| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:00 |
|
Amit |
hi greenmang0 |
| 11:00 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: |
| 11:01 |
|
Amit |
greenmang0 this is your www.kohaindia.org site |
| 11:02 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: yeah |
| 11:08 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: how did you come to know? |
| 11:09 |
|
Amit |
from LIS forum |
| 11:10 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: hmm |
| 11:11 |
|
Amit |
hmm ? |
| 11:13 |
|
Amit |
what hmm? |
| 11:15 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: so Mr. Savitra got to know about the site... |
| 11:15 |
|
anasha |
hmm = Indicating thinking |
| 11:25 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: |
| 11:25 |
|
greenmang0 |
you there? |
| 11:26 |
|
Amit |
yes |
| 11:26 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: you didn't reply... |
| 11:27 |
|
Amit |
means |
| 11:28 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: nothing |
| 11:48 |
|
jwagner |
In the items table, it looks like the more_subfields_xml field is used for non-public notes. Is that correct? Is it used for anything else? |
| 12:15 |
|
paul_p |
jwagner: in UNIMARC, yes, it's heavily used ! |
| 12:25 |
|
jwagner |
We're not Unimarc, but it does have entries. They're a pain when I'm trying to export from the item table. Guess I'll have to put up with it, sigh :-( |
| 12:29 |
|
nahuel |
kados, are you there ? |
| 12:30 |
|
nahuel |
or gmcharlt ? |
| 12:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi nahuel |
| 12:31 |
|
nahuel |
hi galen, what's up ? |
| 12:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
not much |
| 12:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
how are you? |
| 12:31 |
|
nahuel |
fine, but find a buggous patch from owen you pushed on 3.0.x in august |
| 12:32 |
|
nahuel |
on admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl |
| 12:32 |
|
nahuel |
(the last one) |
| 12:33 |
|
nahuel |
but I don't really know what this patch should do |
| 12:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
appears to fix XHTML validation errors |
| 12:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
what is the bug? |
| 12:36 |
|
nahuel |
this patch change the use of CGI::checkbox, etc... to set -name="something" and -id="something$i" |
| 12:37 |
|
nahuel |
but when you "submit" a form the values are passed using the "key" from name |
| 12:37 |
|
nahuel |
and not from the id |
| 12:37 |
|
nahuel |
so you cannot validate the data, and your changes do not have any effect |
| 12:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
hmm |
| 12:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl and admin/marctagstructure.pl are the only places that use CGI::checkbox |
| 12:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
so a patch to remove that and just build the checkboxes in the templates |
| 12:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
would be good |
| 12:39 |
|
nahuel |
hmmm |
| 12:39 |
|
nahuel |
all koha should use CGI::checkbox & cie amha :) |
| 12:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
"cie amha"? |
| 12:40 |
|
nahuel |
haha |
| 12:40 |
|
nahuel |
amha = as my humble opinion |
| 12:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
ah |
| 12:41 |
|
nahuel |
checkbox & company |
| 12:41 |
|
nahuel |
like checkbox and others |
| 12:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
right |
| 12:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
I disagree - knowledge of HTML should reside in the templates, as much as possible |
| 12:43 |
|
gmcharlt |
using CGI::checkbox means that you're forced to change Perl code to make an interface change |
| 12:43 |
|
nahuel |
cgi::checkbox is used only to generate forms, not display |
| 12:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
but a form is part of the display |
| 12:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
see http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=766 for another example |
| 12:48 |
|
nahuel |
well, i think it's lesser flexibility for more quality... |
| 13:47 |
|
atz |
yeah, "only generating forms" in CGI would be basically all of every page |
| 13:53 |
|
atz |
crap... is it "Tornado Awareness Month" again?... cause the sirens are all going off |
| 14:08 |
|
nahuel |
what's "Tornado Awareness Month" ? |
| 14:09 |
|
atz |
i don't know, but the last time I was surprised to hear the alarms going off at the wrong time... it was because of some "homeland security tornado awareness month" |
| 14:10 |
|
atz |
silly government idea: let's change the time of the siren test so that people think it's not a test, in order to provide more awareness. lame. |
| 14:10 |
|
nahuel |
ah |
| 14:10 |
|
nahuel |
else the next time is a REAL alert, they won't be surprised |
| 16:04 |
|
atz |
does anybody remember a command-line script for running a Koha report by ID#? |
| 16:04 |
|
atz |
i swear I saw one before |
| 16:05 |
|
atz |
... can't find it now though |
| 16:17 |
|
hdl_laptop |
atz: it would really be fine to have such a script. But I dont remember any like that. |
| 16:18 |
|
hdl_laptop |
atz: if reports are done the clever way, it should not be too difficult to get one to work. |
| 16:18 |
|
hdl_laptop |
atz: and maybe curl could be a good solution too. |
| 16:19 |
|
jwagner |
The report scheduler doesn't work (sigh), but I've seen how it tries to structure a cron -- shouldn't be hard to extrapolate from that. It's doing the same thing, trying to run a report by ID #. |
| 16:21 |
|
jwagner |
Looking back at my notes, it is calling a report like this: intranet/cgi-bin/tools/runreport.pl 184 text jwagner ptfs.com |
| 17:04 |
|
atz |
oh... that's actually in cgi-bin? that's dumb |
| 17:05 |
|
atz |
sitting on the web interface with NO SECURITY. |
| 17:12 |
|
atz |
jwagner: thx for finding that |
| 17:19 |
|
jwagner |
Belated you're welcome. If you do find a better place/way of running saved reports, let me know. That's something I've been meaning to look at, but it's at the bottom of the list right now. |
| 17:23 |
|
hdl_laptop |
atz: We often use new CGI in the code. |
| 17:23 |
|
hdl_laptop |
atz: it doenot look like a good practice. |
| 17:23 |
|
atz |
hdl_laptop: why not? |
| 17:23 |
|
hdl_laptop |
atz: john spent ages on a problem of file import. |
| 17:24 |
|
atz |
yep, that's the only problem area |
| 17:24 |
|
atz |
because of weird timing issues in CFI |
| 17:24 |
|
atz |
*CGI |
| 17:24 |
|
hdl_laptop |
And he realized that CGI environment was overwritten |
| 17:24 |
|
atz |
but we can't get around it, since we require $query as an argument to get_template... |
| 17:24 |
|
hdl_laptop |
when loading C4::Auth |
| 17:26 |
|
atz |
the "upload_hooks" part of CGI is not really well-structured for common use |
| 17:26 |
|
atz |
we have also wasted a lot of time on that problem |
| 17:28 |
|
hdl_laptop |
can't we split get_template_and_user into get_template on the one hand and check_auth on the other hand and pass not the whole query but only the userid/password .... Security problem ?? |
| 17:30 |
|
atz |
hdl_laptop: ummm... yeah! |
| 17:30 |
|
atz |
long overdue. |
| 17:31 |
|
atz |
the Auth code is written badly, and copied even worse |
| 17:31 |
|
atz |
the problem is that we expect Auth to intercede when auth fails, by sending the user to the login page |
| 17:32 |
|
atz |
so it gets involved in all this other stuff |
| 17:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
well, not having to make each script have to do that itself is also desirable |
| 17:32 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: I agree. |
| 17:33 |
|
atz |
gmcharlt: true, if an atomic version of auth check was really available |
| 17:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
making each CGI script a subclass of a common Koha view class would help |
| 17:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
so you can separate authorization and template handling |
| 17:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
but get unified handling from the POV of each script |
| 17:33 |
|
atz |
that would be nice |
| 17:34 |
|
hdl_laptop |
nice idea. |
| 17:35 |
|
hdl_laptop |
but scarce time and not reaaly goodtime to implement. |
| 17:35 |
|
hdl_laptop |
But I think we could eventually come to that. |
| 17:36 |
|
hdl_laptop |
Since, CAS, SHIBBOLETH, openID, NTLM supports are likely to be asked soon. |
| 17:39 |
|
gmcharlt |
+ opensso |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 19:50 |
|
cait |
morning chris |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
apparently some phd student is interviewing me at 10 |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
which is in an hour .. i wonder what its about |
| 19:52 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: are you around? |
| 19:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: yes |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
did chris catalfo send some patches for the librarything+koha integration? |
| 19:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
no |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
that will be why i couldnt find them then |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
just checking i hadnt missed something |
| 19:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
I've asked him about it |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 19:54 |
|
cait |
my colleagues got very excited today, when I showed them the test site |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
yes I think a lot of people would be quite excited to try it |
| 03:12 |
|
Amit |
hi chris, mason, brendan |
| 03:13 |
|
Amit |
chris: what about second test nz vs india |
| 03:16 |
|
Amit |
nz is in good position |
| 03:16 |
|
chris |
yeah bad start, but recovering well |
| 03:18 |
|
mason |
heya guys, is the game available via the net? |
| 03:19 |
|
Amit |
yes |
| 03:20 |
|
Amit |
good partnership for 4th wicket |
| 03:20 |
|
Amit |
mason: http://www.zapak.com/cricketsc[…]5kCFRMupAod9hnBuQ |
| 03:22 |
|
Amit |
u have any link? |
| 03:23 |
|
mason |
its a js windows :/ |
| 03:23 |
|
mason |
Live Animation Quick Scorecard Full Scorecard Highlights Graphs Squads REFRESH |
| 03:23 |
|
Amit |
k |
| 03:23 |
|
mason |
top left ;) |
| 03:24 |
|
Amit |
Jesse Ryder is also for century |
| 03:24 |
|
Amit |
brendan: have u seen match |
| 03:26 |
|
brendan |
taking a look right now Amit |
| 03:28 |
|
brendan |
I like the feed - pretty cool |
| 03:28 |
|
brendan |
I'll have to remember that one |
| 03:28 |
|
Amit |
r u watching a cricket match in TV |
| 03:28 |
|
Amit |
? |
| 03:30 |
|
chris |
cricket.org |
| 03:32 |
|
Amit |
chris: dhoni is not playing in 2nd test |
| 03:32 |
|
brendan |
not watching but listening... |
| 03:33 |
|
Amit |
ok |
| 03:35 |
|
brendan |
can't find a good link to watch - |
| 03:38 |
|
Amit |
http://www.zapak.com/cricketsc[…]5kCFRMupAod9hnBuQ |
| 03:38 |
|
Amit |
this is good |
| 03:39 |
|
brendan |
cool -- I've been followed |
| 04:02 |
|
Amit |
chris: finally Ross Taylor out |
| 07:32 |
|
chris |
evening |
| 07:33 |
|
osslabs |
hi chris |
| 07:52 |
|
brendan |
heya chris osslabs |
| 07:52 |
|
brendan |
goodnight Amit |
| 07:52 |
|
Amit |
good night brendan |
| 08:16 |
|
Kivutar |
hello all |
| 08:16 |
|
chris |
hi Kivutar |
| 08:48 |
|
Amit |
hi kf |
| 08:49 |
|
kf |
hi Amit |
