game this weekend? |
| 09:14 |
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chris |
hmm what is SIGB? |
| 09:16 |
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hdl_laptop |
ILS |
| 09:20 |
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chris |
ahh ta |
| 09:50 |
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paul_p |
chris : SIGB is ILS in french : Système Intégré de Gestion de Bibliothèques |
| 09:50 |
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chris |
right nicomo's tweet makes sense now |
| 09:50 |
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paul_p |
Système = système. Intégré = integrated, bibliothèque = libary |
| 09:50 |
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paul_p |
Gestion = management |
| 11:46 |
|
Gaurav |
Hi chris |
| 11:46 |
|
Gaurav |
I am from osslabs.biz |
| 11:46 |
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gmcharlt |
hi Gaurav |
| 11:47 |
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Gaurav |
hi gmcharlt |
| 11:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
clay is looking at the koha.org issue |
| 11:53 |
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Gaurav |
chris: koha staff hindi translation has been completed 100% |
| 11:53 |
|
Gaurav |
see this : http://translate.koha.org/hi/ |
| 11:54 |
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gmcharlt |
yay |
| 11:54 |
|
Gaurav |
see also : http://kohav3demo.osslabs.biz:8080/ |
| 11:55 |
|
Gaurav |
kohaadmin/kohapassword |
| 11:55 |
|
Gaurav |
click on Hindi |
| 11:56 |
|
elwell |
Q - koha.org/showcase -- there's none in Europe showing. Shurely shome mishtake mr bond. |
| 11:59 |
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Gaurav |
gmcharlt : hey Galen..have u seen that hindi translation? |
| 11:59 |
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|Lupin| |
hello everybody |
