| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:23 |
|
mason |
back... |
| 16:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
where does koha load the jquery framework from? |
| 16:36 |
|
pianohacker |
It's stored internally |
| 16:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
reeeeallly |
| 16:36 |
|
pianohacker |
intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/ |
| 16:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
hm. Ok thanks :) |
| 16:37 |
|
pianohacker |
np |
| 16:37 |
|
pianohacker |
What's going on? |
| 16:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
I have everything in place to show the link to place holds, but it's not showing |
| 16:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://nekls.kohalibrary.com/c[…].pl?viewshelf=239 |
| 16:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
multiple holds, that is |
| 16:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
I'm wondering if there's something gone funny with jquery, but I don't think that's the case now |
| 16:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
at least I'm *pretty sure* it's not the case |
| 16:39 |
|
pianohacker |
It's not showing for me either; should it be in a cell at the end of each table row? |
| 16:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, it should be |
| 16:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
what's even weirder |
| 16:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
is that 3 weeks ago we did the same thing on our test server |
| 16:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
and it was showing up |
| 16:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
and now... it's not |
| 16:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
but I haven't changed anything |
| 16:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
on test |
| 16:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's just... gone |
| 16:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
we have a screenshot of it being there... 1s I'll link |
| 16:40 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://www.nexpresslibrary.org[…]re-13-300x110.png |
| 16:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
neither the checkboxes or the link are there, but the code is identical (afaik) |
| 16:43 |
|
pianohacker |
There are two very similar tables built up to display lists, based on (I think) whether you can edit the list or not. Could that be it? |
| 16:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
i'm frankly flummoxed |
| 16:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
I took the template straight from git |
| 16:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
so either there's something wrong with the underlying code (which I don't have access to) or I'm losing my min |
| 16:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
mind* |
| 16:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
or there's something else |
| 16:49 |
|
pianohacker |
Has to be something weird with the code, since the RequestOnOPAC syspref is obviously enabled. |
| 17:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, and it shows on the other places: the results list |
| 17:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
the cart |
| 17:01 |
|
wizzyrea |
i've moved on for now... such a weird problem |
| 18:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
atz: have a sec (or two?) |
| 18:44 |
|
atz |
? |
| 18:46 |
|
atz |
lol "smut" list |
| 18:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe that's sharon's doing |
| 18:46 |
|
Sharon |
guilty as charged |
| 18:47 |
|
atz |
wizzyrea: using jquery? what's the command |
| 18:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
i just sent u a pm |
| 19:12 |
|
atz |
btw, #koha, i posted the slides from my KohaCon presentations |
| 19:16 |
|
gmcharlt |
atz++ |
| 19:23 |
|
chris |
yay for slides |
| 19:37 |
|
Sharon |
is there anything in the works permission-wise to make changing the SET library more difficult? Staffers 'accidently' changing libraries are messin' up my stats and irritating me greatly. |
| 19:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
Sharon: actually, yes |
| 19:37 |
|
pianohacker1 |
$ rm circ/selectbranchprinter.pl # :) |
| 19:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
for WALDO |
| 19:37 |
|
Sharon |
thank god almight |
| 19:37 |
|
Sharon |
y |
| 19:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
or you could thank atz :) |
| 19:38 |
|
Sharon |
joe, god, whoever ;-) |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
does the logging log when someone changes the library? |
| 19:38 |
|
pianohacker1 |
I though the server admins were god |
| 19:38 |
|
Sharon |
i'm just happy to hear it! |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
cos you could go punch them in the arm each time they did it |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
would probably stop it pretty fast |
| 19:39 |
|
Sharon |
Chris I don't know, but I wish I did b/c I would (but then, I'm a bit cranky at the moment) |
| 19:39 |
|
chris |
im cranky only because its 7.42am and im awake hehe |
| 19:39 |
|
pianohacker |
Sharon: Do your libraries use AutoLocation? |
| 19:40 |
|
Sharon |
Let me check |
| 19:40 |
|
pianohacker |
Would only work if they have fixed IP addresses, of course |
| 19:40 |
|
Sharon |
pianohacker no, that is off |
| 19:42 |
|
Sharon |
Liz says we have fixed IP at *most* of our branches, but not all...which is probably why it's off |
| 19:43 |
|
pianohacker |
Actually, I think the IP address field for the branch is a regex, so in _theory_ you could set it to .* for the libraries with non-fixed IPs |
| 19:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
I run (among other things) a statewide proxy for internet filtering, we do that a lot |
| 19:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
but you'd be amazed at how many subnets some ISP's have |
| 19:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
and how often they change |
| 19:43 |
|
pianohacker |
hehe |
| 19:44 |
|
pianohacker |
Qwest in Colorado is particularly bad that way |
| 19:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
simply ludicrous |
| 20:05 |
|
schuster |
question about sql - should know but can't figure out the syntax |
| 20:05 |
|
schuster |
I need to find items not like eq and per ... |
| 20:06 |
|
schuster |
I can get <> 'eq' but how do I put 2 items in that "don't want" type statement? |
| 20:06 |
|
Sharon |
!= maybe? |
| 20:06 |
|
pianohacker |
Are you trying to filter out items of a given type from a report? |
| 20:07 |
|
schuster |
Yes... 2 different type of items eq and per from all the rest |
| 20:07 |
|
schuster |
I have tried <> 'eq, per' but that doesn't work, and not like 'eq, per' doesn't work either |
| 20:07 |
|
pianohacker |
So itemtype != 'eq' AND itemtype != 'per' ? |
| 20:09 |
|
schuster |
well huh... I was trying to find an easier way than what you suggested I guess.... That works. |
| 20:09 |
|
schuster |
Thanks! |
| 20:09 |
|
pianohacker |
np, good luck |
| 20:17 |
|
danny |
schuster: i think you can also do it like itemtype NOT IN ('eq','per') |
| 20:26 |
|
schuster |
danny - that's what I was looking for yep thanks |
| 20:30 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: re your latest patch |
| 20:31 |
|
pianohacker |
I actually made that exact same modification for our library, but I think it should probably have a syspref associated with it |
| 20:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
Hm. What would that be controlling exactly? |
| 20:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
the syspref |
| 20:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
what do you "see" |
| 20:34 |
|
pianohacker |
The print->close javascript snippet |
| 20:34 |
|
pianohacker |
This is just an idea; I think the patch is worth accepting as is |
| 20:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
no no I like ideas :) |
| 20:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
so it would be "auto print reciepts ON or OFF?" |
| 20:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
or somesuch? |
| 20:35 |
|
pianohacker |
Exactly |
| 20:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
Ah. |
| 20:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
well it's not *truly* automatic |
| 20:35 |
|
pianohacker |
Would be a useful one to turn off on dev installs when tweaking the appearance of the receipt |
| 20:35 |
|
pianohacker |
Well no |
| 20:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
you still have to click "print slip" |
| 20:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
and if you don't have the accompanying FF config change it won't autoprint it |
| 20:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
you can still see it |
| 20:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
(and not waste a lot of paper) |
| 20:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
but it would be handy |
| 20:36 |
|
pianohacker |
Maybe "Automatically print checkout receipts when they are shown"? |
| 20:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
I like it, I do |
| 20:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
I'm not smrt enough to write that though ;) |
| 20:38 |
|
wizzyrea |
but *you* are ^.^ |
| 20:39 |
|
pianohacker |
Oh, but this could be your opportunity to dive into the sysprefs code! You'd have such fun |
| 20:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
You're such an optimist. Love it. |
| 20:39 |
|
pianohacker |
Hehehe |
| 20:39 |
|
wizzyrea |
I'm still learning git, a strange fantasy forest of learning on its own |
| 20:40 |
|
pianohacker |
No kidding |
| 20:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
well, I do think that in public libraries that's probably a fairly universal desire, to print the slips "automagically" when you click print slip |
| 20:41 |
|
pianohacker |
True |
| 20:41 |
|
wizzyrea |
i know it is in ours, anyway |
| 20:41 |
|
pianohacker |
Ours too |
| 20:42 |
|
pianohacker |
We almost had a staff revolt when I accidentally removed that code |
| 20:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
:O |
| 20:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
IT"S NOT PRINTING OUR SLIPS OMG OMG |
| 20:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
:D |
| 20:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
not to give you flashbacks |
| 20:42 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah, you _do_ work in the IT field |
| 20:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh do i ever. |
| 20:44 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
i need to refactor and get the totally automagic printing slips back in |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
as part of hlt upgrading |
| 20:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
would that work on hosted systems? |
| 20:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
the way you're thinking of it? |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
depends |
| 20:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: the lpr stuff? |
| 20:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
b/c the old unix printer way doesn't really work with hosted systems. I mean, you COULD do it |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
if the hosting system could talk to the printers then yep, but no not easily |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
we do it at RDL |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
over dsl lines |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
but yeah it would need to be covered by a syspref |
| 20:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
yikes! I bow to you sir. |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
you can do anything with ssh tunnels :) |
| 20:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
I didn't really want to go there with our system |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
yeah, yours is on a biggers scale |
| 20:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's one thing when you have one or two branches that you have total control over |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
rdl only cover about 500km |
| 20:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
but 20-30 libraries, all independent with their own IT folks... not so much |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
yep, so wanna put it back in so it works for them, and doesnt get in the way of you gus |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
guys even |
| 20:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
I actually kind of like it the way it is |
| 20:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
total automagic is nice too |
| 20:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
but is kind of nice to not *have* to print a receipt every time |
| 20:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
some of our more green minded libraries ignore it altogether |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 20:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
or use email receipts |
| 20:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
I don't think we have that yet, gmcharlt, but yea, or that |
| 20:49 |
|
chris |
thats the thing with koha, it should be able to work the way you want it to work |
| 20:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
(is so beautiful) |
| 20:49 |
|
chris |
not the way some dude in an office 10000km away thinks your library should work |
| 20:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
lulz |
| 20:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
and stay out of your way if you don't want it to work in a particular way |
| 20:50 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 20:50 |
|
chris |
hmm i hear "daddy daddy" |
| 20:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
Runn! |
| 20:50 |
|
chris |
nearly 9am .. thats a record sleep in |
| 20:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: good question for envisionware |
| 20:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
i'll forward that on to the tech in ottawa |
| 20:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
thanks |
| 20:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: if the game of telephone gets too bad, we have contacts at envisionware |
| 20:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
k cool |
| 20:57 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: re SC 4326 (SIP2 & load balancing), was your email directed at us or the person at Ottaw? |
| 20:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
for the person at ottawa, I wanted you to know where that was at |
| 20:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
re: sip instability |
| 20:57 |
|
gmcharlt |
ok, thanks for clarifying |
| 20:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
you can kind of file it or attach it to annother ticket re: sip instability |
| 20:57 |
|
wizzyrea |
up2u |
| 20:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
I'm pretty sure that it's his device that's causing the problem |
| 20:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
oi, sorry you have to dig through all of my drivel |
| 20:59 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: Under the old unix-based printing system, you didn't _have_ to print a slip; it just printed one when you scanned an empty barcode (i.e., submitted the checkout form with nothing in the barcode field) |
| 20:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
ah I see, clever |
| 20:59 |
|
pianohacker |
Apparently hlt had a card or widget or _something_ with a blank barcode on it that they could scan |
| 21:00 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 21:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, i suppose you could use any barcode as long as you told koha what it aws |
| 21:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: I've closed 4326 - obv can reopen if it tuning their load balancer doesn't do the trick |
| 21:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
was* |
| 21:00 |
|
chris |
just a barcode |
| 21:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: cool |
| 21:01 |
|
chris |
does envisionware still need some middleware between the scanner and the ils? |
| 21:02 |
|
soul9 |
SelfishMan, the very same? :) |
| 21:03 |
|
SelfishMan |
yep |
| 21:03 |
|
SelfishMan |
There are a few others in here that can be found in the other channel |
| 21:03 |
|
soul9 |
cheers :) |
| 21:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
they are using it only for computer management, chris |
| 21:03 |
|
soul9 |
oh? |
| 21:03 |
|
soul9 |
i guess linode is a pretty good deal, eh? |
| 21:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
so IDK about the whole middleware bit |
| 21:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
n/a in our situation |
| 21:04 |
|
chris |
wizzyrea: ahhh yeah HLT looked at that (pc management) |
| 21:04 |
|
wizzyrea |
it seems to work, with a few caveats |
| 21:04 |
|
SelfishMan |
soul9: yep, linode and koha have made most of my life and work easier |
| 21:05 |
|
soul9 |
cool :) |
| 21:05 |
|
soul9 |
linode is definitely great |
| 21:05 |
|
soul9 |
;) |
| 21:05 |
|
soul9 |
not that i'm saying koha is bad at all |
| 21:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
that's it - out of the channel NOW!!! ;) |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 21:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
I agree, though, that linode is pretty spiffy |
| 21:07 |
|
soul9 |
yep, and the newark datcenter is quite usable from europe too.. |
| 21:08 |
|
chris |
xen rules |
| 21:08 |
|
soul9 |
:) |
| 21:12 |
|
gmcharlt |
si: could you op me - channel needs its title back |
| 21:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: would you mind expanding on commit message of your patch to opac/opac-account.pl and resubmitting |
| 21:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
as submitted, it leaves the reader hanging ;) |
| 21:28 |
|
chris |
can do |
| 21:30 |
|
chris |
Subject: [PATCH] Adding warnings, fixing a bug that meant the title of an item that had a fine was never printed |
| 21:30 |
|
chris |
stupid newline :) |
| 21:30 |
|
chris |
my bad, will fix |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
right kahu is eating porridge and watching the replay of last nights rugby game, my work here is done |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
that should give me about 10 mins to fix the patch, before he finishes :) |
| 21:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
type! type like the wind! |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 21:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
indeed |
| 21:37 |
|
chris |
resent |
| 21:40 |
|
chris |
am i right in remembering ryan is doing work on the accounts/money stuff in koha? |
| 21:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: he has been, and I've been working on it too |
| 21:42 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 21:43 |
|
chris |
one of the things i have on my list is the daily reconciliation report |
| 21:43 |
|
Sharon |
That's great to hear...our librarians are chomping for that very report |
| 21:47 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: does ryan have a code-level spec for the changes he's making? I'm kind of interested, since my library also wants changes to the fines system. |
| 21:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: I can put together what was used and add to the RFC page |
| 21:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
will take me a day or two to gather it together |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
that would rule, ill use that as a base to do an rfc for daily reconciliation |
| 21:49 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: Not a problem, just idle curiosity |
| 21:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
not meaning to be a naysayer... didn't we decide to use bugzilla for enhancement stuff? Or maybe reference the bugzilla entry to the RFC page of the wiki? |
| 21:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
at kohacon? |
| 21:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
or did I misunderstand |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
(not trying to be fly in the ointment... probably failing) |
| 21:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: bugzilla for the changes, sure, but it's not the best place to stick lengthy documentation of architectural changes |
| 21:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
k |
| 21:51 |
|
chris |
bugzilla with a link to the rfc on the wiki ftw |
| 21:51 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:51 |
|
Sharon |
compromise...kumbiya |
| 21:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
I just don't want ppls to expect to see something one place and then find it's somewhere else. there are some militant koha users. |
| 21:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 21:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
umm - who hopefully will allow for things to be ramped up? |
| 21:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
yessir, I would hope they can be patient. |
| 21:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
:D |
| 21:55 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 21:55 |
|
chris |
i can show them the example of ed sharpe |
| 21:55 |
|
chris |
its a good lesson on what happens when ppl push to hard :-) |
| 21:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
who's ed sharpe? |
| 21:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
O.o dare I ask?/ |
| 21:57 |
|
chris |
in the early history of koha 2001/2002 someone who persisted in asking about lccn almost constantly, which meant everyone who at one time was interested in helping ... didnt :-) |
| 21:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
/nod a good lesson |
| 21:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
I take it he's not around anymore |
| 21:59 |
|
gmcharlt |
evidently not :) |
| 21:59 |
|
chris |
You have to have koha have the |
| 21:59 |
|
chris |
ability to use that information for those of us in the upper educational and |
| 21:59 |
|
chris |
scientific community AND NOT HAVE IT SHOWING DEWEY! |
| 22:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
to which one obvious response is, what is the library that UIUC, chopped meat? |
| 22:00 |
|
chris |
"but do it on your own time, i wont help with the spec, or pay anyone ill just yell at you" |
| 22:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
sounds charming |
| 22:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
(UIUC being the largest library in US that uses Dewey, and not exactly a "lower" education institution) |
| 22:01 |
|
wizzyrea |
ok, if I don't talk to you all, have a lovely (continue having, in some cases;) weekend |
| 22:01 |
|
chris |
ahh :) |
| 22:01 |
|
chris |
you too wizzyrea |
| 22:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: you doo |
| 22:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
*too |
| 22:02 |
|
wizzyrea_wkend |
HA |
| 22:02 |
|
wizzyrea_wkend |
Tootles. |
| 22:02 |
|
wizzyrea_wkend |
(Take THAT, character limit!) |
| 22:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
lol |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
ohh another committer |
| 22:41 |
|
chris |
just after i sent a ptach for colin i shoulda waited longer hehe |
| 22:42 |
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gmcharlt |
chris: it's OK to stack the patches to docs/history.txt |
| 22:42 |
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chris |
true, unlikely to have any conflicts |
| 22:43 |
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chris |
i figure people like to see themselves added |
| 22:43 |
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gmcharlt |
of course |
| 22:43 |
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gmcharlt |
no I meant something else |
| 22:43 |
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gmcharlt |
the other day you had sent a patch for Lenora's SQL repo, and a second for Liz |
| 22:44 |
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gmcharlt |
but both were against the same startpoint |
| 22:44 |
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gmcharlt |
I'm saying that a sequence would have been fine |
| 22:44 |
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chris |
ahh i getcha |
| 22:44 |
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chris |
will do |
| 22:48 |
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chris |
ill resurrect my documentation branch and do them there so i dont get out of sequence |
| 22:50 |
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chris |
http://notatech.wordpress.com/[…]1/follow-any-day/ |
| 22:51 |
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gmcharlt |
nice |
| 22:59 |
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gmcharlt |
set 'em up, knock 'em down - xt/author/valid-templates.t now tests cleanly as of last patch I sent |
| 23:06 |
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pianohacker |
be back soon |
| 23:39 |
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chris |
awesome |
| 00:13 |
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chris |
i see you just added your library to kohausers pianohacker :) |
| 00:14 |
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pianohacker |
First in colorado |
| 00:14 |
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chris |
yup |
| 00:17 |
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pianohacker |
Thanks for the reminder |
| 00:18 |
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pianohacker |
Page is kind of humorous, "Looking at 1.2.5" |
| 00:18 |
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chris |
:) |
| 00:18 |
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chris |
i like one of hte pakistan libraries too |
| 00:18 |
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chris |
3.00.01 has been deployed on Debian and in operation -Thanks God. |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
wow i didnt know roche were using koha in australia |
| 00:28 |
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chris |
they are pretty huge! |
| 00:33 |
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chris |
http://www.roche.com/index.htm |
| 00:41 |
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pianohacker |
Oh wow, that is serious |
| 03:09 |
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brendan |
good evening #koha |
| 04:43 |
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pianohacker |
good night koha |
