| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:54 |
|
owen |
Hi #koha. Looking at Bug 2434, http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2434 |
| 12:54 |
|
owen |
Is RSS notification also not working? |
| 13:12 |
|
owen |
gmcharlt, maybe you know this |
| 13:13 |
|
owen |
...Looking at Bug 2434, http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2434 |
| 13:13 |
|
owen |
Is RSS notification also not working? |
| 13:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
RSS for notifications hasn't been implemented yet |
| 13:14 |
|
owen |
So hiding that column in the template would be a sensible thing to do |
| 13:14 |
|
gmcharlt |
yes |
| 13:27 |
|
owen |
gmcharlt, do you have time for a question about holds? |
| 13:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
sure |
| 13:28 |
|
owen |
At NPL we've been running into a problem since our switch to 3.0. One branch will check in an item and find a hold for a patron. They'll flag it with a hold slip and send it to its destination branch |
| 13:28 |
|
owen |
When the destination branch receives it, they check it in and the hold message that pops up has another patron's info |
| 13:29 |
|
owen |
One obvious explanation is that the first branch didn't confirm the hold, I suppose |
| 13:30 |
|
owen |
I guess I'm concerned that the holds queue process is doing something weird here |
| 13:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
what's the exact version you're running? |
| 13:32 |
|
owen |
"About Koha" reports 3.01.00.009 |
| 13:33 |
|
owen |
Hi kados |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
g'morning all |
| 13:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
it did |
| 13:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: can you test to see if it makes a difference whether the holds are confirmed or not? |
| 13:39 |
|
owen |
Yeah. I've only gotten sporadic reports, so I'll have to ask folks to be more vigilant. |
| 13:39 |
|
owen |
What were the Geauga holds improvements? |
| 13:40 |
|
kados |
owen: in a phrase: multi-location hold targeting ;-) ... the previous NPL script only targeted one item per title even if there were multiple holds on a given title |
| 13:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
i.e., the current holds queue process |
| 13:41 |
|
owen |
Oh, right. Okay |
| 14:24 |
|
pianohacker |
hola gmcharlt |
| 14:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi pianohacker |
| 16:37 |
|
owen |
Hi liz_nekls |
| 18:48 |
|
imp |
Warning: prerequisite GD 2.39 not found. We have 2.35. |
| 18:48 |
|
imp |
so i have to use 2.1 from their cvs? |
| 18:48 |
|
imp |
(there is no gd 2.0.39 release on libgd.org) |
| 18:50 |
|
owen |
What about this? http://search.cpan.org/dist/GD/ |
| 18:50 |
|
imp |
owen: ah, thx :) |
| 19:28 |
|
pianohacker |
Is there anyone around who is familiar with the logic behind marc_subfield_structure.hidden? I see some patterns in how it can be interpreted, but building it automatically from a given set of constraints (visibility in opac, staff and editor and collapsed when empty) seems like it would require a hashref |
| 19:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
I believe it was intended to act as a (signed) bitmask |
| 19:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
how's that cloning coming along, paul? |
| 19:44 |
|
paul_p2 |
hi gmcharlt |
| 19:44 |
|
paul_p2 |
coming from some tests on my home connexion |
| 19:44 |
|
paul_p2 |
(trying to have "CPL" working) |
| 19:44 |
|
owen |
Cloning is all well and good, but you still have to feed and clothe the clones. |
| 19:45 |
|
paul_p2 |
(dunno the french term ;-) ) |
| 19:47 |
|
paul_p |
clone 2 goes to limbo... |
| 20:08 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 20:10 |
|
owen |
Hi chris |
| 20:27 |
|
slef |
Hi all. Anyone know what a zebrasrv exit code of 10 means? |
| 20:28 |
|
slef |
(it's not in the man page) |
| 20:28 |
|
chris |
not me |
| 20:30 |
|
slef |
very strange. Nothing in the error log either. |
| 20:31 |
|
slef |
Is the irc log searching webpage working for anyone else? |
| 20:32 |
|
owen |
It's working for me slef |
| 20:33 |
|
slef |
is for me now... strange |
| 20:33 |
|
slef |
thanks owen |
| 21:25 |
|
pianohacker |
'allo chris. Do you know anything about marc_sub_struct.hidden ? |
| 22:27 |
|
ron |
Mornin'. Is there someone here with whom I can discuss commercial (ie; paid) support for Koha? |
| 22:29 |
|
atz |
ron: the place to start is http://koha.org/support/pay.html |
| 22:29 |
|
ron |
atz: uh, yeah. heh |
| 22:29 |
|
atz |
and the vendors tend to be pretty cool about not out-pitching each other here on channel |
| 22:30 |
|
ron |
yep |
| 22:30 |
|
ron |
:) |
| 22:30 |
|
ron |
what I was hoping for is someone who would maintain debs for ubuntu |
| 22:31 |
|
ron |
presumably this has been raised a number of times previously? |
| 22:31 |
|
atz |
ron: actually, that's the first i've heard of somebody willing to pay to make it happen |
| 22:31 |
|
ron |
oh... startegicdata.com.au. heh, I know those guys |
| 22:32 |
|
atz |
vincent danjean was working on a debian package |
| 22:32 |
|
ron |
atxmate, I've got a government client who's willing to pay for it |
| 22:32 |
|
ron |
er... atx: mate... |
| 22:32 |
|
ron |
bleh. fat fingers |
| 22:32 |
|
atz |
haven't heard from vincent in months though |
| 22:32 |
|
atz |
i'm sure it would make a lot of ppl happy though! |
| 22:33 |
|
pianohacker |
The open source world needs something like a code-debt collections agency |
| 22:34 |
|
pianohacker |
Track down lazy contributors and break a few fingers |
| 22:34 |
|
atz |
ron: that's actually a great idea to make Koha *very readily* adoptable |
| 22:39 |
|
pianohacker |
Are there any other webapp packages out there for ubuntu whose installation package we could emulate? |
| 22:39 |
|
atz |
ubuntu can install debian debs right? |
| 22:39 |
|
atz |
or does it need something special to do that? |
| 22:40 |
|
ron |
atz: sorry, was on the phone with strategicdata |
| 22:40 |
|
ron |
ok, ubuntu installs debs, although I don't know if it is happy with *debian* debs |
| 22:41 |
|
ron |
if you guys would deb this (for ubuntu, especially) then yes you'd increase the uptake |
| 22:42 |
|
ron |
we've installed a couple of servers and a bunch of desktops (all running linux) in a gov't facility. they want koha, but we need to be able to provide security updates etc. the rest of the environment is all managed by apt-get/dpkg/etc. My strong preference is to not break this discipline |
| 22:44 |
|
ron |
hmm... phone again |
| 23:16 |
|
bob |
hi all |
| 23:16 |
|
bob |
is there a koha.deb type package being developed? |
| 23:17 |
|
bob |
one where all the dependencies are included? |
| 23:22 |
|
ron |
heh. this is what we were just now discussing |
| 23:22 |
|
ron |
bob: what's your interest? |
| 23:23 |
|
ron |
oh |
| 23:23 |
|
ron |
of course |
| 23:23 |
|
ron |
bob, @katipo |
| 23:23 |
|
bob |
hi |
| 23:23 |
|
ron |
howdy |
| 23:23 |
|
ron |
I beat you to the punch, it seems. :) |
| 23:24 |
|
bob |
i think i read on lists that there was talk of having a all encompasing .deb package |
| 23:24 |
|
ron |
bob: I wonder if it is necessary to make an Ubuntu-specific package, or if a Debian package would suffice |
| 23:24 |
|
bob |
and was wondering how advanced along the idea was |
| 23:24 |
|
ron |
yeah, someone said earlier that it has been looked into previously. |
| 23:24 |
|
ron |
hang on, chking log |
| 23:24 |
|
ron |
09:32 < atz> vincent danjean was working on a debian package |
| 23:25 |
|
ron |
there you go |
| 23:25 |
|
bob |
cool |
| 23:26 |
|
bob |
so you'd be perfering a ubuntu-centric one right? |
| 23:26 |
|
chris |
i wouldnt |
| 23:26 |
|
bob |
hi chris |
| 23:26 |
|
ron |
not necessarily |
| 23:27 |
|
ron |
just one that works on 8.04 LTS |
| 23:27 |
|
chris |
plus ubuntu is debian, with non-free stuff added to |
| 23:27 |
|
ron |
actually, I'd prefer tahth it was more generic |
| 23:27 |
|
ron |
more generic = more uptake, more support, etc |
| 23:28 |
|
chris |
if you put it in debian, it will end up in ubuntu, plus vincent danjeans is a debian developer |
| 23:28 |
|
ron |
ahh, neat |
| 23:28 |
|
chris |
so it would actually make it into the distro |
| 23:28 |
|
bob |
sweet |
| 23:29 |
|
pianohacker |
brb, remodeling |
| 23:29 |
|
chris |
id recommend getting in touch with him and asking him what he needs to finish it off |
| 23:29 |
|
bob |
chris: any idea how far along vincent is with the koha .deb package? |
| 23:29 |
|
bob |
good idea |
| 23:30 |
|
ron |
was he doing it for a client, or for the community? |
| 23:31 |
|
ron |
either way, we're quite willing to pay for his efforts - especially if he can get it into the deb repos |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
for the community |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
http://git.debian.org/?p=colla[…]oha.git;a=summary |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
is his repo, drop him a line :) |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
his email address will be in the koha archives somewhere |
| 23:31 |
|
ron |
will do. thx |
| 23:35 |
|
imp |
is it possible to use koha without apache? (something like lighttpd) |
| 23:35 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 23:35 |
|
chris |
or nginx |
| 23:35 |
|
chris |
or IIS if you are a nutjob :) |
| 23:36 |
|
imp |
what's about monkeyd? |
| 23:36 |
|
chris |
there is currently nothing apache specific with koha, just that the installer will make a config file for you that works with apache |
| 23:37 |
|
chris |
if your webserver can run cgi's you can use it with koha |
| 23:38 |
|
ron |
can Koha import data from a csv file? |
| 23:38 |
|
chris |
what sort of data? |
| 23:38 |
|
ron |
catalogue |
| 23:38 |
|
chris |
nope |
| 23:38 |
|
ron |
bugga |
| 23:38 |
|
chris |
it can import borrower data tho |
| 23:39 |
|
chris |
marcedit is your friend ron |
| 23:39 |
|
chris |
to convert csv to marc, then koha can import the mar |
| 23:39 |
|
chris |
c |
| 23:39 |
|
chris |
i think krishnan did a good tutorial let me look |
| 23:40 |
|
ron |
found a video |
| 23:40 |
|
ron |
http://oregonstate.edu/~reeset[…]it/html/index.php |
| 23:42 |
|
chris |
ah no it was another of the Indian developers |
| 23:42 |
|
chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ha_using_marcedit |
| 00:16 |
|
Jo |
Si : are you about |
| 00:16 |
|
slef |
if a non-maintainer wants to make a koha.deb, I'm a debian developer so could sponsor the upload if vincent doesn't |
| 00:17 |
|
slef |
I just have no-one willing to pay me to make it happen and a life full of paid work. |
| 00:19 |
|
chris |
there ya go, another option ron :) |
| 00:19 |
|
chris |
there are also a couple of dd's at my work .. so i think the sticking point is getting the packages built |
| 00:20 |
|
slef |
there's no webapp policy - there's an old discussion after I asked how to do it on debian-perl, but it'll be a bit off into the unknown |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
i built a package from vincents repo, and it mostly worked |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
i think it just needs that last 20% that takes 80% of the time |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 00:25 |
|
ron |
slef: howdy |
| 00:36 |
|
slef |
ron: hello. I'm asleep at the console. |
| 00:37 |
|
ron |
slef: seems I am too |
| 00:37 |
|
ron |
;-) |
| 00:37 |
|
ron |
not ath I've got any excuse, at 11:30am. heh |
| 00:37 |
|
ron |
s/ath/that/ |
| 00:37 |
|
ron |
slef: do you have a background in managing debs in the longer term? |
| 00:39 |
|
slef |
ron: I've been a DD for a few years and a debian sysadmin for longer, if that's what you mean. |
| 00:40 |
|
ron |
ok |
| 00:41 |
|
ron |
slef: I'll fill you in via email |
| 00:44 |
|
slef |
ok. night all |
| 00:45 |
|
ron |
ciao |
| 03:14 |
|
Amit |
hi koha |
| 03:14 |
|
Amit |
hi mason, si |
| 03:14 |
|
mason |
heya amit |
| 03:14 |
|
Amit |
india win |
| 03:15 |
|
mason |
i hope your birthday and holiday was nice :) |
| 03:15 |
|
Amit |
yes |
| 03:15 |
|
Amit |
yesterday is holi |
| 03:15 |
|
Amit |
in india |
| 03:15 |
|
mason |
india are too good at cricket, for NZ |
| 03:16 |
|
Amit |
yes |
| 03:16 |
|
Amit |
have u seen sehwag batting |
| 03:16 |
|
mason |
no, but i have heard a discussion from NZ cricket team captain |
| 03:17 |
|
Amit |
he is the cracking |
| 03:17 |
|
mason |
he says 'indian team are too strong for us' |
| 03:17 |
|
Amit |
yes |
| 03:17 |
|
mason |
sewag hit many 6's ? |
| 03:17 |
|
Amit |
this is the first series india win in NZ |
| 03:18 |
|
mason |
aah, i did not know |
| 03:18 |
|
Amit |
after 33 year |
| 03:18 |
|
mason |
how many times have india played in NZ? |
| 03:19 |
|
Amit |
5 times ODI series |
| 03:19 |
|
Amit |
3 NZ win 2 draw |
| 03:19 |
|
Amit |
this is first time india win series in NZ |
| 03:19 |
|
Amit |
si? |
| 03:20 |
|
Amit |
hi chris |
| 03:20 |
|
chris |
hi amit |
| 03:21 |
|
Amit |
what about sehwag batting chris |
| 03:23 |
|
chris |
he is batting very well, but we are also making it very easy for him |
| 03:24 |
|
mason |
heh |
| 03:24 |
|
chris |
the pitches are too good for batsmen |
| 03:24 |
|
chris |
thats why we usually won in the past |
| 03:24 |
|
chris |
green wickets |
| 03:24 |
|
mason |
ahhhh, chris has 'The Knowledge' |
| 03:25 |
|
Amit |
y |
| 03:26 |
|
mason |
i dont have a TV, so i will have to watch the best sehwag hits online |
| 04:58 |
|
brendan |
good night #koha |
| 04:58 |
|
brendan |
long day here... |
| 05:19 |
|
chris |
night brendan |
| 06:49 |
|
chris |
hey Elwell |
| 06:50 |
|
Amit |
hi elwell |
| 07:00 |
|
chris |
hi nicomo |
| 07:00 |
|
nicomo |
morning/evening Chris |
| 07:01 |
|
nicomo |
is stuff.nz doing well? |
| 07:08 |
|
chris |
yep, 3.47 terrabytes |
| 07:08 |
|
chris |
in a week |
| 07:09 |
|
Elwell |
How expensive is bandwidth in NZ? |
| 07:10 |
|
chris |
depends where you live |
| 07:10 |
|
Elwell |
ok, hosting bandwith then |
| 07:10 |
|
Elwell |
is there any competetion for colos / telcos? |
| 07:10 |
|
chris |
yeah tons |
| 07:11 |
|
chris |
its international transit that is the expensive bit |
| 07:11 |
|
Elwell |
ah cool. yeah. I was a bit shocked when I applied for a job at U.canterbury and they said you paid for bandwith |
| 07:11 |
|
chris |
but there are 4 companies who provide that, there are tons of isps that do colo etc ... but they all have to buy transit from one of those 4 |
| 07:12 |
|
Elwell |
(stoppy sods didn't even shortlist me. pah. |
| 07:12 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 07:12 |
|
chris |
what was the job? |
| 07:12 |
|
Elwell |
sysadmin |
| 07:12 |
|
chris |
christchurch is weird anyway |
| 07:13 |
|
Elwell |
wanted to get into the HPC kit (I was sysadmin for the 1st bluegene in europe) but they didn't have any spaces |
| 07:30 |
|
chris |
http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]ingle_borrower.pl |
| 07:31 |
|
chris |
it even works |
| 07:32 |
|
chris |
<firstname>Chris</firstname><cardnumber>1</cardnumber><borrowernumber>1</borrowernumber><surname>Cormack</surname> at rest/borrowers/single_borrower.pl line 12. |
| 07:58 |
|
chris |
hi paul |
| 07:59 |
|
paul_p |
hi chris |
| 08:18 |
|
slef |
morning |
| 08:18 |
|
chris |
heya slef |
| 08:46 |
|
chris |
is nahuel in denmark? |
| 08:48 |
|
nahuel |
chris, yes i am :)Ã |
| 08:48 |
|
chris |
cool :) |
| 08:48 |
|
chris |
its somewhere ive always wanted to visit |
| 08:49 |
|
paul_p |
chris: nahuel & hdl are at indexdata offices, for 2 days of training on zebra |
| 08:50 |
|
chris |
ohhh very cool |
| 08:50 |
|
chris |
i will have lots of questions for nahuel at the developer conference :) |
| 08:50 |
|
nahuel |
chris, cool |
| 08:50 |
|
nahuel |
:) |
| 08:50 |
|
nahuel |
well i'm away |
| 08:50 |
|
nahuel |
talking with indexdata |
| 08:53 |
|
Amit |
hi nahuel |
| 09:15 |
|
chris |
heya kf |
| 09:17 |
|
kf |
heya chris :) |
| 09:19 |
|
chris |
wie geht es dir? |
| 09:20 |
|
kf |
gut, danke |
| 09:20 |
|
kf |
fine, thx ;) learning german, chris? |
| 09:20 |
|
kf |
und dir? |
| 09:21 |
|
chris |
how do you say also? |
| 09:21 |
|
paul_p |
chris: kivutar is jean-andre |
| 09:21 |
|
Kivutar |
hi |
| 09:21 |
|
chris |
hi Kivutar :) |
| 09:21 |
|
Kivutar |
:) |
| 09:22 |
|
kf |
i think: auch |
| 09:22 |
|
kf |
P1: wie geht es dir? P2: danke gut. und dir? P1: mir auch. |
| 09:22 |
|
chris |
ahh :) |
| 09:22 |
|
chris |
thanks |
| 09:22 |
|
Kivutar |
chris: so you're coding webservices for koha too? |
| 09:22 |
|
chris |
not really, just playing around |
| 09:23 |
|
Kivutar |
ok |
| 09:23 |
|
kf |
:) |
| 09:23 |
|
chris |
im playing with the caching framework |
| 09:23 |
|
chris |
and using webservices as a good way to test |
| 09:23 |
|
kf |
can someone explain how more_subfields_xml is supposed to work? |
| 09:23 |
|
Kivutar |
oh i see |
| 09:23 |
|
chris |
http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]lib/Koha;hb=cache |
| 09:23 |
|
chris |
and |
| 09:24 |
|
chris |
http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]ingle_borrower.pl |
| 09:24 |
|
kf |
i tried to use it for our accession numbery by linking it to 952$i |
| 09:24 |
|
chris |
if they are any use to them, feel free to use/fix :) |
| 09:24 |
|
chris |
kf: ill have a look and no that was all the german i remember from when we had a swiss exchange student living with us :) |
| 09:25 |
|
Kivutar |
thanks chris |
| 09:26 |
|
Koha |
Hi all, are there any LDAP guru's around ATM? |
| 09:26 |
|
kf |
just ask, when you want to learn more :) |
| 09:27 |
|
Amit |
hi kf |
| 09:27 |
|
kf |
hi amit |
| 09:28 |
|
chris |
kf: will do :) |
| 09:28 |
|
Koha |
Anyone? Trouble creating a staff user with LDAP switched on, no access. Denied. |
| 09:28 |
|
chris |
hmm im not sure what that column is for |
| 09:29 |
|
kf |
chris: you can train with German Koha version :) |
| 09:29 |
|
kf |
chris: i think it changed its behaviour lately - we need a additional field for german accession numbers (additional to barcode). someone suggested using that column |
| 09:30 |
|
kf |
but now, when i save something like "2009/123" i get an xml-output, when editing the item the next time |
| 09:31 |
|
kf |
is it necessary to link all item fields to columns in item? |
| 09:35 |
|
chris |
ahh yeah i think stuff in there is stored as xml, might be best to ask on the koha-devel list |
| 09:35 |
|
chris |
i search the recent patches cant see any thing |
| 09:35 |
|
kf |
ok |
| 09:35 |
|
kf |
thx chris |
| 09:36 |
|
kf |
i reconfigured 952$i using no items column |
| 09:36 |
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kf |
now i can save |
| 09:36 |
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kf |
but im not sure if this will have any disadvantages |
| 09:36 |
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chris |
what is 952i? |
| 09:37 |
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kf |
its not used now, i want to use it for import of accession numbers |
| 09:38 |
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chris |
ahh ok |
| 09:40 |
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chris |
you probably dont need to map it at all |
| 09:40 |
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chris |
ie you can store stuff in marc fields and subfields that arent mapped to a field in items or biblio etc |
| 09:41 |
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chris |
and then just edit the framework to make them show in the edit screens |
| 09:41 |
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chris |
and if you use xslt you can make them show in the search results too |
| 09:42 |
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kf |
ah |
| 09:42 |
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kf |
nice to know that |
| 09:42 |
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kf |
i thought about a plugin similar to barcode.pl |
| 09:42 |
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kf |
there is already the option in barcode to use annual numbers like 2008/1 |
| 09:43 |
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kf |
i think this may be perhaps a problem |
| 09:47 |
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chris |
hmm yeah i think i remember atz saying it was buggy |
| 09:51 |
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imp |
errrm.... why does any language contain it's own images? a shared folder for the images would be great |
| 09:57 |
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chris |
send a patch |
| 09:57 |
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chris |
:-) |
| 10:00 |
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imp |
always the same answer ;P |
| 10:01 |
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chris |
yep |
| 10:02 |
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chris |
its the beauty of free software, if you dont like something you can change it :) |
| 10:04 |
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imp |
indeed :) |
| 10:04 |
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paul_p |
imp: with specific images, a library with multiple language can have "localized" versions of images. so that's not necessary a bad thing. |
| 10:04 |
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paul_p |
although I agree in most cases, it's useless |
| 10:05 |
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paul_p |
(but at least, it's not a visible bug) |
| 10:06 |
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imp |
316mb for a default installation is just huge - and 195M for intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl looks stupid |
| 10:07 |
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kf |
perhaps it should use a default folder when there is no folder with localized images |
| 10:12 |
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imp |
kf: there is already intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/ |
| 10:19 |
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kf |
imp: i think to have localized images is a nice option, we already use bridge icons with german subtitles in our currend opacs. but I agree, that with more and more languages it uses to much space, so perhaps it could be optional, so when you create a localized folder, it will be used |
| 10:22 |
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paul_p |
in fact, the best solution would be to distribute only english, and create templates in web installer |
| 10:25 |
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imp |
paul_p: or being able to select the ones you want to install |
| 10:25 |
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kf |
but it should be also possible to add languages later |
| 10:26 |
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imp |
kf: sure, but how many languages do you need in your installation? ;) |
| 10:27 |
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kf |
opac-languages are more likely to be added later |
| 10:27 |
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kf |
than intranet |
| 10:27 |
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chris |
why shouldnt you have as many languages as possible on your opac? |
| 10:36 |
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imp |
good night |
| 10:49 |
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kf |
good night chris |
