Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
13:06 |
|
owen |
If you're using item-level itemtypes, is there any reason at all to specify an itemtype at the biblio level? |
13:06 |
|
owen |
Or can it be taken out of the framework? |
13:07 |
|
paul_p |
owen: it can be taken out of the framework. |
13:08 |
|
paul_p |
(hello & happy easter) |
13:08 |
|
owen |
And to you to, paul_p |
13:08 |
|
owen |
Thanks |
13:08 |
|
owen |
When are you leaving? |
13:09 |
|
owen |
:) |
13:25 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
hello |
13:25 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
does anybody know how to figure out the data stored in Zebra indexes for a record? |
13:26 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
zebra admin's manual states there is a special element set 'zebra::index' |
13:28 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
however koha's biblios database says: Diagnostic message(s) from database: |
13:28 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
[25] Specified element set name not valid for specified database -- v2 addinfo 'zebra::index' |
13:42 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipe[…]-July/001694.html |
13:42 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
answer's found! |
13:57 |
|
jwagner |
Question for folks on authorities -- the dontmerge authorities syspref references a merge_authorities.pl cron job. However, I don't find that script anywhere on the server (either 3.0 or 3.0.1 versions). Is the manual outdated for this, or are we missing a script? |
14:02 |
|
atz |
jwagner: misc/migration_tools/merge_authority.pl |
14:02 |
|
atz |
slight imprecision in docs |
14:05 |
|
jwagner |
Thanks, atz. Can you clarify when that should be run? If I'm reading the manual & syspref description correctly, if dontmerge is set to ON, things happen on the fly. If it's set to OFF, this script should be cronned (nightly? how often?). Is that correct? |
14:05 |
|
atz |
nightly should do it |
14:28 |
|
liz_nekls |
q: is there something amiss with git? I can't get search results after dec. 08 |
14:28 |
|
liz_nekls |
(web interface) |
14:28 |
|
liz_nekls |
err, can't "seem" to get results after dec 08 |
14:30 |
|
atz |
liz_nekls: not sure what you mean... got a link? |
14:45 |
|
owen |
liz_nekls: are you coming to KohaCon? |
14:46 |
|
liz_nekls |
owen: yessir, I will be there |
14:46 |
|
liz_nekls |
prepare to have your brain picked. |
14:47 |
|
owen |
I'm looking forward to it :) |
14:48 |
|
liz_nekls |
there are a lot of people I"m looking forward to seeing |
14:48 |
|
liz_nekls |
meeting, etc |
14:49 |
|
liz_nekls |
atz: hrmph, it works now, not sure what's different. I'm getting different results for things I searched for not 30 minutes ago |
14:49 |
|
liz_nekls |
(correct results) |
14:49 |
|
atz |
odd |
14:49 |
|
liz_nekls |
very |
14:49 |
|
liz_nekls |
but a welcome change in state of affairs |
14:50 |
|
liz_nekls |
;) |
14:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
+1 to that |
14:51 |
|
paul_p |
& very excited to come to TX! (i've been in OH, but Nelsonville is a not a large city !) |
14:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
liz_nekls: checked - didn't see any particular reason why gitweb should have acted up |
15:03 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
had anyone played with zebra::index element set in zebra? |
15:03 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I can't get utf-8 encoded text |
15:04 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
just dogs instead of letters |
15:04 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
like <index name="Author" type="w" seq="15">@@@@@@@@</index> |
15:05 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I'm using yaz-client connected to zebrasrv via unix socket which Koha uses for biblios |
15:07 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I worry because a SimpleSearch through opac "au=<some cyrillic surname>" gives a couple of records where <some cyrillic surname> is not mentioned at all! |
15:08 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
records were imported, using tools |
15:10 |
|
atz |
Hui_Nan_: make sure the internal MARC flag for encoding matches your expectation (probably utf8) |
15:10 |
|
atz |
that would be leader/09="a" for marc21 |
15:12 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I'm using unimarc (rusmarc) |
15:13 |
|
atz |
i think it is in the 100 field then. paul_p could confirm |
15:13 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
yep exactly |
15:13 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I have there Character Set 1 = 50-UTF-8 |
15:14 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
it is not a problem 'cause in OPAC I see correct biblio |
15:14 |
|
atz |
just in zebra? |
15:15 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
and if I ask zebra for just a record data I get marcxml/unimarc with russian |
15:15 |
|
atz |
ah, ok |
15:15 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
but if I ask for indexing data - then alas |
15:15 |
|
atz |
you just need to negotiate character set |
15:15 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
certainly I do |
15:15 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
charset UTF-8 UTF-8 UTF-8 is in my ~/.yazclientrc |
15:16 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
that's why I see cyrillic when I ask for record |
15:16 |
|
atz |
that makes sense |
15:16 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I believe that the trouble is in koha-conf.xml |
15:16 |
|
atz |
interesting! |
15:16 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I added the lines like "<retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::index" />" |
15:17 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
to access zebra::XXX element sets |
15:17 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I believe I have to specify utf-8 somewhere inside retrieval |
15:18 |
|
atz |
perhaps this is a question for the zebra listserv |
15:19 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
certainly it is |
15:19 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I'm asking in a hope that someone here has played with zebra::index %-) |
15:21 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
well, why coluld this happen? I'm importing some records, rebuild zebra's index and get within relevant records a few irrelewant ones while searching? |
15:25 |
|
liz_nekls |
gmcharlt: thanks for checking. |
15:28 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
just looking at that irrelevant record in `biblioitems.marcxml` |
15:29 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
that guy is certainly not mentioned nowhere in the record |
15:30 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
...an author by whose name I found this record |
15:30 |
|
atz |
strange... check your zebra logs to see if indexing is failing on certain records |
15:31 |
|
atz |
otherwise, (if it isn't a huge dataset) try rebuilding the index from scratch and see if it still happens |
15:32 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
[warn] Index 'XXX' not found in attset(s) |
15:32 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
that's all |
15:32 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
XXX is not /Author.+/ |
15:33 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
11 records for testing purposes |
15:34 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
rebuilding does not help |
15:34 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w |
15:34 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
is it correct? |
15:38 |
|
atz |
misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r # the r clears index first |
15:38 |
|
atz |
may want to use -x (for XML indexing too) |
15:40 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
the order of records in the results list has changed |
15:40 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
but, the same irrelevant records %-( |
15:41 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I noticed that `biblio`.`author` is empty for all the imported records |
15:41 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
Is it OK? |
15:42 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
each has rusmarc 700 and 701 fields |
15:42 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
each record |
15:43 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
well, anyway, I'm fighting with Zebra, not Koha |
15:43 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
Where Zebra finds the data on records? |
15:46 |
|
atz |
Hui_Nan_: that suggests that import is failing at some point |
15:46 |
|
atz |
before writing to biblio.author |
15:47 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
well, Zebra says there are 11 records in the biblio base, all 11 `biblioitem`.`marcsql` are correct |
15:48 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I'll wait for the answer from zebra list and then may be some code studying will help %-) |
15:55 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
[Mon Apr 13 13:44:25 2009] [error] [client 192.168.4.56] [Mon Apr 13 13:44:25 2009] stage-marc-import.pl: superlibrarian at |
15:55 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
/home/www/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 1423., referer: http://catalog.isact.ru/cgi-bi[…]ols/tools-home.pl |
15:55 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
ups... that's something strange |
15:56 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I can't see what kind of error it is |
15:56 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
authentication, well |
15:57 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
ough, there are a lot of Auth.pm errors today :-( |
15:57 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
gonna check that line tomorrow %-) |
15:58 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
atz, thanks for help~ |
15:58 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
! |
15:59 |
|
liz_nekls |
ok, here's what I'm seeing (feel free to say "git: ur doing it wrong" |
16:00 |
|
liz_nekls |
i did a search for 2940, and got no results |
16:00 |
|
liz_nekls |
but here it is: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]cf10834e45935c6f7 |
16:00 |
|
liz_nekls |
i had to look through the shortlog to find it |
16:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
a commit search of '2940" on gitweb turned it up for me |
16:02 |
|
liz_nekls |
I did the exact same thing and it didn't come up |
16:03 |
|
liz_nekls |
and I just now did it, and it worked, from the home page. one second, maybe it's the location of the search box that is different |
16:03 |
|
liz_nekls |
ok, I'm crazy I guess |
16:04 |
|
liz_nekls |
<commences muttering> |
16:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
one possibilitilty - gitweb's searches are in the context of whatever branch you're viewing |
16:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
it's possible that you may have been looking at an older commit |
16:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
and the search was relative to that |
16:07 |
|
liz_nekls |
hm that could explain why it would work on some pages and not others |
16:07 |
|
liz_nekls |
yes, that must be it |
16:08 |
|
liz_nekls |
thanks, I'll just hit the home page every time to start my searches |
16:08 |
|
liz_nekls |
to avoid that |
17:13 |
|
chris |
sick_child_the_night_before_flying_to_texas-- |
17:13 |
|
pianohacker |
Yikes. How sick? |
17:14 |
|
chris |
just a cold |
17:14 |
|
chris |
but it means im awake at 5am having just got him back to sleep |
17:15 |
|
pianohacker |
Oh, man. Sorry, hope he feels better soon |
17:16 |
|
chris |
thanks |
17:18 |
|
chris |
liz_nekls: do you have a git clone checked out locally, or do you just use gitweb for searching? |
17:22 |
|
chris |
atz: you about? |
17:23 |
|
atz |
? |
17:23 |
|
atz |
not sure i can do much for your kid from here, though :) |
17:23 |
|
chris |
heh |
17:23 |
|
chris |
http://volnitsky.com/project/git-prompt/ |
17:24 |
|
chris |
for a really over the top prompt :) |
17:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris++ |
17:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
some of that should be ported to gitweb |
17:25 |
|
atz |
wow... that's overkill... but then, he's probably russian. |
17:26 |
|
chris |
:) |
17:27 |
|
pianohacker |
One wonders what that prompt would be like after editing four template files in our directory layout |
17:28 |
|
chris |
heh |
17:28 |
|
chris |
i do like this tho |
17:29 |
|
chris |
http://gist.github.com/31631 |
17:29 |
|
chris |
adding a function to change the prompt if you are in a dirty state |
17:33 |
|
chris |
right added :) |
17:34 |
|
chris |
http://koha.pastebin.com/m3255725a |
17:35 |
|
chris |
ok it's all quiet now, im gonna try and get more sleep, cyas later |
17:35 |
|
pianohacker |
Good night |
20:39 |
|
liz_nekls |
chris: wow, I totally missed your question. I use the gitweb, we are hosted. It's a long story. |
20:40 |
|
liz_nekls |
chris: I can totally relate to the 5am child wakies |
20:40 |
|
liz_nekls |
totally sucks, for all involved |
21:00 |
|
chris |
yep, and now im awake again :) but this time voluntarily |
21:00 |
|
chris |
liz_nekls: ahh in that case my git log --grep="2940" command won't help you :) |
22:00 |
|
liz_nekls |
2 more days to kohacon! Woo! Ttyl! |
22:00 |
|
pianohacker |
Bye, see you there |
23:06 |
|
atz |
bad timing between kohacon and taxes :( |
23:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
atz: incentive to do them (slightly) earlier? |
23:09 |
|
atz |
meh. incentive, inschmentive. |
23:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
well, there's always the option of an extension - form to request one is much shorter :) |
23:10 |
|
atz |
true |
23:12 |
|
pianohacker |
Do we have a smokebot running? There's a lot of empty reports on smolder |
23:14 |
|
gmcharlt |
there's a cronjob - I'll check it tomorrow |
23:15 |
|
pianohacker |
Had completely forgotten about smolder 'till I saw the newsfeed in #kohanews |
23:17 |
|
pianohacker |
bye |
01:17 |
|
atz |
not too bad... taxes done in 2 hours |
03:53 |
|
Amit |
hi chris, mason, brendan |
04:08 |
|
brendan |
Heya Amit |
04:08 |
|
brendan |
how's things |
04:08 |
|
Amit |
everything is fine |
04:08 |
|
Amit |
preparing for mumbai seminar |
04:08 |
|
brendan |
cool |
04:08 |
|
brendan |
;) |
04:09 |
|
brendan |
I'm signing off and will be back next week... have a good week |
04:10 |
|
Amit |
same to u |
07:09 |
|
Amit |
hi greenmang0 |
07:20 |
|
hdl_laptop |
matts: tu es sur biblibre ? |
07:20 |
|
hdl_laptop |
Je ne vois personne |
07:20 |
|
matts |
yep |
07:30 |
|
Amit |
hi kf |
07:30 |
|
Amit |
hi hdl |
07:30 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi all |
07:30 |
|
kf |
good morning all |
07:48 |
|
Amit |
hi nicomo |
07:49 |
|
nicomo |
hi Amit |
08:44 |
|
k3rn3l |
hi |
08:45 |
|
mason |
heya kernel |
08:53 |
|
k3rn3l |
I would like to know a little more about how koha was programmed, is there a good place to learn this? |
08:53 |
|
Amit |
heya mason |
08:53 |
|
mason |
hey amit |
08:54 |
|
Amit |
mason: have u checked matching rule in koha 3.01 version |
08:58 |
|
mason |
kernel: http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]6a53f9828238c6e05 |
08:58 |
|
mason |
thats a good history of koha's development, for you |
08:58 |
|
mason |
amit, for staged-importing? |
08:58 |
|
Amit |
yes |
08:59 |
|
mason |
hmm, yes - a little |
08:59 |
|
Amit |
there is matching rule problem with issn |
09:00 |
|
mason |
i have had success with isbn and issn matching |
09:00 |
|
Amit |
in my case there is matching problem with issn |
09:01 |
|
Amit |
i m also planning to add matching in ./bulkmarcimport.pl |
09:02 |
|
mason |
ah, that would be handy |
09:02 |
|
hdl_laptop |
k3rn3l: : KohaCon could be a good place too. |
09:02 |
|
mason |
hi hdl |
09:02 |
|
hdl_laptop |
Amit: how woul you do this ? |
09:03 |
|
Amit |
no i have written some code last night but not working |
09:03 |
|
mason |
kernel: and taking a look at koha src-code too ;) |
09:04 |
|
Amit |
hdl: by hardcode of MARC tag one tag at a time |
09:04 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I have already patched bulkmarcimport for that |
09:04 |
|
hdl_laptop |
And it also adds importing authorities. |
09:04 |
|
Amit |
k |
09:04 |
|
Amit |
have u any url |
09:04 |
|
mason |
i have modified bulkimarcimport.pl, addbib, addbibitems, additems to import new marc records with 999$ ids |
09:05 |
|
mason |
999$ has bib, bibitem and item numbers... |
09:05 |
|
hdl_laptop |
Amit: no url but can send patch |
09:05 |
|
Amit |
u can send me if possible |
09:06 |
|
hdl_laptop |
mason: huh.... seems quite dangerous to do so. |
09:06 |
|
hdl_laptop |
it it is hardcoded. |
09:06 |
|
Amit |
yes |
09:06 |
|
hdl_laptop |
will do |
09:06 |
|
mason |
yes, a bit dangerous.... but needed for a tricky 2.2 -> 3.0 upgrade |
09:07 |
|
hdl_laptop |
mmmm... You could have done it with kohafield linking |
09:07 |
|
hdl_laptop |
i think |
09:08 |
|
mason |
hmm, i dont think so , for this specific upgrade |
09:10 |
|
mason |
but.. my dangerous patch is only used for the initial marc-import only - then the codebase is switched back, all is happy again |
09:51 |
|
Amit |
hdl : this patch http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]ember/002309.html |
09:57 |
|
hdl_laptop |
no |
09:58 |
|
Amit |
k |
09:58 |
|
hdl_laptop |
not sent on list at the moment |
10:45 |
|
k3rn3l |
is there any framework (mvc) behind koha? |
11:20 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
hello |
11:21 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
how could I search for records where author is not Smith? |
11:21 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
not au:Smith? |
11:21 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
through OPAC |
11:53 |
|
hdl_laptop |
mmmm... |
11:54 |
|
hdl_laptop |
in the advanced tab, you can find boolean operators iirc. |